last hit does like ALOT of damage
#lost-ark-discussions
worldly hawk
dull obsidian
almost a 2% dmg increase
worldly hawk
fresh flint
fresh flint
Ye
dull obsidian
my hands are oily
fresh flint
Sec
dull obsidian
I'm eating chicken
fresh flint
It was cheapest
dull obsidian
really?
worldly hawk
@dull obsidian i have 119% crit rn when master is stacked once i buy the other H/M for my ring i'll have 120 again
fresh flint
Well it was cheaper a few weeks ago. Now ambush is cheaper than MI after I already finished it
dull obsidian
and you're increasing it by 2.7%
kind lotus
@swift tree ||"kazeros is not antares, its just a creation of regulus. You guys can't fathom the power of gods, kazeros is not even close to being as strong as one of the main seven gods. Maybe we should consider releasing a raid for every god. - Gold River||
dull obsidian
you're literally just the same issue as desert
take off pulverise on put on master
worldly hawk
fresh flint
I see
dull obsidian
other than that...
fresh flint
dull obsidian
Ithink you just need to increase cpms..
worldly hawk
and the number was white last hit didn't even crit 
dull obsidian
you score might go up like 1-3 with just the ark passive change
but everything else relies on you learning the raid
and adjusting your rotation to what the boss is doing
worldly hawk
i don't even know what good asura casts are now with the stamina reset grid
fresh flint
Yeah my cpm is shit. Everything phases too fast
fresh flint
I can’t even parse on kazeros without him going to the next phase
It’s kinda ass
I dunno I’m at work
I think I am slightly above cap. Like very slightly.
dull obsidian
the issue with your build is
you are literally playing 0% downtime
if you aren't matching anywhere near this
this build doesn't work
I think for you
you are running around
let me calc some stuff
fresh flint
I understand that. But in most lobbies with this build. Bosses just move too much or completely phase before I can get a few rotations off
worldly hawk
dull obsidian
according to my math
kind lotus
dull obsidian
9 crit
4-5 Spec
26 Swift
should be your stat in ark passive
looking at how you have a high crit rate brace
you can run 8 crit 5-6 spec 26-27 swift
just find your comfort
Swap Pulverise -> Master
fresh flint
0 stat 3 lines
HAAHAHAH
worldly hawk
this game sucks fat cock
cinder mango
fresh flint
Oh @distant swallow what did you tag me for last night
dull obsidian
also isn't rage spear your slowest skill
why doesn't it have a galewind
its also your top dmg
you need a galewind o nthat
well top dmg red
kind lotus
this game sucks fat cock
same
bleak zinc
dull obsidian
also
holy shit you are running C/J ontop of ALL OF THIS?
bro is negative downtime
fresh flint
holy shit you are running C/J ontop of ALL OF THIS?
LMAO
dull obsidian
I would recommend just slotting more galewinds/QR
jsut to get your shit off faster
C/J is almost never worth it anymore
I can't think of a class that runs CJ other than drizzle aero
dull obsidian
I'm comparing you to the reapers who have high UDPS for their combat
you're just lagging behind in CPM
and soem dmg numbers
but thats because your ark passive is not optimized
elder stratus
How much will it cost aproximatly, the new class on Feb to hone at 1730 week1/2? In G....
dull obsidian
1730?
too much
you're heavily shard gated
like.. really heavily shard gated
you needed to start buying shard packs months ago
elder stratus
Have 1 mil shard and 2.5 mil gold rn
elder stratus
I mean the push event pretty much guarantees 1700 for kinda free
elder stratus
You mean server? Eu
elder stratus
4 1700 1 1720 1 1680
dull obsidian
@fresh flint I'd say with your current build if you wanted to get maybe around 75-80 score
you'd literally need to increase your cpms by like
50-60%
lol
maybe that'll push you to 90
like the really good reapers have about 175-200% your cpms on some skills
kind lotus
grudge
slender sky
How much will it cost aproximatly, the new class on Feb to hone at 1730 week1/2?...
unless youre heavily swiping or hoarded stuff for forever you can forget about that
wise pasture
gimme dark rush cores game, adfguahiughasdhgasuha
worldly hawk
<:FeelsReeMan:397436349420011521> gimme dark rush cores game, adfguahiughasdhgas...
nevah!
wise pasture
burnt tree
<:FeelsReeMan:397436349420011521> gimme dark rush cores game, adfguahiughasdhgas...
buy it slacker
swift tree
<@113554204676685824> ||"kazeros is not antares, its just a creation of regulus....
He's not the same person but a fragment of him.
kind lotus
He's not the same person but a fragment of him.
not at all
just confirmed by gold river
kazeros has nothing to do with antares
wise pasture
burnt tree
https://tenor.com/view/rage-angry-gif-20121278
worldly hawk
welcome to the cube
late portal
burnt tree
the outfit i got costed me 550 euros, but i cant afford a 50k boat
oh my bad
its 140k now
burnt tree
lol
late portal
Some people will take it as political
burnt tree
late portal
burnt tree
oh yeah i saw it
late portal
late portal
Good I deleted it then
late portal
https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636
Great actor
late portal
10/10 his death in BB was also so fitting
Him in the boys this season going to be good
late portal
The real Batman we don’t deserve but need
today
undone summitBOT
late portal
worldly hawk
i want the emotes they have in KR
they are so cool
why can't we have nice things
late portal
torn maple
wind dagger
torn maple
worldly hawk
swift tree
kazeros has nothing to do with antares
He didn’t say that he just confirmed they’re not the same person, “but we can understand that you may see a connection if you are paying attention”
kind lotus
He didn’t say that he just confirmed they’re not the same person, “but we can un...
hmmmmmmmmm
swift tree
hmmmmmmmmm
He’s Haal/Antares Adjacent
Elpon themed
They literally color code everything to do with specific gods and Kazeros is Antares color coded
Just means they’re not same person
Allegedly getting more Haal/Anty answers in Act 2
I mean Brelshaza being Haal themed and her being mentioned is sussy
wintry depot
errant fable
giga tank time
fresh flint
like the really good reapers have about 175-200% your cpms on some skills
What the
burnt tree
I mean Brelshaza being Haal themed and her being mentioned is sussy
so apparently theres a possibility Echidna isnt even Echidna now 
burnt tree
what
burnt tree
burnt tree
We must free her after Serca 
burnt tree
but that doesnt explain the trauma she had in the raid
as the part she experiences her execution isnt actually something the MC sees
theres still hope
broken lava
erhm
burnt tree
ehmr
broken lava
maybe the shadow felt the Trauma, real echidna had?
late portal
at least you're not broke ingame and irl
That could be a possibility
burnt tree
late portal
kind lotus
good enough
swift tree
so apparently theres a possibility Echidna isnt even Echidna now <:deadge:104674...
i.e. not the true Echidna
burnt tree
i.e. not the true Echidna
ngl i was hoping they wouldnt do that due to how popular she is
even if it crossed my mind after rimeria
swift tree
ngl i was hoping they wouldnt do that due to how popular she is
Might have another Brel moment
If Gods go to War with Chaos Primordials…
burnt tree
they will probably get involved
swift tree
Echidna sending Serca to steal a Sirius artifact after sending Darkiel after Gineah’s
That may not have been to do with Kazeros
burnt tree
"Changing LOA's engine to UE5 is a VERY difficult project, but they're working on improving the graphics." so theres a chance 
swift tree
They’ll just keep improving lighting etc
Don’t need to switch engines to adopt new tech, just makes it way easier
late portal
rich irl broke ingame
swift tree
improving models like they did with the sidereals
They’re updating the Shushire npcs with Serca
kind lotus
They’re updating the Shushire npcs with Serca
yeah cuz they look like shit rn
burnt tree
u got geralt looking like a new game
and then theres the rest of the sushire npcs
looking worse than PS1
swift tree
and then theres the rest of the sushire npcs
They update Sian just to…
kind lotus
for real tho
kind lotus
istg
besides improving the looks they gotta improve the performance too
the dlss implementation hopefully does wonders
swift tree
besides improving the looks they gotta improve the performance too
a shit tonne of the performance problems is EAC and AGS’ dogshit backend
burnt tree
Looking at old Azena i get shivers of pain
swift tree
no more eac
nah we’ll still have it
burnt tree
cant wait for the alleged smilegate takeover
at the alleged what
wide stag
alleged = i just made that up
swift tree
Looking at old Azena i get shivers of pain
ngl the mascara on old model
burnt tree
ngl the mascara on old model
i mean she was always hot, but new azena just hits different
kind lotus
at the alleged what
barachan knows more about it
burnt tree
alleged = i just made that up
yeah idk that sounds new to me lol
swift tree
yeah idk that sounds new to me lol
just the weird staff changes on KR’s end
kind lotus
smilegate hiring ppl for global lost ark
burnt tree
i wouldnt call it a take over but sure
kind lotus
swift tree
Unless AGS renegotiated for more creative input (doubt) or other stuff
burnt tree
Unless AGS renegotiated for more creative input (doubt) or other stuff
i dont think AGS would give up lost ark
unless they have new terms if they expand the contract
obtuse oyster
the current ags, yes
not really
swift tree
i dont think AGS would give up lost ark
It’s about AGS investing more involvement- after upper management called the game a failure
obtuse oyster
lost ark already is just a small team of people
obtuse oyster
it prints money compared to a full dev team like new world that was probably running at a loss
burnt tree
they use their own servers, SG developers our version
kind lotus
kind lotus
they definitely use AI now for translation
obtuse oyster
burnt tree
plus lost ark is doing better than TL afaik
swift tree
they use their own servers, SG developers our version
Yeah my doubt is AGS bothering to take on any more than it currently is so I can’t see them negotiating a more involved publishing contract.
Unless they’re asking Smilegate to take on QA/Localization responsibilities
burnt tree
probably
swift tree
they definitely use AI now for translation
they always did
burnt tree
i mean CN already had one of those people
from smilegate working with them
we should have had one since launch not now lmao
swift tree
i mean CN already had one of those people
We did but the guy drove game into ground
He got turfed after Voldis fiasco
kind lotus
what happened in voldis
burnt tree
We did but the guy drove game into ground
Soomin Cuck?
swift tree
what happened in voldis
5 years of honing + systems thrown at Global with zero extra quality of life and half the pacing KR had
obtuse oyster
5 years of honing + systems thrown at Global with zero extra quality of life and...
akkan honing was giga smoge
swift tree
akkan honing was giga smoge
Akkan into Voldis in the same fucking quarter
obtuse oyster
1540 to 1580 just get meh rates from 1580 to 1600
meanwhile you needed 1620 cause purple elixirs were shit
swift tree
Akkan honing AND Elixirs
obtuse oyster
fr
wind dagger
it all started with akkan
the summer I had holiday in Spain, couldn't prog the raid for a couple of weeks
obtuse oyster
it all started with akkan
it was down hill from brel
burnt tree
the summer I had holiday in Spain, couldn't prog the raid for a couple of weeks
and i remember making fun of u over it
good times
swift tree
Brel was the start of the problems but having Hard and Normal paced out helped
swift tree
we dodged thes shit version of kaya
We had griffin for a few months
obtuse oyster
We had griffin for a few months
I'm talking about how the split the ilvls for nm and hm
swift tree
I'm talking about how the split the ilvls for nm and hm
yeah ik
swift tree
1460/1520/1540/1580
swift tree
plus I rather have griffon than tienis
💯
kind lotus
plus I rather have griffon than tienis
100%
obtuse oyster
I can't believe people said the bird flys around to much making it have too much down time
kind lotus
I miss my birdie
obtuse oyster
meanwhile tienis is just tping every 30 secs and can knock you off the stage
swift tree
Their shit argument for deleting griffin was people griefing the shield fragments… when the Hardmode fucking lightning puddles exist
obtuse oyster
Their shit argument for deleting griffin was people griefing the shield fragment...
honestly, community skill issue
it's like taking a bad stagger comp in voldis and being suprised pikachu when you get jailed in g4
swift tree
honestly, community skill issue
KR is always a shining beacon of communal spirit
swift tree
it's like taking a bad stagger comp in voldis and being suprised pikachu when yo...
btw Icee my main is 6/6/6 and my gold earners are all 1/6/5 minimum now
swift tree
Main is 26 for enlightenment and leap
obtuse oyster
so juiced
brittle hawk
Nether floor 100 is 575k gold for 1700 <:kitty_stare:815882856164360212>
Psht
swift tree
since its 5x 115k
brittle hawk
Isn't it like 3 or 4 level 8 gems if you get it
Way better value
But yea nether floor 100 is a hoax
burnt tree
Nether floor 100 is 575k gold for 1700 <:kitty_stare:815882856164360212>
how much is 1730? xd
wide stag
nether floor 100 is also like 10billion gold worth of books if you get lucky
swift tree
tis but a dream
burnt tree
i got to floor 60 or something in nether once and my highest
wide stag
i think my highest nether this season is 13
burnt tree
but if i die i always stop i dont gamba
swift tree
i got to floor 60 or something in nether <a:pensivewobble:620416696083021837> on...
I got to floor 64 xmas day
burnt tree
dam
obtuse oyster
but if i die i always stop i dont gamba
same
burnt tree
i think my highest was 66 or 67
burnt tree
no point in wasting a key
agreed, i got those 3 adrens from stopping at floor 15 on that 1 run lmao
brittle hawk
Wow
obtuse oyster
bruh what weirdo
burnt tree
perhaps if u dont need books n such
obtuse oyster
so ppl saying its not worth stopping is wild
it's just gamba brain
they think not hitting x floor is a waste of a key
burnt tree
it's just gamba brain
morons ngl
obtuse oyster
so stopping at floor 3 for example, isn't worth it caues of the rewards
burnt tree
burnt tree
so stopping at floor 3 for example, isn't worth it caues of the rewards
i got cursed doll from stopping at floor 8
shibaling
swift tree
<a:aminjihmm:1055316872607834174>
Sirius and Gineah races
burnt tree
Sirius and Gineah races
i mean we did hear about the Poshita during kurzan questline
swift tree
Punika, Rowen and Lacramose
swift tree
tl;dr incident at Shushire involves Twilight Order as well as Serca
we chase after that Orba in trailer
burnt tree
probs
swift tree
Sea of Aldebaran page at LOA On had “chasing after the breath of life”
and Vacilio mentioned Sirius
undone summitBOT
uncut dirge
3 weeks
wintry depot
So what was the livestream about except lore
uncut dirge
i need one 3-4
zenith canyon
except lore was LORE
uncut dirge
i've been looking for it for 3 weeks now
for this char
and i still haven't gtot that 3-4 so i can't change builds
ffs
wouldn't it be cool if you could like buy gems off the fucking market
i get a blue, i try to cut it
uncut dirge
first 4 cuts have literally no effect on reds or blues despite them being 50% of the options every time
burnt tree
So what was the livestream about except lore
Lore
also hes working on another lost ark game for console
devout nymph
todays fused astros were +2 blue and +6 greens or something
distant flax
Console
uncut dirge
except you need all those 8 cost greens on the other chars too
i guess i'll just buy the 43k box for a 3rd week in a row then
oh it's fucking distortion
a worthless gem
gg
vagrant cradle
vagrant cradle
just get lucky
devout nymph
if you keep funneling them around you dont really need greens
vagrant cradle
uncut dirge
if you keep funneling them around you dont really need greens
yeah,that way none of my characters get to have astrogems
and then it'll feel fine
devout nymph
jsut finish order ones first and blue ones can be done forever
i dont have any issues with astrogems besides em eating up all the gold, but then again
i also had 3x 40 set with purple elixirs so
a tiny bit biased opinion
if anyhting cores are ass
burnt tree
So nothing important
just say it doesnt interest you. It peaked at 85k views aka time NA sleeps, EU is at work. lmao
Anyway he said UE5 for Lost Ark would be hard, and that UE3 has been revamped to be more like a lost ark engine, and showed some cutscenes of how the game would have looked without the changes SG did to UE3.
uncut dirge
just say it doesnt interest you. It peaked at 85k views aka time NA sleeps, EU i...
well, people thinking UE5 somehow magically improves the looks of the game over UE3 don't really know what they're talking about
wintry depot
just say it doesnt interest you. It peaked at 85k views aka time NA sleeps, EU i...
oh of,c i meant that xD
uncut dirge
a better engine might give you better paintbrushes
wintry depot
nothing important for me
uncut dirge
but you still gotta paint a prettier picture with them
devout nymph
now that some cookery, blowing 15k ticket on a avg 4k cost gem
uncut dirge
now that some cookery, blowing 15k ticket on a avg 4k cost gem
that's great, except i'm looking for a 3-4 or 4-5 gem for 3 weeks
i guess i can just wait another 2 months before i get to play a built i'd actually enjoy
devout nymph
wintry depot
i think what is more annoying than ue3 is eac anyway
devout nymph
thats the cost of fusing 3 greens
uncut dirge
that's great
burnt tree
thought he would announce more things about the game
he revealed that he worked on some narrative related stuff and the finale and songs. But otherwise hes working on that new lost ark game, he set it aside to make sure the lost ark finale would be good, but he still remains a lost ark consultant[ and only involves himself with the PC version not mobile]
vagrant cradle
that's great, except i'm looking for a 3-4 or 4-5 gem for 3 weeks
yeah I need a 3/5 or a 5/5 + ancient core
uncut dirge
IF YOU HAVE GEMS
vagrant cradle
uncut dirge
but you have NO EXTRA SOURCES for gems
is the issue
in KR you just buy them, ezpz
in our version you got nothing
wintry depot
o see tyty
vagrant cradle
🐳
wintry depot
wdym
burnt tree
wdym
he talked about the Shadows the new enemies
and said Echidna is basically dead, a Shadow just uses her body
devout nymph
huge wins on greens
burnt tree
worldly hawk
if ur lucksack
@swift magnet
devout nymph
why would you cut greens
coz math of rosterbound
worldly hawk
but you- i ugh 
devout nymph
it cost avg 590g to fuse
devout nymph
the chance for rosterbound is 50%, so its 1180g per rosterbound gem
zenith canyon
and almost 10k to cuut
FUSED, silver only
devout nymph
rosterboundgem cost ONLY silver
devout nymph
if you fuse 10k worth, thats 20 attempts. in 20 attempts you get on avg 17green outcomes and 3 blue with a rare chance of purple
worldly hawk
if you fuse 10k worth, thats 20 attempts. in 20 attempts you get on avg 17green ...
i fused 3 epics from 3 greens this week
made giga stonks
devout nymph
50% of that is rosterbound and cost only silver, giving that the cost is 4.5k, 6.3k and 8.1k respectively to cut, going for rosterbound is a good deal in my book
and if you are giga desperate you can fuse 9 order as well
but thats some...
covert remnant
I can't look the same way at mommy again😭
worldly hawk
at who
brittle hawk
i fused 3 epics from 3 greens this week
wtf
devout nymph
yeah i hit the 1.something% 3 times
whats the chance of my 1710 paladin doing only nm to hit this
vagrant cradle
wtf
see
if my 1710 alts were getting relic cores
I would be more inclined to cut gems on them
but they dont
uncut dirge
even if you did get relic cores
it doesn't mean anything
because it'll be the wrong cores
distant flax
My 1720 valk has 1 sup relic core, and it’s the blue shield/heal
vagrant cradle
so true
kind lotus
devout nymph
my aero dropped a drizzle relic
so i built drizzle
the week after it dropped a wf relic
so i had to rebuilt
uncut dirge
well, opportunities to get more gems for the week are over on this wildsoul
devout nymph
uncut dirge
so we gotta play ferality still
maybe i should just delete this fucking character then
ferality is so fucking trash
kind lotus
https://youtu.be/VcuWZ5tfHFk?si=Vn-5tReKfMutPn2A @worldly hawk another 가디안나이트 banger
uncut dirge
grats
maybe this char has better luck next week i guess
since i've already got all the gems you can get for the week
devout nymph
i dont even remember how long it took to finish elixirs
devout nymph
but it def took forever as well
celest tiger
uncut dirge
hello
bleak zinc
faint grove
is this how you paradise properly
worldly hawk
vagrant cradle
worldly hawk
bard
vagrant cradle
vagrant cradle
im trying to be better with my cubes
I try to do all the cubes I get during the week instead of letting them gather for weeks and weeks
I still hate doing them though
worldly hawk
I still hate doing them though
that's not even that bad, i had 25+ cubes per char a couuple months ago
vagrant cradle
at that point I wouldnt want to do them just because of the sheer amount that had to be done
neon cedar
Yes. 1 point of pity
worldly hawk
what other pity
uncut dirge
the one that guarantees a relic drop
if you have dropped enough cores and none were relics
wintry depot
is it real
wintry depot
because i got way more cores on my main and didnt get relic
worldly hawk
???
neon cedar
Oh idk. Ive heard thats a thing but Ive yet to see it work out for me
uncut dirge
because i got way more cores on my main and didnt get relic
that's very doubtful
none of my chars have gone 40 legendary cores without getting a relic core
wintry depot
well
uncut dirge
but it's hard to say whether this applies to epics
wintry depot
i can show you my chars
worldly hawk
i've done act 4 HM and kaz every week and i've gotten a relic core week 2 of release
wintry depot
only relic i have is the selector
uncut dirge
you've bought every box
worldly hawk
yes
wintry depot
yes i did
uncut dirge
done every hard mode raid every week (or close to every week)
and didn't get a single relic drop?
worldly hawk
that pity 100% definity doesn't exsist
wintry depot
yep
uncut dirge
not even something like defense?
wintry depot
nop
worldly hawk
nope
nothing
why would they make a double pity
that makes 0 sense
or 2 pitys for the same thing
uncut dirge
and i almost have my 2nd pity
how
uncut dirge
and that's hard mode every week
and bought every box
and opened relic pity box and relic selector?
worldly hawk
yeah
uncut dirge
and you've not done raids this week?
wintry depot
for my second pity
uncut dirge
hmm i wonder if you ended up opening something right before the pity hit or something
no you're both missing boxes
wintry depot
im not
worldly hawk
i'm 100% not
wintry depot
i didnt open the event core
worldly hawk
i run kaz nm*
uncut dirge
you should be at 166
uncut dirge
ah
worldly hawk
uncut dirge
and you did normal something first week
uncut dirge
i meant arna
uncut dirge
i think you forgot to buy some box too, you should be on an uneven number of pity points
fresh flint
I’m not even close to 2nd pity
wintry depot
no i didnt foget
uncut dirge
but you guys do bring up compelling evidence
worldly hawk
as i said i doubt something like that exsist, why would they make a pity for something and then do another pity for the same thing
uncut dirge
well
wintry depot
any boxes
worldly hawk
that just doesn't make sense to me
uncut dirge
we get an even number of boxes
oh, i guess you might've got some uneven number of purple cores
yeah nvm
wintry depot
uncut dirge
as i said i doubt something like that exsist, why would they make a pity for som...
bad luck protection isn't that uncommon tho
worldly hawk
bad luck protection isn't that uncommon tho
well that's what the pity mats are for
uncut dirge
but it's not visible so they might've wanted an extra layer
i personally haven't had any characters that haven't got a relic by that point
even if it's something useless
but if you reach 200 pity points without any relics at all
then tht means it doesn't exist yeah
junior fern
I don’t know how you guys are so close to a second pity if you’ve never gotten a single relic drop. Mathematically that doesn’t add up
uncut dirge
I don’t know how you guys are so close to a second pity if you’ve never gotten a...
it does
if you do hm every week and buy every box
8 leges from kazeros, 4 from armoosh
junior fern
You get 12 cores total per week no?
uncut dirge
so that's 48 points per week
junior fern
right times 6 is how much
uncut dirge
7 weeks = 336 pts
junior fern
288
uncut dirge
it's week 7
worldly hawk
7 weeks
junior fern
It’s been 7 weeks??
worldly hawk
not 6
uncut dirge
anyway week 7 is 336 pts
wintry depot
It’s been 7 weeks??
yes
uncut dirge
+15 from the pity box
junior fern
Oh right it’s been 7
uncut dirge
+4 from the legendary selector
and then another potential +15 from the relic selector we were given, but only applies to one char
so theoretically you could be at 170 pts
uncut dirge
man, people gatekeep like crazy in armoosh
normal no less
lobby is full, we vote to enter
someone goes "is that title?!?!" and one of the supports gets banned
junior fern
gatekeeping normal mode has gotta be the most smooth brain activity
worldly hawk
like if you don't have 1.7k at 1700 you're doing something wrong anyways
junior fern
min req is 1.7k for nm
min req. being 1700 is also a joke as there are ark CP inflated 2000 doing less than my 1800 without any ark grid
uncut dirge
idk, i think it's pretty easy to be below 1700 combat power at 1700
but that assumes you have done zero ark grid
junior fern
ark grid gives too much combat power for how little actual damage it gives
uncut dirge
man
can you give me some free gold too
it's free for you so you wouldn't mind it right
fresh flint
Who here watches stranger things
uncut dirge
imo those level 7 gems are kinda bait
fresh flint
1700 is the bare minimum now
uncut dirge
i mean
junior fern
like it's REALLY easy to reach 1700cp on a 1700
can vouch
uncut dirge
being 1700 by itself means the character is a rat
worldly hawk
if you can't have the cp for the ilvl
uncut dirge
but considering 1700-1710 char median combat power is 1634
worldly hawk
a few 7s and H/- accs should be bare minimm
uncut dirge
and 1690 to 1700 is 1408, i'd say 1700 is still a relatively high bar
fresh flint
being 1700 by itself means the character is a rat
What? Our minimum is literally 1710 for current raid. That is not rat at all.
junior fern
but considering 1700-1710 char median combat power is 1634
The problem is people go to 1700 without the resources to prop up the 1700 ilevel
worldly hawk
but considering 1700-1710 char median combat power is 1634
well yeah but remember that the median gets pulled down by all the alts with 0 investment in them
uncut dirge
The problem is people go to 1700 without the resources to prop up the 1700 ileve...
i don't think that's true at all
fresh flint
That’s why it’s a median
uncut dirge
you really dont need that high combat power for the raids
junior fern
I have a 1690 Scrapper rn with the mats and over 5mill gold to push to 1700. I told myself I wouldn’t push her until AT MINIMUM the enlightenment and leap is done
junior fern
you really dont need that high combat power for the raids
Yes, this is true. I don’t disagree that not every raid needs to be overheated
worldly hawk
yeah there are a couple things you should do before you push a char
junior fern
but you can’t push to 1700 without bare minimum investment and expect people to take you
uncut dirge
I have a 1690 Scrapper rn with the mats and over 5mill gold to push to 1700. I t...
that's fine if you wanna grief yourself
junior fern
that's fine if you wanna grief yourself
uncut dirge
higher raids earn more resources
junior fern
I wanna grief myself because I don’t want to grief other people by bringing a rat 1700 to HM mordum
got it.
worldly hawk
but you can’t push to 1700 without bare minimum investment and expect people to ...
"i invest nothing into my char, and get gatekept from everything" 
junior fern
higher raids earn more resources
I mean yeah? But 90% of the people in that situation that end up pushing get gatekept then bitch
worldly hawk
this ^
junior fern
I’m lucky enough to have a roster to back up this 1690 scrapper. If I wanted to I can buy gems and accessories to prop her up despite not finishing karma
But I don’t want to
lol
if that’s griefing myself then so be it
at least I’m not griefing others
junior fern
I’m pheon poor (i’m not i have over 600 now i just have bad experience with being pheon poor so now im stingy kek)
worldly hawk
I’m pheon poor (i’m not i have over 600 now i just have bad experience with bein...
i feel that i never drop below 200 anymore
rocky sluice
Just make ur own lobby, alot of pugs just dont wanna sidereal that u can 100% get away with less than 1700 cp for it
worldly hawk
well yes that's kinda true
but then like 70% of people that apply are giga rats
so you're stuck in gate 0 for a while
like i've seen 1700s with 1300cp
and not one like 6 or 7
in one raid in one party finder
70% of them were supports
rocky sluice
If ur less than the min req u cant complain if ppl less than min req apply to ur lobby
worldly hawk
true bt that doesn't apply to me personally becase i have no chars that are above 30% of all cp
rocky sluice
But if u feel i wanna do X raid but im being rejected cause I can't reach X cp, literally just make ur own lobby and esp for the latest raids ppl will apply, and honestly character might be rat, but if ppl know the raid, its just an extra 2-3 minutes to the raid for nm
worldly hawk
2.2%, 8.7%, 24,7%, 25.7%, 18.6% and 2,9%
that's the thing tho, in pugs i HAVE to assume the people that are applying are handless
rocky sluice
Thats on u then
worldly hawk
because it's happend so SO many times that i've taken min req cp and it was a jail becauuse people have no hands
worldly hawk
min and or below
rocky sluice
There is no and in that statement
charred void
min and or below
ye don't take this guy to kaz nm
rocky sluice
If even min is bad then ur changing the min
worldly hawk
ye don't take this guy to kaz nm
worldly hawk
If even min is bad then ur changing the min
well what i meant is barely below min req tbh not right ON min
so like 1600cp
charred void
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rocky sluice
Ur flip flopping ur statement alot
worldly hawk
worldly hawk
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1449901246130688124.webp?size=96
stop stealing my stolen emotes you mf
uncut dirge
or that you need (should even?) spend 250k on equipping a 1700 char
instead of using that to hit 1710
uncut dirge
it's a lot of gold
uncut dirge
then why aren't you 1710
worldly hawk
i have a 1720 almost 30
uncut dirge
im talking about all your 1700s
worldly hawk
#1 because i'm saving for a new class
uncut dirge
should be 1710
worldly hawk
and #2 because books
charred void
1704 -> 1710 was only 900k this week
worldly hawk
i'm buying books for my main next
rocky sluice
250k is alot for newer players, but for ppl who have been playing for a while it seems like a w.e
The problem with the game is thay we need new players
worldly hawk
even for a new player it's not that much because paradise
charred void
paradise always such a good argument
"bro just get fusion from paradise" meanwhile my 2 chars not getting fusion for 1 month
rocky sluice
So it depends if the person is a newer for 250k is alot or not
rocky sluice
But lets be honest, its not like 250k is reallt a small amount of gold with all the gold sinks around
queen grail
I GOT MY META ANCIENT
lunar hedge
250k is 2-3 weeks of higher Kazeros raids
worldly hawk
250k is 2-3 weeks of higher Kazeros raids
on 1 char yeah
but someone who can run kaz doesn't only have 1 char
rocky sluice
And if ur new ur prob most likely playing 1 character
worldly hawk
well most likely more than 1
lunar hedge
That's assuming the new players only were playing 1 Char
junior fern
But having more than one 1680+ as a new player is hard
worldly hawk
well yes that's true it costs like 300k total maybe
to get to 1700 with event
like it was giga free
what was karma again per tree?
rocky sluice
So saying oh its only 250k isnt really saying much as evening honing to 1710 costs more than 250k
junior fern
Yeah but a new(er) player typically doesn’t have the foundation to get a second one to 1680-1700 range as easily
lunar hedge
1.1k per karma tap
worldly hawk
it isn't alot because lost ark isn't meant to be played as a sprint
worldly hawk
you're meant to progress gradually over a long period of time
buutu some people treat it like they have to play kaz HM NOW
junior fern
Nothing but that’s not the point lol
charred void
buutu some people treat it like they have to play kaz HM NOW
i will prog kaz hm maybe in the next weeks 
junior fern
People are trying to tell you a new player doesn’t typically have a full roster to farm gold
lunar hedge
worldly hawk
People are trying to tell you a new player doesn’t typically have a full roster ...
yes and i understand that
rocky sluice
It didnt sound like it
worldly hawk
but in the grand scheme of things 250k isn't really alot of gold
kind lotus
MALES
worldly hawk
for a new player it might FEEL like alot
kind lotus
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worldly hawk
worldly hawk
but yeah 250k really isn't alot
lets say from paradise you get once to stage 60 weekly with a blue key
wich isn't that uncommon
you get gold from stage 5/6 once per week
that's 18-27k per week ontop of everything else
IF you get the gold ofc
junior fern
mfw desert trying to tell me getting lucky from paradise (x2) just to get 1/10 — yes one tenth — the amount he’s saying is “not a lot”
worldly hawk
bitch from a 1680 you get like 80k per week
you do that for 3 weeks you have the gold you need for accs and the gems
rocky sluice
Just acc and gems
worldly hawk
and in the next 3 weeks you can do karma
because you're gated by destiny stones anyways
rocky sluice
250k does not get u enough for karma
charred void
don't forget to do elixirs and trans
junior fern
So basically… tell a new player just wait 6-8 weeks before they can play the game with other people
charred void
which also cost a lot of gold
rocky sluice
Yep basically what im hearing
worldly hawk
So basically… tell a new player just wait 6-8 weeks before they can play the gam...
well what else should they do?
rocky sluice
Id drop the game after mokoko if thats whay im hearing
junior fern
So basically… tell a new player just wait 6-8 weeks before they can play the gam...
10+ weeks if you count getting to 1680 in the first place
worldly hawk
pugging just isn't an option
rocky sluice
Yea ut is
worldly hawk
because of GKing
charred void
So basically… tell a new player just wait 6-8 weeks before they can play the gam...
my fresh 1670 3 hours old paladin on na was perfectly fine playing with other players
worldly hawk
well with mokoko event maybe
charred void
idk where you get 6-8 weeks
rocky sluice
Everyone shits on pugs so much, but honestly alot of ppl just remember the bad times
junior fern
idk where you get 6-8 weeks
Follow the conversation
Your fresh 1670 Paladin wasn’t being told to hit 1700 combat power
junior fern
Yeah and Faytens fresh 1670 was probably 1400 combat power or less, we scale your number down based on that
rocky sluice
Amd when i said just make ur own lobby if u cant reach those "min req"
U kept shitting on pugs
Then what other option do they have if they wanna plau those raids???
worldly hawk
because in my personal experience they are jail with below cp req peoples
charred void
Yeah and Faytens fresh 1670 was probably 1400 combat power or less, we scale you...
close
queen grail
I finally broke 4k @charred void @wintry depot @neon cedar 
worldly hawk
Then what other option do they have if they wanna plau those raids???
since they are mokoko they can probably just get bussed for free, wich i also don't like personally but that wouuld be an option
or solo modes
it's just the reality of the game that if you start late you're at the short end of the stick
junior fern
But you’re specifically talking about 1700 ilvl….
rocky sluice
No solo modes or mokoko bus for 1700+ raids, and im saying, if ur under those "min reqs" and tired of GK just make ur own lobby and do sidereals, since alot of pugs just dont wanna do sidereals, and its better than being GK
worldly hawk
No solo modes or mokoko bus for 1700+ raids, and im saying, if ur under those "m...
it could work yeah but you can also spend 20+ minutues in PF just to get jailed i'm not saying it's gonna happen every raid and every week but it's a pretty high possiblity
dull obsidian
I couldnt even clear Mordum HM in my own, took Busses for that. Tried Amurschi HM, No Chance, Not even thinking about Kazeros, even If it might be easier than Kazeros HM, still way too difficult.
Normal Mode should provide Materials aswell
wintry depot
pog gold
safe lark
I couldnt even clear Mordum HM in my own, took Busses for that. Tried Amurschi HM, No Chance, Not even thinking about Kazeros, even If it might be easier than Kazeros HM, still way too difficult.
Normal Mode should provide Materials aswell
charred void
r Mordum HM in my own, took Busses for that. Tried Amurschi HM, No Chance, Not evide Materouldn, Not even thinking about Kazeros, even If it might be easier than Kazeros HM, still way too difficult.
Normal Mode
rocky sluice
it could work yeah but you can also spend 20+ minutues in PF just to get jailed ...
I dont understand why ur trying to beat down other options except SPEND GOLD, GET JUICED, and with that argument ive also seen super giga juiced lobbies get jailed, its also a possibility
dull obsidian
I couldnt even clear Mordum HM in my own, took Busses for that. Tried Amurschi HM, No Chance, Not even thinking about Kazeros, even If it might be easier than Kazeros HM, still way too difficult.
Normal Mode should provide Materials aswell
gilded ember
do we get high crit dmg or high crit rate from dps ring in gold shop? anyone knows?
dull obsidian
c.dmg
wintry depot
do we get high crit dmg or high crit rate from dps ring in gold shop? anyone kno...
pinned in #lost-ark-help
dull obsidian
bro just don't get gatekept
swift magnet
💀
dull obsidian
smh
worldly hawk
I dont understand why ur trying to beat down other options except SPEND GOLD, GE...
Because im speaking from personal experiences, i came back with ignite and GKing has been an issue forever and the only time it wasnt was super bad was with koko events or when my buddies came with their juiced chars and got me into the lobby. The sad reality is to not get gatekept IF you care about MP raiding is juicing your char by minmaxing your gold i still to this day plan my gold spending 3+ months ahead because its just been burned into me
safe lark
Because im speaking from personal experiences, i came back with ignite and GKing has been an issue forever and the only time it wasnt was super bad was with koko events or when my buddies came with their juiced chars and got me into the lobby. The sad reality is to not get gatekept IF you care about MP raiding is juicing your char by minmaxing your gold i still to this day plan my gold spending 3+ months ahead because its just been burned into me