#lost-ark-discussions
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it is
Doesn't sound like that to me
theres a huge focus on exploration/islands
the new raid is easy
per directors comments
they are adding challenge mode finally
they said that but havent announced any big changes to gold income .... BUT..... the 2 new raids are not as "grand"
1710 NM/1730 HM/1740 Challenge
doesnt that look like that 1 sailor
2x 4mans, first one same item level as Kazeros
bakachan
"shadow" Barakas KNEW
I can't wait to get them on west smh
what did he see
new ark pass deathboi
show him the wallpaper
Booba
Sathona resume gnarly
Not gnarly if not
true
Snowball men pls stop


bad Word
both new raids are 4-man
there's no new gimmick or system, it's just gear that helps in reaching 1740+
It's closer to an Argos Raid than one of the more recent ones
š
Something more?
also gold shop (includes bound gold) that you can use to buy cores, gems, accessories, fusions and stones
accessories roll quality then you can pick slots
it's like a weekly goldsink variant of the CN Workshop Gacha
So nothing
are you asking what else?
Winter themed Argos, Witch Raid, Assassins Creed af side-game, new islands, new continent, main story finale for Kazeros, additional islands, whole new daily content- Guardians will rotate instead of spammming same one...
doesnt rly help that he barely explained anything but just went from bullet point to bullet point
dude wanted to get out of there ASAP
this too lol
Sacria is fucking pretty and Shift + G skippers got no clue why it's important

besides "Oh hey, we collected a masterpiece of that"
time to burn it down again

Sea of Aldebaran will be story gated, need to finish Act 1 to pass the Whirlpools
where
intermediary island content as MSQ between
Agak

closest thing to slutty male that KR can muster

hopefully it's not 1-piece
This looks like a garbage version of our desert skins
ikr
gonna see if I can mix n match tho
already got that going on
Camels in Sacrian outfits is fucking cute tho
or Llamas
w/e they are
new weekly boss fights that are souped up Field bosses, have weak points like Behemoth
Showed a hydra looking one
the female one is better ngl
it doesnt look like they slapped 2 outfits together
i know deathboi would
Oh
Sathona
Story Express ends at 1585 to match Paradise and Express events
nani
Dancing argos betch
yeah we going?
Yes
its gonna be gnarly
We are devouring


bruh how fast
wats story express diff with powpass
doing things, not doing things
its not a 1 time, its baked into game 
oh
you do story -> you're level for next area (including KT)
story express was released occasionally and you got gear ready to take you to the next region right away
Voldis spits you out at 1580
now they merged it with the story, so a new player can start playing even if theres no pp etc
You finish Punika -> given 1415 gear -> do South Vern -> Given 1460 gear -> do Elgacia -> given 1475 gear -> do Pleccia etc...
elixir removal
how new panel looks
they said something about earning those points
wtf is happening with master brawler books on eu?
it was 25k yesterday or da before
Anybody got a summary about LOAon?
they took so long to do this because they had to design all these icons
wtf
also casually mentioned the possibility to try out classes before creating them to see if they would fit you and went past it in like 20 seconds
The market is being shorted
new class looks to be front attack, ppl prearing
Mass inc. books were 100k and now they're 170k
yea shit getting bought out
gg


It's it being baked into evolution tree
rmt enjoyers they sitting on so much gold they dont care. they can get all the books they want for new class

i just said that
Those are new icons though right
It looks like a new section
nice change
Ohh nvm
yup
The character creator also looks 100x better
in terms of layout
good UI/UX overhaul
They should just give trixion at character creation
that's what this is lol

You can't change skills and stuff here right
yes
not full trixion but preview trixion

the fact theyre now adding health bar to guardian raids is crazy to me
at least lets you play with identity, ark passive and hyper
whilst removing flares/phero and making them rotate
makes all those elemental cards more worthwhile too

This is the pc version?
yes
its clearly inspired my mobile version
wait didnt they say they were getting rid of plumes
thats what i didnt quite understand, why do they make them rotate now when they mention a sentence earlier that they essentially remove all the mechs off them
Also DK looks exactly like I pictured her in my head. A feral bitch
would frfr
front attack cunt build
NOOO A FRONT ATTACKER?

I'm not sold on her yet
no more x50 despite being x0 health
one build at least yes
i enjoy front attackers. perfect 
I just want another hitmaster fk all the back and front type shit
they're not entirely removing mechs just the ones that add unnecessary time padding like having to find/chase them
Get rid of it for every class ongod
too bad she isnt like wildsoul and you can run around as a wyvern
That would be cool
making both engravings frontattack would be diabolical
She can transform tho right?
I want guardian knight to be side attack
New relic book
she will have a human and a dragon spec
from the looks of things
she doesnt really transform like wildsoul
not full on transform, she grows wings and and gets angy
yeah she just grows wings

when she uses dragon skills
if shes a front attacker, dragon spec will probably be the tanky
In 3 days brother

Still donāt really understand why they changed it to guardian knight
Cause smile gate
ew
cant wait the nonfront attack spec to be underwhelming and the frontattack one to be gigabroken
themeing
It's still basically a Dragon Knight since the head Guardian is a fucking Dragon
Atlantis looking mf

Well nobody will call her GK
DK
She will be DK forever
Diddy knight


can they remove sups next loa ?

what the
Why am I the only one that gets snowballs
youre the chosen one

These emotes are cute!
coz we cant have nice things
tru tru
im sure theyll space out brel and mordum aswell
i wonder if theyre doing the nm hm strat
They are

brel december and mordum february or some dum shit
where are the sups for prog runs
Any summary on the loa ON
joining rtc lobbies

whats rtc
ah1-20 is silver aswell?
ready to clear
This needs to be a thing for all raids tbh
Nope, just nerf
possibly
yeah they're not joining that shit
fake
Thats fake, i am the real saintone
I mean, they have to stop with rng sistems or make 1 char account, or the game will literally die in the west
The mmorpg with the best combat/characters ever made, killed by his preadtory monetization and KR grinding rng mentallity
Its really sad
Ngl there isn't a single mmo with predatory monetization/rng systems
And bots
the problem lost ark is x6
Saint has faith that maybe change roster adquisition to 1 char
"Play games to have fun"
More people need to realize this 
We have free will - if you're not having fun, you can just stop
So true
And they talk about it and said they will do nothing about it
I mean
Thats the kind of game you playing bro
Its been like that for 7 years
:v

Nah
drakania players tsk
So it LITERALLY IS DRAGOON
BDO copied the Warrior class from another game bro
Anyone got the clip for it?

Wait I'm confused what do you gain from the 1710 new raid coming up if NM players don't get the soft reset?
thats not the official channel tsk tsk
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So like was that Luen
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@neon cedar We getting soft reset? you got a TL;DR?
I didnt watch so idk
Not caked up enough. Prolly gonna quit

I saw a raid trailer. Surely it has to be a soft reset. I cant imagine a raid needing +22 or higher honing
huh
What ilvl is it?
looks cool but the ultimate v skill looks cringe asf
isnt it same ilvl as kazeros lol
Is the raid mat system a soft reset? or do you get gear elsewhere and the raid unlocks 21-25 like relic to ancient in tier 4?
they said 2 raids
oh yikes
these mfers
i go cry
Alright, so like brel/akkan style

Did the announce anything regarding gems or books? Did the prices triple over night?
There is a solo gold shop where you can buy level 7 gems
That's about it I think
3rd clear
yea
3rd tfm kill just happened on eu
Should make the gem market go down quite a bit

I am kinda shocked the loa affected the market that fast holy
Every honing shit is going insanely high in price
Yep
whats gonna make gems go down?
People are quick to react to nothing burgers
Db just mentioned you can buy level 7s for 20k
I would assume bound but why buy a 150k 7 on the market
i don't think honing mats are only loa on tho
i think part of it is assgems
the assgem crafting takes a lot of resources per week
Itās a quick 4 man raid too apparently
bound 7s that you cant fuse?
Coz they can be fused for higher gems
sounds like a waste long term
they should allow us to fuse solo shop gems
If we're buying them for 20k its surely bound and not fuseable
how long would it take to get a level 10 gem from solo shop anyway
yeah so you're spending 200k on something that you'll replace down the road
dont think it will affect gem market at all
Itās supposed to be more for the newer peeps
Its 220k for a set of level 7 bound. Or 1.6mil for a set of unbound. You dont think that will drop prices?
no i dont think so since expresses these days more or less give you a full set of 7s for free
and nobody makes chars without expresses anymore
i mean some of my alts are like 6 lvl 7s and the others are still lvl 6. i aint buying from market then might aswell just buy the cheap ones and be full 7 
We got two 7s and four 7s from our express. Thats a far cry from 11 "nearly full" set
How many level 8 gems do you guys think express gives?
2 at best
I assume 2-3
Then yes sure. If you use 4 events over a full year you get a whole set of 7s for free. That is true
Yeah it is
the new lvl 7s bound will be the floor for normal modes of the latest raids
Itās like a premium express thing for 2 8s
When are they getting all this stugg
Next week or 24th
A paid express sounds diabolical
Honestly the real excitement is Dec 10th with patch isn't it
Are they getting anything next week
Maybe it's just me but from what I understood some rewards will be duplicates you know?
Like 2 f2p and 2 paid
Something like that
Bless the guy who timestamped the event
what does that mean
Cool on the 10th
Honestly this isn't terrible if my understanding is right. You pay to immediately get to the express item level.
I hope we get solo raids on 17th and we don't have to wait for them...
From what I have seen, a lot of people were asking for that lol
Oh damn, solo Brel & mordum?
Is that really what it was
so few mokoko lobbies zz
What this means, is that we will now only be a week or two far from KR, no more on time guides... š
Oh there is a loa onchannel, bye bye š«”
Wait what?
No that is not what anything means
?
Tbh the one thing that could save the game in the west is if we got raid releases same time as KR
This is loaon season, an exception
I think that would be something that could make the game far more interesting to players
only thing that can save the game in the west is not making ark grid so terrible
Because they no longer play based on guides
#1447153047636676689 Im just gonna skim this
Some people will still wait for guides lol
OH you just now saw this
Blind prog has been far more fun than guide based raiding, but it's foolish to do it
enjoy skimming
raids been a bit too mech heavy lately to blind prog
That's perfectly fine though, not everyone would like blind prog
being able to possible get what kr gets 1-2 weeks after is great
hopefully thats the case
most people will do guide this region is lazy af and has no hands anyways

Abyss dung march lmao, and another raid in work
ye
I imagine that blind progging normal raids could be very fun for average-ish players
They aren't too demanding on gear and skill, but you'd still get the excitement of figuring out things on your own
Tbh, how the f did KR discover you had to punch a wall and the one opposite to it?
Like that is a weird mech to prog
You would get community discussions about how to solve certain mechs etc
Blind
It's very forgiving
Probably just happened by accident
Blind progging hard mode is probably more hit and miss
But if we didn't have frontier titles then I think that would be fine too
yeah but having people on the same level is great
some people dont find time to watch guides and shit
Act 4 blind prog could've been pretty fun after echidna
Like G2 seems pretty straightforward after beyblade mech
at the same time. different learning styles
But tbh, i think no matter how we try to reach them, we will never be simultaneous with KR. The best we can do is be like 2 weeks behind
Kazeros was a huge jump tho
We went from 3 months to 2 months behind
We got less time between mordum and Kaz than they did right?
Like significantly less
We couldn't even fit Thaemine extreme in-between
Yeah lmao
yeah
i think they made it very clear
they do not want us at the same pace
i remember gold river saying that iirc
I don't think they don't want but they probably can't
Like straight can't get everything translated and voiced in 1 week, they aren't Hoyoverse or the other big companies
they just need to stop locking insane character power behind rng systems
wtf bard crazy rng


Did you see my jewel cutting today?
when a new rng system comes out that costs gold make the oldest rng system cost silver
and so on
idc how much gold it costs
just hate how unlucky people get to be weaker than lucky people for months
elixirs all over again
Why is it a race to be stronger. I thought we were here to
Have fun not see number go up

damn, another shit soft reset
Maybe if you play golf you donāt wanna see numbers go up
I mean the logic of seeing someone at 5k CP and being like āwell why am I not that luckyā when youāre clearing all the same content is baffling to me

blame the gatekeepers

i mean sure theres reasonable gatekeeping
but someone who looks sus probably can outdps someone that looks fine
Agreed, when I was progging kaz and act4 I noticed that trend
but someone thats sus has significantly less room for error and a far lower ceiling
2/3 done, this mokoko event is such a pain in the ass
do 6x moahdoom nm and you nearly done no
thats like a lot of gold lost tho
so do i uninstall or is it game of the year now 
Neither play wwm
but i don't like china
what the
-60k, +540tokens +faster runs
depends how much you value time
hmm

3 cubes 1 lvl 7 t4 gem? 
ill consider sacking a week of mordum hm for tokens

ill just do a cube after this armouche and see how much each ticket is worth
hes winning
alos under nexus>cube rewards
https://www.lostark.nexus/
think my game is cursed


Wowwee so many
missing out on the weekly ones from not opening them to get coins
think he will be fine without 20 guardian stones
Theyre not weekly
last box is weekly
at least that shit event is over on the 17th
-75 reds 
-100k silver 
wtf is happening

the relic hit master is 84k lol
i just don't get... People with x10 clears on kazeros dying to normal patterns

wait is new class on feb or dec
am i just too good or there has to be something, my game is lagging like shit and i am not dying, something isn't right in thecosmos, is the univurse just telling me to get into a static

Dec for the Koreans
For us uhhh probably feb


Hi botgar
ok im done watching doomers on twitch and reddit time to do my dailies
sonic. ..
each 1720 cube ticket worth about 12-13k in gems alone
guess ill do mordum nm next week then
maybe

Loaon looks fine
Dk dropping in 3 days for kr but better drop with pp and event in global too
New classes always drop with a powerpass and express

i'd settle for brel 2.0 solo sooner 
don't care about new classes, wish they would treat older classes better though 
Praying for a Christmas miracle

This


W retirement

depends. do you like more of the same without any real changes and some island hopping sprinkeled in ala global release then you good

the changes are good, they just arent for endgame players 
???
the only good thing is they finally cut of the atrocious t3
ok
WHY IS ARGOS DANCING ON TWO LEGS
We got express delayed last month. Ideally we should get it this month, but since they donāt care we probably wonāt
tell me
what do you do as new player when you reach "endgame"
gonna sit in lobby for 3+ hours like before?
hes feeling different
no u quit
and theres no solution to that
Yep and quit subsequently because there is no way you will ever get relic engravings, karma, gems etc to meet cp requirements
Sad how many people think this
they didnt touched the real problem
With less than 6 characters
like at all
No it isn't sad lmao

It's true
partially the real problem lies with the community 
you get a prestige express tho 
why is it sad?
Only korean game imma play is Cookierun
What if relic books are just going up in price because there arent enough players and the bots are gone to a more profitable game
ure always a negative nancy dragon.
fork over some more money


7s are on the gold shop
no flex raids
flex raids werent promised
doesnt matter
Just jabe them put 10s in the gold shop
ok idk what you people think this is but it doesn't take 5 minutes to add
Ez milk
Lost ark is one of the first kmmo to breach a larger audience in a wide scale manner and this is how people feel after that
which is the problem
agreed
Other changes should have been made though
they should be the first thing to be developed

instead they are thinking about more ways to extract money from you
its always been like this and always will be
Yeah because kr mmo industry are all like EA

it wasnt before
why are some people mindblown about the fact that they milk for money
Prob takes 3-4 months tops if they were 4 man raid/dungeons . The prob is 7 ai companions

that stuff got worse in the past year
rfirst 3 different subs
then paid login track
now the expres thingy
whats next?
i dont have any of that ? you are not forced to any of this you can still play the game

I donāt like this Argos. Standing like a human and dancing. PUT IT BACK
yeah you are not forced
its ok we will probably not get that
so isnt the community
so where is the issue ? 
nah
it is LIMBUS COMPANY
but i had "my fun" right? 
but the payed thing is just one of many things
Nothing pisses me off more than this dumb shit
so its whatever
I thought about ark grid some more and became worried
THAT'S NOT AN ARGUMENT
people just dont think ahead cause "i had my fun"
Our gems are not tradable
'don't participate' is NOT an argument
and thats the problem with gaming communities these days
So you're not making any gold from it
no ark grid changes
stop being STUPID
Also, our major source of gems eats a lot of gold per week
no real new player change apart from easier alts
korea doesnt complain about ark grid to change it
Like in Korea asgems are eventually gonna drop in price
Meanwhile we will still be paying 43k per gem per week
Relates to this #lost-ark-discussions message
Ur buying that shit?
For a random purple gem at that
Because they can buy astrogems from market to advance faster, we can't we have to wait years until we drop enough astrogems and cut good ones.
It's like the main source of them
I aināt touching it with a 10 foot pole
On the chars I haven't bought them
That doesn't really make any sense at all
They have like no gems at all
Just cut the blues and fuse the greens to get free greens
Yeah but check your alta
The tradeable gems have to be crafted by players from gems they loot
My alts have some 14 and 17 set activations
They arenāt quite as high as the main but they have some still
Alts
My alts have nothing to cut
Forget getting cores, even if I had cores I couldn't use them
I have a valk when relic core
I've cut everything (including greens) that she's got and I can't activate 17
Idk expecting 17 set week 3 is a bit ambitious no?
Like gem acquisition is a huge limitation on your non-maina
Set? I'm talking about one core
Yea
im still funneling jewels to my main as well too
people playing 6 mains instead of 1 and be like shit is expensive or whatever 
even more reason to not do ark grid on alts
17 is the like big spike

I think I have a 17 set on 3 chars, the other 3 are at 10s and 14s
Yes but I'd expect to have got enough to activate one 17p core if I cut everything I acquire in 3 weeks
Idk, the expectation might be too high
you sound lucky
17 feels like the end goal of the system

I will say my blue crystals will never recover from it XD
But it has been done
I think I went from 4k to 1.7k blue over the past like two weeks
I could carry your burdens for you all the way to EOS
Buying those refresh tickets
Just think that 1 refresh ticket costs like 15k gold and maybe u won't use them that much anymore

15k for a reset
reset yes
Iād pay 15k for a fresh purple
was Loa on good ?
If you arenāt using them on purples going bad ur kinda trolling no?
Meh/10
mid
was mid
5/10 teh
i heckin love new islands in lost ark
adding more job to job ark
lets see if they put mandatory stuff behind those again

some potions
or new runes
we like them
Lost Ark will have to do
gated on island una
But yea the refresh tickets and refill tickets are giga worth
oh lol
Idk how to make money. Im cutting trees for fun
3 hours of tob every 2 weeks and we chilling
punch cow
Idk if 13m is achieevable or insane
Oh I mostly just raid these days for money
I think the money dragon, money dragon v2, and money snake are still pretty good
Yea, Im too much of a dumb mokoko to make that kind of money. Idk how to raid f2p
F2p is kinda cooked, I think the best money there is buying from shops and selling on the ge 
F2p Lost ark ?
Thats the impression I got but thats fine. There is plenty to keep me busy f2p for awhile for now anyway
are you not subbed to echidna's OF
Def stay f2p until you finish the quests
hottub stream
Itās a good time
100%
Refresh tickets especially when cutting greens and blues
I only have like 3 left. I gotta look up good gear to kill a dragon
You will have to pay
For this
Earning enough gp while f2p for a bond is a fool's errand
Magic or rune scimmy
Bro didn't even get a single line, even on half a bingo
I think the first time I did it, I spent like a week
Shit was annoying

You gonna go fight Elvarg?
Yea probably but Ill cross that bridge when I get there
Idk what that is
Dragonslayer 1 boss
Oh yea
I remember back in classic
I would train on the skeletons near the dragon
And would occasionally see people attempting it
I only have Black Knights Fortress, Corsair Curse & Dragon Slayer to do
Then they would occasionally die, I would walk in there and pick up their shit
but I got bored of questing so im just leveling shit half afk
Some of the osrs quests go hard
(back then when you died you dropped everything except your 3 most valuable items)
Others are one small favour and fucking underground pass
Saw the same thing happen when I did monkey madness when you fight the demon
But then I gave bro's gear back
I really liked the magic shield smithing quest
I actually figured out the crafting mechanism on my own there
Also temple of light (in rs3) was really fun without a guide
Literally took me the entire day from morning to evening to do that one quest
This was me minutes after getting my first membership XD
om
The first thing I did was the zanaris quest to get a dragon longsword
Was very cool back then
bro got the swagger boots
is this safe to assume DK be released next year on NAEU ?
cool , probably i will use the event on another class this Dec then, I only have a few days to play at xmas vacation
february probably
with anniversary
oh yeah feb could make sense too
well loa on news they will drop for sure, wouldnt expect roadmap this week
the anniversary selector on february
loa on one we will probably get as a "december patch gift"
how to solve ark grid issue
i mean ark grid is a non issue in a couple of months technically
curious how new chars are gonna deal with being months behind on ark grid
events gonna give you 30x green-purple boxes to catch up /s
mokoko arkgrid even winter 2026 
guess DK will have a side boobs skin 
the fact that shes a lazenith 
lazenith does have good boobas, source : Prunya and Lost Ark M boss 
majoirty of thecommunity lmao
What abomination is that
is it even worth it to sell ability stones anymore? lol
most of the ones i'm seeing that used to be 2k have gone down to 1-10gold 
I think awakening drops
Is still ok priced
Some other stuff is like 3-500
Most not worth selling
fluctuation is an understatement now i guess š
Matt's team didn't qualify???
Got dq by one person
wait did they mention anything about female sharpshooter ?
lol
They didnt mention the gender unlock weirdly
yeah but boobas sell
I thought it was 8
8 + hetsu reclear
you mean GK?
I was counting hetsu reclear in the 8
Or the doc that has the teams isnt updated
Because its written 8 there
I think the doc has 2 7s
Because they arenāt sure hetsu reclear counts
Darksma cleared
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS4fGhyguPMZAJ_cFoukpJJ_5HuwwBmtFyU_eG1V_SBFpLSRLUP-VaZNV4yJo-SoFtCqLhAC7STPwee/pubhtml
Yeah GK, but i prefer the DK name
What is green gaming?
Look at all those legitimate gamers
I was really hoping for 2-2 being a checkpoint
That's what I really wanted from loa-on
Since it's not, I don't think I'll be doing hm on anything other my main
Probably ever
I'm just straight up not doing it at all lmao
This loaon was actually good. The problem many people have is they arenāt playing the game ācorrectlyā. Main 1 character, RMT/f4 shop. If you have leftover time and love the game more, play more characters
Play the game like a game and relax 
Itās not that simple, u need to spend to enjoy and relax. If you donāt spend itās a stressful game
Btw the winter loa on in 2024 got wildsoul released in Jan 8th 2025 in KR and NAEU followed in Feb, this year DK got released early in KR next week, so there maybe a small chance DK got released this Dec in NAEU as well
also skips most of the actual changes
stresses me out more

also i have ivory tower ptsd on bard
i want a 16 man raid on the difficulty of kazeros
ew
same
and if u have 8 man static u have to split up

My static fell apart
you dont raid
wait why ? is it because of loa on
My bus static
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Itās supposed to be easier than our current Kazeros raids tho, so it should be much quicker ā esp. once homework
except night mare
+1
I mean thatās not content most of the playerbase will engage with
apparently Saintony is quitting
I feel like heās already been out the door for a while now. He wasnāt even one foot out ā more like one foot in
all the og steamer there is only Stoopz left
And heās still gonna be one foot in lol, he said heāll play each new raid release
oh theres memo too
But thatās kinda mostly what heās been doing
did he
he said he will be there for next one because he has already the char there
but after that nop
yeah he said the rng system progression is just vomit
cant deal with that he will go play gacha
I just donāt believe ā the raid after Secra is 3 months away. No one he doesnāt come back after 3 month break just for a single raid. Itās free content
Surely Ark Grid is nerfed in 3 months 
it is not the ark grid the issue but the thinking and the way they do thing in korea
even if ark grid will nerf a newer and bad system will come forth
yep
Iām a reformed gacha gamer
They tripled down way too hard on the ark grid for sure lol
12 layers of RNG AND no pity AND insane gold spend

at least the cores have pity















