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4 act 4s and 5 mordumbs left
Thx4invite
Do you wanna raid more after dinner or no?
am i winning
Nah, maybe some more tomorrow
Oki
or losing a truckton of money
wtf are these new emojis

Wut
actually does anyone knows what BiS for astrogems is for support? is it 10s or 9s
10
29 T 
Im not sure t counts in that shit
apparently it takes the lowest T
You act like 32% is much better....
yo when did they change floor 50 of hell keys?
This season
huh, i see
normally T doesnt count
unless they changed it
then again this fight was liek the worst one ever, boss grabbing when i T

oh hold up
they changed it to avg constribution
not buff % uptime
yeah maybe my 1710 bard not buffing 1740 that well...



hmmmm?
huh
@wintry depot comecome ๐
o ye u right @devout nymph
Were done for the day
Its already midnight

We do act 4 tomorrow
my 1740 support is now farming logs with 1700 dps in mordoom


he wanted to nyappa like 30 min ago xD
that's kinda stupid..
yea
% DPS aka uDps is independent on how your support performs
% Supp aka Cont depends on how much gear your dps have

except it changes when you get sup vs if you didnt, but ye...
joever
p2 support forever cooked
well its unbeatable in static runs
and in any speedrun
its just dogshit if you are a rat
indeed
or in pugs
the ingame one ye
step1 buff at the start
step2 let the dps die with 100 100 100
step3 profit
cant u do that with contribution too tho?
works on both cases ||execpt it will be coutned as bus||
well both have their bad sides
im just thinking some people can run shittier dps and really geared sups to inflate their score
but i understand now
I mean sometimes u can't help but run a shitter dps shouldnt affect support contribution
you have a disadvantage when your dps is more geared than you
@neon cedar It was exactly 32.24 CP from Lv. 7 -> Lv. 8
you have no disadvantage but also no advantage when your party is the same gear
boils down to that sentiment

it should
because you're giving more dmg with
atk power buff
by giving your dmg dealers a higher atk buff compared to your base, you're theoretically giving them more dmg
like a 1700 dps vs 1755
Time to cosplay as zeals and do more raids
I mean at the end of the day its suppose to be just a metric for urself anyways
so it doesnt matter
I mean it is what it is I never went by that percentile anyways
i mean no metric is without fualts
still interesting to talk about the implciation and outliners
also im debating whats the best way to max your astrogems

make 2 sets
its probably better to cut green once and fuse with 1% chance on relic

by being lucky
than to spend 10k

log in, get frustrated. W
wait u quit? @sand marsh
ya
I THOUGHT THAT TOO LMAO
i grabbed a random 100% log of bard, but well i learned
Straight to prison actually
yeah im aware witchhunting is not allowed
just remember to not drop the soap @neon cedar
which soap
now you ahve my attention


guess ill fuse astrogems and burn silver isntead
then complain why i dont have silver
unless 
thats what i did

drop soap?
lol
how do you fuse, 2 purple 1 green?
or 2 green 1 purple/blue
oh so you dont rosterbind them from alts
i personally dont really see a point in burning a blue with double green to end up with a blue again
what my brain saw 
its more gold sink but more overall beter gems
i fuse shit purples
i fuse from alts, and take the roster bound to funnel to main
yeah i mean how do you convert purps form alts
real
i jsut went 17 on them and call it a day
its too much of a net lose to your holistic roster if you try to fuse to funnel to main for purples
so you rather use them on alts
but technically if i wanted to really cap out my main, i should do that
what does fusing do
i forgot
combine lower end gems for a chance at higher ones
make them rosterbound or increase/decrease grade
chance for roster bound silver cost
oh
and yeah roster binding them
so if its roster bound it cost silver?
a -400m silver in 30 minutes if you're mira
thought it's 100k
yeah purple ones are 9 taps
100k
120k is the silver accs
then more since u should be resetting good gems
that would be an economical approach
but would shoot u in the foot in the long run
cus those 10s can be useable esp if your alts drop ancient cores and so on
its economical approach for alts
its just too much giga damage
but if you wanna minmax main past 17 you need those
like u rather be 17 with boss damage on those 10s than 20 without it
Buff silver
i actually fed chatgpt all those %s
and it said 2 purps + 1 green is the way
Did he sigh
Ok, I forgive u, dear purple key
I will trust purple key again
i thought it was written tachibana.owo
Lmao
Think that's a Chinese user
Phuck u purple keys
is there new chaos and guardian with Serca update ?
Yes
yes 1730
what's 2 blue 1 green? @devout nymph
should we stop doing them for rested ? or not worth it
i did
its the new mats right? for 1730
hit me
Yes
yea yea ill save then
Pls bann this man
and 1 more, 2 blue 1 purple
Yeah it takes 10 days to max rested
yea ill get what I can u know
those % are cooked as mentioned
Yeah that's better than nothing
ty โค๏ธ
It's fine
is new guardian 1740?
1730
Just too mant paralyze
oh cool
deskaluda the best
Deathboi is right for once
But i don't care abt paralyze since im igniter
i wanted to write

i had an igniter today
Igniter usually does very low dmg compare to other classes in guardian
no it doesnt
(when they wanna save stimmy)
Who the phuck waste their stimmy in guardian raids? - Zyraphine, 2026

On China in WWM the Hengdao weap is the second most popular weapon in the game but it did less damage than healers even(was buffed last week btw), but here people min maxxing what's good or bad even for guardian outside of cards 
- 1 CD

i hope youll spontaneously shit yourself during your sleep
cd?
deathboi quit and his lucksack soul got shredded across NA
cursed doll
I burnt 800ish stimmy in tfm progging, so no stimmy for guardian anymore
cheapo
bottom
smh
the only dogshet GR is scorp
vers myself, but ok
krathios is still pretty shit
gz tho
temu gantu
it was better when you could grenade his ass
what ilevel was that hell key tho ๐ @desert plank

pog
Scorpion is so painful
I mean by the time u grenade hes technically dead already

Trying to get the rest out of that zone
yeah nbut its just waste of time
scorp isnt the worst imo
dps buff is lit af
ye
and on avg drex only gives .4 more gems
Frost key IV, on a rat btw 
I still remember last time when I helped my friend doing scorp
ooo 1700
not bad
Scorp just sucks to do because people suck ass
3 1720+
i just had someone quit act 4 normal because the support that was relatively new had 40% uptime, so the guy babyrage afk'd until we quit
cleared over 5 min
disgusting freaks honestly
phuck scorp
gotta get that "free me" achievement somehow
thats skill issue tho
I am lucky to get one jg while doo scorp
toxic wtf
Miss click a lot
at least I had 60% whilst healing tf outta g2 
@sand marsh you missed it, I started doing Act 4
well yeah so its not skorp fault
no one learned any mech abt scorp
u cant parse in fucking worthless raid so just quit
But 1700 guardian doesn't take that much time, even for a full group of first-comers
lol why now
i mean skorp has 1 mech
Drex is comfy
its been nerfed forever right
thats all
For me atleast
act 4 sucks btw
better than never
I love act 4 tbh
dogshit ass gate
the party lead that raged was also on like 1800cp rat....
i need june to come sooner
Especially gate 1

and hes like "supp do 40 buff"....

woah woah woah
you dont
... Cathedral has one too with the Bell transition
so idk
1800cp in full 2.4 party with 1x 1300mokoko (his friend) and that supp
i actually cant believe people are this disgusting lol
wont be as bad as echidna
full cutscenes
stupid ass mech jumping around
so fucking dogshit
time waster useless shit gate
when serca comes out, parsing normal and hard is gonna be worthless
cuz nightmare
weird how people are trying to parse normal
thats like parsing LFR in wow
lol
sensory overload from seeing the same cutscene 1000th time
i just assume he is raging bcus no parse
i clsoe my eyes
but who knows what he was thinking
Tbh
minus the shield throw mech
i love g2 @wintry depot
and people killing the red statue
40% uptime = no mana = some classes just cant play at all
g2 is just another Trixion
what core are u using for paladin
so many dps opportunities
at least twice per week
lol
wow zeals mvp
hes already there
that garbage is the reason KR didnt wanna add meter
there were absolutely 0 signs of struggle due to either the support or anything btw
and KR is wayy more toxic
kr literally inven people that are bad 
Its not that bad as long as you know what patterns do dmg
I tried last week
Wasted like 30 now counting yapping about it here 
what sup
I didn't DR in that oneshot mech, thought everyone gonna dodge it
Then boom, 2 dps dead in my party
never assume people will dodge

What one shot
If its dr able im tanking
ye which sup?
25% bar
see
neh
WOAH WTF
I don't DR ppl sometimes
u can skip g1 mordum????
ye
holy moly
along with 2-1
it took 23525 years
I stopped DRing a shadowhunter that kept leaping off like a lemming
they called me a dick in indonesian
DPS think rhaps has 0 CD
jesus christ
if u kill 2-1 before the end of it, he insta phases
and 2 other DPS don't exist
yea i remember that
i didnt know about mordum cuz i never did it since kaz came out
straight up skipped it for the most part
it was the same patch
already in new LOL
Valky
do u have mana issues usually? @loud vortex
As long as it isn't tfm its not that hard to supp kaz ngl
Nope, I have Azena on it
i switch teh mp cost tripod on the lower cd ap buff skill to the shield one
On supp valk? I need food or max mp or I cry
and it's really nice
nah even tfm is chill as long as you know what actually hurts
which isnt hard to figure out
One of the dead guy even has tfm title
Abyss Customer
busses exist

I was like ''wtf??? how u got hit???''
Only reason to get hit is if no stand up ig
u mean g1 right?
cross slash, coop counter, chains shit
ah cross slash
I dunno either
on TFM, theres 2 different timing
roughly like 1.5 sec after he flashes blue or some shit
for the chains
I usually just X to his back in tfm
Nah, there's 3 different speed
isnt there always 2 variations?
is there?
i thought it was only 2
3 iirc
on HM i dont think so
but the chain specific one, theres 2
its why ppl mess up the timings in TFM because it comes by surprise
But usually if u G when his sword shines blue, then u can jg it
i swear ive seen both
theres a fast and a slow one, both you can G with sword shining no
i dont remember anything regarding chain in kazeros
There's 3 types in tfm tho
i just like when kaz chains me up and makes me submissive, i enjoy the pain that comes with it
But I'm a sorc, so phuck u kazeros
idk what ur talking about tbh
I'm using X anyway
but i forgot some stuff

r u sure ?
oops
wrong reply
r u sure o-o
like of chains?
or of patterns
patterns, yes
Ye, chains
memo only mentions 2
the 25/50/75 identity stuff
Very slow, slow, fast

Or I was not paying attention at all
counters, the x, and the chains
chains OP
oh
that
aint nobody care about that

shut up and get DR'ed/Shielding and keep dpsing
I don't care tbh
nah
It's oneshot in tfm
if you get hit, ur deadge
you can definitely tank a small amount of hits, the chains that fall from the ceiling is what you're talking about?
or something else
no
no
now im thinking we talking about something else
the identity pattern

talking about mech chains
it's the 25% energy bar chains
nvm then
swipe u dead
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about 2 speeds of just guard
No sorc will give a phuck abt it
and mfers said 3
we just X to his back
yeah thats the ideal thing to do since we know the identity is coming
it is not a bus
Nm kaz btw

time to obliterate like 50m silver
Kekw
perfect
send me the purples
thanks
Time to do indigo island again
u dont need them

you cant say that
you're supposed to censor it
like this
v* lobbies
they dont deserve being spelled out
I literally didn't pay much attention to it

you know whats funny
but feels like 3 speeds
im on vaigrys
disgusting
On par with Balthor
in WoW there is a vaigrys. it's called Azralon/Raganros server
and they are waaay worse than vaigrys
like infinitely worse
Tbh, Vairgrys ppl are really good
tbh if they didnt D/C all the time i wouldnt care
Balthorr is fine wtf you yapping about
thats so cap
for tfm lobbies only
but the D/C is actually insane
1 in every 30 are really good
yeah and im jesus christ

nice joke
Nah you guys are criminals
tfm will die next week so all good
No hands no buff
the classic
One bad experience and suddenly balthorr is a bad server
My first g1 clear is with Vairgrys
Right
hmmmmmmmmmm
Multiple
Quit the cap
But for other raids, I would not comment
Heck u
How about Thaemine and Brelshaza?
fk them too
Fuck westers
it didnt work :(

we dont need them on our EAST COAST servers
@slow saddle if you fuse x3 greens and u get roster bound green, do u fuse that to try and get blue or try to cut it if you hit a +4 red/yellow on first try
Ban
i fuse since im min-maxing main
on alts, i really only cut blues/purples
that's why you guys are handless
i rather chance the greens than burn gold trying to cut them
all the good players are on luterra and nineveh
Nah
thats cap
Balth is not handless
yeah but fusing costs less no? cuz of the chance of getting roster bound?
it does cost less to fuse, which is why its generally best to keep going at it
the second u start cutting things that arent in your favor for high point gems, you lose more in the long run
Pick a struggle
yeah my only goal is to "finish" it
not minmax side nodes
for that
in that case im assuming fusing is best
vrah
im poggers luterra
see what the first 1-2 cuts are like
green 8s and try to cut?

i think my belly struggles to digest my spaghetti plate

i should cut more astrogems
but i don't want to cut any unless they're purples
and i ran out of those


youve been done since 4months ago
astrogems
never done
ever
its like a disease
parasite
SUCKING MY GOLD AWAY

i say it all the time
i think these koreans
whoever comes up with these ideas
going straight to hell

theres LIMITS to how much rng you can layer on top of each other

OG MMOs, its fine to have RNG
its the nature of things
but
somehow these koreans
layer multiple of it on top of it each other
even things like the card system still garbage
Me whenever i have to sit to cut astrogems
rather get the chinese
I blame gacha games
nonononononononononono
Gachas are horrid
Koreans love swiping and all these systems just reinforces that
pls nonononono
i mean in the files failing or succeeding hones is called "gacha" 
I download the newest hot one for the free shit to get a dopamine hit and then uninstall
instant gratification type society
Phuck Tencent, NetEase, Mihoyo and all kinda shit


Mihoyo pmo
i like netease
hmmm
giga shit luck
Slowly devolving into gooner game
They probably behaved better when going abroad
at least i can swipe $100 for a gacha outfit and actually get it
if it was SG, it would $500 with a chance and you still couldnt get it
Just means a new game for you to play

to be fair those goony skins are comic accurate LMAO
That was obvious when they gave VENOM a skin with an ASS with JIGGLE PHYSICS
They literally milked player to death in Chinese servers
but a lot of ppl dont fkin read comics or search
Magiks newest skin is comic accurate
There are a ton they couldโve picked
i mean they have over 8000 characters they can pick from and outfit variants, they will add more
wtf is this title
April Fools
I like that shark jeff
account bugged
Iโm gonna be real they are never adding 8k characters
and luna snow
ok ty
astrogems is actually brilliant system
It physically wouldnโt work out
no they arent, but Marvel has given access to those
It was this years April Fools thing
if u think about it its p2w gap is insane and FOMO
At best they get close to a 300 character roster
Marvel has given NetEase access to a library of 8k characters tho
yeah
but they are planning game originals as well
I wonder if any company can do a game about Marvel vs DC
The only company that i can imagine is Lego
oh yeah DC did a crossover with Spiderman and Superman
and it was the best written Spiderman in years lmao
Lego can use both companies' ip i guess
man i wont be able to watch Spiderman at the cinema in summer
my local theater will be closed
just fly over elsewhere
My hmord might be a jail

๐ณ
all good, he prob dropped poop in the front before he died
Im cold
after my zaza run from my vid i've send you we did another run
that last run was a mistake xD
ppl couldnt jg xD
XDDD
yeah i did 11 and im kinda fried
i am totally fried xD
and didnt have dinner xD
never again xD
i eat now and prob fall asleep while eating xD
You didn't get the title? Rip, 
have you tried unequiping the other core
try to gamba ancient with pity shards or get this last leggy upgraded to relic?
ig leggy upgrade smarter
unusable as in doesnt fit my build ๐
positioning issue
get the last relic
relic ๐ฏ


would raid but on way to appointment 
now im poor
Gotta be a whale


bought account fr
ONE. MORE. GEM.
Better cp than main
i was thinking so as well
sooo much better xD
you got your last core right ?
well order core
yes
noice
Surely I get mine today
170ish for a 1720 is somewhat possible tho
well doesnt matter much anyway
But 200- in g3 is sus
Anything possible if you're dead
I just put wherever the bot told me to
It gives higher cp
I used to get 180ish in g1 without dead
niff need betetr gems
This is why everyone should go grudgeless with endurance substat
bot told me to put 17 on faith and 14 on brand
i reversed it and it was same cp
10% crit rate of T for empress arcana


my valk cant cut gems
you can just check
Ah ok
iirc wep core gives shit cp
Ill just reverse it then
Where sup cores
giga sup
my valky is dps
Youre wrong
but yeah just check if its same cp or not
i know for faith and brand its same
but idk for wep
Need 1 more cp
poggers got 7 cp
my sup finally hit 3000 cp last reset
o ye

slowly growing
But that zerker didn't die tho
I'm too stupid to figure that out
No skull mark beside his id
Same
i dont like her as sup ๐
i dont have gold to fix that shit xDD
I'm sorry??
How? What's the chance
Heck u
No that's @wise pasture
whale
eat my ass
so i need to sell the red juices second week of serca right ?
she tiny -.-
or first is fine
2nd week is 25 time I think yeah
NO
BAD

me no like waiting
Nice
I haven't done chaos gate in like a week cuz idgaf any more
Quit soontm 
dont fomo
hot
good
oh i invested in those
bought a lot
Where normal one? 
rip
hoping it will go up
LOLOLOLOL
that shit is impossible
always a fucking dumbass with zdps that greeds and die like a mf
Okay that nails it. Deathboi and I freaky fridayโd

i have 30 sellable xD
yeah thankx for invite man
Deathboi getting random superfluous luck thatโs neat but not helpfulโฆ
help
I need to do this one tho.
no diff
Need both for myself
kaz nm dl is as doable as the 0 bleed stacks for me
rip
That one isn't too bad in a good geat 1720
its alts idc
its the june raid tho
not serca
i just need the correct star core to play paladin
poggies
June raid plus you get essence at same speed as the raid currency you need
no, i like to get bleed stacks
can you stop flaunting your wealth like this
There isn't a point saving
so wealthy it makes me wanna cry
Lmao




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