#lost-ark-discussions
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At this point
ah much more sense
with playerbase shrinking and toxic lobby it is hard for any newbies to stick long enough and the game is clutter with layer and layer of rng as vertical progression which is a hassle for any new or long time returning players
Then again the other thing is that Smilegate make it clearly in this Loa ON that global version is not their priority
Lost Ark is very fun back then at early stage with Valtan where people can make mistake and laugh it off, but now it is like FF20 like league of legend ranked games
are those toxic lobbies in the room with us
prob just largely depends on what kind of game y ou are looking for and how much effort you are willing to cmmit to it
“Instead of fixing blue crystal system- we added new avenues to skirt our own pheons”
if you dont mind grind and putting effor to learning stuff you can still have some fun
it is me, I am the toxic lobby

like its beyond me where this narrative comes from
90% of interaction is emote wheel

it exist, the extent of it is probably overblown by personal bias
like how people exaggerate how hard the gatekeeping is
true
It’s the 10% of people blowing up on someone in party that gets clipped on Reddit.
Most of the toxic stuff is gate 0
And that it just no title, weird gear or others being dum
loa on is a korean showcase? what does that have to do with global, global hasnt been subject in 4 years, we get our news from ags, not from a korea specific event
“2500cp normal Mordum”
Amazon Games is our publisher and they can’t be fucked doing a patch notes video anymore let alone any presentations
We’ll get a roadmap on Dec 23rd that’s heavily scripted w/ 3 remaining human staff that look like they spend most of their time locked in a basement at Bezos’ manor
real
yeah that is sad
typo trust
crazy how high the number go up when raids are easier
3000cp Echidna when?!?
yea ppl consider that toxic coz they take every decline as a personal vendetta against them for some reason
imagine youre making up this "the whole world is against me" theme in your head and in the end the dude declined you coz he didnt like the color of your pants
i guess you are right
saw a 1.9k cp lobby for nm 
As soon as I hit 3k so I can keep people out
act 4 ?
yea
I think I saw the same lobby earlier
I’m talking other Echidna
noone runs this raid anymore
no diff
3000cp deathless title run
make it 4000cp
Abyss lord only
1234 🔒
me when "toxic" lobby means people have standards

im joining pugs that end up being 2/3 carrying 3-4 people doing below minimum and not a single person says a thing

can someone imposter me into a hm mord

Its 6 days 19 hours too late
i need ppl to imposter me into mokoko parties for aegir 
Call me next week

to many 1700s looking for mokokos cant ever get into one 
Become the mokoko you were meant to be
You gotta if you ever plan on not being an imposter
btw if you still have some unused elixir chests you should prob open them so the catalysts can get turned into solo medals

funny how it finally gave me 5/5 master gloves today 😅
maybe they'll remove roster xp too and just give us all the passives one day 🙏
master, crit, luminary, advance, generic 20% evo dmg, and the % support buff and max hp
wtf
so they just removed the best elixir set?!?!
i can't believe SG just nerfed us like that
?
i have no clue what sg/ags are doing anymore 😅
RIP in peace, buddy 2023-2025
Man I cant believe we dont get to fight Christmas Argos
We're really gonna see it in 2026
I know it makes me angy :(
they hold it until na eu merge so we can enjoy it together
We can have a full static for argos
get our asses kicked off the cliff and laugh at each other
If you can use your actual class Imma just bring GL and never get knocked
it ignores everything iirc, memo tried
This is tn notes and it mentions argos
Unless its just updates to the event
maybe a fix
maybe. I dont watch loa streams so idk anything
memo should have a vid on his youtube
I dont wanna watch loa stuff so Ill trust you
not entirely of argos but a summary
Im too busy sailing my Astray to Luterra to watch videos
is that ue5
Aight guys.. what do i do while waiting?
I guess creat my next Valk?
Gotta make her look manly
Manly valk? xD
Thats just paladin
valks that don't wanna run supp with no other supp classes in the party 🙄
yeah kinda a pain in the ass sometimes
sometimes? that's being generous 
Ok hm is not that bad
But I'm fucking ass cheecks at g3
Tho I did die like 50 bars before orb phase so not too bad

Im only gonna do my wep as far as +40 goes no plans of doing kaz hm so not point
only took you 5 years to do 2 hmords
Hey guys, can you farm the field boss in north kuzan multiple times in a day for the enlightenment potion?
or that a once a day thing only
gotcha, thanks
@queen grail did you guys clear it?
buzzerbeater cleared just now, 3 hours before reset
i really thought this one wasn't the pull, because we had 1 dead towards the end of 2-2
Surely the delay on Island/Story updates mean they’re taking the time to properly localize them 
I cleared long ago 
but somehow all the stars aligned and we pulled through and got it, our supports were absolutely insane
overall prog time about 25hours
Congrats, now you can use the Ark… in March

Not that bad
thats a even bigger achievement, week 34 is good enough for me
They have a ton of mobility

you do realize if you push immune with gs, yea, your push immune, but you also lose 70% of your hp in 1hit
Pistol has 3 mobility skills and double space
Put on Guardian rune on the hold pistol skill
Ez
Eat event hp food and run EP over CD


Also EP is pretty pog on prog, if you're 1755 I'm going to assume you're geared so the tiny dps loss is fine
you need a better support who loves and protect you

wtf kinda lineup
I mean, maybe, but I swear I see so many bad mitigation supports so my view is skewed, then again gs armor is made by hope, prayers and skinni bikinis.
Where is the dooming? 
you missed it by a couple hours



bro wtf is this 
Ew whyyyyy

yay home internet just went out 

Go to bed kiwi
mmm got relic grudge on alt running behemoth
Wtf 12 hour
um
waaaaait
so the KR changes
they basically force us to do chaos gate now?
since una gold is from chaos gate
ye
i hate it
i hate having these mandatory things i have to do that only spawn for 30 seconds on the full hour
it literally doesn't even matter how long chaos gate itself is
when i have to be there in such a narrow window
i mean if u werent doing chaos gate b4 u were missing out on free gold lmao
i'd much rather have to do something that takes 15 minutes but i could do it at any time of the day
i don't wanna do chaos gate every single time
because it's dumb
yes, but now you lose double as before
well then
it's thousands of gold
but i guess it's SG
thousands of gold is pennies
so can't expect them to not be stupid
i didnt do my last raid for this week because, wait for it
i didnt feel like doing it
om. crazy
i really don't understand this reasoning
it's the same kind of thing like Paper
"ah, if you don't wanna do it, then just don't!"
i jus dont do something if idont feel like doing it
i was crazy once
everyone leaves
and i dont complain about it either
"huh, weird how everyone left!"
i guess im crazy
u should be locked in a room sir
yeah u right
for saying that kind of things
not wrong though. if you feel forced to do something, it sounds like you aren't playing a game you enjoy anymore
i log on and do what i want
this type of reasoning doesn't work
at all
and i do it because i want to do it, not becuase i feel forced
"oh if you don't like doing it then just don't"
the mmoment i feel forced to do something in a game id quit
but most western shit eater gamers don't understand this logic
if i viewed the world with that kind of logic
they will continue to eat their own shit
my only option would be to just die
while also complaining
by your logic
i log on and i roleplay
people complain because they want change
i mean u can do that if u want
no diff
and if things go poorly long enough they stop
all up to u
good morning mericans
no, it means your advice is stupid
everything in life requires you to do things you don't want to. everything
thats not true
yes it is
nope
i agree with that
go ask 100 more people
and i enjoy doing that
they probably dont enjoy doing the kind of work they are doing
do you enjoy being stuck in traffic?
but no one is gonna sweep you up by your feet and create a utopia for oyu
i dont go outside
theres no reason too
never?
did i say that?
literally never?
i can have everything delivered
not a single time ever?
so you've never been in a vehicle in traffic in your life?
nah u didnt but you create ur own situation ua know
ive been in a vehicle, but not in traffic no
i dont live in a dense area
i just dont go outside
either way i don't think there's much point in contuing the discussion
i work from home so yeah no reason too
ur entire line of reasoning for chaos gate is that "oh man something im forced to do"
but u can literally not do it
yes, and when the question is "EVER IN YOUR LIFE" and your answer is "never been in traffic" then you're either lying
or from idk
i dont even know which part of the world would be that undeveloped
maybe when i was a toddler
but i dont remember anything from when i was a baby
yeah, i just don't see how that's true
yeah i walked to my bus stop and i was a class clown on the bus
i dont remember traffic tho
and even then, i was a clown. i wouldnt of cared om
u were never a teenager?
cool
no, look, he enjoys every single thing he does
if he didn't, he'd obviously stop
and if it's something critical in life then that would end his life, right
yeah i enjoy working and playing lost ark. which is all i do
but in reality it's just a lie
you can't go through life with that kind of attitude, because everything in life contains things you don't really want to do, but have to for some later reward
well i do
no diff
anyways, the world isnt gonna end becuase of a chaos gate change
just do it or dont
yes, it isn't
👍
it's just another tone deaf change by the developer
what if people came in and say "wow gold comes from raids, i feel forced to do raids"
by your logic we should get rid of them xdd
Without the complaints we’d still be doing a lot of bloat in the game
that's how numerous people have felt about the game yes
its literally chaos gate. this isn't even worth talking about
and they're part of the 99.3% of the people that have quit the game by now
They moved the pieces around so it’s tied between chaos gate, kurzan and guardian raid. I don’t think it’s fair to say just chaos gate
no, the gold is in chaos gate alone
and the field boss gives fuck all tradable materials
Kr likes convoluted stuff so nothing we can do
But that is stupid. The game is a raiding sim. You can't expect the entire game to change. It's like playing a ARPG and complainig about the fact that its a ARPG and instead you want a singleplayer story-driven experience
They claim to work long hours at work and study hard at school… yet they want to go home to a headache
You could just play a different game.
this IS an ARPG essentially
yes
it's okay to not like a game
the trouble is that SG is greedy
it's not okay to expect the entire game to change because of your opinion
Most people like the arpg raiding simulating but hate the convoluted systems around it
Didn’t SG remove sea island contents because of the schedule bs?
so when they make these changes the main thought is always "they are being greedier"
but the problem with chaos gate is that it's a braindead activity
they are being greedy because they got rid of unas and moved it to chaos gate
what kind of logic is that lmao
but you gotta be there during the 3 minute time on the dot
if they were greedy they would remove chaos gate and remove unas
dead content and something to do with scheduling, yea
no one did islands really
but why are we arguing about a thing thats not gonna be in the game for at least 1 month
thats jus how i sound
No not greedier, in my view, SG finally started to cut off rice eaters and macros like 30x1580 chaos gate and chaos dungeon bots
could also view it that way, yeah
this is some weird dumb KR take
It does a lot of things because they no longer can farm cd and cg macros, its all bound
^^
una gold was already bound bro
Grok disagrees 
Plus, a lot of rice eaters print infinite accounts, use free powerpass and do chaos dungeon 155125 times a day to print gems
This happens in KR, CN and NA/EU
you mentioned a single video, i stayed up until like 5am lol
but yeah i sound tired a lot
im not a super energetic person, very laid back & passive
not in KR
Yes they do
how
That's why KR level 10 gems are 1mil less than our region lol
Memo literally said that
yes, how
Our economy is fucked because of bots. KR economy is more healthy because they have more rice eaters and no bots.
in 20 mins i can start downloading the patch right?
uh maybe
did KR remove the ID limit on making an account now?
because i've heard nothing of them removing it
so how would they print infinite accounts
no but you can use family/friends ID to make accounts
or buy accounts
P2P in KR is very popular
with what money
Wdym what money
Won?
lemme check the exact number
they literally sell gold what are u talking about
Certainly not a dollar
???
4 level 1 gems
if u have 4 accounts with 30 characters each
720g per chaos
its alot
goddamn
Yeah, and they have hundreds of x30 characters bot account
KR most gold came from t3 content... which gives much less than T4.
and make a whole 86k gold from those gems
You underestimate there rice eating capabilities...
hell yeah bro
Its not about playing
then you can sell that gold for like $1
Its all computer
they have bots bro
and if you do this for 6 months you can buy yourself another account
they dont play
Also gems is passive income, they also run raids.
Cubes, etc
T3 gold being completely bound and moving gems to guardian raids hits them very hard.
Which is a good thing.
it makes almost no difference
yup
Just because some people don't like running guardian raids dont mean anything.
what are u talking about
Lol I know a lot of people on NA/EU with 10+ accounts that bot chaos dungeon daily.
they have videos leaked
this weird "rice eater" thing you're talking about doesn't exist in the form you think it does
yes
Your delusional if you think this doesn't happen in our region
BOT chaos dungeon
Smilegate removed party play for chaos dungeon because of bots. How would you take this then?
It literally does though. You live in the microcosm of lost ark. I know the degeneracies of it. I know who speedhacks, who bots, pilots etc.
why dont you report them then
you think i haven't?
no, i dont
welp can't convince you on that then
and of course people bot
dont even try it
the point is that that's not the rice eaters they're talking about in KR
or at least memo is
what memo said just doesn't make sense on scale
these chaos dungeon things make so little gold
And plays on that region?
They bot it so they can sell
That's crazy man.
combined with a limited number of accounts
You must have some insane divine insight
Why do u think ppl bot?
that the number of people that could be doing that would be miniscule
to make money
Knowing more than the man with more hours than you and literally plays on that region
Aerroon is very smart guys
True. He's a mokoko, very new to the game and knows nothing about it
I concede, your right
👍
have you looked at his roster
Yeah his roster is the pinnacle of someone who is actually not dented.
no
He doesn't waste gold on a ton of alts and focuses on his main character
his roster wouldn't work as f2p
Like many people here should be doing
yeah
i have 5 alts
what you say is completely correct
no more no less
idk what point your trying to make
the types of changes SG makes
Smilegate is making changes to hit the rice eaters and im here for it,
make rosters like memo's inefficient
so u want to make more gold?
like memo's roster is the type of roster that gets hit by it
thats what u are saying
Hit by what? No tradeable mats?
That's stupid.
If your honing with unbound materials your playing the game very inefficiently.
???
I haven't honed with unbound mats since like early T4
If I don't have any more bound mats I stop honing
1st, i'm saying that he doesn't hone his characters much
Plus the new change gives you x3 more mats from chaos/guardian
meaning that he would be the person who's selling off his unbound mats for gold
or funnel into main
so the tradability change hits him
Sg is trying to change so that players hone their alts with paradise keys and new changes (bound mats)
only from kurzan
2nd, we've been over this bound honing talk with you
and we already know that you hone with unbound mats too, you just did it long ago
guardian rates just increase to the point of being in line with kurzan
All of my alts have 7mil+ shards, 10,000+ leaps, hundreds of thousands of blues/reds.
I don't need to funnel to my main
yes
when you buy an insane amount of mats a year ago and use those to hone your main
then after that you really dont need to do it again
I didn't buy an insane amount of mats except shards to hone to +25 very early on in the game
I could of done it with bounds only but I ragehoned
1640 chaos dungeon gives an average of 156 weapon stones
184 on 1660, 238 on 1680, 279 on 1700
it takes on average 1.2 million weapon stones to go from +20 weapon to +25
how many days is that
I don’t even know what this convo is about but how do we get this worked up over a video game just to unironically say this
like if we had got gear reset a little earlier

That is the name of the game though. You get lucky and sometims you don't get lucky.
I mean yeah I don’t disagree with you lol
but from what I’ve read — that kinda invalidates this entire convo
Just get lucky 4head
but the truest advice for this game is this
find a way to be ahead of the average players
Outcome is inevitable with pity. Just park and hone. I don't hone without enough mats. If i run out of bounds I stop honing.
and stay ahead of the curve somehow
Dangerous mentality for anyone who’s not already there for a while
Then you’re a servant to FOMO and burnout
you can do things like play 6o f the same class
only play supports
have alt rosters/accounts
do hardcore funneling
bus
swipe
You don't need to stay ahead of the curve. This minmax fomo mentality is very stupid. Even for the west. Log on and enjoy a video game. Don't compare yourself to others
Brel & Mordum solo unironically saving the game for mid-game players
There's many times where I don't even finish all my raids because I don't feel like it
But I don't get a "sense of urgency" to rush and do it
and how much do you bus again
I just don't do it
Yeah I bus. I don't know what this has to do with anything.
I'm picking gold up off the ground. You can do it too
like i mentioned 6 things and you already hit like 3 of them
that already keeps you ahead of the curve
and when you're ahead of the curve you know that SG isn't going to make changes that feel unattainable to you
Even if I wasn't ahead of the curve I wouldn't care lol.
you'll get to do the things before most others, meaning you get to usually benefit in some way from it
If supports didn't exist in this game I would of quit late tier 3.
eg if you did relic books early into T4 you got them cheaper
That's when I realized what class I actually enjoy
if you have a lot of gold lying around you can buy up gems when they drop because of some news
yeah but i didnt do any of that
Yeah it is. I just hope that the difficulty curve doesn't spike on mordum solo.
Will find out soon I guess.
my worry for mordum solo isn't the difficulty
it's the length
G2 is like aegir G1 almost
anyway you might not consciously try to stay ahead of the curve
but the way you play, unconsciously or not has kept you ahead of the curve
I'd be ahead of the curve regardless. I have 15 thousand hours man...
Whether I bussed or not
aren’t they making it so the boss doesn’t regenerate HP
That's with shadow raids I think
If you overkill before Velganos regens
Oh wtf
wtf is my autocorrect doing
I never noticed that om
they're removing that
boss comes in
you hit him 3 times
230 mech
wait for the boss to show the blinking floor
do the blinking floor dance
stagger (probably only have to do it once)
hit boss 3 more times
105 stagger check
Oh tf
also don't forget
videos inbetween all of these!
and then after the 105 you're allowed to kill him
We always had to buss friends rat alts, I never had a chance to know about the HP regen
Yeah we can all agree Aegir is a transition simulator
only happens in hm
Most people don't like it lol
I mean yeah but Mordum solo still viable AF because you don’t have to wait in G0 + mordum lobbies have been atrocious lately
of course
I just did a last second solo aegir and the scene transitions were longer than the fight
i'm just saying that compared to other solo raids
Yeah I was surprised they released solo mordum
mordum might end up taking twice as long
I cba bussing sub 100mill Abyssal punishers
I thought it would just be brel
just becasue it's 3 gates plus transitions in G1 and G2
in PUGs 
hell, using hidden side for g2 is pointless because it takes so long
here's how you do aegir solo
you know the thing where you gotta stagger him
with spinning laser
I threw wei and he died before foot animation
you cast ealyn during this
ealyn's recast will do 120 bars of damage
and basically kill the boss from there
Sounds like spaghetti code at work
What I always like about Solo is seeing the differences between solo and group
tbf that was the second time I've ever done solo aegir since it came out
I always find it to be fascinating.
You can legit kill him before that if you double cast avele in first shadow realm — none of the second cast damage is nerfed accordingly
just forgot to do a last second aegir on a rat and decided to blitz it
I’ve actually never done a solo since it launched cuz I either 8-man raid it or skip for the week
they have too little hp
also solo bosses need some kind of targeting change
I try not to skip if it's a gold earner
they can't just pick you as a target every time
I'm talking about attacks and mechanics. Like in Echidna there are mechanics you can straight up timestop, that you cannot do in group mode.
in solo mode his shadow realm is ALWAYS telegraphed in a specific way no matter how much damage you do to him (unlike in group where he’ll leave early) — this means if you cast Avele right when you go in you will always get second cast off
they need to aim at something else once in a while so they might actually hit you
Can't wait to drop this rat alt
I just like testing those sort of things.
Even if neat, you don't usually see any mechs/patterns in solo mode
99% of the time they just fall over and skip everything
Fair ig
when can i start downloading
is there a list somewhere of best stones to cut?
thinking about it now cause of the hell chests
well, depends on what you're playing
is it dif for every spec?
and what the priorities are
well, it can be for some
but they are all typically in the same ballpark
ok fuck it then cause the biggest delta is .10%
my recommendation is to try cut stones that are generic
like grudge adrenaline or something
i just figure if i'm going to cut 1000 stones from hell chests i might as well go for the .10% minmax
so that if SG changes something in the future you don't need a new ability stone
i am on dual spec classes
but i have a valk dps
i found a chart that shows gunlancer gets .10% extra dps from KBW vs CD/hitmaster etc
but not sure about valk
but yeah fuck it
grudge kbw is also probably a good option
but do keep in mind that
grudge is i think the least efficient stone to cut
yeah it is
by .05% compared to all others based on gunlancer chart
if i wanna go full foolproof grudge/adrenaline is prob the way?
T
classes might get changes down the line but i'm not sure
om
3 days in a row
cut every stone that has any combo of the 2 of your 5 engravings and equip the first 2/3 you get.
maybe
it's hard to say
it used to be that way but hell chests can give way more than natural grind
holy i found the clip of my 1st g4 thaemine clear
i'm not familiar enough with gunlancer to know that
oh you can pick which two you want from hell?
might as well pick the minmaxed combo of engravings
If it’s a back attack class then Grudge AM might be more evergreen. Each system introduces more and more crit — Adrenaline MIGHT phase out, esp when playing with a crit syn
noted noted
Ark Grid gives like 5% crit rate on some of them blue cores iirc
don’t actually take this as gospel though, even after I said that I still think it’s highly unlikely that it’ll happen
i think average stones to cut a 9/7 is 2000? we might see way more of them with hell chests
It’ll take a lot of power creeping to make up for 17-20 crit that adrenaline gives
wait someone said average is 1428 stones
yeah making up 20% crit is tough
when can i start downloading the patch..
just wait for AI and 1 tap 9/7
i am but it's not gonna be 1 tap it's gonna be 1000 tap over 4 months of paradise
cope
im pretty excited for ai stone cutting
that's what im saying man it's very cool
i have 200 across roster but didn't want to spend time cutting
just wish the "7" for supports wasn't always drops of ether
it'll take like 5 minutes now
coping one day we have more diversity with sup engravings
nah i'd rather just know the bis 2 engravings
yeah i feel ya
people in g0 that swap back to HA after loading into raid
i dont feel a sup shortage
DPS shortage imo
dragon booba knight will make it even out tho
i did trying to krathios. but yea i dont get the full sup lobby experience so
what does that mean? Can we now damage her during the stupid time wasting phase of grey and yellow?
Yes
they basically took the DR phases out of Gates 1 and 2 of Mordum and made it so Kazeros raids end when they hit x0
(except for Final Day)
this should have been the case from day 1
straight up this is the worst case of DR in the game
this came for us too now? for sure?
yes
like the entire mech she can't take damage, Aegir would blush at this timee wasting
Akkan and Aegir was allegedly changed as well
thank god Kazeros and act 4 don't have that much of DR
i didnt see it in the patch notes, so i thought we dont get it now
i straight up think having a bigger bar is more ok then having DR
shields are just way better desgined DR
is there a website that shows all the cores? I cant see them coz server offline and im tryna theory craft which spec i can get away with legendary cores + 1 relic
yeah
link me bro
holy shit maxroll really uploaded every core, nice job and ty ser
2 weeks ago mine maxed out at 45
i get 996mbps on my 1gb plan 😉
sups will always think theres dps shortage and dps always runs into sup shortage
time to giga hone my rats
safe to assume most of it was already in the game, just some events and UI to actually hook it up
i get to send another slayer lopang to 1700 for keys
6 slayer roster?
wow maxroll legit has all the ark grid builds already done and info looks correct
really? gonna go take a look
yep i been wathcing alot of kr vids and the info in maxroll is basically matching
same same
my alts finished 1-20 a long time ago
All the elixir sets are now T4 on Evolution tree. Stat bonuses are baked into armour
Ez pushing all trash alts to 1680 for more juicy dailies
not like other elcheapo ppl
i purposely overhoned w/o doing adv honing waiting for this nerf
some of my alts are like +20 no adv honing kek
ya no more 5-5 shit
so many trys to get a 5-5

best part is when u swap builds or swap between dps and sup its much easier than b4
are we getting that payed express pass with the good accessories?
unfortunate
U have accs in new gold shop.
of the same level? high low iirc
they were mid-mid and I think yes.
cool
oh hell nah
im a relatively new player and my main in 1680, should i use the express event on my main or my new char from powerpass
who invited mordum here
new char if u tryna build up roster, main if u wanna 1 main andie but use PP on new char
New char I would say, it will help you increase your roster and earn more gold.
but if u prefer to play only 1 char then use on main.
i highly recommend u dont have just 1 char tho
my only issue with the game is i dont get to play enough lol
finish my weekly's in an hour
xactly hence u wanna build up roster so go with using on a new char
you happen to know if the free gear to akkan is out?
with this upd
I can't wait for solo mode mordum so I don't play mordum again lol
its not out, specifically said that change will not happen for us until later, the change ur referring to is the MSQ into silver honing out of T3 into T4
thats to bad, alright
u get another giga event and PP in Feb for dragon knight so if u use this one on new char ul have 3 char at 1700 alrdy inc the DK one, extremely good progress
dw ul hit the headache i have everytime one of these giga event + new class comes out coz have 2 drop an existing for it due to the extremely stupid 6 char roster gold limit instead of just making 7th+ roster bound gold only or something
where is our new class
id rather have that problem then this one lol
both bad problems to have, at least with ur problem ur looking forward to stuff, when u get to my problem its a real headache
oh im sure but i just want to be able to play yk
not possible
it might be obvious at first but when u gone thru this cycle like 10 times its straight up stupid, i been thru so many new class releases and had to make hard decisions on which char to cut, gets harder everytime coz the bad chars are alrdy cut, left only good ones
Just have one of every 
2 poor for that 🙁
im obviously not at this point and never have been but i hear people just do all char's for fun
6 gold all raids though
its extremely expensive lol coz the 7th char is just a gold sink generates nothing the more gold sinks u have the poorer u get unless u play it as a rat but that defeats entire purpose
its not free man
before they use to generate tradeable reds and shards right? idk
it is with Paradise now
paradise is rng man
i have some alts that are moer ahead than others and not a single one was able to get from 1585-1680 for free so far
thats used on the new class release
I've raised 4 from 1580 to 1660
EVERYTHING is RNG in this game.
yeah 1620 not 1680 right
now i need 1730 its giga expensive paradise is a joke trying to get 1680-1730 to do latest content
alts do not need ark grid right now lmao
yeah NOW but up until now he only got to 1660
huh, u good? ARK grid is LONG term shit, u dont need it asap for alts
xd
then its not free which is my argument
ur just parking ur alts at whatever ilvl is cheap
1680 is solo mode ilvl man
nothing is free above 1680
Do you guys fuse legendary astros or dismantle? Which is better?
party raids dont even start till 1690
fuse
i would argue 1680-1700 isnt even that bad with the existence of 15-18 books
1700* , I have 2 chars honed to 1700 just using paradise
its just matter of time
umm, they do start 
u jus have good rng
8 hours update on my day off 😄
ppl are saying alts r free on the condiiton u park it at solo mode ilvl yeah ok not free if u wanna play with others in recent content is it?
thus black hole like i said
i love updates yay
needs to generate its own gold
Okay but 1700 is still not that bad to reach
it fomo bruh, u dont need to FOMO system u pay 200k+++
You just need +16 everything and AH 20. That's not bad.
how much would it cost if I have mats to hone from 1700 to 1710?
im not fomoing i wanna play PARTY content and most recent raids otherwise wtf is the pnt of playing alts its just doing hw
check maxroll honing calc
do we have any idea how long servers will be down?
Brother party content is Aegir - Kazeros
depends on how many nat 20s u roll
im excited for the act 3 solo mode. nobody accepts me in parties in act 3 i think cuz my power is 760 XD. i see there over 1k powers
what are you talking about
party content is whatever the latest 3 raids are in my book
otherwise u can jus solo
Okay but kazeros is homework mickey mouse content
just like every other raid
im confused by your point
also thats mostly AH honing
kaz hw is better than brel and aegir hw
if its all boring y r u palying the game
cuz i hate myself
LOL
clearly latest content is not boring so u wanna play it
xdd
we know
what the
Free yourself
thus if u just alt park at solo mode ilvls its pointless
the combat made all other games combat unpallatable
u just doing hw for no reason
the only reason i play the game is to unlock the collectibles. doing each raid once is part of it 🙂
Okay but hitting 1700 is pretty free to be honest
15-18 books, AH 1-20 is dirt cheap now
i have 70 mokokos left to finish that. and like 10 leafs
whaaaa? i DONT PLAY ANY PARTY and i enjoy this wdym ?
my arguement is simple, 7th+ alt should earn roster gold so it can at least pay for its own self in terms of ark grid and w/e other costs so u can actually play more recent content
Whats the point?
1700 is Act 4
that's no solo mode
if its a char with access to bound mats & shard ye, raising a fresh without event/stacked mats isnt
ur dumb, 7th char is dentge
You want gold earning outside the main 6?
Nah your crazy as hell bro sorry
what the
roster bound dude
it makes no diff to the game if its bound gold
That's still crazy as hell
how is it crazy
umm sir? I ENJOY it so u dont have to ask me it, i do like this
i think 6 gold earners are too much
BOUND GOLD man
more than 6 wtf..
7 is too much, 6 is too much
paradise gold is king.
it should be 3 tbh
this 6 gold earning is one of the things plaguing the game since it's inception
i've always advocated for lower
convince SG to do this, but KR player base is not even 6 gold earning chars 
thats TRADABLE GOLD
you can only make gold on 6 unless your playing on another account or roster
you make 6 alts earn the tradeable gold and farm bound gold on chars u push
im, talking BOUND gold
I am so confused.........


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