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#lost-ark-discussions
swift tree
Doing Mokoko runs for the legendary selector then living inside solo mode
swift tree
KR version
swift tree
Guardian knight in 2 days
you ready for the PAID MOKOKO EXPRESS!
swift magnet
you ready for the PAID MOKOKO EXPRESS!
we dont wanna really help new players for free too much. heres the p2w solution xD
swift tree
"We think you're all rats because you're all below 1700" "So we're making the lower game EVEN MORE ANNOYING" for you to reach upper Tier 4
^Smilegate looking at their player breakdowns
last non-raid card
steel minnow
zealous lintel
bot ban wave
late portal
jeez
wide stag
Feels like they are in every game
slender sky
u a big boy soon
slender sky
What happened between May and June of 24
judgment day for the bots after they didnt touch them for a couple of months
late portal
fleet plover
brittle hawk
swift magnet
wind dagger
zealous lintel
we go for a ride lower
burnt tree
I liked the comparison to before marriage and post marriage
And the gore part of the trailer someone said "Your wife when you return home drunk"
Human spec = tank or im delulu
surreal gyro
What happened between May and June of 24
this was during one of their bigger bot ban waves
quiet flower
If people stopped buying RMT Gold we'd have more players than bots 
burnt tree
If the game was better wed have a bit more players
surreal gyro
if people stopped doomposting all day
we would have more players regardless of the games state
quiet flower
If the game was better wed have a bit more players <:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
Nah, because LA is still too niche for average player
burnt tree
Yes i know, and that's a problem 
quiet flower
Is it?
WWM is a Sekiro copy so if you like souls-like you'd play that
ARPG fans play PoE instead
surreal gyro
not a problem honestly at this point we have so many people who play the game just to play it while they dont like it anymore, they better quit
burnt tree
Yea? People are like no more raids its too many vs why you don't release more raids?!
Also what does WWM got to do with anything. I don't really enjoy souls-like. I find them overrated. WWM is wuxia and i like it
quiet flower
It's just another popular MMO that's released
burnt tree
Its not an MMO for the love of regulus
quiet flower
burnt tree
Its a single player with optional co-op
quiet flower
How is it not an MMO
burnt tree
What does that got to do with anything
swift magnet
not a problem honestly at this point we have so many people who play the game ju...
well i like the game despite it shortcomings just dont like kaz raid. cba with that. if they lock epilloge quest behind hm then well.... i like that they wanna do more horizontals and 4 man raids tbh. lets see how that goes
burnt tree
Clearly nothing
Due to the timegate people don't play non stop, also there's no reason to be on online world unless you're farming materials or doing sect quests
surreal gyro
well i like the game despite it shortcomings just dont like kaz raid. cba with t...
theyre not gonna lock the epilogue behind Hard mode, thisis actually why the epilogue is you vs Kazeros during the MSQ
quiet flower
Wonder if AGS would ever release a graph like SG where we can see how many people actually are at 1730+
Or other brackets
burnt tree
Very interesting
quiet flower
Isn't this just from people who use bible
surreal gyro
still gives you a very good grasp
surreal gyro
on such a high ilvl majority of the people use the dps meter
quiet flower
51k players Game not dead
burnt tree
Where
swift magnet
nope i dont upload my logs and ig many others too. so that only represents a portion of the characters and not all
burnt tree
I mean as long as a game gets updates its not dead
swift magnet
I mean as long as a game gets updates its not dead
this yus
burnt tree
I don't wanna
zealous lintel
the problem with this is, you dont see unique player number
burnt tree
That doesn't mean those are still playing btw
quiet flower
Duh
burnt tree
They just had uploaded logs
surreal gyro
the problem with this is, you dont see unique player number
you can the average roster is 4.62 character
quiet flower
But you weren't 1720 a year ago
burnt tree
Tru tru
surreal gyro
so you take the sum of all characters above 1680 and you divide it by 5 for example
zealous lintel
you can the average roster is 4.62 character
and how does tell me how many unique players there are?
surreal gyro
i love saint but his take was delulu
zealous lintel
you just check the average
surreal gyro
you just check the average
you wont get a 100% accurate number, but its a good indication
zealous lintel
how many of those are multi rosters or same roster in general
surreal gyro
i mean even official AGS numbers would not be able to tell multi rosters from unique rosters
burnt tree
Yeah there's several people with a 1720+ character on another acc
So it doesn't matter
quiet flower
Here's me with a 1730+ char and 5x 1710s 
surreal gyro
and it also doesnt matter cause you also engage with the alt account
no matter if its the same player or not
burnt tree
Well yes
surreal gyro
It wasn't
It wasn't because his whole point is that he is tired of the whole KR MMO design, when he has been playing gacha games with way more aggressive monetization and a completely different genre
swift magnet
alt acc rosters only inflate "real" player numbers. just forbid it per tos and ban em and voila we have the real player number
zealous lintel
It wasn't because his whole point is that he is tired of the whole KR MMO design...
the barrier to entry in gachas is almost zero tho
burnt tree
It wasn't because his whole point is that he is tired of the whole KR MMO design...
He actually went over it in more detail on stream cause he knew people would use the gacha arguement lmao
surreal gyro
Different GENRE
zealous lintel
doesnt matter
zealous lintel
he is talking about the landscape of korean MMOs
zealous lintel
and he is fed up with it
surreal gyro
he is bored of playing a KR MMO that's it and its natural and it makes sense but using gacha games as an argument was just an L take
zealous lintel
compared to MMOrpgs, gachas barrier to entry is way lower even tho its more aggressive in monetization
burnt tree
He went over the topic, he doesn't like KMMOs being constantly under the same formula. The gachas he plays specifically don't force him to be min maxed or spend too much time on them
zealous lintel
you can leave one genre cause said problem for another tho
quiet flower
People still forget that you can simply stop playing a game if you're not having fun 
zealous lintel
People still forget that you can simply stop playing a game if you're not having...
yeah you can. therefore kill the game in the process
surreal gyro
yes you can leave a genre as a whole, but this whole thing was targeted torwards lost ark the game
and a lot of people missunderstood what he said
and im clarifying
zealous lintel
which is why many actually are expressing their frustration
surreal gyro
because people who like MMOs just wont find an alternative
burnt tree
Your clarification is unnecessary, he went over said topic. Nobody said it would apply for everyone else
zealous lintel
tell me, why shouldnt you "boycott" a game when you want to see it succeed instead of dying
things like "quit if you dont like it" isnt helping
it does the opposite
surreal gyro
because part of the game's state is also the communitie's fault especially in the west
burnt tree
because part of the game's state is also the communitie's fault especially in th...
Yeah but whenever i say that i get shit on
zealous lintel
still too bad for the west
burnt tree
Or "CN #1"
surreal gyro
ive said this for years, lost ark's ultimate downfall will be by its own community
burnt tree
The fact that the best version of the game is still in such a bad state, partially by the community too should speak volumes but no
zealous lintel
things like "YoU dOnT nEeD tO pAy ThE eXtRa In ThE uPcOmIng PaSs" is ignorant at best
burnt tree
"its ags/sg fault we aren't like that"
zealous lintel
ive said this for years, lost ark's ultimate downfall will be by its own communi...
eh its half half
its 50% design
the other is the community
surreal gyro
the design wouldnt be an issue if you had more players
quiet flower
- Buys 29x Azenas
Am I the problem?
surreal gyro
if the game had a 50k CCU nobody would cry
zealous lintel
the design wouldnt be an issue if you had more players
you dont have more players casue of its design
quiet flower
if the game had a 50k CCU nobody would cry
People would cry, but about something else 
zealous lintel
casue koreans are different
burnt tree
It fell out of top 10, PC Bang culture keeps it relevant
surreal gyro
are they tho? we have been saying this shit every time but i dont think its the case
zealous lintel
it is
zealous lintel
ask pine next time he appears here
surreal gyro
this week
burnt tree
Well it still has no content
surreal gyro
๐
zealous lintel
it will get up and bleed more aftewards
burnt tree
Raid raid raid raid, vertical horseshit, raid raid raid
surreal gyro
yes what do u do in other games
zealous lintel
thats the case since the game released
swift tree
u a big boy soon
I just gotta tap ah on my pants
zealous lintel
new content > game gets more players > after 4 weeks i looses more than before
burnt tree
Life skilling, pvp, collecting, exploring, raids. Lol
zealous lintel
yeah as a new player until you hit the wall
swift tree
new content > game gets more players > after 4 weeks i looses more than before
literally every MMORPG is like this, they try to keep within a set cycle for when players fall off for content
zealous lintel
literally every MMORPG is like this, they try to keep within a set cycle for whe...
no
swift tree
rough cycle is 2-3 weeks
surreal gyro
yes WoW or FF are seasonal MMOs
surreal gyro
u think FFXIV has the same player numbers when an expansion drops compared to 8 months later?
burnt tree
They give you majority of the side stuff with the horizontal express now, pvp is dead and the balance sucks, collecting is timegated, there's nothing to explore, raids are raids i have to do them, life skilling is boring and not interactive at all. Going on world chat seeking a wood cutting date like its tinder is sad
surreal gyro
They havent established shit
zealous lintel
yeah but they go back
surreal gyro
they just have a lot of players and you cant see it
zealous lintel
and dont loose more
surreal gyro
and its the whole hypocrisy of the whole situation and confrims what im saying that people wouldnt be complaining if we had more players
zealous lintel
loa is only loosing
swift tree
cause they established themselves with their formula
they're not established, they remain popular because they're market saturated, like League for MOBAs or Call of Duty/Battlefield for shooters
zealous lintel
they would
zealous lintel
they're not established, they remain popular because they're market saturated, l...
tehy are
by there gameplay systems
surreal gyro
FFXIv is a trashy af boring game with the same contnet cycle for over 10 years
robust acorn
loa bad next
zealous lintel
cause everyone has something they can dabble in
zealous lintel
thats the main differnece bara
yeah vets
which are the top of the top
thats the thing
wow isnt about the top
swift tree
cause everyone has something they can dabble in
that's the same with other MMORPGs, they still ebb-flow with content cycles
surreal gyro
the same way maplestory is at the top in KR
zealous lintel
its about everyone
burnt tree
FFXIv is a trashy af boring game with the same contnet cycle for over 10 years
Shit take, just say its not for you its not too hard. I'll agree with the formula itself getting old but its not trash
zealous lintel
that's the same with other MMORPGs, they still ebb-flow with content cycles
no
loa not
surreal gyro
FFXIV has nothin exceptional aside from the story and the casual nature of the game everything else has been obsolete for years
swift tree
ESO, LOTRO, DCUO, DDO, GW2, Rift, etc.
all have bursts with new content
then drop slowly
zealous lintel
did they loose more numbers than keep/gain?
burnt tree
Everything is still relevant, what's obsolete lol
zealous lintel
they dont
swift tree
did they loose more numbers than keep/gain?
depends on quality of update
surreal gyro
obsolete in terms of design and freshnesh Sathona
zealous lintel
depends on quality of update
but they are stable
burnt tree
Fair
zealous lintel
which is my point
surreal gyro
How do u know if they are stable
burnt tree
But it feels like what an MMO should be
surreal gyro
half of these games donteven reveal the player numbers
swift tree
LOA is dropping because Smilegate is ass at maintaining progression easement
zealous lintel
LOA is dropping because Smilegate is ass at maintaining progression easement
no, because noone wants to dabble in that pile as a new player
robust acorn
ff14 design for raid is good enough to be translated basically bar per bar in mhw and mhwild 
quaint wasp
ive said this for years, lost ark's ultimate downfall will be by its own communi...
you mean the gatekeeping, or the handless people making gatekeeping a requirement to enjoy the game?
zealous lintel
you get booted asap before hitting the point where it "matters"
quaint wasp
swift tree
no, because noone wants to dabble in that pile as a new player
no one wants to dabble in it as a new players because the existing playerbase is actively dissuading them
which ngl, is completely fair
burnt tree
LOA is dropping because Smilegate is ass at maintaining progression easement
Yeah because the community is definitely accepting of new players
swift tree
because its dogshit
zealous lintel
great so we are on the same page
surreal gyro
you mean the gatekeeping, or the handless people making gatekeeping a requiremen...
gatekeping has improved a lot over the years with frontier, mokoko bootcamp and solo raids, so i get your point but its nothing like it was
quaint wasp
in KR lost ark is played as a seasonal MMO
you don't play LA as a seasonal mmo btw rofl, if you fall behind ur basically DONE
burnt tree
On KR its seasonal-ish if ure ahead
swift tree
WoW/FF14 are still industry exceptions because they maintain enough of a constant player level that there's no "social panic" by players whenever they login
surreal gyro
you don't play LA as a seasonal mmo btw rofl, if you fall behind ur basically DO...
that's because there are not other players playing the game seasonally and if you play seasonally you compete with the established veterans
in KR that's not the case
swift tree
there's enough people present to make the game feel active and alive
surreal gyro
the community makes the rules for the game
zealous lintel
the game lost its players cause it works like it does
swift tree
meanwhile NAE at fucking OCE peaktime was a ghost town
slender sky
I just gotta tap ah on my pants
gogo tap it bigboi
zealous lintel
now noone wants to even take a look at it anymore
quaint wasp
gatekeping has improved a lot over the years with frontier, mokoko bootcamp and ...
solo raids and mokoko bootcamp just prints out more handless mokokos that forces vets to gatekeep harder
swift tree
gogo tap it bigboi
I need gold
swift tree
bad new player onboarding
that's the ONE thing this current LOA On addressed.
zealous lintel
the only people having a good time are those ahead
quaint wasp
the only people having a good time are those ahead
this
zealous lintel
that's the **ONE** thing this current LOA On addressed.
only partly
surreal gyro
solo raids and mokoko bootcamp just prints out more handless mokokos that forces...
thats a very pesimistic take, its up to each mokoko to socialise find a group and learn the raids to overcome the barrier, in EVERY other game ther is gatekeep once the easy stuff is over and you get to end game
quaint wasp
if you fall behind, quit
surreal gyro
thats not accurate
quaint wasp
if you don't have at least 6x 1700+ its prob time to quit ngl
zealous lintel
you arent done by axing the t3 systems which should have been axed 6 months ago
robust acorn
tldr everyone quit loa
lets play wwm
swift tree
only partly
to a certain point would be the better phasing, which is to 1700. problem yeah, its too little too fucking late and does nothing to fix the NEW problems
zealous lintel
new players will hit the wall
burnt tree
Pls no more MMO andies on my WWM
swift tree
Pls no more MMO andies on my WWM
what about OSRS sailors
burnt tree
New players will get 1700. See you need Frontier title for NM Armoche and quit
Welcome to lost ark
quaint wasp
^
swift tree
New players will get 1700. See you need Frontier title for NM Armoche and quit
yup
If the new island stuff is gated behind Secra armour, I'm fucked and will probably quit too
quaint wasp
I need an extremely good reason to take a low roster level
aka any actually new player
zealous lintel
thats why the graph is only going down in LOA
burnt tree
Plus this cuck here needs to get paid to help new players
zealous lintel
and not up
surreal gyro
everyone speaking for the new players
quaint wasp
If the new island stuff is gated behind Secra armour, I'm fucked and will probab...
its just 1710 no?
burnt tree
That's just how it is lmao
surreal gyro
yayaya
swift tree
I need an extremely good reason to take a low roster level
Roster level doesn't mean shit you absolute shit gibbon
swift tree
its just 1710 no?
It's HM only, 1730
robust acorn
i am just chilling cause i have static 
burnt tree
Don't yayaya you know that's just how it will go down Exu
surreal gyro
but thats not what is happening
quaint wasp
Roster level doesn't mean shit you absolute shit gibbon
I mean its a basic requirement
zealous lintel
SG had time to fix the game in the end of 2024
quaint wasp
It's HM only, 1730
wait so new players can't even strugglebus to 1710 to get armor for soft reset?
surreal gyro
why are you acting like the new players are some disabled people
zealous lintel
but they didnt
quaint wasp
they have to make it to 1730?
swift tree
SG had time to fix the game in the end of 2024
they've had time to fix the game since 2022
surreal gyro
meet each other and play toegher
swift tree
Game is fucked
surreal gyro
WOW WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT
u can do that in an MMORPG
but NOOO THE POOR NEW PLAYERS
THE WALL THE GATEKEEP
surreal gyro
SUCH DESPARATION
slender sky
thats not how it works
zealous lintel
they've had time to fix the game since 2022
well yeah but AGS was in its baby shoes
robust acorn
burnt tree
Bro crashing out
surreal gyro
literally
burnt tree
AGS isn't the problem
zealous lintel
meet each other and play toegher
yeah but there is no players to suistain that
quaint wasp
THE WALL THE GATEKEEP
lmao an all new player guild is just going to wipe 20 times to a raid and quit the game together
burnt tree
Smilegate is, AGS problem was the frontier titles
zealous lintel
ofc there is new players to sustain that
there arent
surreal gyro
and EVERY single year "there arent new players"
wanna bet how many new players w will see this month with the new update?
lets see how you treat them
quaint wasp
0
burnt tree
lmao an all new player guild is just going to wipe 20 times to a raid and quit t...
You talk like you were born perfect
robust acorn
Smilegate table didn't show armour pieces for Secra 1710
or.... tbf could just be like akkan armor 1610 skipping to 1640 on kenuart
quaint wasp
I'll gatekeep them
zealous lintel
wanna bet how many new players w will see this month with the new update?
i did learning runs up until thaemine
slender sky
Smilegate table didn't show armour pieces for Secra 1710
coz its 2 different type of pieces. nm pieces are essentially the kenuart fortress pieces and hm pieces are the aegir pieces, without the difference in ark passive points, just for honing further
surreal gyro
reddit is filled TO THIS DAY with people asking questions
quaint wasp
You talk like you were born perfect
of course not, that's why I only trust vets that have ground this game for years
swift tree
or.... tbf could just be like akkan armor 1610 skipping to 1640 on kenuart
Hopefully Rimeria Chaos gives new gear
surreal gyro
and erturning players
quaint wasp
vs new players
zealous lintel
there were far more than there is now
burnt tree
Yawn
zealous lintel
why do you think the player numbers dip further nad further
surreal gyro
there were a lot of new players with valkyrie release
zealous lintel
yeah and they all quit
swift tree
coz its 2 different type of pieces. nm pieces are essentially the kenuart fortre...
yeah however they didnt show the gear from normal either.
hopefully from the "Rift of Chaos" stuff
surreal gyro
bro
burnt tree
Yep they quit lmao
burnt tree
Very few stayed that i knew off and they quit when kazeros released
swift tree
there were a lot of new players with valkyrie release
they did quit when they reached Karma.
RankedSpeedRunner is a ragebaiting little bitch but Myeura has some valid points
quaint wasp
there were a lot of new players with valkyrie release
and they're all gone, steamcharts don't lie
they quit in october
surreal gyro
guess what i got gatekept on my main as well when Kazeros released, all veterans had to go through G0 everytime a new lobby comes out , HOW DO YOU SKIP THAT? BY FINDING PEOPLE TO PLAY WITH
zealous lintel
i WAS in a guild with 51 members
slender sky
yeah however they didnt show the gear from normal either.
hopefully from the "Ri...
probably coz he went through it in like 20 seconds
surreal gyro
this is not an issue only for new players
zealous lintel
now we have below 17
surreal gyro
its like im talking to people who dont understand the game at all
burnt tree
Solo Brel should have released at June or August for example
swift tree
probably coz he went through it in like 20 seconds
yeah honestly, lack of detail is infuriating, hopefully we get details with dec 10th or dec 24th update
zealous lintel
guess what i got gatekept on my main as well when Kazeros released, all veterans...
problem is
zealous lintel
prblem is
surreal gyro
RU ROADMAP
burnt tree
If we had solo Brel by the time Valk released a whole lot more players would have stayed
tulip charm
they *did* quit when they reached Karma.
RankedSpeedRunner is a ragebaiting litt...
personally i didn't think the new loaon was either good or bad, i agree with johnpal's mindset on this, wtf were people expecting? i found a bunch of tiny qol updates, 1 new raid annoucement, 1 new class, its the same as all the other loaon's
swift tree
Solo Brel should have released at June or August for example
Story Express baked into game should have been the Tier 1-2 update in '22 instead of that weird fucking bandaid approach they did
quaint wasp
this is not an issue only for new players
well just tell new players to go grind a frontier title 
they still have a week to do it
swift tree
HOLDUP
burnt tree
Lol
swift tree
GOOGLE YOU USELESS SHIT
burnt tree
GK at February
tulip charm
other people found the 10x extra qol changes 10 new reasons to quit the game, the new raid a new reason to quit the game, the class a new reason to quit the game, dosn't matter what the fuck they say or change, they will find 100 more reasons to quit, there is no reasoning with people like this
surreal gyro
other people found the 10x extra qol changes 10 new reasons to quit the game, th...
Thank you!
someone gets it
slender sky
yeah honestly, lack of detail is infuriating, hopefully we get details with dec ...
true that. but i wouldnt worry. they didnt leave the ilvl req at the same compared to kaz just to gate the soft reset behind hm only
surreal gyro
GK with our anniversary makes sense
robust acorn
express useless
swift tree
surreal gyro
mokoko in february makes no sense tho
burnt tree
March for Kazeros finale
burnt tree
Bro we are cooked
surreal gyro
thats too far away
swift tree
March for Kazeros finale
wtf
surreal gyro
didnt AGS say thaemine extreme in January?
swift tree
didnt AGS say thaemine extreme in January?
They didnt say anything
burnt tree
No
swift tree
We also have an Express for December...
burnt tree
They said they'd move it
swift tree
SUSSY
surreal gyro
it makes no sense to spread it out so much
burnt tree
Who cares
swift tree
it makes no sense to spread it out so much
because fuck us
zealous lintel
other people found the 10x extra qol changes 10 new reasons to quit the game, th...
while i dont disagree with many being manbabys there is enough valid critism
swift tree
Why is story so late
been an issue since Elgacia
robust acorn
so eos
burnt tree
I'll eos you Sci
swift tree
looks like it
surreal gyro
wiat thats actually bad
swift tree
STOP TELLING ME TO FUCKING SWIPE
brittle hawk
i don't get that
surreal gyro
the new raid should have been in march not thaemine extreme
brittle hawk
swift tree
the new raid should have been in march not thaemine extreme
Just cancel Thaemine Extreme its a waste of fucking time
surreal gyro
i mean the downtime is good for new players to catch up a bit, but for veterans 3 months of Kazeros eh
tulip charm
while i dont disagree with many being manbabys there is enough valid critism
its abit weird memo kept saying the kr players just accept the CURRENT ark grid just because the director said "its a gold sink" i feel like if kr players complained hard enough, they could prob lower the cost per cut for jewels, and maybe remove the negative options
brittle hawk
that's like 2 astrogems to cut
tulip charm
its still a rngfest, but abit better
swift tree
i need that 20k
it costs gold to craft the thaemine mats into useful shit
burnt tree
the new raid should have been in march not thaemine extreme
Lmao that's crazy
brittle hawk
no i will do no such thing
zealous lintel
its abit weird memo kept saying the kr players just accept the CURRENT ark grid ...
yeah like with many things...sadly
burnt tree
That was not gonna happen
zealous lintel
i dont understand their mentality
brittle hawk
no cn gamba event either
swift tree
no cn gamba event either
that's not an event, that's a whole baked in gacha system
brittle hawk
so we will have we will have we will have December express and February express
surreal gyro
Additionally, in the first quarter of 2026 we plan to:
add class changes as part of one of the major updates;
Regularly launch events aimed at supporting new players and simplifying character development.
Q1 for balance patch?
burnt tree
so we will have we will have we will have December express and February express
We don't know
AGS might drop news today or tomorrow
slender sky
their roadmap doesnt fully align with ours then tho? our ingame events all start in december
swift magnet
of course not, that's why I only trust vets that have ground this game for years
pffff cc's that die like flies in armoche nm and gatekeep kaz nm cuz they want cc or 10x title. which is pointless cuz x10 is only g1. you can trust nobody in this game. bad day or bought title. nobody knows
surreal gyro
lemme check the team update from AGS ths doesnt seem right
burnt tree
their roadmap doesnt fully align with ours then tho? our ingame events all start...
We have more new player supporting events than RU
slender sky
no cn gamba event either
what a surprise that we dont get the gacha system that managed to implode even CN, who couldve guessed
burnt tree
We should have gotten it for EoS
robust acorn
what a surprise that we dont get the gacha system that managed to implode even C...
could have been really funny
swift magnet
We kill Thaemine at March, game shuts down
burnt tree
Its ok Paekes ill let you join my Harem on WWM
surreal gyro
"December will be focused on helping provide a better new and returning player experience. " So basically we will be getting the QoL from LOAON this month with a road event and the juicy stuff in February with the anniversary
but no actual new contnet until March
robust acorn
red gl rework dead in ditch
slender sky
gk in feb is hella cringe
swift tree
RU version has also been using more AI then our version
burnt tree
"December will be focused on helping provide a better new and returning player e...
We already knew that
brittle hawk
RU version has also been using more AI then our version
Huh
swift tree
we've also just got new West specific director
brittle hawk
The buff guy
brittle hawk
Wasn't that ages ago
swift magnet
we've also just got new West specific director
we have a director for west?
swift tree
Wtf is gk.
Guardian Knight- changed from Dragon because "She absorbed soul of a guardian" flavour shit
swift tree
we have a director for west?
as of checks watch 7 days ago
swift tree
The buff guy
That's AGS, I mean on Smilegate's end
swift tree
Smilegate hired a NA/EU specific localization and project manager / lead director
brittle hawk
swift magnet
Smilegate hired a NA/EU specific localization and project manager / lead directo...
well maybe i get my cutscnes asap then and not 3 months later in memory chamber
swift tree
well maybe i get my cutscnes asap then and not 3 months later in memory chamber
That's just a thing for raids in general
even KR has to wait
they add them when epilogue drops
swift magnet
That's just a thing for raids in general
ya ik which is totally dumb xD
swift tree
If Smilegate usurps AGS they lose any ability to "feign ignorance" on how their practices are received globally
The Hatestorm will hit them hard
BLESSED WITH VISIT FROM FROG
You'd think they'd put Finale in Jan and add that first Island in Feb to pace out content a bit better but fuck global I guess
surreal gyro
im not happy with the roadmap
the content spread is good with overall prices and pressure of grind
but some things could be pushed sooner 100%
swift tree
"Korea had to suffer with Kazeros for 3 months, now go fuck yourself"
surreal gyro
the new 4 man raid is still on the same ilvl as current raids + you get more Ark Grid cores
so idk why its not coming sooner
brittle hawk
We don't know that
surreal gyro
know what?
brittle hawk
Imagine it's a nightmare raid that's way harder than kaz hm
surreal gyro
You have 3 difficulties you dont need todo nightmare
swift tree
Imagine it's a nightmare raid that's way harder than kaz hm
what they added makes it easier
brittle hawk
Or they take the voldid route and just put ridiculous dps and stagger check
surreal gyro
they literally said thats not the case
NM and HM will be very accesisble
and it shows from the ilvl requirements
swift tree
the preview showed stagger built into health bar
brittle hawk
Okay i was joking ๐
burnt tree
Smilegate hired a NA/EU specific localization and project manager / lead directo...
Yeah i was surprised how accurate subtitles where this time
tulip charm
<:angydog:1315515236123676724>
i need this immediately
swift tree
Okay i was joking ๐
burnt tree
Imagine it's a nightmare raid that's way harder than kaz hm
Nightmare will not be Hell/TFM level of difficulty
burnt tree
But it has speed kill leaderboards and such. Perfect for elitists to disappear to
brittle hawk
ww
unkempt cloud
I guess this will be mechanic
burnt tree
Shadow raids and onward
swift tree
I guess this will be mechanic
they said this is the type of health bar it will have
burnt tree
The boss won't have the traditional stagger bar
unkempt cloud
Oh ok
surreal gyro
literally ahaha
swift tree
Yeah stamina break
ngl looks like this kinda stuff
tulip charm
ngl looks like this kinda stuff
is this runescape behemoth?
burnt tree
Yea
swift tree
is this runescape behemoth?
Dying Light
burnt tree
Also its pretty obvious they won't make raids where you get new set of gear difficult
swift tree
honestly surprised their "we're going to make game more casual" didnt come with a solo version of Serca but gotta remember this is Pilesgate
surreal gyro
i think the plan was to solve this with the 3 dificulty options
swift tree
As long as its easy
g0 be the hardest part
burnt tree
G0 will be the hardest part always
surreal gyro
i have the feeling that Solo raids will end with Kazeros
and then we will go back to group contnet only
surreal gyro
it makes no sense to have 3 difficulties and SOLO mode
burnt tree
They have no reason to cease their development
surreal gyro
in the west
swift tree
no solo would kill the game
brittle hawk
No solo mode LMFAO arechu insane
swift tree
bro the amount of complains and asks for Brel solo by now is insane
its spammed on official, reddit, steam and twitter
burnt tree
Yeah cause they were too fkin late
Solo Brel should have released either June or August
broken lava
solo raids would only die, if they bring in flex raids
swift tree
a whole fucking year is a joke
swift tree
solo raids would only die, if they bring in flex raids
solo is included in that flex number
burnt tree
Yup
broken lava
solo is included in that flex number
yes but it would be a new name I'd guess 
surreal gyro
the perfect case would be so that new players can get to 1710 fast and do new raid in group mode at 1710 and its super easy and chill like FFXIV difficulty
swift tree
yes but it would be a new name I'd guess <:xdd:1121744360766193704>
not really need to, just also give them solo coins and the 'solo' denomination activates when dropping the size to 1 
burnt tree
Yeah but FFXIV community is different
surreal gyro
this would be a very good starting point into the Act II stuff
burnt tree
LOAs community is like the ranked speed runner dude
brittle hawk
broken lava
I just hope we get all the QoL like this month
burnt tree
Minus a few people Willing to help or are more open minded
swift tree
LOAs community is like the ranked speed runner dude
terminal case of the spectrum?
surreal gyro
I just hope we get all the QoL like this month
we will not sure about the balance patches tho
burnt tree
"i want new players but not in my lobbies"
broken lava
If they change Guardians to 1 Room and let them drop gems I'm more than happy
kind oriole
Everyone says how good FF14 community is but in real they are more toxic than ours community lol
brittle hawk
They are changing to one room
swift tree
VALINAK CARD FROM AEGIR
burnt tree
FF14 community is more passive aggressive
swift tree
FF14 community is more passive aggressive
LOTRO's act like Home Owner Associations
burnt tree
LOTRO's act like Home Owner Associations
Rofl
swift tree
cant wait for bullshit
swift tree
Apparently that LOTR MMO is still in dev?
nah that is dead, this is the other one
surreal gyro
Apparently that LOTR MMO is still in dev?
not anymore after the AGS stuff
burnt tree
Oh yeah
swift tree
this is the one that came out in '07
burnt tree
RIP no elf romance
swift tree
that already destroyed the ring and has reached Harad
burnt tree
Oof
swift tree
RIP no elf romance
volume 1 has Elf Bae
surreal gyro
RIP no elf romance
BG3
fresh flint
surreal gyro
KR alaready cooming over the new raid boss
burnt tree
shitty old 2008 render
Not bad
burnt tree
KR alaready cooming over the new raid boss
Same
swift tree
Inven is obsessed with AI slop
surreal gyro
honestly
brittle hawk
her LEGS
surreal gyro
i really like the new raid design
brittle hawk
burnt tree
RIP Sorc, release Witch
broken lava
okay but like what would a witch even do?
burnt tree
Me
swift tree
RIP Sorc, release Witch
They lost their chance by fucking over every skin entry
swift tree
when male sorc
there's actual bodytypes in Rohendel too for a good one
could do something like a magicka bloodhunter
burnt tree
Nah the Male Summoner in the quest
swift tree
oh ye the muscle daddy elves in Rohendel
not the buff bambri but there's some soldier mages
in Elzowin's Shade
surreal gyro
i want the buff ones
swift tree
i want the buff ones
gay-ass mf
surreal gyro
sush
burnt tree
Hes a mage, he won't be buff
surreal gyro
your name is Barachan please
burnt tree
Exuberant
swift tree
your name is Barachan please
exactly, I AM one to talk
burnt tree
Im GK main all my life btw
surreal gyro
hehehe
swift tree
slender sky
cant wait for bullshit
9 more days of this pain
swift tree
capy-bara?
no
surreal gyro
worldly hawk
swift tree
Sylvain Sword-mage
surreal gyro
that aint it chief
dull flame
https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/character/NA/Slimslimy what should i prioritize?
lunar stag
question, why the f do people on the lsot ark reddit think we getting 30% gold cuts?
They don't know korea has no bound gold?
surreal gyro
question, why the f do people on the lsot ark reddit think we getting 30% gold ...
i mean reddit always thinks the worst
lunar stag
and we had bound gold for a while
surreal gyro
i think KR has character bound gold only no?
lunar stag
for hell i think yes?
swift tree
they only have character bound gold and it exclusively applies to Hell and Express
worldly hawk
https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/character/NA/Slimslimy what should i prioritize?
probably books
surreal gyro
and all T3 content now
slender sky
both shitters gone, can we get a western event shop again and not a stupid kr copy that has nothing
surreal gyro
but yeah they nerfed the T4 gold cause its unbound
lunar stag
not saying our ecenomy is goo, itsvery trash
swift tree
asian themed Citadel Guard mf
lunar stag
like relic books should not be that expensive
slender sky
question, why the f do people on the lsot ark reddit think we getting 30% gold ...
coz reddit people do not think. they saw something on a KOREAN showcase and think we get a 1:1 copy. we never gotten the gold nerfs that kr got, and if we did we got it way later than them comparatively. ags is way more generous with those
surreal gyro
it will deflate with the contetn draught after Kazeros
swift tree
burnt tree
question, why the f do people on the lsot ark reddit think we getting 30% gold ...
Because its Reddit
slender sky
i used to create those on the BfME games coz they looked sick, but they were expensive and shit 
swift tree
dumbass literally ignoring the changes to getting roster characters from Tier 3 up to Tier 4 w/ Karma and Adv Honing 40
brittle hawk
What happened to adv honing 40
surreal gyro
new more casual raids , 2 new solo raids, removal of weekly homework like unas and wht not
swift tree
What happened to adv honing 40
thunder globes on solo shop
swift tree
Did they say that
that happens when they add it to solo
lunar stag
new more casual raids , 2 new solo raids, removal of weekly homework like unas a...
tbh, sol oMordum is such a huge thing its crazy nobody mentions it
surreal gyro
ikr
and if AGS keeps the same philosophy it will be same gold as NM
so a good gold earning raid in solo mode
idk
people are dedge
lunar stag
it makes putting characters at 1680 so perfect, as you don't even need tostay at gate 0
brittle hawk
swift tree
and if AGS keeps the same philosophy it will be same gold as NM
and if we get the gold shop change, getting built for 1700 gets 10x easier
zenith canyon
it makes putting characters at 1680 so perfect, as you don't even need tostay at...
with this u can push 1700 EASY without lobby shit
brittle hawk
Plus... ARCTURUS TOUCH
surreal gyro
you can basically build your characters completely solo and have a decent build
brittle hawk
40 bottles on nm
surreal gyro
Pradise / solo mode shop / gold shop
swift tree
40 bottles on nm
- 20 from solo shop
brittle hawk
and probably some from solo shop
swift tree
- characters can buy 5 level 7s with weekly roster bound gold from solo / pre-rolled bracelets and cheap accessories
KR not having roster gold is dragging rest of game down ngl
zenith canyon
+ characters can buy 5 level 7s with weekly roster bound gold from solo / pre-ro...
cuz its nothing for 1700+ chars and DENTGE bozos are DENTGE and they dont care whats below that
lunar stag
Next step to delete frontier titles and stop gatekeep new players by titles
i don't tihink this will work
zenith canyon
for me its GIGA OMEGA BIG W loaon
lunar stag
i think t hee way to not gate keep people is probably some kind of equlizer?
swift tree
people complaining on Reddit that "nothing has been done to address roster building" either aren't actively playing or already got built
lunar stag
i know smilegate will never do this but its the only way
swift tree
i think t hee way to not gate keep people is probably some kind of equlizer?
no PF only MM
or give double gold for MM
surreal gyro
people have been complaining for ages that you cant lvl up a character outside of Events
you now have a solid way to do this
lunar stag
tbh, i don't even care about item power
surreal gyro
am i delulu?
swift tree
you now have a solid way to do this
THATS NOT GOOD ENOUGH I WANT ARK GRID CHANGES HGURR UDDRRR
zenith canyon
am i delulu?
say that to that reddit doomers
lunar stag
like holy shit people with x10 reclears dying to normal patterns at kazeros
fallow marlin
say that to that reddit doomers
first mistake is reading reddit
quiet flower
like holy shit people with x10 reclears dying to normal patterns at kazeros
Are you surprised
brittle hawk
lunar stag
Are you surprised
i am not just surprised iam shocked
quiet flower
i am not just surprised iam shocked
fallow marlin
although inven got really clean lately
slender sky
people complaining on Reddit that "nothing has been done to address roster build...
this loa on has probably been the best in terms of new player experience since the introduction of solo raids. but theres no new players to celebrate it. community consists of 99% doomers and vets who are deranged
fallow marlin
all the trolls playing aion 2
lunar stag
i have way worst pc, way worst net and i don't die once, like thisnormal patterns, move riight or left
burnt tree
all the trolls playing aion 2
oml
slender sky
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855703067901952030/1447296567391420579/4K...
i love that you drop your coins
swift tree
makes inven look smart
that was added to the board
slender sky
so toxic in a funny way
burnt tree
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855703067901952030/1447296567391420579/4K...
Argos is an evil guardian he'd never have fu-
quiet flower
that was added to the board
What were the "obvious mistakes" that people wanted to have mentioned?
zenith canyon
What were the "obvious mistakes" that people wanted to have mentioned?
rng cores thats all
fallow marlin
that was added to the board
so far inven been rather postive
rather the main thing that people got riled up about
was all the people claiming
they are not making characters because of the 6 char limit
slender sky
first mistake is reading reddit
swift tree
What were the "obvious mistakes" that people wanted to have mentioned?
RNG cores / Gold income tied to raid-grind driving rat rosters (they still seem to be in denial about this)
fallow marlin
when it turns out 96% of the players dont even have anything above 1700
lunar stag
that was added to the board
i don't think we getting zosma reveal this soon, i think what will happen is that we going fight thaemine again, and fight kharmine and then they combine into 2 gates one hwhere thaemine is in control and one where kharmine is in control 2-2-3 will be them in balance
swift tree
they are not making characters because of the 6 char limit
which is fair
burnt tree
Yeah
fallow marlin
so its mostly making fun of those people
swift tree
i don't think we getting zosma reveal this soon, i think what will happen is tha...
Yeah Zosma is Act 3 stuff
burnt tree
It was a valid point by the director ngl
zenith canyon
RNG cores / Gold income tied to raid-grind driving rat rosters (they still seem ...
idk man i can grind gold in paradise 
swift tree
It was a valid point by the director ngl
the frustrating part for Global is that our playerbase is entirely different
quiet flower
RNG cores / Gold income tied to raid-grind driving rat rosters (they still seem ...
Only the most degens play the alt rat rosters though
zenith canyon
the frustrating part for Global is that our playerbase is entirely different
mostly 
west
swift tree
idk man i can grind gold in paradise <:KEK:707316240888365117>
that has been the single biggest breath of fresh air for that
surreal gyro
im waiting for that December 24th epilogue quest, THE SAID its gonna look great and be one of the best cutscenes theyve done ๐ im ready to be disappointed
burnt tree
Idk im more like the average KR roster, not degenerate enough to have so many alts above 1700
wise pasture
all missing cards
burnt tree
Or even at 1700
quiet flower
My main would be 1755 if I didn't play alts
swift tree
<:frijj:1055213377762361344> all missing cards
I need mokoko bootcamp for Gustaven and then I just have those 2 shitlords
slender sky
that has been the single biggest breath of fresh air for that
lets hope the chaos rift thing is another decent activity outside of raids
wise pasture
ye, i just finished mine with mokoko selectors ๐
swift tree
solo brel announcement- im not gonna count this as a "needed" card
surreal gyro
how you dont have it lmao
swift tree
how you dont have it lmao
I dont run brel, Ive been one of those people needing solo mode like 4 months ago
charred void
how you dont have it lmao
i still miss echidna and behemoth cards
surreal gyro
burnt tree
I have full 30 on all of them tbh
swift tree
HoW dO yOu NoT hAvE ThIraIn
zenith canyon
I dont run brel, Ive been one of those people needing solo mode like 4 months ag...
same
surreal gyro
HAHAHA
lunar stag
When is behemoth solo... My boy is stuck as mokoko points farm
burnt tree
Never
burnt tree
Water set was my last to max
fallow marlin
wise pasture
not even 5% archdemon yet, 
quiet flower
surreal gyro
thats crazy
slender sky
now that weve seen the ru roadmap at least we know theyre not gonna space out brel/mordum solo releases and put both in dec? or am i trippin
quiet flower
Where was the Russian roadmap?
charred void
any linkers
swift tree
now that weve seen the ru roadmap at least we know theyre not gonna space out br...
yes
surreal gyro
they did put solo aegir immediately back then
so i assume it wil be the same case this time
lunar stag
do we know what type is the witch of agaony?
zenith canyon
slender sky
<:Weirdga:905213052276862986> not even 5% archdemon yet, <:FeelsReeMan:397436349...
4,3% is max archdemon without bracelet roll
swift tree
do we know what type is the witch of agaony?
no she isnt out yet
burnt tree
i forgot my account
How tf
surreal gyro
ancient probably?
swift tree
She'll either be Matter, Ancient or Gods
quiet flower
February for GK 
burnt tree
Yeah probably ancient or matter
High-key doubt she will be God tho. They will reserve it for the big ones id say
lunar stag
Weird, Ru is taking a break?
surreal gyro
February for GK <:deadge:1058780762951909406>
its gonna be good with the anniversary stuff but yeah 2 months is quite a lot
burnt tree
Weird, Ru is taking a break?
So are we
slender sky
yes
thats a relief, i was afraid they would pull some shenanigans to put brel in dec and mordum in like feb lmao
broken lava
she will be a complety new type and you need the new 50 card sets done that we get with the Sea of Aldebaran
burnt tree
We just had a double raid release + TFM. Downtime is expected
surreal gyro
KR also had like 5 months of downtime?
lunar stag
KR also had like 5 months of downtime?
huh? no
swift tree
she will be a complety new type and you need the new 50 card sets done that we g...
you joke but that gateway island drops alongside her
tulip charm
<:frijj:1055213377762361344> all missing cards
at least you have 1 kakul card, i have 0
swift tree
KR also had like 5 months of downtime?
3-4
lunar stag
like 3
burnt tree
They got Kazeros at August, next raid at January
surreal gyro
Kazeros came out in August
charred void
she will be a complety new type and you need the new 50 card sets done that we g...
need 30 set on raid release or forever gatekept
burnt tree
4 months
swift tree
Kazeros came out in August
August came August
slender sky
I guess I can just save gold for 2 months to giga hone her on release
i hope 1 of the engr is hitmaster, i aint touching no positional boolsheet
surreal gyro
so 4 months and something
burnt tree
She releases first Wednesday of January
fleet plover
So the nerfs are not coming this month ๐ข
fleet plover
T3 nerfs and adv honing
surreal gyro
i think this is for the balance patch
burnt tree
We don't know
swift tree
So the nerfs are not coming this month ๐ข
that's events and balance patch not structural changes
burnt tree
We didn't get our own article yet
swift tree
they dont announce shit ahead of time
burnt tree
^
slender sky
T3 nerfs and adv honing
that are not events
fleet plover
burnt tree
One leg in the grave, but never too late
swift tree
we also have an express event that starts in Dec, makes no sense for a 2nd one in Feb
burnt tree
We will probably get another
burnt tree
August express December, 1700 express with GK
surreal gyro
no we dont know what type of event we getting in decemeber
burnt tree
wheres the fun
Imagine if he announced roster gems
swift tree
its weird not seeing inven not on fire
too busy gooning to the witch
surreal gyro
it looks like a road event in december and hyper express in February
charred void
wheres the fun
they gave up and play with the boobslider in aion 2 now
burnt tree
The ragebaiters play AION2 so no chaos farming
broken lava
Pay2Aion 2
swift tree
it looks like a road event in december and hyper express in February
AGS has specifically announced an express for us in Dec
burnt tree
Well unless you wanna auction house ig
fallow marlin
since an important mechanic is locked behind a monthly sub
broken lava
it's as P2W as any other KRMMO so eh
burnt tree
What now Exuberant
surreal gyro
the roadmap from RU covers January - March
burnt tree
You don't say
broken lava
no shit
surreal gyro
if January has almost nothing
broken lava
even KR only has a Roadmap till march
burnt tree
Our roadmaps cover the same
zenith canyon
they dont have express going from 17th december sooo
fallow marlin
pvp balance is already dead in aion2 btw
fallow marlin
3 whales can wipe an entire horde
swift tree
burnt tree
pvp balance is already dead in aion2 btw
Saw a video, the losing team won purely because a single whale joined them
swift tree
it's 1 ticket, fuck that
covert remnant
Now I know why master brawler book went from 25k to 120k yesterday!
Someone trying to monopolize
zenith canyon
it's 1 ticket, fuck that
ya dont pick elysian below lvl6
swift tree
Now I know why master brawler book went from 25k to 120k yesterday!<:deadge:1046...
First Frontal class with tits
fallow marlin
Saw a video, the losing team won purely because a single whale joined them
whats funny is this is only the beginning ncsoft always goes full speed a year into the game
swift tree
ya dont pick elysian below lvl6
below 8*
burnt tree
whats funny is this is only the beginning ncsoft always goes full speed a year i...
Oh yeah ik learned it from Aion 1 and Blade and Soul
west latch
tbh i wish they wouldve done a solid one and gotten us anything
swift tree
OSRS revived my nostalgia
swift tree
tbh i wish they wouldve done a solid one and gotten us anything
we dont have ours yet
and RU one didnt cover Dec
we have an update schedule the 17th
west latch
ye true
zenith canyon
idk why ppl act like RU roadmap is 100% ours?
west latch
i mean we always get same shit
swift tree
i mean we always get same shit
yes,... BUUUUUUTTTT
zenith canyon
not this time
covert remnant
Yes but don't we get it later than them
swift tree
there's been changes on smilegate's end
zenith canyon
they dont have any moved expresses
west latch
ah maybe
covert remnant
Also fk u SG, give the new class early
charred void
Also fk u SG, give the new class early<:Smadge:1053832505029034044>
wait until they show the class after goonerknight
and the class after