lost-ark-discussions

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[potent dagger]

[loud vortex]

[potent dagger]

Rich get richer

[runic hill]

you need like half ark grid for 2k if you have full 6s xd

[swift magnet]

[wise pasture]

[runic hill]

show engravings

Susge

[wise pasture]

maybe at 1700

he has them obviously

[potent dagger]

https://lostark.bible/character/CE/Kririsuna

[wise pasture]

but it is not like that makes him special

[potent dagger]

Dont check logs its bad

[runic hill]

too late

now i know why u like CP

[wise pasture]

looks like my db logs

[potent dagger]

I’m support main i play db for fun

[potent dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-car-cool-drift-drive-gif-20909382

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[runic hill]

cant change my mind ppl should play with ppl who the same DPS as they do (+/-20%)

[potent dagger]

Then ask SG to show performance in game

[runic hill]

i wish i could

[wise pasture]

I would be fine with it, would speed up my runs significantly in general

[potent dagger]

Wont stop you from getting gatekeept

[loud vortex]

I'm fine with downward compatible

[potent dagger]

[runic hill]

def will xd

[wise pasture]

imagine

I wish

[loud vortex]

like taking my main to an Aegir lobby full of mokokos

[runic hill]

did they like remove clown cards from the loot table?

almost done another week no card

[potent dagger]

I wanted bomba counter for mord

[loud vortex]

dunno

[wary timber]

its only like 3% to drop so

[loud vortex]

nm has a little higher droprate than solo iirc

and it's faster than solo

[runic hill]

ye if i could enter NM alone i would xd

[wise pasture]

should be 5% I believe

for the specific ones

[loud vortex]

We can farm it together in NM

skip that mario shit

[runic hill]

i mean all my chars onetap the boss without a sup its only like 2b

[wise pasture]

getting the lobby is the problem

[loud vortex]

ye

hard to find ppl

[uncut dirge]

wtf is this class

302m udps with 1966 combat power

[runic hill]

HM or FA?

[uncut dirge]

front attack

[runic hill]

ye its pretty good

[wise pasture]

ye, they do pretty well at lower lvls

[runic hill]

from my duo run

same CP as yours

[uncut dirge]

woah

[runic hill]

but drex is kinda RNG if you get a lot of counters DPS skyrockets

she did 363/379 last week in kaz so ye class is really nice

[uncut dirge]

what about armoche?

[runic hill]

368 but omega scuffed party and bad sup i assume she could go around 420-450 there

[uncut dirge]

dps, right? not udps?

[runic hill]

DPS ye

Kaz uDPS was 204 and 220 armoche 230

Kaz was def not bad armoche still lotsa room to get a better run but u know how it is

with runs this fast tiny things can be such a big dif already

[uncut dirge]

so you're one of the guys above me huh

[runic hill]

those 3 gates were 1x 100 and 2x 99 so probably

[uncut dirge]

(you're #2 and #3 on armoche at <2k, i'm #4)

I only got close to 2k via getting the super charge build going with ark grid

Used a lot of the selectors I had for this, seemed more useful than just increasing blues with selectors on some other chars

[runic hill]

i got a card from clown but a purple one thx game

[runic hill]

i used the 200 event pity currency we got since its a new char

soon i'll get my 3rd core hopefully

[swift tree]

BRAWLER

oofs caps

[slow saddle]

Sheesh

[runic hill]

i give in, LA you won -2 selectors

[slow saddle]

My alts are stacking better paradise stuff than main for now but definitely will rebound later

[runic hill]

i just checked my waterset... armen died harder in my cards than in the fkn story

[slow saddle]

Rough times

[runic hill]

24 it is if next raid is water

[slow saddle]

You aren’t buying mari’s cards I assume either

[runic hill]

nah but its legit just 3 cards total that fucked me over, they ate nearly all my selectors

not been getting armens kadans (and T3 clowns)

i think i opened like 9 or 10 selectors just for kadan

if we get 1 more raid without water set it should be fine tho

[swift tree]

class achievements go brrr

[swift magnet]

[slow saddle]

wtf

Out here crushing planets

We need some of those planets you know

[runic hill]

u can fetch me that silver, i lost almost 50m this week for a single level 10 reroll

[swift tree]

too late

https://tenor.com/view/stellaris-gif-6752222211686336377

[swift magnet]

[slow saddle]

Damn y’all have level 10 gems to even reroll?

[runic hill]

i have a single dmg 10 and i use it on 4 dif classes

[slow saddle]

That’s an insane silver sink that’s self inflicted

[swift magnet]

have exactly 1 and my valky wont give it away xD

[runic hill]

self inflicted by not knowing how important gems will be when i decided to play 6 dif classes

but im fine on silver

on average week i go even

this week just hits hard cause resting + unlucky

[slow saddle]

I usually am even or a net positive but then it gets smashed down in batches from min-maxing astrogems

[runic hill]

ye my minmaxing will be just boss dmg and fk the single 10 cost

and even more fk 8 9 2x10

there is no way we will get a raid with a DPS check so impossible that reasonable minmaxing (just get 4 or 5 additional or boss whatever u get) wont be enough before this system gets nerfed like elixirs

[slow saddle]

Yeah always gonna be that way

But bare minimums ain’t it for me, sounds boring

[runic hill]

we are just so overjuiced at this point that we skip mechs even on release if bosses have a maximum phasing speed

[nova summit]

dps checks outside of tfm a joke no?

[slow saddle]

Always gonna be that way

Every new raid only needs a player to go so far in the previously released subsystem

[runic hill]

tbf kazeros even had a weak DPS check on TFM, it's just that 8 ppl staying alive for 30 min is not a given if you are on min DPS

[burnt tree]

yawns

[nova summit]

how much is dps check per dps

or udps per player or whatever

[runic hill]

if you consider ally skills on TFM its between 300 and 330 for all segments

[nova summit]

wait thats not much

my 2kcp char does like 230m and im bad

[runic hill]

not quite sure what the average for 2-2+3 is if you use full offense armen but probably like 320?

[nova summit]

but i guess tfm hard cuz you insta die

[runic hill]

ye the issue is more that if you have to greed to do that dmg its very unlikely that 8 ppl survive for 30 min

[nova summit]

dont greed iguess

[runic hill]

but its totally possible to do that on 2.5k CP if you are confident on greeding everything even if very unlikely that 8 ppl can do that without mistake

[slow saddle]

Except no one was doing that at the time

[burnt tree]

these are so useless mannn

[slow saddle]

Maybe now since TFM has been out for so long and if people actually bringing people with that low CP

Kinda moot

People aren’t stepping into TFM with 2.5k cp

[runic hill]

ye i wanted to do a 2.5k CP TFM but i never found more than 2 others who wanted to try

[slow saddle]

Most people wouldn’t bother wasting time

Except maybe to carry a friend

For title or whatever

[runic hill]

tbh i had to greed very hard week 1 in HM since i did it on 2.4k and maybe i wanted to also be top DPS to annoy the doubters xd

[slow saddle]

Weird goals

Underdog mentality

[burnt tree]

do i use my 3 selectors to get lvl 5 or nah

[runic hill]

w ragebait mentality

[slow saddle]

I could also have gotten to school by walking but I decided to take the bus

[runic hill]

running when the bus is driving by but still being first at school to make the others rage

thats W

[slow saddle]

Feels like a weird group of folks you’re chatting with that even cares for that stuff

Weird ass ragebaiting

[runic hill]

tbh i got flamed in 9/10 pug lobbies for my CP

had to show them

saw one of them who called me "zDPS censored rat" recently he didnt even get CC

[slow saddle]

[runic hill]

and in that lobby he was doing 60m less than me on average every pull

might be petty but had to let him know

[nova summit]

i wish tfm isnt getting removed

[slow saddle]

Damn what a gigachamp

So cool

[nova summit]

no time for me to get 1740 before tfm end

[runic hill]

are you not 1730 yet?

[nova summit]

1713

lol

[runic hill]

rip

[viscid sand]

time to focus on other things

[nova summit]

drugs or smth

😭

[runic hill]

i'd always prefer to get TFM as scaled content but that will stay a dream

[viscid sand]

you do you, boo

[slow saddle]

Usually what hell content is for

[nova summit]

deleting hell is bitch move

imo

[slow saddle]

There has to be at least one content available where gear chasing becomes applicable

[runic hill]

i just dont feel TFM when it phases faster than week 1 HM feels so bad

rotating extreme mode i guess

[cyan fog]

we're literally months in, it cant keep the same difficulty level

[nova summit]

wanted my hell vykas title

[slow saddle]

Yup

[slow saddle]

They’re bringing hell back at some point

[runic hill]

catastrophe mode from china would be something for main chasers

[slow saddle]

It clearly wasn’t that popular compared to the grand scheme of the game, so it’s a bit understandable

Can’t even make time for hell with actually playing LA normally

[runic hill]

i think main reason hell mode was unpopular was that most builds didnt even work anymore as well as kinda large battle item cost if you grind it

[slow saddle]

Would be nice but nightmare suffices for now at least for raid releases

[slow saddle]

Those too, but a bit minor

It’s obvious they’d factor all the reasons why folks aren’t doing hell

With the approach of looking at the game holistically

The typical player is doing dailies and weekly raiding for actual rewards

[runic hill]

i think if they kept updating hell to be scaled to current builds it would have seen much more play

[cyan fog]

when hell was a kind-of relevant thing we were a lot more down bad with some classes

[viscid sand]

wouldnt say it's the main reason. ppl are just moths to a flame for "actual" rewards.

[cyan fog]

this

[runic hill]

nobody likes to play a nerfed main with a build thats only semifunctional

[slow saddle]

That’s me with TTH forever until they reworked it and it became meta in hell

By then, lost interest and IRL priorities

The actual amount of time to have a useable class in hell to when it got taken down, was short

[surreal gyro]

didnt they say they weill rework hell mode and then bring it back?

[slow saddle]

Ya

They already showed things like new titles and so on

[runic hill]

i hope kazeros extreme will actually be extreme and not like thaemine

[slow saddle]

Think even kayangal was on there

[surreal gyro]

yeah so i think we should just wait, better have the system improved than keeping it as is

[slow saddle]

Yup

[surreal gyro]

they said the same for pvp

and they also said we will have a large map expansion in the summer

doubt these will come out anytime soon anyway

xd

[cyan fog]

ivory tower hell when

[slow saddle]

Just making a point that this whole idea behind equalized content isn’t really that popular in an MMO that’s based around progression

If it gave actual rewards, then maybe

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[surreal gyro]

i think it depends on which progression stage the equalized gear takes effect

[runic hill]

equalized in numbers is fine, ruining builds is not, but thats just my take

[surreal gyro]

and they also keep adding progression systems that effect class gameplay so

its very hard to balance

[slow saddle]

Yup

[runic hill]

if your char played exactly as it does now but only does 400m DPS (for the example for kazeros TFM) it still would be fine

[surreal gyro]

yehh

[slow saddle]

Which again, no one is gonna play content if they aren’t enjoying their fundamentals of the class

[surreal gyro]

yeah idk SG keeps doing this mistake they make something new, but they have to go back and fix a ton of things to make it work

[viscid sand]

tfw i couldnt really play evo scouter in hell because i needed one more spell to cycle my meter 😔

[surreal gyro]

they keep doing this all the time

[slow saddle]

And I’m sure by now, most people don’t want to go back to their baseline class without ark grid for example

[surreal gyro]

yup exactly

[slow saddle]

For some, not much changes but there’s a handful where things have already changed

[burnt tree]

world boss ticket

[runic hill]

only class i'd enjoy that on would be sorc i guess

cause i really liked reflux before ark grid but the base build didnt get support

[surreal gyro]

i aint going back to no triple doomdsday

ah reflux

[burnt tree]

[runic hill]

i swapped to ignite because triple DD feels so good and i dislike reflux ark grid

[surreal gyro]

yeah

ark grid ignite is so good now

a bit annoying in homework raids if you dont have your meter up on time

[runic hill]

i just wish there was an ark grid that supported DD as the only cast with full instants outside of that

[cyan fog]

lucksack

[burnt tree]

wdym, i deserved this

[runic hill]

but im happy with igniter now so no need to overly complain

[cyan fog]

deserved but definitely not needed

i didnt see a single relic this week on 8 chars tbh

2 ancients tho

[runic hill]

also igniter is basically a 1 gem class cant complain as someone who cant afford gems about that either

[cyan fog]

Someone dropped 40m on 10s yday in general

Gray name too

[burnt tree]

undeserved

[runic hill]

someone surely is happy that AGS rarely bans RMTers

[surreal gyro]

with the state of AGS right now

the last of my concerns is them banning RMT

after the latest roadmap video its very clear

[runic hill]

that thing is long gone, if they ban all RMTers now we have 500 players LUL

[surreal gyro]

we need SG to take the game ASAP

[cyan fog]

We need matt to get some sleep

Poor fella

[surreal gyro]

this last roadmap video was so weird

they basically said nothing

[slow saddle]

Hopefully SG gets to smiting

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-ban-syntheticllama-gif-21044291

[surreal gyro]

they also deleted the mention for server merges in May

i think they wont go through with this

they will leave it as is

[slow saddle]

Might be delayed or basically on SG’s plate

[runic hill]

i would be happy if they didnt merge, but i also think they will still merge as may is that empty

[cyan fog]

Merge elpon get me out

[surreal gyro]

May is next month this should have been announced already

i just think they will ignore it

[slow saddle]

I want a new guild so I wanted a merge lmao

[surreal gyro]

its just sad because i think more players will quit now

[runic hill]

tbf the only reasonable needed merge in EU is ortuus and that could just go into arcturus i guess

[potent dagger]

Elpoop

[cyan fog]

If they haven't decided what's going where there would be no real point in mentioning merges

[runic hill]

they probably fired the guy responsible for server merges and now they dont know what to do

[cyan fog]

There's no negative effect either really so

Just merge them all

[surreal gyro]

i just dont think they have the staff to do the merge

xd

[cyan fog]

A 10k pop server surely can't be hard to run kekw

Maybe they don't want the list to be too small cus then people will doom even more

[runic hill]

considering ppl have random high ping and random dcs already id focus on that first xd

[cyan fog]

Never had any of that kekw

[swift tree]

At this point if they merge Luterra on NAE it might just collapse

[runic hill]

not sure how it is on other regions but every few raids it hits someone with a ping spike or dc and sometimes its also multiple ppl

[surreal gyro]

never Dced as well , but ive seen a lot of people getting random DCs when i pug

[swift tree]

had 2 pug in my act 4... they had to log back in from desktop

[surreal gyro]

ye hahah

[nova summit]

the problem is eac

[slow saddle]

It’s mostly SA players and west coast that has those issues here for us on NAE

[runic hill]

if it was always only 1 person it'd be harder to defend the servers/AGS on that but since it also sometimes happens to 2 or 3 ppl at the exact same time its hard to believe that it isnt related to the game or servers specifically

[nova summit]

if you “dc” for just a milisecond it dcs you with eac error

[runic hill]

ye EAC being ass is a well known issue for many games

[nova summit]

when i had bad isp that wasnt even noticable in csgo/valorant/anything

[swift tree]

EAC is an issue for the client just randomly disconnecting.
-there are also stability issues for servers, specifically the parts that host major hub cities as they like to just brick now and again

[runic hill]

but even then it shouldnt hit 2 or 3 players at the same time and that has happened before (even if rare)

[nova summit]

my la dcd every 15 min lol

[slow saddle]

Thought the same too until you also realize how much people are from the same areas or use the same ISP

[swift tree]

It's happened on both Balthorr and Luterra on NAE

[swift magnet]

interesting what ppl buy

[nova summit]

its not random

depends on isp kinda

[runic hill]

ye but in my personal case i havent DCd in any game outside of LA aside from full outages (which happened like 3 times total since i moved here 4 years ago)

[nova summit]

somewhere i dc every 5min somewhere (my current isp at home) i dont dc

[slow saddle]

Definitely has to do with something related to the servers and the hops/connection points along the way for various ISP and areas

[nova summit]

same man

eac is so bad in other games itd be just like 1% packet loss but eac dcs you

xd

[runic hill]

EAC also causes a lot of FPS issues

[swift tree]

It's an and/or/both kind of situation.
If your ISP isn't set to an aggressive DHCP your client won't try to re-establish if your outgoing IP changes
(and EAC + UE3 isn't good with that kind of IP fuckery).

It also can just drop connection at some points which was common with multiplayer dedicated servers from that era of gaming.

The first issue also happens with ESO fwiw

[slow saddle]

LA also never built in any type of proper reconnection solution in place

[nova summit]

yeah thats what im saying

[runic hill]

also the fact that DCd just means "no loot entry gone" is stupid af only cause of infinite akkan G3 NM bus

that thing is long gone but the issue remains

[nova summit]

xddd

[swift tree]

That is the bigger issue. Bad management making a common bug worse

[nova summit]

doing that cuz ppl infinitebus is crazy

wasnt even a big issue

[runic hill]

instead they could have just given loot to infinite bussers and count it as cleared for them

[swift magnet]

this one is smt lmao

[swift tree]

Smilegate abhors anyone taking advantage so everyone gets collective punishment as a result

[runic hill]

like there was a better solution right there that also fixes last second DC issues

[swift tree]

Funny as collective punishment is a war crime (or consumer protection violation) in any other context

[runic hill]

nah rather fk the entire community over tahts better

[wind dagger]

[potent dagger]

Sg/aga could’ve just perma banned bussing

[nova summit]

still dont ban rmt

really

[cyan fog]

I mean

[potent dagger]

But then henry self banned

[nova summit]

[cyan fog]

The fact that if one guy disconnects your entire raid is fucked

[swift tree]

too real

[nova summit]

wdym self banned

[cyan fog]

Is disgusting behaviour

[surreal gyro]

to ban stuff like that they need to change the whole games design including how the marketplace works

how can u ban bussing when people can still do it on discord for example

ull have to change player trading etc

[potent dagger]

People found Henry as a driver in a bus

[nova summit]

xd

[potent dagger]

Was echidna or so?

[nova summit]

bussing isnt bannable

[cyan fog]

Bussing is in no way anywhere near the top of this games issues

[runic hill]

bussing also wouldnt be as big if there was a total loot pool for gold and it would be distributed between all players and allow entry (without scaling the raid) at any size

[potent dagger]

Perma bann everyone who rmt once or bussed once

[runic hill]

with how much time SG spends at making sure ppl barely have enough stuff to progress they surely could figure out how to balance that as well

[surreal gyro]

tbh all new raids are super easy

people who want to buss will buss

u cant do anything about it

[nova summit]

bussing doesnt get banned

wdy mean

only advertising bannable no?

[potent dagger]

They also dont bann rmt

[surreal gyro]

yeah only advertisement is bannable

[potent dagger]

[wind dagger]

It's surprising how Korean game companies stick to the same principle they started with without changing anything no matter what happens (I can be very wrong about this)

[potent dagger]

Look Saturn

-10m gold

Positiv next day

[runic hill]

saturn even RMTd on stream and didnt get banned for it

[wind dagger]

I remember the Baker special sound

[surreal gyro]

Because to change they will have to restrict aspects of the game. And in general the community is against that. a lot of "rice eaters" make profit off how the game is currently designed

[sand marsh]

You underestimate people. Bussing is just as big, if not bigger in wow

[nova summit]

is it

hmm

[sand marsh]

Yep

[cyan fog]

It is

[potent dagger]

That one website sound?

[cyan fog]

Although it's taken a massive hit since the Iran trouble started

[sand marsh]

Lol

[wind dagger]

[nova summit]

tbh bussing in some game can be good idea to make money lol

my friend was doing that at release

[potent dagger]

[nova summit]

better pay than working in his country he said

[runic hill]

it always depends on the value you get out vs the hassle it is, i did 6 ppl dungeons as 2 a ton in aion just to hyperfarm, never looking for ppl even if it was slightly lower value and just speedrun farming duo was so good

[sand marsh]

The core structure of wow isnt even raiding, well not as much, and people still pay for it

Some people wanna play idle

And pay for it

Doesn't matter what you do

[cyan fog]

When they kidnapped the Venezuelan president the runescape economy crashed

[nova summit]

ts crazy

[loud vortex]

I saw bots in raid today

crazy

[cyan fog]

It just comes down to time is money

[sand marsh]

No what you saw were very bad players

Or someone who bought an account

Or a multiboxer

[cyan fog]

If I have money and cba time why not buy boost for clout

[runic hill]

a lot of ppl straightup sold their accs

i saw ppl who were far worse than someone buying a title

[cyan fog]

Some of these idle mobile games and shit literally just target rich peoples kids

[ionic geyser]

What happened to him? Wanted to check if he is playing fatal but it seems he quit or got banned

[runic hill]

like literal endgame ppl with titles doing 30-30-10 sup uptimes (as sup main)

[cyan fog]

U want full team pay 2m

[sand marsh]

And its so effective its disgusting

[slow saddle]

It’s pretty wild

[runic hill]

i dont care about him so no idea i just know a few things i saw and thats enough for me to not bother

[sand marsh]

Finna Kickstart my own idle mobile game

Become rich and spend it all in Lost ark W

[slow saddle]

Considering how superficial quite a few societies have become, it’s an easy target

Put anything in place to chase power or be above others or have what others don’t have

[loud vortex]

He kept failing hm Aegir mech

[sand marsh]

People need instant dopamine

[slow saddle]

Ezmoney

[sand marsh]

It's kinda why raiding is not as popular anymore

[loud vortex]

with act 4 title

dam

[sand marsh]

The dopamine takes forever to kick in

[cyan fog]

Nah there was legit a bot in my echidna lobby 2 months ago

[slow saddle]

No more long grinding and achieving things over time, it’s all instant gratification

[sand marsh]

After hours or even days of progging does it kick in

[cyan fog]

Like 100% b o t

[sand marsh]

Yeah that's the gaming society today

[runic hill]

tbh i get my instant dopamine from parsing a run im happy with performance wise

[sand marsh]

Unfortunate

[swift tree]

Just make the same shitty merge/match 3 puzzle game with 6 different skins an sell ads/microtransactions

[runic hill]

i dont see what ppl get from RMTing their 1 button dmg number, a lot of ppl have the money to RMT, not a lot of ppl have the hands (and brain) to play well

[cyan fog]

Don't need to play well if I have r1 title

[slow saddle]

Pretty much

[cyan fog]

Don't need to play at all, just flex on brokies

[sand marsh]

No. Make it really good combat, almost perfect game but add shitty rng slop systems to frustrate players and cash big. Should remind you of a certain game

[slow saddle]

But it also goes in the opposite direction too

Too many brokies pride themselves on being good so they hold anyone with gear at the highest standards

Like you’re not expected to be the #1 player

[runic hill]

50 is the average for a reason

[swift tree]

KH Union X?

[burnt tree]

i could rmt but i dont see the point. fashion is endgame after all

[slow saddle]

Or have this “but if I had that gear or account” mentality

[sand marsh]

Lost ark

[swift tree]

oh oh! no, Diablo Immortal

[runic hill]

GW2 mentality

[slow saddle]

Fashion is always the true endgame

[burnt tree]

i mean the game went rfom an MMO to some monster hunter lobby afk simulator

[slow saddle]

That’s how bdo and RS ended up for me

[burnt tree]

might as well look good while im stuck in PF

[surreal gyro]

i mean

blade and soul was the same

[tulip charm]

you get to become 1755 on the first week of the new raid, then burnout and quit after 2 weeks, since you rmted everything and no goals left, time to quit

[surreal gyro]

TERA was the same

[sand marsh]

Same for wow. Naked drainei and blood elves ERP in goldshire

Don't gotta swipe for that

[surreal gyro]

all PvE raid focused MMOs are the same lobby simulators

[burnt tree]

yeah

so lame

[sand marsh]

That are KR yeah

[loud vortex]

gatekeeping simulator

[slow saddle]

I personally just like the RP aspects that exist outside of progression and raiding, but obv still want things to do

Idm wasting time on character customization, outfits, screenshots, SH stuff

[burnt tree]

yeah

[slow saddle]

Or questing to have more of that RP vibe

[loud vortex]

I just want more mokoko seeds

[slow saddle]

I play for the adventure

[cyan fog]

Wow is a lobby simulator too

[runic hill]

i enjoy that stuff too if vertical progression isnt pain

[burnt tree]

more mokoko seeds at june[only 6 but better than 0]

[cyan fog]

Pugging m+ is the devil

[sand marsh]

Not on the same scale unless your playing at the very, very high end.

It's bigger pop soo

[slow saddle]

I separate progression out, I can play a game for either or both

[sand marsh]

Outside of this expansion, yeah pugging m+ is a nightmare

[cyan fog]

10s last week and this week are not high end

[sand marsh]

But midnight made it soo much easier lmao

[cyan fog]

I'm still waiting 20 mins to get accepted

[burnt tree]

Some ppl be like " i got nothing to do wahh" and when u ask them how much exploration they got "5k in qinghe"

[slow saddle]

LMFAO FACTS

[loud vortex]

Got gatekept yesterday in nm kaz

[sand marsh]

20mins for a +10 wtf

[loud vortex]

[runic hill]

thats why i personally like progression in timeframes, you get everything except minmaxing done fast (lets say half the time until next release) then u can have fun and only minmax as much as you want

[sand marsh]

Are u playing evoker healer or some shit. Nothing no one ever wants

Never waited that long personally

[cyan fog]

I play warlock something everyone hates

🫡

[burnt tree]

meanwhile im here like

[slow saddle]

That’s entirely why I like WWM, it has flexible to chase progression or adventuring (or any other accolade like PvP or some other leaderboard)

[cyan fog]

It's good rn too idk

Just people being people

[sand marsh]

It's extremely good lol

[cyan fog]

Doesn't always happen for sure

[burnt tree]

yeah and none of them drain your time

[sand marsh]

Maybe its coz I play healer but never had to wait that long

[burnt tree]

like ok the new heroes realm u can get jailed

[cyan fog]

Dps life is shambles

[burnt tree]

but its still ez to clear

[slow saddle]

Depends on how much time is defined as

Because I’m used to traditional MMOs

[sand marsh]

If your io is 3k+ it should be fine though...

[surreal gyro]

WWM is still not an MMORPG though

:/

[sand marsh]

I'd understand if your trying to slam +15 or more

[burnt tree]

i just dont like being dragged into some petty damage competition

[sand marsh]

People get very picky

[slow saddle]

You spend years working on things vs LA where it’s a few months before content is stale

[burnt tree]

its not no

only some weirdos go around saying its an MMO

[surreal gyro]

Yes but u need a certain mentality for that, a lot of people dont like to play the waiting game

[slow saddle]

Not anymore is what I’m saying

The MMORPG genre is dead and only old vets stick with old titles at this point

[surreal gyro]

i dont think it's "Dead"

[sand marsh]

There's no flavor with raids so people get bored very quickly in LA. It's to be expected

Doing kaz for the 500th time does something special to your brain

[slow saddle]

Bunch of zoomers want progression to finish after 1 month so they can move onto idk what next

[runic hill]

i really enjoyed progression in aion before 6.x it was very easy to get reasonable gear rather fast and you only needed a lot of effort to minmax which is fine

[surreal gyro]

it's just that only Asian developers make MMORPGS currently and the west hates their philosophy

[runic hill]

^this

[cyan fog]

It's also cus ur doing the raid atleast 6x per week

[slow saddle]

All I know is when things get boring again, I’m retiring back to RuneScape

[runic hill]

i think if LA focused on what its best at (class and raid design) it would do very well in the west

[cyan fog]

No honey I don't want to do mordum anymore

[sand marsh]

Yeah the system is flawed on a foundational level.

[cyan fog]

Please don't make me

[burnt tree]

Mordumb has overstayed its welcome more than any other raid, the worse raid of the week

[sand marsh]

Anyone can see that from a mile away

[burnt tree]

we play the most rewarding version of the game and we play more than the regions who earn less

[surreal gyro]

a lot of things went wrong with Lost Ark in the West, especially the overhyped launch, the inexperience of AGS and the Korean streamers (imo)

[slow saddle]

Let me enjoy my main and diversify all my raiding content

[cyan fog]

Hype on launch was well deserved

[slow saddle]

I want to play alts out of fun, not out of progression

[runic hill]

i personally enjoy doing the same raid with different classes a lot because every class has different issues to overcome in the same raid which is kinda fun to learn

[surreal gyro]

It backfired

[sand marsh]

If raids were on a weekly rotation it would be way more fun

But that destroys smilegates profit motive

[cyan fog]

Just people thought for some reason bcus it's AGS it will be EU mindset friendly

[surreal gyro]

because all these players made an initial impression and now theyre gone, u cant get them back

[runic hill]

LA really lacks "main" content and thats a thing china solved pretty well

[slow saddle]

I’d love this

[cyan fog]

Forgetting it's a Korean p2w mmo

[slow saddle]

I been saying how I’d love a rotating extreme raid or strike raid on the schedule

Either as a bonus raid or a replacement to an existing one of your choice

[sand marsh]

It's 2026 the technology for that isnt out in Korea yet

Not until 2035

[slow saddle]

Shit u right

[runic hill]

ye rotating extreme modes is something i have been hearing everywhere for a long time and i share that

[burnt tree]

its ok AION 2 soon i can just go back to pvping my soul out

[cyan fog]

Don't even need extreme

[surreal gyro]

Yes im also going to play Aion2

[slow saddle]

We just got the tech remind us when certain items expire in game

[cyan fog]

Just let me replace my worst gold raid with a rotating x y z

[slow saddle]

Yeah, can be just anything at this point

[cyan fog]

I'd love to go clown again

[burnt tree]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bayer04-leverkusen-b04-bayer-04-p63IPHgPIF0tG7bcQu

[runic hill]

Aion2 surely will be adjusted properly for the west to not be a disaster

[slow saddle]

See I wouldn’t even mind if it was any other pve style content too, it doesn’t ‘need’ to be a raid either

[surreal gyro]

it wont

[burnt tree]

it wont be, its NCsoft

[surreal gyro]

but LoA is dead in the west

we are on a ticking timebomb right now

[sand marsh]

Imagine if they put mythic+ dungeons into lost ark. Abyssal dungeon+

[burnt tree]

KR still malding they nerfed the whales

[sand marsh]

That would be so sick lol

[burnt tree]

Abyssal* mf forgot the terms of loa

[cyan fog]

It's true, just need a bit more variety in my weekly chores

[burnt tree]

this traitor on god

[sand marsh]

Auto correct

[slow saddle]

LOL

[loud vortex]

1740 Kayangel?

That makes sense tho

[burnt tree]

we get 1730 Sonavel be happy

[sand marsh]

Just an infinite scaling abysmal dungeon with higher rewards the higher you push

[cyan fog]

1730 argeos

[slow saddle]

Every game has potential, I just see it everywhere how either things don’t happen or it does happen but gets poorly implemented

[cyan fog]

[burnt tree]

1730 slovakia is worse

[surreal gyro]

I dont blame just SG for lost ark's situation , its the KR playerbase as well

[slow saddle]

I leave it up to Koreans to fuck something up on release then “rework” it later

[loud vortex]

No scorp

[surreal gyro]

they tried multiple times to change or add different stuff

[cyan fog]

Fucking forgot about sko

[surreal gyro]

KR didnt like them

[cyan fog]

Kill me

[loud vortex]

everyone hates scorp

[burnt tree]

[runic hill]

most progression related games get turned into basically cashgrabs with gameplay instead of building a healthy game that makes a ton of money from skins

[slow saddle]

Ngl, it’s hard to please a player base

[loud vortex]

[burnt tree]

scorp was changed the least from the guardian changes, its still ah

[surreal gyro]

yes thats why SG is playing it safe

i dont blame them

[sand marsh]

They will nerf ark grid a year later then release a newer system that's good like karma. Then another system that's really bad, purposely. Then fix it a year later again

Good strat

[loud vortex]

I would rather do argos before 1700

[burnt tree]

lmfao

[slow saddle]

Some folks would want both tho, there can’t be a bias in just one direction

[loud vortex]

[burnt tree]

lost ark still cant find a middle ground either

[slow saddle]

I’m not tryna sit here to compete with jobless people who can grind on a game for 10+ hours a day

[surreal gyro]

They need to make the game seasonal

Add a season with a progression system

[burnt tree]

even bns added that lmao

[surreal gyro]

Theres no other way

[slow saddle]

You need a balance of many things to please multiple different audiences

[sand marsh]

I do understand that but back in the good days, you were rewarded for time spent. Not how large your credit limit is

[burnt tree]

even when they try to do something new, ppl just moan for more raids so they backtrack

[slow saddle]

Oh for sure

[sand marsh]

Times have changed. For better or for worse

[cyan fog]

They don't make the game for us tho

As long as Korea is fine brainrotting and continuing to rice farm till pension the design philosophy of stuff that comes out of there will never change

[runic hill]

and you shouldnt have to, with healthy game i meant that, the fact that you dont have to either spend money or your entire free time to keep up would be said health

[loud vortex]

Has someone saw that RMT lobby title recently in NA?

[slow saddle]

Issue is times have changed

[burnt tree]

the game has no variety, even if the raids are different

[runic hill]

you still have to do stuff to get your gear just not unreasonable amount

[surreal gyro]

To be honest guys, the game is miles better in KR because it has the population to be played both seasonally and it's fun in all progression brackets because u have players everywhere

[loud vortex]

''buying endgame account for 8k bucks'' or something

[surreal gyro]

these issues are worse here because u just dont have the players

[loud vortex]

[surreal gyro]

to play the game at your own pace

[slow saddle]

I still find what we have reasonable for La

[runic hill]

also these pityless giga RNG sinks dont work well with the west (and 6 char mentality which is far more common here than KR)

[slow saddle]

Nothing is out of reach nor required to have

[cyan fog]

It's in euc too

[burnt tree]

minus the censorships i find our version better than KRs but we also are stuck being ignored by SG

[slow saddle]

Everyone gets to engage with current systems and progress fairly normally

[surreal gyro]

our vertsion is better structure wise

but way worse in terms of population

[cyan fog]

Lost ark can for sure already be played as a seasonal game btw

[surreal gyro]

and thats what's hurting the game now

[burnt tree]

yeap

[pallid tundra]

How hard is Serka gonna be? Can I just easily pug Nightmare mode?

[surreal gyro]

i dont think the game overall is in a bad state, its been way better than what it was 2 years ago

[slow saddle]

Ya

[cyan fog]

U just need to have shit already set up

Otherwise cya

[swift tree]

Didn't help our version was flagshipped by some of the most annoying sweatlord/whales of Korea that even quit their version because the game stopped giving them special treatment

[cyan fog]

Enjoy farming normal armoche for the next 3 months

[burnt tree]

considering the changes to mats and 2 endgame raids/year u can play it seasonally now kinda

the next abyssal dungeon is a filler anyway

[surreal gyro]

thats a trap

cause we dont know the next raid

if u need full ancient cores

etc

xd

[cyan fog]

Imagine

[sand marsh]

Yeah of course. Who wants to purposefully eat shit. A new player in this game is actually tragic. Your better off learning the infinite knowledge gap of wow or some other game

[burnt tree]

i dont think they will balance anything around ANCIENT cores

least not before the system is nerfed

[slow saddle]

Yeah doubt it as well

[burnt tree]

serca nm doesnt even need ark grid

[cyan fog]

It's not even that hard to learn now cus they gutted most classes

[swift tree]

The change for our version for Serca is also SO MUCH LESS PUNISHING than it would otherwise be for normal moders

[slow saddle]

Prob a year out before something like that but it’s also a system where ancients vs relics aren’t going to be game changing

[burnt tree]

they wont jump to the next shadow raid expecting u to have ancient cores

[burnt tree]

yup

exactly

[surreal gyro]

Yes they wont but the people who farmed the filler raid will be miles ahead in terms of ark grid progression

[burnt tree]

i can imagine raids being tuned for relic core

but ancient is overblown xD

[slow saddle]

They do make changes for the west and people still bitching

[sand marsh]

Yeah but the keyboard turning, CCs, what shares ICDs, each classes important CDs, etc.

[swift tree]

the filler raid is piss easy tho

and can be entered at 1700

[sand marsh]

Much easier tho true

[swift tree]

[burnt tree]

NM giving armor mats so u can switch right away once u hit 1730 is great ngl

[slow saddle]

Yup

[surreal gyro]

it is, but u cant be like ok i will stop playing for 3 months and come back for the next shadow raid

that's my point

[slow saddle]

But that’s normal no?

[cyan fog]

My poor sub rogue

[burnt tree]

tho it takes 3 weeks to get full ancient on HM so its not bad either

[surreal gyro]

cause while the new raid is easy, u have to hone the new gear from secra

[loud vortex]

Which one is more difficult?

[cyan fog]

They killed it dead

[loud vortex]

nmm serca or tfm kaz

[swift tree]

well no shit, that's unrealistic, but you can play less- and not fall dramatically so far behind that you're literally gatekept from the newest system

[slow saddle]

There has to be some level of ‘playing the game’ or you have to accept being behind

[wintry depot]

Tfm

[burnt tree]

and go past the "Dolores" only titles or 10x clears etc

[sand marsh]

Idk man ive seen Pika pop off in m+ on sub rogue

[surreal gyro]

yeah

[slow saddle]

You can’t just sit around and do nothing, then expect to be ready for a new raid release

[wintry depot]

Noppee

[surreal gyro]

Yeah makes sense

[slow saddle]

Unless you’re ahead of the curve

[burnt tree]

this isnt the kind of game u can take a lengthy break on god

[cyan fog]

Sub is good but it's just 0 satisfaction to play

ST 2 button AOE 2 diff buttons

Aids

[swift tree]

however you can also stop near the end of current progression events (1700*) and not fall so far behind that in 3 months you might as well quit

[sand marsh]

Yeah i took a month break now my roster is shit

Once you take a long break u basically never come back.

[burnt tree]

no it isnt shut

[slow saddle]

At most you can take maybe a 1 month (possibly 2) but it’s designed to have some regular upkeep and they do in fact minimize things like how dailies work

[swift tree]

It's not giga flex standard* so stfu Ratboi

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-rat-boy-the-simpsons-gif-21929996

[burnt tree]

bro humble bragging as if we cant see his roster

[slow saddle]

Your roster is still ahead but you wouldn’t be considered in the late endgame territory anymore

[sand marsh]

None of alts have even 5% of ark grid done

And my main isnt even finished

[slow saddle]

Like borderline nightmare now basically

[sand marsh]

W

[surreal gyro]

i took a 1 month break during strike raid and i still regret it

[swift tree]

you mean sidelines or cores?

[slow saddle]

Missing out on strike raids is a big slap to the face LOL

That shit was both fun and rewarding

[surreal gyro]

yeah my static disbanded and i was really annoyed lost motivation

[swift tree]

China's version was weirdly better but that means Strike is now a permanent raid :L

[sand marsh]

Cores for main. 0 ancient. And one core is 19p instead of 20 but getting it is hard. Because 19P is with one gem that has strong side nodes

[surreal gyro]

cause we had agreed to push all alts to 1720 and i spend all of my gold pushing alts only for them to disband once the raid came out, got super mad

[swift tree]

Ancient is not "done" you FOMO dummy

Relic is "done" and Ancient is Whale++

[sand marsh]

You cant whale for ancient...

[swift tree]

Not yet

[wise pasture]

[slow saddle]

It’s the side lines

[wise pasture]

can you?

[cyan fog]

wait deathboi is actually giga behind

[slow saddle]

Ancients is the least of our concerns

[cyan fog]

not even full 1730 on main 6

smh

[sand marsh]

Well my side lines are strong actually

[swift tree]

[slow saddle]

Cutting astrogems is where everyone will end up

[sand marsh]

The only way to increase my CP is ancient core or ilvl

It's 5.4k on at 1748

Sup cp is hard to push

[swift tree]

As it always does, we're back to cutting a Rock at an npc in town

[midnight marlin]

not being able to whale for elixirs didnt stop people from saying theyre done at set 40

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/mokoko-lost-ark-rpg-mmorpg-gif-24855439

[slow saddle]

I don’t wanna cut rocks

Take a rock and hit it upside my head instead

[sand marsh]

AI astrogem cutting coming to you in 2027

[wise pasture]

19mil awakening on guardianknight...

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/punya-gw-gif-21591247

[slow saddle]

One click astrogem cutting would be wild, I’ll take it

[swift tree]

polish wood instead

[ornate rain]

Would cutting Hair be better

[cyan fog]

my man unironically said "im behind" tho

behind the 0.01% yep

[slow saddle]

Different standards

[sand marsh]

For the average person yeah

[cyan fog]

ur behind jeff bezos and elon

but not by much

[burnt tree]

bro is near whales

[sand marsh]

Look at my alts lol

[burnt tree]

and hes "behind"

[slow saddle]

Naw

[burnt tree]

fk ur alts

[swift tree]

We had this chat before, I swear we're going in circles

[slow saddle]

Whales are 6k+

[wise pasture]

ye, ark grid doesnt exist, literally

[sand marsh]

My main used to be considered strong but not anymore

Everyone is 6k or close to it

[midnight marlin]

acg person my ass

stfu

[swift tree]

Just giga sweat new mats and you'll be 8k week 2

ezpz

[burnt tree]

hes behind at not even 1%

[cyan fog]

so what do u consider this @sand marsh

[sand marsh]

Someone who doesn't have 15k hours like i do lol

Just a different world

[swift tree]

No one show Deathboi my main

I think he'll keel over

[cyan fog]

ur playing lost ark 2 already

[sand marsh]

Om

[cyan fog]

compared to me

[sand marsh]

That's how the treadmill be man

Rip

[slow saddle]

[swift tree]

fucking dps build

[slow saddle]

Gonna be 8k cp in a month

[swift tree]

one sec

[loud vortex]

I wonder if I should hone another 1730

[slow saddle]

[sand marsh]

Imma just have to sit at 5.4k. There's no realistic way to increase it before nightmare

Unless I spend everything rn on honing

[swift tree]

5.4 is more than enough for nightmare

[sand marsh]

And hope for the best

[cyan fog]

you could cut some bracelets nerd

[desert plank]

wich card set is more important after serca? fire or earth?

[surreal gyro]

im at 4.6k T_T

[loud vortex]

Bruh, I don't even have a 5000+ char

[sand marsh]

It's not about enough or not. I've been at the same cp for months

[surreal gyro]

LoS , but get human damage up

[midnight marlin]

dark

[sand marsh]

I've been 5.4k cp for what

[surreal gyro]

oh after secra

[swift tree]

so has the ceiling

[surreal gyro]

ignore me

[sand marsh]

3 months?

[wise pasture]

[swift tree]

Yes

[cyan fog]

"no realistic way to increase CP"

[slow saddle]

Bracelets aren’t realistic tho tbh

[sand marsh]

Brother you want me to replace that?

Fuck off

Wtf

[loud vortex]

[surreal gyro]

ye good luck cutting 9/7 or a good bracelet

[sand marsh]

Yeah let me cut a 9/7

[wise pasture]

[cyan fog]

he did take 1 month break

[sand marsh]

Triple high line bracelet

[wise pasture]

do it

[sand marsh]

Yall are wizards!!!

Divine insight

[swift tree]

no joke the gold shop one will probably give more cp just because its that's broken

[sand marsh]

Who would've thought of this

Holy moly

[slow saddle]

Stone can def be upgraded if was doing paradise each week but still rng

It’s more “accessible” per say

[surreal gyro]

nah dw ive cut over 400 stones on my main with paradise nothing yet

[slow saddle]

The average is like 600-700 iirc

[wise pasture]

you acting as if that was impossible, meanwhile we have people ehre with 4 9 7 stones on the char...

[cyan fog]

think fayten cut over 1k and saw nothing

[surreal gyro]

ive gotten like 10 7/8s

[cyan fog]

[slow saddle]

Can swing in either direction

[sand marsh]

Rng man.

When AI came out I went thru like 500 stones

Before I took a breal

Break*

I actually spent my pheons

[wise pasture]

I cutted over 2k on first day

[sand marsh]

Very painfful

Well after 500 I got pissed

[wise pasture]

got fuck all, then did my sorc for new stone got 9 7 in 5tries in fact 4th one was it

[sand marsh]

And that's around when I took a break

[surreal gyro]

yeah and super expensive to get minimal CP

[sand marsh]

Yeah. Aside from ilvl for me it's ancient core, 9/7 or a 30% bracelet lol

[loud vortex]

I don't trust stones anymore

After 400 stones without even a 9/6

[surreal gyro]

im not going to spend my sanity or my gold for a week 1 clear, when we have a soft reset

its just fomo at this point

cause i can make way more use of my resources after i gear transfer and get way more CP

clearing NM secra week 1

(nightmare)

[cyan fog]

You could cut astros no

But yes it's a dice roll 100%

[surreal gyro]

im at 4.6k

[loud vortex]

I only have 4.9K

[surreal gyro]

https://lostark.bible/character/CE/Exuberance

shows less CP here idk why lol

[loud vortex]

I can go to 5K

but must take Grudge

which means I'll be very easy to deadge

[surreal gyro]

all we need is a good support

xddd

[slow saddle]

I was going to skip nightmares on my alts but I prob won’t depending on how prog goes

Maybe HM angle for 2-3 weeks then nightmare when comfortable

[sharp rock]

so if you have a bad supp 5k , if you have a good supp 4k

with 4.5 ur save doesnt matter the supp

[loud vortex]

But most of the lfg posts want 5k+

[wise pasture]

I wanna see you clear if your sup is 100% afk since start to end

[desert plank]

I heard that nightmare make sense just for title/mount cuz no dif in gear mats from hm.

[surreal gyro]

yes

[sharp rock]

i probably wont and waste 10 min writing a report ticket

[surreal gyro]

its just for the week 1 clear

[slow saddle]

I want to rush mount

Yeah

[meager hill]

this is the bare minimum for nightmare https://i.imgur.com/jWMB58K.png

[desert plank]

my main still 3.6k so no nightmare this time!

[meager hill]

[slow saddle]

Which tbh doesn’t matter much for alts

[swift tree]

fuck it, it's better than one I have rn

[slow saddle]

Does the roster level matter for nightmare too?

[sharp rock]

with this you can bus nightmare, im pretty sure

and also you dont need hands with this cp

[meager hill]

clearly not

[sharp rock]

fucking whales

[slow saddle]

Post mileage

[sharp rock]

probably lower then the median

[swift tree]

@sand marsh https://lostark.bible/character/NA/Barabrand cringe away daddy

[wind dagger]

barabrand?

[swift tree]

yeah

barachan is the zerker's name

[slow saddle]

Lmao did everyone here end up pulling up deathboi’s roster

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-27403481

[swift tree]

wanna know the breaker name?

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[wise pasture]

✅

[swift tree]

Barabrodown :3

https://tenor.com/view/what-bro-south-park-gif-26863248

[nova summit]

whats better h/l or mid mid

[wise pasture]

[nova summit]

[slow saddle]

High low

Think of a single high being relatively the same to mid/mid

[nova summit]

aight

[wise pasture]

generally slightly weaker, but ye

[slow saddle]

Yeah

[nova summit]

can anyone please look help channel and tell me which better? #lost-ark-help message

[wise pasture]

I dont bother with that channel

[nova summit]

one has high base stat and 3rd line is low atk power+

but its additional instead of outgoing high

[slow saddle]

Doesn’t really matter

It’s too relatively close that someone at your gear stage should go with what’s cheaper

The chart above should answer all your questions

Main stat also doesn’t matter too much

Common flat stats are just a bonus

[nova summit]

okayyy thx

[slow saddle]

Save 20k gold and use it elsewhere

[nova summit]

i got 850k rn

[slow saddle]

Also doesn’t solo shop give single cut highs?

[swift tree]

yes

[nova summit]

it does

but i want to setup my char for future raids now

[slow saddle]

Well yeah but

[nova summit]

so wanting the best before 600k+ accs

[slow saddle]

Most people aren’t checking that much

[nova summit]

cuz im never gonna pay that

[slow saddle]

So you rather just run the cheap single cut highs

And spend the rest of the money elsewhere on things that will give more damage

Like ark grid

[nova summit]

i see then

thx

ill wait with accs more

[slow saddle]

If it’s your main, you can wait and save way down the road for high-mids

[nova summit]

it indeed is

for alts ill just buy solo shops once they get to 1700

then ill save and yeah

got enought cp for raids im doing rn anyways

ill go do all my astrogems maybe i can enable the other 2 cores i got on legendary to be 14p

would be nice

[slow saddle]

Yup

[cyan fog]

They're taking ai slop to a whole new level on yt

Car written off? Aliens and war

London has fallen

[swift tree]

Easter Fairs here were using AI slop on the posters

[loud vortex]

They only check 2 things

cp and title/insignia

[tulip charm]

the last char refuse to cut the 9/7

[loud vortex]

At least u have 9/7

[tulip charm]

you will eventually get it, it just takes alot of time

[loud vortex]

and silver

Time to do my daily Indigo island

[ornate rain]

Someone want to help me with 100 life energy potions xx

[zenith canyon]

atleast say what server

[ornate rain]

Elpon euc

[zenith canyon]

meh

[keen socket]

currently watching the new road map vid. matt looks hella exhausted. mans looking like atlas carrying the entire western civ of lost ark on his back

[zenith canyon]

yeah working as 3man group as SOLO

[wise pasture]

have you seen his eyes

[swift magnet]

i lost

Hitmaster,Awakening and adrenaline already full xD

[wise pasture]

🐳

[formal frost]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-money-swag-dollars-more-money-gif-14611564

thats you /s

[swift magnet]

o.O

[uncut dirge]

i hate front attacking

it's so fucking garbage

[neon cedar]

Skill issue

[swift tree]

Class issue

[uncut dirge]

use skill
pushes you into boss
start charging quake smash
boss steps forward during attack/gets unstaggered
now i'm behind boss and my channeled skill is going to hit behind him instead of boss

and this just constantly happens because bosses have these stupid steps forward

[swift tree]

[uncut dirge]

it wouldn't feel so bad if half the attacks didn't push you forward into the boss

then i could at least prepare by staying further away from the boss

and the worst is when bosses get staggered/unstaggered or do some weird animation thing that momentarily removes them as a movement blocker