lost-ark-discussions

[uncut dirge]

the entire difficulty of the raid

is below 60 bars

but obviously you wouldn't know that if you overgear it massively

[midnight marlin]

theres like 4 patterns in 60

and they are major telegraphed

[uncut dirge]

since when does base azena do 100+ billion damage

[tulip charm]

the final enhanced phase is where people start to fall apart

1 revive is usually used here, the problem is careless players already died before this

[sand marsh]

Azena does massive % of overall raid damage. Similar to Brel HM.

[tulip charm]

ive never seen so many screenshots at g2h a4 mvp screen with "last man standing"

[sand marsh]

Specifically, she does about 72+ bil damage with +1 cast

[queen grail]

From top 10% to this.

Bomba Crit into T crit

And 3min before rank is "locked" oh talk about timing.

@neon cedar I kept the rank

5 Key's.

[neon cedar]

🐳

[queen grail]

Think I got 4 out of 16 char's into Top 100.

25% not to bad.

[quaint wasp]

thought I had an extra hour

why tf does it say 2am to 6am

[queen grail]

Nope, ranked locked at 07:00 server

[quaint wasp]

its 1am

[queen grail]

Wait, Is ranked locked in NA too now?

[quaint wasp]

yeah

locked an hour earlier than

[queen grail]

Oh, so It locks same time EU/NA

[quaint wasp]

they said on the system

actually trolled

was going to bang out my paradise]

[queen grail]

[queen grail]

You had some that could get better rank?

[quaint wasp]

many

just no time to run so

procrastinated to last moment

business trip cooked me

wasn't able to prog kaz either

[queen grail]

I lost out on a bit of day's too, so my kaz prog was, "To 🏜️ on hard".

But I'm 100% Confident I can get to 2-2 as long as the other 7 in the group also play's well

Gotta get into a damn G2-1 Reclear 2-2 Prog and just tell em I'm good

[quaint wasp]

no title = gatekept after reset

you think those 2-1 reclear 2-2 prog lobbies

are actually that?

they're gonna be

7 imposters

fresh progging

and i'll be one of them

[queen grail]

I have, erm normal clear Kaz so, surely.

[queen grail]

xdd

I mean, I just want to get into 2-2 get the title, finish all other raid's in a flurry, prog 2-2/2-3 Friday > Sunday.

And then die inside If i can't clear.

Low key, 2-1, Is not that hard when you've been there for hours.

[quaint wasp]

surely monarch is good enough title

to not get gatekept

[queen grail]

And with decent dps you legit jump from mech to mech and the mech's are mostly braindead or can be 🧀'd with well played Sup Awakening & Stacking on spots.

[ebon snow]

i did an impostor run

[queen grail]

Gatekeep will be gatekeep but if you get into 2-2 and get that deathly or whatever it is, it will get easier to prog 2-2/3

[quaint wasp]

I'm tempted to have my friends 7c1 carry/teach me

the raid

[queen grail]

I joined a G1 hard Reclear also as first clear, however, I did have a 5x Wipe as last standing so I just said that,

[quaint wasp]

[queen grail]

The Conq Title Zerker in the grp.

Was perma Dead twice, once pre-Phase 2 and once pre-380<

Like, If this bozo can get conq, what am I doing.

[ebon snow]

I joined g12 nm run even though i only progged g1 hm

[queen grail]

Normal is really smooth tho, even more so with high dps.

[tulip charm]

the difference is your trying to learn 21 to 22 prog, the other guy is on baker prog

[queen grail]

When I gave up today I joined a 1750 grp for normal and the boss died during clash before 🏜️ phase.

[ebon snow]

yea i just died to random grabs off map though then they got mad lmao

[queen grail]

This guy on my friendslist didn't clear.

So, you know, It's not just a walk in the park for everyone at least

[ebon snow]

Oofies

[queen grail]

[ebon snow]

meanwhile in artist chat they're talking about hm reclears

on alts

[queen grail]

Smh

Whales.

[tulip charm]

scalp cleared

his gonna flex on people for the next week

[ebon snow]

smh my head

[tulip charm]

also chuan cleared, but its just him, not his static

[queen grail]

If baldy didn't clear.

I would have been sshocked.

The guy is ultra-whale geared in a ultra-whale Static.

It's not comparable to pug life in any sense of the word.

[quaint wasp]

Chaos Conqueror is the hm clear right

[queen grail]

Yea

[quaint wasp]

wow so the most handless db I ever met

[queen grail]

even so, he's what? 3k, 3,5k paladin or something? He'll get into juiceee parties

[quaint wasp]

cleared hm

[tulip charm]

i think this is prob too hard for me, my main is not even 2900

[queen grail]

xdd

[ebon snow]

they're playing a different game/raid at this point

[tulip charm]

ill prob aim for week 3 or week 4 title

[ebon snow]

paldain takes off ether drops

[queen grail]

Gearscore is irrelevant until people are of equal skills in terms of uptime, then gearscore is a HUGE deal.

[ebon snow]

hes now a 2,2k

[quaint wasp]

that db is higher

cp

[queen grail]

Since you objectivly push harder and faster when you get comfortable with uptime

[quaint wasp]

https://i.imgur.com/TllsM0S.png

[queen grail]

That's the point, when a 2,5k Combat Power dps get's used to patterns and starts pumping contra a 3,5k Combat power dps doing the same, the dps is not even in the same world

[tulip charm]

i need the people that cleared to quit and sell all their gems immediately, the more the better

if gems crash i can buy it and go prog

[quaint wasp]

ikr

waiting on this too

[queen grail]

You have a ceiling, and with more combat power, that ceiling keep going up,

I can pump X amount with my gearscore/Combat power, but I can't even touch the people with 1k+ combat power above me unless they just fumble the ball completely.

But ofc, a bad player is still a bad player in more shiny gear,

[queen grail]

Meanwhile my Wardancer Main.

Sub 2800

[quaint wasp]

the top WF parse is held by a 3.3k cp player

giga hands

[queen grail]

I have a higher chance to clear on my ngl, she's almost 2500 but I'm low key a really good support

[quaint wasp]

you just need some cp then have infinite hands

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/thankyou-themask-jimcarey-loveme-love-gif-18976878

[viscid sand]

doesnt matter how good you are at keeping people alive when they fail the just guards in g2

[queen grail]

That's what I'm saying, I just gotta try and get a good grp and eventually

[tulip charm]

[queen grail]

To be fair, my Mordum first-clear back in the Week 2 Clear, was in a 7/8 Reclear grp with me saying "I know the fight, trust me, I've been to 0x"

[quaint wasp]

cn whale

[tulip charm]

he made his 4th or 5th sideral weapon +9 recently, thats why the stone prices keeps going up -_-

[queen grail]

I'll just do the same this time, I'll learn 2-2 and 2-3 to the point that I can just join Reclear and pull out the "Trust me Bro" card.

[undone summit]

@ebon snow gave @queen grail +1 reputation.

[queen grail]

Also, honestly, 2-3 seems, easier than 2-2 and 2-1

[ebon snow]

:copiumGALAXY:

[queen grail]

The mechs just seems, really fine to do also

[viscid sand]

they're really just pepega-filters

[queen grail]

Like this is just, "Don't panic", that's the mech.

This is just, Armen do your thing plx thanks.

[quaint wasp]

I thought all the raids leading up to this

were pepega filters

ngl idk how so many people are still pepegas

I thought brel 1.0 should have filtered out

them al

[queen grail]

And this is just, "Send the Bard here bye felicia"

[viscid sand]

i'd say some raids like thaemine, is more of a personal skill check. but pepega filters, i would consider the "yeah fk this group" kind of mech like mordum's x425

like armoche's x240 is a pepegafilter for me

[queen grail]

not even remotely.

[quaint wasp]

g0

harder

[queen grail]

Kaz G2 hard is way harder than whatever that wierdo Shield dude is doing.

We cleared Act 4 Hard with a grp that had like, 7 ppl at 2k Combat power'ish and one dude at 2,5k

And It felt fine.

[quaint wasp]

i just wonder how insane

the gatekeep will be

[swift tree]

you ever do original Brel?

[quaint wasp]

btw what's a normal players's main cp usually at

nowadays?

2.8k?

3k?

[viscid sand]

the same level of insanity as always

[queen grail]

Mordum G3 was harder too by far.

[viscid sand]

[queen grail]

Mordum G3 for I'd say the majority of Week 1 & 2 title holder was a Week 2 clear not Week 1.

[viscid sand]

mordum g3 was pretty free after the group goes thru the 425 pepegafilter

[swift tree]

mordum g3 is mostly just matching colours

[quaint wasp]

smilegate needs to man up

[queen grail]

It was by far harder then that shield guy.

[swift tree]

if raiding was a color blind test

[quaint wasp]

and release a day 1 title

[swift tree]

go absolutely fuck yourself

[queen grail]

I'll say it even, Clown OG Day's on Ilvl was even harder than the shield guy on hard

[viscid sand]

22h maintenance

[quaint wasp]

buy pilots from koreans

[queen grail]

It's also extemely punishing not just for you, but with your team.

[swift tree]

title expires 8pm Korean Daylight Time

[queen grail]

Maybe It felt easier in a well oiled static, but most pug's struggled way more there then any I've seen in Armoch.

[swift tree]

(that's right before servers usually come up)

[quaint wasp]

I mean that title would be worth something

[queen grail]

Same

[viscid sand]

i've seen parties struggle a lot in armoche too though

[quaint wasp]

what's the cp generally atm

to get past g0

[viscid sand]

the number of g2 reclear parties that pop out after 20mins to remake the lobby is

[quaint wasp]

and how much cp for titleless pepega

to get past g0

for act 4 hm

[queen grail]

Maybe I've just been lucky with my Armor bro grp's when I did it, all my hard ones were pretty smooth when it turned into Reclear grps.

[viscid sand]

i've been in parties with my 2320cp GL

[queen grail]

But, holy, It's half 8 in the morning

[ebon snow]

2.5k without grid is the bare minimum prolly

[viscid sand]

yes, thats why anecdotes are hardly a good metric

[quaint wasp]

new alts gonna be cooked

[queen grail]

For what? Kaz?

[quaint wasp]

who's gonna take them

w/o grid

[ebon snow]

for g0 rn

[viscid sand]

then play a better class if you wanna pass g0. use all privileges given

[queen grail]

Bruh, you 100% Don't need 2,500 for Act 4 Hard

[viscid sand]

[swift tree]

g0 of what?

Aegir?

[quaint wasp]

im revamping my roster

[swift tree]

[quaint wasp]

and I really don't want to gear chars

I'm dropping

[ebon snow]

i've been rejected in aegir before

[viscid sand]

nah it's not being said to you. it's being said to those who cant get past g0 for any arbitrary reason

[quaint wasp]

I used to perma deny GLs in clown

[queen grail]

As I said, a 2k reclear party had a fine time in Act4, 2,5k would be super smooth

[viscid sand]

ie the 90000th Souleater applying to g0

[swift tree]

spacebars into a saw

[ebon snow]

you thjink you need less ? we talking all highmid, every system done, at least +23 wep and maybe 2 engravings

[quaint wasp]

oi

lemme in

[queen grail]

You don't need any of this for Act 4 hard, I'd say for reclear 2,2-2,5 with 2,5 being high-end on comfortable and fast, but you shouldn't have issue clearing it with avg 2,2+-

[viscid sand]

you need way less damage-wise, but we all know we're overcompensating cause timmy, andrew and john are going to fly in final phase

[ebon snow]

Oh yeah act4

[queen grail]

But sure, if you just want Zoomer mode act 4 giga smash then sure, go overgeared but there should plenty of grps with lower req's.

Same as all raid's.

Some groups want's giga juicer's.

[ebon snow]

from my progging experience it seems u need way more for kaz tho

[queen grail]

Other's are ok with less.

[ebon snow]

Fair enough

[queen grail]

Kaz is trash designed in terms of "what you need" and It's tuned for like 3,3k+ Combat Power on 1730 and that's, insane.

[ebon snow]

I mean, what can you add to my list? Read ALL engravings? that sucks right now

[queen grail]

Kaz's difficulity is made by a monke who rolled a dice to determine how hard it would become and that monke should start playing DND is all I'm saying.

[ebon snow]

overtap armor to +23? xD

we didnt save mats for years like other servers

[viscid sand]

https://tenor.com/view/kazeros-lost-ark-mokoko-gif-2661148363146555124

[ebon snow]

DNDeez

[queen grail]

The monke rolled Nat 20's all the time, nat 20's in dnd is good.

[viscid sand]

get lucky with your core drops

[queen grail]

[quaint wasp]

the real play is after race

gatekeep for top 10 title only

[queen grail]

Ye, but, maybe you're not the average player then and more TFM material.

I'm just saying, Normal should be for "The majority of player's" To clear.
Hard should be for "The people putting in a bit of extra time and have hands".

Right now Hard is more like a mini-TFM tuned difficulty, at least that's how puglife feel's there.

[ebon snow]

So did I hear right if I convince my friend to play TFM and I know he's been sharing accounts it might boot him?

[queen grail]

[viscid sand]

what a wonderful thing Frontier is

[queen grail]

The person that tuned this raid, should be punched in the groin, that's all I'm saying.

You don't tune 1730 raids for 1750 equal combat power

[viscid sand]

nah, they knew what they were doing when they gave the superior title for week 2 week 3

[queen grail]

Also, 2-2 should be G3.

You can't change my mind.

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[ebon snow]

it's tuned as if everyone had chad dps uptime

[viscid sand]

it's really just a gear disparity for some people because their hands cannot compensate

[ebon snow]

but they numbed our senses with months of behemoth/aegir

Oh yeah I mean in the beginng u hit 300 but when cutscenes/mechs come

[queen grail]

And what's their Combat Power number because Gearscore is mostly irrelevant.

[ebon snow]

i'll never forgive

[queen grail]

I love Wardancer...

[ebon snow]

rip

[queen grail]

My class is literally the LAST in 1730 median bracket

[bitter inlet]

time 2 reroll to fi

[queen grail]

No

?

It's not working?

I don't really use meter

Oh,

[bitter inlet]

yeah take a 5-10 min break

and ggs to your parse

[tulip charm]

wajaja

[queen grail]

I mean, that's not easy to say from just "that number".

Lots of factor's to see if their gear/damage was high.

If a 1730 on Ilvl 2800 Is doing 400 mil, then yes, beast.

If a 1750 5k Is doing it, njaa.

[viscid sand]

i mean, whatever gets you the clear

[queen grail]

[viscid sand]

you either compensate with hands or with money. both just makes you look "better"

[queen grail]

that's kinda sus tho, you can't both have bad playing and high incap and high damage beast mode.

Is it like, 10 sec giga high?

Ok, see, this is why, you don't tune raids after people like you Terry.

If we did, might as well just remove all hard and just make it TFM.

Yea, I know.

20sec Knockdown in the span of 16min is not exactly wild.

[viscid sand]

i mean.. a lot of kaz's patterns that knock you down are mostly anti melee

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-meredith-grey-i-will-punch-you-in-the-face-threat-punch-you-in-the-face-gif-23549405

This is Kaz.

To Melee.

Either way, hard is unbalanced, gold river smells bad, and SG can't balance, frontier is ass.

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[ebon snow]

so salty

[viscid sand]

one of my friends gave up going for the counter as a striker 'cause she just gets fked by whatever it is due to her trex hands

[queen grail]

Nah, just yapping before sleeping, I just wish they didn't tune raid's so high.

[queen grail]

lul

Wait, Striker has Push Immunity on their Big hit no?

[ebon snow]

Truege and Sleepge

[viscid sand]

but thats also basically what frontier is for

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/pass-saturday-night-live-smash-or-pass-next-not-interested-gif-25441284

[viscid sand]

the ✨ counter ✨

[ebon snow]

✨ ✨

[queen grail]

Meanwhile, Wardancer, here, take this 0,5 sec Push Immunity on a skill that hits at point blank range and misses if the boss is 0,5 meter's away on a strick Rotational cooldown so you can never use it just to, push immune.

thanks SG, I love it.

no.

[ebon snow]

i'll jhust always quote this ex loa streamer

[viscid sand]

so you don't want the raid to be overtuned... but you don't like the raid getting more accessible over time?

[queen grail]

They have Push immunity on T and Their X

[ebon snow]

WD? W aiting to D elete

[viscid sand]

[queen grail]

I'm to tired to log on but I'm pretty sure their Leap gives them push immunity on it

Like, 99% of Shadowhunter's are demons tho xD

[viscid sand]

it's full paraimmune with push immune being X, awakening and transforming

[queen grail]

Ye, Demonic Shadowhunter's have easy life.

[ebon snow]

T

tho

[queen grail]

Anyone playing DI Complaining neeeds to just

just play Ambush PS with the dash that can move you to the other side of boss

[swift tree]

How about we just make raids that are fun to play without the looming burden of clearing for income

[queen grail]

I can see that, HOWEVER, you also don't have to consider any buffing before doing shit.

That's my one big gripe with WD that they did fix a little bit.

[sharp rock]

https://tenor.com/view/cachitoraquel-gif-16816061455628133879

[viscid sand]

oh i guess they take the push immune T leap for DI

[queen grail]

If you don't have your buffs, you don't do damage, if you buff and the boss moves too much, you're fucked.

[swift tree]

Kazeros 2-2 isn’t as cancerous if you’re not doing it weekly for gold

[queen grail]

think they do, since it makes it faster too If I'm not mistaken.

[viscid sand]

uh, not really. it's more so that people KNOW they can clear. they are just easily disappointed when things do not go their way

i think not getting gold is a minor factor in the grand scheme of things

[queen grail]

I think if you're doing it weekly It would turn into the same old "Whatever" as all raids tho, since you'll be doing title run's

Any and all raid's over time turns into a "Well, time to do this raid now"

[viscid sand]

and the raids that are fun but don't reward gold. . . well

lemme tell you how kaz tfm / hell mode went down

[queen grail]

All they had to do with Hellmode was just to have a "Box of potions" at the start so people could use them.

And I swear, so many more people would do it.

[sand marsh]

i stg they better make kaz tfm equalized hell content in the future

im excited for hell thaemine

speedrun leadboard for kaz tfm is relic

no

but i know all speedrun leadboard titles are relic

because they are in CN xdd

and each one had it's own unique icon

Valtan - Aegir had it's own unique icon

for speedrun

the Valtan and Vykas one looked sick

ya\

[swift tree]

nm is fine, I mentioned 2-2 because of some of the bs mechs that make the second arena in HM more bullshit

only unique title so far afaik is the Kazeros first place one that has a lightning glow to it

[quaint wasp]

name of that top?

pics?

[neon cedar]

#lost-ark-discussions message

[cyan elk]

How wtf

[quaint wasp]

oh ark pass skin

can't get it anymore

btw you ever found a good aero umbrella skin?

I've tried a few but none have scratched the tich

itch

[cyan elk]

Well GG's for u it's good shit too 9

Top

[quaint wasp]

maybe bad dye skills

[neon cedar]

A couple but idk what im using off the top of my head. Id have to check tomorrow

[cyan elk]

6h maint crazy work

[quaint wasp]

ty

lmk

[swift tree]

It's a patch without being an official release, it's bug fixes for the fuckups from last week

[sand marsh]

this is gonna take a while x.x

[cyan elk]

you know anything about compensation they mentioned?

"Reward chest names in Hell and Netherworld are now correctly aligned with their actual contents.
Compensation will be sent to affected players within 12 hours of maintenance ending."

[swift tree]

just probably giving out the loot from what the chest was supposed to be

in my case I'll be logging in to some elysian tickets

[cyan elk]

what did u open

[swift tree]

Legacy Random

[cyan elk]

i mean i opened in purpose a leapstone chest because i knew it had elysian tickets

XD

[quiet flower]

6 hours downtime

[swift tree]

or the compensation is a refunded key

[cyan elk]

lets hope so

[swift tree]

there's an actual patch, is why

[quiet flower]

[cyan elk]

still i dont think it gonna be 6 hours

make it 4h

[swift tree]

It'll probably be up in 2-4 hours tho

[cyan elk]

ye

[swift tree]

gathering the booty

[cyan elk]

this is a happy week

hell keys are back

[vague stirrup]

lol they wont

[swift tree]

You know they're removing equalisation, right?

[sand marsh]

I know but they should bring it back.

Or scale it up everytime there is a new power system

[swift tree]

they're allegedly building a content scaling system

but that might go the route of the LoL minigame

[sand marsh]

ah shit

making this guide may be a bit of a problem

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[swift tree]

they mentioned it briefly during last Winter and Summer LOA on but only showed a brief preview, like solo raiding before it got fully announced

[sand marsh]

ya i remember that

i'm consolidating these attack patterns and i have no idea what to call them

my imagination is shit x.x

[swift tree]

steal maxroll homework?

[sand marsh]

ehhhhh

some of these patterns aren't on maxroll

[swift tree]

nvm

maxroll names are kinda ass tho

[sand marsh]

plus somehow that feels scummy lol

[swift tree]

who tf calls spinning lasers in a circle "twister" instead of "carousel/merry-go-round"

https://tenor.com/view/carousel-kids-carnival-carnival-ride-fun-gif-14635376014631919574

[wind dagger]

Clown?

[swift tree]

Mordum

[wind dagger]

Mudrom

[vague stirrup]

mordumb

[sand marsh]

this one still a bit confusing

[lunar stag]

i forget to do paradise on my valk, fuck

[bitter inlet]

-3 keys

[vague stirrup]

Clone parry, I guess

breh

[lunar stag]

Don't remind me...

[sand marsh]

lol ive never seen this attack but somehow i have it recorded

weird counter pattern

[vague stirrup]

this one is annoying to get

literally be a counter class or forget bout it

[sand marsh]

ur a reaper no diff

[vague stirrup]

yeah, im a counter class

i can do as little as precast X, go a little back and teleport right to her face with counter

engravings, astrogems, accessories lul

Engravings were shit.

[vague stirrup]

[ebon snow]

I don't think that counter is hard to get

You spacebar the blue telegraph to her front and counter

[sand marsh]

Yeah ik

This is probably the most dangerous counter pattern in G1

[ebon snow]

yea we did all kinds of stuff like this already xd

[sand marsh]

Just her dash alone almost killed me from 100% HP xdd

[ebon snow]

That one is like the old echidna counter but lvl1000

Same animation

[sand marsh]

yea lol

[ebon snow]

Imagine if she chained it

[sand marsh]

Glad I am consolidating these patterns & making a guide. It'll help me as a player. win-win

[vague stirrup]

That's given you have said spacebar and is close enough to the front

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[night matrix]

hmm, i browse many channles and come across often on pics of raid comps etc and i almost never see scrapper outside of scrapper channel. is there a problem with them? honestly i am having the most fun rn on my 1540 tai scrapper

[midnight marlin]

"i am having the most fun rn"

thats all you need to worry about

[night matrix]

oh i am not meta chasing or stuff, i am a casual after all, was just curious :p

[midnight marlin]

scrapper just isnt played as much as other classes

[night matrix]

and that is what i find strange, maybe i have strange tastes in classess

[storm swan]

I think 31

Not bad

[sand marsh]

thats less than i thought

the last day push was like 100+ more clears. last pull buff

[storm swan]

31 * 8 pilots = 248

That’s kind of a lot

[sand marsh]

oh

over half the clears

https://tenor.com/view/peach-loves-goma-peach-and-goma-peach-goma-white-cat-gif-3761130951395140246

[storm swan]

No

As in 248 ppl

I feel like that is a lot lol

[sand marsh]

ohh i see

yeah no thats a ton

idk what the cost was, but i was told 700k day 1 at least

banking in gold kekw

[storm swan]

ya, 1mil for act 4 1mil for final act

[sand marsh]

sheesh

[sand marsh]

im doing a few act 4c next week, but it seems very annoying on hm. not sure if possible

the just guardmech in g2

you get punished for +4 guards

[storm swan]

That price will drop this week but we are expecting around same volume of ppl

[sand marsh]

[storm swan]

Oh ya idk how that works

Gl

Lmk if u can do that havent actually looked at any busses of the raid

[sand marsh]

nm is very easy though. there's a KR video explaining it for hm but i cant understand KR obv

Yeah I have. act NM 4c/Kaz 4c is chill

the dps checks are nonexistant

can do them on rats p much

[storm swan]

I see I guess I just don’t see how you’d succeed the guard in armoche before he throws you off the map

Because +4 he’s still moving towards you

[sand marsh]

for nm the +4 guard doesn't punish you i believe

[storm swan]

Oh

[sand marsh]

only for hard mode from what ive seen

[storm swan]

I haven’t done a nm before

Yea hard if u don’t have +6 minimum he’s moving towards you

[sand marsh]

https://youtu.be/Bx_mjZROC_k?si=xdj4_XiAlCNH68Uo&t=320

it's timestamped

nm 4c

ye +4 pushes him back in nm kekw

[storm swan]

Ah that makes sense then

[sand marsh]

haven't found a hm 4c but i can look rq

Act 4 Armoche DPS Requirements (20% HP Nerf considered)

Does not factor sidereal damage.
Normal Mode
🟢 4c: 200mil
🟢 3c: 300mil
🟢 2c: 600mil

Kazeros: Final Act DPS Requirements

Does not factor sidereal damage.
Normal Mode
🟢 4c: 211mil
🟢 3c: 317mil
🟢 2c: 635mil

kinda silly lol

hm yea from what i have seen KR does 6c for act 4 hm

prolly cuz of JG mech. ggs

[paper scroll]

according to uwu q3 for hm g2 is already at 300-342m so 211m should be piss ez for bussers

and somehow bk is top lul

[smoky crow]

literally they were on the website and now every single one disappeared xD

[cinder mango]

https://tenor.com/view/american-century-of-humiliation-american-century-humiliation-aws-gif-12376772423751393106

[fleet plover]

Reset day and no streamers on twitch

Where my KR frens

[cinder mango]

I was hungry so I ate them all deliciously for breakfast.

[sand marsh]

Anyone know is this attack pattern occurs prior to final phase?

[lunar stag]

in normal i didn't see a lot of patterns, but one he does a lot is front to back attack and side attacks

[sand marsh]

yeah i know. im asking about this specific attack

[pseudo trout]

This attack is the one shot front not save then back appears random

[safe lark]

most deadly in pugs are

grab back into fly to africa

and dash into stomp into travel to respawn

[sand marsh]

the one I showed, is a pattern that always goes like that. He slams 3 times in total.

[pseudo trout]

Oh yea I saw was 3 times I think the 3rd was just a normal slam

[sand marsh]

I've just never seen it prior to final phase. From after JG destruction mech - to before final phase

[sand marsh]

im aware, but that wasnt my question xdd

[fathom cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/amazon-server-gif-27101597

[earnest ivy]

6h Just for hotfix that damn hell chest

[midnight marlin]

it happens at the same time his patterns get enhanced

[cyan fog]

quick question - the omnium stars/island souls that you need to farm from older worldbosses, are they farmable on the hour or is it a 1 per day attempt?

[amber zealot]

1 per day

[smoky crow]

omnium stars every 1h

from field bosses

[cyan fog]

[safe lark]

world bosses give shit every hour

got changed some time ago

so u dont need to do moake for half a year

or so

[smoky crow]

t3 ones i believe?

or you can farm kurzan boss every hour aswell

[safe lark]

not kurzan

[smoky crow]

well then sadge

[paper scroll]

u wish kek

[smoky crow]

ye i wish

[night matrix]

i did not know omg! i was putting that off because it was onea of those that i will never get

[lunar olive]

anyone know the dps req for hm kaz after the 10% nerfs?

[cyan fog]

current tier content is fair enough to have limited but i was missing stars #8 #9 #10 and keep putting it off good to know i can farm these up asap tho

[charred void]

amazon who server

[noble yarrow]

250 - 10%

[smoky crow]

first do the t4 boss

then wander around the t3 ones for stars

[burnt tree]

kurzan is the endgame world boss, aint happening, but they buffed the drop rates 2-3 times already

[smoky crow]

bcs you'll miss the rewards

[smoky crow]

nah only thing i am interested in if you could farm this boss every hour is gems xD

[burnt tree]

xddd

[swift tree]

Rasamoa when?

[burnt tree]

Surely March

[smoky crow]

what is rasamoa?

[swift tree]

Continent Sacria is on

[burnt tree]

the main city of sacria

[swift tree]

Sacria is the name of the Church, Rasamoa is the capital

[burnt tree]

or vice versa

can we burn it tho

[swift tree]

"Fall of Rasamoa" is the name of the painting on the floor during Voldis

[smoky crow]

sacria?

[swift tree]

bro

when they add the story express, go make a new character

then no excuse

[summer oasis]

guys

[smoky crow]

i didn't read story literally skipped everything xD

[burnt tree]

we can tell

[smoky crow]

I KNOW SORRY

[summer oasis]

any ideas why i lost my mokoko when i dont have a character 1700 ilvl?

[burnt tree]

did u reach 10x clears on a raid?

[swift tree]

mokoko on party finder or mokoko next to name?

[smoky crow]

was hoping someone gave a short storytelling

xD

[summer oasis]

party finder the leaf

[burnt tree]

u can watch Saintones lore video

[smoky crow]

30 clears of raid before the event

[swift tree]

10 clears

[smoky crow]

or 10 clears of raid during event

[burnt tree]

its like 2-3 hours from start up to Kazeros

and hes still missing on some details

[smoky crow]

or acc created longer than 2months before

[summer oasis]

but i lost it after i cleared act 3 for the second time

[swift tree]

since starting event or overall?

[summer oasis]

overall

[swift tree]

2nd clear on that character or roster?

[sick ivy]

maintenance forever?

[summer oasis]

that char

[swift tree]

the clears are roster based

[summer oasis]

i have only one char that does act 3

well i dont mind it cuz i already got the 2 selectors with mokoko tokens and now i can get 3 more with expert

lol

[smoky crow]

well have no idea then

"Green-leaf Mokoko: item level below 1700 and respecting one of the following conditions:
New accounts created 60 days or less before the event start date.
Returning accounts that haven't logged in for over 60 days.
Players who have cleared Gate 1 of the specified raid 30 times or less."

[summer oasis]

im a returnee yes

[smoky crow]

when did u use to play?

[summer oasis]

i started playing when argos was one of the main raids

and like stopped after 2 months and started when SE came and then stopped before t4

and i started like 3 weeks ago

[smoky crow]

hm then im curious

maybe they'll fix that after the maintenance is complete

sometimes it's buggy

[summer oasis]

ig

but i got expert tokens

wait can the leaf leave for like 1 raid and i can have it on another one?

do u know that?

[swift tree]

yes

[smoky crow]

yes

[swift tree]

its per raid

[smoky crow]

if you're pre 1700

[summer oasis]

im dumb then

thanks

!

[smoky crow]

each raid you don't have x10 clears on

you have mokoko

[summer oasis]

im dumb thanks

thanks alot team

[smoky crow]

but you said you don't have x10 of mordum?

[summer oasis]

no i dont

[swift tree]

[summer oasis]

but i dont have leaf on behemoth

[smoky crow]

then what did it solve for you? xD

[swift tree]

was probably asking about Brel/Aegir lobby

[summer oasis]

[smoky crow]

you cleared x10?

[swift tree]

^whomp

Behemoth

[summer oasis]

i have lots of clears on behe

i got 6 chars t4

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/thatll-do-it-mitch-tulsa-king-s1e8-thats-why-gif-27371592

[smoky crow]

then you cannot get moko tokens on behe anymore prob

but other raids you don't have x10 are fine

[summer oasis]

so i can get both tokens

thats broken

[smoky crow]

yes

[summer oasis]

ggs

[tawny barn]

wait they changed the mokoko system ?

[swift tree]

yup

[smoky crow]

wdym?

[cyan elk]

is server up chat

[summer oasis]

thats broken af

[swift tree]

Mokoko Bootcamp, different system

[tawny barn]

it doesn't matter wether u cleared x10 or not

[summer oasis]

no

[swift tree]

not really because if you're returning/new it gives you a catch-up mech

whole point of it is to be a leg-up

[summer oasis]

yea

the 15-18 books are insane

[swift tree]

wait til you see the +19-+20 ones

[summer oasis]

idk if ill use them

[swift tree]

yeah

[summer oasis]

for now at least

[swift tree]

save them til after event

or at least until the beginner koko tokens are there

[summer oasis]

my weapon on main is +20 so they kinda useless

[smoky crow]

i got like 50 15-18 books on char that has full +18 gear

but no ah done

x_x

[swift tree]

dont worry, Dec 17

[cyan elk]

hope 15 18 books go lower on price

[smoky crow]

what gonna be on dec 17?

[cyan elk]

so i can hone on my alts

[summer oasis]

bro i thought we gonna have the event 1 week ago

i got so pissed

[smoky crow]

yeah

i was bout to make another chara then suddenly "ekhm we're moving the event to december, fuck you"

[summer oasis]

i cant wait to play paradise today

[summer oasis]

YUP

[cyan elk]

cant wait to do hell keys man

[smoky crow]

can't wait to do the 20 hell keys x_x

[summer oasis]

i saved 500k gold to push my db to 1680+

[cyan elk]

THIS WEEK IS FULL DOPAMINE

[summer oasis]

and then...

[smoky crow]

on 1 chara

[cyan elk]

wdym 20 hell keys wtf

[summer oasis]

yeah

oh

from cube tickets

this guy dont do cubes

today is gonna be a great day i get the last bloodclaw i need

[smoky crow]

cube tickets

into hell keys

[swift tree]

waste ngl

[summer oasis]

nah bro

[smoky crow]

• they gotta give us compensation for not being able to do them this week

• leaderboard

[summer oasis]

if he goes like lvl 6-7 on every key

its really worth

[smoky crow]

i want free taps

bound gold

[swift tree]

they're giving compensation from the ones that were bugged, there was no keys because of placement week

[smoky crow]

and abidos

[summer oasis]

uhm

guys

[swift tree]

we got some as gifts / they updated shop before it closed

[summer oasis]

i did hell last week btw

[swift tree]

they locked it down after 24 hours

[smoky crow]

maybe they'll give smt still

[summer oasis]

yeah

[smoky crow]

i hope

[summer oasis]

i did 3 keys

[swift tree]

same

[summer oasis]

got abidos to push main

worth

[swift tree]

got one of the bugged ones

[summer oasis]

ye

what was the bug again?

[swift tree]

im saying i did

names were wrong

[summer oasis]

on chests?

[swift tree]

legacy random = ability stones
ability stones = accessories
leap stones = elysian tickets

[summer oasis]

dufuk

[cyan elk]

but even if u have 40 cubes u can only swap for 1 weekly if below 1700 cube

[swift tree]

AGS's dogshit localization at it again

[cyan elk]

i think above or equal to 1700 u shouldnt swap to hell keys ngñ

[smoky crow]

instead of giving cheat sheet they closed hell keys

imagine

[summer oasis]

i hope they give 5 keys for comp

[cyan elk]

2 max

1 fair 2 max if they are generous

[summer oasis]

and an aura

[smoky crow]

still remember when brel used to say nightmare in french

[summer oasis]

cuz im broke

[swift tree]

that was a feature, not a bug

LE CAUCHEMAR

[smoky crow]

did i say it was a bug?

:3

it was definately better

[charred void]

amazon why server

[swift tree]

especially since Sylvains use French names and she's a Rohendel big bad

[smoky crow]

lmao didn't know that

[swift tree]

amazon how server

[swift tree]

avele, adrinne, debussy, aven, danube etc.

[smoky crow]

isn't avele vern?

[summer oasis]

cant wait to do 20 keys today

[swift tree]

they're moonkeep sylvains

exiles

[smoky crow]

oh

lol

ig time to watch lore video

[smoky crow]

amazon which server

[swift tree]

tl;dr there's the Sun / Dawn / Moon Keeps of magic within Rohendel.
The Moon one was blown up during a big accident influenced by Brelshaza during the Chain War.

Moonkeep split into two factions, "Order of the Waning Moon" and "New Moonkeep"

[summer oasis]

thats why azena is so pissed on brel

[swift tree]

yup

Xeneela in ruins etc.

and Innana basically died

[summer oasis]

i just thought azena has a crush on her

lol

[swift tree]

nah

Ealyn also not like by Azena, but more "cold shoulder"

they make up during Rapport and South Vern epilogue

[summer oasis]

cool

i never cared about lore

[swift tree]

That tsundere in Rowen was an apprentice to the mage that blew up Xeneela

[summer oasis]

i just skipped everything

why do u know that much im scared

[swift tree]

just reading

not difficult

[summer oasis]

isnt it boring

[swift tree]

not when you're a fantasy nerd

[summer oasis]

or u play only lost ark

[swift tree]

nah i play other shit

[summer oasis]

how many hours u have on la

[swift tree]

I swear 1/3 of it is AFK though

[summer oasis]

show me

HJOLY

[swift tree]

I started at launch tho

[summer oasis]

yeah

[swift tree]

you dont want to see how cooked my OSRS playtime is

well not playtime, but account age

[quaint wasp]

[summer oasis]

i got 6000 on league

[wind dagger]

Shit game

[wind dagger]

Gimme ur gems

[humble sandal]

[wind dagger]

🔫

[summer oasis]

all my gems are bound

lol

[wind dagger]

You don't have tradeable gems

[summer oasis]

no

i dont even have a 1700 char

my main is 1696

[summer oasis]

and 9k hours on genshin lol

[smoky crow]

buy out as much mokoko shop as you can, and then you could push to 1700 to buy out expert aswell

[summer oasis]

i get both tokens

[smoky crow]

ye on behe you get experts

[summer oasis]

yup

ill do all my raids this week and then ill push main

so i can get everything from the mokoko shop

i already got the 2 selectors so im fine

[slim portal]

what is the most populated US east server?

[sand marsh]

Luterra

[slim portal]

ok ty! thats what i thought

[swift tree]

vairgrys

(dont go on vairgrys)

[cyan elk]

are we up?

[swift tree]

no clue i just finished DL

[swift tree]

no

[cyan elk]

🙁

[wind dagger]

What is that rat emote

[quiet flower]

[wind dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/mariah-carey-christmas-merry-christmas-all-i-want-for-christmas-is-you-its-time-gif-8937953536637082786

[swift tree]

liar

[bleak zinc]

[bleak zinc]

[ancient oasis]

welp i wasnt able to do HM final day last week cause none of the pugs i joined were doing min dps and this week i am out of town for thanksgiving rip frontier title

[naive nimbus]

There was a party that auto nerf themselves an do it on 2400 cp

They didnt use card set and lvl 6 gem

To prepare for the first

[obtuse oyster]

Week 3 and 4 sounds cooler so you’ll still make it

[wind dagger]

Frontier?

[shell tapir]

and x5 hm title is the best

[shell tapir]

there are multiple versions, some did 3 engravings, some no cards 4 engravings, some without dmg gems on support etc

[naive nimbus]

Yeah, i mean, its possible to clear without 3800 CP

As every raid, you need to master it first

[ancient oasis]

yea i was joing pug groups that had ready to clear in the title for gate 1 even with 3000 CP dps and like maybe one or two people in the group were hitting min dps.

[grim kindle]

can buy better gear cant buy hands sadlty

[sand marsh]

Spotlight hurts om xdd

Rewatching my footage.

silly me

[ancient oasis]

joined one group with a sidereal guy and he kept duying before x700 lolol

[grim kindle]

who

yesterday??

was it a blade

xD

ah wait ur na nvm

same experience yesterday with an esther blade who kept dying perma before g2 2

[ancient oasis]

funny though it was a blade

[shell tapir]

most sidereal or super juiced people are like that sadly

[ancient oasis]

they swipe to make up for having no hands but it only works for homework content when we are out of frontier.

[shell tapir]

i usually just take it as a warning sign if they apply to a far weaker lobby lol

[quiet flower]

You're just more likely to want to accept the giga juicers cause of the damage they bring

[ancient oasis]

then you look at the logs and they are doing like 200 mil dps

and the highest dps is the guy with the lowest cp doing like 350

[shell tapir]

RE 90% of the time

[night matrix]

on a side note, when you handle 6 characters, do you do daily chaos and guardian or only on main? do the weekly unas too only on main too? it seems like a lot of work xD

[shell tapir]

I only do rested nowadays im so far ahead I cba unrested

[wind dagger]

There are people in this server

Who do 32x chaos

And gr

Each day

[ancient oasis]

those are insane people

[night matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-david-shittscreek-gif-15625591

[fleet plover]

I did daily on 6 for a lot of months, but I recommend you to do them rested it's better this way.

[shell tapir]

some ppl afk and type in discord instead of doing a 2 min chaos as well

Whatever finds you happiness

[night matrix]

i mean, i guess an argument can be made to do them daily until you get to paradise maybe?

[wind dagger]

Typing doesn't make you insane

You're being social

[fleet plover]

It's always worth to do daily if you enjoy doing that and don't feel like a burden, but if it's too much just do resterd it's all good

[swift tree]

I spread out 15 chars' x3 over a week, then alternate between weeks, not a structured thing just play it by ear

[shell tapir]

With the amount of insane people typing in discord... um.

[night matrix]

makes sense, I want to just prevent burnout, it seems like one of the key factors for it :p

[shell tapir]

Best just to do what you feel like at the moment and don't care about doing X things every day

[fleet plover]

I have so many shards ahead of my friends just because back then I did them daily and they always did rested. But back then it was way much worth to run daily because there was no shard limit now it's limited to 3 days.

[wind dagger]

That's how I got burned out last year or this year even... Doing it was before the chaos and guardian changes

[shell tapir]

"Wow today I feel like doing unrested" do it. "Today I dont feel like doing even rested" don't do it then.

[wind dagger]

^

[night matrix]

seems like best approach xD

[wind dagger]

Don't have mental capability do the chaos and gr

In fact

[quiet flower]

GR unrested is not worth it

[wind dagger]

I'd like to have a daily boss we kill with others to receive our shards, resources and leaps

[shell tapir]

I want to throw my daily electric grenade

[wind dagger]

That can be killed in 2-3 mins

Can easily be the field boss

It gives field boss + chaos dungeon + guardian raid

[night matrix]

wait, I jsut caught spomething, what is this 3 day shard limit?

[shell tapir]

3 chaos dungeons is enough to fill your chaos claim or w/e its called

[night matrix]

oooo for the weekly una?

[fleet plover]

When you clear chaos you can collect a box that provides shards and silver, you can only claim 3 per week so basically if you do more then 3 chaos per week you barely get any shards out of it.

[shell tapir]

Not weekly una

in the chaos dungeon interface on the left you can claim shards from doing chaos dungeons

[night matrix]

ooo those! yes yes, forgot about them ! xD

[shell tapir]

Before you got shards from the individual runs instead

[fleet plover]

I want the before back.

[night matrix]

bruh, after 3 weeks i just learnt that xD

[fleet plover]

Let me do chaos whenever I feel like it don't force me to do 3 per week because otherwise you just lose the shards.

[night matrix]

i thought you got shards regardless and the boxes were more like some extra thing

[fleet plover]

Nah, you barely get any shards from chaos without boxes. Like idk 10k at the ends and that's it.

Boxes provide the most shards.

[night matrix]

maybe i didn't pay attention to it too much as I was not really lacking that many because i just got to 1580 last week

[swift magnet]

make chaos great again. i didnt ask for that change. its like being punished for playing the game

[quiet flower]

I have 2 days left of Azena Blessing, surely I get something good

[night matrix]

i'm gonna be honest, i do chaos daily because.... i actually find it fun lmao xD

[zenith canyon]

+1 elysian

[night matrix]

would've been cool to do as many as you want tbh(idc about rewards balancing, not my problem xD)

[swift magnet]

me too 😄 but still make it great again for us ^^

[sand marsh]

this attack hurts so much om

[worldly hawk]

jst don't get hit

[sand marsh]

it happens so fast x.x

u slightly touch thelaser and ur basically ded without sup care

im shocked i didnt die om

[wind dagger]

Streamer rng dodge

In fact, how does this game not have dodge rate

[sand marsh]

its called spacebar...

[wintry depot]

Newest skin in the stronghold cookie npc

[lunar stag]

server should be up soon right?

[kind oriole]

Ok team what situations with servers

[sand marsh]

dead

[kind oriole]

Expected

[charred void]

amazon what is server

[worldly hawk]

amazon how is server

[fresh flint]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-foot-wave-emoji-foot-wave-foot-wave-gif-531188699701561742

[worldly hawk]

[surreal gyro]

lmfao

[sand marsh]

tbf i had HA on

but yeah it nukes

[swift tree]

crazy to think we got sorc on launch when it was only new when our version released

[cinder mango]

BALD

[worldly hawk]

projecting?

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/wig-snatched-gif-9755239

[cinder mango]

shut up you bald

[surreal gyro]

i wanted to main arcana or summoner and they both came so lateee

despite being OG classes 🙂

[cinder mango]

i miss kat

return back kat

[pallid tundra]

Whats takin gthem so long

I wanna play

[quaint wasp]

wait WHAT

when was this added

is it dyable?

[cinder mango]

because ags

you understand

[worldly hawk]

well they are fixing their fuckups there are no suprises here

i'm actually suprised the maint is only 6 hours

[wintry depot]

Last week

And yes dyeable

Normal version is like brown

[lunar stag]

by the way, i saw a gunlancer survive what are meant to be instant death attacks when i was progging, do they have something in their kit that lets them do that or are those instant death attack deadly for everyone except them?

[cinder mango]

It must be very hard for them to remove the ACT2 Solo Mode button they 'leaked', they'll just add it back in eventually

[quaint wasp]

how many cookies

10k?

[ancient oasis]

what instant death attacks

[wintry depot]

Yes

[quaint wasp]

time to get after I stock up on cookies

looks really good

[lunar stag]

the kazeros wall breaking punshes

[cinder mango]

balderos

[ancient oasis]

that just does very big damage if you have huge shield and support DR you can live through it actually

[lunar stag]

wait really? It was instant death for everyone in our party even with supp except him lmao

[sand marsh]

wdym 'wall breaking punches'?

[lunar stag]

are gunlancer very tanky?

[lunar stag]

post 900

[wintry depot]

Yes

[sand marsh]

the large blue cone telegraph that you aim at the wall?

[cinder mango]

https://tenor.com/view/american-century-of-humiliation-american-century-humiliation-aws-gif-12376772423751393106

[sand marsh]

Yeah that can easily be tanked lol

[ancient oasis]

yea i mean a saved a gunslinger that was knocked down in the cone with awaken+75% dr skill and they arent a particularly tanky class

so

[worldly hawk]

isn't GS literally the most paper class in the game

or was it reaper

[ancient oasis]

yes

[charred void]

first gunslinger known to mankind who was able to resist floor pov

[stuck current]

Deadeye

[worldly hawk]

i don't floor POV on my GS

i don't do damage too so

[wind dagger]

You don't have a gs too