#lost-ark-discussions
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Most ppl running raids in pugs don’t have ppl playing perfectly so the min max is actually just min coz ppl be dying and shit lool
before i was hitting like 40 identity
and buck got buffed to the moon
2 buckshots now
2 stack buck not too bad
pretty good core
swapped to buckshot and noticed a good improvement
Better on sh prob with grid
you dont run soundoholic?
its insane meter
prelude way better imo
more than 3 buckshots
prelude is doodoo
its really not that bad, might sound weird, but the more shitty gems you have, the better soundholic is lol
when you are going to 50 skill cpm
with better gems prelude is better i think
you want SH if you dont want to eat mana food
with 2 stack buckshot soundoholic got way more value
i dont mind not eating mana food
Prelude worse the better gear you have
i just hate the skill lmao
you can hold it down the whole way most of the time now
holding skills are annoying
well imo
prelude is more consistent
and its my 2nd day playing the class
maybe i run soundaholic when im better at it
Sups with a circle aoe buff on ground are cooked when ur party has both head and back attk classes in it and the boss is fat
womwom doesn feel really nice for meter dont get me wrong
but in these pugs.. lol
i gotta run the shield tbh
if u arent confident reactively using dr as bard
dont use wom wom
ur team basically playing without a sup at that point
Just spam Rhapsody and don't hold it for years is like
im half decent at rhapsody. its different than gods decree on paladin
so im adjusting
but i know what patterns hurt already
its a 3 second lingering unlike godsent which is 1 second
Rhapsody is like what 8s CD, 3s+ duration?
well im running level 6 gems om
ye 3s
i forget, paladin is the only support that dosn't need to run heavy armor right?
but in kaz/act 4 im doing ok i think
does valkyrie need heavy armor or no?
well realistically no support needs too
Support propaganda, nobody needs ha
Artist is the only one that would need to in any realistic scenario
It's like advocating for ether predator
yea well realistically no supports needs expert engraving, never need to drop a heal for a 30minute raid and will never get hit either
krappa
yeah u can make an argument for that
cause all of your skills
u have to sniff the boss
otherwise it dont hit
wayyy different than paladin
they brought green pots to hm kaz trying to save gold
When you are tanking literally everything because you want to sit on the boss

Can tank everything isn't same as should
I mean what are you taking HA off for
Gunlancers can tank everything but shield management is a thing
Same as sup just manage HP better
Ha is one of the fake ceiling arguments to bring safety
I mean what are you taking HA off for
as artist/bard
..
Its just a good engraving
Outside of womwom and maybe buckshot you don't need to stay at the boss, unless u run pos
crushing fist 
So kinda fake either
om
if you're moving away from the boss
thats time you could be using skills
HA just keeps you sticking on the boss
you want to be using WOM off cd
highest prio skill outside of AP/Brand
higher cd gems let you ignore AP/Brand longer for more WOM Prio
Would have agreed if Sona didn't exist
No para immune and sticking to the boss
?
Sounds like a pattern to get cancelled more often
if you don't know what will or wont cancel your Sonatina
you aren't playing properly regardless
or its prog
You will agree it's safer to cast Sona slightly away from the boss than directly under him no
if you know what the boss is doing it literally doesn't matter from where you cast it
???
you know the safe spots
if you have to move away from the boss to do that, you're just wasting time
I'll formulate it different
and bard already has low/no mobility, so you're wasting your spacebar to get back into range to use your wom (pos if you're running) and buck
compared to already hugging the boss
There are patterns where you could have casted Sona off CD if you weren't under the boss, since some boss pattern do slightly para pushes in the direct area around him
you don't need to cast sona off cd
its the lowest gauge gen
..
sonatina is the lowest prio skill outside of soundholic and 14c buckshot when brand is up
So you agree there's a downside for sticking to the boss and it's not all upsides, correct
this follows for literally every class in the game
do blades get omega fucked by literally being ontop of the boss 24/7
when they need to cast mael?
db is literally in the boss
if you know what the boss is going to do
you can act accordingly
ayaya would slip 
I'll compare it to blade eating every pattern, which we agree is theoretically higher DPS if used correctly
But nobody wants to deal with that blade outside of a optimized scenario
if you are tanking patterns via push immunity to hit the boss
Or in other words
Casuals running speed run setups for the wrong reasons
why are you using new/shit players for this argument
Because realistically that what happens
we were talking about literal good players
not shitters who are 60 incap 80/80/20
..
more casual players should be running HA anyway
Good players don't need to justify their good results

And that's what I'm trying to point at
There's this range of good use of ha
And bad use of ha
It's good if you use it offensively
It's good if you suck
And what's in between
heavy armor doesnt even do anything if you are above certain point
In a sidenote that's very bard pointed discussion at this point as well
Valks and Pala heal themselves at 0cost more or less
we tested it on both bard and paladin and being at 1740 in kazeros hm was already making use of heavy armor pointless
And artist hopper shield is also hard to chew through
if there was any difference in dmg taken, it was so miniscule it wasnt even visible
So you want to say that playing with or without HA on Bard is the same thing? there is no way.
More interesting is what pattern actually hurts with dr
if you are over ilv of the content by certain amount yes, it is compeltely pointless
if you are on ilvl or have pieces under, it does something
Ok I want to try that next week, I don't believe this is true that it doesn't reduce the damage even if u are above
easiest way we could see all the time was in drex on counters if you took the explosion, friends bard with HA at 1755 took always about double or more the dmg my paladin would
when he was without HA, it was exactly the same
that said it seems to work on world boss or in pvp, but not guardians and raids
we are nothing but dust
always lucky
not me
life core isnt good, but at least it is pity shards
that is true
i looted the bis firepower enhancement relic core, i am NOT switching, despite everybody jumping ship already in the arti channel
cant blame them
well, my pala has 2ancient and 6 relic cores
2 relics came from pity

Out of the 12 chars I play I have 3x with triple relic and 2x with double relic, 3x with single relic, red ones
Pretty much 50:50
Half of em lucky, the other half not so
2 ancient......... I got no ancient core since the beginning playing with 6 chars
never lucky
I have seen... 4 in total, mainly unrelated blue ones
At least u get 1/4 of the pity from a single core
that is true
at least that ye
Alts are doomed if u ain't lucky
I used mine on alt cause no need for pala
lol
you have the opposite of my problem
you have gg cores, but shit jewels
yep
dw its ok to be gay
i have all the jewels i need to 4x17 all alts except bard right now, but i got all trash cores

I had nuff Astros to finish 2 1/2 chars
feryn gay??!
Funneling greens
being gay is a previlage in 2026, you get to victim blame everybody and get preferential treatment
👌
only a specific kind
is it true if your gay, you have to let the entire world know it? i think thats how it works

guy in my guardian just looted gem chest L
where is mine
how tf do i get rid of this item
Someone said last days they can't be open anymore
u tried to complete the quest they say on the box description?
cant open it, cant destroy it, cant dismantle it, cant sell it
you can open it
do the guide quest
i just realized the guide quest is probably removed, yeah its probably wait for fix
Is it even worth to use Hell Altar on chars where u aim for special leaps or fusions?
It's like so low chance to get upgraded key, u might get lower key or fire/ice key
40% chance to get hell key, 30% downgrade, 30% upgrade
I would say it is always worth, but choice is yours



finally back to proper gaming rig RTX ON 
as a kid if i had timestop i would do lot of things
as working adult now i just want more time to sleep and wish i can time stop for more sleep hours

damn, 2 week HYPE in xmas time 

dejavu
i've just been in this place before
was literally me yesterday LOL
shut up @undone summit
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

forgot to post this we had some fun 2 days ago
@undone summit marry me

@undone summit fuck you
NO FUCK YUOU
how do these 2 cores interact with each other
using deathlord 1 2 buffs 3 4, but using 3 4 buffs 56 no, so basically is that unlimited?
9/7 made it possible to combine it with +12 (legendary) engravings and accessories that were 6/3 to make a 5x3 + 2 setup
new system is a whole lot less messy
and a lot less complicated
dont necessarily need a whole new set of accessories and ability stone just for a new build
you only need 1 set of accessories in t4
or to switch engravings
i forgot what a nightmare t3 was
i remember i looked for 3 weeks to find the right acc for my slayer
to get her 5x3+1
0quality thats new

you know if this is applied to yourself or party 
proly just for u
no fucking clue
if it's for everyone it usually says so
applies to yourself
tested it myself

The one you want is the T skill one @charred void



Could be worse


LIKE YOUR DPS
Going back to sleep

Have doggo then
kinda chubby
i love you
EWWWWWWWWW

fuck you
NO FUCK YUOU
weirdo
Baldan
Deathboi is so bald
Deathboi is so bald
yay nice chaos gate
Why is this so HD
thats 4k remaster

damn, a WHALE
yep
that looks kinda weak sauce though
my SE with arkgrid cp pad
TEMU
prob can hit 2700 with blue cores, or 2800 with the last relic order
not even any books at this day and age
just massive +500cp from ark grids

w ark grid
as usual
Really, right infront of my no-gold-fate-ember's 👀
ill name my next main something paekes related
where do i rename myself again 
nvm smh found the channel this time
Lucksack3000
i'm stealing this 
how
love the logic,
Guy goes into my rock safespot in Act 4 G2 Hard because his team didn't kill the rock on his safespot
"I didn't want to die"
Ye neither did I 
At least I got a relic for it 
🐳
Just double checking and I'm sure @charred void or @wintry depot knows,
but this is the regular AP buff's right? 
Yes
That seems like a decent one for Valk since you can keep high uptime 
Two people can take the same safe spot but they need to time it right
Really?
yes
Ye I know but I'm not familiar with timing and died
that murderer
gives more dmg overall

W RMT

yes
How much difference we talking in terms of overall power?
@wintry depot Since the bonus stagger seems kinda, meeh, (But maybe It's whatever since the other's are 1,5% Mp or 10k hp)
idk, but bebok has a supp calculator
diff isnt that big between identity and t iirc
for bard and artist
for valk i have no clue
I would think Artist is best with T since they have lower Cd with Leap.

pala and valk has lower cd no?
And on Bard I would think Z was better no since she's the only one with a higher Z buff 
7 more to go
yea but no
I mean more that Artist is the only one that can lower her already T cd with Leap points
unless youre an uptime god
hmmm
according to someone, z on artist would be better if you have like 85%+ uptime
strange, the CP increase isn't as big as i thought. 4725 to 4732
but usually you just use the one you get
still worth tho
Oh, right, Z is also good on Artist since you can keep really high uptime
Well this was my G1 Act 4
G2 was worse since I got murdered 

WOAH THERE
Free from JAIL
GG BOATZIN
Congratulations 
GIGA glow
and those numbers are false
you could be higher or lower

and was like oh the z skill


theyre making some good points i watched for a bit
like what
They're not mainly talking about Lost Ark, just MMOs in general now
ofc no1 in their mind want to buy sidereals 
But one point they made is that Lost Ark desperately needs some more brain dead content that's actually relevant. Like how in Runescape you can farm braindead content while you're at work (work from home stuff) and do chill stuff and continue to progress. Then when they're off work they can do raids/engaging content
But one point they made is that Lost Ark desperately needs some more brain dead content that's actually relevant. Like how in Runescape you can farm braindead content while you're at work (work from home stuff) and do chill stuff and continue to progress. Then when they're off work they can do raids/engaging content
Then they went on to talk about how truly afk content from Asian MMOs like BDO (fishing/farming/training) sucks
i mean, thats what they talked about in loa on no
his dumbest take for now (i watch just 2min) is comparing BIGGEST west MMOS vs KrGRINDmmo
Their point is, LOA seems to be moving back towards the trend of Islands, which is fun for the initial release but once players are done it becomes a deserted island (pun intended) and its super dead and pointless for the future players
Like think Seagull island, was fun with 500 players there chatting and doing al lthe jumps
yeah
i mewan even if they do giga braindead content, there will still be people complaining about its too hard
i mean all "oldge" content below current patch in WoW is DEADGE (unless u farm for gold)
But one point they made is that Lost Ark desperately needs some more brain dead content that's actually relevant. Like how in Runescape you can farm braindead content while you're at work (work from home stuff) and do chill stuff and continue to progress. Then when they're off work they can do raids/engaging content
@wintry depot Kaz Hard with half the group being Top 10 TFM Kaz player's 

The point isn't about braindead content or not
It's the idea that islands won't fix the game, which I kinda agree with
It'll be nice for us veterans esp. if they are good lore drops
but long term it'll be the same same anyways
primal island cough yes u, u shit teamming (they wanted evergreen island, and this shit just went OMEGA deadge)
its annoying, i can barely type with my finger 
since i type only with 2 fingers usually
Primal Island could have been amazing if they struck down harder on Teaming and changed the Rewards to be a Shop so you could get points enough even if you just did like 3 and got let's say top 10 / 5 / 15 or something in ranking.
but they fucked it up

Rip
get well soon
someone is smart
whale
Top 10 aura 🐳
i had 5.6k slayer in my GR before 
I know you get it, but a lot of people are holding out hope that it saves the game. But that type of casual content dies too quickly
i cant play like that aaaaaaaaa
ask darek to clear all chaos for u
Got another relic Waho
we were suppsoed to do guardians today :(
G1 was like 7min 22 second's 
everything is love
🅱️erhaps
Love of bad rng 
why hes posting his bus-farmed lvl 10 gems ong the cheater
idk

Also,
7 legendary core's 1 relic.
Fricking heck this drop rate.

I can buy Hopper Relic

what?
portal to agartha opening soon
dont u only need like lege?
but now I can get relic


if i lost my chaos gate entrance istg
You did
Giga
After cutting tons of astrogems yesterday, it’s an insane amount of CP on the table btw
Might be worth looking into
Went up around 400-500 CP
pog 8% 

holy gz marshmallomancer
Ayo, 2 relic core's on main, to bad they are both, worthless 
143/200 away to upgrade one 

i think it's more realistic to get cancer than 1 ancient core
sheesh
dman fayten
hello @kind lotus
neekomegalul
peak passenger

anyone got alot of 1720 cubes?
who supporting tho
are those just two dps valks fr
The downside to matchmaking
Nah


just cancel the queue when it changes from "prioritize group role ratio" to quick matchmaking
yes baby
Just dont do guards
remove guardians from the game
Another one.

your inventory looks like mine otherwise though 
that glimpse of his inventory made me wanna die
why are u on storage npc instead of alt+p
that legit gave me diarrhea


sadge
Getting kicked from Mordum because of Lv.6 gem's,
My bad Thanos I didn't know 2k Combat power was too low 
eh, might buy that later or might work on 8's I haven't decided, either way's, even with those gem's due to Ark Grid my overall buffing is equal or stronger then the other support he took xD
how hard is it to go from 1705 to 1720? 
Since that person had some 7's and zero Ark Grid 
very 
my guy just looked at gems
2 more ilvl
dang, yeah i'm kinda camped out at 1705 and have been for a while since casual but wanna try the new GR soon 
THAT's why u want 1720?
youre not missing much, they decapitated him
sure why not
Not my fault they are dumb as bread's
oh no you don't have cd gem's on a class that don't need high cd's to have full AP uptime, and oh no you're missing 1% Support effect
That's the difference from 6 to 7 btw, 1%
Palerdin?
Bard's 
i cant wait to max out magick stream
sex out

You can have pretty much full uptime with trashy gem's and low swift even on Bard's 
thats why i need a boyfriend

The difference from Lv.6's to 8 Dmg gem is 2% Support effect
from 6 > 8 It's so little
meanwhile dps get's all the fun big jumps in power smh
what is this rat smell of which you speak 👀
so many 10s 
Who gives a 🦆 ? Look at the overall stats and what they have, also,
lul
this is the only place in the game where your mount's movements affect your screen
@charred void
If you're going to yapp about gem's go yapp about the 90% of people under 1730 with legit zero Ark Grid 
existing ark grid too scary 😨
brb let me get Lv.8's but remove ark grid so I'm "better" at 1800 Combat Score yepper's.
apply next lobby
you interacted with it then get mad for being interacting with it.
That's wild 
Also not really making any drama, you're the one that started posting my gem's and trying to make a point out of nothing 
good music = 50% speed boost
like driving midnight no music = +100% vision
trying to park your car with music on = debuff
bang bang sora ni saita firework
im cold
hi cold im takki

I tried to put it where the most people were during pre-break phase Mordum G3
But no 
Meanwhile Paladin & Valk's can just, clickity clackity buffy button and hit 
True, tho they have Push Immunity on 1 buff at least
well like us
give me 2 por favour
cold
anyone bought these accessories can tell me what lines they got?
pinned in help
Get a jacket 
she need heated floor
Fluffy
flufffff
you have snow!!


i found some pretty easily
My hips hurt :(
told you to go easy on riding
just opened up uwu, checked armoche hard mode for <2500 combat power records, checked a few logs of supports and 97th percentile support has full 6s
Not like gems matter much on supp tbh
of course
the one thing they matter in is.... combat power
and that's basically it
no no, It's giga big and if they don't have 8's they are practically useless

because SG decided in their infinite wisdom to make gems give twice as much combat power as on dps
while having a lower impact
my god finally south kurzan
Enjoy
cool, ez money
not me
Thats insanely cheap
not me XD
not selector, random
lmao
even if i had read that
i would not have trusted what's written on it
since AGS/SG
Criminal making an escape attempt
This is a Normal skill Normal Skill.
This is a Normal skill Flame Skill.
This is a Combo skill Normal Skill.
I think it's well within SG's realm of possibilities to name a selector as a Random box.
what does skill type have to do with skill element
because they both use the word Normal in them
and on sorc some cores affect Normal skills and others Normal Skills.
The last 2 I've seen all was only around 100k >.<
It's random
Selection would never sell for 100k.
Selection would be like 1 million 
eg
I think it's particularly funny that it says Normal Mode and Point Mode
but when it's a casting skill it's Casting Control
instead of Casting Mode
im all outta cubes 
now do mine
no thank you mister
i have about 200 hell keys, theres a battle to be had
but first i need some din din in my belly
i wish i had a heartbreak time machine

helping kokos
teached some strike raid before and helped them mordumb
since then i get weekly honor xD
WA a sid
wtf
lucker
paekes found the infinite honor glitch
yes looted it yesterday ;__;
oooh nice congratz
i was drunk yesterday
woke up at 2pm today
im getting my last 9 frfr
and went back to bed and wojke up 45 min ago xD
xDDD
easy
waaa

10k lower than 3h ago
yeah i bought one yesterday at 1.040m
gotta use my energy pots to farm some abidos

im poor now
ah so you're a cheapo
Just clickity clackity a few karma @wintry depot

Do it 
i tried to play support
GOLD
NOT EVEN 1000?
i played artist and pala
NO
AMIGAD!
and it's juust not for me
bard best sup
HOLY GIGA BROKIE 
and fuck bard
she can die in hell

Bur grats on giga gem's 
well 2 the other on is 
shes rotting doing only chaos now
when ill have money irl, ill need to buy renames
i have 2 1710
i keep her outside of main 6 because i dont enjoy her ?
i wont play a char i dont like
only because she has ilvl
weirdo
That's not that weird
it really is 
I'll have one non-gold 1720 later too 
well if you're D1 player it maybe isn't
He means, having non-gold 1720
it snot about d1 player

dont hone in the first place
Not that you don't want to play it 
i don't enjoy my gunslinger
itwas my old main...
i dont enjoy her ark grid
i still HAVE to player her
no you dont
You don't HAVE too.
yes i have to
Tho TTH GS is Amazing.
you force yourself to play her
it's 100k gold weekly
You're a donkey if you don't like her
TTH best
PM > TTH
imo
and arna that's 100k gold is 1/6th of my weekly income i can't afford as a returning player to not play her
and?
if i want any hope of every playing TFM that is
i made the 1710 with the express...
point stands
i threw 3m gold at it lol
u will get a chance to replace her with next express 
that's the plan
i would get more gold continuing my bard
GK 2nd highest char probably
arna did SAME but with bard now
and 0 sanity 
shit argument if u play full supp roster 
yeha and he will say im cheapo because i have full supp roster
darek has full dps roster, multiple classes and he has better roster than me
he would mock me for me playing 6x arti soo


















one of the dps in the grp.










