lost-ark-discussions

[kind oriole]

[late portal]

thats the real saturn i believe

[wintry depot]

Its real

[robust acorn]

wait wtf it was 30k today

[wintry depot]

He was streaming on this channel

[kind oriole]

new class release

[knotty wave]

is it because guardian knight has charging skills?

[vapid bluff]

is this for dragon knight or something

[robust acorn]

crap

[kind oriole]

ye

[native copper]

Damn. I should have bought it.

[knotty wave]

crap

[kind oriole]

but no ones know yet

[native copper]

Super charge books.

[tulip charm]

there is nothing cringe about piloting his 6th kaz the race event on someone else's account to get the entire team dqed tmrw

NOTHING CRINGE IS GOING ONNNNN

[kind oriole]

if it will works on her

[wind dagger]

[late portal]

[vapid bluff]

if Dragon knight isnt on the 17th (I really doubt it will, but Im praying), then it will be February and these will be crashed again

[wind dagger]

they;re not idiots, we are just not their audience

the game survives withoout 99% of the f2p anyway

[obtuse oyster]

It won’t be feb

[tulip charm]

also stoopz dosn't need a wife, he lives with saintone
they gonna adopt a kid like snark

[late portal]

[slender sky]

thats why you permaban ppl like that on the spot. theyre just a cancer to any gaming community that will keep spreading if you dont cut them out

[wintry depot]

They have a kid

Hes called earl

[vapid bluff]

They wouldnt release thaemine and dragon knight at the same time

[tulip charm]

he needs to be shocked with a collar immediately

[native copper]

Fur baby

[wind dagger]

doesnt he have big pillow

behind

bodypillow

or was it some card board thing

[swift tree]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/1pgh59i/changing_6_character_limit_isnt_the_solution/ posted my bait

[late portal]

what is one thing smilegate could do in lost ark to bring back a huge number of players

new and old

[burnt tree]

eos

[wind dagger]

do not tie viertical process to new raids

[wintry depot]

yes

[vapid bluff]

Thanks JameZayer

[wintry depot]

from honed

[tulip charm]

delete guardian knight and send out another specialist class, will bring back a huge number of korean players

[obtuse oyster]

Thaemine, then Annie event in feb, new class march

[tulip charm]

[native copper]

Honestly, just give everyone a maxed out 1760 Esther char with full ark grid full 10’s full ark passive full books etc etc.

[vapid bluff]

new class march would kill this game

[swift tree]

that's my Discord name lol

[vapid bluff]

so fast

[obtuse oyster]

New class would be paired with new raid

[swift tree]

It was my Senior nickname ._.

[vapid bluff]

Wait if they actually make new class release in march, that would be the most braindead marketing decision

Theres no way

[native copper]

Like I’m not even kidding. Everyone loves free shit.

[late portal]

😮

[swift tree]

would be nice if we got the Act 1 finale in 2025 but doubt it

[wind dagger]

witch, new class in mage

[vapid bluff]

Wildsoul released in February

[swift tree]

inb4 we also have an update on Dec 24th

[burnt tree]

wouldnt mind ngl

i want the finale asap

[vapid bluff]

I was under the impression we already killed Kazeros

[late portal]

[vapid bluff]

is the current raid really a To Be continued ending

[late portal]

yes

[vapid bluff]

.

[burnt tree]

what exactly gave you that impression

[swift tree]

You destroy his physical form with Vairgrys, he cant be fully killed without using the Ark

[tulip charm]

not yet, we gotta fight him at least 4 more times in different raids just like brelshaza

[vapid bluff]

Cause I was asking in here a while ago and people were saying the act is over

[burnt tree]

before vaigrys leaves he says Kazeros still lingers

yeah skippers and morons

[wind dagger]

sowhy we dont fight kazeros with the ark int eh first place?

[burnt tree]

the finale would be settled in a quest

not a raid

[swift tree]

tl;dr you do what Zinnervale proposed at the start of the North Kurzan story

[vapid bluff]

Oh I see

So someone can still end up dying is what you're saying

[burnt tree]

yea

[swift tree]

yes

[tulip charm]

the finale is kazeros is gonna merge with armen, and thirain is gonna merge with karmine, and we fight the both of them in a new raid

[burnt tree]

from the trailer we saw Kazeros crashing out while attacking all the sidereals

[tulip charm]

[burnt tree]

and Shandi didnt look too good

also Zheng stfu

[vapid bluff]

Can we get rid of Azena and just have Inanna

[burnt tree]

im tired of comedic what ifs

[burnt tree]

no

[vapid bluff]

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/yess-yes-gif-25420589

[vapid bluff]

Shandi dying would make the most sense

[tulip charm]

shandi has to avenge zinnervale

[vapid bluff]

The ending could be a Yoz funeral

[tulip charm]

spoiler alert, zinnervale is still alive somewhere and lost his memories, if thar can tank kazeros there is no way zinnervale can die

[vapid bluff]

Thars a gigachad

Zinnervale is built like a twig

[swift tree]

Thar is wearing a necklace that is a literally "No U" when it comes to death

[uncut dirge]

im watching the dragon knight showcase

and it feels like i'm lagging

why would you post a character showcase at 24 fps

[knotty vale]

why are people saying its going to be easy to get a full roster? is it just the gold to 1620 change?

[uncut dirge]

are we console gamers nor something

[vapid bluff]

Im really disappointed? They said we could transform but I didnt see a single dragon transform ability

[tulip charm]

who is saying its easy to get a full roster?

[vapid bluff]

Idk if they are jus holding out

But why wouldnt they show that in the showcase

[tulip charm]

because its not easy, it takes you ages to build up to it, thats assuming you even want the extra characters to play more raids

[knotty vale]

something about how this express is going to be different

[wintry depot]

basically a story express always there, you dont need to hone till akkan gear

[vapid bluff]

They are talking about the story express

[wintry depot]

just need to do the story

[vapid bluff]

But didnt smilegate say it was 1 time only

[uncut dirge]

nvm

i clicked the reddit link

[wintry depot]

• the silver honing 1580 to 1620

[uncut dirge]

the smilegate version is fine

[burnt tree]

they merged it into the story perma now

[swift tree]

you make a new character, you can level to Voldis in one immediate path, no honing involved

[burnt tree]

^

[robust acorn]

@wintry depot do we know the price for paid mokoko

[tulip charm]

ill be honest, i didn't think they were gonna do a 4man raid again this soon, at least i wasn't expecting it

[swift tree]

Voldis you have 1520 Brelshaza gear and then can hone to 1580 really easily

[knotty vale]

god thats amazing lol, i have one charactor ive been working on and its a month to get the valtan and vykas mats

[vapid bluff]

There wasnt a price tag

[knotty vale]

or 3 weeks? something like that

[wintry depot]

no and even if we knew kr price, it maybe wouldnt be same for us

[robust acorn]

do we have presecedence

[wintry depot]

its 2 weeks normally

[swift tree]

Yeah, that problem was completely avoidable but unfortunately AGS never gave us the Story Express that skips it

[wintry depot]

2 weeks valtan vykas
3 weeks brel
4 weeks akkan

[wind dagger]

wtf

[swift tree]

Korea has had a permanent story express for a single character since Tier 4 released. We never got it

[wintry depot]

i mean ru had 1460 story express

not like it helps that much...

[vapid bluff]

Any way to milk the paid pass

[swift tree]

not for building all 6 but it at least got a new player over the hill

baked into the game is a godsend tho

and fucking about time dammit

[vapid bluff]

Long overdue yeah

[wintry depot]

yeah but i meant 1460 is kinda dogshit

comapred to where pwoerpass was getting you to

[swift tree]

It feels like applauding a kid for saying "1+1 = 2" but here we are

[wintry depot]

still needed 3 weeks for brel and 4 weeks for akkan

[vapid bluff]

One of the biggest limiting factors for a new player is someone coming in being like "hey is this a good time to play"
And the answer being no wait for next month

[peak mango]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1nzumVlyFI astrogems things

[swift tree]

1520 is kinda dog when the max level is 1755 but at least 1520 -> 1700 at least is a smooth path

[vapid bluff]

1520 at least puts you into the good raids

[uncut dirge]

yo

new class will be hit master destroyer

right?

[vapid bluff]

1580-1620 is genuine ass

[uncut dirge]

she even has perfect swing n shit

[surreal gyro]

we realy need to see the patch notes i repeat

[vapid bluff]

Akkan fucking sucks, Ivory Tower fucking sucks

[surreal gyro]

it looks like there are a lot of things they didnt cover in detail

[swift tree]

Ivory Tower giving Tier 4 mats tho

[obtuse oyster]

Probably not for one spec

[wintry depot]

Wait its not even till 1580??

[vapid bluff]

The raid is just ass

[surreal gyro]

isnt it 1520 gear? which is late T3?

[swift tree]

No idea what level the gear is when you finish Voldis but the MSQ is 1520

[surreal gyro]

yes i think its the ilvl of the gear

[tulip charm]

he didn't know this...?

[surreal gyro]

so Akkan gear

[swift tree]

mid tier 3, 1520 is Brelshaze gate 4

[vapid bluff]

the express goes to 1680

[surreal gyro]

is it?

[wintry depot]

Yea

Yikes

Ok fuck this loa on

Time to doom again

Jk

[vapid bluff]

.

.

.

[slender sky]

im pretty sure the subtitles said you end up at 1585 in voldis

[uncut dirge]

wait new express only for characters below 1680?

[wintry depot]

But yeah that is disappointing

[wintry depot]

Hope so

[swift tree]

story express?

[uncut dirge]

or do you mean the new permanent express gets to 1680 only

[swift tree]

that would make sense

since Punika gives you 1415 gear

etc.

[brittle hawk]

you wish

[wintry depot]

1580

[vapid bluff]

the story express spits you at 1585, and you can use the built in one time express to skyrocket yourself to 1680

At least thats how I read it

[swift tree]

yeah, and on other characters you can use Paradise

[vapid bluff]

Ye

also 1585-1620 no gold anymore so

[swift tree]

If you dont think that's a W then you're dumb

is it overdue? fucking def
still a win

[surreal gyro]

i agree with bara

[vapid bluff]

It's a great change

Debatably the best change of LOA ON this year

lowkey

[wintry depot]

Oh

Ok

W loa on

[stable kelp]

were they adding lvl 7 bound gems from solo shop or was that only from the paid express thing

[wintry depot]

[swift tree]

holy shit, my 6-char gold post already at 2k views

[surreal gyro]

its going to be a new shop that will require character bound gold

[wintry depot]

Its the npc that you can get them for 20k gold

[vapid bluff]

paid express gives some level 7s and level 8s

[swift tree]

Ok, that's a W

[stable kelp]

ahh okay

[wintry depot]

5 limit per char

[vapid bluff]

We dont know if the free express will still get some

[stable kelp]

any mention of ilvl requirement?

[vapid bluff]

The gold shop should come on the 17th lowkey...

[surreal gyro]

ofc the free one will have gems lmao

[swift tree]

new gold shop that's per character. It has hold limit

[vapid bluff]

We need that NOW

[slender sky]

everything else wouldve been weird coz the powerpass drops you off there aswell

[tulip charm]

i think bara said they added 5x lv7 bound gems in the event shop, you can buy this with a small amount of gold

per char

pretty good change, my rat bard can finally reach 2k cs

[vapid bluff]

20k gold per gem, 5 per character

[tulip charm]

[swift tree]

not event, permanent "character growth shop"

[tulip charm]

completely worth

[slender sky]

one doomer eliminated

[swift tree]

it lets you spend both bound and regular gold on some strong character boosts

[vapid bluff]

100%

[swift tree]

5x 7 tier 4 radiant gems, and watered down versions of the CN Workshop Accessories/Stones

the accessories have a weekly limit too

[vapid bluff]

the blue is free

and there are no gems

in the icons

[surreal gyro]

it might just not be included theres no way they dont have gems and accs on the F2P version

[swift tree]

yeah rip

[swift tree]

it might just give level 6s but the level 8s are paid

[surreal gyro]

yes

and even if this the case, i dont think AGS will allow it

[vapid bluff]

does anyone have this shop translated

whats the legendary chest at the bottom for 40k gold

also are these weekly reset

[swift tree]

sorry wrong image

[vapid bluff]

That was correct no?

it said arc grid chest

[vapid bluff]

and the legendary chest is arc grid

[surreal gyro]

this shop is definitely a W for veterans as well

[swift tree]

legendary Ark Core it looked like

[uncut dirge]

is it over

[swift tree]

google translated it as "Grounder"

[vapid bluff]

DO we normally get these

[uncut dirge]

lost ark from #8 to #10

[worldly hawk]

yeah time to uninstall

[swift tree]

we won't get the right-side until Feb

[worldly hawk]

EoS soon

[surreal gyro]

no new content / Aion2

next

[uncut dirge]

beaten by dungeon fighter online

and aion 2 both

[vapid bluff]

100 pheons... im salivating

[swift tree]

Bro who gives a fuck, I play an MMO that isnt even on there and has been going straight for almost 20 years

[uncut dirge]

this is what the koreans play

[surreal gyro]

yes but

Aion2?

content stagnation?

[swift tree]

It includes match-based games alongside RPGS, its a shit metric

[surreal gyro]

like

Since August KR had no updates

[uncut dirge]

also next week poe2 as well

so the chart in 2 weeks might be brutal

[swift tree]

factually wrong but ok

they've had no vertical progression updates but have had events

[surreal gyro]

what did KR get in terms of content expansion

[swift tree]

Lost Ark doesnt usually get Oct/Nov updates for KR

they get seasonal events

and the national holiday event

[late portal]

lol

[fathom cloak]

[vapid bluff]

Memorizer clowning the west

[swift tree]

Memorizer is a doomer clown

he's like this EVERY Loa On

[vapid bluff]

Thats not his take

Thats the west take, he thinks this LOA ON is a dub

[swift tree]

I mean yeah

half of that is "chasing newest raid for gold income"

[uncut dirge]

it is better

it's just not the stuff people care that much about

SG needs to learn that

[quaint wasp]

memorizer is truly the addict

[uncut dirge]

"long term systems" = bad

what you wanna do instead is

[quaint wasp]

there's a reason lost ark has been losing players

[uncut dirge]

give lots of short term systems

or give short term systems in limited form

[late portal]

im okay with new systems but the amount of rng is insane

[quaint wasp]

idk wwm is full of long term progression and its the best game I've played in years

[uncut dirge]

relic books should've been max 5 books by aegir

[quaint wasp]

legit the only issue I have with wwm is the combat is ASS

[swift tree]

too many event raids that disappear after done

[quaint wasp]

compared to LA

[uncut dirge]

10 by brel, 15 by mordum, 20 by act4/kazeros

for example

and it would've avoided so much doom and gloom

[late portal]

ancient books teased at loaon summer

mark my words

[swift tree]

doubt

[late portal]

i know

but would be so funny if they did

[quaint wasp]

should have just given us ancient books with THIS loaon

so relic prices will fall

[uncut dirge]

bro it's new

[swift tree]

people rushing to get relic complete also shorting market ._.

[uncut dirge]

look at lost ark and what people said about it a month after release

[surreal gyro]

WWM is not an MMORPG

[quaint wasp]

LOA when new was a swipefest to pay 15k to play argos on release

[uncut dirge]

"lost ark is an mmo that respects your time" n shit like that

[late portal]

[uncut dirge]

even argos was like

[late portal]

respects

yeah okay

[uncut dirge]

3 months after, no?

[swift tree]

closer to something like Fable or if you could do AC Odyssey co-op

[late portal]

respects your time but abuses your wallet

[uncut dirge]

wait, you don't know the meme?

[quaint wasp]

that was said by doworkhk or stoopz?

or saintone

who apparently QUIT

[late portal]

oh i know its a meme

[uncut dirge]

stoopz

[quaint wasp]

man knew kazeros was too hard for him

[swift tree]

Saintone has had his foot out the door for a while

[quaint wasp]

ye should have swiped harder

then sunk cost

[knotty vale]

is the story gear express event on 17th?

[surreal gyro]

god forbid people want to play other games

xd

[uncut dirge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRX6IQsWfnc

[summer oasis]

tdlr on loaon?

[swift tree]

Or chasing better views/money as a streamer

[late portal]

would you guys be okay with rng systems if it were to say cost silver and not gold

[surreal gyro]

New player : W
Veteran: Mid/the usual

[late portal]

https://www.twitch.tv/memorizer

[uncut dirge]

people say they hate rng systems

[zealous lintel]

4/10

[uncut dirge]

but they don't actually mind them

as long as the RNG doesn't separate them from their friends

[swift tree]

Ws but not the exact Ws people wanted, Veterans mad at no immediate Ark Grid changes (despite indirect QoL they didnt notice).
6 character limit not changed, but not the actual issue that needs addressing.

[uncut dirge]

or leave them behind the curve too much

[zealous lintel]

great for new player intro regarding early steps of gear

[swift tree]

Yes

[uncut dirge]

like honing RNG before argos release was absolutely stupid

[knotty vale]

rng systems are fine as long is there is a reasonable pity imo

[swift tree]

only because silver can be earned from everything

[robust heron]

LOA is saved, Ark grid is fine, Relic book are fine, market prices are fine, honing is fine, progression is easy

[swift tree]

meanwhile gold is almost entirely raiding

[uncut dirge]

but honing RNG these days, especially on mains (outside of like 24 and 25 weapon) is pretty much whatever

[late portal]

I think I would be fine with rng systems that start out costing gold

but if you continue to add them say ark kgridrid

you change the old ones to silver cost

[uncut dirge]

the problem isn't RNG systems per se

[swift tree]

should be silver as soon as new one comes out

[surreal gyro]

didnt they do this with Eilixirs and Trans?

[swift tree]

the problem is lack of maintenance on the systems once new shit is added

[swift tree]

no

[late portal]

no idea

[uncut dirge]

it's that you need to be able to keep up with the difficulty spikes (gear requirements), but can get screwed by RNG

[late portal]

i main 1 character

[swift tree]

Trans/Elixirs still cost gold

[late portal]

[swift tree]

only event elixirs are silver and with how they work now most event ones brick upon opening and can't be dismantled for parts

[surreal gyro]

like you get a ton of silver eilixirs and Transendence cost is ajoke

[brittle hawk]

i need more silvers

[swift tree]

oh there's a shit tonne of QoL of it, but again, core problem isnt fixed- and its a pretty dumb setup

[brittle hawk]

they have become more and more stingy with event silver

[uncut dirge]

me too

i'm starting to run like 1540 character chaoses

to get silver

[brittle hawk]

although crucible gives 1m per char every week while its up

we now have no lopang

[swift tree]

probably in prep for Tier 3 silver honing I swear

[late portal]

i also feel like its harder to come by silver since they got rid of unas

[uncut dirge]

i'm actually thinking of pushing all my alts to 1580

to get them the crucible silver lmao

[late portal]

i personally didnt mind doing 30 characters of lopangs

[brittle hawk]

yeap

oh lopang was the fucking worst

but at least it was an option

[late portal]

do it x3 on 30 characters

[swift tree]

just wait until Towers are gone and new players need shards

[late portal]

90 lopangs

[swift tree]

time to do 36 raids a week to get silver from Tier 3 raids

[brittle hawk]

[late portal]

[brittle hawk]

Worst thing is you can't even do old chaos gate sto capitalise

[swift tree]

Thaemine/Ivory giving Tier 4 mats

[late portal]

blame the bots

[swift tree]

cant even do multiple chaos a day now

rip achievement

[brittle hawk]

i liked summoner a lot before ARK passive should i raise it 1700

i liked both ms and co

[late portal]

[brittle hawk]

with new pass

[brittle hawk]

[late portal]

great game

[swift tree]

I mean up to you

[brittle hawk]

they should raise character limit honestly

and make only 1 daily instead of guardian/chaos

that would increase playtime majorly

[knotty vale]

is the story gear express event on 17th?

[burnt tree]

we will find out soon when AGS posts their LOA ON article

[burnt tree]

they wont do that, their reason was valid as well, but they could have made it give char bound gold atleast

[knotty vale]

is that expected to be a today thing?

[brittle hawk]

Mebbe

[knotty vale]

i z

[slender sky]

somewhere between today and tuesday probably

[wise pasture]

[fresh flint]

How’s loaon going

[swift tree]

mixed changes, still raid-focused game

better mix of raids/horizontal moving forward

Ark Grid still ass (for now)

[kind oriole]

but upcoming raids going from 8 mans to 4

[swift tree]

There's a few announcements that make building characters a fuck ton smoother

I'm eating well as a solo raid enjoyer

[fresh flint]

I’ll wait for the written list

[swift tree]

15/25 aint bad

[knotty vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1447204396596465754/image-1.webp?ex=6936c59f&is=6935741f&hm=7bc4aa871a303c26966b40b00bd097072780e47b6e7e06b07e951e378061f598&

[brittle hawk]

no paradise change, no dominos (or did i miss)

[swift tree]

This was made 3 Nov

[swift tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ac4rdwZfZA

Dominos mentioned

[broken lava]

can also checkmark Brel Arcturus touch

if we get solo mode, the touch is also coming

[brittle hawk]

the touch

[swift tree]

yeah gonna update it on the 10th w/ patch notes

[brittle hawk]

even mordum doubles YAY

And surely solo shop update

[swift tree]

this counts for Petrania mentioned

[brittle hawk]

Hopefully with hm mordum mats so i never have to touch that

Ngl i still haven't watched a single guide for any raid

Except kaz nm

[broken lava]

I coped for Solo Mordum and I actually nailed it xdd

[orchid galleon]

hey, i got about 30 card packs what cardset should i use it for?

[brittle hawk]

Its so boring who tf wants to study to play a game

[swift tree]

that won't give you 30, save them until you're more filled out

[orchid galleon]

but what card set should i aim for

[swift tree]

do you have LoS 30?

are you a support main?

[orchid galleon]

ye i got los 30

and no im not support main

[swift tree]

then the Flame/Earth/Storms Breath sets

[orchid galleon]

and what cardset is used for kazeros 1710?

[late portal]

best news from loaon

[swift tree]

LOS

there's no "best set" for Kazeros, just LOS is the one most people are guaranteed to have at 30

[orchid galleon]

okeyt

[swift tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghyWqQJ8bDM Xmas themed Serenity is not what I expected it to be

and its fucking majestic

[orchid galleon]

i think imma go for earth 24

[late portal]

you know what i wish they would add to raids

something eso did

add outfits as drops in raids

not just damn mounts

[fresh flint]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-up-then-down-excuse-me-uhhh-what-the-heck-scared-of-you-gif-675755946193480599

[swift tree]

those outfits are part of the crafting metagame tho

fucking motifs

[late portal]

[fresh flint]

Idk how I feel about that post

List*

[swift tree]

it's missing some details

[fresh flint]

Yeah anyone reading that would be bit hyped in the slightest

[swift tree]

like the character shop that lets you buy extra weekly cores, we dont have the full details of Brelshaza/Mordum solo shop changes.
and there's no full details on how any of the new horizontal stuff is in terms of size/scope

[fresh flint]

Meh

[swift tree]

Raids moving forward seem a lot more comfortable tho

[fresh flint]

Boring loa on it seems

[swift tree]

doesn't help when most of it was announced ahead of time

[fresh flint]

They’re idiots

I’m glad I didn’t wake up for it

[swift tree]

Korea playerbase preventing a lot of necessary QoL by playing like absolute rats

I can bet you even with that gold for gems/accessories shop KR players will still have shitty extras in the 6-makeup to rice farm with

[fresh flint]

Oh yeah did they touch on the gold earner limit

[swift tree]

yeah they're not changing it, but they're changing how una gold works

it will work like Guild Bloodstones where you get more weekly gold based on weekly activity

[fresh flint]

Una gold is like the most irrelevant gold there is. It’s 10k every week.

[brittle hawk]

What

[swift tree]

yeah so making it more rewarding for actually playing the game

[fresh flint]

Ah okay

[brittle hawk]

i hope this turns out to be a buff FOR once and not another ner

f

[swift tree]

gold shop that gives you 5 level 7 gems, decent accessories, a legendary ark core (weekly) and other stuff
per character

[brittle hawk]

not that una gold meant anything at old really

[fresh flint]

Oh wait that’s hot

[swift tree]

100k for 5 level 7 gems

[fresh flint]

Fuck that’s so good

Holy fuck

[brittle hawk]

100k for one gem in real market

[swift tree]

can use paradise gold on it too

[brittle hawk]

i hope this might affect the market a little positively

[fresh flint]

Same

[swift tree]

there's a lot of sleeper changes that push game in right direction but it's not some grandiose massive change that ppl wanted

[fresh flint]

That’s a large chunk of gold eliminated from having to spend now

[burnt tree]

question is do i try to +25 or not frfr

i want the glow, but ill be pushed back to +17 or +18 with +24

[broken lava]

only 5 in general or weekly 5?

[swift tree]

on top of Elixirs/Trans being removed, 1620 honing silver, Story Express Voldis spitting you out at 1585

[swift tree]

5 total per character, menu said hold limit

[trail tendon]

we prob get new glows

hopefully

[burnt tree]

yeah 1

[trail tendon]

[burnt tree]

but sir

as u can tell

i like purple

[fresh flint]

Lmao the new Esther level

[broken lava]

still good but should be more imo

[swift tree]

they also gated the express goodies behind a paywall to fuck with rice farming alt accounts

[burnt tree]

ill swipe for those lvl 8s frfr

[fresh flint]

Huh?

[burnt tree]

my dragon going to the moon

[burnt tree]

yea

if u want the lvl 8 gems from express u swipe

[fathom cloak]

[swift tree]

have to swipe to get these from new express event

[fresh flint]

….

[late portal]

oh chris is up

[brittle hawk]

it better be 1500 crystals max

[late portal]

too bad he works

[swift tree]

aye

[burnt tree]

i dont think it will be over 1000

or something

[brittle hawk]

if so i will swipe

i hope so

[burnt tree]

still more valuable than premium login rewards

[surreal gyro]

its better than putting a pack for 100 bucks in F4

[swift tree]

they're also going to cut down guardian raid mechs, add a 3rd piece of daily content and rotate guardians

[burnt tree]

oml

[surreal gyro]

cause they always do those with new classes

🙂

[late portal]

cant wait to get this

[burnt tree]

ill buy u gyro if u fund +25

[late portal]

[brittle hawk]

2 level 8s is like 800k

[burnt tree]

ark pass premium btw

[brittle hawk]

[surreal gyro]

hahah

[late portal]

im a premium expert

[fresh flint]

I still think it’s stupid. Express events are meant to help out. Making us spend even 5$ on it is kind of ridiculous

[surreal gyro]

there is a F2P version of it its not like you wont get anything

[burnt tree]

the main rewards arent gated

[swift tree]

it also didnt mention Thaemine and Ivory now giving Tier 4 mats to players above 1640

[surreal gyro]

we need to see what the F2P has first

[slender sky]

you still have a functional express as f2p, theres just some extra goodies attached

[burnt tree]

u funding me +25

[brittle hawk]

i think they gutted it tho right

[surreal gyro]

you think im a whale or what

[brittle hawk]

no more GOLD

so...

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[burnt tree]

i didnt say that, but u have +25, help ur fav greek out

[brittle hawk]

f2p is kinda screwed

[fathom cloak]

W

[slender sky]

theyve shown a couple of meaningless pictures

[surreal gyro]

you could have one as well if you didnt roleplay in WWM

[brittle hawk]

but we'll see how they put it for us

[swift tree]

there's gold in both, extra gold in premium

also karma stones + azena blessing in premium

[burnt tree]

i dont have enough gold/mats to get +25 since i pitied +24

[fresh flint]

It would only make sense is the f2p side was untouched and the paid was genuine extras. Will have to wait and see.

[brittle hawk]

i hope they don't give us the same one that kr got

[surreal gyro]

filthy casual

[swift tree]

extras are accessories, level 8s, azena blessing, karma stones etc.

[burnt tree]

playing wwm has nothing to do with it

[brittle hawk]

because that would be despairge

[burnt tree]

Im broke

and as an f2p i dont buy gold

[slender sky]

i mean we dont know, ppl just assume the worst coz of a 10second powerpoint slide

[burnt tree]

and such

[brittle hawk]

yeah

[late portal]

Yeah because you bought the 40k boat

Cant fool me

[swift tree]

POWERPOINT, THE REAL EVIL OF THE MODERN WORLD

[late portal]

[burnt tree]

it wasnt mine lmao

[fresh flint]

That’s why I said wait and see

[brittle hawk]

2 weeks

or 3...................

[burnt tree]

but that boat is a better investment than esther

[brittle hawk]

yeesh

[swift tree]

oh and post-Kazeros this game becomes AC:Odyssey low-key no joke

[burnt tree]

esther so bad, SG will let ppl convert back to ancient

[late portal]

That shit made me laugh so hard

[burnt tree]

same lmfao

[fresh flint]

I don’t know what that means

[burnt tree]

exploration focus

and such

[late portal]

The fact you can change your Esther you spent 10s of thousands of dollars on is a slap in the face

[fathom cloak]

im playing shadows rn. i was like wait that looks familiar

[fresh flint]

Oh I see

[burnt tree]

and we will be hunting twilight order sacrians

[swift tree]

hunting down Twilight Order members

[late portal]

wtf is this

[burnt tree]

like how in AC games you assasinate key targets

b4 the final boss

[fresh flint]

Good I can’t wait to cut heads off

[swift tree]

literally what I just said

[burnt tree]

they also had to censor the abyss dungeon trailer for youtube

[fresh flint]

Oh that’s cool looking

[swift tree]

it's also the exact same as the AC Odyssey one

[burnt tree]

cause the boss is goring out

[fresh flint]

HAHAHA

[burnt tree]

yea

[fathom cloak]

[swift tree]

like near identical lolkek

[burnt tree]

next boss btw

[burnt tree]

AC Shadows is similar but not as flashy frfr

[swift tree]

even down to the "assassinate all the branch leaders to reveal the main leader"

[late portal]

she can bite me with her fangs

[surreal gyro]

peak

[fresh flint]

What the fuck why she look like that

[brittle hawk]

Her face is pmo

What is that

[late portal]

[burnt tree]

Wdym

Shes a witch

[swift tree]

dont worry, she turns into the other kind of Soulsborne monster

[fresh flint]

Her face making me mad

[quiet flower]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-please-yes-peter-griffin-family-guy-gif-15638594

[fresh flint]

That bitxh tweaking

[late portal]

https://tenor.com/view/blair-soul-eater-pumpkins-gif-14677992

[burnt tree]

She turns into some freaky dragonic zombie or some shit

[quiet flower]

She the perfect type of crazy

[brittle hawk]

yeah wtaf

[burnt tree]

Thats how she looks in G1

[swift tree]

her ASD mask is slipping

[fresh flint]

[brittle hawk]

Who even is she anyways

[fresh flint]

She looks like an ayaya

[swift tree]

Gate 2 form, her mask falls off

[fresh flint]

LMAO the fuck

[quiet flower]

Which one of you bozos wrote this

[surreal gyro]

what did you do Bara why you pissed her off

[quiet flower]

[swift tree]

Primordials, like Ezrebet

[late portal]

when you tell her she only belongs in the kitchen

[quiet flower]

In Benji's stream people were saying "STILL WOULD"

[swift tree]

Kakul standing on the side lines

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855712193147043840/1424941350830346300/kakul_sayfon_meyhem1.gif

[swift tree]

Me with Thaemine and Zaika

tbh

[surreal gyro]

the fact that i have to wait until Dec 24th for the epilogue

is insane.

[quiet flower]

I'm surprised we didn't see something to do with Kakul tbh

[late portal]

yeah

they only mentioned him

[quiet flower]

Like him and Kharmine are still villains

Just not big bad villains

[swift tree]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/1pgh59i/changing_6_character_limit_isnt_the_solution/ also got to bait Reddit

[swift tree]

He's further down the line.
Kharmine and Thaemine are busy trying to figure out how to reform

[quiet flower]

Idk why people are obsessed with changing the gold earners

If you play 1 char, you don't need 6 gold earners unless you want to fomo the 18 raids

[swift tree]

or they're waiting for Kakul to sew enough chaos that Kharmine can devour Thaemine without losing his mind

[swift tree]

its more to do with how they feel like they're missing out on gold that's required to push their main.
... which is more an issue of having the gold almost exclusively tied to raids

Paradise helps, fucking hope the Una change is decent

5k from adventure isles was a joke

[quiet flower]

In KR, they still say most efficient parking spot is 1640

[swift tree]

actually playing the game should reward gold

[fathom cloak]

just buy gold

[quiet flower]

I've spent too much money on that F4 Currency Exchange

[swift tree]

Smilegate: "No you bought the gold from the wrong people" -> more collective punishment

[brittle hawk]

What the genuine fuck just happened

Mass increase went 40k + my selling price

Nouuuu

[swift tree]

just get it to drop from Paradise and you good

[fathom cloak]

buying from the "wrong people" is

[brittle hawk]

Stupid market shorting

[junior fern]

I’m okay with only having 6 gold earners as nowadays I have a hard even getting my main 6 done. But I wish any raid beyond main 6 got some sort of incentive

[quiet flower]

Biggest issue is always the people who'll either take it too far (like KR did initially when there was no limit) and bussers

[junior fern]

Yeah I know

[quiet flower]

Like you don't want to promote unhealthy gameplay, as people already stress out over getting their main 6 done

Imagine sweating out to do more

[junior fern]

Beyond the main 6 is character bound

So it’s only additional raids to progress non-providing characters

Which should alleviate fomo

especially at the games current state

where most barely wanna do their main 6 to begin with

case in point XD

[junior fern]

Oh also just make it so those characters also can’t drop books from raids

[quiet flower]

If there's no incentive, all it does it make bussers get more money

[junior fern]

Except bussers already CAN do this… lol

[quiet flower]

And alt roster bozos

[junior fern]

Bussers already can play a 7th or 8th character cause their main form of payment isn’t the raid itself

[quiet flower]

True

[junior fern]

Most bussers choose to 2c6 NM Mordum for example instead of 4c HM cause it pays the two more

[quiet flower]

Fuck it

Give us uncapped gold earning

[summer oasis]

facts

[junior fern]

Full anarchy route

I like it

[quiet flower]

Make it so RMT has no value

[swift magnet]

i like

[quiet flower]

Wonder if I should sell my lv 9 gem

Not like you need anything more than full 8s right

[cyan elk]

loa reddit is full of shit ngl

[slender sky]

ofc

95% of loa reddit doesnt play loa

[quiet flower]

You just found that out?

[cyan elk]

just saying it out

[vagrant cradle]

you should have sold them like a week or two ago, not when they dropped by like 300k already

[junior fern]

@swift tree So is the next lore drop more kazeros fighting?

[quiet flower]

They fluctuate all the time wdym

[cyan elk]

expecting UE5 on this loa winter is pure madness

[vagrant cradle]

not by 300k

[quiet flower]

Recent prices show it's going up

[slender sky]

expecting ue5 in general is madness but thats the same ppl that expect stuff like class change tickets and then call the showcase an L coz they didnt get what they want

[quiet flower]

Yesterday was selling at 1mil, now it's 1.2mil

[knotty vale]

should i be doing transcendence and elixer before the change or should i just ignore it, would i get progress on the ark passive which could potentialy be more expensive?

[quiet flower]

And one at 1.8

[late portal]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimpo-dandys-world-dandy-shrimp-spinning-gif-4957271158261211544

[swift tree]

It's the end of Kazeros, us using the Ark and the reveal of what happens

[swift tree]

they wont go UE5

that's just making a new game

[quiet flower]

That's what mobile is for

[late portal]

[quiet flower]

Wonder how many people can even run LA on UE5

[swift tree]

the fucking y/z axis is flipped, all the programming libraries are sorted differently

you'd have to redo the entire fucking game and reimport every asset

[cyan elk]

if they struggling on UE3 complaining about optimization blablabla, imagine on eu5

kek

[fathom cloak]

like 80% wont be able to and then cry about give us UE3 back

[quiet flower]

People thought upgrading to UE4 on Blade and Soul would fix the game

Damn bro doesn't even want newer titles

[swift tree]

they're not struggling, just EAC for our version fucking sucks

[fallow marlin]

Also forgetting the asscheeks amount of bugs

And if by chance they lose the player data while doing it

[swift tree]

well rewriting code comes with a fuck tonne of bug risks

especially if its check notes all major scrips and game system backend programming done since 2014

[fallow marlin]

Also I'm also guessing alot of their current devs are way more used to developing on their custom ue 3 engine

[steep forge]

patch notes when

[fallow marlin]

And changing to ue5 would rather damage the dev time

[swift tree]

someone changed a ui line to adjust the text size of traits in one MMO, and it fucked up weapons so that it only shows 1 of each bonus type (when you can slot multiple)

[fallow marlin]

Until everybody gets used to things

[swift tree]

yup

almost like its not fucking worth it for a game that currently functions

[fallow marlin]

Also

Money

[swift tree]

well no shit

[fallow marlin]

I really doubt ue5 will be that big of a game changer

For people to come back

[swift tree]

same reason why Daybreak didn't do their 50million dollar revamp projects for several MMOs

[swift tree]

gold income changes would do more 100%

[knotty vale]

^

[fallow marlin]

So far this loaon

Is more fixing the problems of season 2 and 3 slowly

Honestly it's fine

[swift tree]

It's a lot of small changes but nothing grandiose that people can point to and Soyjack over

save that for the content releases

[burnt tree]

i mean overall its good, but its nothing for the endgame players, since these are the ones i saw dislike it most

[swift tree]

surprising given THAT THERE WAS AN ACTUAL NERF TO ARK GRID THAT NO ONE FUCKING NOTICED

[fallow marlin]

I really love the quote the mabonogi dev said

[burnt tree]

[swift tree]

they gave you an extra source of core shards

[fallow marlin]

While they are in the process of turning the game into ue5

[burnt tree]

nani

the witch raid?

[swift tree]

gold shop gave you weekly legendary core box

[burnt tree]

oh those

yeah

[fallow marlin]

Its like rebuilding a building an inch sideways double the cost of making a new building

[swift tree]

yeah its nothing amazing but it's something

[burnt tree]

it also has lvl 7 gems so idk overall i like it

[swift tree]

yup

[burnt tree]

good for my alts

[burnt tree]

[swift tree]

dont forget with different tools and materials you used to make the first one with

[knotty vale]

are you actually hard locked to 1 legendary wealth rune or is there any way to get more?

[swift tree]

just 1

only 1 exists in the game rn

[burnt tree]

ew

[knotty vale]

ty

[burnt tree]

ew x3

[swift tree]

if you ever want to check what ones are in the game

[knotty vale]

yeah i saw that i just didnt believe it i guess

[swift tree]

rip

[knotty vale]

thought there would be a renewable source like galewinds or something

[burnt tree]

[swift tree]

Galewinds aren't renewable either, there's just been a shitload of guardians

used to have to farm each specific level for each skill rune

[vagrant cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/790520604029222922.webp?size=96&animated=true

[swift tree]

used to have to farm skill rune from each of these separately

you just get them from running guardians in general

[burnt tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1357017048483631177/1403259473023205487/ezgif-60d90e8b5adbe6.gif

oh the horror

twas so bad

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/kot-gif-8238624761352288147

[burnt tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351248381426532445/1431711175418314955/LE_SSERAFIM__SPAGHETTI_Sathona_2.gif

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/ramen-slurp-food-hungry-itadakimasu-gif-5351029315751120516

[burnt tree]

he wants male sorc, hes even crying saddies

[swift tree]

look, the LOA gays are rarely fed

[burnt tree]

[fathom cloak]

[swift tree]

[burnt tree]

So basically GK was a Lazenith that consumed the soul of a guardian

[swift tree]

yeh basically

so we also got our first Lazenith class

[burnt tree]

cool af playable lazenith

[slender sky]

im kinda bummed that she seems frontattack

[obtuse oyster]

Doa unless dragon form is op

[late portal]

dragon knight is scam

doesnt transform into actual wvyern like poe druid

refunding

[vagrant cradle]

the one time i get something good from a random engraving box

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1373292895511248976.webp?size=96

[late portal]

rich get richer

wait nvm its not tradable

scam game

[slender sky]

i mean it looks cool and all, but i cant stand frontattackers

[late portal]

https://tenor.com/view/tzuyu-gif-21938679

[covert remnant]

SH DI need some love

[cyan elk]

whats di

[covert remnant]

demonic impulse

[cyan elk]

dead iyi

ah

[late portal]

gems look nicer than books

[kind lotus]

This loa on was omega good for solo players like me

[late portal]

yeah more solo raids

[kind lotus]

Not only that but the gold shop to buy stuff with bound gold

Since u cant use bound gold on market its hard to get materials for leveling

Now its possible

[late portal]

yeah im surprised they didnt think of the bound gold shop when they first wanted to roll out bound gold

[kind lotus]

Our roadmap comes tomorrow?

[slender sky]

anytime between today and tuesday probably

[late portal]

doesnt rus come out like the day of krs

[kind lotus]

Cant wait for dragon knight on december like KR

[fathom cloak]

[slender sky]

im scouting the page every couple of hours

nothing yet

[quartz charm]

When is the update

In west

[late portal]

lmao

KR just got theirs

[fathom cloak]

[late portal]

let ags get to work tomorrow

silly

[sand marsh]

I missed it. Did the game finally die

[late portal]

yes

send me your gems

thanks

[sand marsh]

[late portal]

[burnt tree]

new raid boss is peak

[late portal]

witchboi

[kind lotus]

Witchboi LMFAO

[sand marsh]

Ew

[late portal]

after 7 years deathboi

[kind lotus]

4player shadow raid

[late portal]

graids will finally have health bars

[sand marsh]

Where is my hell thaemine

[late portal]

[burnt tree]

Also Saint quitting after the January patch

[late portal]

^

[burnt tree]

Also the 4man raid has new gear reset

[late portal]

[slender sky]

officially

[kind lotus]

Why

[slender sky]

dude quit like 2months ago

[sand marsh]

Sounds like this loaon didn't change anything then

[burnt tree]

ark grid was one of his main reasons

[burnt tree]

the LOA ON is good, but if ure an endgame player is more of the same

[late portal]

[sand marsh]

Ya i can see why he quit

[burnt tree]

the new 4man raid has some cool stuff

like shadow skills

no sidereals

[sand marsh]

How is it a W for new players

[burnt tree]

Solo Brel/Mordum

other nice changes

[sand marsh]

That's it?

Om

[burnt tree]

people can try the game without waiting for events

i mean it doesnt matter

[late portal]

new mokoko express to 1700

[burnt tree]

the community sucks, once they get 1700 they will quit

[late portal]

they added a p2w feature to it

[sand marsh]

Living in the express world still

[sand marsh]

Oh we're cooked wtf

[ember crag]

@sand marsh what's your take on LOA

[burnt tree]

Atleast we get the Argos on Valtan map

[kind lotus]

Solo Brel/Mordum
Bound Gold Shop for materials/accs/bracelets
Story rework and tier 3 removal
Super Mokoko Express up to 1700

[quartz charm]

Nerfing gold from raid

[burnt tree]

oh yeah gold shop has lvl 7 tier 4 gems and other stuff

[sand marsh]

I dont know all of it since I just woke up but from what im hearing, very mid.

[burnt tree]

deserved

[ember crag]

Huh

T3 removal?

What's that supposed to mean

[burnt tree]

they removed the gold cost

[ember crag]

Ah

[burnt tree]

from tier 3 honing up to 1620

[ember crag]

Nice

Hold on

that's really nice no?

[late portal]

graids will now be on a rotation deathboi

[burnt tree]

yes?

[late portal]

not the same graid

and next world boss will be once a week

[vagrant cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-cat-kitty-cool-hi-gif-18278845067688026866

[burnt tree]

yeah new world boss will feel world boss-y apparently

[ember crag]

The mat costs remained the same tho?

[sand marsh]

What insane technology. I totally didn't think of this 3 years ago

[burnt tree]

also ivory tower, thaemine etc give tier 4 mats if ure 1640+

[sand marsh]

We're so cooked om

[late portal]

[vagrant cradle]

insane

[burnt tree]

Also the new class is in fact a lazenith

[burnt tree]

playable lazenith

[late portal]

slap in the face to esther gamers

[ember crag]

Also found a really funny game

[late portal]

can convert esther back to normal

[burnt tree]

oh yeah esther cucks can now switch back to ancient

and vice versa

the most hilarious part of loa on ngl

[late portal]

+10 is being added

[burnt tree]

i mean ofc theyd add it

[sand marsh]

Lol

[burnt tree]

we get a new gear set

[slender sky]

huh

how is that a slap in the face?

[burnt tree]

if they dont add +10 they will complain +25 is better again

[covert remnant]

what do you guys do with all the green/blue astrogems?

[late portal]

best raid is back

but on valtan map

[burnt tree]

green i destroy

its not a raid

[swift tree]

Nothing massively overhauled but a lot of small changes that add up to make a better overal experience

[covert remnant]

i dont know what to do weekly for astrogems

[burnt tree]

youer basically killing each other while argos tries to push u all off

[sand marsh]

If green has +4 red or yellow and it doesn't hit, dismantle

[swift tree]

post-Kazeros has AC Odyssey side content

exploration/assassination arc

[burnt tree]

you could just call it assasins creed assasinations atp

every ac has it kinda

[sand marsh]

Didn't they say it would be more casual after kazeros