lost-ark-discussions

[wise pasture]

it was g2 kazeros the red flames as he breaks all walls, but dude clipped himself dead center and took what amounts to infinite dmg kinda

[loud vortex]

I don't have the software so no log

[slow saddle]

as deathboi's accountant, how much are you willing to pay for the guide?

[small root]

thats completely ok ofc if you can

[sand marsh]

that's a fair point. I could create it from the perspective of the nerfs and whatnot.

[tulip charm]

definitely more than ATK...

[sand marsh]

Considering all guides that exist for those two raids is prior to the nerfs.

[tulip charm]

i miss the old ATK rage memes

[sand marsh]

ATK guides are the only ones i ever enjoyed

that girl, seonee or w/e. she talks too fast imo

[loud vortex]

My bf and I made a decision:
I do all counter and jg and stuff, ping everything for him
and he compensates my dps

[sand marsh]

very hard to watch, jus my opinion tho

[slow saddle]

she also uses words that no ones knows

kinda trash imo

[loud vortex]

since I only had 4.9k cp

[small root]

i personally dont need the guide anymore but genuinely your guides were the best for me and the reason i got back into lost ark and raids

[slow saddle]

i can at least stand memo but thats about it, i miss ATK's guides

[sand marsh]

and while memo is the goat, i liked how ATK phrased certain things.

unforutnate that he quit

[slow saddle]

i watch agam for tips n tricks on raids

his english aint amazing but he can still convey points and footage clearly

other than that, i learned all my t3 raids from deathboi lol

[sand marsh]

yeah i get that and i appreciate it. ill think on it for sure. wouldn't feel right to skip two entire raids.

[small root]

theyre very understandable and not overwhelming no hate towards memo and sonee but their guides are very overloaded for me

[wise pasture]

on bard it doesnt even do anything, the dmg taken formula is so fucked it doesnt change how much dmg you take as bard really

[loud vortex]

It's more like a playstyle thingy imo

[small root]

and im sure a lot of people relate but either way big fan and best of luck in work and appreciate all your work <3

[sand marsh]

yeah they are the only ones who can get the guides out to us before it comes to NA. part of me wish i was korean in that aspect LOL

[final kelp]

been running dps bard in TFM and i legit dont feel the difference from when i was pulling without HA

[sand marsh]

hows your dps in tfm on dps bard im curious

[final kelp]

its so bad...

[loud vortex]

I respect those pros that have high parse and always chase their limits, but they shall not use their standard to measure everyone in the game

[sand marsh]

yeah i figured

bard is great for short parses

[tulip charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YZyxVLJyJ0&t=126s aaaaaaaaahhhhh he dead stupid ass support!! raaaaaaaah

[sand marsh]

but not long fights sadly

[sand marsh]

yeah this was cinema lol

i miss him raging xdd

but he ofc, doesn't miss it

[tulip charm]

complains support is dead, playing on a gunlancer, hmm....

[wise pasture]

ye that makes sense, cause HA doesnt do anything if you are 10+ilvl over content on armor, we tested it and the difference was so small that we couldnt even tell if there is one

[final kelp]

i've only got a couple G1 clears, went in G2 on sup for friend clears last week until they boomed us.. running 333 which is like 10% weaker than the real build
https://lostark.bible/logs/pHvQkq0 (are these allowed here)

that 500x burst is so 😩 though

[loud vortex]

To this end, I have no idea why mirra and deathboi are flaming me due to that grudgeless thingy

[sand marsh]

yes its allowed

[slow saddle]

you're still on that?

that convo ended

[loud vortex]

[slow saddle]

play however you want to play, it doesnt mean its anything optimal

[loud vortex]

Ok ended

[sand marsh]

i wasnt really flaming you. my version of flaming would get me banned from this discord lol.

i just think ur logic is flawed

[slow saddle]

and people have a right to call it out if it gets brought up, its fair game

[sand marsh]

you do you bud

[tulip charm]

well, first of all, they are not flaming you

[slow saddle]

i tried to explain, but i also tried to understand

we went through a whole ass convo just to find out it was preference

with no logic behind it

which is fine

[loud vortex]

Anyway, we all just play like how we like while not bothering others

[slow saddle]

how you play your game has 0 impact on my gameplay, so it doesnt matter in the end

[loud vortex]

And we all have fun in playing, then that's good enough

[slow saddle]

doesnt mean we cant talk about it if things are brought up

i rarely flame people or are even toxic to begin with

that only happens when people are 'factually' wrong, not objectively, nor opinionated

[loud vortex]

I only flame ppl when they dced right before g2

[slow saddle]

i cant blame them knowing how AGS servers are and how we serve some 3rd world countries

[tulip charm]

rip, all vagris playeres will join your lobby now

[slow saddle]

[tulip charm]

[loud vortex]

I got one of them today

[vagrant cradle]

i hope vairgrys merges with naw

[loud vortex]

dced in hm Echidna

[slow saddle]

lump em all together and call it a day

they can fund their own servers without NAE surely right

[vagrant cradle]

[final kelp]

theres a lot of things that straight up cancel grudge, i remember when everyone was hitting bosses without the -10% incoming damage elixir and they slapped a free 8% reduction on master/critical/pulv

[loud vortex]

Thank god I got another person to unjail it

[final kelp]

not to mention if you play with aero/ss/bards its a raid-wide boss debuff

[slow saddle]

it doesnt matter in the end

its moot to discuss

what you'd be saying is factually true but not for someone who is using something based on their own preference

even if its sub optimal or they lack the skill

[loud vortex]

If ur in a raid, do the adequate dps, do mechs, and that's it

If u have met all those basic req, then u can do whatever u like

[wise pasture]

I see it simply, if having grudge and taking attack makes you die, you should have dodged the attack

[tulip charm]

slight time capsule, its kinda funny its the other way around now, now they steal global ark grid tech and global players no longer trust kr opionions, hmm

[viscid sand]

comfort builds will generally outperform bis builds for the average casual player

[final kelp]

blame support instead, thats what i do

[wise pasture]

true

[tulip charm]

all i know is i stopped trusting koreans ever since echidna 1.0 ez raid ez game they said, fking liers

[slow saddle]

i agree, but id like adults who play this game to open with "im a casual player who plays fairly average"

before engaging in a convo

simple

then convos get framed accordingly

[sand marsh]

ehh it was relatively easy. KR is also the same ppl that said serca nightmare is akin to TFM. Ivory tower is hard without 40 set, that thaemine g3 is extremely hard

cant trust em

[loud vortex]

I admit that I'm dumb and likely lack of skills in nmm serca, since I basically got carried by my bf

[viscid sand]

ye. the premise also matters a lot since there are variations to "good enough to clear content", "good enough to dodge gatekeeping" and "bis for parsing", but ppl generally skip the premise and just give their thoughts

[loud vortex]

But, since I'm not doing nmm serca anymore, so everything is phine

[tulip charm]

yes, but there is a difference than intentially sandbagging your char, personally i don't like to play ceiling chase builds, i will play the setups that have a lower ceiling but a much higher floor, i am not gonna pick a option that gives me lower ceiling AND lower floor

[slow saddle]

the usual amirite

[swift magnet]

sad no gold

[loud vortex]

No one will care if I'm doing 700m or 800m dps in hm serca, since it's a overkill anyway

so, grudgeless I go

[viscid sand]

ya, and you do you. no one's gonna challenge that. but like i said, the premise matters. if someone is saying they are using xyz build because it's comfortable for them, it's pretty pointless to go "your build is jsdfsdjfskotpimal"

[slow saddle]

only folks that have the same standards as you wont care**

[sand marsh]

back in t3 around vykas era i advocated against grudge. because there was footage of mayhem zerker getting 1 shot by vykas normal patterns with it on. but not much longer later i realized how much it gutted my damage and i was afraid to greed stuff with it on

[slow saddle]

you cannot frame the rest of the community around that

[loud vortex]

ye tru tho

[slow saddle]

if a dps applies to my lobby and they dont have grudge, they're getting declined

if you're raiding in a private team every week, then it doesnt matter a single bit as long as the people in there are okay with everything you're running with

some folks may still not be okay but it goes down to whoever has the highest leverage

[loud vortex]

Most of the ppl today only look at the cp tho

[sand marsh]

slowly getting there x.x

need to stockpile on silver rip

[final kelp]

my static wont let me pull nim on dps bard cuz then we'd be down two supps

[sand marsh]

[sand marsh]

shouldn't knock dps artist. its better than paladin/bard

if your looking at top parses that is

[final kelp]

everythings running my silver dry 💀

[loud vortex]

I haven't been gatekept due to grudgeless in any lobby I applied, so I guess it's phine

[sand marsh]

ppl prolly dont notice

but if someone pointed it out or looked for it, yeah prolly

[loud vortex]

(unless someone in this discord gatekeeps me)

[final kelp]

I'm not a fan of the ayaya body! But the dps builds look fun

[loud vortex]

[slow saddle]

we have a larger sink of silver from so many subsystems than we do for generation

but its fine for folks who have tons of chars / stockpiled for a while / don't generally mass hone (weaker rosters overall)

[sand marsh]

im always of the mindset of constantly improving as a player. i find it foreign to not parse and try to squeeze out as much as possible & challenge yourself

but i guess thats what a casual gamer is.

[loud vortex]

Usually u won't even notice if a grudgeless 1750 with 5k cp applying to ur act 4 hm lobby tho

[sand marsh]

ive been indoctrinated into parse mindset

[sand marsh]

well these days i practically bus everything, so yea i wouldnt notice it

[loud vortex]

respect

[slow saddle]

i play to win and to better myself at as much things as i can in life, so it just naturally trickles down into games

[viscid sand]

on one hand you can improve in gearing, on the other you can improve in experience. I wouldn't say that the player is completely not trying to parse if they forego the former

[loud vortex]

respect too

[slow saddle]

and i prefer spearheading things for lesser/weaker/etc friends

[loud vortex]

[sand marsh]

yeah this

[slow saddle]

someone has to do it

[sand marsh]

i think its an ego thing for me as well

i hate see someone one-upping me as a support

i reject it and try to improve lol

[final kelp]

i love competing against friends for top dmg / chasing bible percentile

[sand marsh]

yea its fun imo

[slow saddle]

i feel happy knowing i can do things to improve myself and help others in the process

not being able to help others, makes me feel helpless overall and a disservice to those around me

[loud vortex]

I only compete with my bf

He has the standard build and 6k cp

[zenith canyon]

keep it for ur bf, but dont spread NO grudge for other players

[tulip charm]

ive seen some stupid shit people do, because they wanna "chase the ceiling" make your char as janky as possible put on mass engraving with negative attack speed so they can do more "ceiling" because this guide said so

[loud vortex]

so if I hage higher dps than him, then I'll def mock him

[tulip charm]

comfort high floor is better than slow ass awkward jank with higher ceiling always in my book

[sand marsh]

i dont think he was necessarily spreading it, but coming outta left field and trying to rationalize it was weird

[slow saddle]

oh i agree too but thats also not applicable to everyone nor every class nor raid

you can forgo 10% atk speed if it makes you have enough timing of a damage window to use your skills and still dodge

speed isnt always everything if you have downtime as a class as well

it should be centralized around what gives you the highest uptime as a dps

[tulip charm]

i have no problems with this, but i will also say if your gonna try to do this in tfm prog, plz GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE RAID

[visual socket]

Hello lost arkers

[tulip charm]

my prog got ruined by idoits like this

[visual socket]

[slow saddle]

prog and parse should never be together

[sand marsh]

no u are wrong about this zheng

ppl who truly are good and parse

wont jail the raid

they will both parse

and live

you just came across monkeys

[slow saddle]

they will but the mindset is important where people's ego are too big and think they are an asset for parsing but die often

[visual socket]

However people that parse, have also died many many times trying to greed til they got it down

[final kelp]

we have proggers and reclear gunlancers dying more than my dps bard
im a full 8 group

[tulip charm]

you realize my prog static after 2 weeks got ruined by this right? and on my clear run, we kicked the db that was doing this shit jailing the raid to become infinite 2-1 prog, after we kicked the db we 1shot the raid all 8 alive till the end?

[sand marsh]

well in that context, thats the supports fault for also not greeding and min-maxing

a lot of supports are lazy

and play lazy

[tulip charm]

and i ended up wasting infinite time inbetween

[slow saddle]

if someone chooses to continue to get better and parse higher, while reducing their death count, thats totally fine

esp if they're carrying heavy damage in a raid, you have to make some bias towards exceptions

[visual socket]

thats true, PLZ GIEF DR

[tulip charm]

i am pretty sure this is what that sideral 10 zerker guy was doing, his now famous/infamous

[visual socket]

Tho if its prog lobby, they might actuaklly not know about the DR timings

[sand marsh]

in a situation where a dps dies, it's 99% of the time the supports fault in my opinion

since 99% of things in this game can be mitigated

so imo, always greed

[final kelp]

what if my dps are headless chickens that dont wanna stand in godsent/rhapsody

[zenith canyon]

[visual socket]

Typical american freewill view

[sand marsh]

aim it better

the 1st tick is what matters

[zenith canyon]

u placed it WRONGLY

[sand marsh]

[tulip charm]

i lived in monkey town for a little longer than 2 weeks, sometimes i feel like i regressed into a monkey after this raid

[final kelp]

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/giantsbetta-small-monkey-monkey-backpack-monkey-gif-13385757124521273001

[sand marsh]

cant speak for rhapsody tho

[slow saddle]

everyone should always be around the boss

But there are times where a support does need to prioritize things like if someone got knocked into narnia, what can you do

[sand marsh]

im a pally main

[slow saddle]

blame the dps or go save them

[final kelp]

the proggers are deadass dodging lines instead of eating rhapsody on the floor icba

[visual socket]

https://tenor.com/view/pou-pou-plush-sad-shower-pou-meme-gif-16011536212557006281

[slow saddle]

its not realistic for any dps to have perfect fight always where they arent knocked

[visual socket]

This is the dps POV

[slow saddle]

or sent flying

[visual socket]

He deserved to die

[viscid sand]

im in this and i don't like it. narnia is a wonderful place tho.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1004108480438878271/1168977193125290034/ezgif.com-gif-maker.gif

[sand marsh]

spatial awareness is key as well. which a lot of supports lack. not seeing where everyone is positioned, there HP bars, etc

[loud vortex]

I'm just,,,, not that into parsing stuff

[tulip charm]

i don't quite agree with this, in the sense i won't put myself into a situation if the support dosn't fking save me i will die, i just don't play like that

[loud vortex]

a clear is a clear imo

[visual socket]

Well parsing = playing better/performing better

[sand marsh]

well if everyone played like that, we'd eventually have better supports

[tulip charm]

and if i do end up in that sort of situation, its because i fked up

[sand marsh]

[loud vortex]

that mindset is probably due to that I'm doing lower raids every week

[visual socket]

Alot of parsers places atk patterns etc so they can have better uptime -> cleaner fights

[slow saddle]

you dont always have a choice is my particular point

theres a massive difference between a support who is aware of their teammates/comps vs one who isnt

you'd be right but its not realistic

[loud vortex]

especially when extremely overgeared, like 5.5k cp in act 1 hm

[visual socket]

*atleast I'm coping that they do, in Hell people did

[sand marsh]

yeah most supports are there for the gold, turning brain off

[slow saddle]

everyone knows we're trying to 'avoid' certain situations

being a good player is knowing how to adapt when put in a situation

[loud vortex]

so I usually don't care about parsing

[sand marsh]

meanwhile im out here trying to get 100/100 in every single content i do

[final kelp]

i'd love to see dps put themselves in dangerous situations, so that i can get better at telling what moves are actually dangerous vs good dps windows with support care

[loud vortex]

I know

[final kelp]

especially high para/push classes that can abuse a good rhapsody

[sand marsh]

yeah people dont realize that its way more fun if a support is playing with a greedy player

it forces you to actually try

if that makes sense

[final kelp]

yeah let me SWEAT

[visual socket]

anyway daily reset soon

[sand marsh]

^^

[slow saddle]

kaz is a great example of expectations around counters and clashes

Yet still fail at times and have to restart the whole ass raid because of 'expectations'

[loud vortex]

But long time farming will eventually make my brain and hands wither

[visual socket]

see you chat

[sand marsh]

oh yeah this is very stupid...

seen a few situations like that

[tulip charm]

you know how many times ive seen back attackers intentionally glue themselves on the ass of kaz in hm2-2, when he does the double justguard into sword dive with a giant big aoe around him, and there is a hitbox directly on his ass at the end of the mech? yea, don't put yourself there, pretty sure 90% of the back attackers put themselves there anyways and if the support dosn't dr they die

guess they just die then

[slow saddle]

idk who you raiding with where your experiences are that strongly guiding your opinions LOL

[viscid sand]

I think it depends to what degree do you expect to overgear everything, rather than playing at the razor's edge

like my friends and I always try to clear x content with the lowest cp possible

[slow saddle]

like 90% of the time, things are fine

[sand marsh]

dont pay attention to zheng, he's coming across demons in pugs LOL

[final kelp]

no fr 😭

[loud vortex]

For a person who clear all T4 raids every week, parsing is something that she will always forget

[slow saddle]

the remaining time, you will have bad runs, and some of it can be salvage

Not everyone wants to salvage a run is what im saying

[tulip charm]

different raid mentality, your not wrong, i just personally don't like to play like that

[slow saddle]

and in the end, thats what separates players apart

[tulip charm]

you know when i posted logs, i had alot of people ragging on the soulfist and the paladin in my clear run?

[loud vortex]

Even today, I have no idea what is my limit is and how much dps I can do in a raid

[tulip charm]

i don't even know how to read the meter until someone pointed this out to me, apparently the paladin had ass uptime or something

[viscid sand]

if you're gonna jijaboom the boss, then it's not really a "parse" unless you're aiming to beat your previous pb, but it's honestly fine to just go for the clear all the time. experience makes you an ok player as it is

[sand marsh]

when you play with really good supports, i am very confident you'll want too eventually

just have to find one

[tulip charm]

but idk, at that point i am just glad we cleared, that paladin and the 9% grey soulfist died like once in 2 hours

as far as i am concerned those guys were fking heros

[swift magnet]

[sand marsh]

yeah i bet they did lol

[loud vortex]

I just grab any valky and crit syn, and go speedrun act 1&2 hm, with 4k cp

[swift magnet]

upgrade for ratti

[slow saddle]

i could sit here and flame the person who called and said they'd sac for 2-3 but didnt go in

I could also say they shouldnt have been in a situation prior to burn their stand-up or get good and avoid attacks

or i could just be mindful that failures happen and things arent always ideal, so in case things go bad, a player can step up to the plate and go in

[loud vortex]

so I'm dumb indeed

[tulip charm]

you saw the numbers?

[sand marsh]

ya

[tulip charm]

i still don't care, id take that grey soulfist anyday instead of braindead se wiping the raid all day everyday and the troll db's we got

[sand marsh]

a clear is a clear but the flame is valid at the same time

i understand both povs

[viscid sand]

my lobbies are
"who sac?"
"first come first serve"
"3 ppl get sac'd"

[slow saddle]

"i guess no one is going to counter"

[loud vortex]

bruh

[slow saddle]

why dont u do it?

[viscid sand]

[loud vortex]

I'm always sac in act 5 hm

[slow saddle]

you're right, let me stop dpsing entirely, swap to pistol stance and sit there until its ready to counter time

[loud vortex]

since I dunno how to do sac mech without being a sac

[slow saddle]

or we can delegate to the players who are most fit to do certain roles

[sand marsh]

if no counter happens, just flame the support easy

[viscid sand]

it's just dodge sim into guard

[sand marsh]

unless its a bard

they need there counter for meter

unfortunately

[loud vortex]

From the 2nd week prog to tfm prog, I was the sac, always

[final kelp]

bards have 2x stacks counter now

[loud vortex]

[final kelp]

they refresh on success counter

[sand marsh]

oh right double buckshot

but if your like me, a greedy pig

you use both off cd

i use holy sword off cd

[loud vortex]

So I have no idea how to do that mech

[final kelp]

im the greedy pig

its push immunity

[sand marsh]

haaha same

[tulip charm]

you say that, but the +10 sideral zerker guy is prob still there, i think other groups started taking 4.5k cp players over him, so he finally made his own lobby and removed the "rtc" from the title

[slow saddle]

some people are bad

it is what it is

[tulip charm]

actually, gonna take a look to see if he cleared

[final kelp]

i keep hearing about the zerker 😭

[slow saddle]

its how you deal with it and move on, that makes things less annoying

[sand marsh]

during my tfm adventure i came across sidereal db's who were pretty bad

not all whales are good

[wise pasture]

[sand marsh]

some are great, but some are bad

[loud vortex]

[wise pasture]

it is growing

[viscid sand]

so the usual spread then

[loud vortex]

Some might be a casual player but has tons of money

[sand marsh]

well it stands out more because of the shiny blue thing

[loud vortex]

idk

[slow saddle]

i personally am not gonna sit and flame someone like its some trauma where i need to keep bringing down their character

idk what their situation is, their mental aptitude, etc

If they werent toxic or trying to be helpful, i see no issue than to just properly leave and go finish with a better team

can call someone shit but how many times we gonna do it

[final kelp]

overgearing to parse ❌
overgearing to compensate ✅

[slow saddle]

and yes folks like that give whales and all that a bad rep/name, the usual

it is what it is

[viscid sand]

[loud vortex]

That's probably me, but not that rich

[sand marsh]

i never flame in the ingame chat

[loud vortex]

[sand marsh]

i just keep it to myself but

i see why ppl get mad

[viscid sand]

i aint got time to flame in chat

[slow saddle]

same

Ill share my opinions with folks in a call or when its brought up but its a one-time deal and move on

[viscid sand]

there is 86cpm to achieve

[tulip charm]

i was bad, and i slowly became better, i went from 2-2 prog to 2-2 300bar prog to 2-3 prog to sac prog

i fking earned my rtc status

[slow saddle]

rather give people the benefit of the doubt and say 'i hope you clear' (just not with me, kthnx)

[loud vortex]

I invested a lot in my roster to compensate that grudgeless thingy tho

[sand marsh]

dont get me wrong, i am flaming them, all the time

but i keep it to myself

[tulip charm]

meanwhile 90% of the people joined "rtc" just to make it infinite 2-1 prog

[slow saddle]

i could also argue i deserve an esther more than they do

[loud vortex]

what is esther?

[sand marsh]

trueee

get that shiny blue thing on ya

[viscid sand]

maybe if you traded in your controller, you can get a fraction of their esther

[loud vortex]

[slow saddle]

i might tbh, we're selling our business assets next year

[tulip charm]

i am the latter, being the later lets me turn off my brain and just clear

[loud vortex]

What is an esther tho

[sand marsh]

someday ill let you play with me

[slow saddle]

why not both

[sand marsh]

you'll understand how fun parsing is

[slow saddle]

ezpz

[loud vortex]

same as sidereal or something?

[slow saddle]

earn giga gear to parse when u want to

earn giga gear to eat food during a raid and press half the buttons because you earned that right

[tulip charm]

wdym

[viscid sand]

overgearing to compensate for the lack of parsing

[tulip charm]

you showed up on day randomly in my raid

[sand marsh]

that was a one-time occurence lol

[tulip charm]

and your rng just casually puts a ancient core box in the community auctioin

[slow saddle]

i went afk for 1/3 of a raid last week with my friends to respond back to slack messages

[sand marsh]

what i mean is ill create an enviorment for you one day, a difficult one, where you will be forced to parse

and from there, you'll understand how fun it is

[slow saddle]

or maybe they wont care too you know

i know some folks like that

[tulip charm]

i already did that, nightmare serka week 1 was basicly this exact scenario

you gotta greed everything possible to clear

[sand marsh]

i think zheng wants too but keeps getting shitty supports. he's a pug andy

[tulip charm]

i can play like that, i just don't to play like that

[sand marsh]

not much u can do in that situation

[slow saddle]

you can have 7 competitive people in a raid and that 1 friend who is half the dps of the 2nd to last person, but they dont feel bad or any shame or any motivation

[tulip charm]

no, i have static for all hw raids for all a4h, all serkas, but i have to pug some of my kaz hms

[sand marsh]

how about this zheng

i bring u to a 2c serca

just me and you

[loud vortex]

So, do u guys all have statics?

[sand marsh]

[loud vortex]

[tulip charm]

nty i don't wanna buss

[sand marsh]

fuuuuuuk

[wise pasture]

[tulip charm]

you already ask chuan and ishy for this, your not short on people that wanna do this

[slow saddle]

i raid with as much people from my community, friends of friends, and the rest i pug

no 'official' static but we try to set groups when possible

[tulip charm]

id rather not

[slow saddle]

its just a lot of effort to coordinate time and ensure evreyone is available and so on

bare minimum static for mains, alts whatever

[loud vortex]

phuck, I have no static at all

[sand marsh]

thats where parsing really shines tho, in a 2c enviorment because the raid is a lot longer

[slow saddle]

like my nightmare serka is set

the rest isnt

[sand marsh]

but np zheng

maybe some day

[loud vortex]

always drifting to random pug lobbies

[slow saddle]

nothing wrong with it but expectations change, is all it is

[loud vortex]

I cleared my tfm and nmm serca with pure pugs

[tulip charm]

you need to randomly show up again

i need your rng

[sand marsh]

[tulip charm]

but our static we have support surplus

[loud vortex]

I want some kinda static but never find one

[tulip charm]

look harder

[sand marsh]

i do randomly show up to kaz hm sometimes

if im rlly lazy

[tulip charm]

they are out there, and you have your options, pick the right one

[sand marsh]

every static ive had, i couldnt committ too

i eventually spend more time than them progging

i get way too far ahead

then i jus, bounce

how it always goes

finding a degen static is really hard

[loud vortex]

bouncing

[viscid sand]

tfw they can't sell their soul like you can

[sand marsh]

[viscid sand]

that's how one of my static members just decided to up and quit

cause he legit just could not commit after changing jobs

[tulip charm]

fyi his the moderator for a bussing discord, he just wants infinite gold from bussing, there is nothing wrong with this

[loud vortex]

[sand marsh]

https://www.hushwish.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/emo_mokoko3_027.gif

[loud vortex]

Ok he's a pro that I might never meet in game

[tulip charm]

that dosn't equate to a "pro", he just wants infinite gold and he committed

[sand marsh]

well i wouldnt say im a pro.

[tulip charm]

if you do that, you can't conform to a static

[sand marsh]

but i do pug some things

[tulip charm]

thats just how it is

[slow saddle]

win n lose

give n take

[sand marsh]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1463316273906843856/1487291125504020540/1.gif?width=418&height=158

[slow saddle]

it would be nearly impossible to have a perma static for all raids while bussing it together/rotate players, doing so at the same times

[loud vortex]

anyway, I'll win at lailai island

[sand marsh]

yeah not enough time

i plan to take a long break from it soon. i just need to finish up some loose ends on ark grid and last 2 alts to 1750

then i can finally relax

[slow saddle]

2 of the people in my rotating groups work at a hospital so their shifts change

I have meetings that arent the same each week and so on

All of that adds up for scheduling

the only consistent people who can raid at the same times every single week are:

• The jobless ones
• the college kids

[swift magnet]

[sand marsh]

well same time every week would logically be a consistent work schedule as well right

[tulip charm]

some of these books went back up abit

[slow saddle]

depending on the job, yeah

[tulip charm]

adren was 105k earlier this week

now its like 130ish again

[sand marsh]

im self employed so i can pick my own hours thankfully

i always schedule the same time tho

refuse to work mornings

[swift magnet]

ya thats why i bought 2 on wednesday when it dropped around eu midnight and got my last rc with argos event.

now i cans ell all books xD

[sand marsh]

taxes

[slow saddle]

oh thats fun

[sand marsh]

im the evil tax man

as americans would say

[swift magnet]

it was to be expected that prices go up again with alls electors gone

[slow saddle]

not entirely

its just people dont know their finances

[viscid sand]

2 of my group work shifts and it's not even the same cycle one's on a 4 day shift cycle the other is on a 6 day cycle. but i feel like the group is good enough where we just need < 2 days to really get the raid down

[slow saddle]

between their earnings, spending, what they owe, etc

[sand marsh]

when you file taxes for people and business, you truly get a grasp on how stupid the average person is.

it's.... very scary lol.

[slow saddle]

yup

and when you're insanely knowledgeable, you get giga $10k+ tax returns from the IRS

yes, same for us

[swift magnet]

the average person doesnt look for loopholes to get more back, the extremely lazy ones let ppl do their taxes xD

[sand marsh]

yeah but even if u know nothing about taxes, some of these people don't have common sense

[slow saddle]

except when you're a 1099 contractor or get paid from things like twitch or uber, you have a personal responsibility

to pay your taxes

[sand marsh]

it's not loopholes. majority of americans cant get those loopholes

most americans are W-2 workers

[slow saddle]

its not even loopholes yeah

[sand marsh]

so there's no loopholes there.

[slow saddle]

its just basics of how things work

[swift magnet]

[sand marsh]

its just people who don't understand that the number in box 1 of your W-2 form you received, goes INTO BOX 1 OF THE PROGRAM

[slow saddle]

there are considerations for liabilities among other things, that separate people when they start to understand business vs personal earnings

[sand marsh]

CRAZY HOW HARD IT IS

HOLY SHIT

[slow saddle]

its an option

[swift magnet]

well ya in germany there are some ways to get more back.

[swift magnet]

okay thats wild

[sand marsh]

yea as i said

[slow saddle]

we have scholarships to apply for, grants, financial aid, and loans (private, public, etc)

[sand marsh]

the average person

is stupid

sad reality

[slow saddle]

theres many options

people just dont do research or look stuff up, and people outside the US don't know how things work in the US

[sand marsh]

if you have a scholarship/grant, you typically get a 1098-T from your college, you can input that on your tax return and get the lifetime learning credit or AOC

so you can get some money back in that aspect but

that's pretty simple since filing it online is just inputing the numbers where they go

i used to be

but IT is more chaotic than the world of taxes

specifically, being replacable is easy

[loud vortex]

[swift magnet]

german students are also kinda dumb or more accurate not exactly dumb but school doesnt teach you that even if you are a student and have a minijob where you pay minimal taxes you can file a tax report and get money back by simply telling how far away your workplace is from home

simple things

[slow saddle]

gotta work towards being non-replaceable in the world, is what a lot of folks dont learn as they get older

[sand marsh]

yeah i understand that

but you have the entire internet at your fingertips

[loud vortex]

Go study material engineering then

[sand marsh]

you can learn literally anything you want

[loud vortex]

[slow saddle]

if theres nothing that separates someone apart, you dont really amount to much

[sand marsh]

and yet people use it for fucking tiktok

lol

[loud vortex]

not quite replaceable, but low income

and boring af

[swift magnet]

yus but 90% dont even think about it

kinda sad

[sand marsh]

yep. if i wasnt around the entire program would likely fall apart. the problem with standing out is everyone comes to you for EVERYTHING

like holy shit i wish i played the stupid-guy card

[slow saddle]

distracted & irresponsible is all it is

and people are just naturally arrogant to begin with so

add all that together with whatever insecurities and illnesses they have

and you get your 'average' person

[sand marsh]

if there's a tech issue, i get like 10 dms from coworkers, including my boss.

if there's a product defect, another 10 dms

i shoulda played stupid

[slow saddle]

i been through that, but i fight for more in the process of it

if people dont see the value, you move on

let things fail

and you never play all your cards at once

[sand marsh]

yea they 100% see my value

[slow saddle]

you dont share all your ideas, you dont give beyond 100%, you pick n choose your battles

[sand marsh]

its just exhausting sometimes when you feel like your the only competent one lol

[slow saddle]

the ones with the suicide nets?

atm they're using AI as well to see what workers are doing to replicate and train, to replace them

its constant recording and analyzing

we dont need ai for that

we just dont need koreans is all it is

you and i both know thats in context of the company

quick, clip it out of context for racism

[potent dagger]

didnt that dude quit ?

[slow saddle]

what kind of consulting

[swift magnet]

aaaand gold gone xD

[slow saddle]

yup

[potent dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/stickers-sticker-gif-joke-jokes-funny-animals-gif-18738981

[slow saddle]

folks who do full time twitch for games like this

never really have come off as folks who have anything substantial going on career wise or some form of success

its why i like johnpal so much because its not his main thing but still streams often, while doing this thing

[nova summit]

in game dps meter bugged lol again

each my ability does 2b+ at 1670

[wise pasture]

[thorn basin]

67

[swift tree]

[slow saddle]

gratz!

[quartz dock]

guys anyone got that ark grid core dmg increase % picture? I can't seem to find it online

[slow saddle]

this one?

[quartz dock]

yes thank you!

[errant fable]

rly good drop rate

[bleak zinc]

[narrow nova]

why is swift higher than flashy whut

Old ones weren’t like that

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1455946369087836304/1475205799981617182/image.png?ex=6a0967b6&is=6a081636&hm=e3696595d5652dd822244a3148624da114ab8389d7e8445d3556210dfa4ffa9e&

[slow saddle]

oh right, there was 2 versions

since one was evaluating RC/atk speed and so on

idr what it was exactly but thats what i had on me

tl:dr its always been going for flashy/smoldering/attack

[narrow nova]

Ah

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-plan-of-attack-gif-24052477

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/nomf-cat-nom-bnun-gif-8943272822447325051

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-flabbergasted-shocked-wink-reaction-gif-25698054

[tulip charm]

whats the name of the 10x blue serka title?

[cyan fog]

has anyone tried tfm g2 yet

i hear that this dogshit "bug" is only being experienced by the 4 man bus parties

[mystic sphinx]

Isnt it shadow of agony

[tulip charm]

tyty

[zenith canyon]

what bug?

[cyan fog]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2771830115?t=02h32m48s

he just fast-forwards intermission and immediately does half and full meter after punches

if its only for the 4c bus party then were saved but if its for everyone its cooked

cba progging full meter that nobody ever did, 9m fight and then someone dies at star

[mystic sphinx]

inb4 its added artificial difficulty

[covert remnant]

Is that the mech for relic selector?

[cyan fog]

the one with red lines ye

[errant fable]

the 100% bar yes

[cyan fog]

but that mech is a horror

[errant fable]

like 7 ppl can die befor that mech and 1 guy can do it

[covert remnant]

Like the valtan pillar hiding?

[cyan fog]

hell no

the one after with red lines + stand still + eye chasing you

[errant fable]

big fucking onehit attacks

[cyan fog]

the pillar mech is more or less fine after some pulls i think

just play double artist so they can cleanse your mistakes 🧠

[cyan fog]

act 3 hm "homework"

[zenith canyon]

weekly buyer

[mystic sphinx]

Why u in mordum pf

[zenith canyon]

cuz hes weak and his roster isnt 1710+

[thorn basin]

week

[cyan fog]

i was just perusing for potential lobbies for my inanna boxes

[mystic sphinx]

Join my armoche instead

[cyan fog]

ive done my armochi's

it was only shitter raids like a2/3

[burnt tree]

unrested run, very nice

large astro, smol mats

[wise pasture]

send gems

[devout nymph]

large astro more like -40k gold

[mystic sphinx]

Thats 4 relic books

[desert plank]

No...

[zenith canyon]

[covert remnant]

closing in on the 5k mark

[zenith canyon]

CASUAL

[covert remnant]

lol ofc

the fk we even do besides raids to spend that much time anyway

[zenith canyon]

u could do some nice stuff before, now its not rly that much

[burnt tree]

fk

[wise pasture]

afk

[wise pasture]

books dont have big booba, therefore declined

[desert plank]

afk with friends

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[burnt tree]

now i gotta wait till reset for the book

zzzz

[mystic sphinx]

whats the hurry amigo

[burnt tree]

none akshually

i just like feeling secure by getting things early

[mystic sphinx]

chinesebruhcat

[desert plank]

why this mote reminds me to memorizer?

[mystic sphinx]

mexicanbruhcat

[covert remnant]

you're 40 more

last run......that mf pushed me off cliff before dying at 1 hp bar!

lost all coins

[burnt tree]

i did my first run on GK so i think i got less coins by default

but i got lucky both runs on main

i got 50+ tokens just b4 he died

theres the mm pool for people 1729 and under

and another for 1730+ i think

so dumb

[potent dagger]

[orchid galleon]

https://lostark.bible/character/CE/Olobolo
anything i can do to improve?

[wintry depot]

Improve what

[wise pasture]

except the normal, better everything no

[wintry depot]

Your cp?

[orchid galleon]

ye

[wintry depot]

One of your ring is hogh nothing

[wise pasture]

honing weapon if you have bound reds is the best there atm

[orchid galleon]

dont have oreha

[wise pasture]

auction house does

[wintry depot]

Start working on books

[orchid galleon]

change for mid mid?

[wintry depot]

Its frog rn, books are less expensive

[wintry depot]

Yeah or high low

[orchid galleon]

imma buy engravings next week

[wintry depot]

Or can dip and gp high mid but they are very very expensive

Also

Ss is so bad

In serca

[orchid galleon]

what ss?

[wintry depot]

Stab status

[orchid galleon]

i know

i change it for cursed doll when i do g2

[wintry depot]

Ok good

[covert remnant]

[wise pasture]

just be zerker with master tenacity

[wintry depot]

I guess uwuowo is bugged because it shows di runes but ps ark passive

[orchid galleon]

whats better mid mid or high low

[wintry depot]

High low

[swift tree]

GL/Destro/Zerker eating well with book prices

[orchid galleon]

maybe because i was doing chaos rift

[swift tree]

Master Brawler, Barricade, MT and SS on the floor

[wintry depot]

Yeah maybe

[orchid galleon]

high mid ring is 330k

[distant flax]

If you have bound reds, buying/crafting fusions for weapon taps

[orchid galleon]

i can craft oreha i guess

[burnt tree]

i knew ure a whale frfr

[mystic sphinx]

sad rat noises

[swift tree]

just got a free relic key

[burnt tree]

dam

[swift tree]

tripped over at the end there but still 70+ ntb

[covert remnant]

the fk

that's not me

i wish there be a bug and i suddenly have 50m gold in my roster

[burnt tree]

xDD

50m gold would solve all my problems

[mystic sphinx]

i wish there was a bug and i magically got all 3 of the monthly paradise packs in my inventory

owogamble

[orchid galleon]

;p

[covert remnant]

ahhhhhh

argeos is pissing me off

[wise pasture]

not even 1800

[mystic sphinx]

imagine being 1730

[swift tree]

imagine being 1580

[potent dagger]

imagine playing LA

[swift tree]

Shit you right

[potent dagger]

[mystic sphinx]

wheres serca thorns in inventory

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[mystic sphinx]

oh im blind

[swift tree]

[mystic sphinx]

how many thorns for full transfer?

[mystic sphinx]

that doesnt answer the question

[swift tree]

purple, ancient, +20 or +25?

[mystic sphinx]

weapon 24

rest 20

purple

[cyan fog]

have you considered using your eyes

[swift tree]

math

[mystic sphinx]

no

[distant flax]

Uh we talking pre or post transfer #s? You need more thorns to push past 20 post

[potent dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-i-see-gif-25052382

[mystic sphinx]

im asking how many thorns in total it takes to transfer all gear

from aegir

[cyan fog]

115 thorns

[mystic sphinx]

purple?

[swift tree]

that's ancient

[cyan fog]

no the good ones

[mystic sphinx]

ic

[swift tree]

I dont remember the conversion and im in hell

[mystic sphinx]

ill check after gate

[cyan fog]

its

wait my brain is fried

[mystic sphinx]

stop doing tfm BeidouKek_

[cyan fog]

2300

unless im cooked

[mystic sphinx]

im gonna gain some cp and ilvl because of my weapon right

[cyan fog]

like 75 yeah

[mystic sphinx]

cool

need 20k more reds

[swift tree]

that doesnt sound right

[cyan fog]

its 5 ancient for 100 purple

so im pretty sure its 2300 purples for full transfer yeah

[swift tree]

nvm forgot that it gives you 400 per run

yeah it's 2300

6 normal mode runs for +25 wep and +20 gear isn't that bad tbh

ofc hm is more efficient

[cyan fog]

im already almost there on the gk

didnt do her raids yet either

[burnt tree]

[burnt tree]

i actually didnt realise u can get gear so fast on NM with the purples lmao

by the time i can get her 1730 she will get probably 4/6 if not full

[burnt tree]

Brel class change after getting her memories back

[wise pasture]

🐳

[wise pasture]

would be kinda cool actually

[burnt tree]

saddies

[undone summit]

@wise pasture gave @burnt tree +1 reputation.

[swift tree]

still need to do HM legion Brel

specifically on her

[burnt tree]

om

[burnt tree]

battling herself ong

[cinder mango]

fake brelshaza

https://tenor.com/view/brelshaza-brel-abrelshud-lost-ark-lost-gif-14855197319347314848

[cyan fog]

Behold the rebirth of the grand
....
Fire?

[burnt tree]

well she is a Haal soo

[cyan fog]

[swift tree]

Ebony Haal :3

[burnt tree]

imagine if getting her memories back she awakens fire powers too

[cyan fog]

Maybe she will remember how to be a good character

[burnt tree]

she was a good villain ngl, but i think she will be great as a good character

[swift tree]

you talking about her prophetic dialogue? it's because she's being used as a puppet

[cyan fog]

She was better when she had horns

[swift tree]

seer/oracle talk etc

[cyan fog]

Changed the entire intro into a living hell

Summoned meteors n shit

Now she's just weaksauce with no aura like thaemine

[swift tree]

if you member that part, should remember the second part

[cyan fog]

Didn't mind the dialogue so much when there's 10/10 eyecandy on screen (not her)

[slender sky]

@swift tree https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NQoblx2qTQk

thats how i imagine living in australia is like

[wintry depot]

@burnt tree its iu birthday today and the final episode of pf

[burnt tree]

totally not planned frfr

[swift tree]

to be more realistic that dragon would be dead, legs up on the side of a road whilst you're paying someone else's mortgage

[cinder mango]

what's up sathona

[burnt tree]

existing, wbu?

[cinder mango]

same

[burnt tree]

nais

[wintry depot]

yesss

[burnt tree]

i still havent watched it but i can atleast binge it when i do frfr

[wintry depot]

yeah XD

its decent

did you see

theres a solo leveling live action in plans

and koreans are cryign that its the pf actor that got chosen

[burnt tree]

yeah i know

[wintry depot]

and they are doing petitions to remove him

xddddddddddd

like come on

hes supposed to be stoic

hes a fuckign prince

[burnt tree]

they have been wanting him removed since the tax evaison shi

[wintry depot]

why koreans are so dumb

[burnt tree]

evasion*

[wintry depot]

yeah XD

wait

was he in that scandal

[burnt tree]

he commited tax evasion or something last year

[wintry depot]

its not the same guy

i think

[burnt tree]

oh

[wintry depot]

guy with tax evasion is cha eun-woo

[burnt tree]

hmm

these two look the same

[wintry depot]

XDDDDDDDD

people just say he cant act

so to remove him from the acting scene

[burnt tree]

well

Jinwoo is for the most part emotionless

outside of his mother and sister

so all good

he will be fine as a plank

[wintry depot]

xDD

i mean hes not even bad

i saw way worse actors

he was fine in lovely runner

[cinder mango]

https://tenor.com/view/oguri-cap-uma-musume-cinderella-gray-eat-eating-gif-6770234904401320070

[covert remnant]

[wintry depot]

no one is selling the new skins

deadgame

[mystic sphinx]

noones buying my skins too very dead game

[wintry depot]

because they ugly

[mystic sphinx]

nah

[wise pasture]

ugly and expensive

[mystic sphinx]

just dye it pink

[wise pasture]

even worse

[mystic sphinx]

the monster hunter sword should sell

mad

[nova garden]

I wonder if the f2p god ever offloaded his f2p investments

[wise pasture]

I can unload my atropine stacks to flood market

[potent dagger]

free 2 pay ?

[nova garden]

Surely he offloaded before he quit

[potent dagger]

did i miss smth or why are ppl puting them up for 600k wtf

while a lv 9 is 1.2m

[nova garden]

Oh, maybe I should log in and sell

[neon cedar]

Or just send em my way

[potent dagger]

like 1.2m for 9s

are ppl high or wht

[wise pasture]

maybe, i just posted my atros

[potent dagger]

i sold a 9 to get 3 8s gues i wait a bit

[potent dagger]

highest sold in history are 410-420k

[mystic sphinx]

we gonna make chocolate cake with mama

[modern hatch]

Share

[junior fern]

How does Innana's Blessing work for the bonus chest? I already bought the bonus chest on one character but now its letting me do it on another

I thought it was one chest per week

[modern hatch]

Its per gold earning character

[junior fern]

ooh

I see

[modern hatch]

As many chests as you want, on raids up to act 4 (armoche)

[junior fern]

As in, I can buy both G1 and G2 chests twice

on every single character

or just one of the gates, on every character

[zenith canyon]

both gates x6 chars

[junior fern]

woah...

then 1720 is pretty good value to push for

for the core pities huh

[zenith canyon]

not exactly great value for us at 1730++

but for any starter ark grid char its nice

[junior fern]

I see

My cores are okay but can use some extra help on the blues ig

[swift magnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68DQPCnauy0

[mystic sphinx]

no im choco addicted

[fresh flint]

Diabeetus

[mystic sphinx]

my mom put me infront of a dokutah when i was like 14 and she banned me choco milk

but idc

[potent dagger]

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-eat-pusheen-pie-cat-gif-18278570

[potent dagger]

jesus my last 9 fused gems are all dmg

i need cdr

[cursive ruin]

stop honing your shitbutts please

[wise pasture]

what that bard and reaper

[potent dagger]

net is the summoner

[modern hatch]

Theyre in normal not hard for a reason I suppose

[cursive ruin]

summ on sum 124m dps

[cursive ruin]

i'm not in this sc

[wise pasture]

do you want to be?

[cursive ruin]

need to read some yuri to calm my mind

yess

i love playing serca

but i'm done with hw

[stuck jasper]

when are we getting next pass

[potent dagger]

2027

[mystic sphinx]

in june

[cursive ruin]

they should've released it on my birthday (yesterday)

[mystic sphinx]

pass express bootcamp

all in june

[stuck jasper]

gz ❤️

[mystic sphinx]

this is what we get

[neon cedar]

Happy birthday Net

[mystic sphinx]

happy late penis

[cursive ruin]

thanks but i'm old now so i need care

[modern hatch]

Wonder if Braden will remember my birthday is in 2 months

[neon cedar]

Gonna need your grandson to help you cross the street from G1 to G2

[mystic sphinx]

as a birthday gift i'm asking for 5 lv11 gems

ty

[neon cedar]

When is it?

[stuck jasper]

lmao i have 2x lvl8 on my main

[modern hatch]

2 months from yesterday

[cursive ruin]

yo

peep this

[potent dagger]

start of june. so the 24th

[mystic sphinx]

july gang

[neon cedar]

July 15th 4 days after mine

[mystic sphinx]

[cursive ruin]

1982 -> 2035 combat wth

[mystic sphinx]

11 days before mine

[neon cedar]

July is the best time for birthdays

[deft ridge]

Which server is this?

[loud vortex]

[wintry depot]

eu

[potent dagger]

EU

7s are like you expect around 120-130k
9s are 1.2m
but 8s are doing weird stuff

xD

[covert remnant]

gem prices going up again?👀

8s are at 500k now

[neon cedar]

Whats wrong on EU. 8s are 360k as of last night on NA

[covert remnant]

dang it! i missed it

[mystic sphinx]

gooner

[wise pasture]

look at these whales buying skins for looks

[covert remnant]

holyyy

[potent dagger]

duno might be ppl trying to sell 8s for gold to buy books
but i duno why they'd try to increase from 400 to 600k

xD

[nova garden]

Isn’t that the only purpose gold serves in loa?

[mystic sphinx]

nvm

[wise pasture]

is it?

[neon cedar]

Tragic its a top +pants combo skin

[nova garden]

And buses

That’s all I spent my gold on.

[neon cedar]

Caliligos

We back in 2023

[nova garden]

[modern hatch]

I heckin LOVE carl

[potent dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/llamas-with-hats-carl-gif-11198275

[covert remnant]

lmaoooo who even buy these at this prices

these are like the first skins.....

[celest tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-spongebob-imagination-gif-11372160596784910779

[nova garden]

[neon cedar]

Nice, I even guessed the right year

[potent dagger]

only 85% in a solo fight?

[nova garden]

I’m sick nasty like that

[mystic sphinx]

thats the skin on the gif yuki_point

[covert remnant]

is this a steal?

bought it anyway