#lost-ark-discussions
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they also don't get that many stones for the same reason
@kind lotus
just because YOU drain your silver because you run hell on 15 chars doesn't mean in the slightest that a new player will
how much silver do you make on a single character per week
do you even know that amount
i also don't drain my silver unless i hone so i really don't get where this is coming from
@fresh flint
i'm not sure after the changes how much it is exactly per char
they should also prob not be cutting accessories from hell if they're bottlenecked by silver
AH/solo mode shop's accessories are more than decent enough until you wanna gamble for higher stats
just like its daddy 
yeah exactly
just don't be a moron
@kind lotus @neon cedar @slender sky
what do they give? neevr bought those chests
BABY ITS PERFECTION GOOD MORNING PEOPLEEEEEE
SHAKE IT BABY
single high + flat lines. it's not great, but if you just need a foot into ancient acc, it's good enough
SHAKIRA SHAKIRA
true ya
as if getting higher stats is cheap/easy
LMAOOOO
I love Shakira sm
i like her piquet diss song xD
it's good enough for many things. a "new player's" way of getting more cp wouldn't be to gamble if they're trying to do it quick

new players cant get quick CP 
they can get it faster than they used to tho
Talking about silver like It's gold
We should be swimming (and used to swim) in silver, not sure why so many people are against what we've always had, plenty of silver around.

it's whatever resources are more readily available though
How do you record a voice note on discord mobile
yeah but if it wasnt for mokoko event none of em would be getting into HMordumb or Narmoche
doesnt matter if it's a silver drain or a gold drain
you get to exercise free will which faucet you open
unless you dont have free will
then 
@fresh flintcrucible 10 on this bitch already lmao shes so op
damn we chose the Kazeros ending
silver is just a dumb system that just fuqs over newer players for no reason, and a nonexistent issue for older players
And as I said, before we used to have no problems, It's just bad game design if people are struggling with silver to this extent, I'm not even talking about myself, I'm the outliner on spending a ton of silver, but you really think everyone that's voicing their opinion about silver struggles are the same?
Or maybe people with 1 billion+ silver are the minorities, because that's an insane amount of silver 
nah i like inheriting his role as guardian of order
Can you Google if there’s a way to make a voice note on discord mobile I’m driving
and any system that fuqs over new players is worthwhile to shit on
"no free will" joke my dense friend
yeah if they rmt, cash shop wont get them far for the cost
prefer deez
i dont
There is a difference, silver is not gold, lol.
We've never had this amount of silver issues and prior everyone had an abundant of silver, and now they lowered the gain and increased the spending, for what?
All it does is nothing to people that have hoarded and unnatural amount of silver and make the game less fun for the rest, forr nothing 
i think ppl choosing to interact with the silver drain system which is pretty much giga gamble have only themselves to blame though. we used to only have honing as a silver drain for the most part. rock cutting isnt even that big of a drain. but hell accessories taking 100k silver per cut is 
Voice message you mean?
I have silver problems but I know it's my own fault
Yes
There i solved your hours long discussion
I want to share Shakira without having to open my camera
-50m silver to get 1 usable accessory vs that 30-50k accessory from auction house
hmmge
You can't on this server cuz they removed permission

Omg bitches
So you're saying, "don't engage with the system that are added" ?
I mean, if you want to play like that, as you said, you have free will and go right ahead.
I personally view that as pretty dense and bad gameplay to basicaly say "No no, you shouldn't engage with these new system".
"I dont have that problem so everyone who does is just bad"
im saying the players have more than enough braincells in this day and age to guesstimate what their income is. that income is not unique to gold

Saying you have silver problems and its the games fault is along the same lines of saying you never have gold cus every time u get to 10k you tap hones
Pretty much this.
"I farmed a billion silver before the sinks so I don't notice it, you guys are just bad" 
Gold and Silver aren't the same.
it's like there's no way they dont know that hell accessories are giga silver draining. and more often than not, it doesnt get you anything useful. so you just gotta allocated the resources accordingly
Why do people even compare this?
It's not even worth having this talk with people that are acting like gold and silver are the same lol.
Im just making an analogy for understanding
other than RMTing, the currency is basically the same. it's just another resource that you decide how you're going to use
They are not the same, you just missed my point 😂
it's just that gold gets different goods

but resource management is not unique to gold
Because it's a bad point, the game has always (until now) been easy to maintain high silver unless you did something insane like Zeal tier Honing that legit only the 0,001% of people did.
you're arguing with aly who spend his silver by re-rolling his gems over and over again on 6 chars for weeks until he ran out
you're basically talking against a wall
Silver shouldn't be a finite resource with no way to farm up and high drain systems, It's just badly designed.
he's so out of touch with reality that you're wasting your time
And you're lying but I didn't expect more from a moron.
yeah, think about who suffers more from this issue that "everyone has"
I rerolled gem's on some char's, not all 6 constantly, and there's a ton more system that drained a LOT more then whatever gem rolling did.
lol.

i do think they should give back the sources of silver after removing lopang and unas. but to say it from a new player's lens is just outright contrived
even rerolling gems on "some chars" is stupid.
Im suffering dw 
only people that have no self control and can't manage their recources have this problem
That's your opinion, and I don't give a flying 🦆
You play the game the way you want to play it, I play it the way I want too, what a shocking revelation.
It's still wild that you think YOU are the baseline for what the average player's silver looks like.
no it's not even an opinion it's an objective observation
Subjective, we are playing a game dear, you might have forgotten that.
I honestly can't get over 75m silver stacked but I'm not here complaining tbh
i'm not a baseline, because my roster isn't average
Or do you also micromanage how people play other games too?
i still don't run out 
yeah you can play the game how you want to, but i can still call you an idiot for your actions when you complain about the consequences of said actions
Point won't change, silver has never been a real scarce resource before nowadays, and It's just bad design.
You guys think what you want, easy to yapp when you sit at 1 billion because you played an insane amount prior.
And you're a moron, so, you know,

don't reroll your gems
lock them

spending tons of silver vs spending no silver
i wonder what i'll use

Lock gem's when you needed them on other alt's to get into raid's while gem's would cost millions of gold vs some silver
wow, ok, this got too far into the realm of stupid, I'm going to go raid Thammy Extreme, ☮️
what alts? you don't need more than lvl 6s and the 5 7s to get into any raid

aaaaaa
disrespect
Grats on Grudge.
Whale fighting with another whale about silver btw
🍿
what ragebait it's a fact, you don't need more than the 5 lvl 7s for any content that'S 1700
isnt ally like 6x 1730
you shouldn't be honing your chars higher that that before you upgrade the gems
Aly has no silver problems don't worry
then you have created a problem that wouldn't be there, if you followed progression
already got one xD 2 in a day would get me banned in here xD
Full 6s with friends
with some of the gold 7s sprinkled in

His point about silver costs is pretty valid but it's basically a non issue for the average player (me)
idk my 1700 alts used to be just that
i do act 4 nm on tuesday with my full lvl 6 gems se xD
i upgraded them over time, and now they have full 7s and are 1710 with around 2.1k cp
just wait for tuesday and the juicer lobbies take whatever xD
I have books to pad my CP
so I'm good for pugging even with 6s kekw
if you hone to 1730 with lvl 6 gems and then complain about silver because you "have to" roll your gems, it's a problem that you have created and it's not the games fault

They're the juicers last alt
i also finish my gold raids on tuesday xD
It kinda is, but a lot of it is really how you manage your resources, which some players just cba to do
way more chill to not rush raids xD
So they pull the lever every time
silver is a resource that shouldnt exist like mana and tp in ffxiv
you could remove it and it would do more good than bad

Any fun class suggestion? I think imma start thinking about my first alt
Not pala pls
evo scouter
What in god's name 
It wasn't a serious suggestion 
Oh, we wiped
Frick.
People failed the Counter 
What do u main
Rn ? Arcanist
play these classes minus gk if you want something different
Another arcanist
Not master yet tho

Dotn even have laptop rn
or play these classes because they are "fun for the majority"
Let be real
imagine playing bard
Reaper represent
I played SE and Slayer
play summoner
Have you ever played league?
Ya, hit me
Not a lot of classes are designed to be combo based
There's usually some rotation figured out
Guess so
Even scouter's QE QR combo is being revamped
But if you're looking for something fluid with low rigidity, it's eso striker
A lot of movement built into the kit while doing dmg

Well lets go with high mobi is the minimum i think
Reaper and re blade are also very much up there
Deathblade is only for people who highrolled the 'tism
Yeah might try Reaper again
I'll die on this hill
Surge is fun but sadly outdated in the current raid design
the new red gl is fun apparently
Cuz the engrave was too expensive i even play her with the !!!!
Isk what it is called
!!!!
Whoever invented that engraving needs shot
Ye
The only supports are Valkyrie paladin bard artist
Everything else is a DPS for both specs
damn
Dunno stuck with family
@fresh flint You did your Thammy eXe this week? :>
Oh u r chinese?
what in the eggplant is going on
ye
Oh ic ic
Super server?
Australia server masters had me like rank 900
Chinese super server masters has me
rank 14000
@fresh flint and my sh is done
Does she have reasonable mobility?
I think valk has some really really small dashes like SSB WD
literally 1-2m dashes..
It's more of a pump and dump class 
even summoner has better mobility
Nono i mean wildspirit
Ye
er
I haven’t done any
Like very average mobility
At least 2 dashes?
Bruh
Oh, you should, on normal I think It's pretty easy no?
I have no clue
Only way to get a clue is to get some reps in 
@sand marsh should teach you fr fr.
What is SSB
I meam she is a tanky sup. I see that coming
Like skill dash or space?
her other spells move her abit but it's not really used for mobility. her reach is quite disgusting
@swift magnet
surely this is 15 Grudge
its a counter skill thats literally a 1.5 meter dash
lmao

it hardly moves you
but its still faster than moving if you're really needing that dash
dude people complaining about silver
yet are rolling 10m silver in accessories per week from hell
lmao
like brother man
but HURR HURR tink about dem new players
tone down the accessory and bracelet spamming
like bitch stfu you dont give a rats ass about new players
and you'll have some silver
And?
System is in the game to be used.
You've played long enough to know that back in T3/T4 start silver has never been an issue, no point making it an issue now.
what are you saying
Damn
like 200/300k per accessory
floor 50 gives you like 30 accessories already
THATS 6M SILVER
unironically this is what these absolute imbeciles are gonna acquire with this
AT THE LOWEST
if you roll a good line and hoping for a high thats another 100k per accessory
that chest is a SILVER GOBBLER
lmao
ppl been crying for 3 years that they want more stuff to spend silver on and now theyre crying we dont have enough silver
like
do you need to be reminded how to breathe or
And then that would have been bad also, why are we defending huge silver sinks with no real silver gains? They legit removed silver farming ways and adde more sink but you pop off.

because... silver literally exists as a resource
if you are going to burn 12m silver a week cutting accessories
you are going to run out
because you are still going to be
HONING
ASTROGEM CUTTING
STONE CUTTING
BRACELET CUTTING
Silver has NEVER been an issue, never.
So to try and frame it like Silver has been this finite resource that you had to be careful with is just being disingenuous and I can't be bothered yapping about this again.
silver literally only became the huge issue it is
I literally dropped 100m silver in a month
touching that chest
hey I got some nice hits
but holy shit
@charred void Did you do all your Gold Raids?
pls sorc you are no sup
I'll let u touch me for 100m silver a month
"hello SG? i tapped all my karma to lvl30 and now im out of gold, you clearly dont give out enough gold"
To be fair, the epic one there is trash too.
heal orb stonks 
she also cut this xD
oh no.


Well you know what they say, shit happens.
It hit @swift magnet 
ya haha never on the chars that need the lines xD
Bard is full SS too now, but, again kinda lackluster upgrades 


Gold =/= Silver, lol.

I don't even like Bard in Paradise.
She's so, wonky.
@slow saddle how do you have spend for 1 mil gold selling costume again?
She got a lot better after they changed T at least.

Like a lot lot better.
clutch
Actually best emote
depends on the outfit
sec
Madlad jumped again.
Man
i wanna play the game

:L

@swift tree
this is not special
special ed: fate ember

It's the best 
right now, for example, the 4th anniv sets are selling between 250-350k (no wep + wep)
So its like 3-4 outfits which is around $60-$80
Fuck this "reward" but ey, for ppl that need card exp I guess It's something.
yus. but not for us xD
Looking for 358,5 Combat Score.
awooga o.O

dragon lady to the elft looking like an echidna cousin
this sounds so wrong xD
damn you went out to check it tysm
or my brain is in pervert mode xD
Good look
LF RAID MATE
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- 25yo (or older)
- Male
- Must know every raid
- VC required
- Call out every mech
- Can be rude to me if I'm being dumb
- Call me a good boy when behaving in raids
cringe
Stole the look from @wintry depot and another person on the Style book and mixed them a bit 
Choke
This egirl champ is pretty fun wtf
janna my beloved
ngl
i kindap refer healers
smh
actually janna is a healer
but meh
@queen grail
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this the new build I play around with
Maybe they removed all their skills from hotbar
Hearts2hearts
Green key better then purple fr
Obviously a 4 dps run
Wha in the cat belly rubs is going on in this chat lately
afk
again he moved around
or has every wrong tripod
*disabled his brain
left or right on spec SE?
yeah he swapped to dps inside the gate

imma crash out

wtf
just market search, delete the middle line and then add a little extra on top for the flat weapon power of whats alrdy on the market
lol
I understand that, I'm not sure how much that "little extra" is, though. Market's empty as fuck
any form of HH has only 3 listings currently, and a total of 5 sales are over 5 days, varying wildly
ofc the panties hit
peak
peak
What
No thanks.
forbidden aya wrote this xD
dont be silly, they're clearly 50

gold gold gold
@fresh flint
Yes?
Maybe
What
i wonder where braden always finds these

The trick is to moderate 50+ channels and yoink the best gifs from everyone in the server
Did you see my v stronk Krathios runs yesterday? 
Yes,
I was half-dead when I looked at the phone again in the morning
But nice one
This is what Giphy gives me.
Giphy... 
I miss Tenor.
This must be some weird EU thing to not have Tenor
No, Tenor is removing its api soon so discord is moving to giphy
I update always
Its just that some people havent gotten the change yet
Its gradual
Live laugh love braden

Don't know then.
I love getting 4 leg from one gate Kaz Hard 
someone has a screen with the new Honing cost with Serca Gear reset?
like what are the cost for 1 tap?
game crashed when i clicked on login reward - love it
My lil GK made it to 3k 
Man these whales
Wtf
guy looks like some concord character

well well well look at this
@astral sparrow we call it stops for today..
you make shitty 5liner, but you dont use spec on that char
hand it over
@neon cedar @wintry depot
Ayoo
🐳

Was less than I thought
only around 45-50k
50k is 50k
No crit on it
Yeppers.
But ey, money is money
Jesus
That was, a run @neon cedar (Kaz G2 Hard)
Is 14 high or low
Ooooo 
you wont have Tenor at june either
its shutting down
Ye, It was a run, I was at only 345mil dps 
I'm at 4,700+ Combat Score tho.
remember when need roc for awakening

I still have some
They got removed. But there were still some on the market when that happened so I scooped a few up
buy high sell low
I know It's Udps, I was just saying how much dps I did 
that must have been really shit run
Almost like I said it was a shit run 

Forgot to hyper in 2-1 also
I rarely hyper in 2-1
since im normally grabbing clashes and doing sid
ye, 2-2 and 2-3 are separate log
they have both, but those charts only look at the 2-2,2-3 one
maybe
not even that
it is like the square in the square hole iq test
that is 2-1 in nutshell 
Is it even worth delaying my 1640 another week so I can adv hone in t3 to +10, im halfway done with it
nice results on the sorc and bard
Seems about standard for pugs 
after the honing nerfs they seem relatively equal
i think the bard just intet because i got g1 mvp with no underlines
chaos gate hehe
my bad bro
🐳
🐳
🐳
🐳
and here Im with my guppy on 3,7k
same
how am i supposed to feel at 3466
I only have 2.7k
i just looked into my old CS account, where i bought skins for 50 bucks back in the day
developing fishy
well those 50 bucks turned into....700 
time to turn that into RC
pog

well it's on another account
so idk if i can transfer funds

ill just wipe my tears with the grudge book i got
imagine having feelings
just send it over lmao
Classic
oh wait, there is rage 
ofc you did, play a fraction get all the luck 
chaos gate is once per char sir, the amount doesnt matter
@dull obsidian i bough a M4A1-S skin for 10€ 6 years ago, that skin alone is now 270€ 

its 3 times for me
i mean whenever its available lmao
yes
oh right ure alt roster-ing
like it makes no sense
Fayten filthy altroster bozo
ive stopped doing islands, they are worthless 
how is a free drop whale
Mister man Sathona has all Backgrounds from F4 shop.
#edmundmcmillen #ridiculon #mewgenics
untrue, im missing the pink one
My bad, missing 1.


You ultra whale 
see 🐳 certified
they are cheap
another one pog
its like 50 bucks every 1-2 months
indeed
send some oil over
oh wait, let me just casually swipe 2000 for lost ark randomly
i just have a good job
it is cheap after all 
and my unemployment program is solid
i participated in a program recently 3 hours per day, got 400 bucks out of it
i only opened my camera for the introduction, and for the rest of it playyed WWM in the background
ye, as construction worker here you can make 200 bucks per hour if you want, doesnt mean most people will
i work 7 days a month max

Nani?
The true steam experience
I was mostly a console gamer sooooo
most of that is from humble bundle
see, im poor
my account was private gg
bro hiding the name likes hes special

HOLY
im special, Im zerker
yeah BerSUCKER
HOLY WHALE
lucksack

@dull obsidian this was the skin i bought btw 
for 10,63€ 
and now 
dawg
not right now, he's napping


Btw, for guidance, what's the expected CP for Serka Nightmare prog?
iirc korea was 4.5k-5k
well, people will look for specific numbers you see
korea prog is harder than us, they dont know the fight preemptively, we do
That's a massive advantage
cp doesnt mean shit if you have 10 minutes floor uptime because you don't know patterns
yeah, but i mean
yes but the dps check is kinda high
that's what people gatekeep for
what arna said
i wouldnt pug that
damn all of that just for 33k gold
does the box also cost like 29k
are there any titles attached to nightmare tho
ofc
yes
first week clear has a title
33k is G2
yes
can just use the frontier titles from hm
total is 54k
dunno doesn't say
Tbh for hte absurd amount of gold i'd need to reach 4.5k cp, might as well use HM week1 frontier title
look at this insane snipe 
Surely people wont be gatekept with those titles
surely
chests cost in hm
no week 1 clear = uninstall
do your own lobby and be the gatekeeper ?
so chests are 1/3 of the gold
This
like usual
people that gatekeep for title aren't the people i wanna play with 
https://lostark.bible/character/CE/Khaichikun any recs to get the most amount of cp for 3.5m (money I will have around mid april)
get 60m paradise power and equip the orb
books
which does like 0.1% of your dmg
gems
9/7 stone from paradise
Does that actually help
well 9/7 is just a gamble, and a trash one
only in inflating your cp
prob get better astrogems
paradise power is a funny concept too
ark grid
also you need to hone a bunch of armor anyway
dont think your bracelet is that good aswell
the 20% on upgrading are like below 3% i stg
most of your 3.5m is going into honing fam
and nightmare is 1740, youre 1735
calculated that
its gonna be only 500-600k
I got 5k blue juices and everything else for average.
Renewing my accs would be around 2.5m (for h/m)
I wonder if that's the way
of it I'd rather buy more books
and give power to roster
books
huge dmg
definitely books
i dont know how much accs gives cp
well it says on the orb anyways
It does 150m? That's decent-ish for a pradise orb no?
on a 20s cd
I mean thats 456m a minute lmao
thats like what 7m dps?
its not horrible
7.6m DPS
its pretty low
I mean thats assuming you're hitting it off cd
as well as landing it
some oiler has a 50m paradise score orb to test
would u rather have the healing orb
yes
or show how much it dispalys
Well I know damn well I wont even reach near 50m paradise power
it dealing the same as one of my filler skills every minute
is not much dmg at all
this is mine

take it slow lmao
so yeah, I guess nightmare wont be available for me xD

These fuckers actually do everything to fomo out people and make them spend hey
glad you realised
hardmode was always oiler bait
There is nothing to fomo by not doing nightmare tbh
now you just get nightmare
My only issue is titles
do you have abyss lord
but the same way I survive without Abyss Lord
get the hm title then lmao
see
I will survive without Nightmare title
title is for gatekeepers
I dont usually make lobbies
I mean yeh I gatekeep hard af
and tbh pugging content on a regular
why not wait 1-2m more instead of wiping once and losing anywhere between 3-20m
normally people w/o DI/CC/AS jail you hard in kaz
that has been my personal experience at least
and due to the nature of g2 in kaz, you dont want any wiping going on
Nightmare doesnt give a significant amount of rewards anyway from HM 
havent really seen any serka gameplay
but i hope its way more enjoyable
on a homework basis
than kaz
you get like 10k more gold, divine protection and necromancy instead of just necromancy and like some more cores
what about the fun of doing hard content
2 more kaz and done
(with gold).
At least now I finally got more silver than gold
@charred void
I assume necromancy is the stuff for hte gear, what is divine protection?

its the relic engravings
Nightmare and HM drop the same amount of gear mats
Nightmare is just for the challange and titles right?
you wont get ur set faster by doing nightmare

uh oh
theres also the broom only from nightmare
did you not watch streamers in 2022 before this game came out

just do NM on alts ezpz
they told us to make 30 chars
and then they said it was a mistake because in the end global isnt like KR
but it was already too late lmao
poor people who played 30 chars and burned out
my roster has 4 gs, 1 1735, 3x at 1710 and just PP'd an arcana on her way to 1710

well u can do NM Serca 
i was one of them 
i made 12
and burned out by ivory tower
i made 6 chars but i played 2 lmao
i was like "this isnt right" 
no, no it's not
you're gonna be in the red for 7+ months
only with bound tapping
erm, new balance in kr
has brought some chances to demonic
i wonder how the class will feel
surely theres some trixion movies out already
well early impressions are very nice
West is mad because they cant elcheapo DI anymore
new skills look cool
cringers probably crash out that their class is now viable BUT IT REQUIRES GEMS
I was always an advocate for Individual Skill Gems for Demonic, as long as that meant more power
they fix your class but ure mad about it, insane
u can literally stay in demonic for a whole minite now
any doc where i can see the change, i got a 1680 demonic lying around
only reason i dont push her further is cause I dont like the state of it rn
also her biggest dmg skill requires 60 stacks to activate, which takes some time, but with all the cutscenes in reclears, you lose the chance to do it
its just a broken class rn
and not in the way its "good"
just doesnt fit well with how raids go
how long does surge stacking take
all that yap when we already know her situation rn
hey, no more gs buff? I quit
very balanced
gg
"Set in Denmark" Speaks Japanese @neon cedar 
13x north kurzan left, fuck it do i just kt for like 150k gold?
Do you need cards?
isnt it a lil fast?
Yo push immunity on SH leaping blow is a huge qol















