lost-ark-discussions

[queen grail]

I mean, how real it is that it happends towards humans is up for debat, I was just told this by a friend who was at a wolf sanctuary.

[uncut dirge]

people hunt wolves and bears here

[queen grail]

but they will https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/yjk2ek/wolves_at_a_conservation_preserve_getting_to_know/ show you love if they like you @fresh flint

[uncut dirge]

because their population has been growing higher than is considered to be optimal

[obtuse oyster]

@loud vortex

[uncut dirge]

supposedly we have as many wolves as finland does in a country that's 8x smaller by area

[loud vortex]

So there's no huge pack of 100 wolves?

[uncut dirge]

no lmao

[obtuse oyster]

god no

that would be nightmare fuel

[uncut dirge]

if there are 200 wolves in an area the size of the netherlands

that's already probably too much

wild animal population density needs to be pretty sparse for nature to support it, especially if humans live nearby

[loud vortex]

or sometimes human will feed them

[obtuse oyster]

I think the last thing you wanna be doing is feeding a wolf

[midnight marlin]

but thats a dog

[queen grail]

If not friend? Why friend shaped?

[loud vortex]

There's a famous wolf in China tho, literally became a dog due to tourists feeding it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iSV42S7lgaU

[queen grail]

And then he gets kids.

And he learn them to do it.

[obtuse oyster]

till it's munching on you

[queen grail]

And their kids does that.

And then 10 gen's later.

[loud vortex]

Dogified

[queen grail]

We got dog 2,0.

[loud vortex]

[queen grail]

This is why I feed the wild bear's around me so I can get a new pet later

[fresh flint]

Wow, pred slayer is fucking boring

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-girls-gif-20175107

[obtuse oyster]

Yeah, I'm calling wild life service on you

[modern hatch]

i like being beyblade

[queen grail]

https://giphy.com/gifs/dog-doggy-cluelesss-FBRMZluqZxyUmbpIN0

[fresh flint]

Well tbf im pre-arkgrid...but still. It feels so.... boring and lifeless

[loud vortex]

bears are so cute

[obtuse oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/strolling-nat-geo-wild-wandering-walking-around-snowy-gif-20536436

[fresh flint]

I MISSED CHAOS GATE AGAIN

[queen grail]

CAN I PET THAT DOG?

[fresh flint]

STOPPPPP DISTRACTING ME

[queen grail]

Yo, fuck that, no, not white bear's, they fucking rip you in half.

[loud vortex]

not this huge ass polar bear

[queen grail]

Brown might want to cuddle, white will drink from your skull.

[loud vortex]

[obtuse oyster]

bear racism, watdahelly

[fresh flint]

i wanna pet a white bear

[uncut dirge]

bears are basically bigger dogs

[queen grail]

You can, but only once.

[uncut dirge]

prove me wrong

[queen grail]

Since you won't be anymore.

[modern hatch]

pet mishka then

[fresh flint]

MILKSHAKE

i want a milkshake

[obtuse oyster]

mama bear isn't about cuddle when she start swinging those hands

[fresh flint]

do i go get one chatR?

[queen grail]

[uncut dirge]

if i were impervious like superman, i'd go pet a polar bear

[queen grail]

https://giphy.com/gifs/9DyRSxpjO3sc2iXds2

[fresh flint]

sned them my way rn

[uncut dirge]

just to see their reaction

[fresh flint]

send

[modern hatch]

u gotta stay up for chaos gate anyways

[fresh flint]

well i closed todya so im only home for 4 hours now

and need dindin

[loud vortex]

that little bear is cute

[neon cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-vexify-bear-cub-side-eye-even-he-was-weirded-tf-out-gif-5838768661898950497

[loud vortex]

soooo cuuuute

[fresh flint]

ok yeah

chat

we going get milkshak

[tulip charm]

useless fact #25081, if you eat a bear liver, you will die

[neon cedar]

What kind?

[fresh flint]

vanilla

[neon cedar]

Boring

[fresh flint]

no

FRIC U

[loud vortex]

will a bear die if it eats a human liver?

[fresh flint]

is that a challenge

[tulip charm]

an actual useless fact, you die from vitamin a poisoning

[fresh flint]

ill fuckin do it

dont challenge me

[tulip charm]

...

[loud vortex]

don't kill bears, they are so cute

[fresh flint]

Sorry I was challenged to consume a liver

I must see it through

[long laurel]

you guys know how to get the great success in crafting up to 30 % ?

[tulip charm]

becareful with this, the actual chance for great success calculation is kinda rigged

as in, if you get it to 30%, it dosn't mean 3/10 will great success, its actually much much lower lol

[long laurel]

oh 🙁

[neon cedar]

I don't think 30% is even possible

[long laurel]

what buildings/skin do you guys use

[neon cedar]

It's been awhile but I feel like max is ~11%

[upbeat ether]

wow gg

[neon cedar]

And Zheng is right. I also think people go for cost reduction

[tulip charm]

cannon, purple curtains, the item from the nukman quest chain

[neon cedar]

Success chance is a little shitty

[long laurel]

i see ty

[neon cedar]

Thanks for finding the side Im missing

[long laurel]

i got my first one a month ago

[loud vortex]

Only good for something with very low craft cost and high profit

[long laurel]

dont sell keep it and post it after every raid xD

[loud vortex]

Like potion

[fresh flint]

I still have yet to drop a side it’s wildddddddd

[long laurel]

only took me 5k+ hours

you will get urs soon

[loud vortex]

I had 1 in hm act 5

[fresh flint]

Well I’m coming up on 8k

[loud vortex]

and that's the only one

[fresh flint]

[long laurel]

they so expensive in NA right ?

[fresh flint]

Little bit yeah

[loud vortex]

3M ish?

[long laurel]

they used to be 500-600k in EU

now the 1mil

[tulip charm]

everything is worthless on eu

but all eu players have 500% increased ember drop rates

[long laurel]

true

[loud vortex]

u should always use great success rate when crafting combat supplies imo

[neon cedar]

Combat supplies We only craft fusions

[loud vortex]

[long laurel]

we get so much free shit who craft combat supplies

[loud vortex]

I made 5M from pots

but it won't be the case any more, since the future raids are getting easy

[fresh flint]

How the fuck… I’m sorry but I literally have 0 chest

[loud vortex]

every time when there's a new raid, pot price will go up to 300g per purple potion (not splendid ones)

[neon cedar]

I have 2k+ of every chest 500-1500 of every important battle item open

[loud vortex]

and the price usually lasts for a whole week

[fresh flint]

Matter of fact I’m running low on purple pots. It’s kinda bad. I never once thought I would ever run out

[loud vortex]

Serca is the same tho

but I doubt if the church raid will be the same

[fresh flint]

I was doing fine and then all of a sudden it just got bad. And now it’s really bad.

[loud vortex]

All I heard is that the church raid will be very easy

[neon cedar]

Gotta be a rat and stop using battle items

[fresh flint]

I can’t do that

[neon cedar]

Running low on hp? just die ezpz

Res = full pot

[loud vortex]

Take blue pots then

I use blue pots in all raids

[tulip charm]

take green pots and use cursed doll, make sure your support remove expert engraving

[loud vortex]

(since I don't do nmm serca)

[slow saddle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/teacher-homework-payingattentioninclass-vtFZ8O85q8g3MmXK51

[long laurel]

is crafting potion better than fusion 🤔

[loud vortex]

used to be

[long laurel]

they are expensive

[loud vortex]

but not now

[long laurel]

212g

[loud vortex]

since I need to consume fusion

so I go mining and craft fusion instead

[long laurel]

^^

i feel like fusion dont drop on paradise anymore

[loud vortex]

But if ur talking about selling only, then yes

[long laurel]

the old ones used to drop so much

[loud vortex]

pots are the best option

specifically Elemental HP Potions

It has more than 95% profit margin, if u sell them at the right time

[long laurel]

🫡

time to be a flower boy

i wish i could make potions from wood ^^

[loud vortex]

I only wish if the blue flowers are transformable

Like mining and logging

[long laurel]

it looks like flash grenade is the best profit margin ^^

[fresh flint]

I’m back home but I didn’t get milkshak I got coffee

[loud vortex]

Why ppl do RMT this way now?

strange

[long laurel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tranquil shore]

[loud vortex]

They used to use gems and collectibles of adventure tome

[fresh flint]

Oh yeah I need to life skill

[loud vortex]

what's going on today?

I got dced 3 times

[fresh flint]

yeah seems like a lot of people are having issues today

[loud vortex]

but luckily not in any raid tho

[fresh flint]

Only crafting 30 at a time is kinda shit

[loud vortex]

every bottle is 200+

and the gold cost per bottle is merely 9g

[fresh flint]

Yeah still ass ngl 😭

[tulip charm]

[fresh flint]

@loud vortex

Where do you forage?

[loud vortex]

abidos garrison

[fresh flint]

Oh ok

Is this a decent tool for it?

[loud vortex]

control the purple flower to spawn in that chaos gate area, then u good

[vestal knot]

hey can anyone give me advice on how i should progress my alts, my main is at 1710 and the rest of my alts are 1640, i want to bring them all up to 1710 before pushing my main any further, is it better to bring all my alts to 1680 first and then push them all to 1710, or leave them all at 1640 and focus on one alt at a time and bring them up to 1710 individually?

[fresh flint]

idk how that works

[fresh flint]

I pesonally would work on them 1 at a time

Spreading yourself too thin on multiple at a time can fuel burnout

And your progression iLvl wise would be very slow

[loud vortex]

Check this

[neon cedar]

If it was me I would park them all at 1680 for ancient gear then go back to main and push main to 1730 before returning to alts

[fresh flint]

which circle do i go to

[loud vortex]

u want the purple flowers to spawn in red circle only, which is where u forage

[neon cedar]

For foraging I did red circle. you can excavate at the same time if you want

[loud vortex]

So u need to remove all purple flowers in green circles

[fresh flint]

im so over exca x.x

so if no purple flower in 2 green zones, go red zone

[loud vortex]

and wait until all flowers are spawned in green circles

once they are all spawned and green, then the purple flowers can only spawn in red circle

[fresh flint]

theyre all green

so pog

[loud vortex]

They must be:

1. all spawned, so any place that can spawn a flower has a flower, no empty space
2. all green, remove any purple u see there and wait for respawn

[neon cedar]

What the hell

[fresh flint]

LMAOOO

[loud vortex]

once that 2 conditions are met, purp can only spawn in red circle

then u can happy forage in red circle area

[fresh flint]

holy fuck exp for foraging is shitty slow

[neon cedar]

I found one for you

[loud vortex]

use leap essence

[fresh flint]

i saw that and want it so bad

i always do

[neon cedar]

Just get orbs ez

[loud vortex]

If u don't have leap, foraging is a pure nightmare

[fresh flint]

i have leap

always do

[loud vortex]

but still slow tho, since every forage only consume 60 energy with leap

[fresh flint]

[loud vortex]

no green thumb, gg

[viscid sand]

you can parallel push the lower level alts with character bound stuff from paradise slowly, and then focus more on an individual character.

[loud vortex]

enjoy ur painful way to lvl 30

[sand marsh]

interesting. i just learned something about armoche

thought i knew everything about the raid but ig not smh

[fresh flint]

holy fuck i got a WTL

its been so long since ive seen that

[loud vortex]

what is wtl?

[fresh flint]

world tree leaf

[loud vortex]

[long laurel]

what is that

[vestal knot]

ah okay thanks for all the advice guys

[long laurel]

they still in the game 😮

[loud vortex]

what's that

[fresh flint]

wtl? of course

they never left

[loud vortex]

usually u just need 72 wtl

for relic charm

[long laurel]

i only have 37 i should farm em

[loud vortex]

ye

[fresh flint]

i have 78

[loud vortex]

u want this eventually

[long laurel]

only 15% more ^^

[neon cedar]

Get all 120 ez

[fresh flint]

The fact that this is dropped from this as well makes it so much nicer

[loud vortex]

I will get 120, if voldis and south vern drop T4 mats

[distant flax]

about that...

[fresh flint]

oh shit, chaos gate

[neon cedar]

Gogo dont miss it

[fresh flint]

i going

i madeded it

[neon cedar]

Bonus room & 2 relic books incoming

[fresh flint]

Bonus room, no relic

[long laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/t1-dumbo-drink-cry-wail-gif-4431501228822497355

[fresh flint]

I'm fine with that though

More reds to sell later

Back to foraging

🪏

[loud vortex]

another good thing about foraging is that u will have literally no competition

[long laurel]

i like mining

[fresh flint]

people keep staring at me

[loud vortex]

mining has some competition, but not as intense as grave-digging and logging

hunting and foraging are usually chill

and talk about fishing, who the phuck go fishing except bots?

[fresh flint]

i did for a long time

when i was newer

i actually enjoyed it

[long laurel]

fishing is chill you dont get attacked

[loud vortex]

I only fish for wtl or on opportunity island

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-cat-annoyed-annoying-cat-please-shut-up-gif-13087270503647123674

[loud vortex]

fishing has 0 competition, but also the slowest

[sand marsh]

you can ignore the guard mech entirely in armoche

in both difficulties

i just need to reproduce it

[loud vortex]

which guard mech?

x280 minion or x240 jg

[sand marsh]

x240

[fresh flint]

[loud vortex]

Ye u can always kill him before that mech

and he deadge

[sand marsh]

not what i mean

i mean ignoring it entirely

[loud vortex]

[long laurel]

🫡

[loud vortex]

feels like a bug

This is what I have for now

[fresh flint]

i am slacking bad

[sand marsh]

its not a bug

the same ideology of the strat, exists in serca nm/hm too

at 240 mech

that mech can also be completely ignored

g2 240

[long laurel]

you guys remember that dungeon you could go for mining etc.

[loud vortex]

platinum something?

[long laurel]

i miss that shit

[loud vortex]

That was a long time ago

[long laurel]

yeah

[loud vortex]

When I was still in CN server

[fresh flint]

i fucking hated platinum

[long laurel]

they remove everything thats social at this point

[sand marsh]

platinum was hardly social lol

[fresh flint]

^

nobody did platinum like ever

[sand marsh]

most ppl solo'ed it lol

if they were doing it

[long laurel]

i never solo ed it

but that item/key was rare af

[sand marsh]

its not like ur doing it with a group and you end up going into a philosophical discussion or talking about life stories

u find someone to do it with

and both of you are silent the entire time

is that really social? lol

[long laurel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

maybe group content is the better word for it

[loud vortex]

Wait wut

do u have a guide for that?

[sand marsh]

im not spilling the strat in here

but no i dont

[loud vortex]

[fresh flint]

gatekeeping a glitch

smh

[sand marsh]

its not a glitch lol

i promise ya

[fresh flint]

then y gatekeep it

cringer

[sand marsh]

because its not something you would ever do in a pug

its just a bussing strat lol

[loud vortex]

[fresh flint]

surely

oh shid

[loud vortex]

just remember to control the spawn of purple every time u do lifeskilling

green thumb + purple flower is a huge gain

[loud vortex]

3 lvls left

[fresh flint]

i have no life skill pots unfort

[loud vortex]

go get some from Mari then

[fresh flint]

gib bc

juicy

[loud vortex]

is that u

[fresh flint]

no

i dont think we are on the same server

[loud vortex]

[fresh flint]

Hummm

Brights are gonna be an issue

[long laurel]

[fresh flint]

Soooo.. 24k per 11k life energy

At least before my green thumb

[fresh flint]

wild

you must never touch life skills

[long laurel]

you used to get that shit for free

yeah i didnt like life skills

now i have nothing to do its diffrent ^^

[fresh flint]

I made a lot of mistakes which also included quitting & server swapping

So the backup/reserve i should have is like, 0

[long laurel]

[fresh flint]

It is what it is :L

@loud vortex 2 more

[long laurel]

do the pets help with it btw ? i never understand the pet skills

[fresh flint]

with what?

[long laurel]

drops

or is that only for the stronghold one

[fresh flint]

nah pets are useless outside of the spec/crit/swift

ah that

its stronghold farm

[long laurel]

k so its useless

[fresh flint]

yep

well , useful to lazy ppl

[long laurel]

^^

[fresh flint]

i am lazy but, also greedy

[long laurel]

same but logging was so boring i stop doing it

[fresh flint]

yeah im over having to find a partner for that shit

its too slow solo

[long laurel]

picking flowers is kinda chill

[fresh flint]

yep

i can yap here while i do it

xdd

[long laurel]

xd

[swift tree]

you too?

[fresh flint]

no, greed

[fresh flint]

also thats wild af

[swift tree]

still gonna be harvesting wood since I need fusions :<

[swift tree]

total is 10k

[fresh flint]

Can you not make fusions with flowers too?

[swift tree]

yeah but wood is best life energy -> output

[fresh flint]

true i almost forgot

[long laurel]

is it a big diffrent

[fresh flint]

i sell all of my wood mats tho

xdd

[swift tree]

it is when you're logging 70 and have BiS tool

[fresh flint]

ffswtf

[swift tree]

treasure pouch +90% is crazy too

[fresh flint]

it is

i fucking WISh

[long laurel]

is this good ?

[fresh flint]

love my shovel

[fresh flint]

its missing rare, but it is pretty good

[long laurel]

i have this one aswell

[fresh flint]

@-@

[long laurel]

but logging is so boring 😭

[fresh flint]

herbalism for lief

1 more level for green thumb

@-@

[loud vortex]

Time to afk drink tea and go sleep

[fresh flint]

back to the grind

:3

@swift tree

[slow saddle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/69lg9Y2CCoQeVBq18H

[fresh flint]

lmao

[fresh flint]

[slow saddle]

reported for rmt

[sinful cove]

idk how foraging compares to others material wise but it levels so insanely slow. Idk if I can get fishing and Forgaging to 50

[sand marsh]

[fresh flint]

For fusions, def wood. I think peeps only do it for potions

[distant flax]

potions, atros, feeding esther whales

[sinful cove]

I haven't touched logging since I got it to 70 but if I was smart I would keep doing that

[fresh flint]

ah yeah the sidereal people too

[swift tree]

oof

[loud vortex]

oh don't craft splendid btw

[fresh flint]

gainz

LEVEL 30 LETS GOOO

[loud vortex]

those are not very cost-effective

[swift tree]

congrats

Soon Chris

time to become Canadian

[long laurel]

flash grenade best way to make gold ☝️

[fresh flint]

lmao green thumb is so funny

[swift tree]

green thumb + zerker mayhem + card set = go brr

if only we had a Tier 4 lifeskill island that allowed card usage

[fresh flint]

i just went full swift

[loud vortex]

This is my lifeskilling set

[swift tree]

T4 lifeskill islands when?!?

[long laurel]

[loud vortex]

spirit absorb + heavy armor op

[swift tree]

add this too

[long laurel]

min maxing life skilling

🫡

[loud vortex]

multi-purpose engraving

It works the best on everything except raid

chaos, lifeskilling, msq, pvp

[swift tree]

no Contender?

[loud vortex]

nah

PS makes u oneshot everything

no point of taking contender

[swift tree]

[long laurel]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/Gvi_jHIXcAAOs-d.gif

[fresh flint]

holy giga flower

[swift tree]

gaddam

[loud vortex]

green thumb triggered on a purple flower i guess

[swift tree]

you doing the Abids Garrison carousel?

[fresh flint]

green thumb is up perma

yes

[loud vortex]

foraging below lvl 30 and above lvl 30 are completely different worlds

[fresh flint]

100%

way different

[swift tree]

only one that isnt too different is logging tbh

and that's just because you add an extra kick

[loud vortex]

or fishing

[swift tree]

fishing still has a minigame, no?

[long laurel]

yes

[loud vortex]

but still tedius

It is weird that more than 90% of ppl doing lifeskilling dunno how to control the spawn of purple

[swift tree]

hunting used to have whole dungeons you'd have to scout out

[sinful cove]

i have so many hutnign maps still

ran it the other day. no way its worth the time it takes to find the dungeon nowadays

[loud vortex]

foraging in NK, mining and excavating in Rimeria are easy to control

I never really did logging or hunting, so idk

[long laurel]

foraging in yans path is chill

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[loud vortex]

map too large

hard to control the spawn of purple

[long laurel]

its like the bottom corner

k

[sinful cove]

many purples can be up at once i think its not like logging

[loud vortex]

2 purp max simultaneously in NK

not sure about Rimeria

But u want them to spawn only in ur area

[sinful cove]

doing one lap right now i got 6

[fresh flint]

brights are no longer an issue om

[sinful cove]

but map is big

[loud vortex]

I still have tons of blue leftovers

[loud vortex]

can't be 6 simultaneously, probably some respawned purp

[sinful cove]

i gathered one 10 seconds ago and nobody else has been in the zone for over an hour

i know lulus guide says it about logging but might work differently

[long laurel]

omw

[sinful cove]

come tag team the flowers with me

[loud vortex]

I would still prefer to control it into a smaller area

like abidos garrison

[sinful cove]

yeah idk why i came here i usually hunt/mine in nk

[loud vortex]

but mining in Rimeria is great

[sinful cove]

the price of meat and how fast it drains energy

[loud vortex]

U can control the purple ores to here

[sinful cove]

but sucks to do jhust hunting since not many spawns up

so i do mining + hunting

[loud vortex]

and as usual, max 2 purp ores can simultaneously exist

The best approach is to always keep one purp ore alive, so that u can use full swing on it

once u see another purp spawn, u mine the previous one

[long laurel]

foraging there

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[loud vortex]

so that it can spawn again

I feel like that I have 10x more knowledge in lifeskilling than raiding

[long laurel]

xD

[loud vortex]

If there is a parse for foraging, I will have 99 for sure

[long laurel]

is hunting good for anything

[sinful cove]

meats usually expensive

[loud vortex]

only when ur lazy and just wanna sell raw mat

[sinful cove]

idk the ratio of like if its worth compared to others but all the skills seemed balanced in mats given compared to t3 now

[loud vortex]

or u farming for world tree leaves

(Phuck voldis again)

[sinful cove]

that voldis hunting was a lot rougher than i thought it could ever be

[distant flax]

Meat prices kinda tanking on NA given you only drop T3 or T4 at a time

[loud vortex]

and the voldis wtl is the hardest to acquire

and u have to hunt that purple siamese cat in voldis to get the wtl quest

[sinful cove]

yeah not many crafting infinite feasts and promoting it in party finder. new raids price of meat and i guess flowers skyrocket

[fresh flint]

these r dropping like mad crazy now wtf

[loud vortex]

foraging is op

[long laurel]

making more gold from it than raiding

60k+ per week ?

[swift tree]

higher level = higher chance

[loud vortex]

dunno exact number, since the inventory turnover rate is low

[fresh flint]

BOOM

[sinful cove]

level doesnteffect treasure chance

[loud vortex]

in most of the cases, u should hoard the potions and only dump them into the market after the release of a new raid

[sinful cove]

just rng'd

[swift tree]

trick is to make farm feasts

[loud vortex]

thus foraging has the lowest optimum inventory turnover rate

but crazy profit margin

[fresh flint]

[sinful cove]

watda

[fresh flint]

i told u

they just started hella dropping

[sinful cove]

i need to make a new tool. i made 1 of each master tool and they all were really bad

[loud vortex]

I only have one good tool, my diamond pickaxe

my foraging tool is meh

and since I need abidos, I have stopped foraging and gone mining instead

Creeper~ Awwww man~

[long laurel]

i just crafted it

[zenith canyon]

[loud vortex]

that buff duration is dogshit line

[long laurel]

but rest is bis ?

i like that durability one fuck having to rep

[zenith canyon]

durability is also ass

[loud vortex]

durability stuff is meh

[long laurel]

[loud vortex]

imo, best lines for foraging will be treasure pouch, green thumb reward, all mat, rare mat and common mat

[long laurel]

so you want all mat drop rate , rare drop rate , pouch drop rate ?

[loud vortex]

uncommon mat is fine but not as good as common mat

for foraging only

[long laurel]

[loud vortex]

or maybe excavating & hunting & fishing too

since u can only do "common -> uncommon", not backwards

[fresh flint]

xDDD

[long laurel]

what is ur route you walk for foraging

[fresh flint]

fuck sake so many foraging achv

[fresh flint]

hehe penis

[loud vortex]

Control the purple spawn to red circle

Then forage there

[long laurel]

😮

[loud vortex]

u need to memorize every spot in green circles, which can spawn a flower

[zenith canyon]

WTF

[long laurel]

bis

[zenith canyon]

2nd

[loud vortex]

That's a 4 liner

[fresh flint]

BRO WHAT THE FUCK?

[sinful cove]

chances of getting a 5 liner is kinda rare

[loud vortex]

My pickaxe is a 4.5 liner

[sinful cove]

and spam crafting a tool wont save you money for a long time if you got a good 4 liner

[loud vortex]

tru

that master kit is expensive af

[sinful cove]

[zenith canyon]

[fresh flint]

man wtf... 99% drop on pouches

fuck u

[sinful cove]

dont even want to try making more master tools but i got a master craft kit today while waiting for chaos gate lol

[zenith canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-15583786640876413164

[fresh flint]

some fat cunt is interupting my herb route

[swift tree]

damn

120k gold tho

[long laurel]

thats nice

10 weapon taps

[swift tree]

1660 souleather

[long laurel]

oh

easy 1700 🤔

[loud vortex]

soul eat her

[zenith canyon]

so that should be 1670

[loud vortex]

[swift tree]

close enuff

[fresh flint]

tf lol

[long laurel]

that name

[zenith canyon]

[swift tree]

bunch of cursed joke names made for SE on Innana, I went with this one

[loud vortex]

I wonder if u can name a SE as ''Eaterofsouls''

[fresh flint]

i lwk just wanna sell the mats

or is it more gold to craft pots n sell those?

[long laurel]

yes

[loud vortex]

more gold on pots 100%

but u might have to wait

[sinful cove]

my biggest issue with flowers is half the time the auctions expire even whenever i just put them for 1g under the cheapest

[fresh flint]

Meh I wouldnt mind waiting ngl

[sinful cove]

compared to wood/abidos items

[fresh flint]

I can stockpile until next raid xd

[swift tree]

more gold to craft n sell

[loud vortex]

Since next raid will be easy

even easier than serca

[fresh flint]

[long laurel]

idk i struggle with the timing of the spacebar

in nightmare

[loud vortex]

I would suggest setting the price lower than 250g

250g per bottle

[fresh flint]

well theyre like 200g on na

xD

[long laurel]

same on EU

[loud vortex]

because it is not the first week of serca now

[fresh flint]

i know

[loud vortex]

In the first week it went to 300g

for 2 or 3 days iirc

[fresh flint]

im not at all concerned about min-maxxing profits too much. I just need to make gold so I can take advantage of the low book prices during frog.

[uncut dirge]

hmm bots are back on EU

[long laurel]

i saw them too

[loud vortex]

200g is also lucrative enough

[long laurel]

they on the other tree aswell

[loud vortex]

[uncut dirge]

instant schopping

[fresh flint]

i still have 12 pots left to use

but fuck my wrists hurt

xD

[loud vortex]

The great profit comes with a great sacrifice

[fresh flint]

Good chunk to start my crafting journey

[loud vortex]

that's 110k gold

at least

[fresh flint]

Hmmm

I spent 48k so - that

[loud vortex]

oh u bought blue crystal

[fresh flint]

only enough for 1 thing from mari, had extra bc for others

[loud vortex]

another 1640 argeos

[uncut dirge]

like that's a literal

12x dps difference

[loud vortex]

That SE is doing something lower than a 1640

[uncut dirge]

admittedly my sorc is very strong for the ilvl but still

[long laurel]

maybe a bot

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[loud vortex]

are u igniter or reflux?

[uncut dirge]

reflux

but i'm 2770

[loud vortex]

🐳

[long laurel]

you do more dmg than my 5k wd 😭

[loud vortex]

Why the whale emojis look different tho?

[zenith canyon]

cn fake emotes

[long laurel]

[loud vortex]

[dull obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/drunken-goddess-reflux-pukey-goddess-shot-trick-femme-soule-fam-fahm-gif-8104831963659301207

[uncut dirge]

yeah idk why the damage is that high

[loud vortex]

It's like my 5.5k sorc

[uncut dirge]

surely not

[loud vortex]

nerf reflux, buff igniter

[uncut dirge]

are you igniter?

[loud vortex]

[long laurel]

we just suck should stick to foraging

[uncut dirge]

ah i can't speak for igniter

[loud vortex]

my dps is usually low in guardian raids

since I don't use stimmy

[uncut dirge]

ah

yeah okay if you dont stim then yeah

it's gonna be much lower

[long laurel]

you stimm at guardin ?

[uncut dirge]

yes

especially on reflux sorc

you gotta teleport to get your damage buffs up

but you can't build enough meter without waiting like 30 seconds

so you end up blowing your big damage without your damage buffs

[loud vortex]

I only have a blink with 25 sec cd

[uncut dirge]

it actually feels worse than not stimming on igniter

[loud vortex]

basically lifesaving skill only

[uncut dirge]

yep

[loud vortex]

without stimmy or supp

[fresh flint]

ok im falling asleep

[uncut dirge]

oh withotu supp too

that's really good then

[loud vortex]

almost half of my guardian raids have no supp

just matchmaking in and out

[uncut dirge]

i see

[long laurel]

btw what you do with the abidos wild flower you just sell it or is there anything worth crafting with it

[loud vortex]

abidos fusion ofc

[long laurel]

oh you can do fusions with flowers

[loud vortex]

ye

[long laurel]

😮

[fresh flint]

[loud vortex]

but usually u will run out of green and white flowers

if ur crafting both pots and abidos

[long laurel]

so best would be just sell it ?

and craft pots

[loud vortex]

even u don't exchange any white and green into blue

[loud vortex]

nah

craft pots first, then craft abidos

[fresh flint]

@swift tree

[loud vortex]

and sell the remaining abidos flowers after running out of white and green

[dull obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/drunken-goddess-reflux-pukey-goddess-shot-trick-femme-soule-fam-fahm-gif-8104831963659301207

[loud vortex]

the rule of thumb is that anything crafted has more value than raw material

microeconomics 101

[fresh flint]

7 pots...

so tired

[loud vortex]

foraging has the highest cpm among all lifeskilling

[fresh flint]

yeah is 4 am

im going to bd

holy fk

[loud vortex]

me too

[fresh flint]

after this 3k energy

i go slep

[loud vortex]

I was going to sleep like 2 hours ago

[fresh flint]

wht srvr r u on

[loud vortex]

Thaemine

[fresh flint]

oh

wehat sur ign

ffs

whats ur ign

[loud vortex]

Zyraphine

dumb dumb

[fresh flint]

[loud vortex]

always drinking tea in voldis

[fresh flint]

planting marijana

[slender sky]

aloo

why are u still alive

[fresh flint]

bro idk

[slender sky]

jesus

big gaming session

[fresh flint]

i discovered a new life skill;

[slender sky]

ewwwww

[fresh flint]

[slender sky]

whyy

[fresh flint]

gold

[slender sky]

its not more gold than logging tho no

[loud vortex]

It is more

if u craft pots

[fresh flint]

if u craft ye

[slender sky]

i craft atros

[slender sky]

but buy the stuff for them

[long laurel]

but they sell slow af

[loud vortex]

pots are a rigid demand

while atro is, emmm, somewhat elastic

and the most important is: atro is cheaper than pots now but requires more resources to craft

[bleak zinc]

[slender sky]

i will go investigate after i was a filthy double dipper on field boss

@fresh flint did u finish your raids

[fresh flint]

no we will be doing them later today

[slender sky]

oh

[alpine nebula]

Hello

[fresh flint]

hi

[alpine nebula]

I have two brel hm questions that i asked before

[fresh flint]

Okay

Ask

[alpine nebula]

Okay

Question number 1:

Theres a mech where brel disappears and

We gotta run to 1 of the 4 quadrants

(The safe zones)

Floors flash

4 times

How do people know which quadrant to run to?

And in what order?

[fresh flint]

Ah I see what you're talking about

[alpine nebula]

Like the floors flash

[fresh flint]

Yes, that's the order in which you need to run

[lilac frigate]

the floor flashes 4 times and then it starts to damage?

[alpine nebula]

3/4 quadrants of floor flash and u will get airborne and dmged a lot

[fresh flint]

He means memory pattern

[lilac frigate]

yeah the flashes indicate the save tiles

[alpine nebula]

Yeaaa

So how do i know

[fresh flint]

Sec let me pull it up

[alpine nebula]

Which are safe zones in order?

[slender sky]

atros are cheaper to craft than pots tho

[lilac frigate]

the tiles that flash are the safe ones except the tile that flashes in a different colour

you go to the opposite one for the one that flashes in a different one

its a memory game

[alpine nebula]

Hmmmm i see i will pay attention to that

I never noticed the tiles flash beforehand

They flash 4 times beforehand?

[lilac frigate]

it will flash 4 times and then you need to "follow" the flashes

[alpine nebula]

I see i seeeee

Dang yeai never noticed

And second question is

Brel disappears and

[lilac frigate]

dont forget, one flash marks the opposite tile as safe

[alpine nebula]

Clones spawn in the edges of the map (i think like 4 clones?)

How do we know which one to attack?

[fresh flint]

See the circle that kinda looks like it has a "cloud" icon in it?

[sand marsh]

some guides on youtube go over that specific patterns but it's the little runes that are on the ground

[lilac frigate]

ah yeah, those small runes, not full on flashes. sorry

[alpine nebula]

The bottom right, right?

[sand marsh]

is this in the last phase of the fight?

[fresh flint]

There's 4 in each corner

Yes

[lilac frigate]

but you got the white ones that tell you the one you need to stand in and the purple one means the opposite one

[fresh flint]

You're looking at those to see which one flashes FIRST, second, then third

[alpine nebula]

Ohhhhh okayyy i see

[fresh flint]

They flash white

[alpine nebula]

Soi look for the cloudfilled circle flash

4 times

[sand marsh]

The clone attack your talking about sounds like the last phase of the fight.

if my memory is right

[alpine nebula]

Ummm a unique detail of the clone mech is

[sand marsh]

or it coudl be phase 2

yeah shes in the middle, with 4 clones at each quadrent

[lilac frigate]

the easy way was to ping before she splits up

[alpine nebula]

The middle one shoots tonsssss of ice arrows in a beam

Towards the clone i think

[fresh flint]

This is the video from maxroll that shows you how the mechanic is done. Watch the circles. And how they do it.
https://youtu.be/EfjCZDQCyKs

[sand marsh]

yeah thats an easy way to tell. spam ping the boss before the attack starts

[alpine nebula]

Or the players

[sand marsh]

OR just look for the clone who has a safe spot next to it

[alpine nebula]

Perfectttt thank u i understand now omg

[fresh flint]

Awesome

[alpine nebula]

Wait but how do i know which clone on the edge of the map is the one to attack?

[fresh flint]

Let me find the video for that too

[alpine nebula]

Cus the icicles shoot kind of later

And i feel like sometimes it follows me, not the real boss 😭

[sand marsh]

The icicles is coming from the boss in mid from my memory

i always just went to the clone that had a safe spot near it

or you can look at HP bar above head?

most clone-like attacks you can tell which one is real by seeing if it has a HP bar above head

but this doesn't work for all clone-attacks in raids i believe

[fresh flint]

https://youtu.be/XnJdI-nBXWA

This one?

[alpine nebula]

Yesss

That one

Like how do they know which one to ping

[sand marsh]

yeah i believe i just went to the one that had safe spots near it as you can see in 7 seconds of the video

[alpine nebula]

It doesnt seem like it has an hp bar above it

[alpine nebula]

And where is the safe spot that's unique to the real boss here? 😭

[alpine nebula]

Ok lemme check again

[fresh flint]

So one thing I notice is that she has a purple "shield" up before any of the other clones

And then the other clones put one up to shoot their beams

[alpine nebula]

Ok i see the real ones a tad bit faster but

[sand marsh]

look above head is the fastest way to tell it seems like

incase you didnt know

[alpine nebula]

Dang if i was on the opposite side of the map i wouldve missed that

[sand marsh]

when the boss has synergy debuffs on them, (which every class has), boss has an icon above there head

the clone with icons above the head, (which are debuffs) is the real one

[fresh flint]

You mean like support brand?

[sand marsh]

yeah

or just any kind of synergy debuff

[fresh flint]

Also I think she faces the direction the safe spot is in

[sand marsh]

nah the icicles is targeted at a random player 100%

you can bait it away but most ppl tank it

[alpine nebula]

😭

[fresh flint]

Oh she shoots those? Never knew

[sand marsh]

yeah

it hurt during prog

[alpine nebula]

I still cannot tell from the vid

[sand marsh]

keep in mind the pattern ur talking about is hard-mode only

you wont see it in normal mode

[fresh flint]

There's no brand/mark on the one in the video

But the purple shield is an indicator

[sand marsh]

i didn't cover it in my guide because my cadence of explaining mechanics is much slower than memorizers but

memo talked about it

albeit he doesn't really explain which clone is real

https://youtu.be/3mzjxIy7-3o?si=ouEPSAqZIBl_v9_A&t=629

[fresh flint]

Worst case scenario though just follow everyone else. That mech isn't really much of an issue.

[sand marsh]

yeah with support care you won't die. it doesn't do a ton of damage unless ur getting hit by all beams and standing in middle lol

[fresh flint]

^ xD

[alpine nebula]

Yeahh i just wish i knew it tho

[sand marsh]

pay attention to the head of the clones

whichever one has a icon above it is the real one

best way to tell

[alpine nebula]

Never failed a raid because of that mech but still feels bad not knowing it 😭

[sand marsh]

lot of raids have these clone-like attacks

[alpine nebula]

Youre pointing to the

Shield thjng u mentioned right

Purple shield

[fresh flint]

Yes

Fakes also have this swirly shit on them

[sand marsh]

yea thats fair

[fresh flint]

Swirl is BEFORE the shield

[alpine nebula]

Does the real one also spawn first?

[sand marsh]

the fastest way is the synergy icons above the boss tho. in memos video someone pinged it almost immediately

because the hitbox is available before the boss actually spawns

which means the synergy icons also appear

[fresh flint]

Yes

It does spawn first

[sand marsh]

oh wait im stupid

i just realized lol

[alpine nebula]

& there are no icons above the boss in that vid tho right

[sand marsh]

Only one clone spawns at 3, 6, 9 or 12 o clock. the clone at 3, 6, 9 or 12 IS the real one. so if your looking and you see a clone at left right bottom or top it's always the real one.

Clones that are not at those positions are always fake

[sand marsh]

they are, just bad pov

[cyan fog]

Chris the koko....teacher ?

[fresh flint]

SO in conclusion:

• REAL Spawns First (At 3,6,9 or 12 clock positions)

• FAKE Spawns Second

• FAKE has a swirl around it (this happens after spawn)

• REAL has no swirl

• FAKE no shield

• REAL shield

[sand marsh]

Just stay middle and look at top bottom left or right. The moment you see a clone at 3, 6, 9 or 12, it is always the real one. As only one clone is at one of those positions

[alpine nebula]

Wait this is sooooo simple for me to remember

[sand marsh]

all other clones are in a diagonal position, (bottom left, bottom right, top left and top rightt)

[fresh flint]

i am so tired

Also in conclusion fuck brel that raid is trash

[sand marsh]

yeah just stay mid and look at each cardinal direction (left, right, top or bottom)

the moment u see a clone there

thats the real one

[alpine nebula]

Gotchaaaa

Okayyyyyy

[cyan fog]

i went to bed with max verstappen in the lead in the 24hr nurburgring

[fresh flint]

My advice is to hone and get tf outta there

[alpine nebula]

Thank you professors

[cyan fog]

i wake up and hes almost 50s ahead still in p1

[fresh flint]

What the HELL does that mean

[sand marsh]

lol true but he prolly just wants to experience it

which i do recommend

[cyan fog]

it means my guy is the undisputed 🐐

[fresh flint]

Something about... max verstaples and nuggets

Yup

Ok

Got it

[cyan fog]

just some car racing yknow

[fresh flint]

Oh

Ok

Yes I know

(no i dont)

[sand marsh]

all the more reason why we need weekly rotating raids. so people can experience all diff kind of mechanics.

[cyan fog]

i dont expect NA humans to know what racing is cus they only go left in nascar

[fresh flint]

nascar is boring

[cyan fog]

and 50mph limit on a straight ass desert road