#lost-ark-discussions

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zenith canyon
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i mean u have to clear raid

brittle hawk
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unless THIS happens how is crafting even worth

zenith canyon
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u need setup for this in ur sh Susge

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u dont just create new SH and go crafting

fresh flint
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Don’t die. There. Problem solved.

sage tartan
wintry depot
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theres calculators for it

wise pasture
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game is trolling me today

full marlin
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how actively are LFG channels looked at, it seems almost none of the US-EST posts were replied to in the last 30 days... I've seen online Luterra and balthorr are the most populated, is that an accurate consensus?

mossy crest
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Does anyone have any idea which core set is better for Paladin support? Couldn't find any information anywhere between the +10% aura effectiveness, +40% buff t skill and the +8.5% atk power buff

full marlin
# tulip charm What lfg channel?

There's a Guild recruitment na-lfguild channel, just seemed like very few people got responses so i thought I'd be more proactive and ask where else i might be able to find a guild (maybe in-game is better?) but then idk which server to pick

swift magnet
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lol one of my comments in official got deleted
there is a thread about adding more titles to kaz raid
i said its dumb that there is an x10 g1 title but no title for clearing g2 in nm 10 times
deleted LOL

wind dagger
charred void
safe lark
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lol one of my comments in official got deleted
there is a thread about adding more titles to kaz raid
i said its dumb that there is an x10 g1 title but no title for clearing g2 in nm 10 times
deleted LOL

wintry depot
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lol one of my comments in official got deleted
there is a thread about adding more titles to kaz raid
i said its dumb that there is an x10 g1 title but no title for clearing g2 in nm 10 times
deleted LOL

swift magnet
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wa why you copy meme me xD

wintry depot
charred void
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3 lines of text = copy pasta

wise pasture
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wa why you copy meme me xD

swift magnet
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xD

wise pasture
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frijj cause we can

swift magnet
wind dagger
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lol one of my comments in official got deleted
there is a thread about adding more titles to kaz raid
i said its dumb that there is an x10 g1 title but no title for clearing g2 in nm 10 times
deleted LOL

uncut dirge
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grats

tulip charm
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How long does it take for you guys to recover from a flu?

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This feels like shit

wintry depot
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1 year

wise pasture
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🤔 you ever recover?

wind dagger
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Do we have

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Accs calculator?

wise pasture
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as in what, chance to get?

wind dagger
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No, the cp increase

wise pasture
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this one works, not perfect tho

wintry depot
zenith canyon
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its perm debuff

nova garden
vagrant cradle
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but significantly better after 2-3 days

lunar stag
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i wish story wise in the upcoming arc we have a good aspect of chaos to mitigate Kharmine and his demonic forces, like some nature dwellers or dragons we have think not all chaos is bad.

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Like how kazeros is twisted order

knotty wave
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what achievment are people asking for 2-3 lobbies?

devout nymph
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is this heaven for 2-2, is this hell for 2-3 or vairgrys

high fog
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got the dps through g2 hard mode

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honestly way more chill dpsing than playing support this gate

devout nymph
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both hidden

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depends if you supps are good

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its hella annoying to ´have mid sups

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die to patterns that oculd been easy dr

high fog
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its not even that, as dps you dont ahve to pay attention to teammates much

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so its a lot easier to just deal with stuff yourself

lunar stag
high fog
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much less focus needed

knotty wave
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yeah

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what achievmetns are from 2-3 lobbies

turbid oriole
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There's only 10k of you left. Y'all like an endangered species yet y'all gatekeep eachother

lunar stag
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chaos conq for reclear and probably like deathlike for 2-2/3 progging

turbid oriole
knotty wave
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right , thx

charred void
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jailed in a4nmg2 deadge

slender sky
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bro is communicating in captcha code

zenith canyon
tranquil ravine
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Reinstalled after a like 4 or 5 month break

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and i am so very lost again

charred void
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why would you do that

tranquil ravine
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😅

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Boredom

burnt tree
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lol

charred void
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that -5 months you spend on the game, you have to spend more time to get back into

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this game is cancer if you quit

tranquil ravine
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Tbf

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Im super casual

slender sky
zenith canyon
burnt tree
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yeah fayten is a doomer

slender sky
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in this channel youll most likely not get serious answers

tranquil ravine
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Oh ik, not quite looking for help atm

tranquil ravine
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Doing the most important thing rn

burnt tree
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well theres paradise, its very helpful if u get lucky Thonking_Much

late portal
burnt tree
late portal
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im not done

burnt tree
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its time for some marvel rivals Pray

late portal
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ew

burnt tree
late portal
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this doesnt look like lost ark

burnt tree
tulip charm
late portal
zenith canyon
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what a weird 4mon setup

late portal
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the top one isnt a monitor

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its my tv on the wall

zenith canyon
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ah thats why its in weird spot

burnt tree
late portal
burnt tree
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probably the streamer ngl

late portal
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you dont like big head streamer?

burnt tree
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nah hes overrated and i dont like his voice

late portal
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overrated? dude stays in his corner of twitch and not cause drama

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you must watch the faze boys

burnt tree
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i dont watch anyone lmao

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unless theres a reason to like drops etc

zenith canyon
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go watch johnpal Susge

late portal
zenith canyon
tranquil ravine
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I liked watching Bigheaded streamer when he was doing GTA fiveM races

zenith canyon
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gta KEKW

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where gta6 Madge

late portal
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i kind of miss the og days of gta rp

neon cedar
late portal
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im a multitasker

neon cedar
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A twitch stream on the side I pay 5% attention to is enough for me

zenith canyon
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wdym, u cant track 3 monitors?

slow saddle
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holy tabs

zenith canyon
late portal
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is that the famous gunslinger

burnt tree
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what gave it away Kapp

charred void
late portal
swift magnet
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we love bus lobbies

slow saddle
swift magnet
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lemme hide locked lobbies -.-

slow saddle
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and we cant be having smart ideas around SG/AGS

swift magnet
zenith canyon
charred void
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lets add this instead

swift magnet
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even more annoying than locked lobbies

slender sky
vagrant cradle
slow saddle
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i dont even bother with presets

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at most, just swapping cards and a few battle items for diff raids

devout nymph
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insane

zenith canyon
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insta top100

swift magnet
late portal
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what the

supple surge
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What

late portal
charred void
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controller next?

supple surge
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League is going poe2 route? KEKW

late portal
tulip charm
supple surge
devout nymph
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should probably farm mroe awk crits for better time but yes

burnt tree
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so the theme of that probably exists already

supple surge
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We love Crit 🎣

neon cedar
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My first rat to break 1400

neon cedar
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Wtf a 1755 Valk just joined my NM Brel

zenith canyon
supple surge
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What's their CP? Susge

neon cedar
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1755 and they run single highs?!?

neon cedar
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Maybe because they swapped to DPS. UwU says 3600 support

zenith canyon
runic siren
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anyone know what each tier of frontier nerfs are?

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is it 5% hp and 5% boss dmg reduction per tier?

neon cedar
runic siren
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tyty

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those numbers are both HP and boss dmg right?

neon cedar
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Uhhh hp at least

runic siren
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so after full frontier it's -20%hp and boss does -20% dmg

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ok

bitter inlet
zenith canyon
wintry depot
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can i sleep for 2 weeks and wake up when its time to hone

slender sky
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no

wintry depot
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:(

supple surge
swift magnet
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we like

tulip charm
neon cedar
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"we"

wintry depot
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Im tired

sand marsh
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can i pls win....

neon cedar
supple surge
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Who's this "We" business? Susge

swift magnet
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i like 😛

swift magnet
supple surge
mortal burrow
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that was around 19 months ago

charred void
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and na still bad FeelsGladMan

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can't even connect to the game

nova garden
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None of my friends are having issues

vagrant cradle
# swift magnet ALOOO

that reminds me that I should do my cubes instead of letting them stack until I have over 100 to do

wise pasture
tulip charm
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I felt like I was a vagris player

wise pasture
vagrant cradle
swift magnet
summer oasis
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yo

quaint wasp
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needed to reach 30 mil

swift magnet
quartz turret
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exchange for hell tickets

swift magnet
vagrant cradle
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yeah I'm not lucky enough with hell keys ever since they added the legacy chests

quaint wasp
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even at current gem prices

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that's how insanely powerful hell is

swift magnet
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maybe yes but theoretical math vs practical luck in hell in my case i say no

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to me gems worth more than 1 hell key

quaint wasp
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Susge 1 cube is like

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3k?

swift magnet
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no i mean

quaint wasp
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or something

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of gems

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can't trade the lava/glacier breaths

swift magnet
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most of the times i only get stuff i dont need in hell

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so exchanging cube tickets is a loss in ym case

swift magnet
robust acorn
quaint wasp
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law of averages, I hit bound gold in nether 60 and printed

robust acorn
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it only convert t4 ones

quaint wasp
swift magnet
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95% of my hell ekys are dying the first 2 jumps

robust acorn
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Weirdga so like

quaint wasp
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was going by the recent excel calc

robust acorn
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might as well get bound gold

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for lower keys

quaint wasp
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eh the purpose of lower keys is to shove

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those alts

swift magnet
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so like i said to me the experience its not worth it. but other persons may be luckier with hell

quaint wasp
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to the next breakpoint

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when you have an army of 1680 or 1700

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printing gems

robust acorn
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i only have 2 char rn
1690 and 1670
cant wait for des express wahoo

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dunno if i get reflux sorc or db

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realistically is 3 proper char good enuff tbh for earning

eager stump
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I haven't touched on my powerpass after hitting like 1597

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are there things I can do before the express event?

neon cedar
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@wintry depot It looks good. I wish I could due the stripe on the pants

quaint wasp
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at least books are

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u can prob get away with 3, park lower two at 1680, raise main as high as you can go

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issue is you need to be decently geared to get past g0 now

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I'd say 1400

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maaaaaaybe 1300 but you can jail and play pf simulator

swift tree
eager stump
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is it ok to focus everything on one mainin this game

swift tree
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Yes

eager stump
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or are there some legion systems

swift tree
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Just don’t fomo

eager stump
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im tryin to get back to my powerpass characters now that i have a new pc

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Is the express event in dec only appliable to one character?

swift tree
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If you try to “efficiency” run Lost Ark you’ll either feel permanently behind or the need to make a dozen accounts to “game” the system.
Which means either sweat, burnout or embrace the meandering

eager stump
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dozen accounts for what?

swift tree
swift tree
eager stump
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oh like collect gold and send to main?

swift tree
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yes

eager stump
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i only focus on playing 1 max 2 charac

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wana focus on my main first

swift tree
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That’s fine

eager stump
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should I apply the express on my current powerpass at 1597?

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or on the new powerpass that I can make during the event

tulip charm
swift tree
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Express and Powerpass are separate things so yes you can apply them to the same character

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That’s just something you’ll feel out for yourself

tulip charm
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Most lost ark players would have made 36 alts 3 rosters then complain lost ark doesn’t respect your time

neon cedar
eager stump
slender sky
wintry depot
eager stump
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i won't be able to party play with ppl until like 1620 or 1640 anyways right?

swift tree
neon cedar
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Need more free ones

swift tree
quaint wasp
swift tree
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if you powerpassed to 1585 and have full Akkan (1525 base) gear then you don’t have much more that’s needed.
Maybe see if you can get to 1600 and finish North Kurzan? So that’s out of the way.

quaint wasp
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like with 1 1680 you'd make like what, 200k? a week

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that's not even half a grudge

wintry depot
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Can you not tell people to make alts

quaint wasp
wintry depot
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Especially new or returnees

swift tree
wintry depot
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And dont talk about fucking relic books to them...

quaint wasp
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too scary? Sadge

swift tree
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No, just unnecessary

swift tree
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It’s like asking a Tier 3 player to start strategising about Ark Grid

neon cedar
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Like telling a child running a 50 foot race to worry about a 10k marathon

quaint wasp
swift tree
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Or asking someone who just made an account to worry about cards

charred void
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new players shoulve just bought fish for 5g 3 years ago

swift tree
quaint wasp
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had to get ahead of the LWC gatekeep

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then LOS

charred void
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when did you get lwc

quaint wasp
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uh March or April 2022

swift tree
charred void
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lwc 30 1 month into the game?

quaint wasp
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definitely before Argos forgot when exactly that was

swift tree
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I did that shit during June/July

vagrant cradle
swift tree
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Was doing Vykas w/ Forest of Giants

swift tree
quaint wasp
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think it was lwc 12

vagrant cradle
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idk what to tell you the keys arent hitting

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so im not trading my cubes

quaint wasp
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you never need the best of anything in this game

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but you do need enough to get past g0

swift tree
neon cedar
swift tree
neon cedar
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I would have done some later

charred void
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i had my lwc30 feb 23 and i'm pretty sure thats one of the earliest f2p

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well besides char slots to run dungeons

swift tree
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Took the 2nd frog event for me to finish Kharmine

neon cedar
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2022?

charred void
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23

neon cedar
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OKay, that makes sense

charred void
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exactly 1 year

swift tree
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So yeah Feb 23 as well

quaint wasp
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feb 23 2022 lwc 30 would have been demonic

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but no I was march or april lwc 12

neon cedar
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I dont have pics of that from that long ago

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Just this one

quaint wasp
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not lwc 30

undone summitBOT
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... @charred void. Seriously. You've already given @neon cedar enough reputation. I can only process so much love for one user.

charred void
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desuboyo

neon cedar
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Rip long hair desuboyo

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Wow, look at this lil guy

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How far I've come

tulip charm
swift tree
modern hatch
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grinding crit RNG in paradise is shit

neon cedar
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Char prog

tulip charm
vagrant cradle
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i still have yet to get a single good thing from this event

robust acorn
quaint wasp
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you get two raid upgrades

robust acorn
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well ye

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am saying 4-6 char

quaint wasp
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ye 4-6 is out of reach, you just wait for express to add one

robust acorn
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3rd gonna be express on dec

quaint wasp
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you can also consider doing what arna did

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and make same class alts

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with the caveat that you actually like

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the class

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like

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really

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LOVE the class

robust acorn
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it is effective for sure but i really dont like playing same class twice a week

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def no supp tho

quaint wasp
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ye its only for times when

robust acorn
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i aint learning brand uptime

quaint wasp
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you finish a raid on a char and go

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I wish I could do it again

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then you make a same class alt

robust acorn
quaint wasp
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because its hyper efficient

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sharing books and gems

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like an endgame player can be saving super conservatively 5 mil gold per char with a same class alt

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in reality probably closer to 10

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but is 100% not worth

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if you don't find it fun

robust acorn
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friend of mine have full db roster and another roster with varied class
he gonna yeet db one cause burnt out

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addiction

swift tree
robust acorn
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mfw he is doctor (like me) and still have that time and energy

swift tree
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Did the random side quest in North Vern that gives you the Ternak card for demon damage

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Now you’ll get it by just doing dailies

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Chaos cards is 1000x better

kind lotus
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Senna toppu watafakku

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Noobu

eager stump
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any beginner help channels or guilds?

swift tree
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?quickstart

tawny gateBOT
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Quickstart Info NOTED

So you just powerpassed?

  1. Visit Lostark.nexus to find your class guide. Using that guide set up...
  2. Skills (K Menu)
  3. Skill Runes
  4. Engravings (P - Engraving tab)
  5. Ark Passive (P menu - Ark Passive in bottom left)
  6. Gems (Refacet for free at Gem NPC)
  7. Dismantle settings here

  1. Complete Arkesia Tour (Icon Beside Minimap)
  2. Use Tour rewards (skill points & runes) to improve on your class build
  3. Collect & Read Engraving books (20 Yellow Legendary books x5 engravings)
    Engraving books can be obtained various ways through many various NPC exchanges, event shops & event handouts

The Arkesia Tour will have you complete a number of simple quests and reward you with a large amount of horizontal & collectable completion including more skill points & addition skill runes to help your build.

If a Mokoko Express is ongoing, activate it from an icon beside your minimap. It will provide free items to help with the process above as well as provide things like honing support to make progression easer. There is only 1 Mokoko Express per region so choose your character carefully!

Congrats, you now have a functional build to start trying activities like daily Chaos Dungeons, Guardians & weekly Solo Raids.
For any questions you can visit: #lost-ark-help Check the pinned comments!
Pick up class roles from id:customize to get access to class specific channels and info.
Use command /class name to link any class guide from Lostark.nexus. (Example, /slayer)
You can use the ?guides command for a variety of video & written guides.

kind oriole
viscid sand
flint trench
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Does Perfect Suppression out DPS Demonic Impulse? Thinking of swapping because bored of DI

wind dagger
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Give me gems

neon cedar
mortal burrow
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learning armoche was actually fun and it was really rewarding to do. kaz just gives me nightmares tho thinking about hm g2

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except that fucking one JG pattern pre guard mech where

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he slams down his thingy and sweeps

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that shit fucking sometimes clips me for no reason even though im not in the jg range

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but ye... @neon cedar i think id rather go quit and main maplestory than do kaz g2 hm

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it just aint worth my time rn...

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O btw how's your breaker doing?

neon cedar
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HM prog was reasonable for act 4 but even still I don't have it in me to slog these early weeks in it

wind dagger
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Ye

neon cedar
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I got my clear & titles and I'm happy. I did NM instead this week and it was crazy free

mortal burrow
neon cedar
mortal burrow
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after like 20 hours of progging

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b/c some people do literally ZDPS

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like im talking 100m dps deadge

neon cedar
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Breaker is fine in act 4. Lots of spinning but you learn that stuff eventually. Kazeros was awful dogshit for front attack. Even on nm

mortal burrow
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o btw with ark grid if u get bk thingies are ou going to try it out ?

neon cedar
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Nope. I have zero interest in BK

mortal burrow
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ah

neon cedar
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I won't ever play it

mortal burrow
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my friend got the lightning thingy for reflux at relic

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and he's nejoying it

neon cedar
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I've only gotten boring generic cores atm

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Crit damage and another to make skill atronger

mortal burrow
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my db has gotten

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sup blue cores only..

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and the stupid fatal wave core..

warped turtle
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guys does anyone know how to get the relic selector achievment in nm kaz?
like how do we even build his meter enough without the triple g-patter

mortal burrow
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it's the half meter mech

warped turtle
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ok do we just like hold his bar?

slender sky
warped turtle
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like stop dpssing til he gets full meter?

mortal burrow
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i would not push him to x900

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b/c that's when he does the puddle mech and if you're alone you might not sruvive

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but i think it's fine as long as you dont push him to

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next phase (?)

warped turtle
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👍 tysm will try

mortal burrow
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but i had everyone alive for jg 3x pattern

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then had them die after

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and i soloed full meter mech as a sup with CE

tulip charm
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3.5m per lv10 now, but only 3 pages

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vs 4mil+ per lv10, 2 pages, 2 weeks ago

vagrant cradle
viscid sand
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i guess the chaos conquerors have tapped out for tfm

vagrant cradle
quiet flower
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So close to the perfect numbers

quiet flower
wise pasture
wind dagger
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?

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Susge anyone euc quitting soon? may use yourgems for good charity

broken lava
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why not you quitting and giving me your gems?

wind dagger
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im not quitting

swift magnet
wind dagger
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is that act 4?

swift magnet
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chaos gate xD

cinder mango
uncut dirge
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out of 48 of the lucky chests we get from dailies i only got 2 surprise chests

wind dagger
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you got rng'd

uncut dirge
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lmao

devout nymph
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and its an 8cost one, even though for chaos

uncut dirge
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only initially when you want to get your cores going

swift magnet
uncut dirge
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like next week still, but after that no

swift magnet
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so that would just be wasting gold for me ^^

uncut dirge
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8 willpower for 30k is way better deal

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lets check leader

swift magnet
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uuuh 10 willpower blue gem. ig dismantle

uncut dirge
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curious

uncut dirge
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fuse them

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with 2x 8 cost greens

devout nymph
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the issue is how often do you realistically get cutable order gems

swift magnet
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oh

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i ahve green on autodismantle xD

devout nymph
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uhm

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hes cooked

uncut dirge
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then take it off

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and save them

swift magnet
uncut dirge
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until you can fuse

devout nymph
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tbf its not THAT cooked

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just very slow slow ark grid in that case

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you wanna hold on 8cost greens, to fuse the bad blue/purples

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even on alts

swift magnet
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it's rng anyways. i dont really care to get it fast. cuz i have no gold anyways xD

devout nymph
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since they might become rosterbound

wind dagger
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there 2 players

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those save gold

swift magnet
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then i turn it off

wind dagger
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those who it

devout nymph
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either you were the people who got 40set elixir within the first month

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or you didnt care

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similiar difference

swift magnet
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ppl who watched me cutting elixirs said i need to go to church

uncut dirge
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went into behemoth

devout nymph
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i was cutting 3x 40set with purple elixirs, for me its w/e

uncut dirge
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on my 1740 sorc

swift magnet
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cuz i def pissed off someone to be that unlucky xD

uncut dirge
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we wiped in G1

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lmao

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okay we didn't wipe

devout nymph
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its not that ark grid isnt expensive

uncut dirge
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apparently it doesn't wipe when everyone dies in behemoth

devout nymph
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its that the options at 1730+ are so shit its about the same

swift magnet
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kr has astro gem storage right?

devout nymph
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like you can spend around 1mill on armors and get 1%ish

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or you can cope on arkgrid

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and which point you are comparing like what, 20 purple gems to armor upgrade over the long term

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progression after 1730 is cooked anyways

quaint wasp
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saving my gold

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gimme dec patch already

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I'm using the wrong elixir set

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cause I cbf to cut

uncut dirge
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wait so once you get all the bonus chests from the event

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you can just buy a single lucky box per week?

swift magnet
devout nymph
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yeah its not even a arktoberfestchest

#

its just a shitty box

uncut dirge
#

Leaf No One Behind gonna be one of the rarest titles because there are no mokokos

surreal gyro
#

the event is out until Ferbruary you think no Mokokos will come lel

quiet flower
wind dagger
#

semi quit doesnt exist

quiet flower
#

Sure it does

quiet flower
#

You don't play as much but still play? Thinkge

#

Like going from 10 hours down to 2

#

Quit progging just to do raids on lower difficulty and be done

wind dagger
faint grove
#

Kaz hm definitely a toll on peoples mental

wind dagger
#

raid is not designed for 1730 with average books gear...

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1710 to 1730 is just bs fomo swiping

brittle hawk
#

1730 is above average

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And as such people at that ilvl have above average gear

wise pasture
surreal gyro
#

the thing is that people know half the fight from 4-2 onwards

wise pasture
surreal gyro
#

and they think that because they cant clear the fight is unfair

#

there are people doing 180-200m DPS on 4-2/4-3 and believe they are ready to clear with 120secs INCAP

bleak zinc
slender sky
wise pasture
#

random card

quiet flower
#

Not for DPS, but for dying like c'mon

fresh flint
late portal
quiet flower
#

Nice RMT nodders

late portal
wind dagger
#

gub gold

late portal
#

I am still poorge

#

I am only rich when I see green gold

sand marsh
#

gub gold

late portal
#

almost the same

surreal gyro
quiet flower
fresh flint
surreal gyro
#

im honestly done with statics

#

theyre so toxic

#

ive honestly met way more genuine people while pugging Kazzy HM

quiet flower
#

Just because the e-girl Bard started complaining about me dying and the lead decided to kick me

#

Even though she was so shit for the first 20 hours of prog

#

Oh well

surreal gyro
#

ye i almost quit last month as well due to static drama

#

so i feel you

#

and i decided to not play the game for a static

#

statics are fun for homework

#

when a new raid comes out it's usually 80% chance to disband 20% to keep playing, because what brought you together is not what will keep you together

fresh flint
#

Atp i would just quit the static

surreal gyro
#

statics are good only if they work

#

if they dont work they actually do more harm than good

#

that's why they all explode during progs

#

cause not everyone is at the same level and people get an ego check when they feel ready to clear and the rest of the party doesnt, so this creates tension and people leave

sand marsh
surreal gyro
#

exactly and its not just skill level

#

in my previous static, we had no lifer grinders, whales

sand marsh
#

main reason why statics never worked for me. always felt held back.

surreal gyro
#

and F2P people

#

the gap was insane

#

if you feel held back then you dont go for statics in general

wise pasture
#

Susge 70 cp difference there btw

sand marsh
#

yeah but if i had a static where people were just as serious about clearing and the same skill level, it'd be pretty great

#

one can only dream

surreal gyro
#

its still not consistent

#

cause you might find a good group for lets say Mordum

#

you clear you stick together but in Kazeros it's not the same

sand marsh
#

skill doesn't typically detoriate. there's diminshing returns for some people though ig

surreal gyro
#

kazeros is a weird one because it's also a very mentally draining fight

sand marsh
#

yeah

surreal gyro
#

given that you need to play 15mins before getting to 2-2/2-3

sand marsh
#

I like those kind of fights though. If it was up to me therer'd be a 2-4 om

#

I enjoy very long fights

surreal gyro
#

long fights are good and they also get shorter over time with people geraring up and becoming better

sand marsh
#

yeah you feel the uh

surreal gyro
#

but too much yapping and complaining until it happens

sand marsh
#

progression id say

surreal gyro
#

in KR they dont even see desert

sand marsh
#

xdd

surreal gyro
#

they kill 4-1 during clashes

sand marsh
#

Almost like that in some pug groups. by the JG into desert the boss is at like 100 bars

#

but those are giga pumpers

#

99% of groups aint like that

wind dagger
surreal gyro
#

eventually most people will pull 400+ dps

#

in 4-1

#

ark grid is insane dmg gain + frontier

sand marsh
#

yeah the bar will be raised.

surreal gyro
#

and 2-2 / 2-3 is u have at least 300m dps you are fine you clear very comfortably

sand marsh
#

man i wonder if im able to fit 2-1 through 2-3 in a single video without it being super long

#

i'd have to pull off some magic to make that happen

#

zzzzzzzz

wind dagger
surreal gyro
#

at least 30mins xd

sand marsh
#

yeah my goal is sub 25mins

#

While also having every pattern/mechanic

wind dagger
sand marsh
#

if you really think about it though, the fight isn't that long in terms of explanation

#

at least in my eyes

#

just gotta explain it right

surreal gyro
#

it has too many basic patterns , but a lot of them are pretty similar

#

but a lot of people call the fight unfair and think this is a whale fight , but it's not

sand marsh
#

maybe TFM speedrun leaderboard is a whale fight

#

not hard mode though xdd

surreal gyro
#

its no secret that the more DPS you do the better your prog will be , bu t this will be the case forever

#

TFM is whale bait IMO

#

i saw the russians play it

#

400+ DPS in 2-2 and barely cleared

sand marsh
#

i think the speedrun leaderboards are, but not TFM

sand marsh
surreal gyro
#

idk i think i was watching some RU guy playing reflux he was doing 400-410 dps and they were so tight with the berserk in TFM

sand marsh
#

shockingly enough, the min dps for TFM isn't even that high

surreal gyro
#

well maybe idk xD

quiet flower
sand marsh
#

380mil is the bare minimum before sidereals

fresh flint
#

@swift tree ty for allowing me to rope you in

swift tree
surreal gyro
#

i joined my static at brel 2.0 release, we cleared, barely made it through the mordum prog and then we disbanded during Strike raid, cause some people wanted 6x1720s to farm

sand marsh
fresh flint
#

Sure, ill honor you

surreal gyro
#

ikr

#

and i had already pushed 2 alts at 1720 all these millions wasted

#

and then they disband

#

cause i pushed for the static

swift tree
sand marsh
#

the same people who pushed x6 1720s are the same people who have a main that is terribly invested

#

and calls hm/tfm whale bait

sand marsh
#

like brother, you honed x6 1720s....

wind dagger
#

holy shit

surreal gyro
#

ofc, 1700-1720 was about 2 mil per character

sand marsh
#

yeah dump all that into your main instead and you'd look really good and pump

#

easily 3-3.5k+ cp

wind dagger
#

tbh I think one high main and 5x 1700 is the sweet spot until you then use everything from paradise

swift tree
surreal gyro
#

yes and then i quit cause i was so mad this happened for 1 month and didnt farm relic books

#

and now im at 2.9k CP XD

sand marsh
#

But I refuse to put any gold into alts outside paradise

surreal gyro
#

no they wanted to do strike raid HM x6

sand marsh
#

At least until my gems are full 10s

surreal gyro
#

to farm the books

sand marsh
#

the ROI is not there....

wind dagger
surreal gyro
#

the idea was to spend the money now to raise alts and then make it back with HM strike raid gains

#

ofc not

wind dagger
#

XD

#

1700 would be better

#

then hone to 1710 kazeros

sand marsh
#

it didn't wokr out for anyone unless you got 500k multiple times a week

surreal gyro
#

exactly

sand marsh
#

and even then

#

maybe not enough ROI

surreal gyro
#

its still not worth

swift tree
#

doing Kazeros HM 6x a week is on its own insane

wind dagger
#

there players like that....

sand marsh
surreal gyro
#

after ark grid and after frontier maybe it will work but i dont think that u can clear HM with an alt

sand marsh
#

If it was up to me i'd clone my main 5 more times and do it 6 times a week, ignoring everything else.

wind dagger
swift tree
surreal gyro
#

i mean at some point people will learn the patterns

#

we have revives

#

i dont see how this will be such a jail

sand marsh
wind dagger
#

did ags give a reason why we are not following kr

wind dagger
#

with the thaemine extreme variant

#

before kazeros

surreal gyro
#

cause there was no time

sand marsh
surreal gyro
#

so they pushed it to 2026

sand marsh
#

yeah no time

fresh flint
#

maybe if they didnt suck dick at planning

sand marsh
#

it was either extreme thaemine then kazeros in Jan

#

or Kazeros in november, extreme thaemine 2026

surreal gyro
#

Yeah and tbf more people would complain about KAzeros in 2026

sand marsh
#

^^

surreal gyro
#

cause the game was super tedious before kazeros

swift tree
#

Thaemine Extreme was to push Korea back so that NA/RU could catch up for a global release for the December Update

surreal gyro
#

i think its better as it is now

fresh flint
#

am a tru pirat

surreal gyro
#

i only care about LOAON

swift tree
#

Smilegate also needed better time to work on Kazeros

surreal gyro
#

things are going to be super fragile this time around

#

we say this every year, but i do think this is a make or break loaon

wind dagger
#

i hope so

#

when is loaon

#

saturday?

fresh flint
#

dec 7

surreal gyro
#

Sunday

#

on my bday T_T

wind dagger
#

ah

swift tree
surreal gyro
#

^ exactly

#

and they need to get it right

swift tree
sand marsh
#

cope that the AI npc flex raid comes out with loaon

#

that in itself is game changing

surreal gyro
#

there are so many things they can do

#

but theres alwyas something going on with the execution

wind dagger
#

wish they could help rosters

zealous lintel
#

LOA-ON will make or break it for the left playerbase

swift tree
zealous lintel
#

noone is going to join for a longer journey who didnt touch LOA yet

sand marsh
swift tree
zealous lintel
#

you would need to restructure the game from the ground up

wind dagger
#

i wanna hone this char to 1700, but gold though...would cost me million probably

broken lava
quiet flower
#

Average Redditer: I WANT ALL THE REWARDS FOR JUST ENTERING THE RAID

zealous lintel
surreal gyro
#

For me best loa with what we know so far would be :

  1. Nerf karma cost
  2. Increase Relic book / Gem aqcuisition
  3. Make higher quality astrogems more obrainable with the new content in 2026
  4. Dont introduce another system
  5. Focus on exploration , building up immersion and horizontal stuff

and we will be good

quiet flower
surreal gyro
#

xDDDD

#

it has but also has the need for those

#

i mean i dont know if it has

#

cause we had frog + strike before

quiet flower
#

And #5 they're working on

swift tree
wind dagger
#

i dont have full relic books

#

im a newb

sand marsh
quiet flower
#

I'm sure glad I invested in 20/20 Stablized Status for 200k just to push more DPS in the static

broken lava
quiet flower
surreal gyro
sand marsh
swift tree
wind dagger
#

i woiuldnt mind doing cubes

#

but man

#

its sucks

swift tree
#

Shadow Raids aren't even hitting Korea until mid next year

surreal gyro
#

nah there shud be something coming this year for KR

#

Kazeros came out in August

surreal gyro
#

yes

#

what picture

broken lava
#

yeah the map expension, what else would they need to get

wind dagger
quiet flower
#

Average 1730 player atm

#

On my GS Worry

broken lava
#

I mean with Ark grid out, Relic books aren't that needed anymore

surreal gyro
#

depends on what requirements the new contnet will bring xD

#

thats me on my main barely have anything done

broken lava
#

blud is talking about new content as if it would come soon

swift tree
surreal gyro
#

ofc it's coming soon

surreal gyro
#

Sacria

#

yeye

sand marsh
#

Yeah it's likely coming 1 week after loaon

#

this has always been the trend

#

or a few days after

swift tree
surreal gyro
#

yes but there will be something to gain from those

sand marsh
#

Give me a sacria-themed raid

wind dagger
sand marsh
#

om, would be sick

surreal gyro
#

maybe horizontal but u will get something

swift tree
#

Cores

surreal gyro
#

an abyssal dungeon

#

something

swift tree
#

Yeah, probably an abyssal

sand marsh
#

The next progression system must be a gear reset at this point.

surreal gyro
#

idm abyssals honestly T_T

sand marsh
#

There's no way it isn't.

swift tree
#

not a Shadow Raid though, and if at all, it's one like Echidna- a prologue one

surreal gyro
#

i dont think they will do another reset

broken lava
#

LOA ON gets me always hyped, just don't know if I should sleep early to catch it or pull an allnighter xdd

sand marsh
swift tree
surreal gyro
#

the progression focus was the gear reset

broken lava
#

yeah EU get's ffcked

wind dagger
fresh flint
#

good

#

fk yall

wind dagger
sand marsh
surreal gyro
#

yes but at the end of thaemine

sand marsh
#

They cannot expect us to hone even further with 1% honing rates lol

surreal gyro
#

everything was dirt cheap

swift tree
#

I mean the amount of times I've seen EU complain about a long maintenance when they literally extend past midnight for me...

#

EU can get fucked kek

sand marsh
#

That's diabolical

fresh flint
#

What yall get for talking all that shit

surreal gyro
#

remember thaemine era, how cheap everything was gems books

#

cause aquicision of gems and books was very good

#

and most people were done with their honing

sand marsh
#

It's just not realistic.

wind dagger
#

1%

#

pls not

#

...

#

i can abrely hone

surreal gyro
#

yes but we shud see this from a cost/gold ratio

wind dagger
#

+22 weapon

surreal gyro
#

in end T3 we didnt have anything else to work on

swift tree
#

surely this new ocean comes with an adventure isle revamp Copege

surreal gyro
#

this time we have so MANY things

#

Gems, books, ark grid

#

theres no way they do a reset

quiet flower
#

Just release Dragon Knight nodders

#

New BDO class comes out in a week I think

swift tree
sand marsh
#

Then in that context, the item level for the next raid should not be incremental from Kazeros. It should stay at 1700/1710 and 1730.

#

If it increases with no gear reset, that is disgusting lmao

surreal gyro
surreal gyro
quiet flower
#

Saviour

#

Or whatever

wind dagger
#

kazeros hm being 1730

#

is such bs

sand marsh
#

And I feel the next raid will be exactly that.

#

I prefer gear resets over another progression system.

#

It's simple and isn't RNG based.

swift tree
surreal gyro
#

they might change raid requirements to CP instead of Ilvl

#

with CP added ilvl shouldnt be deciding your raid entry

sand marsh
broken lava
#

I mean we will prolly get some kinda of reset but it won't come right after LOA ON maybe near summer when the next big raid comes out.

surreal gyro
#

yes a lot of MMOs do it

wind dagger
sand marsh
#

My prediction is that the next raid is attached to a gear reset. Another progression system would be very ass.

surreal gyro
#

i think for this year they should focus on toning down the intense progression shackles and allowing people to catch up while doing more horizontal stuff, at least for 6 months it will be enough

swift tree
broken lava
#

we will prolly get more ADV honing before a reset

swift tree
#

I'm not joking...

#

The guy who developed paradise for CN/NA/EU was one of the 3 bozos- the one that made horizontal content

surreal gyro
#

yeye i know

swift tree
#

same crazy person that made Metus Island, made Paradise

wind dagger
#

metus

surreal gyro
#

i think that 2025 was a good year for Lost ark overall

wind dagger
#

hellnah

surreal gyro
#

revives, paradise

wind dagger
#

never done metus

#

will never do it

surreal gyro
#

metus is fun

#

DO IT

swift tree
#

I got wedged in a door framed and stuck in the pathing guard

surreal gyro
#

i had a friend start playing for the firtst time a fiew months ago and he was streaming going over all of the islands and i HAD FORGOTTEN how fun some of them were

broken lava
#

we will get some more soon

surreal gyro
#

every new region they have done always felt mroe and more shallow

#

they are pretty

#

but idk something is missing

brittle hawk
#

wtf

#

the newest regions are wayyyyy better

#

than the old ones

surreal gyro
#

in terms of aesthetics?

zealous lintel
broken lava
#

well most of the new regions are basically just "we prepare for war"

surreal gyro
#

I liked rimeria a lot

#

its just that there is nothing to do after you finish it

wind dagger
#

we forgot

#

about italy

sand marsh
wind dagger
broken lava
wind dagger
#

pleccia

#

useless continent

#

island*

surreal gyro
#

very good story tho

#

T_T

brittle hawk
fresh flint
sand marsh
#

Armen sad e-boy arc.

#

Very good

wind dagger
#

FUCK

#

I forgot to get guardian luen card

surreal gyro
#

did you guys pray to armens mom for 100 days?

brittle hawk
#

hello i want dih

wind dagger
#

yesterdasy

sand marsh
fresh flint
surreal gyro
#

fkin casuals

fresh flint
#

fk that dead hoe

surreal gyro
#

😮

fresh flint
#

she dont need my prayers

sand marsh
#

woah

brittle hawk
#

om

broken lava
#

I did back than when it came out

#

gosh has it been a long time since than