#lost-ark-discussions

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dull obsidian
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I am not getting this title

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LOL

modern hatch
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Just dont do content you dont want/cant so

obtuse oyster
uncut dirge
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maybe they really should've fucked over mono roster with gems and books after all

modern hatch
obtuse oyster
loud vortex
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mono roster is too boring to me

obtuse oyster
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like as if everyone didn't have to get over the gear curve

uncut dirge
modern hatch
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I just won't do content im not prepped for

uncut dirge
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i know you guys don't care how well the game is doing

modern hatch
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🤣

uncut dirge
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if the game drops below the player count it won't work anymore you'll just shrug and be like "lmao"

modern hatch
obtuse oyster
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If serca nm didn't give serca mats

uncut dirge
obtuse oyster
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You would have a leg to stand on

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You can legitmately only do nm raids

loud vortex
obtuse oyster
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And nothing is gonna hurt your progression

loud vortex
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unless they give me another 28 moko seeds

obtuse oyster
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don't even cap, by saying but but ark grid

loud vortex
uncut dirge
obtuse oyster
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Nothing is gated behind the HM

uncut dirge
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as is the fact that you're earning normal gold instead of HM gold

modern hatch
dull obsidian
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i STREAM

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ICEE

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WATCH INT

obtuse oyster
obtuse oyster
uncut dirge
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and despite that

loud vortex
uncut dirge
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after 6 months of doing it on normal

modern hatch
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Only 3!!

obtuse oyster
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True!!!

loud vortex
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even less than act 3 hm

uncut dirge
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those characters still haven't finishe the cores

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even just to relic

loud vortex
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they should have given us an ancient core selector as tfm clear reward mokokoAngry

uncut dirge
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i'm also wary of smilegate's noose

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i really wonder what they were thinking witht he new raid's ilvl

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cause they're gonna start nerfing gold on raids at that ilvl in like 3-6 months

obtuse oyster
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I think you should focus on playing hte game

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instead of making up boogey men

modern hatch
uncut dirge
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nope, thinking about this ahead of time is extremely useful

uncut dirge
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then SG sees this and whines about it on loa-on and throws big nerfs at gold earning at those ilvls

modern hatch
viscid sand
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considering they made it so that the boss no longer heals in enrage, you either overgear further to not see enrage, or you just gitgud at fighting it in enrage

sand marsh
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just have x1 1770 main and x5 1750 alts for cathedral raid and upcoming extreme aegir/brel

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pretty easy

viscid sand
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i think 2 of my pug groups this week cleared it 30s into enrage with ~3200 average cp

uncut dirge
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yeah i dont think people look at reclear as "just fight in enrage"

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they'll instead go "we don't take anyone below 3500"

viscid sand
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i dont see why not, that's what i see in nightmare as well.

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ya so if all the 3500+ make their group, i dont see why you cant make a full < 3500 lobby

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to say you dont have enough damage is like, ok sure ig. that just means the entire squad have no idea how to fight it in enrage either

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which is simply not true

swift tree
viscid sand
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and you can boost your damage more with the supports going explosive expert instead of max mp and eating food if they really wanted to clear with lower cp

uncut dirge
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i think the way to do that would be to do like a new tier of gear that's like 5x more expensive to do anything with and then new raids give 5x the gold and large part of it is bound

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gems are gonna be pretty funky in the future if they do the bound gold thing

uncut dirge
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cause with the way things are now, gems are gonna get cheaper, but are they gonna go to like half the price? doubtful

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cause people still have the old gold

obtuse oyster
uncut dirge
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must be nice having cheaper gems

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but i don't see how that's relevant to the discussion of "making (some) raid gold bound"

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obviously the current market isn't going to reflect that

viscid sand
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it's just matter of time and slowly thinning out the old gold if that's the concern

obtuse oyster
viscid sand
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at worst, you just hold out for a year until it all gets flushed out

sand marsh
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why do i see aeroon complainig everytime i look in here

obtuse oyster
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but better that then top end players getting 200k tradeable gold because the raid is 1900 or w/e

sand marsh
uncut dirge
viscid sand
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staring into the abyss

loud vortex
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@mystic sphinx Phink UwU

obtuse oyster
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Pink

loud vortex
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I like this pose pack UwU

viscid sand
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🐳

sand marsh
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why u ask such a simple question

swift tree
sand marsh
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its already stretched

swift tree
vagrant cradle
loud vortex
swift tree
loud vortex
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bruh, I just found out that u can be fully under water in Punika AKOKO

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drowning

swift tree
loud vortex
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Imma go try tmr

swift tree
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at the top near the broken bridge

wind dagger
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Wtf

slow saddle
tulip charm
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i found kat, what the fuck???

fresh flint
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Yeah but on purpose. I was so fucking tired bro

zenith canyon
potent dagger
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Who?

swift tree
loud vortex
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deadge They really need to add an infinitely exchangeable item in moko shop

fresh flint
fresh flint
potent dagger
fresh flint
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What the heck

swift tree
slow saddle
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most people just do enough raids for their weekly buyout and the occasional things they need

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excess is just......weird? or rather

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maybe its an outcome of doing all lower end raids

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which is likely

potent dagger
loud vortex
potent dagger
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Issue for like 0.001% of ppl

slow saddle
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honestly the smartest thing to do

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but only for f2p with time

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its cheaper to go cut grass or deliver food through ubereats for 2-3 hours and youll have juicer mats for weeks from the weekly package

potent dagger
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The amount of Potential extra jails is just to much

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Mordum bombas or ppl getting 20 stacks within 5s
Brell cant stagger or do colours g2 etc

slow saddle
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yup

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i can barely stomach a carry each week for bracelet tickets

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cus for whatever reason serka doesnt give a ticket

potent dagger
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Aegir ppl can’t move to shapes or stagger g2

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Echidna is prob fine

loud vortex
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nah Echidna has the most problem

potent dagger
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Cant think of a mech that is still played

loud vortex
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act 1 is the easiest

potent dagger
loud vortex
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in huge echidna phase in g2

potent dagger
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Just kill them and solo stagger

fresh flint
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everyone talks so highly of Mordum

potent dagger
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Replace one dps engrav for vpwahoo

fresh flint
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I think ill go do one

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Its bound to be such fun

potent dagger
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Me as #1 mordum hater

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Csnt pay me to do it

loud vortex
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act 1 is like, if u know how to do pattern in g1, then g2 is no problem

potent dagger
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Whats act1 ? Aegir?

loud vortex
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ye

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chicken raid

potent dagger
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G1 shape will wipe
And g2 saw stagger

loud vortex
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what stagger

potent dagger
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Thats all i can think off

potent dagger
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Saw counter

loud vortex
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that one is easier than shape tho

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I miss the days when hm act 3 is still a gold raid

fresh flint
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not me

supple surge
fresh flint
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that raid is/was aids

viscid sand
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I miss the days of act -1

loud vortex
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the phuck is act -1

viscid sand
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The act before act0

fresh flint
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NOT YOU TOO

viscid sand
fresh flint
viscid sand
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I'm memeing on zyra

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Cause she calls final day act5

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And serca act6

loud vortex
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Remember, strike raid is act π

supple surge
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act 7 when? DESPAIR

viscid sand
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It's act 3.5

loud vortex
viscid sand
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Not a fully story arc so it isn't dedicated a full act

thorn basin
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gonna praise the day when act 4 isnt a gold raid anymore uwu

loud vortex
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act 4 is fine

slow saddle
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not again

fresh flint
slow saddle
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NOT THIS AGAIN

thorn basin
slow saddle
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im gonna bribe some mods to start sending out some mutes

swift tree
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Serca isn't Act 6.
It's Shadow 1
and Kakul-Saydon Legion raid is 0.2

slow saddle
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it ends at act 4, then stfu after

loud vortex
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act 5 hm is long af

thorn basin
swift tree
thorn basin
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that gate just blows cock

swift tree
slow saddle
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no one like g1 for act 4 yeah

viscid sand
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I remember

slow saddle
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echidna annoying

swift tree
viscid sand
thorn basin
charred void
slow saddle
swift tree
thorn basin
viscid sand
charred void
swift tree
thorn basin
swift tree
slow saddle
thorn basin
slow saddle
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because many gates are quick n easy

slow saddle
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even ones that are fast, its an annoyance for force mechs and all that

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i dont think anyone likes x150 on g1

loud vortex
thorn basin
swift tree
fresh flint
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the shield mech is fucking stupid

viscid sand
slow saddle
thorn basin
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but the outside moans just keep coming

viscid sand
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(it's not 6)

slow saddle
slow saddle
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im just enjoying serka so much in general

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15-20 min in-n-out

thorn basin
swift tree
sand marsh
slow saddle
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nothing forced upon us mech wise

charred void
swift tree
sand marsh
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only because it'll be ez to bus

slow saddle
supple surge
slow saddle
slow saddle
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so shitters can stop bussing

viscid sand
sand marsh
swift tree
slow saddle
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not hard for the devs to implement solutions

viscid sand
sand marsh
slow saddle
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the raid gold system doesnt entirely promote it

loud vortex
slow saddle
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its all the systems and progression that lead to it

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including rice farming

loud vortex
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since Kazeros is the order guardian

slow saddle
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you can have a gold system without bussing being a solution to it

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piss poor excuse

loud vortex
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Thus, is act 5 actually a guardian raid?

sand marsh
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well people buy it in WoW even though you dont necessarily earn gold. but yeah it's much more valuable in this game

viscid sand
slow saddle
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we all know the greed is what does it

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there are many ways to intertwine grinding in this game like other MMOs

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or locking it down and forcing people to swipe if u want more, simple as that

swift tree
loud vortex
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1710 guardian raid: Order Guardian Kazeros

sand marsh
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i stopped for a while, before astrogems came out. then when it came out i told myself "this shit too expensive time to go back to the rice fields"

slow saddle
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everything in between is what causes issues with the state of the game for progression, bussing, etc

sand marsh
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if they didn't have systems that were so rng dependent i'd probably wouldnt do it as much

swift tree
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It's just shitty translation
"Guardian of Order" as in the Lord of Order.
not an actual Order Guardian (monster)

sand marsh
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but ark grid really fucked a lot of people

fresh flint
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The only reason you stopped is because you went play a diff game

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Quit capping

sand marsh
swift tree
slow saddle
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its an MMO tho

These hours are rookie for a game like this

If people had a minimum each week and could 'do more' they would, just like how people do it now

viscid sand
fresh flint
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Oh you finished your full set of 10s

sand marsh
fresh flint
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Then you went to a new game

fresh flint
sand marsh
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i stopped for months

fresh flint
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nah

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cap

sand marsh
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then ark grid was announced and i went back to the rice fields

swift tree
sand marsh
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too expensive

fresh flint
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🧢

sand marsh
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i want to speedrun it

charred void
sand marsh
swift tree
sand marsh
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everyone in here said i was sutpid

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stupid

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how the tables have turned

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people surely realize by now if you could just buy purples off the market it'd be a lot better

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i saw this miles away, months ago

swift tree
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I mean it'd be nice if a lot of the side activities didn't have the shelf-life of clearance dairy

slow saddle
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it already is tho

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18 raids a week

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  • dailies
swift tree
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Good ones are 1 and dones because the rewards are shit, and the ones with regular rewards are either whale-bait or exploited to fuck

slow saddle
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thats still arguably a lot

charred void
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we got meaningful content, for 10 days

slow saddle
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people know they dont want to settle with less

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no

loud vortex
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I prefer music box tho

slow saddle
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you misunderstand

viscid sand
slow saddle
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completely

loud vortex
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The stories are great

slow saddle
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im not advocating for that to be the standard, read carefully

slow saddle
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there should be a minimum for how much input gives high yields, then give scaleable solutions to 'do more' for people who want to do more

swift tree
viscid sand
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tbf OG MMOs didn't narrow down to 1 main activity.

slow saddle
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that too

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we'd had more options to do many things that yielded the same or similar results

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on LA, you have only 1 option

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you either raid or you dont progress

swift tree
loud vortex
slow saddle
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and because you limit it to one option, you get forced into it which is why shitty things like bussing exists

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they did it with the absolute worst yields on a f2p game where botting exists

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think

charred void
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wow private servers don't have bots, because the devs shoot them so they can sell their own gold Clueless

loud vortex
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Tbh, as long as the bus passengers are bound to the bus drivers, I don't really care about them

sand marsh
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not shabby

slow saddle
charred void
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ye insane 5 ade node

slow saddle
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hey look one solution of the many

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its not hard if they wanted to implement stuff like that

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or everyone being alive at the raid end

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or literally slashing rewards for being dead

loud vortex
charred void
slow saddle
fresh flint
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Some people don't deserve these types of gems.

slow saddle
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then they hide behind the 'im not causing that issue, im just getting an honest living for more gold from people who want to pay me!'

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i condemn it

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let people deal with their own problems in their own places

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welcome to life

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harsh reality

loud vortex
charred void
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entirely misses the point of video games which are(were) meant to be an escape from reality

slow saddle
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?

loud vortex
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I have seen tons of leafless mokokos, who just lose their moko status, and play like crap in act 2 and 3

slow saddle
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its a luxury to even be playing video games to earn anything

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you think thats poor?

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you had no clue

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not a single clue

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and ive worked for humanitarian organizations thats seen worst

surreal gyro
viscid sand
slow saddle
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its a blessing that even in 3rd world countries, they can go to a place to play games to sell for more money

slow saddle
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you dont condemn it, good for you

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we arent here to talk about morality on a video game

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or rather, whats outside of that

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no one cares about whats outside of it, its a video game

fresh flint
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i like to move it move it

slow saddle
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lock down and smite all RMT, no one care about who is benefitting from it as a job, thats not our problem

potent dagger
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Perma bann em all

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NAOW

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same with bussers

charred void
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just join some strongholds and click some boxes #theycantbanusall

fresh flint
slow saddle
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how is the game going to survive without them?!

surreal gyro
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to be honest guys, RMT and such has been a thing since the early 2000s in the early MMORPGS as well. It's 100% the developers fault for not designing their games with more strict measures. If the game is designed in a way where RMT can happen no matter how much they ban people it will still exist

slow saddle
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owait

fresh flint
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mkxddd o waittttt

surreal gyro
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look at KR despite there being more strict, there are still tons of people RMTing handfarmed gold

potent dagger
loud vortex
fresh flint
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bro im cold as fuck

loud vortex
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which is basically what Tencent did

surreal gyro
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i think the problem is that our RMT was mostly influenced by bots and it completely ruined the AH

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if people RMT with handfarmed gold its much more managable

charred void
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i got tired of buying fish for 5g because it only let me buy 9 stacks per 10 seconds

loud vortex
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The only reason why some ppl are doing RMT is just because of the cost-effectiveness

surreal gyro
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of course but if it is "legit" RMT this is gold that would naturally come to the game anyway, you just sell it to someone else

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bots on the other half inject gold that shouldnt be there

loud vortex
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It is more than 75% percent cheaper to buy stuff from a player than from the official shop

charred void
swift tree
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It the actual cost to value for official transactions weren't absolute dogshit, I mean...

slow saddle
surreal gyro
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to be honest if you buy skins and sell them after they rotate out you get very good value for money but people dont have the patience for that

slow saddle
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people literally lacked the braincells to not know how the gold exchange works

loud vortex
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Thus, the only way to prevent it, is to open a cheap p2w channel in the official shop

charred void
loud vortex
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Yes

slow saddle
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whats cheap for one person is expensive for another, theres never going to be a middleground

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well tbh, i take that back, there is a middleground

loud vortex
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That's exactly what Tencent did

surreal gyro
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if AGS did that in the West you think people would accept it ?

charred void
surreal gyro
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they would go crazy ovr it

fresh flint
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How does this work can someone explain am i paying 10 crystals for 207k or am i buying the 2,380? ConfusedAnimeGirl

slow saddle
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they have insanely jucied $10 packs, people can sell outfits/pets/mounts, but lazy folks dont

loud vortex
surreal gyro
fresh flint
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it was a joke

slow saddle
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yall took that serious

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and im laughing at it

fresh flint
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omg why are you actually explaining it

slow saddle
fresh flint
slow saddle
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LMAO

surreal gyro
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lol

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xddd

slow saddle
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they literally answered seriously

charred void
slow saddle
surreal gyro
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literally

loud vortex
charred void
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chris show 🐓

fresh flint
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WHATS WRONG WITH MY ROSTER BITCH

loud vortex
fresh flint
sand marsh
fresh flint
sand marsh
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chrissy pissy

surreal gyro
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double dip time

fresh flint
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i FIXCED IOT

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STOP

charred void
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wtf rich

swift tree
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I'm the only Aussie allowed to bully Chris

sand marsh
charred void
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another 4 aae

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big side nodes

sand marsh
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its ass cuz it isn't double sup

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im showing how unlucky i am

slow saddle
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2 more relics and combine it

charred void
slow saddle
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ezpz

sand marsh
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must be nice

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u want me to do thios?

charred void
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yes

slow saddle
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thats 3 relics?

sand marsh
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no

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2

charred void
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ping me when you get 1111

slow saddle
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i usually dont combine unless i have 3 relics

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that are unuseable

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no need to rush

fresh flint
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Also look, I'm making real gains OK pensive_cry

sand marsh
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well only 1 is unusable

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unless u mean like uh

slow saddle
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then wait and hold the rest

sand marsh
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no double sup lines

slow saddle
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yes

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well

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depends on what stage of the game you're at

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a relic with only 1 useable stat is fine to use

sand marsh
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well this is an alt

slow saddle
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yeah alts u just go for points and call it a day

surreal gyro
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am i the only one who is kinda bored with the game atm, like i really want to see whats coming in LOAON

slow saddle
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17p and stop caring basically

loud vortex
slow saddle
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lot of ppl enjoying serka

sand marsh
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well i want my alts to all be at 5k+ cp

slow saddle
loud vortex
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How many ass-troll-gems u have done?

charred void
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do you even need to cut 9s 10s will gems for support bis

surreal gyro
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yes i enjoy serka too,. but that's a 1 day adventure

loud vortex
sand marsh
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the rest have maxed out 100/100

charred void
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how important is that 3rd sup line vs boss dmg value for dps

slow saddle
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you can make it a not day 1 adventure and pace yourself so you dont get bored

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i know, kinda hard to do

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-> knocks out 18 raids in a day
-> why is there no content to do?
-> LA is boring

surreal gyro
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i spread out my raids throughout the week

surreal gyro
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i just do serkas on Wednesday

loud vortex
charred void
slow saddle
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the game will always be the same rinse n repeat

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until each new major content release or new stuff per month

loud vortex
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I luv Rowen

slow saddle
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other than that, you do horizontal or lifeskill or play another game

loud vortex
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Not for the rewards

charred void
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every 6 months

surreal gyro
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ye i need to life skill but im zzz

loud vortex
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just for killing ppl artistcaught

slow saddle
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i usually do horizontal stuff when i have no other games to play

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i left off at the music boxes

loud vortex
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I've never fought with any mage there tho

lilac frigate
loud vortex
lilac frigate
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about CN players

loud vortex
fresh flint
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zyra so scary wdf

loud vortex
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That's what ur supposed to do in Rowen mokokoAngry

fresh flint
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scawy omg

loud vortex
lilac frigate
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yeah, go ahead and feel good about killing people who have way less power than you and arent even prepared for pvp

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i bet you use a pvp build as well

loud vortex
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nah, I just use chaos build

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and I'm only there during siege

fresh flint
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does cn servers use rowen?

lilac frigate
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sure

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you sound like the "im basicly f2p" right now

loud vortex
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sometimes

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The player base used to be huge, and every horizontal content has their enjoyers

fresh flint
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Wow cn died already?

loud vortex
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buzz island, tooki island and Rowen

charred void
loud vortex
# fresh flint Wow cn died already?

Tons of ppl leaved after Thaemine, then another ton leaved after official RMT channel, and obviously there will be another ton leaving after act 5

surreal gyro
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CN fked up a lot with the monetization

tulip charm
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you only have to pay a few thousand $

surreal gyro
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i just checked CN site

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they are holding a live stream on the 15th they are getting Act4/Kaz

swift tree
tulip charm
loud vortex
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and tons of ppl in CN server are complaining that the raid is too difficult

sand marsh
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kazeros is quite a leap in difficulty compared to mordum

fresh flint
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which raid???

sand marsh
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this much is true

loud vortex
surreal gyro
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revives carried Kazeros prog

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xd

fresh flint
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?

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what the fuck is wrong with cn server

loud vortex
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That's how they got 24 revives in behemoth

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exclusive to CN server

charred void
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don't worry they remove half of kaz patterns so average 1hand cn player can clear the raid, just like they did with clown

tulip charm
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amoche they will do the raid with 7k cp, kazeros 8k cp

lilac frigate
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I mean... as far as I know is that CN players suffer from skill issue and dont want to git gud

tulip charm
sand marsh
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well our region is casual too

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but all the casual players left

tulip charm
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i am not even exaggerating

loud vortex
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And a huge number of CN players prefer p2w

fresh flint
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so they just suck at video games?

sand marsh
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not necessarily

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some of the best players ive ever met are chinese lol

lilac frigate
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they would rather pay

sand marsh
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the average gamer wants to come and relax, not spend hours in jails or days progging

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just how it is

loud vortex
surreal gyro
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i mean the game has been out in china for what 2 years now?

sand marsh
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NA players were smart enough to just leave instead of keeping to eat shit xdd

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china players are smarter than that

surreal gyro
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and they are in a super fast paced roadmap since launch

loud vortex
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usually ppl complain the mech of the raid, especially the team wipe mech

fresh flint
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not true

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we're still here

lilac frigate
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btw... if they do act 4 with 5k CP then is their amoche hp buffed?

loud vortex
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instead of the dps

sand marsh
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yes, very few are left

fresh flint
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fuck them 300k

loud vortex
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But they will probably get an inferno mode

fresh flint
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idc about no pussy ass hoes

loud vortex
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just like act 3

fresh flint
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?reset

tawny gateBOT
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naeast reset local time: <t:1773050400:t>
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tulip charm
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anyone remb this at mordum? i think cn players uninstalled during prog for this

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prob half lthe team died

loud vortex
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act 3 IM g3 has even more hp than tfm g1

charred void
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about to get blacklisted by 3 people

tulip charm
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half the team died for the first month

fresh flint
sand marsh
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they do, but NA realized the track record after clown and brel. back to back difficult raids

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then thaemine really broke people

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player numbers took a dive after that in NA

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and guess what, that happened in CN as well

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almost like those raids are just ass

sand marsh
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but smilegate wont admit that

fresh flint
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@distant swallow are you on the game?

sand marsh
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yeah

charred void
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bring back 6 gate raid Smadge

fresh flint
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i need a drex carry on my paladin

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everything is dead rn

sand marsh
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what they need to do is not make difficult raids be in the progression loop

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it was a mistake to get rid of hell mode or TFM permanently

slow saddle
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which they now do imo knowing they do things like nightmare mode

sand marsh
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keep difficult content on the side, not part of the progression loop

fresh flint
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@sand marsh quit typing and go dps spec, carry my pally in a drex

slow saddle
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everything gives progression but they maintain difficulty

sand marsh
slow saddle
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i never liked frontier but i know why it exists and that was 'fine'

fresh flint
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nvm theres a lobby

charred void
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the 1 week fomo title is still ass

slow saddle
sand marsh
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nightmare mode may not give more gold for cathedral but it gives more cores

slow saddle
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if you can do it, do it

if you cant or want something chill, u have that option

loud vortex
charred void
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legion raids had at least no fomo shit titles until thaemine tfm

swift tree
slow saddle
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the incentives arent that drastic but thats a separate issue imo that nightmare should give more

fresh flint
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[Doloris] :skullemoji: om

loud vortex
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It drops same amount of weapon mat in hm and nmm

slow saddle
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like i dont care for nightmare serka when cathedral is out and we'll be full ancient after a few months

sand marsh
# slow saddle it is but you arent forced into it

i dont think nightmare mode is a good decision because it's still piss fucking easy. if u gave me no gold for bussing rn i'd still do it because i find it fun to artificially increase difficulty by decreasing the people participating in the raid.

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they need to make actual-difficult content

tulip charm
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i found a interesting perspective

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everyone knows baker in lost ark

sand marsh
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not just make the boss hit harder and have a larger HP pool

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that doesn't work. never will

tulip charm
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cn playerbase is basicly 90% bakers

slow saddle
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when u get more gear, you want a larger punching bag

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you dont want to blow through a fight in 5 minutes

sand marsh
slow saddle
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but u also dont want mech heavy fights

charred void
slow saddle
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where your progression doesnt dictate anything about it

tulip charm
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i remb there was a baker returning to lost ark meme, but i can't find it anymore

loud vortex
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Who's baker?

sand marsh
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bring back hell mode and make the reward give a fancy banner/title. imagine if you did hell akkan and your banner background was some green-type shit

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i'd be all over that lol

tulip charm
slow saddle
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4 man raids are insanely good

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if they want 8 man raids to be mech heavy, idm

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pick one or the other

charred void
slow saddle
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but atm, i like what we have for 4 man and cathedral looks great

loud vortex
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Know literally nothing about celebrities in global server

lilac frigate
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i do hate the whole "we are getting rid of the zones that show what the boss is doing properly"

lilac frigate
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yeah

slow saddle
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me too

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no one can complain

sand marsh
# slow saddle 4 man raids are insanely good

most people don't realize that 4-man raids also make it to where bussing becomes less profitable.

in a 2c enviorment for a 4-man raid u only get 2 buyers. in a 2c enviorment with 6 buyers, it's 3 buyers. (and you can't 2c kazeros/armoche currently)

and 2c'ing a 4man raid is much more difficult than a 8man raid, at least the ones that exist currently.

tulip charm
# loud vortex Who's baker?

aside from all the other weird stuff his known for, his mainly known for buying the title "addicted to delight" vykas inferno deathless title and all the other hard mode titles
his also known for editing his char name and portrait into the screenshot of all the players at the end of the raid after a clear

slow saddle
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i dont wanna hear "how we going to get the gear for nightmare?!"

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you dont

tulip charm
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and whe he got caught "look at my face guys!!!!"

slow saddle
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you do HM

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and leave nightmare for the people who are up there

sand marsh
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i'd love if they brought back hell modes and gave a unique banner design for completion or something

slow saddle
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LA players are too mentally braindead that the second they see something at the highest tier, it immediately means "I MUST GET THERE"

sand marsh
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just stands out a lot more.

lilac frigate
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i mean... normal mode giving crafting materials is standart

charred void
slow saddle
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yup

sand marsh
lilac frigate
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the only thing I will compliment them is that they are giving it before we can use it

fresh flint
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uh wrong, i thank the gods every single day

sand marsh
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at least the ones that are competitive

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it's more apparent in lost ark because the playerbase is smaller

slow saddle
sand marsh
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only real difference imo

slow saddle
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people knew their place

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but that was a different era

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personalities change with this generation

sand marsh
slow saddle
loud vortex
slow saddle
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bdo was insanely competitive in that regard

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you chased pve to pvp

sand marsh
lilac frigate
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its always standart for normal modes to give the material.
the only difference is that they allow us to farm it before we can use it.

charred void
slow saddle
loud vortex
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pvp here is only for fun

sand marsh
# loud vortex LoA is fine tho

Lost Ark is actually a fine example at why PvP in a MMO will never be successful. It's completely equalized and it was still a failure.

slow saddle
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LA being a raid based game, i fail to understand how people want to chase the highest peak when they arent at the stage to do so

They can release any amount of raids, accolades, etc, but people get upset when they dont have it

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then get upset that some people get stuff that they cant

swift tree
slow saddle
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if they maintained it on LA and incentivised it, it wouldve been nice but

sand marsh
slow saddle
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since the game is so centralized around pve, they clearly didnt want to put resources towards pvp balance

swift tree
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not to mention Lost Ark has had 4 different versions of PvP

slow saddle
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RS also is giga for pvp and still booming

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idk, now i think about it, thats 2 MMOs with a giga pvp scene

fresh flint
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FUCK MAN SHUTTUP WITH THIS SHIT

tulip charm
sand marsh
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OSRS is a unique outlier because of how the game is inherently designed. It's by no means a modern MMO.

slow saddle
fresh flint
loud vortex
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I have no idea how to deal with summy's off-screen pheonix

charred void
swift tree
slow saddle
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you're telling a dps player only the words aria and solid as if i know what that is

sand marsh
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bro im doing this next time

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fucking brilliant

slow saddle
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point is, it can exist and games can do it well if they want to priorize it

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clearly LA doesnt so its sadge

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always will be a very niche game, and thats fine

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they tried other things and it failed

swift tree
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Korean audience only wants raids and slop

lilac frigate
slow saddle
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i tried to do that three champions thing when it came out in t4 btw, i was upset that i couldnt enter unless i had 3 different classes

distant flax
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...solid? mokokoStare

lilac frigate
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also wow pvp servers end up as pve servers anyway because people just only play one faction on it

tulip charm
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is it? i thought its solid in kr always

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its ags that does that all day everyday

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"guys look at our 1billion playerbase on launch!!!"

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20 years later

fresh flint
loud vortex
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The best pvp in lost ark is medeia island imo

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everything is just funny on it

lilac frigate
tulip charm
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dosn't matter if 70% of the playerbase is bots in the first 6month of the game, and we lost the remaining 80% of the real playerbase by being limpdicked for 2 years (did decent in 2025)
LOOK AT OUR 1BILLION PLAYER BASE ON LAUNCH!!! look at it!!!!! raaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

charred void
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other games don't require you to eat shit for 4 months until you are at the endgame and get gatekept from it

loud vortex
lilac frigate
lilac frigate
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I hate that I "have" to do it

swift tree
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If only Lost Ark's story was shittier and I wouldnt keep playing it

charred void
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why would i send 500 dollar into lost fart for 60% artisan energy when i can grab some ai slop for 5 dollars and game with the bois

loud vortex
tulip charm
slow saddle
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hear me out

swift tree
sand marsh
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nice all my alts are 4k cp except the 1720 (the 1730 isn't updating for some reason)

slow saddle
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you get a squad of 4 NA folks and 4 vairgrys

When the v* players DC and one of them is like 'wait for them' or restart raid, you all decline and clear without them

undone summitBOT
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@fresh flint gave @tulip charm +1 reputation.

sand marsh
fresh flint
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grok punch his penis in

charred void
lilac frigate
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dont expose me

slow saddle
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when the server merges happened for NAW, it made things more rough for SA players for how the routing happens for certain ISP and AGS servers down there

tulip charm
potent dagger
slow saddle
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so they DC a lot

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then complain (which is 100% justified)

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but i have to remind them, AGS doesnt care nor the devs

tulip charm
slow saddle
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their funding aint worth anything to keep things supported

loud vortex
swift tree
loud vortex
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10% of super good players, 90% of mokokos

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no average players

swift tree
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smilegate already doing changes for us shrug

worldly hawk
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so nothing changed then? WEIRD

loud vortex
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no mediocre players

swift tree
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just not coated in AGS paint

loud vortex
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only the best and worst

charred void
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imagine we get balance patch the day after and people get ultra mad about their 10% random nerf

loud vortex
lilac frigate
worldly hawk
lilac frigate
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im the 0,01% which are worse than mokokos

fresh flint
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100k gold for 1 hour

lilac frigate
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no

charred void
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what the hell is that

fresh flint
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yes so

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you should run from that

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its big and scary

lilac frigate
tulip charm
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can i charge you 10k gold to come "play along" at the this raid? then get you jailed and don't clear the raid, but keep your 10k gold?

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idk if anyone still remb this legendary story...

lilac frigate
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and then cry because you pressed it too early

worldly hawk
swift tree
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you see AU's tax reform changes?

lilac frigate
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altough im not sure about the 3 part

swift tree
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they're getting rid of Negative Gearing and Capital Gains discount

lilac frigate
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back when you had no choice because every lobby was just a bus

worldly hawk
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@sharp rock

potent dagger
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D*ablo

lilac frigate
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d4 bad

tulip charm
worldly hawk
lilac frigate
worldly hawk
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the changes with the most recent DLC were amazing

lilac frigate
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because they will take away your game at the next DLC

worldly hawk
fleet plover
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and the supply is the same

swift tree
loud vortex
worldly hawk
swift tree
charred void
lilac frigate
distant flax
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Didn't KR get some change to bound gold for their raids?

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Specifically for inflation

swift tree
worldly hawk
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LMAO

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it's microsoft

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dumb dumb

loud vortex
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Splitting a game into many dlc and sell u each dlc at the price of a game

lilac frigate
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sorry, its EA in spirit

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I forgot they arent all the same

swift tree
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EA is now financially dubious now that the Saudi dollars bolstering it may have dried up

fresh flint
charred void
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no more fifa 2027? Sadge

tulip charm
charred void
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the og gacha game

lilac frigate
swift tree
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I mean the Gulf just got turned into Naboo

lilac frigate
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and no, im not kidding

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that is what they do

worldly hawk
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it's nothing new

lilac frigate
worldly hawk
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no it's not

lilac frigate
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yes it is

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You can diablo 3 just fine without the new dlc

worldly hawk
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you had to buy reaper of souls to get access to lvl 70

lilac frigate
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no

worldly hawk
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yes

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google it

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please.

lilac frigate
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bro

worldly hawk
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before you embarass yourself more

lilac frigate
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I played d3

fresh flint
sand marsh
lilac frigate
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without reapor of souls

charred void
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7 poggers

swift tree
loud vortex
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Is it possible to transform an outfit?

worldly hawk
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so you're just ignorant then

loud vortex
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like from mage class to specialist class

lilac frigate
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gimme a minute

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my pc isnt the fastest

loud vortex
lilac frigate
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you dont have access to the newest class, true but its not crusader

distant flax
loud vortex
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I suddenly found that most of my outfits are on mage class

worldly hawk
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you can't play adventure mode, can't play online or do endgame content

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like

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you're just wrong

fresh flint
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Does anyone know the cathedral cp requirements?

loud vortex
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no enough new clothes for my arti

lilac frigate
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@worldly hawk

loud vortex
worldly hawk
swift tree
lilac frigate
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I never bought reapoer of souls

worldly hawk
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you do

lilac frigate
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I only ever bought the base game

potent dagger
worldly hawk
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what's this then

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dumb dumb

fresh flint
worldly hawk
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stoooopid Dentge

potent dagger
cursive ruin
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bling bang bang bling bang bang bling bang bang born

loud vortex
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make all purple outfit transformable, and each transform takes 5k gold or smth

lilac frigate
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@worldly hawk this is the only d3 purchase

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I can look up my history

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which is why im saying that you didnt have to buy it

charred void
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maybe they gave out the dlc or made it baseline when d4 came out or something

cursive ruin
distant flax
charred void
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dlc was 100% buyable on release of it

fresh flint
lilac frigate
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they made it baseline when it came out

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or mabye a bit later

loud vortex
lilac frigate
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but the main reason to buy it was the necromancer

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a new class

distant flax
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You looking for a specific piece or something?

worldly hawk
loud vortex
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and resell old skins

worldly hawk
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that's my entire point

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you just said "no you don't"

lilac frigate
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I said you dont need to buy it

worldly hawk
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like if you can't read what i'M saying just don't respond

sand marsh
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ark grid won't get too much better over the next couple weeks on my alts. next goal is to get high/mid accessories on all alts. which will be millions zzzz

lilac frigate
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when you have had the base game

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which is different for d4

worldly hawk
sand marsh
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never get lucky

fresh flint
sand marsh
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rather just buy them

loud vortex
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Making a new skin only takes 1% of the effort of making a raid

sand marsh
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cathedral is easier than serca by a mile

fresh flint
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Oh

swift tree
swift tree
# fresh flint Oh

"level 3" is 1750 but has lower dps requirements than Serca nightmare

charred void
sand marsh
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im just gonna buy them

fresh flint
swift tree
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right away

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they're just "levels" because it's not a raid

sand marsh
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i dont wanna look at accessories ever again until sidereal accessories come out

fresh flint