lost-ark-discussions

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-homer-simpson-jesus-allah-gif-15287690728791723381

[fallow marlin]

she looks like a head dps

[swift tree]

she is

[fallow marlin]

hmm

[west latch]

she is there is a video

explaining skills

https://youtu.be/ghT_xFbR1BE?si=obtgNJy9TgXDx-d3

use the ai translate

[swift tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghT_xFbR1BE

[fallow marlin]

ah didnt see that

[slender sky]

at least one engraving is yea

[fallow marlin]

true

ai overlord

[burnt tree]

Same. We can get a good grasp since our patches are similar

[west latch]

she has transformation build and a build that focuses on empowering her halbert

[burnt tree]

But its not definitive

[covert remnant]

Why AI, when we have our boi memo has the video

[west latch]

halbert build seems charge heavy and front attack

[burnt tree]

Halbert is defo tank build

[west latch]

idk xd

[burnt tree]

She had those shields

[slender sky]

yea she has some GL-esque shield stance

[west latch]

ye

[swift tree]

gotta wait unti March for this shit

[west latch]

so barricade engraving maybe + supercharge

[burnt tree]

Fuck AGS

[covert remnant]

The Z is like 30% Max hp shield and 5sec dr

[slender sky]

looks like some fancy gl/destro hybrid with tittays

[charred void]

grab while you can

[burnt tree]

I'll play dragon spec all g

[brittle hawk]

i got mine for 100k in total a while agk

[covert remnant]

Also the Z is like 1 sec cooldown......but consumes half of meter so can't spam

[brittle hawk]

Who are said march

[swift tree]

RU

[west latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372594495123750994/1447531249639096391/image.png?ex=6937f607&is=6936a487&hm=afdc8b572f8fc2d57485608482937432212a5a39796a2d4c9871521c128bc8a2&

[brittle hawk]

Anyways when does it release in kr

[swift tree]

24th December

[fallow marlin]

btw isnt that dlss thing a big deal i wonder why they just breeze through on the stream

[west latch]

in 2 days

[charred void]

thats too late to grab now

[fallow marlin]

i remember hearing it while working

[brittle hawk]

I shoulda just bought the shit LMAO

[swift tree]

nope, KR gets MSQ on Xmas eve

[west latch]

ye i got barricade alrdy

[west latch]

ah mb thought new class

[brittle hawk]

i have barricade and stable status

i use stable on my arcanoid

[covert remnant]

Arcanoid

New class, mecha mage

[swift tree]

why the fuck is the Mokoko title 500 this time around

[slender sky]

did he even mention it at all? i thought ppl only noticed at the end screen roadmap

[fallow marlin]

he did in like 1 sentence

how the game is gonna support dlss

and he just went to the next topic

[slender sky]

his presentation overall

[zenith canyon]

its nice cuz most ue3 doesnt support dlss/fsr

[slender sky]

was awful

even for his standards

[fallow marlin]

eh

so far in kr

[zenith canyon]

he said at start hes better at OFFLINE than this so

[fallow marlin]

the reaction is

its one of his best

so far

[slender sky]

kr really is a weird community

[fallow marlin]

just different standards

[quiet flower]

Bruh I sold one yesterday for 2.5k

[fallow marlin]

also compared to the 3 main games

in kr right now

lost ark is probably 2nd interms of presentation

but first in content volume

DFO director barely even talks

and the host does everything

[charred void]

[slender sky]

that legitimately reminded me of some 8th grade power point presentation where you just read the 3 notes that are on the slide and move to the next, no filled in details at all. everything is up in the air

[fallow marlin]

i think thats mainly because of gold river

going way too detailed

but honestly

this is like standard dev guy

public speaking

[slender sky]

ngl sorim caster carries those events filling in in awkward moments

[zenith canyon]

bis reward

[charred void]

please man, i really don't want to do 20x t3 towers now for roster xp

[zenith canyon]

uh i might have to do it

[swift tree]

inb4 those purple "spikes" chasing the player is every sidereal dead

[fallow marlin]

one thing i hated about gold river is he overpromises but always underdelivers but somehow gets away with it words atleast this director straight up tells you what to expect

[slender sky]

daily unas survived for years just so weekly unas could die in months

[swift tree]

dont forget the part where Goldriver would also straight up bs you

[surreal gyro]

ye idk why people glaze gold river so much lmao

the game had so many bad systems with him around

[fallow marlin]

homework was one

[swift tree]

"Hey we're going to be doing this for X reason"
-> Actually does the exact opposite and it makes problem worse

[fallow marlin]

it actually makes alot of sense if you see who he looks up to as a game dev

[surreal gyro]

do you guys remember original tripods? UHUM

[fallow marlin]

and thats yoship which alot of ff14 players will tell you

is a hardheaded mofo

[swift tree]

I was going to say God Howard

[slender sky]

goldriver was very charismatic, but his game identity was trash. game wouldve been a lot worse if he stayed

[fallow marlin]

its funny how this loaon is probably the final patch where the mistakes of season 2

[surreal gyro]

ppl say that our current bozo is very adamand and doesnt change, but since he has taken charge they have always changed the game to aleviate some issues (although at a smaller pace)

[fallow marlin]

is almost all cleaned up

theres like 3 glaring issues i dont think they can ever fix

cards engravings and gems

[surreal gyro]

to be fair

[west latch]

imagin we get the china gacha to christmas

[surreal gyro]

we completed our T4 card sets within 1 year

and back in loa launch it took us 1 year just for LoS

u did what?

[swift tree]

They were made during Goldrivers time

[slender sky]

cards are not that much of a problem anymore imo. they shower us at every corner (dunno how it looks in kr), engravings true thats a problem, gems would be an easy fix if kr didnt treat the game like stock market

[fallow marlin]

the thing is its really not

because of laws

[swift tree]

Goldriver left too close to Voldis' release

[surreal gyro]

yeah idk i think card generation is okey you dont do any "to yorn runs" or farm card islands

[swift tree]

he left winter LOA, then Voldis came out Feb of next year- elixirs would have already been conceptualised by then

[fallow marlin]

once a game company sells something for money like gems

its almost impossible to just get rid of it

[surreal gyro]

idk if u noticed but they added gems on guardian raids

[fallow marlin]

or get sued

[swift tree]

Then came back during Summer LOA On, and helped finish off Transcendence for Thaemine

[slender sky]

i was the last to finish cards out of my circle of ppl and no one swiped for cards

[brittle hawk]

????????

[swift tree]

yeah they did

[brittle hawk]

Did they say that in loaon

[slender sky]

yea, except for the 2 new ones now

[surreal gyro]

yes its on the presentation

[swift tree]

they said they were going to spead daily materials more across content

[brittle hawk]

Oh cool

Oh not cool

Because we all know what that means.

[surreal gyro]

Guardian raids are pretty juiced

even for astrogems nwodays

[brittle hawk]

????

[broken lava]

they did yes, but we don't know if the gems are only for the new guardians.

[swift tree]

quite possibly 1730+ only ._.

[brittle hawk]

Lmfao I haven't dropped an astrogem from rested guardians for ages and when i do it's uncommon

[fallow marlin]

guardians are gonna be walking dps dolls anyways

[surreal gyro]

yes also a good QoL

and no phero flare bs

[swift tree]

which makes the new Tier 3 1580-1620 Player Hell 1700-1730

[brittle hawk]

And from guardians, astrogems are literally the only valuable teward

[slender sky]

yea i mean strictly off of a gaming perspective. gems are a character system that shouldve been a roster system with the introduction of t4

[surreal gyro]

but i feel like they will do what they did with T3 content, where you have all the updated QoL stuff from T4 onwards and T3 stuff looks shit af

[swift tree]

[brittle hawk]

[swift tree]

2 months

not that long

not in a development timeframe

concept -> release is like 6-months

[surreal gyro]

yeah probably

idk i never liked gold river that much

i like our current bozo more

[brittle hawk]

They all suck

[fallow marlin]

also elixir and transcendance was a response

to the community not liking soft resets

anymore

[surreal gyro]

yes i also wanted to say this

[swift tree]

there was clearly no successor planned etc because their plan was "Just put the 3 systems lead in charge"

which was a shitshow

[fallow marlin]

now its back to soft resets baby

[surreal gyro]

lost ark is the ONLY game i have played where they always try to switch things up in terms of systems, some good some bad

[fallow marlin]

[swift tree]

tbh better than elixir/trans

[fallow marlin]

it always was

lol

[swift tree]

and KR players dont get to bitch about losing glow now

[surreal gyro]

soft reset is good

[swift tree]

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[surreal gyro]

what idk is how soft reset will work exactly for those below 1730

[fallow marlin]

i wouldnt be suprised

[wise pasture]

[fallow marlin]

if it was worse tbh

and they salvaged it

[swift tree]

still same company that came up with it, core staff and game designers that concepted it.
eh

depending on how much they steal from Assassins Creed the Twilight Order stuff might actually be pretty cool

Music Box finding/searching gimmick but with assassination targets

what I mean is that there hasn't been a massive structural change to Smilegate (until a few weeks ago) between Elixirs and Trans.

[quiet flower]

Man there's so many 1700 rats

How can you only have 1.5k power at 1700

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/piemations-rats-random-gif-25561169

[surreal gyro]

gems T_T

[swift tree]

well there will be now

[surreal gyro]

idk we have had so much change

[swift magnet]

ru dragon lady febraury

hmm

[surreal gyro]

Solo raids and Revives are insanely important

they really changed the game

Paradise close 3rd imo

the philosophy is still there

there is a shared pool

not 1 per character

for 4 man i think its okey

as you can see from the roadmap you will be farming that shit long term , i think they should nerf the astrogem cutting cost a bit , but that depends on how expensive new honing will be

[uncut dirge]

That's a pretty normal amount?

???

[swift tree]

https://lostark.game.onstove.com/News/Notice/Views/13299?page=1 corporate merger go brrr

[swift magnet]

yus and thats great for me if the 4men also drop cores

can do them instead of kaz 😄

[quiet flower]

Is it?

[surreal gyro]

yes they do drop cores

[quiet flower]

Cause it feels low

[uncut dirge]

If you have some old event gems (mix of 6s and 7s) and are at 1700 ilvl with one relic book done then you end up at around 1550-1600 combat power

[swift magnet]

[surreal gyro]

its a merger between SG and SG holdings nothing important

[quiet flower]

[surreal gyro]

its a holding company lmao

[broken lava]

it will work like old behemoth did

[uncut dirge]

Median combat power at 1690-1700 bracket is 1338
1700-1710 is 1534

[zenith canyon]

rats are downgrading it now

[swift magnet]

[uncut dirge]

Might add a few points or consider the bigger number because people do share gems and not every char has gems

[swift magnet]

she not a rat xD

[uncut dirge]

But I wouldn't say it's too far off the mark

[surreal gyro]

can we get the same gift KR got for LOAON? it was so juiced

[burnt tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1436274265388486667/LostArk2025.11.07-11.32.41.02.DVR-00.02.37.999-00.02.40.242-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[fallow marlin]

i found my account

[burnt tree]

gogo you need to stream me GKs outfits

[fallow marlin]

sold my gems when i quit

[burnt tree]

[fallow marlin]

now its like 200k worth less

[surreal gyro]

gimme gimme

[fallow marlin]

[burnt tree]

its ok ull get lvl 7s from gold shop

[swift magnet]

share. i am poor

[surreal gyro]

So kr is getting the new Zone in February?

[fallow marlin]

i dont remember how to play this game anymore

[surreal gyro]

its ok give me your gold nad ill play it for you

[uncut dirge]

1700 ilvl with +21 weapon, 30 AH on weapon, 100q
Adren 10/20
Stabilized Status 20/20
Mid accessories, 3x lv. 7 gems, 8x lv. 6
= 1640 combat power

[broken lava]

territory update, is Stronghold I think

[uncut dirge]

And 21 weapon is decently overhoned by 1700 standards (1725 ilvl)

[surreal gyro]

oh and where is the sea of aldabaren stuff

is it going to Q2?

[broken lava]

in January

[surreal gyro]

January is PvE stuff only

the new raid is on Sushire

[broken lava]

[uncut dirge]

The run roadmap can't be accurate

[fallow marlin]

i didnt watch the livestream but is crack of chaos

[quiet flower]

"PvE only stuff" as if PvP stuff comes out ever

[uncut dirge]

Thaemine extreme in March?!

[fallow marlin]

the new chaos dungeon

[surreal gyro]

yes new chaos, and the hourglass is the new cube

[fallow marlin]

or the vampire survivor mode like in lost ark m

[burnt tree]

its new chaos yea

[broken lava]

you mean old Boss Rush

[surreal gyro]

haha yeah

[burnt tree]

ngl yeah

when bro was describing it on the stream

i was like

"is that not boss rush lmao

[surreal gyro]

if its 1 boss only its gonna be chill

[uncut dirge]

It's ok, they'll remove tower

And then a year later bring it back again as brand spanking new content

[broken lava]

it can also be more, just not 15 bosses again pls

[burnt tree]

reusing content is cheap thats all

just have 3 bosses

ezpz

[uncut dirge]

They don't though

[fallow marlin]

how about 1

[burnt tree]

[burnt tree]

id be fine with 1

[uncut dirge]

Them "reusing content" somehow makes them redo it all

[burnt tree]

the sooner i log out the better

[uncut dirge]

Like people wanted Argos on top of Valtan tower 3 years ago

So they finally give it to us but they rework everything

[fallow marlin]

i forgot theres alot of buttons in this game

playing only gatcha games

turned me into a gatcha brain

[burnt tree]

lmao

[fallow marlin]

[burnt tree]

bro degraded

[uncut dirge]

What the tower looks like, what Argos looks like, new animations and patterns and all that

That's really not reusing the content

[burnt tree]

my bad "reusing ideas"

happy?

[uncut dirge]

That's fine

[burnt tree]

Also ive wanted that argos on valtan more than another raid every loa on

[uncut dirge]

It's just that I wish they would reuse content so we could get more content

[burnt tree]

glory be they finally did it

[swift tree]

[burnt tree]

its fine they will add Hellkan and Hellkamen

[burnt tree]

so the 0.5% can get their rush

[slender sky]

ayyyyyyy

bigboibara

[swift magnet]

[burnt tree]

time to do brel

[swift tree]

solo brel, solo mordum and nefta 2

[burnt tree]

and my boi krathios

nerfed so hard, im still confused to how easy it is

my brain still remembers the day 1 krathios runs from Korea

but hes just a hopping dummy now

[late portal]

It’s doomed

[charred void]

is ok 30k people are just waiting for goonerknight release

[uncut dirge]

When hellkazeros

[swift magnet]

eos

[burnt tree]

All youll get is Kazeros EX one day b4 EoS

[uncut dirge]

900x mech in hell kazeros gonna require a Super Splendid Sacred Bomb

[uncut dirge]

Costs 1000 gold to craft

[zenith canyon]

Sacria Splendid Sacred Bomb

[uncut dirge]

Also no checkpoint between G1 and G2

So you gotta do it all in one go

[zenith canyon]

• some bonus SURE kill patterns

[surreal gyro]

i mean next week we get another frontier nerf its gonna be fine

• ark grid

[uncut dirge]

G1 gets their own 1-2 and 1-3 as well

[surreal gyro]

they shud fix the nerf on 2-1 now cause it's not applied

[uncut dirge]

You mean week after next week

Isn't next week week 4

[zenith canyon]

17th tha next nerf

[uncut dirge]

Hell mordum

[zenith canyon]

if g2 boss looks at u ur petri

[uncut dirge]

You know those rotating lightning bolts at 475? They're permanent during the entire fight

And you can't destroy the orbs that shoot lasers

[surreal gyro]

this reset will be week 2 of stage 1 , so next week he will get another 5% nerf

[uncut dirge]

Ok when is next week for you

[zenith canyon]

[uncut dirge]

For me it's in 3 days

[surreal gyro]

Dec 15th xD

bro

[uncut dirge]

Ok that explains it

[zenith canyon]

ur counting real weeks, where we count it with loa resets

[surreal gyro]

ok this reset then no changes , next reset another 5%

^_^

[swift magnet]

holy that crashed hard

2 weeks ago i could sell for 214g

[zenith canyon]

huh ur not following? was that since last week

[fallow marlin]

boss enrage no longer healing hp is quite a big change now that i think about it

it was always a dumb mechanic

[charred void]

so i can solo bosses in enrage now, poggers

[fallow marlin]

i mean

[swift magnet]

i dont check market prices daily xD

[fallow marlin]

in theory yes

[charred void]

loved kiting enraged valtan for 7 minutes as support

[surreal gyro]

this current LoA week we had the 10% nerf applied

[zenith canyon]

"applied" to all but g2-1/3 kaze

[surreal gyro]

2-3 has the nerf

its same HP as 2-2 730b

it was 811b before

[surreal gyro]

i knowcause i cleared this week and i have the DPS meter health bar

[broken lava]

that is the issue no? 2-3 was around 730B last week too

[surreal gyro]

no i think it was 811 same as 2-2

[broken lava]

nooo 2-3 was less hp than 2-2

[lunar stag]

way less

2-3 is even easier then 2-2 from what i heard and not even close

[surreal gyro]

yes cause u need to get to 25%

to finish the raid

patterns are almost identical to 2-2 except the sacrifice mech

[late portal]

Whale digger

[swift tree]

check fusion price

[swift magnet]

more or less the same

[swift tree]

used to be 90 on NA now 118

[broken bane]

you can sell abidos for 160 g o0 but always in night ^^

[swift magnet]

xD

💀

make this shit fixed price for 6k pls xD

[bleak zinc]

[safe lark]

guardian knight on anniversary

[bleak zinc]

carmen extreme

[swift magnet]

this sounds like an interesting movie xD

[swift magnet]

[sharp rock]

[burnt tree]

RIP Sorc darek

[safe lark]

buff the witch

[swift magnet]

Class: Witch, Subclassname: Karen, Awakening: rude behavior

[burnt tree]

lmao accurate to the reactiosn ppl had on the gates

before marriage[g1], after marriage[g2], gore cutscene = when the husband returns to his wife drunk

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[kind oriole]

I think i will be need her hairstyle on my slayer

[burnt tree]

frfr

[burnt tree]

its ok speak freely

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cut-off-scissors-ariana-grande-crop-truncate-gif-17491879

[kind lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/hwang-intak-intak-p1harmony-piwon-p1h-gif-12302286994172988676

[safe lark]

my wife is an angel, nothing close to those things u write.

[burnt tree]

well ure not married yet so ofc

[kind lotus]

GET EM SATHOOOOONA

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/922351881353850890/1159995621839741029/buffaero.gif

[burnt tree]

lol just realised GK has 14 sec cdr

[safe lark]

shes my girl, my wife, my partner

[burnt tree]

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[slender sky]

im ray william johnson and i approve this message

[surreal gyro]

im going to share

some of KR comments

[safe lark]

thanks, we dont have internet

[slender sky]

bro who dis

[surreal gyro]

kick i guess the wow factor

[meager hill]

ok but what about the balance changes?

[surreal gyro]

we will know on wednesday

[meager hill]

ah, I guess you didn't see the pre-loaon Q&A

[surreal gyro]

like they are saying the same shit we have been saying but they aknowledge that they are heading to a better direction

[covert remnant]

Untillll....

[west latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372594495123750994/1447585524217811017/content.png?ex=69382893&is=6936d713&hm=95adb949ac810af8f2096a0066922d7cdd17a0ca0fc8d60f53d11ca1e3a6938a&

[fallow marlin]

@burnt tree all the Chinese gatcha games with anime collabs just suddenly canceled the collab lmfao

West Taiwan strikes again

[swift tree]

1720 Cube so good

[swift tree]

Recession Indicator

[burnt tree]

rofl wtf

[fallow marlin]

Ccp forcing them to cancel anything japanese

Which is why hssr

[quartz charm]

Oi oi good evening
Will be there anything in the wednesday or just regular ?

[fallow marlin]

Just delayed their new content

Since it was based in Japan

[burnt tree]

this wednesday regular, next week december patch

[burnt tree]

shorely cyperpunk collab for wuwa not cancelled

[quartz charm]

Ohhh more waiting for something good meh

[burnt tree]

well we might get roadmap this week

[quartz charm]

Thanks a lot

[fallow marlin]

Isn't 3.0 basically an anime based in Japan or something

[burnt tree]

yeah think so

but no delays or anything

[fallow marlin]

For now

[burnt tree]

well "lahai roi" doesnt sound japanese atleast

but the current patch is basically a very japanese looking city but in ruins

[covert remnant]

wallpaper

[lunar stag]

Please witch of agony save usfrom mordum being a gold raid

[covert remnant]

By then they'll surely remove a gate from mordum right?

[lunar stag]

Brooooo

this raid is made to be annoying

no cap

[swift tree]

they're nerfing gate 2

the x15/20/25 and stop-go mech is being removed and the battle items with it

[lunar stag]

wait they are?

[swift tree]

yes

[lunar stag]

the stop go mech was the dumbt thing they could have made in that gate

i unerstnad echidna having medusa

and mordum blinding opssite lightsfrom him

but why thefuck i need to stop 1 minute for this shitty ass bug?

[swift tree]

anyone gonna mention that the new class is basically a player version of nightrea?

absorbed the soul of a guardian and got their powers

[lunar stag]

was it a chaos guardian she absorbed?

[swift tree]

no, regular one

Sacria killed it during Chain War

fitting since we're about to head to Sacria

[lunar stag]

wait? so the guardian knight is like +500 year old?

the chain war should be between the 1000 years ago first ark war and the arival of kazeros to arkesia which is 500 years ago?

[surreal gyro]

oo we having a lore discussion im in

[swift tree]

They're a lazenith

[surreal gyro]

how did she land under there tho

werent Lazeniths banished in Elgacia

[burnt tree]

she was a little kid when the guardian found her

probably was already on arkesia or somehow escaped

[swift tree]

Not all Lazenith went to elgacia

[surreal gyro]

plot hole

[burnt tree]

she still had her wings

[surreal gyro]

[lunar stag]

how did she keep her wings?

[burnt tree]

its not a plot hole lmao

[surreal gyro]

oh ye how did a baby land

[fleet plover]

She fall from the nest

🐣

[lunar stag]

iforget, how did they explain how nineveh kept her wings?

[lunar hedge]

Always the Sacrians

[burnt tree]

who knows, but Nineveh and Beatrice have their wings still

[swift tree]

they're not formed wings, they're the "torn" ones

the ones from the *First War have them

[lunar stag]

i mean Beatrice we know she was allowed to keep herwings because she is a watcher

[lunar hedge]

It's not that deep bro

It's NOT that deep

[burnt tree]

Nineveh probably because L'oreal intervened

[lunar hedge]

[swift tree]

a handful of special lazenith are allowed to spead them, Nineveh and Beatrice showed they had them early on- why they both were raised under Lauriel

[lunar stag]

Did L'oreal get wings from the power of the cube? This always confused mee

[swift tree]

player character just random kid who got lost in the whole upheavel of everyone moving from Arkesia to Elgacia

[swift tree]

he had broken ones too but absorbed the Eye of Light

literaly just watch cutscenes

[burnt tree]

the lazenith had wings because of the scrolls

[swift tree]

^that too

the metal mecha ones are from absorbing the eye tho

[burnt tree]

but the price was the life of other lazenith

[swift tree]

💀

[surreal gyro]

when will i get my wings

[burnt tree]

never

[swift tree]

you dont... grow wings

[burnt tree]

unless u like red bull

[surreal gyro]

🙁

[burnt tree]

then ull grow wings faster

[swift tree]

which KR dev drew the Guardian

[surreal gyro]

AI

[swift tree]

probably, bit too visually consistent tho

[surreal gyro]

they probably did some work after the generated images

to make it look more realistic

[lunar stag]

seems likee Ai but with human touch

[swift tree]

the player character is 💯 AI tho

[burnt tree]

AI assisted

[swift tree]

got the instagram filter

[surreal gyro]

ye especially when they fly

hahaha

[burnt tree]

some ppl actually draw over the AI etc

to make it look better

[swift tree]

instagram ass data set being used to generate this

[burnt tree]

but yeah the kid is def AI

[surreal gyro]

like thisp art here is so sloppy

[burnt tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1447354528272875520/Guardian_Knight_Sath1.gif

[swift tree]

Hey, since this is a female character that fused with a legoros style Guardian.
Does that make her the Beard of Legoros?

[surreal gyro]

i really like her 2nd hyper awakening

where she holds the ember

[burnt tree]

her expression, crash me pls

[uncut dirge]

i am underwhelmed by new class

[burnt tree]

we dont care

[uncut dirge]

head attack
sounds terrible

[surreal gyro]

its good some variation

[burnt tree]

only 1 spec is head attack by the looks of things

[uncut dirge]

and the other one is

use X skill as the last skill of transformation

[lunar stag]

its alright i've seen worst

[burnt tree]

dont play it then

[uncut dirge]

cue cinematic/damage reduction/boss disappearing/special sidereal cinematic

[swift tree]

Dragon design looks like a chaos one but before Kazzy took over all of them

[surreal gyro]

ill only be making a same class toon not falling again for a new class release 🙂

[errant fable]

there another way to make a dragon knight

[surreal gyro]

if we get another mage ill propably make one though ~~~

[kind lotus]

Ur who

Thomas

The train

Choo choo

[fleet plover]

Btw the fact that they didn't show any preview with the next class it means we are not getting any gender unlock in the summer?

[slender sky]

ofc now that im done with cards

[slender sky]

it was the outro of an old youtuber

[noble root]

they did
https://youtu.be/ghT_xFbR1BE

[kind lotus]

Male assassin so it was hidden

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-sad-upset-but-why-no-gif-15372836

[fleet plover]

wdym?

[slender sky]

selector well spent

[kind lotus]

Dragon Knight in December for us surely

[fleet plover]

It's February

Same as last year

• the RU roadmap confirmed

[sharp rock]

https://tenor.com/view/tiny-hands-cute-clap-applause-gif-5676596

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/youd-be-a-fool-not-to-pick-me-pick-me-volunteer-get-me-take-me-gif-15654905

[slender sky]

last year kr didnt get new class in december tho

[fleet plover]

I am also expecting a male asssassin but they didn't showcase anything so I'm wondering if they will make anymore gender unlocks or just 1 class per year from this point

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/faktail-cat-gif-5505492896421307888

[swift tree]

You have acquired [A Dread Against the DM]

[sharp rock]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01HN6NAJV00008Y0WDTPT0FY8Y/4x.avif

[surreal gyro]

nah they always do 1 class per LOAON too much money to gain from that haha

[swift tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855703067901952030/1447296567391420579/4K_2025_Winter_Showcase_Official_Trailer.gif

[slender sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1287213147266093098/1299372176750805013/caption.gif

[swift tree]

Wildsoul wdym

[kind lotus]

Dancing Argos so goofy

[surreal gyro]

winter argos will be so much fun until you fall off the map

[sharp rock]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shake-gif-19831790

[slender sky]

wildsoul released in january for them and february for us iirc

MAN

[slender sky]

@swift tree

[kind lotus]

Yes thanks for the knowledge

Nice reply

[swift tree]

yeah but still a winter release class

[slender sky]

fk u tiny hands looking mf

[swift tree]

Had to update Dopq's Argos artwork

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-doro-dorothy-pipe-bomb-gif-4643514375044855612

[kind lotus]

My hands may be tiny but you feel them

[sharp rock]

https://tenor.com/view/green-guy-pokes-you-stick-poke-comagreeny-gif-12916307036305812419

[sharp rock]

In his chungus

[swift tree]

@kind lotus how long till someone in KR makes furry art of Guardian Knight's dragon?

[slender sky]

that was not the question you stinkypoo

[kind lotus]

Yes

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/peek-a-boo-peeking-meme-peeking-i-see-you-watching-you-gif-12003519655647832369

[kind lotus]

What does this bot want from me

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/maghla-zevent-choque-choquee-shocked-gif-18850898

[slender sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041063282435428433/1370222627687235646/togif.gif

[kind lotus]

6m till roadmap

[safe lark]

2hr 6min

[kind lotus]

Let me cope

BOT

[slender sky]

cope is today to begin with

[swift tree]

who said today?

[midnight drift]

Do we have a road map from AGS today ?

[swift tree]

wouldnt it be tomorrow?

[kind lotus]

Me

[midnight drift]

Ru got one

[slender sky]

ru is always faster

[surreal gyro]

we usually get an official response from Ags after every LOAON i think it will be today

[wintry depot]

Just watch ru roadmap we will have the same

[surreal gyro]

RU roadmap doesnt elaborate on anything

[kind lotus]

Dragon Knight in December for us surely

[surreal gyro]

AGS adds some extra stuff

[kind lotus]

ARNA

[slender sky]

no we wont, get your negative attitude out of here or ill turn your room into a freezer

[wintry depot]

What

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/the-iceman-cometh-batman-forever-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-10776182

[wintry depot]

?

Im noy being negative

[burnt tree]

tommy feeling heated up today

[swift tree]

Too late, I've broken the seal in her weatherproofing

[wintry depot]

But we know we get same content as ru

Fucker

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/knife-cat-cat-knife-cat-knife-cat-angry-gif-9404759922388476738

[fresh flint]

Rus roadmap is shit

[kind lotus]

Ru roadmap so shit

Oh hi chris

[fresh flint]

Hi

[swift tree]

....but we got new Smilegate NA/EU specific team

[burnt tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351248381426532445/1437185206720401449/Woori_Bank_2025_LCK_Minju_from_ILLIT_Sath2.gif

[slender sky]

all the doomer talk takes a toll on me im lashing out

[burnt tree]

and it took 3 years

[burnt tree]

understandable

[wintry depot]

Im not dooming tho

[swift tree]

gotta slice through the doom

[wintry depot]

[burnt tree]

AGS will post in 3 hours saying "haha news tomorrow"

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/rumi-sword-kpop-demon-hunters-kdh-kpdh-gif-5891615244290167037

[slender sky]

the lashing is not always directed to the dooming, you could be an innocent bystander and i would still aim a snowball at you

[wintry depot]

Ok

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/buddy-gif-27270466

[burnt tree]

next abyss dungeon boss be like

[swift tree]

nah, Abyss Dungeon is Sacria

[slender sky]

its too many bodies

[swift tree]

so probably another Twilight Order Sylmael monster

[burnt tree]

the one after

[swift tree]

btw they said some of the bosses may be existing characters disguised?

[slender sky]

gk in december for us frfr

[swift tree]

hear me out

[slender sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855703067901952030/1447296567391420579/4K_2025_Winter_Showcase_Official_Trailer.gif

[swift tree]

Serca is that npc in Blackrose Chapel

[burnt tree]

yes they said some characters that you already met may be Shadows

[surreal gyro]

😮

[burnt tree]

but i think it probably meant Ezrebet

[covert remnant]

Beatrice zosma right hand chick

[swift tree]

ofc Ezrebet and Echidna are confirmed ones

[burnt tree]

not again with evil beatrice shit

[covert remnant]

[swift tree]

beatrice isnt evil, there's already a chaos beatrice and she's only mentioned in reference

[burnt tree]

Kakul Saydon too

thats 4

[swift tree]

he's a given

[covert remnant]

I want all nerias to be skin walkers

[burnt tree]

ill end you

[worldly hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1418938737567596634/Karina-What_Sath.gif

[burnt tree]

this fkin gif thief man

[swift tree]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1023638621179355167/1065255275029856296/peepoSitPugPls.gif

[burnt tree]

first my capybaras now this

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/капибара-gif-15656021286497190682

[burnt tree]

give me GK tomorrow

[west latch]

Goon Knight

[swift tree]

Hot Topic Serca looking ass

[slender sky]

i could see ezrebet being g1 of later kakul raid

[worldly hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/lissa-mibr-valorant-egirl-kiss-gif-11122466276212930941

[swift tree]

either that or part of the interaction between him and echidna

since she was the go-between

[slender sky]

ye

[lunar stag]

is this serca?

lmao

[swift tree]

nah

just thought I saw serca somewhere before, and nah, she looks different

[lunar stag]

ah nvm

i thought shee was npc turned boss, we never saw her before this right?

[swift tree]

She's one of the heretics that were trying to summon Kakul Saydon, and was part of a Music Box questline + Luterra epilogue

[brittle hawk]

does anyone still buy or craft fusion mats to hone

[swift tree]

when I run out... yeah

[lunar stag]

oh, so we only knew her by name?

[brittle hawk]

i can't be asked to wait for paradise every week only to get crap i dont need

[brittle hawk]

hmm okay

[swift tree]

Not serca, that person I screenshot

Serca we only know by name

[fleet plover]

Since Paradise release I have never run out of Fusions and never had the need to buy or craft on any char

[burnt tree]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wherewindsmeet_/comments/1pbcama/wwm_has_became_star_wars_in_cn_server/

[swift tree]

thought there might be some link since red hair + sunflower motif on the witch form but meh

[lunar stag]

what did secra do?

[brittle hawk]

all my characters are running low since i always get shit

[swift tree]

new character

[brittle hawk]

[swift tree]

no clue

[lunar stag]

i wonder if she is at the power of echidna?

[swift tree]

doubt it

[fleet plover]

Talking about Fusions, I just got it xD

[lunar stag]

considering she is only 4 man i assume she is one of the lowerranked primal beings or primal demons

[brittle hawk]

[swift tree]

all of the "primordials" seem to have an aspect that is a reversal of the Arkesian gods.
Serca being an inversion of pleasure/joy with pain and suffering

[surreal gyro]

like Clown? 😛

[lunar stag]

clown is hiding his power

he is quitestrong

[surreal gyro]

oh ye right on the raid he was testing us not really fighting us

[swift tree]

Echidna basically being Petrania's Gaia

[brittle hawk]

Is there a fusion mat calculator for profitablity and cost

[lunar stag]

I hope we meet the wtich of chaos

[swift tree]

ofc there is

[worldly hawk]

same with echidna

she held back twice

[brittle hawk]

could u plz send it

[swift tree]

I dont remember it

[brittle hawk]

[worldly hawk]

[swift tree]

its part of the dowork websites iirc

haha wee

saved this key

[lunar hedge]

I haven't had a deep descent procc in Hell for a while

Been getting the lv2 descent and the black screen a lot

[fleet plover]

Me too

Most of my keys in the last weeks are so much black

[brittle hawk]

What the fuck profit on euc is 540

[swift tree]

tier 3 tho

[brittle hawk]

[burnt tree]

party size has nothing to do with the power of a boss

thats a gameplay aspect

[brittle hawk]

Why do people even craft this shit

[lunar stag]

i know iwas joking, but i do think she isone of the weaker ones

[swift tree]

where paper mask for warrior >;L

[lunar stag]

i assume kakul and thee witch of chaos are like the top tier

[swift tree]

you see the dark trixion theory?

[lunar stag]

what does it say?

[burnt tree]

echidna is a top tier too probably, she hasnt been taking anything seriously so far oml

[swift tree]

Petrania has its own version of Trixion, and so the Ark existed before Regulus and he fucked everyone over last time he used it

[brittle hawk]

just bcz they dgaf doesn't mean they're op

maybe she's just lazy

[lunar hedge]

It's not that deep

[brittle hawk]

or Silly

[lunar stag]

what does have to do with the witch of chaos?

[nova marlin]

How much is the wallpaper from Brelshaza act 2 hm worth?

[swift tree]

She'd be the chaos watcher

[lunar stag]

hmmmm

[swift tree]

it's not that deep, but a lot of high fantasy can just be reverse engineered due to overlapping themes

sprinkle in eastern philosophy and you're good to go

[lunar stag]

Why did kazeros kill her? Was she a zosma loyalist?

[lunar hedge]

They weren't able to make their move because little kazy was in the way

[lunar stag]

she can't die but

like i assume destroyed her physical body

[swift tree]

I mean the identity of the chaos witch isn't known so

[lunar stag]

since Brel was wearing her horns lmao

[swift tree]

design of the statues brel makes and her horns resemble early echidna tho

huh

[nova marlin]

Bump

[slender sky]

its a cosmetic, its worth as much as the ppl in the lobby deem it to be

[nova marlin]

But I mean in General how high people bid

[swift tree]

about tree fiddy

[fleet plover]

Not that much lately, probably between 10-50k I would say

depends if u have somone that is rich or wants it so much in the party xD

[lunar stag]

by the way, Volton should be a primal demon as well? I never thought about this

i think kazeros found him after he killed his rival

[nova marlin]

Ah key thanks so 30k is decent I bought it for😂

Like 2 months ago so@eone go up to 300k that’s why I ask

[lunar stag]

Do we know anything about akkan? He is like one of the few that i feel has no lore?

[ebon snow]

Lost a red fire key in paradise from crashing you guys think its worth to write a ticket?

[lunar stag]

maybe i am wrong and he has lore

[fleet plover]

They won't be able to refund via tickets.

But didn't they mention they changed something related to paradise keys for crashes you still reconnect inside?

[lunar hedge]

You're over analyzing what is just on mere speculation right now. They only just dropped the trailer for the Witch raid

[wintry depot]

they did

but i think theres a limit

like 15mins or something

[fleet plover]

oh... yeah

[ebon snow]

So what do

[lunar stag]

akkan was around for a while tho?

[fleet plover]

People that lost keys due to crash they never got them back so idk...

[lunar hedge]

he returns to the Abyss

[ebon snow]

Oof

[fleet plover]

U can try with a ticket but don't make too many hopes

[wintry depot]

ticket wont help

[lunar stag]

i am confued, what is he tho?

[wintry depot]

its automated system

[ebon snow]

Well fock

[lunar stag]

a haal?

[wintry depot]

JUST DONT CRASH

[lunar hedge]

A being from the Abyss

[ebon snow]

The game crashes after 20min every time

Or it doesn't. It's so weird

[wintry depot]

weird

[lunar hedge]

Oml

Just watch the act 1 cutscenes

[ebon snow]

I already lost 2 guardians and a mordum too

[lunar hedge]

[wintry depot]

did you try verifying files

[ebon snow]

Ye

[brittle hawk]

meep

[swift tree]

He used to be a priest of Sirius, started learning chaos ways like Sigmund- tl;dr became a demon then a lich.
Strong enough to become a commander of Kazeros' army of the dead.

[lunar hedge]

The only Haals confirmed is Kadan and Abrelshud

[swift tree]

Akkan mentions once being human

and all *demons are Arkesia life twisted via the Abyss/Petrania

[ebon snow]

Told people to verify now im the one crashing

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/curse-gif-21856580

[lunar stag]

what happeneed to Sigmund? He escaped and his story is unfinished?

i haven't donee all t he isslands and side quests

so idon't know

[lunar hedge]

He died?

We killed him?

[swift tree]

We killed his ass and his soul/being got ate by Vairgrys

[wintry depot]

im hungry

[lunar stag]

what?

[swift tree]

go eat North Vern's magical barrier

[lunar stag]

when was this?

[swift tree]

end of north vern

[wintry depot]

anyone knows about pc

[swift tree]

what?

[wintry depot]

idk my pc is giga slow on startup

before the logo appears

its a black screen with a white _

[swift tree]

your BIOS and mobo are probably either cugging along or taking a while to kick over

[wintry depot]

yeah but why it happened suddenly

i didnt change anything

are they dying or something

[swift tree]

possibly

[lunar hedge]

North Vern was the Solar Knights intro who was at war with Sigmund but they all got killed before and Sigmund is a necromancer demon

[wintry depot]

:(

[swift tree]

the potato is getting baked

[lunar hedge]

Thar and Sigmund had killed each other but they both came back to life when we arrived to North Vern

[wintry depot]

would it help if i update my bios

[stuck vortex]

Replace potatoes

[swift tree]

end of north vern, sigmund succeeds at breaking Vern's magical barrier over Ancient Elveria-

^Thar was worried he was revived also via necromancy, but it was his necklace

[wintry depot]

or not at all

[swift tree]

how old is your pc?

[wintry depot]

6 years

[swift tree]

it might help but could also risk making it worse.

[swift tree]

crapshoot sometimes

[wintry depot]

hmmm

[lunar hedge]

Thar was revived through the necklace that was imbued with Sceptums power

[wintry depot]

well i guess ill just afk while pc starts

[lunar hedge]

and we just killed sigmunds ass

[lunar stag]

akkan's soul wasn't consumed so i assume he can revive himself after awhile? The question is, can he do that if Kazerods is killed? We will have to play through the next quet to know what is happening to kazeros

[swift tree]

He's dead dead

Akkan burnt himself out

[burnt tree]

yep he used everything up

that was the point of the 30x cutscene

[lunar stag]

but he said the spirit king will be reborn? was he just taunting?

[burnt tree]

if hes alive he will be stuck in the abyss which means he cant do shit

he meant kazeros will be reborn

thats it

[swift tree]

he basically tried doing what Guardian Knight did, but didnt ask for consent

[burnt tree]

Behemoth was a hater of everyone

generational

[lunar hedge]

Burn souls! Turn it all into ash.. EVERYTHING!!!

https://tenor.com/view/h3dz-guitar-riff-solo-heavy-gif-15991752

[lunar stag]

by the way, something i never understood, Akkan was ordering Aegir around, but lore wise Aegir should be around the same rank as Akkan no?

[swift tree]

eh, yes/no. Akkan is a demon. Aegir is an abyssal being.

[lunar hedge]

Ehhhh

[swift tree]

cart vs horse scenario

deathless being imbued with life
life-filled being twisted by a realm of death

[lunar hedge]

Simply giving some instructions, wouldn't say ordering aegir around

[mystic lion]

Akkan worked under kazeros and Aegir would do anything for Kazeros so they were kind of like the Batman and robin duo

[lunar stag]

I actually wonder, would mordum outrank brel?

[swift tree]

no

[lunar hedge]

....

[swift tree]

Brel is different for one very specific reason

[lunar hedge]

Yeah no you're thinking about this too much

[lunar stag]

no/ But mordum seemed really close to kazeros

[lunar hedge]

Go to your corner

[swift tree]

Brel is older than the Abyss

not that hard to understand the ranking in that scenario

[lunar hedge]

I know but

[swift tree]

She's older than Kazeros

[lunar hedge]

[lunar stag]

i just asume the abyssal lords are powerful haal hand picked by mordum to be his abyssa lords

[mystic lion]

Brel is also not a demon iirc she’s Haal I think

[swift tree]

twisted recreations of Arkesian life

[lunar hedge]

She's one of the last known Haals next to Kadan

[swift tree]

Aegir -> Stone Giants
Narok -> Elementals
Mordum -> Constructs/Guardians

[mystic lion]

Armoche -> Several resets pre-420

[swift tree]

She is also the faction that started the war

[lunar hedge]

AHAHA

[swift tree]

Solar Knight Commander esque

[lunar stag]

Armoche is the only abyssa lord that has a title relationship with kazeros, that being his sentinel

actually armocheebeing that close to kazeros makes me assumee in life he was probably close to Antares

[swift tree]

I mean it's established that some Solar Knights were soul-snatched during the Chain War

[lunar hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/yakutenok-gif-8647082114664595427

[swift tree]

it aint that deep

[slender sky]

nerds

[swift tree]

just literacy

[lunar hedge]

Ya

[mystic lion]

You wouldn’t get it

[swift tree]

I mean Brelshaza's raid is a Silmarillion reference

[slender sky]

nah i do, i love lore

[mystic lion]

All my homies shift G I’m the only lore enjoyer left in my friend group

Lost ark lore is pretty interesting and complex too

[lunar stag]

i always assumed that place is like brel's og kingdom

so like haal kingdom

[swift tree]

probably, but narratively its basically saying "The tree has already been destroyed, and we have stolen its light"

i.e. They've already stolen the Silmarils (Armen)

[slender sky]

i find it interesting how early on they alrdy knew where they wanna go with it. like the ezrebet island we visited at the very start of the game and we alrdy found some clues about the shadow beings there

[swift tree]

She literally says "I'm not a demon, I'm something older"

[slender sky]

ye

[swift tree]

and Wisdom Isle leaving breadcrumbs

[lunar stag]

i meean she is a demon, she just a haal who was turned into a demon

[swift tree]

Elgacia established that Demons did not exist before the Lazenith lost their flight

[swift tree]

Ezrebet is not a demon

[lunar hedge]

Haven't heard of that title mentioned for a hot minute now

[lunar stag]

ohhh

i thought you talking about brel mb

[lunar hedge]

I

[swift tree]

Telperion -> Aeperion
Elzowin -> Laurelin

[lunar hedge]

I mean, they made it clear through that islands storyline that Ezrebeth is a primordial

[lunar stag]

Ezrebet is a primal being, but tbh, i don't think that doesn't make her a demon, a demon is an insult and she wouldn't like being called a demon

[swift tree]

well primal beings arent demons

[lunar stag]

they are primal demons

[swift tree]

Demons are specifically the creatures made by Kazeros

[vagrant cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-cat-kitty-cool-hi-gif-18278845067688026866

[lunar stag]

beings of chaos

they aren't the corrupted demons tho

that what i understand?

[swift tree]

they're "those who came before" who arent demons

they're from before the Ark was used by Regulus to create Arkesia

[lunar stag]

wait i am so confused

[lunar hedge]

Shandi had a first impression that anyone coming from Petrania since the Chain War are all demons.

His journal logs at his home in Rimeria made it clear that he's coming to a realization that his encounters with Kakul sets him apart from the demons of Petrania

[lunar stag]

Regelus has a realm that isn't Arkesia?

like a realm of pure order?

[swift tree]

That's not answered

[lunar hedge]

the post-Rimeria cutscene solidifies his suspicions that kakul is not a "demon"

[swift tree]

Act 4 Kakul also spells it out to them

[lunar hedge]

Yeah

[swift tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855712193147043840/1424941350830346300/kakul_sayfon_meyhem1.gif

[lunar hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/kakul-saydon-lost-ark-kakul-saydon-bonked-gif-17688505736293820705

[lunar stag]

i mean they are like the opposite gods version of the gods regulus made

[swift tree]

pretty much

Petrania has inverted aspects called "Primordial Energies"

[lunar stag]

the question is, did zosma make them or zosma just spwaned withthem?

[lunar hedge]

[swift tree]

only thing he is confirmed to have made is the Red Moon

the one that shines in Petrania, not the one over Luterra

[lunar hedge]

Primordials are those that exist at or since the beginning of time, as the basic definition

[swift tree]

pretty much

but also exist outside of time, death, life and order

[lunar stag]

Could be that zosma is just a very powerful concept primal being, i mean chaos is very fundmental concept

But Kharmine was mad at kakul bfor betraying him so its probably thathe somehow conquered all the other chaotic concepts or made them

[swift tree]

mad at kakul for aligning with kazeros

Something sus going on with Regulus and Zosma

[lunar stag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5dDycgRisk

wait people were really mad at act 2 and act 3 in kr for being too hard?

[swift tree]

Memo making more rage bait

[lunar stag]

oh?

he is a rage baiter?

[lunar hedge]

Classic memo

[swift tree]

nah just chronic doomer

[lunar hedge]

But I love his raid guides

[swift tree]

raid guides are good, but his streaming is always doom around LOA On

[uncut dirge]

okay yeah

kazeros normal needs to be #1 priority to clear int eh week

these people are so incredibly bad

supports basically have one job in kazeros G2

[swift tree]

fuck doing kazeros, just enjoy lore and play game

[uncut dirge]

and on normal i'd say it's like 25% odds they awaken at 900x

[swift tree]

[lunar stag]

how hard hard was brel? like even normal brel at release?

or hard brel?

[uncut dirge]

depends on what you mean byt he question

[swift tree]

it was shittier than what we had

[lunar stag]

i feel like brel is a simple raid

[uncut dirge]

back in the day we weren't dps constrained

[covert remnant]

i think they're reworking nercomancy guys, to be like solo leveling style

[uncut dirge]

like

if you had ilvl to enter the raid

it was fine unlses you didnt have sets

there wasn't this giant gulf in strength between players at same ilvl

so in that sense it was about just doing the mechs and that was more or less it

if you did mechs, survived and did alright dps it was doable

and week 1 few people were able to do brel G5-6 on normal

[lunar stag]

i feel like people had a lot of lord of thunders i assume mordum wasn't that much harder?

[faint grove]

oh yeah raids are much harder than they used to be

[uncut dirge]

cause you needed to be 1520

lord of thunder is probably the hardest title we've had to get outside of hell and tfm

[lunar stag]

yes mordum took insanedps check but ark passive boosted people a lot no?

[faint grove]

isnt chaos conq the hardest lol

[swift tree]

raids are not mechanically that much harder but the amount of bs involved with player disparity