At the end of the day it’s only 15%
#lost-ark-discussions
high fog
wintry depot
can i have more dyes
fresh flint
No
wintry depot
:(
wintry depot
im poor
high fog
Like on a per character thing accs and gems are way more like disgusting
wintry depot
my earring doesnt want to sell
vague stirrup
define playable
cause im kinda just chilling here in terms of financial aspect, barely doing anything
raiding's fun tho, routine is what killing me and forced to put na on pause till event or smth
i cba doing chaos guardian n other dumb shit, so I'm fucked with event shops, shards, cards
cards in particular are fkn disgusting, casually getting breath18 and protection18 is... uh yeah not doing that
fresh flint
They need to get rid of silly options when cutting them. And increase the odds of high/mod rolls. Not to mention dps shouldn’t get support rolls and vice versa.
vague stirrup
qol sucks much more than gold gains
slender sky
i wouldnt even worry about the top end of the gearing process as much. the main priority is getting ppl to a spot where they actually have a functional character without having to break both their legs or wait a quarter year for the next event
fresh flint
Dps and support being able to cut another specs lines is fucking stupid
high fog
I think higher end gearing is what needs a look at. As much as we want new guys to come along we need people to stay
And people are not
vague stirrup
endgame kinda chill if you have established roster
gets pricey at some point
but eh
high fog
It uhh really is not rn
You make a lot of gold sure but that gold gets you so little bit closer to the end
vague stirrup
"the end" is designed for omega whales tho
high fog
And that progress is locked behind like 17 layers of rng
The end is the goal people work towards no matter what it’s designed for
zenith canyon
"the end" is designed for omega whales tho
sure it is, but dont u want ur "end" to be somewhat CLOSER? than 6months shit journey?
high fog
You don’t have to be able to reach it, you do need to be able to feel like you are making progress towards it
vague stirrup
The end is the goal people work towards no matter what it’s designed for
i have no clue about how krmmos work but i have a strong feeling that's not how krmmos work
high fog
And rn it is just gamba
high fog
i have no clue about how krmmos work but i have a strong feeling that's not how ...
Depends on the krmmo really
zenith canyon
even getting to 1710 with DECENT char is kinda shitshow for any newer player/any returning
high fog
Stuff like tera you could get fairly high up the power scale by just sticking it out, stuff like old aion, yea no
zenith canyon
i have no clue about how krmmos work but i have a strong feeling that's not how ...
they like to get u point u want to be, but that way to that point is nowhere near possible for non 24/7////WHALE player
vague stirrup
sure it is, but dont u want ur "end" to be somewhat CLOSER? than 6months shit jo...
i kinda jumped over my head already if we're talking about my main
zenith canyon
without any event its just 
vague stirrup
full 8s, some relic books, some honing, can even apply to tfm groups
high fog
Like at the end of the day, progress rn feels like it’s completely out of your control
zenith canyon
8s and tfm 
high fog
Just gotta get lucky or get out
vague stirrup
8s and tfm <:KEKW:834726120606924850>
i can apply doesnt mean ill get accepted or clear
just 1740ilvl is what i meant
high fog
Who gives a shit about ilvl though
Ilvl like doesn’t matter anymore
When a bad 1740 and a good 1740 has such a wide gap like it doesn’t matter
zenith canyon
ilvl is T3 shit, now u want all shit grindy systems to be done before u even go to honing bozo
high fog
Like you could have a slightly weaker 1740 slayer and a fairly strong 1740 slayer and the latter’s brutal will do like 1.7x the damage per cast
It’s so dumb
vague stirrup
omw to inflate my cp with demon% and -cdr+dmg lines and rc mi relic ep 
anyhow my point was that just imagining 1740ilvl, which I got MOSTLY by free taps and bound materials, is kinda insane
high fog
Yea but that’s not the reality of the situation these days
Ilvl really does not mean anything
zenith canyon
u can be 1755 and still be below 3k cp
high fog
Like there are 1695s that are “stronger characters” than my 1710s
vague stirrup
my initial point was that i couldnt imagine myself being where i am rn in terms of all aspects, ilvl included, even if it's not that relevant to ppl, breh
and even an abandoned roster can be at 1700 (easily 1710/20 if i actually played it)
high fog
Yes but like what’s your point
That’s not endgame progression
It’s not what’s being discussed
Gear taps are actually like one of the better designed power systems we have rn
Because they get extremely expensive compared to the gain in power you get while being like doable
Which is what it should be
lunar stag
man, i can't wait for tmr's reset to do more kazeros
vague stirrup
point is up to a very reasonable, maybe even beyond than "enough" or "comfortable" point for endgame of endgame, outside of, like, tfm as the sole exception, you can get as f2p, relatively easily
if what's beyond that is what is considered actual endgame, so like full 9s/10s, full books, full 25+40 gear, literally maxing out the character, then well
that's whale territory
not really a goal or reasonable way to spend gold n mats
wintry depot
point is up to a very reasonable, maybe even beyond than "enough" or "comfortable" point for endgame of endgame, outside of, like, tfm as the sole exception, you can get as f2p, relatively easily
if what's beyond that is what is considered actual endgame, so like full 9s/10s, full books, full 25+40 gear, literally maxing out the character, then well
vague stirrup
arna
wintry depot
what
vague stirrup
I'll stab you
high fog
point is up to a very reasonable, maybe even beyond than "enough" or "comfortabl...
Except that really is not true anymore
wintry depot
vague stirrup
<:SurprisedCahni:1438990936083398767>
vague stirrup
ew russian heart
fym russian i dont even have nitro to yoink it from ru official
it's very
uh
idk where this server is located
lunar stag
i mean, it depends, reasonable in terms of what? Time needed?
vague stirrup
unprecedented racism
wintry depot
im so bored, someone give me attention
vague stirrup
im so bored, someone give me attention
where darek
high fog
Like I’m not the best player for sure, but I’m solidly within like 5-10% of the top and I have a very developed roster so I can get away with being a lot shittier geared than most while making more resources than most people, having chars kitted well enough to reasonably tackle raid releases is not that consistent. My chars are like the very borderline of doable for hm kaz rn.
lunar stag
although i will be honest, the jump from normal mode kazeros and hm kazeros is insane
like even after frontier nerfs
2.4-5k cp is not that easy to get
for a f2p
wintry depot
excuse me, this was very easy
high fog
99.5% of the playerbase has no shot in hell of clearing at 2.5 tbh
lunar stag
i meant after nerfs
mystic basin
excuse me, this was very easy
Your a support opinion invalid
lunar stag
but i saw some clearing gate 1 with 2.3k
high fog
Tbh even after the nerfs I don’t think most people can
obtuse oyster
excuse me, this was very easy
mbt
high fog
but i saw some clearing gate 1 with 2.3k
2-2 and 2-3 are significantly more difficult than g1
lunar stag
yes
high fog
In damage reqs, uptime, everything
lunar stag
yes, that is why most will go the route of doing hard gate 1 normal gate 2
vague stirrup
Like I’m not the best player for sure, but I’m solidly within like 5-10% of the ...
3 hms on release is very much veterans/big spenders/both territory 
or like bus
high fog
3 hms on release is very much veterans/big spenders/both territory <:Weirdga:905...
My glaive is nowhere near hm on release level
vague stirrup
or alt roster
high fog
I would have to play pretty much 100% perfectly to make the cut
And that’s not reasonable
vague stirrup
My glaive is nowhere near hm on release level
ehhh
if this is true should be kinda enough
but you have hm experience and i dont cause RUSSIA WAY THANK YOU SMILEGATE AND ASTRUM
so I'll just trust you on this one
wintry depot
Your a support opinion invalid
:((((((((((
high fog
I think I would be 15% dps behind min if I were to take it into 2-2/3 rn
swift tree
:((((((((((
You’re also support cloning
wintry depot
You’re also support cloning
:((((((((((((((
lunar stag
personally, as sopmebody who just started 4 months ago, i would say lost ark is very difficult but not unreasonable for a f2p, it will take me probably 6 more months where i would be able to be abel to do the next raid hm on release
high fog
And I’m like pretty consistently pulling 90%+ performances on it
modern hatch
I think I would be 15% dps behind min if I were to take it into 2-2/3 rn
Thats where I feel like im at on my main 
zenith canyon
personally, as sopmebody who just started 4 months ago, i would say lost ark i...
u shouldnt aim for new raids hm's
swift tree
yall jealous
not jealous, it counts as a workaround to an issue with the game.
The fact that making multiple of the same class “beats the system” is on its own an issue with Lost Ark
wintry depot
i should aim for more dyes
wintry depot
not jealous, it counts as a workaround to an issue with the game.
The fact that ...
i agree
obtuse oyster
not jealous, it counts as a workaround to an issue with the game.
The fact that ...
real
wintry depot
i wouldve been happy if they made roster wide gems
modern hatch
i should aim for more dyes
I have loads
wintry depot
but koreans are fuckign dumbasses
obtuse oyster
gems, engravings, cost + gatekeeping mast mono rosters too good
swift tree
i wouldve been happy if they made roster wide gems
Fuck Korea for screwing everyone over for that
modern hatch
but koreans are fuckign dumbasses
No, they're good at getting what they want
And what they want is getting absolutely railed in the ass by game companitles
lunar stag
u shouldnt aim for new raids hm's
i meean, i am just saying if i keep up my pace in focusing on my main, but yes, focusing on getting 6 characters to at least 1700 would be more important then getting one character to clear hm on release
obtuse oyster
i meean, i am just saying if i keep up my pace in focusing on my main, but yes, ...
just do both
lunar stag
thaknfully they making making newer character easier soon
obtuse oyster
real
swift tree
No, they're good at getting what they want
And what they want is getting absolut...
They want everyone to be railed in the ass but a small % chance of making out big with a luck drop they can reverse RMT like it’s a rare CS:GO knife.
vague stirrup
personally, as sopmebody who just started 4 months ago, i would say lost ark i...
would be far less than that if you were allowed to just get six gold earning characters to at least 1660 for free and the rest would be pretty easy and rewarding for a long while after that
wintry depot
Can someone explain to me solo mode akkan uwu
modern hatch
Can someone explain to me solo mode akkan uwu
Press t
modern hatch
Boss die
vague stirrup
Can someone explain to me solo mode akkan uwu
kill boss
don't die to boss
uwu
modern hatch
wintry depot
Ok ty uwu
obtuse oyster
would be far less than that if you were allowed to just get six gold earning cha...
that's how you get inflation
fresh flint
Man people in stoopz chat today are fucking feral
vague stirrup
that's how you get inflation
i bet there're ways to counter that
lunar stag
i am struggling asa single earner character and a rat alt
obtuse oyster
but the ecenomy is already inflated
doesn't mean that it can't get worse
obtuse oyster
i bet there're ways to counter that <:shruge:1100304847183560726>
yeah, but making the same friction as why t3 gold earning sucks
you're just moving the bar and keeping the same issue
but instead of t3 just t4 now
swift tree
that's how you get inflation
inflation happens anyways, they need systems at the top end that encourage gold spending, not taxing everyone on their way to the newest raid
vague stirrup
yeah, but making the same friction as why t3 gold earning sucks
but the current design is literally "we cant let new players get to play quickly cause that'd backfire us with giga inflation"
obtuse oyster
inflation happens anyways, they need systems at the top end that encourage gold ...
they need both
if rice eaters weren't a thing, then not squeeze the bottomg would be fine
swift tree
An MMORPG utilising tickle-down economics is kinda crazy ngl
obtuse oyster
but the fact people will make bare minimum characters with express and just use them to print gold to funnel is 
and there's no way to stop that behaviour without gimping new players
zenith canyon
BIG Win
swift tree
but the fact people will make bare minimum characters with express and just use ...
then stop doing express events and make the game smoother to play
lunar stag
anyways, i am enjoying the game as a "new player" (not sure if 4 months is till considered new) and completely f2p
swift tree
uncut dirge
if rice eaters weren't a thing, then not squeeze the bottomg would be fine
how come this isn't a problem in literally every other mmo
lunar stag
also, one think i will say, thy need to have one expres at all time
new players starting now just going have a pain
swift tree
how come this isn't a problem in literally every other mmo
Other MMOs have content other than raids & don’t rely on gold for literally everything
obtuse oyster
how come this isn't a problem in literally every other mmo
longer time invest to get into the market to inflate and anything that can be easily done is botted
so the latter is never worth the time of the individual since a bot can do it better and the former is a time sink that many won't invest in
while lost ark, you can relatively get an account into a spot where it prints gold and resources without much investment from the express
uncut dirge
the reason other MMOs don't suffer from this problem
is that they don't fight inflation
swift tree
also, one think i will say, thy need to have one expres at all time
Story Express baked in
Improve Tier 3 QoL boom
uncut dirge
if a player earns 1000 gold per day and there are 1000 players than in a day the game gains 1 million gold
swift tree
Baked in express
uncut dirge
if the game has been around for 1000 days then you have 1 billion gold in circulation
people earning another 1 million gold only adds +0.1% more gold into the economy
therefore no actual inflation is felt by the players
zenith canyon
the reason other MMOs don't suffer from this problem
not like every mmo using gold to tap EVERY SINGLE system ingame they have 
uncut dirge
meanwhile if players earn 1000 gold and then spend 1000 gold there's 0 gold in circulation
wintry depot
My leg is bleeding
uncut dirge
after 1000 days if somehow it turns out players don't have gold sinks anymore
obtuse oyster
My leg is bleeding
go get a bandage
uncut dirge
then suddenly you start inflating 1 million gold first day, then another million the next - doubling inflation
vague stirrup
My leg is bleeding
? fix your leg wtf
wintry depot
go get a bandage
I keep reopening the wound because it annoys me than it bleeds again
wintry depot
But are you cold
Yes
swift tree
My leg is bleeding
obtuse oyster
icant
obtuse oyster
I keep reopening the wound because it annoys me than it bleeds again
it's gonna scar up if you keep doing that
instead of just healing nicely
lunar stag
well, another thing is why other mmos other then pvp mmos don't have this issue... is very simple, lost ark is the hardest mmo and most rewarding mmo in terms of raiding. A lot more people want to get into the end end game
lunar stag
i mean, they said their direction of thegame will be "diversified", i am interested to see what they meant by that
obtuse oyster
i mean, they said their direction of thegame will be "diversified", i am interes...
from 16, 8 and 4 man raids to duo raids
real
modern hatch
from 16, 8 and 4 man raids to duo raids
Powers of 2 raiding
Where 32 man raid
slender sky
all i want is the stronghold tower defense mode 
modern hatch
all i want is the stronghold tower defense mode <:blobcomfy:492211795923042304>
That sounds fun
slender sky
No, how to do that
just bleed out
wintry depot
Ok sounds nice
slender sky
if no blood left you cant bleed 
wind dagger
Duo raids lmao
turbid oriole
No, how to do that
super glue
modern hatch
when duo raids are a thing
Why? Duo dps would be faster if you dont suck
wintry depot
Duo raids would be hell for darek
I wouldnt complain about anyone except him
lunar stag
Getting a 4 man dung would be nice
wintry depot
quaint wasp
Why? Duo dps would be faster if you dont suck
1 dps 1 support
we don't have 50% of the playerbase as support slaves
yet
if duo raids are designed for double dps then all support players can quit
obtuse oyster
if duo raids are designed for double dps then all support players can quit
true courage bard 
lunar stag
i actually wonder what did people think of bahamut when it came out?
vague stirrup
I have a scar on my leg since i wa slike 8yo
im not a health specialist but if a scar from 60 years ago bleeds it's not really a good sign is it
lunar stag
good or bad?
modern hatch
i actually wonder what did people think of bahamut when it came out?
Behemoth? Garbage pf
And annoying cuz people wanted to greed dps so didn't atro wings
lunar stag
this was after thaemine but before echidna
wintry depot
im not a health specialist but if a scar from 60 years ago bleeds it's not reall...
Not the same
modern hatch
this was after thaemine but before echidna
Behe was after echi
lunar stag
wait wtf? echidna was tier 3?
wintry depot
Yes
modern hatch
She was yes
wintry depot
Behe was also t3
modern hatch
So was behe
uncut dirge
btw , do we have to do act 4 on every char
modern hatch
btw , do we have to do act 4 on every char
Yes
wintry depot
They made them t4 after t4 release
uncut dirge
to activate a core so that cores start activating immediately
insteado f being
damn, that's stupid
lunar stag
They made them t4 after t4 release
why didn't they make thaemine tier 4 too?
obtuse oyster
Behemoth? Garbage pf
And annoying cuz people wanted to greed dps so didn't atro ...
someone else will atro wings, gotta hold for head
lunar stag
hm is above 1620
wintry depot
Because thaemine got nerfed ilvl
uncut dirge
thaemine was basically like kazeros
wintry depot
Its not 1630 anymore
uncut dirge
ilvl requirement was way above what people reasonably were at
obtuse oyster
damn, that's stupid
make sense
uncut dirge
basically to squeeze whales
obtuse oyster
how would a character that can't access ark grid have all the cores unlocked
uncut dirge
yes so you make new character
with event pass
and the character is fucked for like 2 months
lunar stag
hmm, weird,. becaue as some people said, us getting tier 5 is very unlikely for the net year
so like
uncut dirge
hmm, weird,. becaue as some people said, us getting tier 5 is very unlikely for ...
whether it's tier 5
or tier 4.2 doesn't matter, it's the same thing
lunar stag
we will not have a thaemine or a kazeros to end tier 4?
uncut dirge
tier 4 isn't real tier 4 either - it's just tier 3.5 or something
uncut dirge
we will not have a thaemine or a kazeros to end tier 4?
well it could be
lunar stag
tier 4 isn't real tier 4 either - it's just tier 3.5 or something
kinda of true yeah
uncut dirge
they can give us tier 5 by just giving us a new continent
we do the quests, then get tier 5 gear from there and next raid is tier 5
midnight drift
next year they will give Trancendence 2.0, use Brel pantsu as material - mark my words cuz I predicted Elixir 2.0 last year and we have Arkgrid
lunar stag
you transfer gear and gems to new tiers i feel like that is fine
although i do understand that it feels arbitrary power spik?
and it makes older raids obelete
uncut dirge
assgems take so much inventory space
lunar stag
assgems take so much inventory space
dismentle
uncut dirge
they just come back after i do chaos/guardian again
lunar stag
you can auto dismantle the greens
zenith canyon
setup dismantle for useless greeeeeeeens
wintry depot
@fresh flint @neon cedar @slender sky kitty madge
slender sky
next year they will give Trancendence 2.0, use Brel pantsu as material - mark my...
astrogems are nothing like elixirs tho, ppl are quick to forget how shit original elixirs were, you literally had to learn specific tactics to use at specific turns left to even make it happen, thats what made them so cancer
neon cedar
Pet da cat. Stop playing games
slender sky
<@196481929057402880> <@202959015641219072> <@670000375872487458> kitty madge
wut da cat doing
wintry depot
wut da cat doing
she likes to sleep on my keyboard
slender sky
<@196481929057402880> <@202959015641219072> <@670000375872487458> kitty madge
how can you have your keyboard so bright, my eyes start to hurt
wintry depot
Pet da cat. Stop playing games
BUT MA CHAOS
wintry depot
how can you have your keyboard so bright, my eyes start to hurt <:KEKW:834726120...
i have lights in my room, its not that bright
and im too lazy to personalyze ngl
neon cedar
Who cares about chaos dungeon 1573 when you can pet da cat
lunar stag
astrogems are nothing like elixirs tho, ppl are quick to forget how shit origina...
tbh, i think cutting the astrogems is the least bad thing about ark grid, its getting supp cores on a dps character for no reason
slender sky
i turned mine off entirely, my eyes started to hurt 30min after using it
lunar stag
and cores being very random
zenith canyon
imagine getting dps cores only for supps
slender sky
BUT MA CHAOS
let da cat do chaos
lunar stag
the pity at 200 feels very rough
zenith canyon
the pity at 200 feels very rough
its just here to tell u its "possible"
wintry depot
Who cares about chaos dungeon 1573 when you can pet da cat
she doesnt want to be pet, she wants to lay on keyboard and i leave her alone
lunar stag
yeah, intead of pity, let us fuse cores and we get random cores
instead of relic brand power core sitting on my zerker
zenith canyon
wtf is this
zenith canyon
nah, its cube
lunar stag
supp dps supp paladin lmao
lunar stag
nvm player 2 is a orc?
zenith canyon
only me doing dmg here
lunar stag
i still don't know every class icon
zenith canyon
nvm player 2 is a orc?
bozo
formal frost
damn sorc is a supp class now? /s
robust acorn
<@196481929057402880> <@202959015641219072> <@670000375872487458> kitty madge
my cat used to disrupt me during prog
"gimme attention"
dies on mech
zenith canyon
damn sorc is a supp class now? /s
welp doing less than 20% cube dmg? kinda yeah
paper scroll
imagine getting dps cores only for supps <:KEKW:834726120606924850>
Imagine getting sup only cores as DPS
formal frost
progging before feeding time cats 
im 5 minutes late
zenith canyon
Imagine getting sup only cores as DPS
u would be dps valk only, but nah
lunar stag
tbh, dps valk is kinda of insane
devout nymph
above average in the chart, not top tier
uncut dirge
man valkyrie stagger is so bad
wintry depot
my cat used to disrupt me during prog
she always comes in front on my screen and put her ass in my face
zenith canyon
man valkyrie stagger is so bad
this
lunar stag
man valkyrie stagger is so bad
i thought we should be getting buffed to that?
paper scroll
she doesnt want to be pet, she wants to lay on keyboard and i leave her alone
She wants on keyboard coz ur typing is making annoying sounds so she stops u from typing by laying on kb
paper scroll
man valkyrie stagger is so bad
Patch coming to increase stagger
paper scroll
she always comes in front on my screen and put her ass in my face
That’s flirting
paper scroll
tbh, dps valk is kinda of insane
It’s insane the more dr and b.s boss does that allows u to shadowsword
wintry depot
she has a giga resting bitch face
paper scroll
because im annoying too
What do u do that’s annoying
robust acorn
she always comes in front on my screen and put her ass in my face
this lil shit likes to sit on my stomach and push me down
lunar stag
from what i heard, 2-2 2-3 moves a lot and makes valkyrie players cry
dps ones at least
wintry depot
What do u do that’s annoying
idk, myself
wintry depot
this lil shit likes to sit on my stomach and push me down
awwww kittykittykitty
lmao he looks so mad
XD
robust acorn
he likes to be spoiled a lot
wintry depot
like my male
formal frost
make a party of all valks and a party of soulfists, who misses more
tulip charm
wtf are these mokoko tokens shitters doing in lobby finder, they host the lobby and only accepting 1730s at brel? the fk
i am not even exaggerating
wintry depot
VALKS NEVER STANDS IN MY BUFF
devout nymph
VALKS NEVER STANDS IN MY BUFF
YOUR BUFF DOESNT STAND INSIDE VALKS
formal frost
alts rosters wanting carries
lunar stag
wtf are these mokoko tokens shitters doing in lobby finder, they host the lobby ...
lmao
devout nymph
lunar stag
i can't i am dying
vague stirrup
wtf are these mokoko tokens shitters doing in lobby finder, they host the lobby ...
12 hw fast run (mokoko afk)
wintry depot
YOUR BUFF DOESNT STAND INSIDE VALKS
THEY GO BACK OUTSIDE JUST TO USE THEIR FUCKING X
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
lunar stag
the mokoko scarcity is the funniest shit i've seen in this game, one mokoko straight up get 20 aplics LMAO
vague stirrup
YOUR BUFF DOESNT STAND INSIDE VALKS
you want me to place my buffs inside valk?..
paper scroll
idk, myself
???
wintry depot
what
vague stirrup
idk, myself
pause
paper scroll
wtf are these mokoko tokens shitters doing in lobby finder, they host the lobby ...
Coz there’s 1740s there to carry why settle for sub 1730
lunar stag
alts rosters wanting carries
i thought alt rosters don't get mokoko status or lack of it it applies for your entire server no?
vague stirrup
Coz there’s 1740s there to carry why settle for sub 1730
I'll carry nbrel for any mokoko out there, no effort required on their behalf, for a humble price of 20k gold
paper scroll
THEY GO BACK OUTSIDE JUST TO USE THEIR FUCKING X
U gotta predict where they are gonna stand for their X
lunar stag
I'll carry nbrel for any mokoko out there, no effort required on their behalf, f...
you are the one that needs to pay them for the mokoko tokens
paper scroll
I'll carry nbrel for any mokoko out there, no effort required on their behalf, f...
Ever since the mokoko token my alts have to waste 2 hrs in lobby finder to get a nm aegir kek
vague stirrup
you are the one that needs to pay them for the mokoko tokens
nah id skip
zenith canyon
Ever since the mokoko token my alts have to waste 2 hrs in lobby finder to get a...
who tf does norm aegir
paper scroll
who tf does norm aegir
I do cos I need more expert tokens to buy out roster bound shop shit
paper scroll
the mokoko scarcity is the funniest shit i've seen in this game, one mokoko str...
That’s y they need to change it to any character sub x combat score = mokoko icon and not just new players
tulip charm
mfkers, i am GLAD!
vague stirrup
mfkers, i am GLAD!
imagine having 3c chars and jailing
lunar stag
by the way, who the f buying this scam?
vague stirrup
me
lunar stag
30 tokens? in this token wasteland?
paper scroll
by the way, who the f buying this scam?
I buying coz I got alot of tokens
Coz I did nm aegir lmfao
On all my alts
modern hatch
by the way, who the f buying this scam?
I did lol
modern hatch
Just gotta camp lobby finder for many hrs
I was busy getting railed in the new raids
neon cedar
by the way, who the f buying this scam?
60 tokens is nothing. Not a bad deal when you can buy 1 for 43k
lunar stag
this one has the green ones tho lmao
neon cedar
Idk, when a single NM Mordum gives 90 tokens spending 60 a week seems fine to me
uncut dirge
i did 9.4k stagger with valkyrie in this normal mode
because the rest of my team's stagger sucked
so i put on 3 overwhelm runes, took vital point hit too
vagrant cradle
uncut dirge
as i said valk stagger is really bad
modern hatch
Valk stagger is a joke lmfao
celest tiger
so good dps, bad stagger?
modern hatch
Basically
tulip charm
60 tokens is nothing. Not a bad deal when you can buy 1 for 43k
that 43k cost is a rip off, i bought it once and i feel dirty, never buying that again
neon cedar
Big rip off
celest tiger
rip'd
tulip charm
some people think its good value, maybe it is if your rushing to finish grid, i need the gold
lunar stag
i did 9.4k stagger with valkyrie in this normal mode
i asumed you meant kazeros here?
celest tiger
why everything so expensive 
lunar stag
because what stagger does mordum need? in normal, other then the stage break
i don't think he evendoes grab in normal
uncut dirge
i asumed you meant kazeros here?
yes
lunar stag
oh ok, i mean
mortal burrow
i think he does do grab in nm
vague stirrup
still lose to a casual reaper
reaper can take off poison and bleed in favor of overwhelms too
infinite utility
lunar stag
what's the point of bleed and poison? just dot damage?
modern hatch
what's the point of bleed and poison? just dot damage?
Free dps
vague stirrup
what's the point of bleed and poison? just dot damage?
dot damage, each can get up to like 1-1.5% of your total damage
viscid sand
dot damage and helps you track some bosses through their disappearance acts
fresh flint
cockle saydung
slender sky
slender sky
https://tenor.com/view/starwhocouldfly-rigby-cat-rigby-silly-cat-stupid-cat-gif-15385366713072989704
tulip charm
A lot of players still on, on reset day, people trying to last minute normal I guess
neon cedar
Does anyone know what Chuans char name was?
late portal
Snauhc maybe
fresh flint
I could tell you it was him if I saw the name
But I don’t remember it
He plays deadeye
late portal
swift tree
Does anyone know what Chuans char name was?
I could tell you if I bothered to login, he's also on Innana
neon cedar
Thats his NAE roster. He mains NAW and there was a merge
swift tree
Thats his NAE roster. He mains NAW and there was a merge
oof
oh right
iirc I got the other one as well
neon cedar
I could tell you it was him if I saw the name
Was it Feedie? 
that sounds so familier
fresh flint
Was it Feedie? <:monkaHmm:852993226285776897> that sounds so familier
I don’t think so
slender sky
https://tenor.com/view/emoji-foot-wave-emoji-foot-wave-foot-wave-gif-53118869970...
too much
neon cedar
It was chuan
slender sky
more people online few hours before reset than entire last week
neon cedar
My friend just clear HM Kaz with him lmao
swift tree
this lil shit likes to sit on my stomach and push me down
looks like they're about to warn you the dangers of diabeetus
fresh flint
My friend just clear HM Kaz with him lmao
Did your friend mention anything about how arrogant or annoying he is?
Because chuan in raid mode is a whole nother game mode
neon cedar
No hes just excited to clear and good for them
queen grail
Erm, 
I changed and did this.
fresh flint
Frankly surprised he still plays
obtuse oyster
modern hatch
30% self-crit <a:nom_rat:855182481975410739>
Not perma tho kekw
queen grail
Also, It's "Perma" During our rotation 
@modern hatch Since the rotation is fixed.
zenith canyon
modern hatch
Also, It's "Perma" During our rotation <:xdd:1086399274046193755> <@215159854342...
Yes I know how wd works
queen grail
FRIEREN S2 TRAILER DROPPED
I just finished the last episode, today, 30min ago.
queen grail
Yes I know how wd works
modern hatch
https://tenor.com/view/oopsie-oops-oops-sorry-gif-8365536587490118065
Imagine not getting 30% crit for existing like zerk and slayer
queen grail
@neon cedar
queen grail
Imagine not getting 30% crit for existing like zerk and slayer
But, in one of those cases you have to play, as a zerker.
neon cedar
Why must you rage bait me like this
modern hatch
<:think:838069227918721024> But, in one of those cases you have to play, as a ze...
True
queen grail
Why must you rage bait me like this
Ragebait? 
I have no silver.
I'm spending it all on ticket's.
neon cedar
Get gems!!!!
queen grail
neon cedar
aaaa
queen grail
Get gems!!!!
ALSO FUCK NO 
queen grail
https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-cat-gif-13442248839884771180
The amount of gem's I'd need to buy is 6 at least that alone is 2,7 million
neon cedar
You probably have 10m right now
neon cedar
YES!! Buy gems. Youll drop 200k in 30 chaos dungeons in the next 2 weeks and youll forget you ever spent gold
queen grail
If they can just, you know, not be fucking 500 million per book
wooden cairn
Where can I find shared skin dyes? The share dye channel in this server is rarely used
queen grail
Well, no more silver, hopefully I keep my rank.
neon cedar
Where can I find shared skin dyes? The share dye channel in this server is rarel...
That is the place to go to. Or try to browse Inven if you can figure it out.
Just scroll back and you can look for color combos you like
neon cedar
Mine some gems
queen grail
Mine some gems
turbid oriole
?reset
tawny gateBOT
reset local time: <t:1762250400:t>
reset local time: <t:1762250400:t>
Weekly reset is on Wednesday server time.
kind oriole
turbid oriole
<:ree:1399144863529701487> I already did, I gave it to my valk.
hello norway
is it like perma nighttime now
neon cedar
Google says they have ~5 hours of sunlight 
turbid oriole
neon cedar
Not much less than us
queen grail
Almost 200k @neon cedar
slender sky
queen grail
hello norway
It's, not that bad south Norway but ye far north norway is perma dark pretty much.
queen grail
Google says they have ~5 hours of sunlight <:DESPAIR:979279856024055828>
North Norway has 0 sun in winter, 15 Jan they will get sun again
turbid oriole
neon cedar
That sounds awful
queen grail
3/5
queen grail
That sounds awful
I mean, there's a pretty big % of depression etc there and even south Norway a lot of people take suplement D vita
But, It's still winter "sun" and pretty there
neon cedar
I can imagine. Same thing happens here so its probably just worse there
queen grail
Also no sun =/= perma dark
neon cedar
Google says the lowest we get is 9 hours of daylight which is more than I thought tbh But you spend 8 1/2 of those at work
neon cedar
Looks very pretty
queen grail
Not the best but, activated one.
queen grail
Looks very pretty
Winter can be pretty, but ye, here too it's dark quite early here, according to data sun starts creeping up at 08:40 morning and goes down 15:50
queen grail
soon season 2
wintry depot
I can imagine. Same thing happens here so its probably just worse there
its that bad in toronto?
i know in montreal it smostly sunny in winter
way more than fall at least
wintry depot
<:yep:755582887914373120> Winter can be pretty, but ye, here too it's dark quite...
yeah us too, its dark before 16
neon cedar
Idk if its "that bad" but it is at least a thing
queen grail
neon cedar
~8 here
wintry depot
prob same
tulip charm
<:Looking:1222262916665839616>
where is the 3rd amber
steel onyx
It's crazy to think we have less than 500 clears of this raid
And it's the weekly reset already
queen grail
It's crazy to think we have less than 500 clears of this raid
Almost like it's not tuned well for the gearscore "req"
tulip charm
It's crazy to think we have less than 500 clears of this raid
Sounds about right, that’s kind what happens when they release 4 new raids at the exact same time during thanksgiving holidays
steel onyx
And that's not 417 unique teams to clear
It's probs half of that cause I know people who have 5+ clear achivements
tulip charm
<:think:838069227918721024> Almost like it's not tuned well for the gearscore "r...
Still not sure what the gear score req even is
steel onyx
A good guess would be around 200 unique groups or <1k players who have cleared HM
tulip charm
That's the req.
That’s bullshit
steel onyx
1730 with korean experience and ark grid enabled yes
queen grail
That’s bullshit
No, that's that you need to enter, gearscore, 
I'm not talking Combat Score.
steel onyx
to clear its a whole different story
tulip charm
I’ve seen people auto decline 2800 or lower for final act, I wouldn’t take anybody even around 2k for act4 week 2, some people auto rej people under 3k for final act, honestly I have no idea, seems all over the place
queen grail
Hench, badly tuned raid, because you "need" around 3k++ Combat Power to have a fair chance to do it and that's far from the average on 1730 people.
queen grail
I’ve seen people auto decline 2800 or lower for final act, I wouldn’t take anybo...
Combat power =/= Gear Score
Gearscore. Combat Power.
mortal burrow
I’ve seen people auto decline 2800 or lower for final act, I wouldn’t take anybo...
yeah.. 2k for act 4 hm is rough..
unless if they have hands
but u cant tell with people..
queen grail
yeah.. 2k for act 4 hm is rough..
2k is more than fine for Hard Act 4 huh
mortal burrow
<:think:838069227918721024> 2k is more than fine for Hard Act 4 huh
it's just like if one mistake happens and if people are around 2000
it's rough
a little higher provides more leeway if someone dies like a dumbass
actually
it might have been b/c i progged later during the week
queen grail
it's just like if one mistake happens and if people are around 2000
I mean, we had a grp where everyone was pretty much 2k, one was 2,5k and we cleared fine, act 4 is more comfortable than hard kaz by a mile and a half.
mortal burrow
and i was left with the shithole
steel onyx
Combat power =/= Gear Score
Gearscore. Combat Power.
I've seen people who are 1730 at 2.1k
I'm not sure how they expect to clear
queen grail
I've seen people who are 1730 at 2.1k
No one is saying 2,1k should be enough but 1730 median is around 2,5k and this dungeon is more tuned towards the 3,5k and that's a huge difference.
wintry depot
aaaaaaaaa fuckign clipping
mortal burrow
but yeah... @queen grail i've had bad experiences with people at 2k cp
but could have been a few bad instances
stares at the di sh doing 150m before they die 10 minutes in
wintry depot
well i guess it stays on babyarna
mortal burrow
at 2.1k gs
neon cedar
aaaaaaaaa fuckign clipping
That top is so nice tho. I gotta get it for a char
wintry depot
That top is so nice tho. I gotta get it for a char
yessss
paper scroll
It’s simple the worse the group is the higher they need to gatekeep cp
kind oriole
For me personaly g2 too hard, gonna wait full frontier nerf, and maybe some others nerfs from KR
wintry depot
she just needs a weap
kind oriole
mortal burrow
For me personaly g2 too hard, gonna wait full frontier nerf, and maybe some othe...
kaz?
fresh flint
that weapon is cute
wintry depot
hm i need to change colors a bit
fresh flint
leave it
wintry depot
well next reset
wintry depot
I like my aero outfit still so maybe its a sorc/summoner angle
i dont know if i like it on bigger char tbh XD
idk
fresh flint
Just do nm g2 until they nerf it
mortal burrow
It’s simple the worse the group is the higher they need to gatekeep cp
i mean it kinda depends if people at lower cp can do minimum...
paper scroll
Arna = Tall chick cosplaying midget chick fantasy
kind oriole
That what i do Kaz g1 hm and g2 nm lol
mortal burrow
a bunch of people in experience cannot do minimum in armoche for w/e reason
kind oriole
mortal burrow
Arna = Tall chick cosplaying midget chick fantasy
what the..
queen grail
<@217042711847501827> SHE DID FUCKING
sheesh, I mean, gs, I'm sure she just need a lot of time to adjust to the fuckery
wintry depot
shes cute
mortal burrow
<:think:838069227918721024> sheesh, I mean, gs, I'm sure she just need a lot of ...
o i meant
gearscore
paper scroll
i mean it kinda depends if people at lower cp can do minimum...
It’s more about if group is bad they need high cp to carry dps otherwise they cannot pass
mortal burrow
actually nvm
celest tiger
neon cedar
I gotta log in again to check my fits
paper scroll
i just need a reskin ticket :)
In gw2 there’s a unlimited reskin ticket u can buy, they need this in la just for u
queen grail
Honestly, G2-3 seems the "easiest" out of the 3.
wintry depot
its already good that now, the reskin ticket is 24h...
at the beginning it wasnt the case
idk how mnay reskin tickets i bought
mortal burrow
It’s more about if group is bad they need high cp to carry dps otherwise they ca...
that is true
wintry depot
and i dont want to know
mortal burrow
and that's why the pleader kept replacing after a bunch of pulls if people were not even close to minimum
worldly wedge
highly doubt i can find someone but if you're stuck in a g2 morde nm/hm, we have a group!
paper scroll
at the beginning it wasnt the case
In beginning I got mega tilted coz I choice wrong voice on my sorc
mortal burrow
like maybe below 200m or w/e
wintry depot
i was playing ru
mortal burrow
its already good that now, the reskin ticket is 24h...
o ye
mortal burrow
dont they allow u to reskin a char when u make it for 24 hours?
mortal burrow
that's really nice
paper scroll
i was playing ru
Do u speak Ruski?
wintry depot
dont they allow u to reskin a char when u make it for 24 hours?
yes
neon cedar
i dont know if i like it on bigger char tbh XD
Im still using an old ark pass skin. Its kind of similar to that new top
wintry depot
Im still using an old ark pass skin. Its kind of similar to that new top
i dont have it :(
neon cedar
Thats unfortunate. Its good
tulip charm
we miss that face
I miss mage neck
sand marsh
stfu zheng
i miss mage neck
wintry depot
stfu baldboi
tulip charm
🦒
neon cedar
I think i have both versions of it because my JS char merged into my roster
paper scroll
i miss mage neck
In Africa long neck is sign of beauty
sand marsh
deadge
wintry depot
i mean she still has long neck
neon cedar
I do, nice
paper scroll
Also giraffes are considered beautiful and graceful and they have giga neck
wintry depot
another one to the collection
neon cedar
Because the goofy hats are laughing at you
I havent changed my chars outfits in so long. I have so many good options
wintry depot
aaaaaaaaaaaaaa im frooooooooozzeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
paper scroll
Big ed is considered ugly coz he had short neck
neon cedar
Black screen streamin
wintry depot
xdddd
wait ill go in my friend sh
my pc almost crash everytime i go there
its a very fitting name
paper scroll
my pc almost crash everytime i go there
Verify game files fixed that for me
neon cedar
Run 1 crucible 1 and be done ez
paper scroll
ah shit i gotta do paradise on infinite chars
I wish I had infinite characters to do paradise on
wintry depot
Verify game files fixed that for me
its not that
my pc is just shit
XDD
oh right
tulip charm
Black screen streamin
That’s for next week when you can do paradise keys agains
sand marsh
I could gift a 3080ti....
wintry depot
i didnt do paradise on my alrs
sand marsh
hmm....
wintry depot
fuck
quaint wasp
13 characters to be exact
I did it on 30
paper scroll
my pc is just shit
What’s ur pc specs
quaint wasp
wintry depot
What’s ur pc specs
ryzen 7 2700x gtx 1070
paper scroll
ryzen 7 2700x gtx 1070
Cooked
sand marsh
ew
tulip charm
ryzen 7 2700x gtx 1070
wintry depot
ill upgrade one day xdd
paper scroll
1070 is rat territory
tulip charm
This game can run on a 1070?
slender sky
ryzen 7 2700x gtx 1070
dont need to flex with your wealth like that
wintry depot
my bf has a 1060...
paper scroll
Ur bf is homeless?
wintry depot
@neon cedar are you ready to laugh ?
sand marsh
lmaoooo
slender sky
This game can run on a 1070?
i had a gtx960 when i started and i could play
neon cedar
<@202959015641219072> are you ready to laugh ?
Yes
quaint wasp
paper scroll
I had 1070 like 10 yrs ago
wintry depot
ok but i dont work and pc parts are mad expensive here
wintry depot
oh actually
paper scroll
ok but i dont work and pc parts are mad expensive here
How get money for survive?
neon cedar
That wasnt so bad. I even pulled up a timer and it was 25 seconds
wintry depot
xdddddddddddddddddddddddd
neon cedar
I get worse at my own sh
wintry depot
could be worse
paper scroll
I have m.2 and la still loads show af
wintry depot
i think its this theme that is fucked
neon cedar
Its fun but weak decorations 3/10
The name tho is very funny
wintry depot
dont bully my friend :(
neon cedar
I respect all SH enjoyers. A decorated stronghold is a 10/10 to start
wintry depot
idk which one that was really pretty
wise pasture
wintry depot
this one is cute
wise pasture
go to bed
neon cedar
Nice simple but well decorated 6/10
vagrant cradle
wintry depot
brb i go give pill to kitty
wintry depot
she was meowing at me since like 30mins XD
this one simple too
but still cute
i think i just like this theme xdd
neon cedar
I like it
wintry depot
it takes good screenshots
obtuse oyster
This game can run on a 1070?
yea
wintry depot
yeaaah
steel onyx
I used to play this game on a laptop that has a i5-8th gen and 1050
wintry depot
i think everyone uses it xDD
paper scroll
Zheng guo ren?
neon cedar
This one has some random stuff but its nice. I always like a nice seating area by the chef
wintry depot
oh nvm i cant give u my 3080ti
its not worth anyway sending parts from the us to canada, shipping will be like 300$ XD
obtuse oyster
its not worth anyway sending parts from the us to canada, shipping will be like ...
still a steal
celest tiger
don't think i've ever paid more than $150 👀
sand marsh
its not worth anyway sending parts from the us to canada, shipping will be like ...
no its not 300 to ship to canada
ive sold many parts across country before lol
wintry depot
depends where the person lives
celest tiger
oh shipping
wintry depot
its extra expensive where i live
celest tiger
😅
sand marsh
i live in a decent area
wintry depot
naaaaaaa
obtuse oyster
a 3080ti is like 350
wintry depot
icy did try to send a gpu form us to canada and ikt was like 200 something
fresh flint
when was the last tim,e you sold
wintry depot
@nova garden furry
sand marsh
when was the last tim,e you sold
me?
wintry depot
yeah that also
tulip charm
How much is a 4080 right now?
sand marsh
oh thats a good point
neon cedar
Maybe its cheap to ship now. This could be the big upgrade you need
fresh flint
fucked prices bad
sand marsh
2 years ago
fresh flint
yeah
wintry depot
but if you want to send it to me, feel free
tulip charm
And can you even buy them? Or still all scalped out
wintry depot
i dont have the 50$ to spend on shipping tho xdd
tulip charm
150% tarrifs
Will be even more soon
wintry depot
never
tulip charm
wintry depot
your dream
it snot about politics, i just dont want to get fat like americans
wait thats not better
OUPSI
sand marsh
woah woah
tulip charm
better get used to it
China gonna make USA part of China soon
tulip charm
wintry depot
ok this one is empty
i guess i liked for the feast or something
AH
IT LOADED
XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
idk
nova garden
<@344303345466343425> furry
i'm not a furry
sand marsh
wintry depot
maybe a bit too much big trees?
tulip charm
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1287213147266093098/1299372176750805013/c...
I need this printed on a shirt or jacket
nova garden
icy did try to send a gpu form us to canada and ikt was like 200 something
and i didn't send anything. someone "gifted" me a gpu from canada to usa. was just shy of 300
sand marsh
and i didn't send anything. someone "gifted" me a gpu from canada to usa. was ju...
"gifted"
nova garden
wintry depot
when was it again
nova garden
not furry pics
nova garden
and it was a gpu and a psu as well
quaint wasp
racism
not racism but I've yet to meet a chinese whale/chinese sounding name with hands
with insane gear yes
wonder if they're actually playing from china
quaint wasp
<@212378747293270026> Ill use this opportunity to show off my masterpiece
what mood is this
neon cedar
What a true 10/10 feels like
neon cedar
what mood is this
neon cedar
I want to get the new Full Moon Palace one to try it out but its 160k
sand marsh
fresh flint
<:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
whale
neon cedar
Oooooo i could sell my stored gems to but the new theme
neon cedar
No way. There are 2 themes and I need em first
fresh flint
neon cedar
Also Chris behold for no real reason
#lost-ark-discussions message
7s are 155k ez new theme
queen grail
WhyTho
vagrant cradle
endless logging
neon cedar
Amazing isnt it?
gilded forge
?honing
neon cedar
?advhoning
tawny gateBOT
Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+14 -> 1-10 -> +16 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-30 -> 31-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
- Honing to +20/31-40 are comparable in cost but with normal honing you're gambling with 1.5% odds and advanced honing provides 3% base stats. Because of this finishing advanced honing first is recommended.
tulip charm
<a:sadge:1005091937600155768> WhyTho
Gratz? I think, not sure if this is usable
tulip charm
oh wow
those that cleared needs to sell their gems immediately
so i can finally reach 3k on my main
tulip charm
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453410151119192074/1442577125759520908/no...
doubt, they can't even start the race
already dqed
neon cedar
We get a new core slot tomorrow, right? We dont have to reclear act 4 or anything for it, right?
tulip charm
We get a new core slot tomorrow, right? We dont have to reclear act 4 or anythin...
not sure, but i think it just auto unlocks without needing to raid for it ye
slender sky
slender sky
We get a new core slot tomorrow, right? We dont have to reclear act 4 or anythin...
should be auto ye
like crucible levels
neon cedar
Good good tho I need to cut more astrogems for it
slender sky
slender sky
Good good tho I need to cut more astrogems for it
cant wait to fill a 2nd purple core
neon cedar
You already have?
You dont have another random core sitting around to use?
queen grail
You dont have another random core sitting around to use?
Njaa
I don't have the tiny ones to activate them
neon cedar
Im using a generic crit damage one rn. I got generic atk power & wp ones and A meh class one to use
Its not min/max or anything but its something
slender sky
Im using a generic crit damage one rn. I got generic atk power & wp ones and A m...
even that shit gave 31cp
swift tree
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
I swear when they added double rewards they gave them a visual update
queen grail
I can't get over how memo says "Visiology" @neon cedar in his guide, for when he's saying "Better vision"
tulip charm
6 more hours until Hell opens
i am ready to get at least 5 black screens per purple key
uncut dirge
armoche is so horribly designed
kazeros itself might be alright but
the 2-2 thing is just frustrating
but armoche is just horribly designed as a fight
modern hatch
the 2-2 thing is just frustrating
You dont like a 40m raid???
tulip charm
but armoche is just horribly designed as a fight
when you take a shit at night you gotta be ready to just guard
uncut dirge
but at least 2-1 oesn't feel horrible
meanwhile armoche does
mostly because even once you get through all the bs the hard part starts
and more damage completely negates it
i just hate that idea
tulip charm
idk, its a cool looking boss
midnight marlin
aerroon cant press g
uncut dirge
i even explicitly said what the issue is
lets put all of the difficulty of the boss into the final phase
oh yeah and if you overgear you can just completely skip it
neon cedar
The final phase isnt even that hard. Its just pattern recognition and like any raid the final phase is where you spend the least time learning
static jay
Armoche is my favorite raid in the game. I think it's the best designed fight since Valtan