lost-ark-discussions

[kind lotus]

They need to buff the hyperv damage eventually

Inb4 next vertical system adds skill tree to hyper v

[neon cedar]

I have 15fps

wtf

[queen grail]

sorc is so busted, my rat sorc doing normal since It's just non-gold and pumping 500mil+ dps

[mortal burrow]

some dont work tho

or i mean u cant dodge some patterns with it

i think u cant hyper the laser

[high fog]

I always hyper the same patterns every raid

[mortal burrow]

from mordum, the one that 1 shot u

[fresh flint]

I beat that bard on all 3 gates xDD

[neon cedar]

Holy shit that was so painful. Idk why but my computer suffered through that g3. At best I had 30fps

But I was dropping to 5 a lot

[fresh flint]

Maybe steam was updating something in the bg?

[pine imp]

I mean support radiant underline is all depending on ur teams dmg

[neon cedar]

It should be idk

[fresh flint]

Another raid?

[neon cedar]

Sure, which one?

[fresh flint]

Lemme see

[high fog]

I hyper the spokes in mordum g3, I hyper snakes in a4 g1, I hyper the charge in a4 g2, the ending jg in kaz g1, rock snakes in g2-1, and the first annoying pattern in kaz 2-3

[mortal burrow]

spokes?

[neon cedar]

Oh I got rewarded for no fpd

[worldly hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-hamsters-eating-cute-hamster-cute-gif-2699101254265325089

[fresh flint]

pog nice

[high fog]

The first mech after first stage break

[mortal burrow]

ah thjat one

[high fog]

Sometimes don’t have it up but most of the times it just means I don’t need to go to safwspot and miss damage on my melee chars

[fresh flint]

@neon cedar I have Hmord x2, Nm Kaz x2, Nm Act 4 x1

[neon cedar]

Okay, well idc what we do

[fresh flint]

Okay let me use bathroom real quick. We can do nm kz and hmord on my summoner

[queen grail]

Maybe I'm just a really good sorc

[neon cedar]

All my chars look like this rn

I swapped to red lancer like 4 weeks ago and havent raided on him yet

[high fog]

That’s just the low cp effect

Most ppl still running them don’t give a shit about the chars

[queen grail]

It's based on that Combat Bracket tho.

[high fog]

[queen grail]

You guys just phone in raids or what?

https://giphy.com/gifs/muppetwiki-muppets-kermit-the-frog-xdLH51eNWZAHrwy5mf

[high fog]

I recline fully

When I’m on my rats XD

[queen grail]

https://giphy.com/gifs/BTTF-back-to-the-future-bttf-one-rpRVLhPHMbK1ILfPmE

[neon cedar]

Oh fuck, do I need Epilouge done for Serca?

[fresh flint]

Uhmmmmm

I dunno

[neon cedar]

I need to do it 4 times

Im gonna go mad

[modern hatch]

I think so yeah

I need to do it 4x more

[pine imp]

KT done

[wise pasture]

if you mean the 30 min story fight against kazeros then yes

[neon cedar]

Im not spending 60k on KT

[pine imp]

id rather spend it on KT and then use the time to use 100 lifeskill pots

[neon cedar]

There is no way my Sorc can get a NM Serca group so I can at least not do her msq

[wise pasture]

rookie numbers

[modern hatch]

Nah u got this fam

[neon cedar]

I NEED to do it 4 times. I CAN do it 8

[wise pasture]

I need 6, should do 16

[neon cedar]

She's 1750cp

Shes not getting a group

[modern hatch]

Ezpz

Just make ur own group

And play amongst the

[neon cedar]

For no one to join? Why waste my time when I could play any other game

[modern hatch]

TRUE

About2quit

[neon cedar]

Ill do my 2 okayish alts and ignore the rest

[fresh flint]

I’ll be back soon. Mom talking to me. 5 ish mins.

[obtuse oyster]

Om

[neon cedar]

Hi Chris' mom

[fresh flint]

She’s gardening

[slender sky]

??

[fresh flint]

@neon cedar Am reddi

[neon cedar]

Samesies

[fresh flint]

Nm kaz first

try dis one

https://tenor.com/view/cat-head-bump-cat-nodding-nod-grooving-cat-dancing-gif-18185474

450k for 8s

[slender sky]

im rdy too what are we doing

[fresh flint]

Raiding

[slender sky]

oh 🙁

[neon cedar]

Is this fr

[fresh flint]

but i lowkey wanna leave the lobby after he decided a 1.6k support was our support

That shit pmo

[fresh flint]

@neon cedar

Wanna apply to the other lobby

[neon cedar]

sure

[fresh flint]

kk

[slender sky]

yea 1,6k cp at 1710 aint it

[fresh flint]

It's not

He's a whole ass bozo

His lobby title is 2k+ too which makes 0 sense.. it's prob a rat friend

Lmao 2 other people left his lobby when we left

[slender sky]

even my ratties that dont have full karma have more

[pine imp]

1600 is most likely a no ark grid sup

and no gems

prob missing karma too

thats pretty low

prob not even a 1k atk pwr CP sup

[mystic sphinx]

no grid no gems no karma

what are we doin

[pine imp]

tru def of rat prob would need to examine eng too

[mystic sphinx]

powerpuff girls evil edition or wuh

[pine imp]

if its a maxed expert awaken then its 100% just a 1200 CP sup

which is just 900 buff pwer CP sup

which is basically 0 dmg inc

[fresh flint]

bruh

[worldly hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/687722023711014990/1441256202607792138/caption.gif

[slender sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/687722023711014990/1441256202607792138/caption.gif

[obtuse oyster]

average support main

[pine imp]

average support main

more like DPS main

[vagrant cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/687722023711014990/1441256202607792138/caption.gif?ex=69d516af&is=69d3c52f&hm=bf0722f848b33efec94938677ed104fcd0672309687df2e1141191ed6a67c897&

[naive nimbus]

2200 cp supp for serca is ok?

Or need to push a bit more on ark grid

Normal mode just in case

[obtuse oyster]

more then enough

[mystic sphinx]

surely a4 and a5 solo mode after new dungeons

[obtuse oyster]

[queen grail]

[slender sky]

they will prob showcase it at loa on

[fresh flint]

Some 1740s are quite concerning

[viscid sand]

They're just there to take their paycheck

[modern hatch]

Im in this photo and I dont like it

[fresh flint]

proof

[modern hatch]

(My valk has no grid)

[fresh flint]

yeah but kaz nm is like...the easiest fuckin raid

[viscid sand]

180 is like... 1710 dmg with Netflix on the side

[fresh flint]

[viscid sand]

Hence why they're putting minimal effort

[pine imp]

or someone who bought acc

[viscid sand]

Sweat and you get 2 purple cores

Try hard and you get 2 purple cores

Why even sweat

Send 8 skills and drink water, rinse and repeat

[queen grail]

[steady mural]

I don’t even bother sweating the game

[viscid sand]

And then lil Timmy at the side dying to a sneeze gets an ancient and you're like

[modern hatch]

8 is an awful lot of skills.

[steady mural]

I just want to chill and do my solo raids

[viscid sand]

My bad g.
*throw dark then watch netflix

[modern hatch]

Nah

[pine imp]

why throw any just throw 0 skills afk be dead get 2 ancient cores

[modern hatch]

Turn on LC bird

And go fap

[viscid sand]

That's probably what he did

[modern hatch]

Based

[viscid sand]

Then he only uses spells when he has to refresh the cawk

[fresh flint]

yeah thats def what it was

[mystic sphinx]

praygi

[fresh flint]

Some people are just born shit

[mystic sphinx]

sounds like some classes

[fresh flint]

Same amount of casts as our top dps so that definitely wasnt the case

Meanwhile my co summ

[mystic sphinx]

hes sweating

[fresh flint]

Thats just co summ shenanigans

[mystic sphinx]

imagine doing all that while having nothing interesting going on in ur screen

[fresh flint]

I like co summ

MS is literally just bird spam

Most boring shit ever

[neon cedar]

Not with ark grid

[mystic sphinx]

is it the one where they CAN but WONT be helpful to the party

[fresh flint]

If you go spear grid

?

[mortal burrow]

and the rotating identity one

[fresh flint]

Maybe

[mystic sphinx]

sanest lobby title

[fresh flint]

kek

[neon cedar]

Doesnt say FAST!!!! so itll probably be jail

[slender sky]

dont think you need much praying for that, they alrdy confirmed theyre working on them and we are still 2 raids ahead with group raids

[mystic sphinx]

the sooner the better PRAYGE

just hoping the reward difference isnt diabolical

[mortal burrow]

it's prob the same as nm

like the other raids

[slender sky]

yup

[mystic sphinx]

would they take off grid from solo mode?

[slender sky]

same as nm with gold being fullbound as usual

no

[modern hatch]

Nah but itll be 95% purples like nm is

[slender sky]

yea

[mystic sphinx]

better purple than being forced to socialize i guess

[obtuse oyster]

om

[modern hatch]

[mystic sphinx]

what

[obtuse oyster]

nah, ark grid is the reason for a4/kaz/serca/abyss

would be like taking away the mordum ah mats from solo mode

[fresh flint]

damn i did zdps

[modern hatch]

I love having 4 raids for 1 system
That im done with after the first 2

[mystic sphinx]

kinda hoping one day we can get everything from solo since its not really an mmo anymore

[fresh flint]

Delete G1 and G2 of mord ty

[slender sky]

thats never gonna happen

[pine imp]

game was never a mmo

[mystic sphinx]

one can cope EulaCopium

[modern hatch]

Just wait for April 15 ez

[obtuse oyster]

real, helps the people coming in or fresh characters

[slender sky]

youll always be a couple raids behind on solo

[obtuse oyster]

rest of us just gonna be fishing for ancients

and min-maxing one of the sub lines

[mystic sphinx]

being behind is one thing but locked progress is another

the eyes and the mordum BALLs

[modern hatch]

Youre locked out of progress BECAUSE youre behind though

[obtuse oyster]

^

[modern hatch]

Solo shop?

[mystic sphinx]

i guess

[mystic sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/but-heres-the-uh-i-forgor-gif-26494840

[swift tree]

In SG’s defence 2 came at the same time. 1 is a gear reset as well and the fourth helps you finish off Ancient cores

[slender sky]

is that sarcasm coz the vast majority of players get a sudden outburst of tears when they hear theres a potential new gold sink

[obtuse oyster]

players when they have to burn gold

[slender sky]

so 4 raids for 1 system should be heaven for them

[obtuse oyster]

"How dare you"

[modern hatch]

I dont, I enjoy progressing my characters power

Otherwise why would I play?

[slender sky]

WDYM I HAVE TO PROGRESS????

[obtuse oyster]

this is progressing your characters power

just incremental numbers

[swift tree]

see: what I just fucking posted

[slender sky]

i mean you still do, dont think youre 80+% dmg sublines and 6/6 ancient cores

[modern hatch]

The gear reset sure
But ancient thing is irrelevant for my lucksack ass

[obtuse oyster]

tfm regulus ready (this is me)

[mortal burrow]

o ye

[swift tree]

Well not everyone drops ancient cores like Paekes drops 200k bars

[mortal burrow]

they're also working on a system accompanying ark grid too

right?

[slender sky]

thats how most my shit looks too bang on 50/50 sup dps lines

[swift tree]

Yes but it’s not a power system- It’s a story/exploration one

The Cultist Web

[modern hatch]

Same
Ill min max when we get nerfs

[mortal burrow]

o

[swift tree]

… also a combat revamp

[obtuse oyster]

I got a bridge to sell you

[modern hatch]

Till then its be a waste of my resources

[mortal burrow]

i thought they said they would make a power system because balancing is hard

lmao

[swift tree]

whatever that means

[modern hatch]

Ok ill buy kap

[pine imp]

min maxing is only for p2w ppl who just play normally can't min max until system nerfs

[obtuse oyster]

you can, but you're not realistically getting both node min max

you can aim to get 1 node to 5 and aim for it to be additional or boss

[swift tree]

They said they were doing a combat overhaul whilst focusing on less endgame/raiding focused content to bring more life into the game

[mystic sphinx]

bring life to my sailing instead

Madge

[pine imp]

u almost always get additional and atk pwr

[swift tree]

Which is tied to however they plan on re-adding Hell

[pine imp]

I don't think any of my chars have 2 of nothing and fully 1 side

[obtuse oyster]

you have to cut 9 for boss

8 is add and atk power

[mystic sphinx]

im pessimistic when it comes to hell since they said hell wont be equalized anymore

[obtuse oyster]

10 is boss and add

[mystic sphinx]

but i hope for the best

[modern hatch]

I mean they can't make it engaging and equalized

Why would I play some neutered version of my character with no grid

[swift tree]

At least not equalized in the way BoC did it

[mystic sphinx]

its not fun to one shot bosses to get the title which once was a prestige achievement

unless theyre making kazeros hells

[pine imp]

also gem generation doesn't even exist its again just pure RNG

[modern hatch]

I mean they just make extreme modes or smth

Cycle them out

[swift tree]

There’s a way to do it without completely gutting classes

[modern hatch]

Balance patch hp and dmg as needed

[obtuse oyster]

that has been my complaint since day 1

[mystic sphinx]

SkadiNODDERS

kazeros raid hell mode would be interesting

legion raids are too old to enjoy

[swift tree]

They announced Kazeros EX already

[pine imp]

well blame the whole funneling trading etc gems is bad

[mystic sphinx]

not the kazeros himself

i mean the kazeros raids

entire tab

[modern hatch]

I want thae hell

[mystic sphinx]

CHRIST

[swift tree]

oh. Rip only China gets those

[slender sky]

not equalized doesnt mean oneshotting the boss, theyve proven theyre capable of doing harder modes like catastrophe. no reason that couldnt be applied to hell aswell

[mystic sphinx]

china even got playable content in april fools thing Madge

or something

[mortal burrow]

im glad for the silver gems tho

[pine imp]

silver gems I find them to be such a silver sink u have ppl complain about silver

[mystic sphinx]

never heard of that

[swift tree]

Korea got a sailing event

[mystic sphinx]

yea

we got shafted until 27th

[vagrant cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-dog-meme-br-funny-drowning-gif-25023136

[modern hatch]

2027 probably

[swift tree]

catastrophe is the Hell mode for China. Aegir and Brel currently have modes. 1/5/10 kills have player banners, leaderboard like TFM and animated titles

[slender sky]

additional difficulty CN server has

[mystic sphinx]

nop

[swift tree]

perma up

[mystic sphinx]

see thats what i wanna see yesge

[fresh flint]

this artist is so garbage

fuck sake man

[neon cedar]

She places the stupid circle in the middle of the boss and there is nothing to stand in

[mystic sphinx]

is there a gif for the animated title i never saw one b4

[pine imp]

u guys still in that terrible kaz NM?

[swift tree]

“Abyss Gazer” with lava/rock instead of Kazeros’ purple

[mortal burrow]

most of my silver sink is from hell

using accessories and plus honing

feelsbadman

[swift tree]

Act 3

[pine imp]

paradise has insane silver sinks

if u wanna min max

[swift tree]

min max deez

[mortal burrow]

the reason why i have low silver tho

is prob im tryna hone my alts

to 1680

LMAO

[mystic sphinx]

AveleyYap_Ani

[mortal burrow]

but i decided to stop normal honing

and now it's going back up

[pine imp]

everyone is a gatekeeper

the ones complaining about ppl being bad are also gatekeepers

[wintry depot]

It was just a shitty daily boss

[swift tree]

the people being bad are the ones making gatekeeping parties so pugs carry them

[mortal burrow]

kekw

[wintry depot]

Well twice daily

[mystic sphinx]

1.3k cp asking for 2.5k

[mortal burrow]

1.8k cp armoche nm only

-> leader proceeds to do zdps

[obtuse oyster]

support

[pine imp]

ppl being bad gatekeep

ppl 1730+ gatekeep shit CP

goes both ways

[slender sky]

defild video detected, opinion rejected

[pine imp]

entire game is gatekeeping

[swift tree]

or is a 1.3k sup with no books/gems/wealth runes

[frail swallow]

It can be a multitude of things. Its still an annoying aspect of grouping for content in MMORPGs like Lost Ark, but it has no like...real solution.

[pine imp]

and if u are the one carrying u just constantly say ppl are bad and got bussed

[mystic sphinx]

i gave him a chance last night with kazeros guide, never again CHRIST

[pine imp]

so essentially bussing ppl without getting paid

[swift tree]

It helps to step outside the raiding compound now and again. Less gates

https://tenor.com/view/fionapawprint-peter-griffin-the-sound-of-music-christa-paffgen-gif-9243629211525344145

[pine imp]

I mean raids are what

6~10 hrs a week

then nothing entire week

[slender sky]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-community-good-J8FZIm9VoBU6Q

[swift tree]

I mean there’s stuff other than raids- it just doesn’t immediately equate to vertical progression so ppl ignore

[wise pasture]

as zerker I could never be the problem

[swift tree]

granted Smilegate likes hacking and burning anything other than raids

[frail swallow]

I think what would help Lost Ark and peoples feeling towards the gatekeeping issue is having other kinds of content that helps gearing more than what we currently have. Solo Raids is a good start, but like...other things and maybe even duo raids or something.

[pine imp]

I mean ppl still do raids even if its solo raids

[mystic sphinx]

you are the root of all problems

[pine imp]

nobody goes and does 0 raids and paradise only

cos why? cos of FOMO same with doing CG and FB

[wise pasture]

[mystic sphinx]

change to slayer and we can be cool

[fresh flint]

Jesus fuck man

[swift tree]

Just because Zerker has big sword like Antares doesn’t make em fault for everything

[pine imp]

pretty sure gatekeeping exists in most multiplayer games granted its already handled by ELO for ranked and hidden ELO for casual

[mystic sphinx]

EulaCopium

[wise pasture]

slayer has nice booba

[frail swallow]

To be fair, there was a fairly lengthy period there where after the Mayhem rework it was a lot of unga bunga and then floor pov

[mystic sphinx]

is booba the only thing you care about

[modern hatch]

Yea

[wise pasture]

maybe

[steady mural]

I was disappointed that guardian knight did not have slayer’s body model

[wise pasture]

and rage

[swift tree]

Well ye, didn’t help all the drones following streamers played zerk

[steady mural]

I have two valks and one slayer

[mystic sphinx]

you shush and send floof

MEOW

[swift tree]

And Zerk was op on launch then nerfed

[pine imp]

I mean more accessability for raids maybe but at the same time this game is designed for FOMO / p2w kinda difficult for them to even make anything casual related

[obtuse oyster]

posting my alt

[modern hatch]

No

[fresh flint]

smol monees

[mystic sphinx]

why only one slayer

[steady mural]

Zerks were the butt of the joke for the community for ages

[worldly hawk]

don't think that's ever selling

[mystic sphinx]

Madge

[fresh flint]

no it was a dogshit artist

[obtuse oyster]

the next raid is 1710 ilvl and the next one is 1700 for normal

[wintry depot]

Im hungry

[modern hatch]

Fluff is group chat now

[pine imp]

yea but u get 0 progression from what I heard

[swift tree]

Both also have multiple revives

[mystic sphinx]

SADGE

[obtuse oyster]

it gives you cores

which you need once you try honing to 1730

[burnt tree]

[swift tree]

You get cores, and mats and weekly gold

[mystic sphinx]

holy

[frail swallow]

I think the hesitation with adding more "worthwhile" content may come more from the games consistent issues of gold inflation. The times where gold has been spread out more all the people with a billion alts and alt accounts just accumulated so much crap and it was awful for everyone else.

[modern hatch]

Make it roster bound gold ig
Or silver

[pine imp]

I mean that issue is always a persistent issue in any MMO game and then it always boils down back to bussing

[burnt tree]

they should make the game an MMO

[swift tree]

Their baby steps with bound gold seems like they’re trying to slowly get Korean audience used to it

[obtuse oyster]

I believe the most current raid in kr gives character bound

but I might be wrong

it's either char or roster

[swift tree]

it does

[swift tree]

Korea doesn’t have roster gold

[queen grail]

Char bound from raid would be insane

[pine imp]

cores? not the stuff to gear transfer right cos I heard NM doesn't give gear transfer mats

[obtuse oyster]

Western privillage

[fresh flint]

would suck ass

[tulip charm]

gold is gold, it always gets spent, i can't even remb the last time i had stored up roster/char bound gold at the end of any reset except on lopang characters that got some gold from paradise

[swift tree]

We actually push our rats

[queen grail]

Ye, that would be some crazy ass shit

[obtuse oyster]

you need to be 1730 with ah 40 done to even transfer

[tulip charm]

people make way too big of a deal with this roster gold/char gold/rice eater gold/none rice eater gold/korea gold/chinese gold

gold is gold

[frail swallow]

Carry stuff like that is a contributor for sure, it exacerbates the problem.

[fresh flint]

Imagine being 1730 and trying to hone with 1 characters worth of gold

[pine imp]

oh thats like a massive gap

[swift tree]

Yes, the point is rice accounts cant farm/siphon bound gold

[pine imp]

I mean if you could police those 3 areas sure game would be massively different

[obtuse oyster]

there is a big difference between tradeable - roster - char bound gold

[frail swallow]

Because think back to when there was not a 6 char limit. People full sent like 12+ characters through all the gold earning content + running busses while doing that and they accumulated so much gold.

[tulip charm]

i am sure they are gonna find a way somehow still, net will find a way

[swift tree]

Well, Smilegate is obsessed with inflation

[queen grail]

with no gold limit on raid I'd be making 2mil+ a week

[obtuse oyster]

2 of those can be used to funnel, 1 of those can be funneled to other rosters, and 1 forces you to use it on that specific character

[burnt tree]

good thing they added the gold limit

cant believe some ppl wanted it gone

[worldly hawk]

lost ark isn't an mmo tho...

[fresh flint]

wut is lost ark

[frail swallow]

Those were the people generating infinite gold per week

[swift tree]

…? it literally is

[fresh flint]

if not mmo

[worldly hawk]

no it isn't

[burnt tree]

yup

[tulip charm]

imagine being f2p, don't funnel, and not a 🍚

[obtuse oyster]

why mmo shaped

[slender sky]

i mean nothing would change for them apart from not having to log on altroster 1-7

[worldly hawk]

it's an action adventure hack and slash with mmo features

[pine imp]

I mean just dealing with an economy doesn't sound great tbh

[queen grail]

Yea, you can only imagine since you're a whale

[swift tree]

mmo-arpg but ok

[burnt tree]

[obtuse oyster]

brother it is an mmo

[worldly hawk]

nope it's not

[obtuse oyster]

that's like saying vindictus isn't an mmo

[fresh flint]

[queen grail]

Lost Ark is an mmo 100%

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[burnt tree]

tbh i dont feel loa as an MMO

[obtuse oyster]

it just a different style

[burnt tree]

when i think of an MMO i think of FF14

[pine imp]

I mean these things aren't going to change in lost ark for another long time

[mystic sphinx]

its an mmo without the first m

[wise pasture]

see, even certified 🐳 agrees

[obtuse oyster]

yeah, that's an open-world mmo

[queen grail]

FF14 is just Facebook with Spells

[worldly hawk]

lost ark isn't a classic mmo

[frail swallow]

MMORPGs as a genre have evolved

[burnt tree]

LOA is RAIDMO

[tulip charm]

why i think of mmo i think of runescape played by 90% venezeulans

[worldly hawk]

this ^

everything is solo except raids

it's not an mmo

[fresh flint]

its an mmo

[obtuse oyster]

??

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/venezuela-latino-latam-scream-if-you-love-venezuela-love-gif-8357845834802173824

[swift tree]

mmo just means persistent online with multiple online players at any point on time

[obtuse oyster]

are we just gonna ignore the entirety of the first two years

[burnt tree]

any attempt at expanding the games scope is met with "Why not another raid?"

[mystic sphinx]

that doesnt make the game not mmo

[fresh flint]

yes

[obtuse oyster]

of everyone doing sea content and sea island

[queen grail]

Damn, sounds like lost ark

[obtuse oyster]

area chat spamming "where tokki" "where peach island"

[worldly hawk]

no it doesn't

8 isnt really a large number of people

[queen grail]

https://giphy.com/gifs/comedy-tim-and-eric-U7isUDZ6VPWJW

[frail swallow]

You can play WoW almost entirely solo these days because of Delves.

[swift tree]

“classic mmo”

you mean an MMORPG, and that lends more to an RPG aesthetic not the MMO part

[fresh flint]

@neon cedar I need nm kaz and nm armoche

But give me 8 mins to

[pine imp]

neh no one is ignoring the first 2 years of lost ark

[tulip charm]

you can play lost ark almost entirely with solo raids now too, wonder if anyone actually plays like that

[pine imp]

its just ppl had to do it

[worldly hawk]

exactly, action rpg hack and slash is a more accurate description

[obtuse oyster]

lemme mooch off that kaz nm run

[queen grail]

[worldly hawk]

[pine imp]

once everyone is done u aren't doing social stuff anymore let alone when ppl drop off so does the MMO aspect

[neon cedar]

I logged off. Too much lost ark for the day

[swift tree]

persistent online spaces make it an MMO. Landscape or “field” being constantly filled with other players

[frail swallow]

I mean...most likely, yes. We have literally had people come into this Discord going "I'll just play that raid when it gets its solo mode" or "I'm just going to do the solo mode raids"

[wise pasture]

is there ver such a thing as too much LOA?

[swift tree]

Yes

See: Net

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[worldly hawk]

yes, yes there is

[mystic sphinx]

so the game is not an mmo because we can do solo raids so lets ignore the fact that sailing co-op and field bosses often see more than 8 ppl that you can see in a group content

or even 16 people if we count behemoth and the like

chaos gates

[swift tree]

literally same reason why Runescape is an MMO but fuck me I guess

[queen grail]

Only if you're weak Burning out means you didn't have enough wood

[burnt tree]

uwu

[fresh flint]

No

[mystic sphinx]

yea fuck literally the everyone who has a reasonable argument against "loa isnt an mmo"

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[mystic sphinx]

[obtuse oyster]

[fresh flint]

[mystic sphinx]

wheres white hair...

[pine imp]

LOA is more like a coop raid simulator

[queen grail]

https://giphy.com/gifs/denzel-washington-my-man-Jpv9Siby42bD9gDxH9

[burnt tree]

i wanted to spice things up

[mystic sphinx]

owo

[fresh flint]

No

[worldly hawk]

yes

wdym no

[wise pasture]

[fresh flint]

No

[slow saddle]

yesnt

[wise pasture]

there is never enough

[slender sky]

you leave your homie hanging like that

hashtag free chris

[swift tree]

Don’t worry when I log on, I’ll cut Braden down from the hanging tree

[slender sky]

i think it will be chris on the hanging tree when he has to endure partyfinder alone

[swift tree]

ngl i misread messages

[wise pasture]

[slender sky]

stoopidbara

[burnt tree]

plus black hair look better with red wings

[lilac frigate]

how do I find a sugar daddy/mommy who finances my valk to go from 1725 to 1730 and my two 1705 to 1710?

[mystic sphinx]

need wing customization

[swift tree]

@neon cedar get back online so I can have you forfeit trade duels?

[burnt tree]

its inevitable atp

[obtuse oyster]

real

[burnt tree]

they will add them eventually

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/card-flip-swipe-pay-wut-checkout-gif-11170560

[swift tree]

transform skins prob

[lilac frigate]

insufficient balance

[mystic sphinx]

i'd go as far as finding a j*b to get my wings customized

[burnt tree]

one of my friends on WWM was gifted 18.000 beads from his ingame wife as a wedding gift , 18k beads are worth over 200 bucks

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/punching-punch-punch-wall-punched-the-wall-hole-in-wall-gif-15401058

[queen grail]

[mystic sphinx]

what did HE gift

[burnt tree]

nothing lmao

[pine imp]

prob nothing

[mystic sphinx]

not a happy marriage

BeidouKek_

[burnt tree]

hes poor, shes rich

[frail swallow]

Wife got the husband beads.

[wise pasture]

[slender sky]

im sure theres some spicy google docs with drama coming out of that game

[burnt tree]

i usually call them pearls, but they are beads actually

[mystic sphinx]

i had a rich husband in ffxiv gifting me everything i ever wanted

TexasCheer

[burnt tree]

nahh people avoid anyone who wants an "RP Marriage"

[neon cedar]

I think I'm going to need to buy the last level 6 gem I need If I want my final 8 for Serca

Not gonna get it by doing no dailies

[swift tree]

husband probably deep cleaned whole apartment/house

hopefully

[burnt tree]

Shes chinese i think

ezpz rich

[swift tree]

then made good meal

[slender sky]

[wise pasture]

slacker

[burnt tree]

meanwhile how i spend my time in WWM

[lilac frigate]

time to do my solo gold raids

[mystic sphinx]

based photo mode enjoyer

[lilac frigate]

its 14 solo raids if I dont do act 1 hm lol

[mystic sphinx]

of course thats my search bar when i type literally anything

[burnt tree]

you can upload tiktok dances and your character can perform them

theres ppl dancing to Aespa and other Kpop dances

[wise pasture]

[mystic sphinx]

why is that a thing KEK

[burnt tree]

also poses, u can upload any pose from a game or person and ur character will perform it

[mystic sphinx]

is this the work of AI?

[burnt tree]

yeah

[slender sky]

brb logging off lost ark i have urgent business to attend

[mystic sphinx]

man

and theres nvidia doing bullshit with dlss5

[burnt tree]

well yeah

[mystic sphinx]

why cant they use AI like that

[burnt tree]

WWM already figured how to best use AI

[frail swallow]

No, they actually have this whole team that scans their submission feeds all 24 hours of a day and they code it into the game all within a few seconds

[burnt tree]

kek

[slender sky]

toxic mod

[mystic sphinx]

can we ban this green name

[burnt tree]

he used common sense aggressively

[mystic sphinx]

hes kinda rude

[frail swallow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/dazn-usa-smirk-usyk-alexander-EqxIZtsi2fVnWvmLpv

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/sausagefest-herve-sausage-nod-yes-gif-25931932

[mystic sphinx]

give him the cat phrolova treatment

[burnt tree]

oh yh i may be getting fiber tomorrow

[frail swallow]

I wish I lived in an area that had fiber internet as an option...

[wise pasture]

you guys get internet?

[burnt tree]

i live in the outskirts, the last place theyd install it, but they got so many complaints over it, they had to

[mystic sphinx]

1 gigs a sec?

[pine imp]

idc about fiber as long as my internet is just stable

[burnt tree]

much less

[frail swallow]

Ha

[mystic sphinx]

how much

[burnt tree]

ill jump from 7mbps to 400 or so

[mystic sphinx]

i think thats hyper or somethng

dunno exactly what theyre called

[burnt tree]

but next week im also moving back tothe island

so ill only enjoy it 5 days

[mystic sphinx]

TexasCheer

madgeTime

[burnt tree]

my internet is stable but too slow

[frail swallow]

Mine will have moments of instability, just randomly

I'll get a random spike in latency

[burnt tree]

on the island last year i hit 700k ms

[mystic sphinx]

i have a giga stable 1000mb/s that only gets instability during area based maintenances

its nice not having random internet cutouts

[pine imp]

same

[burnt tree]

the internet on the island is fast, but VERY unstable

as is electricity

[mystic sphinx]

and my isp is where i live too

2 ping BeidouKek_

[burnt tree]

hoping they did some progresses the last 6 months

[tulip charm]

make it into a kickstarter like ashes of creation

make some free money for the next 10 years

[mystic sphinx]

[frail swallow]

I really hope this teaches the MMORPG community to just...finally stop trusting crowd funded MMORPG projects

[burnt tree]

we both know it wont

[fresh flint]

What, Ashes?

[frail swallow]

Its one thing to be optimistic. At this point though its just pure, blind, cope.

[tulip charm]

doubt, its worked 500 times before already, it will work the 501 time

[burnt tree]

lived up to its name, turned to ashes in its creation

[fresh flint]

AoC was a cosmic joke. Loved watching it burn to the ground in Discord.

[lilac frigate]

the next one is gonna be different

[mystic sphinx]

i only remember it by pirate software being an asshole in it

more than the scam

[tulip charm]

[frail swallow]

Steven Sharif was an Archeage whale. That should have been a red flag to literally everyone and it wasn't.

[swift tree]

Fix existing MMO franchise?
Take a decade to build a new one from scratch and flop on arrival?

[burnt tree]

half the team was like former NCWest employees oml

[swift tree]

you mean like Amazon Games was founded by the people that killed Command & Conquest and Sony Online?

[burnt tree]

i suppose

[tulip charm]

i am not sure what archeage is

[mystic sphinx]

wasnt he known for shady business practices in web and people freaked out when they found out he was the person behind the company or something

[burnt tree]

used to be a game

[frail swallow]

MMORPG, sandbox, PvP focused, pay2win

[frail swallow]

He had done some stuff like that previously, yes.

"Allegedly"

[fresh flint]

time for some Mayhem

[mortal burrow]

lemme join

owo

[lilac frigate]

I like how people use that just so they dont get sued

[burnt tree]

if cheetahs are the fastest in the animal kingdom, then why are we measuring our cars in horsepower?

[lilac frigate]

because people used horses for carriages and not cheetahs?

[slender sky]

ty4invite

[fresh flint]

in one atm

[mystic sphinx]

let him cook

[fresh flint]

sir you dont play league

[burnt tree]

if mosquitos can fly, then why cant flies mosquito

[slender sky]

ill have you know i had a mean ezreal and vayne back in the day (in plat)

https://imgur.com/a/VNjjVcI

[fresh flint]

Yeah...in season 1 right?

[swift tree]

because it was not used for speed, horses were used for pull-strength

[fresh flint]

[slender sky]

not quite but close

[mystic sphinx]

if there are 365 days in a year, how can 8.3 billion people have a birthday

[fresh flint]

then download it

and play

on na

[wise pasture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1196211170693099620/1339884690831573034/gems_pwease_kujirawr.gif

[lilac frigate]

because flies are inclusive but mosquitos arent

[worldly hawk]

play on EU

EU is better than NA anyways

[fresh flint]

no thanks

[swift tree]

... they do. its when they're just a little guy

[slender sky]

last time i logged in was when they merged all riot games into 1 client

[swift tree]

... mosquito is just "little fly"

[fresh flint]

that wasnt too long ago

[swift tree]

._.

[wintry depot]

into 1 *dogshit client

[mystic sphinx]

does that mean you get the bullshit vanguard without having valorant?

[slender sky]

im pretty sure you do

[mystic sphinx]

bruh

[wintry depot]

vanguard is for league too

since a while

[mystic sphinx]

it wasnt before

[wintry depot]

yeah

[mystic sphinx]

such a dogshit anti cheat

[wintry depot]

but they made it for league too

a while ago

[pine imp]

I mean whats the best anti cheat you guys wouldn't complain about

[wise pasture]

league sucks anyway

[lilac frigate]

ones that doesnt want kernel access and doesnt try to wrestle control of your device

[mystic sphinx]

^

[wintry depot]

does that even exist

[pine imp]

ok name one

[burnt tree]

if body builders arent allowed to use drugs, then why beauty contests allow make up?

[slender sky]

dunno what it is with companies and shitifying their clients. call of duty also went that route and put all their games and modes into 1 convoluted client that has a navigation straight out of the 90s

[obtuse oyster]

probably not

[lilac frigate]

they made vanguard. why should I name one? they could have made one

[wise pasture]

noone would watch them otherwise

[burnt tree]

untrue, theres so many baddies without make up

[wintry depot]

like me frfr

[pine imp]

imagine complaining about a game that tries to prevent cheaters

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[obtuse oyster]

drugs let you achieve things that may not be physically possible as a natty unless the genetic stars align

[mortal burrow]

isnt EAC a kernel level too?

[lilac frigate]

thats a downright horrible counter

[obtuse oyster]

make up just enhances what is already there

[pine imp]

it isn't

[mystic sphinx]

do that without holding my pc hostage

[lilac frigate]

it is because you imply I dont want anything done against cheaters

[slender sky]

not for long at least, theres prob more money to be made from cheats so the skilled ppl rather go that route

[lilac frigate]

its just that I disagree with the methods

[pine imp]

but you agree with methods on how cheats work?

[mystic sphinx]

why does an anticheat require to be activated despite not playing the game it is made for?

[pine imp]

the fk

[frail swallow]

Kernel level anti-cheat is, to be fair, an unfortunate solution companies have against it.

That does not make it ideal.

[swift tree]

makeup is more like creatine/supplements vs plastic surgery tbh

[wintry depot]

eh, debatable XD

[pine imp]

doesn't make it ideal but it literally is what it is

[frail swallow]

Thats what Sukudo is saying.

[queen grail]

[swift tree]

makes contour lines out of the blue

[obtuse oyster]

makeup isn't gonna be able to physically change things, like bara said

[wintry depot]

those chinese videos on makeup were impressive

[mystic sphinx]

why can i get banned from valorant by using creative mode in minecraft

[lilac frigate]

sorry that i am always late im raiding

[frail swallow]

They just don't agree with the fact that its kernel level, which is not great.

[swift tree]

main point is that make up doesnt physiologically change your body

[pine imp]

yea but the alternative is you have massive cheaters

and a dead game

[burnt tree]

if seeing is believing, why love is blind?

[lilac frigate]

its like "why do you have that we install cameras into every house? its the best solution we have against x crime"

[obtuse oyster]

cause we see with the heart and not our eyes

[burnt tree]

damn

[wintry depot]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2X0PL2tlS94 wtf is this

[slender sky]

it is. albeit less obnoxious than vanguard at least where you have to go out of your way to enable stuff in bios and perform a raindance to make it not burp out errors

[frail swallow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/75ZaxapnyMp2w

[pine imp]

there is no el salvador solution to cheaters if not we would have it already

[swift tree]

tbh its because love blinds you to anything else, not because you love regardless of looks.
backwards saying

[lilac frigate]

its called vanguard

those are the extreme "solutions"

[mystic sphinx]

if it blinds one to anything else, how come people cheat

[pine imp]

cheaters are extreme need extreme solutions seems fair

[lilac frigate]

and the thing is: companies just want to pay the least money for combating cheaters. thats why they resort to these things

[slender sky]

you have massive cheaters regardless AND an obnoxious invasive anticheat on top

[swift tree]

because you can fall out of love, why the same ppl that came up with that phrase had like 4 different kinds
... and because relationships are built on more than just chemistry

[lilac frigate]

you are putting everyone under surveilance for no fucking reason. not to mention the vulnerabilities because of it

[pine imp]

I mean again whats the alternative? dead game?

[obtuse oyster]

people rather cheat then end a relationship because they don't want to be alone, wait till they are securely in a new relationship, or have trained themselves into a toxic way of seeking affection/closeness

[swift tree]

the largest economic power getting its shit together, creating some form of regulatory standard like the EU/Asia that prevents shit like this?

[slow saddle]

never content, never fully vested, never wanting to take the risk of investment due to trauma of being hurt or unable to settle/be content

[swift tree]

sometimes out of safety in some cases :L

[frail swallow]

Isn't cheating/hacking in a video game a felony somewhere...?

[pine imp]

you telling me ppl in CN don't cheat in their games

or in EU

is it a felony somewhere? cos seems pretty weirdge

[mystic sphinx]

breaking a heart to not be heartbroken?

[obtuse oyster]

South Korea?

[swift tree]

thanks for misinterpreting what I said :L

[frail swallow]

Yes. That is correct. Just checked.

[frail swallow]

Is a felony in South Korea

[pine imp]

oh so just move to another country and cheat

[obtuse oyster]

yep, selfish behaviour

[swift tree]

Same with checks notes Gambling and Pornography. Hmm, guess that explains Lost Ark

[mystic sphinx]

sometimes im glad i dont go outside ngl

[obtuse oyster]

it's just one of the risk you take with finding your other half

[slow saddle]

theres a concept around humility, shame, principle, and some level of consequences that not everyone is able to grasp

for some, its insanely loose

and if they arent dictating that themselves, they let society do it for them

and if society doesnt do it, it doesnt exist

[swift tree]

some people also never fully grasp that others have full life experiences different and separate from their own

[slow saddle]

therefore bending the rules is a thing, and boundaries arent created

and its important to have those traits or be aware of it imo

things only get worst over time

[pine imp]

at the end of the day if you are using something that isn't yours just deal with it

[lilac frigate]

fucking spend on actually catching cheaters. log the stuff that happens server side and some client side things. like theres things like snapping in fps etc. This whole "you either accept losing your pc or you get a game infested with cheaters" is just a false premise to me

[slow saddle]

thats pmuch why i feel everyone needs to be grounded in basic principles

How we experience it and to what extent it impacts it, varies from person to person

It doesnt deter away from whats right vs wrong, good vs bad, etc etc

[obtuse oyster]

They do?

[slow saddle]

i feel like its not hard for them to do it, but the game isnt seemingly the type where they have a dedicate anti-cheat/exploit guy or team

[lilac frigate]

yeah, i bet they do but not enough and just go for something easier

[swift tree]

heaven forbid in this day and age some actual fucking real-person moderation is actually conducted by employees with proper training

[slow saddle]

BDO literally had people develop an entire anti-cheat system and grounded themselves in it with eventually having an employee actually go through reports and all that

[fresh flint]

@worldly hawk did u see the fucking arms they gave the poros???????

[lilac frigate]

no, we need kernel access otherwise the game is dead. havent you learned today?

[mortal burrow]

isnt it also a kernel level?

[slow saddle]

i dont remember but they use xigncode

they used to use EAC and things got bad

so they swapped back

[swift tree]

huh?

[obtuse oyster]

xigncode is kernal

[mortal burrow]

ye i think xigncode3 is kernel level

[fresh flint]

RIOT GAVE POROS ARMS

THEYRE SCARY AF

[slow saddle]

bet, good to know

[mortal burrow]

@fresh flint if u have poro snacks

[pine imp]

no one is going to spend the man power or money to do that

[mortal burrow]

they'll attack you

until you feed them LMAO

[frail swallow]

To be fair kernel level anticheats haven't yet resulted in such a severe outcome, that doesn't change the fact that it is still a potential vulnerability. Automated systems are more feasible than manually addressing all instances of it.

Again I am saying this from a position of yes, its a problem but also reality sucks and this is just what we have to deal with for the foreseeable future. Its like lighting a fire to stop the spread of more fire (which is literally a thing)

[lilac frigate]

see, thats the issue

[mortal burrow]

1 true dmg every hit

[fresh flint]

LMAO

[pine imp]

no one is going to query it constantly and have that shet monitored 24/7 with an insane player base

[lilac frigate]

YET. and tahts only "as far as we know"

[pine imp]

the fk are you on

[mortal burrow]

but it doesnt kill tho

[pine imp]

imagine monitoring data like that

[slow saddle]

also keep in mind, theres a huge diff between actively seeking out cheaters and all that

vs

reviewing submissions that come in

eventually BDO swapped to that model

[obtuse oyster]

unfortunately until the demand disappear the supply will constatnly tinker and find ways to get around anti-cheats

[slow saddle]

im convinced LA is the same

[worldly hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[slow saddle]

no one gives af until you get reported for something and it lands on someone's desk to look at

[pine imp]

I mean yea the cost is insane to even go do a 24/7 monitoring etc

again

deal with it

[slow saddle]

people wonder why the same name they had for 2 years gets a smack to be forced to be changed later

thats enough of a hint imo

[mortal burrow]

dfo just bans any new account made

LMAO

[pine imp]

DFO is fking weird

[frail swallow]

Cheaters and bots. Neither are going to be easily stopped and its a constant battle.

[pine imp]

how many play DFO now like 20 players?

I mean yea cheaters and bots have been a plague since 30+ years ago

[obtuse oyster]

yeah you're hiring x employees at x salary with x hrs a day 4-5 days out the week, just so joe who entire life is just creating cheats and selling them with all the free time in the world is temporarily halted

[pine imp]

I mean yea cheaters make hella money selling them

companies lose money fixing it

[slow saddle]

pmuch why games just out of the box with things like EAC and call it a day, leave the rest to reports

[frail swallow]

Botters too. The people who distribute these things aren't just like some single random dude, they have entire operations of people.

[slow saddle]

helps funnel things in the end

like people also say how they never do things about botters but like at the same time, if you see them, you should report them

the system sucks but thats how we have to go about it

and how long it takes for it to lands on someones desk to deal with

we'll never know

[pine imp]

pretty much

[frail swallow]

Not to mention the volume of them daily too

[pine imp]

[frail swallow]

And how they change their approach

[pine imp]

100% i wouldn't want to work on 1000s of reports a day

even if u paid me 200k a year

[obtuse oyster]

when the bots went from spamming gold sites in area chat to spam messaging you to then spam mailing you

[slow saddle]

[pine imp]

thats why its called bot farms

[frail swallow]

People to this day still think "Oh a subscription slows them down" when I could literally log onto WoW right now, look at Trade Chat in a city and its all carry advertisements for dungeons/raids/rated PvP and its all bot scripts.

[pine imp]

the whole cheating/hacking has evolved massively its insane

[obtuse oyster]

yeah it does jack all

they recoup the cost of the barrier easily

[slow saddle]

it def wouldnt slow things down, im sure there are always ways

[pine imp]

RMT so OP subscriptions don't work

[slow saddle]

but it can help deter a bit depending on what it is

like idk, i just like using BDO as the example always

[frail swallow]

For every $15 they spend on some sub, they probably make $50-$100 if not more

[slender sky]

theyre gonna tingle your bunghole when youre asleep

[slow saddle]

you remove all this free trade garbage, mailing system, etc etc, things can be more regulated and easier to manage, even if it still happens

i dont wanna hear the dumbfuckery of "but what if i want to help a friend and send them gold?!"

stfu

[pine imp]

regulated as in you may as well just make crimson desert instead of BDO

oh wait

[tulip charm]

imagine if people that got caught botting for months, maybe years finally got caught and banned because EAC did a slight change, then a few days later they all get unbanned and their strike for botting is completely removed. imagine if any publishers did that

oh wait...

[obtuse oyster]

Honestly hands done best approach to a market is bdo

[slow saddle]

LOL

100%

agreed

[obtuse oyster]

Can't really rmt through and you can't trade p2p

[slow saddle]

like, it still allows free trading within a reasonable range, its adjustable, and the devs intervene when supply/demand becomes an issue

[pine imp]

its legit the weird CN trade system they have

[slow saddle]

other than that, theres literally 0 rmt'ing

[pine imp]

for CoA

but the P2W gap and bussing was just insane

[frail swallow]

THing with BDO though is they still find ways. Also account selling.

[slow saddle]

the only 2 ways it happened on BDO is

1. when payouts were a thing for sailing

[obtuse oyster]

yeah. but account selling happens in every game

[tulip charm]

cn is always like that, imagine mordum raid hm entry is 1700, but their entire playerbase is average 1740s already

[slow saddle]

2. people would market manip on 2 account using green items with massive trade silver differences

[pine imp]

account selling is another thing

[slow saddle]

which btw, for the 2nd one i mentioned

those got easily detected

and smited

[obtuse oyster]

the outrage from seamonster hunting payouts was 10/10

[slow saddle]

the only 2 things that will always exist in literally ANY game no matter how much you clamp down is

1. piloting
2. Account selling

the only way account buying/selling could ever be locked down is if it accounts get tied to your personal info

[tulip charm]

there is nothing to do in the game, no dailies till the 15th, nothing to do!

[slow saddle]

go 100% something in the game

[supple surge]

go 100% mokoko seeds then.

[lilac frigate]

tbf, my friend did help me out and I did give him the stuff back in lost ark

[slow saddle]

the irony of LA for me is, even if i finish all my weekly stuff, i rather play another game than do any horizontal stuff (its just not as entertaining for me)

i did start the music box stuff tho lol

[swift tree]

go get yearning soul

[pine imp]

I wonder why companies don't do that

[slow saddle]

if they had strict data protection policies in place or gave it to a reputable security company, maybe

but thats too expensive

[pine imp]

that prob also goes into territories of net neutrality

[pine imp]

all that stuff opens a can of worms noone wants

[frail swallow]

The US would have an explosive tantrum over something like that.

[pine imp]

1000%

[slow saddle]

when i used to make big purchases with BDO, i had to send them my ID to terminal3 or whatever

[pine imp]

thats why it will never happen and it is they way it is

[frail swallow]

Save for, y'know, the fact that your phone number, SSN, etc are absolutely already passed around like hot cakes for like 5 cents as a part of a data bundle some company is selling to another company for ad targetting.

[slow saddle]

i already chalked it up that everyones info is already out there

people yap too much about security but that joint is already packaged and shipped

you'd have to be insanely off the grid, with your info being super locked down and all that

to have like <1% of your info being out there

[tulip charm]

soon they gonna post more kai cenat coin ads here

[frail swallow]

Yeah, concerns over that are long, long gone. It has happened already.

[slow saddle]

my fav is the

[frail swallow]

Its not a "what if" or "when" it just...its been done. Gave your SSN to verify identity for insurance? Phone number as well? The insurance companies have ad departments and people who use your data and info to target offers and other things at you.

[slow saddle]

haveibeenpwned site

[swift tree]

[slow saddle]

[worldly hawk]

good thing that i change my password frequently

[tulip charm]

what site is this? gonna go take a look

[fresh flint]

[slow saddle]

haveibeenpwned

you can check your email OR a password

[swift tree]

[slow saddle]

LMAO that crunchyroll breach appeared

that one from 1-2 weeks ago

[fresh flint]

LMAO

UMMMMM

[obtuse oyster]

time to update

[swift tree]

first major one is Facepunch for me

[worldly hawk]

you should REALLY change your password

[slow saddle]

get a new password buddy lol

[worldly hawk]

mine is twitter

in 2021

[fresh flint]

It's an old passwrod

xD

i dont uyse it anymore

[worldly hawk]

[vagrant cradle]

[worldly hawk]

my really old password is still safe

[worldly hawk]

imma kiss you on the mouth

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mom-mama-mother-lick-gif-13059778370190649168

[fresh flint]

CR in first place

[tulip charm]

[fresh flint]

Oh, no theyre not

[swift tree]

none of my passwords show (they aren't indexable)

[wintry depot]

Same