only requires act 4 hm clear
#lost-ark-discussions
sand marsh
vague stirrup
1740 main, trying to get roster to 1710 next week since I expect kaz to be open so need x6 kaz
Then debating between a particular alt 1720>1730 or some other alt 1710>1720
Likely the latter tho cause aint no wei I'm getting away with hm kaz on alt before stage 1 or 0, I barely managed to justify having it at 1720 this week for a4 
sand marsh
i mean if you are months into kazeros without 1740 idk what ur doing
shrug
even chanderlin has a 1740 on ru and this man is a casual
obtuse oyster
brother is not a casual
vague stirrup
like crazy
obtuse oyster
please stop talking out your ass
zenith canyon
1740 casual 
obtuse oyster
no casual is bussing
sand marsh
fair
anyone can do that tho
snooze ya loose, idk
ags aint gonna listen to y'all
get in early or get in late
obtuse oyster
they don't need too
vague stirrup
anyone can do that tho
90% playerbase barely has hands to hold their own weight dude
sand marsh
then 90% shouldnt be thinking about hm kaz anyways
stick to normal mode
there's many people that play witin there means. only doing solo mode, only doing normal mode
just cuz u can hit the ilvl dont mean u can do it
vague stirrup
Not how humans work, they're here to consume the product and the current actively marketed product is kazeros
And it's in smilegate's own interest to keep the balance of how much they give out vs how much they demand from you as a player
obtuse oyster
Not how humans work, they're here to consume the product and the current activel...
Nah, shorely elitism is the way. Definitely isn't part of a problem that eventually kills any niche game
vague stirrup
If the entirety of the playerbase riots, says this is fomo bullshit that only causes burnout and quits
That's not good
Missed profit and lost players
And I really have no idea why x5 hm titles are not a thing lol, it would be a good point between abyssal shitters who are a gamble to take into a 1600-1800cp lobby and lord of floorpovs
rn im forced to skip potentially decent players cause most of people they're similar to are trying to get a free bus at best
and will grief the shit out of my run at worst
vague stirrup
Nah, shorely elitism is the way. Definitely isn't part of a problem that eventua...
we love making an already exhausted playerbase even more stressed 
obtuse oyster
we love making an already exhausted playerbase even more stressed <:wahoo:128872...
yep, just friction added on top of friction.
sand marsh
x5 hm title would be a good thing but it doesn't exist. So go for the title if you want too. If not you can play with x10 andies.
tawny lion
im getting annoyed when i apply to lobbies i forget im in chaos build. is there a way to set your raid build as default in cities
obtuse oyster
nope
zenith canyon
obtuse oyster
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
midnight marlin
im suffering
swift tree
x5 hm title would be a good thing but it doesn't exist. So go for the title if y...
Or just play something else until the floor rises
sand marsh
Or just play something else until the floor rises
that too
where winds meet is pretty good
swift tree
not like nov 19 is a content dought
zenith canyon
another card
tulip charm
we love making an already exhausted playerbase even more stressed <:wahoo:128872...
i feel fatigued
and i am usually pretty resistant to fatigue for this game
quaint wasp
>90% playerbase barely has hands to hold their own weight dude
Do we really want these deadweights in the player pool tho
They make raids harder and more toxic
Increasing burnout
tulip charm
Do we really want these deadweights in the player pool tho
i mean, why is that considered deadweight? not everybody can be 1755 3500cs auto banned kaz the first reject racers
as long as they stick to the difficulty they can do, why is that a problem?
quaint wasp
Its players who dont have the hands to hold their own weight
tulip charm
so just do normal
quaint wasp
Our playerbase tanked in brel cause too many imposters
zenith canyon
btw if u -90% players ur game is DEAD
tulip charm
quaint wasp
If brel 1.0 was smooth
tulip charm
as long as they are not entitled to think they deserve to do hm on min ilevel min cs min brain min hands, i don't have an issue
quaint wasp
btw if u -90% players ur game is DEAD
At this point ye
If we had been able to cull the handless people in brel 1.0
We would have prob stabilized at 30k ccu
tulip charm
We would have prob stabilized at 30k ccu
na, could have easily stabilied in the 100k>150k player base range, not even copium
but AGS did ags stuff
tbf ags did alot of good things recently, recently as in the past 6months
but they mismanaged so badly in the early stages of the games it was a absolute fking joke
feels like most of the ags decisions they made ever since matt came on board have been pretty good
tawny lion
that's because zooming park was an SG shill and did 0 effort to localize the game to western player base. he just wanted to force the west to be like korea
what's crazy is soomin founded a new company that's goal is to promote korean games on a global level... despite his direct experience being a complete failure
swift tree
Our playerbase tanked in brel cause too many imposters
our playerbase tanked because of the raid fatigue of doing a 6x Prokel fights per week
And then feeling punished for not having enough time to clear 5-6 for extra gold
tulip charm
our playerbase tanked because of the raid fatigue of doing a 6x Prokel fights pe...
a littlebit maybe, don't forget to promote making 6x roster chars on entry into the game
every new player 3 years later coming back "hi, returning player here, do i still need to play 6 characters???!!!!!!!!!!?!!!!!!!!!!"""
most asked question
swift tree
a littlebit maybe, don't forget to promote making 6x roster chars on entry into...
well there was no solo, no paradise, shit una gold and guild pvp. You either got carried in a large guild, carried lowbies so they turn up to GvG or quit
tawny lion
it's hard to say no to that question with a straight face. technically u can play one. but taking 10 weeks to get the newest raid title is going to be one painful g0 experience
zenith canyon
- Do i need 6chars, 2. WHAT IS BIS?
tulip charm
1. Do i need 6chars, 2. WHAT IS BIS? <:KEKW:834726120606924850>
to answer the question, yes, you need 3 alt roster and 36 alts to play the game
and what is bis? make a specialist char
zenith canyon
naaah its 100% DB
quaint wasp
If you dont have alts dont complain about book and gems prices ngl
wind dagger
@swift tree did you clear kazeros yet
swift tree
<@113554204676685824> did you clear kazeros yet
no
dont even have the right setup for Act 4
viscid sand
right setup? 
swift tree
missing karma etc.
viscid sand
rip
swift tree
skipping "rush week" and just doing other shit between now and december update
zenith canyon
missing karma etc.
eh if ur at 1500++ its fine
cinder mango
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z-i7bpdXLI
Why is it not interesting?
muted spade
Does WW work on gate 1 Kaz 700x stag
quiet flower
Does WW work on gate 1 Kaz 700x stag
Yes
muted spade
Okay
quiet flower
But shouldn't be needed
swift tree
Why is it not interesting?
?
cinder mango
yesa
quiet flower
We love rolling on alts
smoky crow
what was base willpower?
quiet flower
10 I think
smoky crow
then that's kinda useless
cinder mango
you mean no cool design or meh raid?
not good music
tulip charm
We love rolling on alts
is this even usable?
swift tree
not good music
Eh good ambient shit- not best track ofc
cinder mango
baldros
smoky crow
It's week 1, you take what you get and jam it in
there was a sheet with that to tap
tho yeah unless you want to activate the core it's alright
quiet flower
One ofthe best OSTs in the game 
cinder mango
not for me
smoky crow
One ofthe best OSTs in the game <a:nodders:852981811251380244>
nothing beats thae 4-3 sorry
cinder mango
quiet flower
I agree Thaemine has the best OSTs
cinder mango
swift tree
quiet flower
Not even linking the full hour one https://youtu.be/JSdskR2K9Jc?si=n-zRdkJfN0zzhjlm
wind dagger
skipping "rush week" and just doing other shit between now and december update
Truly a casual 
quiet flower
quiet flower
Truly a casual <:Gladge:1118532001423700141>
That's 99% of the playerbase
swift tree
Truly a casual <:Gladge:1118532001423700141>
chasing treasure clues on islands
wind dagger
Ah
wind dagger
That's 99% of the playerbase
Wish I had a capable roster. I would love to have my Scrapper be 1710 as my valk
swift tree
Wish I had a capable roster. I would love to have my Scrapper be 1710 as my valk
this + paradise
quiet flower
People wanting 2k+ CP for Normal KAz 
wind dagger
People wanting 2k+ CP for Normal KAz <:KEKL:1107023763205279764>
They'd rather wait for 2k+ than actual prog the raid
wind dagger
What the title called?
swift tree
go go evergrace :3
quiet flower
There's a couple:
- Archdemon = 1 clear of Kaz G2
- Deathlike = 5 clears I think
Then there's Sentinel Slayer if you do HM Act 4
swift tree
act 2?
swift tree
quiet flower
Can cubes please not auto kick you out after you clear a room
If you afk for 30 secs you just auto quit
swift tree
i want act2 solo mode ๐
dec
you have like 2 weeks until announcement, 2 more until release
cinder mango
give me fucking act2 solo baldshaza mode
quiet flower
No
You don't deserve it for all the cursing
Go sit on the naughty spot till you learn
wind dagger
Bro
swift tree
You don't deserve it for all the cursing
brittle hawk
quiet flower
Ty daily login
wind dagger
I wanna be 1720 but fuck this AH shit
quiet flower
What you want 1720 for
wind dagger
What you want 1720 for
Well
I have to keep the progression going
Can't stay 1710 forever
Wait, I'm not 1710 but 1712.5
quiet flower
Zero NM lobbies 
smoky crow
Zero NM lobbies <:deadge:1058780762951909406>
what raid?
quiet flower
Kazeros 
rose crater
just create your own lobby bro
quiet flower
Well if there's zero lobbies, that means no one is doing it
rose crater
smoky crow
Kazeros <:PepeLaugh:1104970702282563614>
everyone cleared already
smoky crow
ye the raid free
rose crater
that should provide some clarity
wind dagger
Hopefully there will be fresh prog lobbies today
quiet flower
that should provide some clarity
Provides zero clarity
Because majority of those players aren't even 1710+ anyway
rose crater
Because majority of those players aren't even 1710+ anyway
how does that not tie in with above then lol?
quiet flower
Simushy literally said why
Because it's already been cleared
And 11 am raiding on a Sunday isn't gonna be full of reclear lobbies is it
wind dagger
Gotta wait for afternoon or evening
rose crater
true true
smoky crow
best case parties will appear around 4pm
smoky crow
Hopefully there will be fresh prog lobbies today
likely 1 or 2 will still appear
wind dagger
likely 1 or 2 will still appear
1720+ players with a few 1730
smoky crow
it's 5 more weeks to unlock all slots
smoky crow
nah rats will also make prog lobby
1710
doubt 1720 and 1730 doing nm are still progging
wind dagger
smoky crow
yea literally raid is remember not to fuck up snd it's free
dps check so low
mechs simple
so with 1720s snd 1730s it's like 20min of slapping the boss
wind dagger
Reclear
quiet flower
We ain't re-progging NM
Lead kicked a 1740 Pistoleer cause he didn't have a clear 
Wild west lobby
wise pasture
wind dagger
Lead kicked a 1740 Pistoleer cause he didn't have a clear <:OMEGALUL:10636411174...
R word
You never know when this pistoleer was in his way to clear but couldn't clear due to his party
The party disbanded and he couldn't get into groups anymore
quiet flower
wind dagger
Oh well
Wondering how many times kazeros nm has been cleared
1321 clears
Hard mode 77 clears
brittle hawk
ye the raid free
noway
vague stirrup
Do we really want these deadweights in the player pool tho
If they're gone, the game will be gone as well.
wind dagger
1635?
zenith canyon
Budget? XD thats more like poorge mode
mystic basin
<:frijj:1055213377762361344>
The rich getting rich as usual
quaint wasp
I'm doing kaz with those gems
fleet plover
wind dagger
queen grail
We love his 700 mech when he does counter into counter 
lunar stag
We love his 700 mech when he does counter into counter <:angy:117474455898319258...
you mean baldy?
uncut dirge
Every time I prog I have to relearn that sorc is slow
Even reflux sorc abilities are slow
It doesn't feel like it, but they are compared to most characters
queen grail
you mean baldy?
Kazzy when he's doing stagger mech
uncut dirge
This is very obvious during the G1 700x mech
wind dagger
wind dagger
Most people want that
uncut dirge
Now it's Sunday and I still have a lot of prog ahead of me
So there's no playing of alts at all
lunar stag
you haven't cleared him one time?
lunar stag
yeah you better start progging for gatee 2
uncut dirge
Yeah but we're not gonna clear this week
I just don't see it happening
Usually need at least one night to get the normal patterns down
lunar stag
i pugged with randos and cleared
uncut dirge
So estimate is that we clear 2-1 tomorrow
lunar stag
only one guy there i knew and they were the leader
uncut dirge
So maybe we can get to 2-3 by Tuesday
burnt tree
If they're gone, the game will be gone as well.
look at his name, he doesnt care
uncut dirge
But no time to sleep on the patterns
burnt tree
one of those trihards who dont know how a game is maintained
quiet flower
Lobby imploded cause of leader being elitist
burnt tree
burnt tree
burnt tree
<@888771554631118849> have you done act 4 hm?
no 2470 CS is too low
uncut dirge
Yeah I'm in the same boat on that
burnt tree
but hey i did NM ezpz
uncut dirge
And I feel like if I can't get the act 4 title it might be time to decommission those characters
wise pasture
1321 clears
only 1300?
burnt tree
but at the same time i dont really care about said raids, i was so stressed last week but after looking at PF and the raids themselves idc now
uncut dirge
I only care about them for the gatekeep title
sand marsh
no 2470 CS is too low
dont u have a static
burnt tree
no
uncut dirge
If that didn't exist I would be perfectly happy with progging the raid weeks from now when my character meets the standards
sand marsh
yeah u can juz stop caring. not everyone will clear act 4 hm
there are a bunch of people who will go for the x10 title
uncut dirge
The problem is that you will make him care
sand marsh
and stick with that
uncut dirge
When he gets gatekept from a lobby 3 months from now
sand marsh
Nah. people in this game give way too much into fomo its stupid
burnt tree
i mean Narmoche was already a pain in the ass, HM without the telegraphs sounds worse to me 
uncut dirge
I don't particularly enjoy sitting longer in party finder
burnt tree
also releasing frontier titles while theres a TFM title on top just doesnt sit right with me? 
queen grail
What's this title from?
burnt tree
maybe its just me
uncut dirge
What's this title from? <:think:838069227918721024>
G2
sand marsh
What's this title from? <:think:838069227918721024>
It's from 2-2 HM
Which is where the real fighr begins
for HM kaz
everything before that is a joke
queen grail
Oh, i see
uncut dirge
i mean Narmoche was already a pain in the ass, HM without the telegraphs sounds...
I think on most characters it won't be that bad in a few weeks
You just gotta sleep on the patterns a few times and your will recognize them
queen grail
everything before that is a joke
my bad thanos
uncut dirge
Except on sorc though because you can't see shit through the spell effects
sand marsh
just giving you context
deathlike is harder to get than the act 4 frontier title kekw
uncut dirge
I'm talking the stagger though
burnt tree
i play safe knowing theres time for the stagger etc but other ppl get tossed around like ragdolls
and die
uncut dirge
The just guard felt fine
sand marsh
Deathlike > Frontier atm
uncut dirge
They don't recognize the patterns
Also the soldiers coming from the sides make it difficult to position
sand marsh
also if ppl do no dmg, more patterns
burnt tree
the stagger time is massive, after each pattern go in dump ur stagger skills and walk away
u dont need to be a pig
uncut dirge
Well on sorc it has become very obvious that her stagger is awful
burnt tree
uncut dirge
So you're constantly casting to keep up
But I didn't struggle that much with the 360x mech eventually
sand marsh
the stagger is very ez to complete.
uncut dirge
We even stopped running WW
sand marsh
just gotta take your time
burnt tree
like it took me only 2 lobbies to clear NM but in both i had the same DEadweight who was sleeping on the keyboard
sand marsh
yeah nm is very easy
uncut dirge
Ironically yeah 360x is the problem in normal too
burnt tree
yeah but itd be a lot eassier if he played safe
and didnt try to greed on a lobby that can clear
uncut dirge
yeah nm is very easy
Well it's the same thing as hard really
sand marsh
normal is easier because the boss dies in a blink
uncut dirge
Only difference is boss shows indicators other than animation
And I guess there's no wall
Also why did we not get the stagger buffs
orchid galleon
uncut dirge
SG looked at kazeros
lunar stag
normal is easier because the boss dies in a blink
you talking about act 4 or kazeros?
sand marsh
dont need stagger buffs
uncut dirge
"some classes need more stagger" and then just didn't release it for us with the raid
sand marsh
you talking about act 4 or kazeros?
both
burnt tree
i mean u already know how they are with the balance patches
uncut dirge
dont need stagger buffs
Bro I'm struggling doing stagger on sorc
lunar stag
kazeros gate 2 doesn't die in a blink lmao, we were above item power and we had to go through the desert phase twice
uncut dirge
Meanwhile zerk and slayer deal like 50-80% more
sand marsh
not sure if u use meter or not
sand marsh
kazeros gate 2 doesn't die in a blink lmao, we were above item power and we had ...
it does
if ppl do dmg that is
sand marsh
well yeah.. there warriors
lunar stag
it does
yeah, we had the damage, it had like 5 minutes left on zerker time, but we missed kadan window, by the way, how many bars does kadan take?
uncut dirge
And then you have the full moon soul eaters that do nothing lmao
burnt tree
just remembered they buffed vestige stagger, excellent skill to use on armoche and insta kms
sand marsh
and sorc does not have terrible stagger unless you play igniter
sand marsh
in that case, idk wtf ur doing
wise pasture
but why cant ppl just live
so you are
uncut dirge
Igniter stagger is better than reflux for stagger checks
Because you can just ignite
sand marsh
depends on the stagger check
uncut dirge
And gain extra stagger
sand marsh
longer stagger checks > reflux
burnt tree
so you are <:KEKW:834726120606924850>
DEadweights, insta gatekeep all Des now
Reflux has been pretty good for a long time now ong
burnt tree
still better than igniter on a boss like armoche
burnt tree
and ppl kazeros too frfr
uncut dirge
Not the worst, but for a spammy class it's one of the worst
lunar stag
i saw lobbies gate keep DPSs who aren't zerkers lmao
burnt tree
<:Susge:1065387133990355014>
wise pasture
lets go
sharp rock
<:UwU:922621420163448913>
Vestige into Kms
burnt tree
zerkers supremacy
lunar stag
tbh, its better to be safe and don't get stuck in 700x
burnt tree
Vestige into Kms
uncut dirge
Also
sand marsh
if u see a lobby that is stuck in 700x
uncut dirge
If you play lunar reaper it might be time to switch specs
uncut dirge
Because I bet people gatekeep lunar reaper
burnt tree
ill wait for scalp to carry me frfr
uncut dirge
We were stuck on 700x
lunar stag
avoid at all costs
tbh, the major red flag is being stuck at 900 gate 2
uncut dirge
We started the raid and in a few pulls were stuck on 700x
sharp rock
Wait untill u See kaz g2, im scared to Use vestige, Everything kills u there
lunar stag
or 550x gte 2
uncut dirge
Then we passed 700x and got to 500x immediately
uncut dirge
And then were still stuck on 700x
burnt tree
Wait untill u See kaz g2, im scared to Use vestige, Everything kills u there
ill never see it
sand marsh
yeah ppl dont take there time with 700x
burnt tree
cause the reqs are too high
uncut dirge
Then we got to 380x and were decent at it, new lobby still stuck on 700x
burnt tree
therefore i cannot enter
sand marsh
rushing it causes u to fail if your not a gamer
uncut dirge
Then we did a p3 prog lobby and we were still stuck on 700x
burnt tree
its just gonna be another thaemine situation where i do the raid once and never again frfr
lunar stag
gate 2 only gets very hard in hm, in normal he is easyish...
its just some of his patterns are insta death because a teammate did something wrong
sharp rock
Me like , now i can use vestige the second Rota
But kaz is Like , No Son Ur not doing that now 
uncut dirge
Armoche vestige is also funny
At least on just guard you can vestige into the wall
But during stagger you can only vestige away
Then walk back like a pleb and vestige away again
sharp rock
Literaly the worse skill but also the best to reposition when timed Right, sometimes you See all Ur Team Flyes Away from Boss, and you Land on the Save side and Wonder, how did i do that
burnt tree
https://tenor.com/view/wonyoung-jang-wonyoung-letterboxd-reaction-half-star-gif-13983925751380388168
uncut dirge
Oh yeah G1 during echidna's spotlight
How are you supposed to vestige there
Gotta be safe from the two clones
sand marsh
being held back by people in the static
uncut dirge
3k+?
sand marsh
prolly gonna replace a few of them lol
uncut dirge
Goddamn
sand marsh
yee
uncut dirge
It's pretty high though
When people thought 2500 was high before release
Ah
I only got +50
But honestly these new raid releases
Feel like Mordum was supposed to be 1705-1710
Act 4 1730
And Kaz 1740
wise pasture
2500 is very low for hm kazeros and we knew it before release here as well
lunar stag
Does progression for the raid thing counts both hard and normal mode Kazeros?
lunar stag
Well, at least I put some effort in xD
lunar stag
Does uwu not record gate 2 of Kazeros?
I really wanna compare gate 1 clears to gate 2 clears
wise pasture
nm is quite simple
lunar stag
Well, not just that, people play on weekends
wise pasture
hm not so much
wind dagger
i hope its not reclears
wanna see unique account clears
to know how many players actually do this raid
lunar stag
nm is quite simple
Tbh, gate 1 wasn't an issue for me, like 3 hours prog and you master it.
wind dagger
or mulitple
noble yarrow
And some of them are piloting xdd
lunar stag
Gate 2 on the other hand was way harder
wind dagger
its fucked up
noble yarrow
Guys i have a question
queen grail
man I didn't float and died to pepega mech
cinder mango
https://tenor.com/view/kazeros-lost-ark-mokoko-gif-2661148363146555124
don't steal my gif
noble yarrow
Whats the point that g2-2 doesnt have a checkpoint?
lunar stag
It has more punishing mechanics
noble yarrow
Just for waste our time?
lunar stag
Just wait for it to get nerfed/we out combat score it with the first shadow raid
At this time just do gate 1 hard gate 2 normal if you don't have a static
Its a challenging gate, and it's meant to be the hardest in the game's history
burnt tree
Just for waste our time?
artificial difficulty and pressure
noble yarrow
I know right, but not having checkpoint is artificial difficulty asdfg
wind dagger
gotta justify these raids for whales
noble yarrow
asf
wind dagger
money talks
burnt tree
I know right, but not having checkpoint is artificial difficulty asdfg
Considering what happend with Thaemine its more like stupidity, but director been out of touch for the most part anyway
lunar stag
Its the mechs and attacks that kill you, not the berserk timer
queen grail
not often but one guy crashed out when I did one small mistake that my team didn't do, smh, some people need to relax.
At least it was a clear 
queen grail
and again just epic shit cores
lunar stag
<:think:838069227918721024> not often but one guy crashed out when I did one sma...
What gate is this?
queen grail
What gate is this?
G2 Kaz
lunar stag
I mean, yeah, there were a lot of crash outs in that gate, I won't say justified... But understandable xd
queen grail
My grp didn't stack or greed the stagger/clash mech so I moved and he crashed out 
Like, buddy Breath, in and out.
queen grail
We cleared after wipe, or, two wipe since someone derped on another thing after 
(the same mech dps greeding and moving a bit too much)
lunar stag
Tbh, at my clear pull, we didn't have any crash out. The leader was pretty good and kept the team calm
queen grail
Not giga but nice, got a tiny upgrade.
queen grail
Tbh, at my clear pull, we didn't have any crash out. The leader was pretty good ...
The only guy who really crashed out was a HM Clearer
quaint wasp
Tbf I was crashing out during clown and brel 1.0 reclears
Week 2 it's super noticeable
Between people with 6+ chars ready for hm week 1
And people with only 1
lunar stag
The only guy who really crashed out was a HM Clearer <:xdd:1086399274046193755>
What is a HM clearer doing in a prog party?
swift magnet
swift magnet
sharp rock
queen grail
What is a HM clearer doing in a prog party?
Prog? It was normal reclear.
cinder mango
<a:582388555167432713:599096040720695343>
cinder mango
bring back kat
cinder mango
we want kat back
queen grail
What's dodge when you can just, shield 
swift magnet
<:EZ:965819818118889552> What's dodge when you can just, shield <:Despairge:1001...
i will do this later
watched guide and cant rememebr anything
this will be inetresting lol
wise pasture
first try with new party, seems viable at least
cinder mango
forgive kat
she was innouncent, didn't deserve ban
wise pasture
cinder mango
Forgive him, administrators.
cinder mango
https://tenor.com/view/green-guy-pokes-you-stick-poke-comagreeny-gif-12916307036...
STOLEN
lunar stag
https://tenor.com/view/lol-bored-angry-corgi-cabbage-art-gif-5258033
this what kazeros is doing
lunar stag
watching your party buddies dying in 900 and can't help them feel so sad
swift magnet
i dont like this event at all xD
faint grove
cleared g1 kaz hm, surely g2 is easier 
burnt tree
Not giga but nice, got a tiny upgrade.
nice supp class
burnt tree
cleared g1 kaz hm, surely g2 is easier <:COPIUM:875701734771679282>
the biggest copium to ever cope in the history of copium
wind dagger
Oof
queen grail
swift magnet
I never got relic jubalant
i call these the AAAA pouches
cuz after you open them you go aaaaw crap again xD
queen grail
6 Act4.
3 Kaz.
Zero Relic.
Ok.
swift magnet
<a:sadge:1005091937600155768> 6 Act4.
<:sad_cat:669896604010020905> 3 Kaz.
Zer...
how is kaz nm?
maybe i try later xD
lunar stag
oh wait...
burnt tree
how is kaz nm?
lunar stag
kazeros wings have such a long dash, is it the longest in the game?
burnt tree
fitting since hes good at running away
lunar stag
lmao
queen grail
how is kaz nm?
Honestly, not to bad as long as you can push damage and you know a few of the "Oh shit mechs".
700 in G1 and 900 in G2.
The rest of the mech's aren't that bad and for like the stagger part in Gate 2 where you stagger > clash and aim the boulder to break, that shit is just a giga window of dps
cinder mango
<:wahoo:1399145956649472192>
Abyss Lord Balderos
lunar stag
bald and balding
queen grail
at least I "only" have 1 normal and 2 hard (will most likely go normal on one and prog until last day on the other)
Did you try Kaz @burnt tree ?
queen grail
no
Normal is like, brell hard when you get used to it.
It's just 1 core mech that you will stonewall a bit [700].
swift magnet
ayaya
burnt tree
i dont enjoy myself this patch so
swift magnet
usable
this system i just take what it gives me
this rng is insane for a goldsink
worst of the worst xD
queen grail
i dont enjoy myself this patch so
Oh?
lunar stag
ayaya
my rng sucked ass with this system
now i ee why people hate thi system
straight up 0 usablee class core
muted spade
Can only get better from here
swift magnet
i got a relic core in nm on one of my chars sadly unusable stats wise. so i just use it to equip some gems xD
burnt tree
<:think:838069227918721024> Oh?
Normally at this hour i do dailies on LOA but instead
queen grail
straight up 0 usablee class core
UwU 6 Act 4 and 3 Kaz clear's that's like, 24 cores
0 Relic.
wise pasture
make that 5kaz and no relic
obtuse oyster
i dont enjoy myself this patch so
Double raid release moment
fresh flint
UwU 6 Act 4 and 3 Kaz clear's that's like, 24 cores <:wahoo:1399145956649472192>...
I got a relic from nm act 4
BIS core too
safe lark
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
swift magnet
<a:Classic:1354570978109161646>
surreal gyro
i dont enjoy myself this patch so
why lmao what changed
burnt tree
Double raid release moment
yeah idk logging on rn feels like a burden, and i usually dont have much to complain or dislike about the game to that point
surreal gyro
its not a double raid release
its basically a 4 gate raid split into 2
we also have revives this time around so overall it's one of the better progs ive had experienced in a long time
queen grail
its not a double raid release
What? It is.
Act 4 is one raid.
Kazerroth is another raid.
1+1.
fleet plover
its not a double raid release
It is a double raid release.
surreal gyro
Thaemine was 4 gates
queen grail
Thaemine was 4 gates
Theamine was 1 raid.
surreal gyro
KAzeros is the same , but to make it more convenienet they split it
queen grail
Brell was 6 gates and 1 Raid.
surreal gyro
Yes but 4 gates
queen grail
Clown was 3 gates and 1 raid.
wind dagger
6 gates*
queen grail
Raid = Raid.
Gates = Gates.
surreal gyro
yes ut the argument that people are tired of double raid release
is a bit scuffed
cause it's 2 + 2 gates
and you get much mor rewards this time around
queen grail
It's not scuffed, they release 2 raids at once with time locked titles, It's just silly, and to do that on top of Paradise Season 2 start and new Guardian, ofc a lot of people will feel overwhelmed with too much to do.
queen grail
They could have released 1 raid, waited 1 week, released next.
queen grail
ACT4 is extremely easy
"For you".
queen grail
no its an easier raid i cleared HM with pugs
Ok? That does not mean It's an objective easy raid, you got lucky with pugs and had some good player's.
surreal gyro
idk what to tell you
queen grail
I pugged it too and cleared it but It's not hard to see how pugs can struggle.
And how It can be a multi-day prog raid.
surreal gyro
it is as with every raid release
you can just do paradise on your characters which takes maximum 2 hours
queen grail
All they had to do is stagger the release.
surreal gyro
increase timer will do nothing
queen grail
that's FOMO
Why do people think FOMO is an argument?
surreal gyro
cause peple who cleared Week 1 will require the title week 2
burnt tree
or dont release frontier title
surreal gyro
that's just stupid
burnt tree
problem solved
queen grail
They release something in a game, ofc people want to obtain it? 
Oh no, I have fomo for wanting to play and get the current titles that the game has.
My bad
surreal gyro
and ACT4 HM is doable for week 1 clear, for KAzeros HM 5% of the playerbase will have the title, there wornt be gatekeeping look at uwuowo stats.
queen grail
jolly saddle
Guys when does Kazeros NM end? After 2-2 or 2-1?
burnt tree
2-2
jolly saddle
Thank you
burnt tree
NM does not have God Kazeros
surreal gyro
They release something in a game, ofc people want to obtain it? <:FacePalm:55649...
then focus on that adn obtain it, why you bring up paradise and every other raid as an excuse
queen grail
and ACT4 HM is doable for week 1 clear, for KAzeros HM 5% of the playerbase will...
Or, and this is a crazy idea.
Act 4 Release 19.11.
Kaz Release 3.12.
TFM Release 10.12.
There, done.
surreal gyro
we have had this isnce the game released a raid
surreal gyro
<:WeirdPaper:925061361296375819> Or, and this is a crazy idea.
Act 4 Release 19...
why dont you do that? why dont you prog KAzeros next week?
queen grail
then focus on that adn obtain it, why you bring up paradise and every other raid...
Because people want to do that too? 
I don't play this game to ONLY raid.
surreal gyro
then who is stopping you jesus christ
do you think that ne4xt week all lobbies will have KAz HM clear title?
you are fomoing
errant fable
any speeders
obtuse oyster
Or increase title timer so people didn't feel compelled to go for both titles.
Or just delete frontier titles 
swift tree
any speeders
its not out yet dummy
errant fable
its not out yet dummy
i alredy cleard once
queen grail
you are fomoing
You have terrible argument and this is a fruitless conversation.
The second someone just start yelling "FOMO FOMO" I know It's pointleess to keep talking.
surreal gyro
but it is fomo
queen grail
Ok buddy, 
errant fable
when everyone is offline
surreal gyro
who is stopping you from doing what you want Currently?
queen grail
Bye bye.
surreal gyro
u want AGS to slow the relase cause yo uwant it YOUR WAY
queen grail
surreal gyro
if they released a 4 gate raid you would cyr all day
they split it into 2 raid releases making it more chill
you still cry
i mean
pick a struggle
check uwuowo they have the stats on how many lobbies have beat Kaz HM
it's basic maths
neon silo
Guys when does Kazeros NM end? After 2-2 or 2-1?
ends after 2-1
swift tree
fake info bro
ends at end of desert segment, some call that 2-2 some call that part of 2-1
internet lingo dumb as usual
neon silo
that makes no sense tho
surreal gyro
its part of 2-1 since he dsnt get a refreshed HP bar
neon silo
its part of 2-1 since he dsnt get a refreshed HP bar
exactly
neon silo
dont tag me for bs
ok
queen grail
obtuse oyster
https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830
errant fable
easy raid alredy 1454 clears
swift tree
neon silo
easy raid alredy 1454 clears
"half the pulls wipe before x718" XDDDDDD
queen grail
Or just delete frontier titles <:Shrug:1307096579370651779>
could do that too, but would like some metric to show that you've cleared at a glance for later on.
obtuse oyster
<:think:838069227918721024> could do that too, but would like some metric to sho...
Idk
jolly saddle
ends after 2-1
Wait really? That saves a lot of time then 
errant fable
and you get the ugly blue wings
quiet flower
That's me
So far only like, 80 groups have cleared HM Kaz
So that's 640 people with Chaos Conqueror
surreal gyro
So far only like, 80 groups have cleared HM Kaz
tell that to certain people who think that if they dont clear Kaz HM this week it's over
Also u guys seem to forget how much worse GT was before frontier titles when people wanted x10 week 2
errant fable
So that's 640 people with Chaos Conqueror
or whales who cleard it 6 times
surreal gyro
but okey.
quiet flower
Also u guys seem to forget how much worse GT was before frontier titles when peo...
Yeah that was so funny
Saw it with Akkan
Already seeing people want 5x clears for NM
But not as much
Most are fine with Archdemon (1x)
errant fable
no
i want only SS title for my NM runs with 2000 cp
or if you dont have x10 clear next week i dont want you
quaint wasp
Also u guys seem to forget how much worse GT was before frontier titles when peo...
asking for 10x week 2 is only normal for gigachads
the gap between people who clear 6x a week and 1x
is massive
surreal gyro
you get my point, frontier didnt really change much
and without frontier people will want a HM clear trophy anyway
so wha'ts the fkin difference
quiet flower
errant fable
just make your own group
quaint wasp
if you think title doesn't matter then make your own group ye^
just don't mald over jails
uncut dirge
ok
i can see why people gatekeep kazeros g2 for 3000+ combat power
you need 513m dps on everyone in the first 50 seconds
to get the 100 bars down
devout nymph
thats tfm no?
uncut dirge
tfm is 700m
devout nymph
pretty sure our raid is not 513m across the board, let me doublecheck
uncut dirge
boss has 1,539,052,397,499 hp
100 bars is 153.9 billion hp
divided by 50 seconds and 6 players is 513m
surreal gyro
nahh
xD
im also proggign HM and im at 2790 CP
its not as bad you spam everything at the beggining and sometimes its more than 50secs
if he is doing a pattern
you also use darks and he has a clash so you can pump a lot
ive been in lobbies with most of us below 3k CP and we only fail the 50sec mech if people get knocked down a lot
devout nymph
no you right, misremembered coz atro helps alot with awk
and sups do like 5m dps as well, prob random procs
dusk cape
surreal gyro
Damn
dusk cape
they let me have it for quite cheap
surreal gyro
Letโs see your luck
dusk cape
surreal gyro
Is that good I have no idea ๐ญ
surreal gyro
Shud be relatively achievable to get 17 points on that
dusk cape
yea hopefully
wise pasture
16,5mil dmg taken at end of G1 kazeros in hm
sand marsh
we in 2-2 bois
queen grail
vagrant cradle
crazy that this is the best thing I've gotten from this trash event so far
sand marsh
vagrant cradle
queen grail
@obtuse oyster static decided to just do normal on main this week.
queen grail
Poor guy got smashed on norrmal with overgeared
queen grail
pugs aint clearing
maybe you guys are just bad? Aren't you all like 3,5k Combat Power Static 
swift magnet
nah fk kazeros
i wont touch this raid ever again
not even nm
to me its straight up no fun
swift magnet
https://tenor.com/view/sad-sad-cat-cat-depressed-depression-gif-1324055024924795...
aaw sad kitty
cyan elk
<:wahoo:1399145956649472192>
no shit
safe lark
thats Arna when she enters new raid
cyan elk
same setup as yesterday?
obtuse oyster
<:xdd:1086399274046193755> <@227613957928648714> static decided to just do norma...
Week 2 angle
cyan elk
not even nm
i only could do nm this week
and i'd want to do it x6 on my roster but got only 1 1710+
swift magnet
i only could do nm this week
i just tried progging and its straight up no fun even in nm to me
so i cba
cyan elk
my artist on my party had vph
wintry depot
even with vph its dogshit
you have 2 skills for stagger
and you need to save one for counter
cyan elk
nothing that 16 whirlwinds can change
wintry depot
(talking specifically about prokel)
vagrant cradle
nothing that 16 whirlwinds can change
covert remnant
world boss
swift magnet
this progs i did was the most fun i had since valtan XD
ya i dont say for others its not fun. just to me thios boss is zaza ALL the time. its a game. i dont want to do smt that is draining me more than work. i just dont have the mental for that
final sable
i wont touch this raid ever again
I looked listened to the guide and saw how much hp it was
And quit
wintry depot
?
final sable
Just gonna do paradise/hell keys
Til i get bored
Then uninstall
Ive already donated all my gems to people hell bent on clearing week 1
wise pasture
send gems
queen grail
same setup as yesterday?
Ye, pretty much, just had to crit and hit the right stuff
final sable
<:Susge:1065387133990355014> send gems
I have 3 lvl8s and 2 lvl7s left
But they are tuned for like a week
quaint wasp
time to funnel and get rank 1 in paradise
final sable
Prob throw those into a giveaway for whoevers left in the guild around christmas
vagrant cradle
time to funnel and get rank 1 in paradise
wind dagger
Ive already donated all my gems to people hell bent on clearing week 1
Rest in pepperoni
final sable
Rippin pepperoni
final sable
1740.83 3013
final sable
I just didnt feel like trying
Did 2 nm act 4s
2 hordums
And in both the hordums i wanted to uninstall the game
vagrant cradle
yeah these raids would have been significantly more enjoyable if they were released separately
vagrant cradle
final sable
Its like brel 1.0 again
Where u spend half the time resolving something
Also dumb how it goes straight into a cutscene after stagger check
Lemme hit boss
!!
it is mordum all over again, people just keep dying to the most basic shit
cinder mango
<:FeelsDumbMan:486880728945131520> it is mordum all over again, people just keep...
baldrum
final sable
<:FeelsDumbMan:486880728945131520> it is mordum all over again, people just keep...
I miss the old mordum g1
wintry depot
<:FeelsDumbMan:486880728945131520> it is mordum all over again, people just keep...
yes
wise pasture
it is quite hard to skip in the new one fully
sand marsh
I'm tired of it already ๐ญ
i dont think its too hard
there's just a lot of shit happening xdd
gotta get more reps in
fleet plover
Yes but u have to do 10-13m of phase 1 everytime which is so annoying
sand marsh
and when the team doesn't know how to do some of the mechs
fleet plover
sand marsh
it just makes it harder
sand marsh
Yes but u have to do 10-13m of phase 1 everytime which is so annoying
true but this should be mickey mouse if your truly 2-2 prog
and by 2-2 prog I don't mean just getting there and seeing some stuff
like actually know the patterns/mechs.
in that essence, g2-1 is a joke.
final sable
I can just yolo gamba my fire/ice keys now
sand marsh
Yes but u have to do 10-13m of phase 1 everytime which is so annoying
This was my first time entering 2-2 and I caught on pretty quickly
if I actually studied it, i'd be a bit better but im a believer of seeing it 1st
sand marsh
uncut dirge
weir dis that the T. DPS showed as 1b
final sable
Just get gud and dont get hit
uncut dirge
so i guess those two numbers aren't related
dps i guess is over the full raid while ttk is more recent
final sable
Xd
wise pasture
dps i guess is over the full raid while ttk is more recent
ttk is counted from living members in the moment
given what they have
final sable
Dead ppls dps will continue to go down so the 1b gonna decrease til its only the people alive
uncut dirge
I see
final sable
Surely i finish valks +25 weapon with only paradise
Although i could just sell off my chars accs
For gold
final sable
I have 5 chars with min a high line for accs
final sable
And a few with high lows
Still have that sidereal energy
So gold for taps is covered
final sable
Would need just the shards
final sable
Free taps > shards