lost-ark-discussions

[dull obsidian]

p2p transactions are almost just a 1 and done

[fresh flint]

I like reddit

People on reddit are stupid

[lunar stag]

that's not something to like

[fresh flint]

I like it because it's entertaining

[zenith canyon]

fr, u go read reddit and ur 10iq lower

[fresh flint]

I just saw a thread about someone bitching about some dude that multiboxxes apparently

[dull obsidian]

tbh some really quick solutions can be done so easily

lost ark does have a lot of really good content they could update and recycle

[fresh flint]

Sorry let me remake that sentence

[dull obsidian]

no clue why they don't do it though

a raid rotation would be nice

[fresh flint]

He posted a screenshot of the 2nd place TFM winner and said "oh so we let multiboxxers win now"

[dull obsidian]

Mercenary system for those kind of players is being worked on

[zenith canyon]

welp its boring to do same raid u did 2 y ago

[dull obsidian]

no its not?

[charred void]

random raid queue with bonus rewards

[lunar stag]

wha'ts multiboxing?

[dull obsidian]

playing multiple accounts at the same time

[queen grail]

What a nice grp.

[dull obsidian]

like entering kurzan/chaos gate

[queen grail]

Now, where's all the sups.

[zenith canyon]

1 player playing more than 1 acc at same time

[fresh flint]

Ye

[queen grail]

we got one

[lunar stag]

why is that not a bad thing?

[dull obsidian]

it is a bad thing?

[zenith canyon]

yes and no

[fresh flint]

It is a bad thing... the guy screenshotted the TFM ranking and posted it with absolutely no evidence or reasoning.

[charred void]

something like this from general chat

[lunar stag]

well, it depends are some keys automated?

[dull obsidian]

no shit

lmao

[charred void]

thx4invite

[fresh flint]

Then if you go look at the guys roster he's a 30 Gunlancer enjoyer.

[zenith canyon]

multi was common with argos mm g1

[dull obsidian]

imagine if you could do 100 chaos gates a day

[zenith canyon]

[lunar stag]

there was an infmous case in runescape where a guy was straight up boting, but some people defended him because hee was infront of the screen

[slender sky]

some ppl unironically do that, on the 1680 chaos gates later in the day theres always trains of 4-5 chars per gate

[lunar stag]

i mean i have mixed feelings about it

[dull obsidian]

like how easy would it be to nuke mokoko carries and busses

[lunar stag]

this is fine

[dull obsidian]

by just making it so the player has to do like 3-5% dmg

to get rewards

[zenith canyon]

then all sups are fucked

u cant do it

[dull obsidian]

?

[lunar stag]

since you just log in into a bunch of accounts and carry

[dull obsidian]

supps would have a different criteria

[zenith canyon]

and doing mechs for all 8 players ends with more shit than help

[fresh flint]

Yes, that's why I said 30 GL enjoyer

[dull obsidian]

?

You carrying a mokoko when he died 48 seconds into the fight isnt doing anything for the player

but giving him free shit

[charred void]

i run into this guy a lot of times in sonavel and asked "must be fun to play this many gunlancers huh" and he just dropped me the "?"

[zenith canyon]

it is what it is

[queen grail]

Piece of 🍬 Thanks f2p aura

[zenith canyon]

u can see same within all mmorpgs

[slender sky]

thanks for the upgrade

[undone summit]

... @charred void. Seriously. You've already given @slender sky enough reputation. I can only process so much love for one user.

[dull obsidian]

Maplestory you are required to do 5% of the boss hp

in order to get rewards

[fresh flint]

Lmao, he probably doesnt speak english

[dull obsidian]

I think thats a great system

[lunar stag]

are we just going pretend all mokokos are not human?

[zenith canyon]

and ppl who couldnt get 5% cry all time

[dull obsidian]

?

if you can't do 5%

you are dogshit

improve?

[lunar stag]

i mean they read the guide and at least do the basic mechs and dodges right

[zenith canyon]

if ur new u wont do 5%?

bruh

[dull obsidian]

improve?

[obtuse oyster]

that and being dead for x amount minutes

[zenith canyon]

umm u cant improve if u dont get mats

[dull obsidian]

if you are dead for like 85-90% of the fight

shouldn't get rewards either

?

[obtuse oyster]

yeah

[dull obsidian]

mats =/= improvement

[zenith canyon]

that would be bis

[dull obsidian]

like theres so many quick simple fixes

that forces players to play the game

and improve

[queen grail]

Is there any chance between adv 20 > 40 on patch btw?

[dull obsidian]

not for this patch

[queen grail]

I assume not.

[charred void]

like moving gems to guardian raids

[dull obsidian]

but when shadow raids comes out

[queen grail]

[dull obsidian]

30-40 will have scrolls

[midnight marlin]

are new players even looking for busses

[dull obsidian]

yes

tons

[midnight marlin]

cant be adv in game

[slender sky]

nah fk him for that

[midnight marlin]

im not in discords so idk the audience

[lunar stag]

you need to wait for mordum to become a card run

[midnight marlin]

customers

[dull obsidian]

so many new players buy busses because they can't get lobby

[lunar stag]

actually after that

[dull obsidian]

mordum already a card run

that boss is a glorified trixion dummy

what

[lunar stag]

Man i can't wait when mordum becomes a card run

[obtuse oyster]

@dull obsidian Om

[queen grail]

Mordum is card run

[lunar stag]

well, peopl sometimes just lose iq

[dull obsidian]

no shit

they need to improve

[queen grail]

tf? 2500 is MORE than enough

[dull obsidian]

thats literally just the game

new/shit players

want vet players to carry them

99% of the time

[lunar stag]

tbh, i wanna make fun of this guy, but there is a lot of sential slayer players who don't know to dobasic shit

[dull obsidian]

and cry when they cant

[queen grail]

Got Deathless mordum hard finally today in the most scuffed wonky ass clear

[zenith canyon]

huh, u can easy do it 2200

[lunar stag]

AND I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHY

[queen grail]

I got confused when I saw the achivement

[lunar stag]

like holy shit

[queen grail]

"lot of player's".

Titles don't tell much.

[lunar stag]

i was in a kazeros nm and most of the sential title guys were dying to fucking basic attacksfrom kazeros

[dull obsidian]

1600 combat character

like it literally is just a hands issue

this is no atros

[queen grail]

But, Kaz is not Archmoche, Irrelevant if they got Sentinel.

Maybe it was first time in Kaz

[zenith canyon]

even first time u would do it fast

[lunar stag]

this was week 2

actually it was week 3

week 2 went smooth

for me

[dull obsidian]

"you dont get to play teh game anymore" =

[zenith canyon]

ah yes, tha lovely frontier titles

[charred void]

i mean technically not wrong

[dull obsidian]

I DONT GET TO PLAY WITH THE CCS AND DEATH INCARNATES

ITS OVER

[obtuse oyster]

frontier title was a mistake

[charred void]

yes

[obtuse oyster]

and should've been stopped at brel

[fresh flint]

100%

[lunar stag]

because i played with cc players who were human and not kissed kazeros on the mouth while he is preparing a meter attack

[zenith canyon]

funny that if ur 10ilvl below hard, u gonna be INSTA fucked all time after trying to get into hard 3/4 weeks later

[obtuse oyster]

I unironically saw a No sentiel slayer title for nm kaz

nm kaz...

[stable kelp]

thank god they added x3 cubes back

[dull obsidian]

I think if frontier titles didn't exist

logs and gear would fuck over more people

[charred void]

holy shit someone bought cube tickets from f4 shop

[queen grail]

I mean, title from one raid have little value about someones knowledge about other raids.

Also I cleared Kaz HM today after 3 hours with the same grp, 6 of them had reclear title and some of them did more mistakes than me with no title, title have tiny value in showing, ok you know at least some, but not to what degree.

[lunar stag]

how much is this? 1.5 seven?

[obtuse oyster]

it would just go back to how it was before this cringe

[stable kelp]

2x 8

[obtuse oyster]

you either got the x5 or x10 clear title early

[sand marsh]

It would go back to the x10 era.

[obtuse oyster]

or you struggled till you got said x10 title

[sand marsh]

So if you come back to the raid like 1 month after it came out

Same position as frontier basically

[obtuse oyster]

now it's either you get the special title

or you don't

[charred void]

luckily i can just equip this over the cringe fomo titles and get a pass

[zenith canyon]

tldr u didnt clear week1/2 with 6 chars? ur fucked

[sand marsh]

Most people gravitate to x10 after like a month or something.

[obtuse oyster]

yeah, but atleast you can fish for non title runs till x10

[zenith canyon]

bis is asking HARD titles for normals

[sand marsh]

But if you prog the raid late, frontier or not, you're fucked

[queen grail]

There's still a ton of learning grps on EUC

[sand marsh]

Frontier doesn't do anything lol

[obtuse oyster]

but now it's always a preference because a title proved you did something before it got easier

[lunar stag]

man, getting a wild soul to 1710 next week is going be so good! Finally i hwill have 2 characters doing end game and i can start working on my gems

[charred void]

*bought

[obtuse oyster]

real

[dull obsidian]

just have full 7s and important 8s

and then build a full 1680+ roster

too good

[lunar stag]

i am going get my third 8

[dull obsidian]

next week every char has 5 7s anyway

big change

[obtuse oyster]

I feel like kaz might be the exception cause of the x5 title for hm

[sand marsh]

Actually without Frontier, people would just take Death Incarnate only.

Which is actually much harder to get lmao

[dull obsidian]

I mean

hm kaz would literally just be

[obtuse oyster]

and hm being an entirely different raid experience compared to nm

[lunar stag]

i disagree tbh

[dull obsidian]

"1-2 HW OPEN LOGS"

LMAO

[lunar stag]

gate 2 is way easier but hard mode and and normal mode, i underestimate gate 1

[zenith canyon]

i mean i wouldnt be even mad

[lunar stag]

2-1

[midnight marlin]

i like the idea of exclusive rewards for frontier

[sand marsh]

You can't really be deadweight in Kaz HM when the average pugger isn't doing enough dmg to over compensate.

[zenith canyon]

u did good dps and cleared, u get free pass into

[obtuse oyster]

^

[midnight marlin]

which means title since its ez to implment and its right there

[obtuse oyster]

exactly

unless you're in a really juiced run

when most people won't

[lunar stag]

2-2-3 is way harder then 1, but after seeing some videos, kazeros in hm gate 1 stays longer then i thought on the final phase and he dos some nasty attacks there

[fresh flint]

Someone shit on her

[dull obsidian]

2-2 and 2-3 is easier than 2-1 imo

lmao

[sand marsh]

People complained about x10 for eons. I just don't see much of a difference with Frontier. The people complaining don't have as much "time" as the person who grinded.

[dull obsidian]

in hm anyway

[obtuse oyster]

idk why people complained about x10

you can achieve x10 at your own pace

[zenith canyon]

its more about fomo that u could clear within first 1/2 weeks

[dull obsidian]

I think if you are talking about pure difficulty without the stress of being in 2-3

gate 1 hard

[sand marsh]

The issue is that the longer the raid is out, the more x10 is expected

So if you don't prog it when most people do

You're fucked

Same with frontier really lol

[obtuse oyster]

that's hte norm of all the raids

[zenith canyon]

and more rosters with 3+ chars for raid are needed at start

[charred void]

like me who had no time to prog on most raid releases

[queen grail]

We should go back to Old Raid way's fr fr, next raid, 6 gate's, + no revives and only 10x title if you clear the last gate @obtuse oyster fr fr

[sand marsh]

Is it fomo when you only need 2 weeks to clear it?

Sounds like enough time to me

[undone summit]

... @charred void. Seriously. You've already given @fresh flint enough reputation. I can only process so much love for one user.

[obtuse oyster]

some people would be cooked with no resses

[charred void]

unless its not

[dull obsidian]

tbf double raid release kinda made it 1 week for a lot of people

[zenith canyon]

welp not if its within MAJOR holiday so

[dull obsidian]

lol

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/too-good-you-cant-sit-gif-4478253163383314257

[queen grail]

[dull obsidian]

I think they should've just released Act 4 + TFM with locked nm/hm kaz

[obtuse oyster]

^

yeah

[fresh flint]

he likes meth

[dull obsidian]

bunch of baby yappers who werent even going to race anyway

crying for 0 reason

[lunar stag]

why?

[dull obsidian]

ruined it for the rest of the players

[sand marsh]

Did people expect to push this raid out even farther? That'd be crazy lol.

[queen grail]

2 raid's at once, + new season of fun, + new stuff was just a stupid af move.

[zenith canyon]

u kinda HAD to prog 2 diff raids same week

[obtuse oyster]

this is the one time I think they shouldn't have capiulated to the demands of the top 10%

[queen grail]

[dull obsidian]

wasn't even top 10%

it was everyone in every bracket of the game

[lunar stag]

but act 4 is a joke?

[zenith canyon]

i mean its fucked no matter when it was out, but 2 raids same week was rough

[queen grail]

For you*.

[dull obsidian]

Act 4 HM -> Kaz HM was not fun for a lot of people

lmao

[zenith canyon]

not in hard for first week

[obtuse oyster]

it was only the people wanting to race and do tfm wanting it to be pushed up

[sand marsh]

Act 4 is one of the easier Kazeros Raids

Cleared it about the same time as Aegir

[obtuse oyster]

and then the idiots who wanted kaz on release instead of being locked out like kr

[sand marsh]

Brel and Mordum was for sure more difficult.

[obtuse oyster]

which just made it worse

[dull obsidian]

no it was a lot of people

lmao

[lunar stag]

is this even a debate?

[dull obsidian]

like look at the current race

THEY HAD 2 WEEKS OF PRACTICE

AND TOP 10 ISNT FILLED IN 2 WEEKS

[lunar stag]

echidna and mordum are the only raids to get mechs nerfed

[charred void]

people have different download speed, i cleared my prog with 3 people(me including) alive almost hitting enrage act4

[lunar stag]

brel i think it was only hp nerf?

[queen grail]

Sure, but they also didn't release Brell & Mordum at the same day.

[zenith canyon]

WITH GUIDES

[sand marsh]

Some people think all of them are difficult. And in that case, those people aren't built for hard mode.

Nothing wrong with sticking to normal lol.

[obtuse oyster]

yes, two groups of people wanting two things and AGS deciding to meet them in the middle

[sand marsh]

I guess these people are egotistical.

Shrug

[zenith canyon]

say that to shitters asking hard titles in normal lobbys

[obtuse oyster]

instead of just letting kaz hm/nm be locked out for the first week while people did tfm

[charred void]

always were

[zenith canyon]

and they still fucked it

[dull obsidian]

I think the loud argument was that people also wanted more cores earlier

[zenith canyon]

more lege cores

[queen grail]

Much better to vomit out content with fomo titles locked between the same week and tell people to git gud.

[sand marsh]

Well I'm talking about peolpe who treat frontier as "fomo" and think Kaz HM/Act 4 HM is really hard. They should just stick to normal.

[dull obsidian]

I mean tbf

[sand marsh]

I see plenty of 1730s just doing normal kaz.

[dull obsidian]

did you even need to do paradise

[obtuse oyster]

go prog with the shit I've seen in hm

[dull obsidian]

just hit the boss and die in paradise week 1 and 2

lmao

[obtuse oyster]

and players will make the raid harder than it is

[queen grail]

Some people go for rank.

Nothing wrong with that.

[sand marsh]

Yeah this only proves my point. You are playing with idiots lol.

Those idiots should just do normal zzzzz

[zenith canyon]

like u, and end up with 0 silver

[obtuse oyster]

but they won't and that's the issue

[sand marsh]

There's two difficulties for a reason

[obtuse oyster]

people over estimate there skill and hands

[queen grail]

Man This raid was so easy on my 1750 Overgeared group when It's tuned for 1720 I don't get how anyone can struggle here.

[charred void]

you got any hell raids done

[obtuse oyster]

and rather waste other people time

[sand marsh]

That's partly why I believe Frontier isn't as big of an issue as people make it out to be.

[queen grail]

[sand marsh]

If hard mode was the only difficulty.

Then I would agree.

[queen grail]

Listen here you little shit.

I got silver.

[obtuse oyster]

it'll get balanced out since they're doing nightmare difficulty now

[queen grail]

See! Many silver! @zenith canyon

[zenith canyon]

just dont waste silver, thats simple

[queen grail]

[sand marsh]

Yeah true.

[fresh flint]

holy shit youre broke

[obtuse oyster]

people who can only clear hard will do hard

[dull obsidian]

thats the issue tho

you can ALREADY SEE

[obtuse oyster]

people who can clear nightmare will just gatekeep people who can't clear nightmare

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-gif-25836431

[dull obsidian]

THE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT BEING UNABLE TO DO NIGHTMARE

like

its so fucking doomed

this community

[fresh flint]

https://i.imgflip.com/aebkk2.gif

[sand marsh]

Wait people are already complaining about that?

[obtuse oyster]

yes

[dull obsidian]

no there will be

[zenith canyon]

i mean this comm is just fucked by self fomoing

[queen grail]

Can't wait for this.

Will befun.

[fresh flint]

Nightmare?

[sand marsh]

Bro less than 10% of the playerbase will be doing nightmare.

Are they stupid?

[fresh flint]

There's a new mode?

[dull obsidian]

less than 3% will be doing nightmare

lmao

[queen grail]

Even baldy won't do nightmare.

[obtuse oyster]

with shadowraid

[queen grail]

[sand marsh]

No I will do it.

[zenith canyon]

well, will be, with T4 soft reset

[obtuse oyster]

they'll have three difficulties

[sand marsh]

I love challenging content lmao.

[fresh flint]

Oh wow I cant wait to see that

[vagrant cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-cat-kitty-cool-hi-gif-18278845067688026866

[obtuse oyster]

with nightmare being close to tfm in terms of difficulty

[queen grail]

Link your TFM title.

Right meow.

[zenith canyon]

where tfm clear?

[lunar stag]

i doubt

[sand marsh]

I've been pugging it. Same as Thaemine TFM.

[fresh flint]

I cant wait for the new raid in general she looks so fun

[lunar stag]

this is a 4 man raid

[tulip charm]

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-wahlberg-smh-shake-head-no-nope-gif-17582268

[fresh flint]

Also the new Argos raid...AHHH

[lunar stag]

this shit is getting wiped out of the face of the earth with ark grid

[queen grail]

AYO wtf @wintry depot

[obtuse oyster]

not really, they can easily tune it

more hp, additional patterns and mechs, no reses

[zenith canyon]

she wont respond, she sleep

[sand marsh]

No one has cleared TFM yet with full on pugs and no pre-made or half-premade.

[lunar stag]

i don't think they going tune it

[queen grail]

Imagine not clearing TFM You have guides lmao just look at a video

[sand marsh]

I don't have a team so I just apply whenever i see lobbies up

And there's hardly any lobbies up.

[queen grail]

[sand marsh]

Cause most are waiting until ark grid.

[lunar stag]

i said this about ark grid when they revealed it, the nextraid will not be balanced around it, and it will get easily wiped, now it being revealed to be 4 man, its even easier

[sand marsh]

My selection of people, is the same 10 or so people I see all the time.

[zenith canyon]

not like any random even wants to get into tfm

[sand marsh]

And 99% of them are dog shit

So I can't really make any insane progress lol

[dull obsidian]

like me aga..

[queen grail]

WhyYouNoMakeStatic

Mister 4k Paladin man why you no get an establised fun grp

[sand marsh]

I also crashed out yesterday

[charred void]

🤏

[queen grail]

You almost cleared G2-1 on TFM?

[dull obsidian]

I forgot

what did you wipe on

[queen grail]

Or, wait, is this G1?

[dull obsidian]

abyss lord is g1

[zenith canyon]

g1

[queen grail]

[dull obsidian]

G1 tfm is actually hard as fuck

[queen grail]

I forgot

[dull obsidian]

lol

[lunar stag]

g1 final phase has a wipe

[worldly hawk]

[zenith canyon]

[tulip charm]

chance to clear tfm 5%, chance of a static imploding while doing the race = 500%

[lunar stag]

i forget what it is, i think you fail to counter

[obtuse oyster]

The next raid is coming out after ark grid, they’ll easily tune nightmare for having good gear and grid level

[dull obsidian]

?

[sand marsh]

2 people ded. (No sidereal in phase 3 on TFM btw). 1minute left. x8. full identity. Someone failed 3 just guards, 100 bil shield. GG

[obtuse oyster]

Nm will be a cake walk like it always is

[queen grail]

Just don't make a static with babies that crash out

[dull obsidian]

G1 final phase doesn't have a wipe

what

what misinfo are you spreading..

[charred void]

chance people keep yapping that the game is too easy and has no hard content 1000%

[dull obsidian]

unless you're talking about 100x

[obtuse oyster]

And hm will just be scaled to w/e they expect a dps to have gear wise at that ilvl

[dull obsidian]

100x is easy as fuck

[sand marsh]

^^

[lunar stag]

what gate 1 has a wipe in the last phase

[sand marsh]

Take ball, press G when he lunges.

[dull obsidian]

?

[sand marsh]

2nd person do the same thing

[dull obsidian]

what wipe

[undone summit]

... @ebon snow. Seriously. You've already given @charred void enough reputation. I can only process so much love for one user.

[sand marsh]

wow, mech cleared

[dull obsidian]

tell me

kazeros final phase is just a check on how many people are left

and landing jgs

[obtuse oyster]

Akkan

[queen grail]

Oh, that 100x thing?

[sand marsh]

The only actual wipe mechanic is x700, x500 and no one taking clash.

[queen grail]

That's in hardmode too.

[sand marsh]

Everything else just does massive damage.

[lunar stag]

ii don't know what it is, because it only happened 1 time to me

[dull obsidian]

btw

is

[queen grail]

Brell.

[dull obsidian]

the huge pillar an instant kill with no DR in tfm?

[midnight marlin]

theres an invisible comma between what and gate

[sand marsh]

pillar?

[tulip charm]

i missed everything, the thread got deleted -_-

https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/1pld7y4/the_tldr_of_how_stoopzs_tfm_group_boomed/

[dull obsidian]

where its side safe

[queen grail]

Stoopz TFM grp boomed?

[lunar stag]

ther is a wipe because everybody just died, like it wasn't even awave or attack

[queen grail]

I AM SHOCKED

[obtuse oyster]

Brel didn’t have one

[dull obsidian]

he slashes forward -> forward slash again with explosion behind him

[queen grail]

oh, only in G1

[obtuse oyster]

Once you cleared counter

[queen grail]

[sand marsh]

Oh the front, then back, then line front/back?

[obtuse oyster]

It was dps check

[dull obsidian]

ye

[sand marsh]

No it isn't. Ez DR

[queen grail]

No offence to stoopy boy he's a decent streamer, but raider.

Njaaa.

[lunar stag]

oh

[queen grail]

He's, above average but only a smidge above.

[lunar stag]

wait

[obtuse oyster]

Akkan g1 had the counter pattern where you wipe if you failed it

[sand marsh]

Only X, co-op counter and chains are instant kills @dull obsidian . Cannot DR. Impossible.

[tulip charm]

youve missed everything with the cass drama didn't you

[queen grail]

Yes.

[dull obsidian]

wtf is X

[midnight marlin]

meter patterns

[sand marsh]

The big X slash he does?

Blue X?

[dull obsidian]

OH

[sand marsh]

yeee

[lunar stag]

yeah i am like 100% this a wip because even the cc guy was onfused, thi was nm

[dull obsidian]

its an instant kill in tfm?

[sand marsh]

yep

cannot DR

same with co-op counter and chains

you can TS, but cannot DR

[dull obsidian]

maybe thats the pattern I misrembered watching KR prog

[lunar stag]

its damage check wipe that you can't time stop it seems

[dull obsidian]

X

what damage check wipe in kaz in there

that you can't timestop

wtf?

[lunar stag]

ther ewas no damage it was just wipe screen, like second counter super nova

[sand marsh]

He's talking about basement, puddle into co-op counter. then boss has shield that u gotta burn within 2 telegraphs.

[lunar stag]

there was no wave or anything

[sand marsh]

It's a random attack.

And it can be timestomped.

[ebon snow]

What did we miss in that reddit thread

[dull obsidian]

is this tfm only?

wtf is that

[sand marsh]

No

Let me send clip Ishy

I have all attacks clipped.

[lunar stag]

no its not that mech

this was after the just guard and counter

[midnight marlin]

jesus

[lunar stag]

just guards*

[dull obsidian]

OH

[midnight marlin]

all 4 of you are talking about different things

[dull obsidian]

is the coop counter the one where there is constantly X on the floor every 3s

and if you dont counter him

[tawny lion]

Guard then counter

[dull obsidian]

it just blows up

lmao

[sand marsh]

@dull obsidian

[dull obsidian]

at the end of the pattern

[lunar stag]

that mech boi is talknig about has a wave that you cna time stop

[dull obsidian]

ngl

I Didn't even know

he had a shield during this

[lunar stag]

this was no attack, it was likecountering supernova during the second hold

[sand marsh]

In TFM u just need 3 people to hit the boss

[lunar stag]

instant wipe

[sand marsh]

then it's finished

[sand marsh]

I have all attacks clipped, nothing your describing exists lol

Unless you are explaining it very poorly.

[zenith canyon]

that might be true

[midnight marlin]

do you have sacrifice

[sand marsh]

Yes.

[midnight marlin]

g1 sac

not g2

[lunar stag]

i matellnig you it after just guards and counter pattern where a player is marked

[sand marsh]

Oh, yeah. Though that's pretty rare unless infinite people get telekenesis'd

[midnight marlin]

yeah ive only seen it happen in one pull idk wtf was going on

[fresh flint]

why is she so ugly

[midnight marlin]

and yeah there is a wipe g1 @dull obsidian

misseed counter after full meter

[lunar stag]

there is is 100% a wipe in the last phase, i just don't know what it is, even the cc guy leading was confused

[charred void]

why did you wipe

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[fresh flint]

white as snow

face only a mom could love

[sand marsh]

The way this works is if the boss has 4-5 stacks of the Shield Debuff. In Phase 3, he will teleport to the top, 1 person will get marked and grabbed.
If co-op counter does not happen, he does a massive frontal attack.

[dull obsidian]

?

[queen grail]

I mean, I can't complain if you've seen my WS

[dull obsidian]

how does anyone miss this

[midnight marlin]

im in this picture and i dont like it

[dull obsidian]

you gotta be stupid to miss that

[midnight marlin]

being shit

[queen grail]

so mean, she's pepocute

[dull obsidian]

boss literally FACES YOU

[sand marsh]

wait what

[fresh flint]

ugly as shit*

[dull obsidian]

and does 5 just guards

then counter

[midnight marlin]

i was bard

[lunar stag]

he didn't do any attack, and i was behind him as most of my party

[sand marsh]

huh? i had no clue lol wtf

[midnight marlin]

he actually jsut doesnt check is discord messages

i even told you in raid

check your messages

[sand marsh]

No there is an attack

And it's not a wipe....

Nothing in phase 3 wipes the entire party.

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/meanie-cat-cat-meanie-cat-meanie-mean-cat-gif-10599680892698519833

[midnight marlin]

missed counter for full meter wipes

[sand marsh]

People just died because you stood in front of him.

[sand marsh]

No it doesn't.

Missing it doesn't do anything.

Don't even get an extra shield

[dull obsidian]

he just blasts his front

[sand marsh]

Yeah he'll blast a bit sooner

That's about it.

[lunar stag]

do you have this recorded?

[sand marsh]

I titled it as something weird because I didn't know what it was at the time.

I'd have to find it.

[queen grail]

3 jumps to get to floor 10 is criminal

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-failure-fail-dance-faceplant-gif-2698045660139904364

[queen grail]

My shadowhunter also only jumped ass.

But at least she got gold each time

[dull obsidian]

cubes done nice

[stable kelp]

honest work

[dull obsidian]

@sand marsh how many top 10 spots are locked

[tulip charm]

@dull obsidian isn't all of them locked up already?

[sand marsh]

8

probably gets filled before reset

a few cleares happened yesterday

and dopa cleared today

[dull obsidian]

I dont think

dopa is clean

tbh

[sand marsh]

nah he is

he's very degen like Zur is

just many alt accounts

[dull obsidian]

when you have 80 botted accounts sending you gold

I think its cooked

[sand marsh]

And zur is top 10

[dire patio]

Kinda annoying the degens cant clear it fast enough so we can get it done with ark grid

[sand marsh]

Yeah zur does the same thing

Neither of them bot thtough lol

And zur is like #6 confirmed

[zenith canyon]

be glad, ags send u hard without needing to clear TFM

[dull obsidian]

funny thing is

hm and tfm are 2 different fights again

its hilarious

tfm only pattern in 2-3

some patterns just have added bs

[sand marsh]

Ark Grid will make it a bit easier, but x500 will be a massive, enormous jail for 99% of people.

[dull obsidian]

mechs are faster or slower

[sand marsh]

You cannot cheese x500 g1 in TFM.

[dire patio]

I am tfm g2 but I just dont have time to waste on it anymore

[dull obsidian]

goat

wtf

[sand marsh]

There's like no one really doing it. So yeah even in g2, you have no one to really run with

I can see why you want ark grid to be out already for it but uh

It'll take a while before people get to gate 2 lol

[dire patio]

Yeah no static makes it hard

But I also dont want to waste anymore time lol

[sand marsh]

yep, im in the same boat xdd

[dire patio]

Farm ark grid clear before it closes

Same outcome even if I clear next week

[neon cedar]

@fresh flint Do you have nay act 4/kazeros?

[dull obsidian]

I'm surprised you 2 still play the game

lmao

[worldly hawk]

[neon cedar]

Me?

[dull obsidian]

ye

holy shit

its my goat

desert

[neon cedar]

[midnight marlin]

xd

[neon cedar]

we're all still playing the game

[charred void]

[worldly hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mom-mama-mother-lick-gif-13059778370190649168

[undone summit]

@worldly hawk gave @charred void +1 reputation.

[worldly hawk]

more or less i might just hybernate until guardian knight

just blast my raids on wednesday and then dissapear

[queen grail]

Burning out is just weakness.

[charred void]

solo brel, mordum then only 8 raids left to do with npcs per week

[queen grail]

Imagine burning out.

[worldly hawk]

i have to do hardmodes so i have to play with NPC almost all of my raids

[dull obsidian]

I started playing with friensd again

I am so back

nuke hm mordum 6x

nuke armoche (pepega raid) 6x fast

gatekeep kazeros and it will be easy clear

because idk how people struggle with 2-1

[fresh flint]

I have an Act 4 on my Pistoleer

[neon cedar]

Any interest in running it? I gotta do my mains raids at some point

[fresh flint]

I'm down now, yeah

[midnight marlin]

oh i thought we were front

[fresh flint]

I just got out of brel

[obtuse oyster]

I’m stacking with you guys what do you mean

[slender sky]

solo brel, solo mordum and act4 nm is a goated rotation of raids if youre just out for quick gold without any stress

[neon cedar]

Okii, all the groups are lf support atm

[fresh flint]

Ok ill go smoke rq

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1446722834444582984/image0.gif

I open tomorrow

Zz

[obtuse oyster]

Throw in a kaz nm if they’re 1710

[queen grail]

don't be that guy.

[obtuse oyster]

Cause that raid is giga free

[fresh flint]

Ye Kz nm, armoredcoochie and mord are fun to do

First rotation ive enjoyed 100%

[queen grail]

You starting HM prog soson?

[dull obsidian]

no

literally

[fresh flint]

... no. fuck no. absolutely not.

[dull obsidian]

people struggle with nm 2-1

[slender sky]

with the amount of groups of g2 i see in pf im not so sure about that

[fresh flint]

Kz is prob the only raid I wont try Hard on

[obtuse oyster]

Om

[queen grail]

I know, It's not that weird, a ton of things in 2-1 can kill you if you're not experienced

[sand marsh]

Normal kaz is pretty chill

[dull obsidian]

My chaos conquerors shouldn't be dead

[queen grail]

[sand marsh]

Perfect difficutly imo

[dull obsidian]

before 550x

multiple times

[obtuse oyster]

There are rats joining nm reclears to go hm2

[dull obsidian]

players shouldnt be struggling to stack for stagger

and then say "I WAS STACKING THO"

[queen grail]

buddy ThunderLord's still die on Mordum G1

[obtuse oyster]

But probably enough bad players jailing others at 500 mech

[dull obsidian]

players shouldn't be standing on the opposite of 7 people after lobby lead called "stack back" 2 times

and then say "I THOUGHT WE WERE STACKING FRONT THO"

[queen grail]

There's people's of a wide range of skills in this game fr fr

[dull obsidian]

ok but even if no one called anything

you see 7 people on the back

why are you on the front

you are a striker

[fresh flint]

I still struggle in 500x because his X mechs catch me off guard. But overall pretty content with my raids rn

[queen grail]

I mean, ye that's silly, tho you can do that.

[dull obsidian]

you want to be on the back regardless?

[queen grail]

We had a GL front 6 ppl back and Arcana side

[dull obsidian]

like its fine

if he dashes out before the stagger finishes

but he stunned half the raid lobby

[queen grail]

Just stay max-range on your attack as stagger is finishing and it's np

[queen grail]

500x What gate are we talking about?

[charred void]

i had CC arcana jumping around in normal g2 kaz donut stagger???

literally at the side

[dull obsidian]

yeh

literally full of shitters everywhere

[queen grail]

[dull obsidian]

idk how 2-1 is a struggle

[queen grail]

because not everyone is a GigaChad gamer as you Ishy

https://tenor.com/view/scarface-bad-guy-relax-take-it-easy-gif-13360981

[obtuse oyster]

me when the raid lead SH was dying at 900 and during walls

don't know how

honestly

[queen grail]

You know what's sexy on 900x?

A Gunlancer.

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-shock-gif-6475834490877121384

[obtuse oyster]

yeah, only a handful of those pugging

[charred void]

you mean the thing you benched for another hoe on page 1

[vagrant cradle]

everyone wants a gunlancer but no one wants to play a gunlancer

[queen grail]

tf, ma man's actual name getting blocked, this world is cooked.

[queen grail]

Ey, I'm still honing him.

See

[charred void]

disgusting blue lancer

[queen grail]

[queen grail]

I was with one who was really good.

To bad he didn't use +1 fast enough on our one maybe clear

ExcFuckingScuseMe

[charred void]

what

crit rng

[queen grail]

My char is both really lucky and really unlucky.

[charred void]

valk is 7sec

[fresh flint]

@neon cedar I am back

[queen grail]

3 Relic 5 Legendary and ZERO FUCKING 9+

Can't do shit with no Lv.9 Chalice

[charred void]

here are some 9s

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-good-one-funny-lol-xd-gif-18827784

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-i-will-kill-whisper-i-will-cut-you-gif-20241258

I'm going to lose my border

[neon cedar]

Okii, not really any good lobbies up unless youre 1900 whale cp

[zenith canyon]

sure with ur rng its even W u had border

[fresh flint]

Sadly am 1.8k

[zenith canyon]

cant do shit with this

AND this is highest i even have

[fresh flint]

Pov Armoche lobbies

[zenith canyon]

thats OMEGA BAD rng

0 fucking lege this week

[queen grail]

Also, you made something Lv.9

That you can't resonance.

I did that mistake too.

[zenith canyon]

i mean i couldnt tap that fucker (lege)

it was when others were 7

[queen grail]

Then you save

[zenith canyon]

i dont

care

[queen grail]

[shell kettle]

can anyone help explain why my gear transfer to t4 didn't transfer the ilvls

[zenith canyon]

without relic i cant get into top100

[queen grail]

You got more Ilvl's.

[zenith canyon]

cuz u had +18

tap old to 19

then transfer

[queen grail]

Oh, wait, I'm tired.

[neon cedar]

Its not +19/1620

[shell kettle]

oh...

[fresh flint]

@neon cedar

Wanna just try?

[neon cedar]

That might be are only option atm

[vagrant cradle]

meanwhile my characters all basically have around 400k paradise power

[fresh flint]

A 2k cs applied

[neon cedar]

Sure

[fresh flint]

Ok yeah

[queen grail]

I think I have one char in top 30

[fresh flint]

We should be good

[queen grail]

But I don't remember.

[fresh flint]

Oh yeah

[queen grail]

I do, but, I mean, she's going to fall out @zenith canyon

[zenith canyon]

frick 1m power

if next reset wont give me ANY relic i will be OMEGA MAD

[queen grail]

Got 4 char's in top 100 now

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-dumb-cat-blank-stare-what-gif-14061962810839750521

[zenith canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/remy-ratatouille-retch-disgust-gross-gif-14569875120622353920

[queen grail]

Or, might be 5.

But I pick ticket a lot

[charred void]

[queen grail]

@charred void I'm the healer now.

[zenith canyon]

[queen grail]

Holy lopang value @charred void

[fresh flint]

ooo a leg core

wut is it

FOR ENHANCED WEAPON

OMEGALUL

[worldly hawk]

[charred void]

thx4inv

[queen grail]

[worldly hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1443673469903700050.webp?size=96&animated=true

[fresh flint]

https://i.imgflip.com/aebkk2.gif

[worldly hawk]

https://i.imgflip.com/aebkk2.gif

[charred void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855703067901952030/1447296567391420579/4K_2025_Winter_Showcase_Official_Trailer.gif

[queen grail]

I, shaved away some time.

[zenith canyon]

some?

thats 2 fucking seconds

[queen grail]

Ye, I don't know how, I didn't even have 100% crit on stuff

But ey, if I can keep top 30

[zenith canyon]

bis week

[queen grail]

I have some alts like this too.

One of my alt's didn't kill the boss even

[zenith canyon]

[worldly hawk]

my destro barely killed the boss

iirc it was 59.97

[zenith canyon]

[queen grail]

Ye my SF got him to like, 10x

[zenith canyon]

[worldly hawk]

a few attempts before that i got the boss to 4000 hp

and ran out of time

i should stop playing hack and slay dungeon crawlers

[covert remnant]

As usual 90% of the people are playing head attack build on DK.
Transformation classes need some love man

[worldly hawk]

my sleeping rythm is not thanking me

[queen grail]

I'm going to play the build that shows her personality the most

[worldly hawk]

[undone summit]

@worldly hawk gave @queen grail +1 reputation.

[covert remnant]

You and me brother, you and me

[worldly hawk]

well her identity in head attack is kind of.... how should i put this

broken as fuuck

[zenith canyon]

[worldly hawk]

breaker ident just better

[fresh flint]

@neon cedar That's a first for me

Never seen the Side kill him before

[neon cedar]

Week 2 I didnt even see the hedgehog. He was dead after the JG mech

[worldly hawk]

i read "that's fisting me" i should REALLY go to sleep

[fresh flint]

Yeah probably

[ebon snow]

Top45% not even boss killed?

[worldly hawk]

[fresh flint]

Wanna do your mord?

[worldly hawk]

majority of people just tap the first boss once to get 3 blue keys

[neon cedar]

We did my hm mord

[fresh flint]

Oh

I mean I can try nm kaz on this guy

[ebon snow]

Im top45% on aero with a good time, the same time is top10% for another character

[neon cedar]

Pog, time well wasted

[fresh flint]

Also why is the disparity of astrogems so wild? Like what the FUCK

[undone summit]

... @charred void. Seriously. You've already given @neon cedar enough reputation. I can only process so much love for one user.

[ebon snow]

Some classes are handicapped it seems

[neon cedar]

Only 20 more weeks to pity

[obtuse oyster]

om

[charred void]

remember to buy boxes for 2 more epic cores

[obtuse oyster]

some classes just have more pop than others that are trying

[broken lava]

you don't buy?

[neon cedar]

Ill make sure to do that asap

[fresh flint]

Fk them boxes

[neon cedar]

No, Im not wasting 10k on 2 pity points

[fresh flint]

@neon cedar Leash me into a kaz lobby uwu

[neon cedar]

We can try

[fresh flint]

I mean there are 1.6k cs lobbies

We'll get in fine

Maybe I can go unbind 2 gems real quick and use em

[worldly hawk]

in korea 1.7k cp was the min no?

[fresh flint]

Let me see rq

[neon cedar]

Oh well the only lobby filled

[fresh flint]

saddies

idk i only care about korea when balance patches drop

the rest can disappear

[worldly hawk]

@fresh flint where cinder

show

[fresh flint]

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-monkey-3amskypecall-monkey-gif-6610262280188410503

[queen grail]

Go kiss your cat from us and tell it's from Discord chat @fresh flint

[neon cedar]

Tell him its from Braden

[worldly hawk]

[fresh flint]

ok

[neon cedar]

[worldly hawk]

[queen grail]

wow, trying to steal all the love

[fresh flint]

That was a waste of silver

Those 8s did nothing for my cs lol

[neon cedar]

F, not worth

[fresh flint]

Well

I went from 1789 to 1850

xD

[neon cedar]

O this person has the new theme

[fresh flint]

This is niceeee

[neon cedar]

Damn, this is a really nice theme but it would never work with my sh setup

I would have to redecorate

[fresh flint]

time to redecorate

Damn this lobby is juiced

[neon cedar]

Nahh. I dont have 160k to buy it to begin with

[fresh flint]

He was cooking while I was gem rolling

My least favorite mech

Holy fuck

@neon cedar look at me go

I hate g1

Blah

[neon cedar]

Is that 5 clears?

[fresh flint]

I think so

I'm not sure

Well, yeah it has to be

Me thinks

🤔

[neon cedar]

Legendary brand efficiency core woooow

[fresh flint]

LEmme see what mine was

[neon cedar]

This ark grid thing is pretttty exciting guys

[fresh flint]

L

[swift tree]

That achievement is just the MSQ one

[fresh flint]

wha

[neon cedar]

ahh

[fresh flint]

I dont even do msq on this character anymore

[swift tree]

Nah it's like:
Clear Kazeos Prologue
Clear Denoument: Final Day
Finish ???? Final Stand (24th Dec in KR quest)

[queen grail]

[swift tree]

tl;dr process of Kazeros stealing The *Ark, us stealing it back and then using it on him

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-pudgy-pudgypenguins-card-lil-gif-5937386085645337824

[fresh flint]

G2 is fun

[neon cedar]

What a shit fight

[fresh flint]

G1 is ass

[neon cedar]

Must be nice

[fresh flint]

ANOTHER FUCKING EW CORE

this game is pure shit

[neon cedar]

Yes

[fresh flint]

Saddies, at least I got more gold this week

[neon cedar]

Thats why I did it

Not like Im gonna be able to activate a good core anyway

[fresh flint]

Well not until pity anyways

500 years later

[neon cedar]

I wont be able to activate those either. I dont get astrogems

[fresh flint]

you dont do chaos/guardian?

[neon cedar]

I do

& I dont get astrogems

[fresh flint]

yeah my de has infinite green gems

[neon cedar]

Im not burning gold on the green turds

[fresh flint]

and like a total of less than 10 blue/purple

I havent cut a single one on him since the system dropped

Alr, 3 chaos dungeons and im off to bed

[neon cedar]

I got a couple fate embers week 1 with purples and thats the only reason I have what I have now

[fresh flint]

Id take that in a heartbeat

ugh

[high fog]

why the reaper tho

[fresh flint]

but

but

gems

[high fog]

its my rat im never playing it

[fresh flint]

still

gems best

157 blue card packs would make me crash out

🥰

[high fog]

books is best for that char

but ill take cards

its prob 2nd best for me

[neon cedar]

How much xp is a dupe. I bet its worth

[high fog]

i hit 8 legos i need

xp not that much

[fresh flint]

ah, my heart

💑

[vagrant cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/munchkin-attack-mean-cat-mean-cat-attack-short-cat-short-cat-attack-gif-14421555173154849620

[zenith canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-gif-1179534950139604809

[fresh flint]

YES YES YES YES YES

HOLY FUCKKKK

@obtuse oyster

@neon cedar Lookie, big chest

💃🏼

[neon cedar]

I see

[queen grail]

[fresh flint]

like my chest?

[queen grail]

You have a nice big chest

[fresh flint]

2 lv 6s is juicy

Too bad it takes an eternity to craft 8s

[dull obsidian]

biggest issue lmao