#lost-ark-discussions
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and now more bards i see are using soundshock
so yeah
not even close
i do kaz on 5 artists, no one ever told me to go vph
Then u dont care about urself, u can shield urself
i mean if the fire debuff explodes
doesnt it spread to others?
WHY TF THERES A METER UPDATE RN
no
Why would u be close to some1 
i thought it did
U just dont want to be popped by 2 explosions, just urs is fine for ur hopper shield
i did giga stagger in this armoche run btw
you can guess which class is 4.6 and which is 5.1
yeah i thought valk had decent stagger with ark grid
Oh yeah ig grid buffed jt
and didnt they just buff it too?
Inforgor
Only dps valk
this time i had decent
and the bard had less than me
why?
because they didnt run sh
just sh
now this bard had more than me
and guess what they ran
ww grenade
xdddd
but eyah like

even bard has better stagger than artist now
oh wtf i thought they did
i checked my bard im doing like 8-12k stagger on armoche usually
did giga stagger this time
yeah it depends your group
and how long the boss is alive
U can do more stagger if u have arti in party #stagger buff
ye checks out
o ye i used overwhelm on orchids just in case for sac
b/c i wasnt sure how lenient it was so i just decided to be safe than sorry
not your fucking job
your stag is dogshit already
just tell everyone to go ww
sac got giga nerfed now
way less stagger required
Did they even use darks?
Wtf less than 10k stagger should be crime
oh yeah either meter is wrong or i got the buff deletion bug on my SE in duo guardian just now
i have 84% crit by myself and didnt crit with flashorb
ye
could it have fallen?
g1 kaz
dont be scared
who df did
gl was princess

hahahahaha
nvm im stupid, flash orb has the same icon as adrenaline crit enhancement it actually ran out during the skill between hits
thats 2-2-2 ark grid right?
im playing 3-3-3 but im not happy when i cant fit entire rotation on short windows sometimes
but for prolonged DPSing it feels great
fa
ah

fund me pls
no
i tried
which group?
OH ISH
last night
i saw ive
new tour dates
they come in my city







3rd kpop group coming here this year
GIGA
im thinking about eventually making a 2nd GK for hit master
3am ๐
Go sleep
ya soon
fell asleep after work
and woke up at 7pm xD
this 3h is fking me up right now haha
Work till midnight then collapse ez
xD
okay game is also telling me quit for today and try to sleep

btw lmk if you're doing any more armoche nms @fresh flint
im not, im about to sleep tbh
plus i only have 1 more
on my ass sorc
ight
scammed
surely 9-9 to compensate
Stone good wtf u mean

stones are scamming me
im playing for 4 years and i have a single 9-7 and i'd still take the fkn stones
one of the few things i dont have luck with
ayayaaaaa
what the
are u still gonna tap with soft reset soon?
shes only at 20 rn
i wanted a little more but
i think ill just wait and do it after i reset
slowly growing ratties
my gold is gonna implode with soft reset

Same fam
plan is full 1770 after week 3
6 nightmares will be more comfy with a bit of extra defense and dmg
I guess
also +19 isnt too far gotta do that eventually anyways
might as well use the millions of bound mats i have
i guess i might stop at 1760 if i run out of juice/fusions
but i got everything full bound so no point in waiting
Ill be 1765 post transfer so idrc about honing lmao
also playing very efficiently
Alien kitty


@worldly hawk
Streaming what
hades II
Pog love hades
I sneak into her streams sometimes
i think she said she's streaming more often
Did you win a sub
i think it can be offline people too
tho
a friend of mine got it
when they werent watching
Yea I got a gift sub earlier today in a random stream
Cauttys
when i go into his stream sometimes
he goes crazy\
LMAO
or i mean whenever i visit, he's unhinged
I watch Cauttys sometimes. But he's on marathon rn and I don't care for marathon
@fresh flint
Did you see the TFT server owner got banned from Poe? 
yes
everything
I was watching his crashout on Reddit that shit was funny
nah nah
he is giga crashing out atm because he got caught, and is threating to delete the discord (700k members)
What kind of UDPS does serca Nightmare need? And are there gates we currently play with similar uptime that can be used as a gauge for it?
as for uptime, theres large windows of trixion if you stagger correctly, but otherwise its probably like act 4 g2(?)
Ok like act 4 G2 is exactly what I needed to know. Thanks.
Dionysus is known for being fruity (both meanings)
if you can do 700-750m on armoche you are good for serca (to clear if all mechs are executed properly and not farming incap)
if you are at 600-650m you will need 2 rumbles to clear without long enrage fighting
800m+ is comfy clear if nothing goes majorly wrong and rumbles is clean
slightly adjust these numbers up or down based on personal judgement if there are factors you wanna consider (overly weak/strong sup, low/high darks, no atros used cause its HW, bad syn etc)
Thanks alot that really helps.
also keep in mind enrage doesnt heal, so if you can manage to hold hypers or stay alive in enrage you might be able to do with a bit lower
how are you doing braden
good call
not great not terrible
Make them for me
too much work
guys, are we getting ark grid progression discount on Serka's release or no?
Kr doesn't have any ark grid nerfs yet afaik
just wait for it bro, don't worry, it will come, just like it did elixirs
(in 2 more years)
Yes/No, QoL will be coming with it but not necessarily Ark Grid.
Cores will be easier to get with 3 raids dropping them.
They get boosted with Abyss Dungeon in June
good morning takkinator


fast!!
as always
I wanted to do a run on offroster for act 4 and got random dude whispering me to not help the guy cause he denied him


So many theoz
now there was a speedrun for mordum 1702 breaker with 1500cp and locks the lobby to 1715 ilvl...
you cant make this shit up
Sounds like your average lost ark lobby

i want to have 1800ish+ on 1700 to not get gatekept prob and actually be able to clear
rightge?
Yes and no
1800 gets you gatekept from a kayangel wing run
Good morning love
gm darling
dunno just making shit up im hungry
Its 6am
I gatekeep 2.5-3k in mordoom depending on mood
I do 3k+ as bare minimum for speedruns unless we are getting some friend who is below, then it is just hw
and if they have 6s or empty cores, they can go fk themselves
no matter their cp
timezones takki

Hi feryn
"today"
Ugh I hate to work in the morning
does hating mornings itself work?
No

for Mordum? oof
i mean, it is a speedrun
nvm

sea of whales
ye, look at my poor zerk
Hi, for what is the new right bar as DPs Pala Build, it fills with blue skills, but what to do if it is full???
@swift tree

Turn Z on -> build sword stacks (x20) + judgement stacks (x3)
Blue bar is sword stacks, the wings at the top of the bar is judgement stacks from pressing X button
You exit Z mode when you want to cash it all out and it launches an attach on the boss
yeah it's a hard cutoff of 2k for me for mordum
for alts
ideally higher though but 2k is as low as i'll allow
ty
dps paladin guide = play something else loser




Not my nose




@charred void found your alt
what a wonderful drink

i pray theres behe lobbies

ive seen some earlier, but they take forever to fill
loser


5m silver

run your dailies then
The shark one

only need these
Im not fayten

I only need those + Drex/Krath
I need a bunch of the new carda still
๐ณ
Lots for support an a few for lightnigh
opening card packs as your only decent option in Tier 3 *Nether gave giga legendary cards
Only ones im not doing are the 1640 rattas because i cba
Only run rested guardians
oof
depending on class right one might just be better anyways
the way bracelet cp is calculated is kinda fucky
go figure
Because wp line is inflated cp
Its not real
If you want to know which one actually increases your dmg, you need to calc it
Value of wp decreases the more you hone
And depending on the support
dont sit on ur chargers guys
does it matter if i do field boss with 1640 or 1700 for rewards?
yes iirc

Those lightning cables are more delicate than a stale nacho chip
No

It's 9k power added to classes with over 100ks
And crit damage is proportionate with +%s
but for some reason cp calculates WP as higher
because they take it for low lvl chars
probably
like 1580 or something most likely
they put it on starting bracelets, probably why its tuned so high as well
tf is this purple key
but thats just straight up wrong
the bracelet is calculated into your base stats
which serves as the base multiplier for all cp
so any % gain on that stat is actually accurate
bracelets itself are calculated completely wrong
which is why its the most "real" cp of all the lines
the other lines are just estimate multipliers
but weapon power and main stat is not
๐ซ
the point is that WP is still much higher than it should otherwise be
even with its effect on base stats

u gain cp, but not DMG per say of that value 
correct
Main stats Str/Dex/Will would be strong too in that logic- but they are not as boosted
I know.
@undone summit i love you
I uh..I uhh... so how about that local sports team?
the higher ur item level goes the less it inflates you, theres a info line in the bracelet sheet
but this is the bracelet sheets damage calculation no
uwuowo (which i assume takes the ingame one) calculates it into your base stats
which is the base for the base attack power modifier which is taken as the base number for all cp calculation
yea, has nothing to do with cp
well yeah but we talkin whether the cp is real or fake or not
wym fake
and if anything the base stat (which does not rely on an estimate not taking your other stats into account) is the most correct one
cp is real, but dmg increase of ur cp will be lower
not real/fake just some parts have different weighting
cp just mirrors a complimentary atk base power or whatever you wanna call it
Crushing Fist gives Supports CP but it wouldn't ever give real-world bonus
not as much as the cp would suggest but its definitely not 0
huh no1 said its not 0 or is 0 
at 250ms its already a non starter (Im not gonna be the main counterer) :3
well thats a you problem 
@devout nymph go spread the crushing fist religion
even if you are it will contribute less than single %weapon power line on earrings for example
lets say I do 10 counters(not very realistic, but doable) it would give +8% dmg for your party for 30s
on some of the counters you cant even do dmg properly in kazeros for example
Just use explosive expert
indeed

if you want extra dmg, explosive expert and dark spam is the way
And I recommend this although I love crushing fist and all the fun encounters with people I had because of the memes
crushing fist in nice concept but terribly underperforming
u would have to be THE only counter guy and its still not great
exactly
while u dont even upkeep that buff in real % of total dmg
even if they made it 10s instead of 3s i would heavily debate if it is worth
15s and i would consider that
15s would probably be worth unless you need a lot of extra stagger or shield
princess gl would skyrocket by that 
Some raids really got down to 1-2 cycles of dps between cutscenes so I'd debate that "burst dps" has gained higher value i.e atk speed and possibly CF engraving I mean others can throw darks too
im cold
does someone know what's better? high-low or mid-mid?

i don't member
h/l > mid/mid
we wish you a merry xmas and happy new yearrrrr



Always the same people...



well it pushed me to this from top 90% xD
Always the same people...

Some people put more points into LCK than others... its a skill issue.
and only expert as a duplicate yay
classic


lucky for once

never lucky




It's depends on the team and fight encounter, g1 A4 had forced counters plus some real counters
On top of paladin easily farming counters
so you are making zerker, surely
I will crush you
Nobody needs expert mower days anyway

I've done my job I'm leaving

id rather quit
The 1500 days isn't consecutive like the 1000 trophy is
so close
tell that to the people taking 1,5mil+ dmg during the mech with flame at start of kazeros g2

so surely i get it in a week
to make up for the time banned that killed my streak
did fayten stop playing the game or what
no why
what the fuck is going on with fusion prices
ure the only one that quits
people are pre buying
can I expect fusions to go up until serka release?
dayum
thats like
400k gold?
add a 0 and maybe you get close
man i have no motivation to play lost ark this week

ill prob speed run my raids on monday
Found this nice video sharing it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buWqBVeeP2Y
the real math behind gear progression - honing strategy, gold efficiency, and what to prioritize at every item level range.
timestaps
0:00 intro
0:32 gold per 1% damage
2:23 serca recommendations
3:16 honing
4:52 karma
5:40 bracelet
7:05 ark grid
7:59 accessories
9:02 gems
9:51 engravings
10:50 serca recommendations & closing
huge thanks to m...
looks like i wont be able to do Secra NM (nightmare)
xdd
just do it
oh yeah
tought one is 1k energy
xd

does jjk actually end after 12th ep?
no clue i dont watch it since ive finished the manga 
the season might end, but the story certainly wouldnt be finished by then
better keep it short without fillers as long as they keep up the current animation level
ye i suppose thats better
or make it 50ep with OPM s3 animation 
theres not much left on the series anyway
theres the long ass time skip but idk if they will animate it
I finally wanna see the last episodes of bleach: thousand year blood war and how it ends, still have to wait until june 
some recent new chapters

they MIGHT do ova but ... its not something that is worth for any studio if its not massive
well in the time skip yuji and || nobara are 80 years old xD ||
always lucky
"full 8 gems for serka" guess im not doing serka hm
its ok they will nerf it 
and 4,8k-5,1k for nightmare
it is not like serka hm should be a problem
yeah... thats totally gonna be easy for me...
if you want you can make it
Im not gonna say it would be perfect given the time left, but you can
Can we ban this guy?
Oh, easy โก๏ธ assuming you can make good use of the Crit stats.
Cuz that WP line is additive with supports, which CP doesn't account for, meaning it will be less dmg in practice.
Well, this kind of flat WP isn't as inflated.
Normal WP is added to base stats, meaning it's mostly accurate CP to dmg gain. Only thing that doesn't account for is support buffs being additive with STR and WP, reducing their value.
It's the temporary uptime buff WP lines that give WAAAAY inflated CP gain. Like the one with 50+% HP.
Cuz those are handled as a %CP increase by the game, entirely ignoring your current stats.

Support buffs make a big dent in the value of the affected stats tho 
Without support buffs:
With support buffs:
Note how %WP takes a pretty big dive down, along with the common stats.
That's cuz they're all additive to support AP buff.
Hope that answers all your questions @lime stirrup 
(haven't read all the messages back there yet :3 )

Ap buff making up 30% of your ap is just absurd
Somethingsomething supports too strong
it was mostly about CP, but weapon lines arent best cp value to dmg gains of other stats
Proceeds to slap more % buffs into the game in the next 3 patches
The absolute state of this game
The absolute state of this game
Transcendece v2 in new patch
with even more % rng to get % dmg increase
3rd day no internet
i hope this is a horrible nightmare im not able to wake up from
oh no
is that a weapon or
Indeed
looks a bit sad
That sheet looks preeeetty outdated. Also very likely doesn't account for everything (ppl often forget to account for sup buffs being additive AP for example). You should look at a more updated, complete calc that can show the value of just about anything in the game 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_0J7liyM_yw16pyn6TKlF1YGaIt5n_A9hSoLnT3yTUc/
Example Bracelet tab for BlueGL:

Mmmmm numbers
FLOOOOF

you are


my mom is going back in generations
first she started calling me bozo now shes straight up ragebaiting

its ok you'll stop being a bozo once eos hits
its fine you can play lost ark mobile after
When will it hit
thats also a thing with CP
hmmm can I rat at aegir hm
your atk power gets calculated 1:1 for CP but in reality its only around 70% efficient

she is perfect
is she free? 
kind of annoyed that dark rush build got giga buffed so theres a massive gap now

Always the same people...
nice ember
stonks i guess
+12m silver today with off roster ayaya
you out of silver?
well no, but i was -60m last week
Never out of silver

She is me
just trying to farm some astrogems to funnel to the dragon shitter

what the hell
in a span of few hours it spiked
i could buy 3 with this gold earlier
now i cant xD
waiting for books to go cheap
prices going crazy
ppl prepping for seviche maybe
do have a feeling that having 2 casual raids b2b is really gonna make the game bland
The game is already bland
SG has nothing to offer but raid, story continent & class release. Like clockwork over and over
All the other interesting things they've removed
paradise 
and a lot of people hate the story continent stuff
rng whale zone (if u want to get ranks)
it's a negative rather than a positive
Thats true, Ill give them that. Paradise as a whole was a great addition
yeah, not even fun to compete
you gotta beat the rng check or swipe to minimize it
i think the subscription on paradise
is one of the wrost things they could've done to it
no
being able to funnel and buy hell keys/cube
thats strictly not true, if you actually invest time into learning the synergies between the different effects you could easily score high without being a whale in last seasons
was the worse thing they done

the 1 ticke from azena is w/e
is basically out of the competition in the first place
people buying keys
which makes them not care about how it goes
and then getting ely tickets is faaaar worse
first few weeks are pure rng though
then some bozo getting 6/5 runs
sure sure, now get the grasp of ur rng getting 2x ancient items vs whale that has 23tickets and he gets 11 ancients and he can tap to +18 his items
elysian tickets in hell is pure perpetum trash design
can we check the new effects anywhere
yus ๐
ppl are really desperate to buy these low stats
om
crazy how quick they monetized paradise after 1 season
bro wtf
my mom came into my room, saw the cat gif i posted and told me "you cant even be like that cat hes holding a gun" just kill me man
hahahahhaa xD
Rip bozo
awww
huh
why cant you
@Velan AI, but still funny lol
Right, because a cat can lift a shotgun.
they took this cat hunting and he saw how to use a gun and one evening this cat did something like this
Lololol riiiiiiiight
if you were from NA i would believe it
idk how to feel about this -_-, i went from green gk into red gk today
feels awkward asf, now my char moves very very slow, and i am doing less dmg because i am not used to the rotations -_-, i would have stayed on green if i could
@obtuse oyster @wintry depot
G1 Hard Kaz.
but after almost 2 months playing this express event char, the first 2 cores that dropped was 11 red
vs green i dropped nothing, full legendary cores
nice
now the G2 
Got terroristaed into an early grave so ye, nope.
someone placed stun field in middle and I go boom
I mean, considering I died this is higher then I expected 

Nice, free-tap
ilvl wise maybe?, cp? 
ur brain is 1750 
Why would you do that
Is that imdefild
get me in, we surely can clear 
dunno his chars
dont he have 1755 ?
Is it Slng
Bard name
or sing
Or was it Music
His bard is cute i recognize that
Music yeah
huh why u do raid with him tho
classic paekes doesnt want to raid with us
my god im so tired
why is he not pressing ht tho
what the
who is that?

@wintry depot @queen grail almost there to full legendary set on all my bards 
GigaWhale
if I was a gigawhale, I would have full 10s and a full 1740 roster with a 1755 main
ig for a bard thats strong
i mean hes 1752 with 4.4k cp
doing normal
idk if its thats strong
kinda weak
1755 Main is not that bad, just click honing.
i can easly outdps him sooo, not like he rly do hard raids
hes just the "show off" dps bard but in normal raids cuz he know that this doesnt rly work in hard mode
its just the Z bomba, nothing more
yep, and your grid just nerfs your meter gen for w/e reason
and then you have low push and low para immune
in a raid that is all about having para and push
i dont know him tbh. except for that i think his videos are annyoing on youtube cuz he screams so much
xD
hes the "scam" guides guy, with DECENT raid learning runs
anyway, arna streams > defild 
real
arna best
even if she falls asleep in chaos dungeon. but ehr music is great
xD





















I guess my Valk will get to Nightmare too

Just gotta get titlee
