lost-ark-discussions

[quaint wasp]

At least I'm not gatekeeping for pre ark grid monarchs

[kind oriole]

Daddy Kazeros hits hard

[uncut stratus]

What is hitting? I don’t get hit?

[fresh flint]

[uncut stratus]

3s incap time in g1 act 4

[fresh flint]

[wind dagger]

?

[fresh flint]

[wind dagger]

[fresh flint]

[wind dagger]

Malaka

[fresh flint]

ur a queef

[neon cedar]

Lost ark could never treat me so good

[obtuse oyster]

you don't like your 3day aura and 10 feathers

[fresh flint]

210m dps in g1 hm is low no?

[formal frost]

tarkov as well. killed by cheaters? bylat

[obtuse oyster]

act4?

[fresh flint]

kaz

[obtuse oyster]

ah

xdd

[fresh flint]

being nosey on memos stream

[wind dagger]

No u

Eat a cucumber

[fresh flint]

suck a cucumber

[wind dagger]

No u

[fresh flint]

u

[cinder mango]

[sand marsh]

[fresh flint]

The fuk u pointing at

[sand marsh]

[cinder mango]

hello baldboi

how are you

[sand marsh]

[bitter inlet]

dboi when act 4 guide

[sand marsh]

whenever i clear hm kaz

so i can make a guide for both

i have about 10hrs of footage

[bitter inlet]

[cinder mango]

come here baldboi

you can't go anywhere

[sand marsh]

getting closer

to g1 dedge

[faint grove]

just gotta do the guard thing and you good

[final gale]

🐐

[sand marsh]

[tulip charm]

ags did alot of good changes lately, have to give credit where its due, the new west only jewel changes, new events that give more jewels than kr, boosted event shops, its all good except one thing
i really wish they staggered the 2 raids act 4 and final act, 4 raids + holiday season is just too much -_-

[tulip charm]

hm g2 prog? gratz on the clear almost

[sand marsh]

nah g1

[tulip charm]

i got a g1 normal clear today on my gs alt, but its a fake clear

i was dead for more than half the fight -_-, even on normal it hurts, i did learn as much as i could out of it, real prog hopefully starts tmrw

[uncut dirge]

I wish they would stop with the frontier title nonsense. I wouldn't even mind the raid releases not being staggered if it wasn't for that.

[sand marsh]

very few people are gonna clear kaz hm week 1, so its not really a big deal

[tulip charm]

quite abit will clear week 1 you mean, all the race rejects at 1755 3600cs full teams

[uncut dirge]

It is a big deal though

[sand marsh]

ilvl dont mean much in that raid tbh lol

many 1755s still get nuked

[uncut dirge]

Because the problem is still the exact same as previously

[sand marsh]

i fail to see the problem

[uncut dirge]

I'm sorry to hear that

Maybe another -30% player count will help

[sand marsh]

it isnt due to a title. its the same logic as asking for achievement day 1 of clear or something

there's 0 difference

[uncut dirge]

It is due to the title

Because people gatekeep using these titles for months to come

[sand marsh]

then get the title? or play with people who don't have it?

not everyone will have it lmao

[uncut dirge]

Like the next majoe raid release in 6 months is going to use these titles again

[uncut dirge]

Yeah, you really do fail to see the problem huh

[sand marsh]

if frontier goes away people will just ask you to link achievement

[uncut dirge]

In an ever-diminishing player base

[sand marsh]

and if the achievement date is very late into content release

they will just kick you

[uncut dirge]

You want to segment the players further

[sand marsh]

??

[uncut dirge]

To get to do your gatekeeping

[sand marsh]

People just don't want to play with shitters

[uncut dirge]

And then you wonder why the player count goes down down down

[sand marsh]

can't blame them for that lol

[uncut dirge]

And how do you know they're shitters?

You're essentially saying that everyone that didn't clear the raid in hm in the first 2 (or 4 weeks) is a shitter

[sand marsh]

If you cleared very late, chances are you are either A) not that good or B) very casual

[uncut dirge]

Do you not see how this is a problem? What about people who didn't make the gear cut off? People who didn't play at the time?

A million other things

It being a time limited title means that only some people are going to hit it, everyone else can just fuck off

And it turns out they are just fucking off

[sand marsh]

If you didn't make the item level check, you are never going to be the player they are looking for anyways.

Not playing at the time of a raid release, same logic.

[uncut dirge]

Really?

[sand marsh]

Yeah lol

That would be a very casual player

which week 1 players don't want usually

[uncut dirge]

You think that somebody shouldn't get into mordum groups today because they weren't there at the gear level half a year ago?

Because people still gatekeep mordum with that title

And people gatekeep these current raid progs with that title (at least the first days)

[sand marsh]

Anyone gatekeeping lord of thunder is weird since the raid has been out for months.

[uncut dirge]

Like this is how you slice away more and more of the player base

By making everybody's party finder time longer

And eventually it gets long enough they just stop playing

[sand marsh]

I don't agree with that necessarily.

You get rid of frontier title, people will gravitate to something else that checks date of clear.

Or if you are very late to the content release, people will expect x10 title

[uncut dirge]

What, no they won't

[sand marsh]

(same as back in the day)

[uncut dirge]

Because people didn't do that in the past before these titles

[sand marsh]

I did

For G4 thaemine

[uncut dirge]

Nobody checked when you got an achievement/title, they just checked if

[sand marsh]

We didn't have a time-limited title back then.

Get rid of it now, checking achievement date is a way to bring it back lol

[uncut dirge]

Yes, but nobody checked the achievement timing

[sand marsh]

People would if you got rid of frontier tomorrow

Because the week 1 andies actually like it

[uncut dirge]

And without these time limited titles nobody would either

No they wouldn't

[sand marsh]

Well I would

shrug

[uncut dirge]

2 months from now you wouldn't make lobbies on alts

That go " we will check the date of your clear achievements"

Nobody would go through that effort

But the frontier titles make this easy to do, so people do it

[sand marsh]

Well I like it personally

[uncut dirge]

And this creates a situation where people feel forced to do the early hm prog

[sand marsh]

seperates people i wanna play with vs people who are gonna int forever in the raid

[uncut dirge]

And when people get so strung up on it and fail

[sand marsh]

You aren't forced though. Not everyone is going to clear week 1 or 2.

[uncut dirge]

Their response isn't "I'll try very next time" it's "I'll go play Aion/RuneScape/wow"

[sand marsh]

Play within your means

These people who feel forced to do hm prog

are actually shit at the game

not even kidding

You do hm because you want to do it

[uncut dirge]

You really don't get it at all

[sand marsh]

If you feel forced... your not built for it lol

[uncut dirge]

Like at all

This is the kind of delusion the directors run on

What are you gonna do eventually? Just you and your 7 static members left playing the game on your own?

[sand marsh]

I know many people who stick to normal and don't feel forced

Plenty of mordums with abyssal punishers in it

[uncut dirge]

Yeah and guess what they do long-term

They quit

[sand marsh]

There will be plenty of act 4/kazeros will x10 titles in it

omg they quit because a small portion of the playerbase has a title they don't have

sounds like entitlement lmao

[uncut dirge]

Yes this is exactly the kind of thing that makes people quit

A few percentages here and there add up to really big numbers over time

[sand marsh]

They quit because a very small portion of the playerbase has a week 1/2 title?

[tulip charm]

scalp dosn't want to segment the players
the players like to segment themselves, its what weirdos like to do

[sand marsh]

How that does impact them in any way?

[uncut dirge]

Like for Brel it took months

[sand marsh]

There's tons of x10 title lobbies

[tulip charm]

its like complain "lost ark dosn't respect your time"

[uncut dirge]

Until people stopped thinking that you could even do hm without the title

[tulip charm]

they clearly don't fking respect their own time making their 4th alt roster 26th alt char

[uncut dirge]

Scalp specifically wants this

[tulip charm]

[sand marsh]

You do realize you can get x10 title and play with people who have it right?

There's tons of them lmao

[uncut dirge]

For Brel hm you could not get into most lobbies for a good 3+ months

[sand marsh]

For mordum, brel, aegir, etc

That's not even true lol

[uncut dirge]

Yes it is

[sand marsh]

maybe on your shitter region it's true

[uncut dirge]

Obviously you can't tell

[sand marsh]

not NA

[uncut dirge]

Since you get the titles and gatekeep based on them

[tulip charm]

yea, but people don't want to, they wanna get into that full week 2 title lobby with blue title instead

and if they get declined, time to riot on reddit

[sand marsh]

if i didn't have the title i would join a lobby that doesn't have it

or make my own

not every person playing the game is clearing a raid week 1/2

far from the case

[uncut dirge]

And because of that you don't know what it's like

[sand marsh]

I know people who don't clear week 1/2

They are perfectly fine.

[tulip charm]

it goes both ways, sometimes the people with the early titles gatekeep way too hard, if the char have the proper setup and cs/gems and looks decent, there really isn't a reason to not take them either

[uncut dirge]

I still frequently see mordum lobbies that title gatekeep

They do it for a reason

But without the titles existing they wouldn't go through the effort of checking achievements

[sand marsh]

I like it because I can tell who was dedicated to clear it early, and who wasn't. The people who were able to clear HM Kaz for example, before it gets nerfed by a whopping 20%, are likely good players that I want to play with.

[tulip charm]

wdym, you realize i don't have week 2 mordum title right? i cleared week 3 without revives for week 4 title
and i don't have eclipse title either

[sand marsh]

It's very simple to understand.

[uncut dirge]

But since checking a time-limited title is easy they just do that

Yes but nobody treats week 3 title differently from week 1

[sand marsh]

Idk what you would be doing for an entire 3 weeks of a raid release

[uncut dirge]

The problem is frontier titles in general, not just specifically week 1

[sand marsh]

Snooze ya lose, idk. If the separation didn't exist i would get jailed way more often

[tulip charm]

thats my issue right now
they really should have staggered the 2 raids

i am doing holiday shit

[sand marsh]

Act 4 hm doesn't take long to clear lol

[tulip charm]

i cleared 2x hm act 4s already

and did all the normal act4s on alts

[sand marsh]

yeah and thats by a friday

[tulip charm]

and cleared all the mordums this reset, but the fatigue is starting to kick in now

[sand marsh]

pretty quick

[tulip charm]

and we still haven't progged final act

i am tired, more tired than ever playing lost ark, thats not a good thing

[uncut dirge]

If you need pugs you're gonna start running out of time

[tawny lion]

You have 3 people here telling you it’s not fine. Many people on reddit too. Your account is very experienced brother idk why u deny reality

[sand marsh]

eh i really enjoy kazeros

[uncut dirge]

Many of the better players will start clearing or get further along in the prog

As it gets later in the week

[sand marsh]

3 people?

[tulip charm]

most likely will run out of time, will have to grind out normal clears week 1, and i am okay with this

[uncut dirge]

So you end up with worse players and much less chance of clearing

[sand marsh]

it's just aeeroonn yapping as always lmao

[tulip charm]

i just don't like being strapped for time, 4 raids released at the same time in conjunction with holidays is too much

[sand marsh]

You just proved my point

worse players

i dont wanna deal with that

[tawny lion]

Tbh if ur roster and character are decent. Jus don’t equip any title for mord if u lack title they will just think u forgot

[uncut dirge]

No I'm not. It's possible obvious how frontier titles cause a lot of problems, but you like them because you get to benefit from their existence. You just don't care what the consequences for the rest of the playerbase are.

[sand marsh]

You just said worse players, less chance of clearing

If you remove frontier you would never know that

Then everyone gets jailed

[tawny lion]

Good

[sand marsh]

not good?

[tawny lion]

They devs will have to fix the game

[uncut dirge]

Yes, and that's how you keep the game in a healthier state

[tulip charm]

i don't agree, but i can see where your coming from, and i think its a decent argument

[sand marsh]

Fix the game?

[uncut dirge]

It shouldn't be all about you

[sand marsh]

You can't fix hands lol

[uncut dirge]

And making you have an easy time

[sand marsh]

If your trash, your trash

Yeah im not gonna carry some bozos

Good thing meter exists

[tawny lion]

Proof lost ark is more toxic than league

[sand marsh]

can always fall on that if frontier goes away

[sand marsh]

Toxic because I dont wanna be an altruistic and spend hours in a raid

you right man

I should be a divine saint and carry everyone

[tawny lion]

Yeah that’s why lost ark has the worst community online

[uncut dirge]

Like I said, he will only understand the problem once it's him and his 7 static mates left

[sand marsh]

It's not the worst community

[tawny lion]

It is

[sand marsh]

league is worse and so is wow

no, it isn't

[tawny lion]

No it’s not

[uncut dirge]

Or maybe even then he'll just blame it on some other thing SG did

[sand marsh]

your delusional

[tawny lion]

Even your statement proves league is less toxic

[sand marsh]

yap yap yap

back to kazeros

[tulip charm]

what if i made a new raid
with ALOT of BIG stagger check mechanics, and during the stagger the boss will be 95% dred, and if you dont complete the stagger the raid wipes
scalp's static will never clear this raid, since they all stop pressing buttons

[tawny lion]

Thats true but damn I’d reroll gl if stagger became super relevant

I dislike this ark system grid only people who treat this game like a job can enjoy it

[sand marsh]

nobody likes the system

[uncut dirge]

I guess there is one way they could keep the frontier titles

Make them only available on the char that got it

[quaint wasp]

Just get monarch good enough to not be gatekept by most once you have it

[tulip charm]

Interesting idea

[uncut dirge]

Because it's not like some guy who didn't make the gear cut off is going to be playing with a week 1 main

They're going to be a year apart in progression

But their alts might play together

And that's where it becomes an issue

This is why I also think it being a title is the problem - it's too easy to check compared to achievements

So people will casually use it even way down the line

[tawny lion]

Kr doesn’t complain about it. Doesn’t mean they like it but they dont dislike it

[uncut dirge]

Also I suspect that act 4 title will actually be enough

Won't really even need Kaz title

[tulip charm]

Maybe I am looking at it too different than you guys, they should keep the frontier titles in, because it encourages whaling for strong char, get the title, and flex on people that don’t have it

[uncut dirge]

Personally I benefit from these too, but I still remember how awful it was with brel

[tulip charm]

How else are they gonna get people to swipe? You want to equalize all titles? You think the guy that got 300k milage points is gonna want the same title as little Timmy f2p? Fk that

[uncut dirge]

But it also kind of discourages whaling though

If someone misses the title then whaling doesn't always solve their gatekeeping problem

[tawny lion]

This game doesn’t bring in new players. Their current whales are all that matter

[tulip charm]

some of those title gatekeepers do take it way over the top, but that’s just how it is, you deal with it, and some of those titles aren’t even real, they are bakers

[uncut dirge]

Which means that the whales that plan ahead but can't do it end up relying on buses (or I guess pilots in this case since there are no buses)

[quaint wasp]

I mean if you want a rare title that means something, grind out mo.arch before hell goes

Just need a pair of hands

Timmy f2p can get it

[obtuse oyster]

ehhhh

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[obtuse oyster]

rather we go back to the old days of 10x title being the go to

[quaint wasp]

That's why I dony have sympathy with players getting gatekept cause no title

There are other f2p titles that gets you into most lobbies

[obtuse oyster]

depends

[tulip charm]

and its not even sympathy related, there is plenty of raid lobbies with blue titles

and they clear just fine

[obtuse oyster]

longer the raid been out the less froniter title has weight but that's because more people having 10x then people with frontier title

but the brief month before that point can be kinda cringe

[uncut dirge]

Let's check back on the lobby situation in 4-6 weeks, shall we?

[obtuse oyster]

act4 lf all conequeror title or abyssal soveriegn

[tulip charm]

someone from my static thats only doing normals have a good point

[obtuse oyster]

[tulip charm]

they fked up sending out 4 big raids for prog during holidays, but if the playerbase is trying to clear week1 hm all 4 gates on multiple chars, clear out mokoko event shop, finish all ark grid 2nd lines and get ancient cores

thats not the game's problem, thats a your brain have issues problem

[uncut dirge]

Yes, but we don't have an infinite depth player pool anymore

[tawny lion]

Right now the player pool is the healthiest it’s been in months. But let’s see in 3 months how it is

[uncut dirge]

If players feel like they fall behind (whatever that means) or their gatekeeping feels like it takes too long

They are a little less likely to log in the next time

[uncut dirge]

It always goes up on a new update

[tawny lion]

I honestly would not be surprised in 4K ccu in 3 months

[uncut dirge]

I mean it SHOULD go up on a new update

[tulip charm]

thats a player problem, if they "FEEL they fall behind" then stay "behind" there is plenty of people in that content range

[uncut dirge]

In fact, lost ark is the weirdest I've seen out of all games where player base drops off a few weeks after new update

[paper scroll]

1 day after the new raids came out theres alrdy parties requiring title for alts and today half the lobbies are requiring titles kek

[quaint wasp]

Ye entitled

[uncut dirge]

Typically in other games or stays high

[obtuse oyster]

real and true

[obtuse oyster]

not really

[uncut dirge]

Yes, but a "player problem" ends up being a "game problem" when many players feel like it

[quaint wasp]

I used to require 10x title on my 5th and 6th reclear week 2

Giga ez raids

[obtuse oyster]

all games experience a downwards trend after people consume whatever content is released

[tawny lion]

It isn’t a player problem when devs design it this way

[paper scroll]

this game is basically the race to gatekeep asap

[uncut dirge]

Yes, but lost ark doesn't get to previous levels

[obtuse oyster]

what, you don't like progging 2 raids back to back

[uncut dirge]

It drops below previous levels after new raid releases

[paper scroll]

u fomo giga hone and spend all ur gold so ur hm/tfm rdy day 1 then acquire as much titles as possible so u can gatekeep hard asap

[obtuse oyster]

and be on a time crunch to get a clear within the first two weeks or the 3rd week

[uncut dirge]

Also, the devs didn't really design two progs back to back

Remember, in KR Kaz didn't unlock until the next week

[tawny lion]

I didn’t have time to play act 4 yet. I’m gonna be cooked tomorrow

[tulip charm]

i don't like this, if it wasn't during holiday season then i woudn't mind nearly as much

[obtuse oyster]

they could've seperated by a week

[uncut dirge]

They only had to prog act 4 in the first week

The TFMers had to do both, but they were way overgeared for act 4

[paper scroll]

we cleared nm act 4 2 gates in like 1hr first time it really doesnt need gatekeeping much but ul see from week 2 theres req for the hm clear title to get into a nm gate 4 kek

[tulip charm]

i am just wondering who actually wanted this

[uncut dirge]

Otherwise they wouldn't be able to do kaz

[uncut dirge]

We did, apparently, by complaining about the TFM race

AGS did that as a response to the players complaining, no?

[obtuse oyster]

honestly no fking clue

[tulip charm]

that makes no sense, what they did with the kaz race is very good, push it back by 2 weeks

[paper scroll]

i mean it was obvious that sg/ags should have launched act 4 last month then final gate this month rather than both 2gether

[obtuse oyster]

yes which gave us kaz on release

so not really

[tawny lion]

They thought we were gonna get powerpass and express in Nov, now it’s in Dec so it’s all fkd

That’s why no act 4 las month

[paper scroll]

doesnt really make sense to push back act 4 still

[safe lark]

we are nothing but dust

[tulip charm]

no, sending out act4 at this time is completely fine, but they should have delayed the final act release, then 2 weeks after final act release, unlock the race

[paper scroll]

hell no

[tulip charm]

hell yes

[paper scroll]

there was giga content drought for ages

no way they should delay raids futher

[obtuse oyster]

just bodies to keep funny number up

[quaint wasp]

Should have brought back guardian raid event

[tulip charm]

i am not asking for them to delay act 4, i am asking them to delay final act

[paper scroll]

aegir brel and mord are very ez raids it was all hw for way 2 long

delaying final act is delaying raids

[lunar stag]

Question, how the f you deal with that semi wipe that starts appearing after 700X in gate one? Where a small orb flows down to his hand and he does a field wipe?

[paper scroll]

its better to push forward act 4

than to delay final gate

[tulip charm]

wtf, you voted for this 4 raids at same time during thanks giving didn't you

[paper scroll]

no i said push forward act 4

[sand marsh]

[paper scroll]

not delay final act

delaying content is never a good idea coz most amount of players leave during content drought

[obtuse oyster]

o7

[quaint wasp]

I'm not even progging this week cause business trip but I'm just big chilling

[lunar stag]

@sand marsh do you know how?

[quaint wasp]

No domo.for title

Fomo

[obtuse oyster]

yes, cause burning the players instead makes more sense

[tawny lion]

Lost ark players can handle getting burned - used to it

[paper scroll]

they had giga events in the summer that was the start to gear up for act 4, act 4 should have come out like octo or nov latest

[lunar stag]

Kazeros gate one counter mech where he grabs a small orb and he does insane amount of damage/wipe? It appears between 699 and 300.

[brittle hawk]

??? drought lmao

[quaint wasp]

Rage hone harder

[tulip charm]

your mindset is too good
some people in this game can't think like this anymore

[wind dagger]

But you are whale

[dire loom]

[paper scroll]

instead we had that stupid window where there was nothing for a few weeks not even mokoko event on and felt deadge

[brittle hawk]

how is there a drought if it was just act 4

[obtuse oyster]

nbnb

[uncut dirge]

The counter?

[obtuse oyster]

drought = when raid is hw

[brittle hawk]

i i i i i i

[quaint wasp]

timmy f2p can have what I have if they play efficiently

[paper scroll]

im saying we had drought from mord to act 4

thus push forward act 4

[lunar stag]

Yeah, the counter, do you just need to counter? He also gets a shield

[quaint wasp]

I quit for 2.5 years

[dire loom]

what that mean

[tawny lion]

Mord is fkn. Boring raid idk how u guys run that 6x

[brittle hawk]

i enjoy mordum

[obtuse oyster]

reward could go on a seperate tool

[brittle hawk]

brel is boring to me

[quaint wasp]

Chase top parse

[obtuse oyster]

and it rolled low

[wind dagger]

I enjoy the new raid act 4 raid

[brittle hawk]

i actually really like mordum

[quaint wasp]

Brel just cutscene spam

[paper scroll]

mord was especially shit coz g1 and 2 was giga bad

[tawny lion]

Cuz it’s free

[dire loom]

ye but it rolled everything + all material

[paper scroll]

brel was the better raid coz both gates were decent

[obtuse oyster]

no pouch

[tawny lion]

U really enjoy g1-g2 mord 6x?

[uncut dirge]

You got to coop counter him and then break the shield

[quaint wasp]

G3 worth

[brittle hawk]

not g1

[quaint wasp]

Only fun raid atm

[brittle hawk]

actually just g3

[tawny lion]

Dogshit sg can’t even delete g1

[dire loom]

1 mord cool now

g1

[brittle hawk]

even if they don't delete it just don't make every attack push PLEASE

and stop with the constant phasing

[dire loom]

i adapted to g1 immediately and got a 99 lol

https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/logs/PJAkCrf

cool raid

[tulip charm]

interesting changes they did ye

[paper scroll]

g3 mord is like old brel cube, that should be g1, remove current g1 and g2 then add an actual g2 thats a fight where boss moves

brel raid was well designed, both gates good, aegir g1 is pretty bad but not as bad as mord g1

[brittle hawk]

that didn't happen ever

they didn't add a gate

they never would

also mordum is the final boss of the act so it would have to be the last gate in any case

[paper scroll]

jus make a 2 gate mord, g1 is g3 now and g2 is mord that moves

[dire loom]

bro aint got no legs

[brittle hawk]

give him a wheelchar

[paper scroll]

put him in arti wheelchair

[brittle hawk]

[dire loom]

its not a wheelchair its a huge 2 handed gun

[wind dagger]

i need 10m

gold

quick

[sand marsh]

wtf

[wind dagger]

?

[sand marsh]

they all said ty papa

feel like im old

[wind dagger]

wellll.....

i should prog kazeros today

[lunar stag]

I get a support relic core on my zerker, what do I do with it?

[wind dagger]

usei on your zerker

[lunar stag]

Its brand power...

[wind dagger]

support zerk

[quiet flower]

Kicked from Kaz prog party for "low dps" and they couldn't replace, so group disbanded

[sand marsh]

W

@final gale not too bad

[quaint wasp]

how low

[wind dagger]

Hahahahaha

[quiet flower]

[wind dagger]

But question is

Did you had low dps?

[quiet flower]

Was like 200mil

Which is low compared to them sure

[sand marsh]

hard mode?

[quiet flower]

Yes

It's prog and I'm 2.5k CP

[wind dagger]

[sand marsh]

yea thats below min

[quiet flower]

Literally didn't miss any DPS checks

They just didn't like my drip

[quaint wasp]

Below min is a kick

[quiet flower]

What is min

[sand marsh]

267mil before sidereal

which you should aim for, for comfy clear

without sidereal its a bit less.

your progging so its gonna be low but thats you should aim for.

sorry thats g2. g1 is 250mil

[quiet flower]

need 4mil shards to hone to 1740

[quaint wasp]

Swipe

[wind dagger]

[quaint wasp]

Or buy bus

[wind dagger]

I should like buy mordum bus maybe

[quiet flower]

If they're being sold next week

[quaint wasp]

@sand marsh your music

[sand marsh]

huh

[quaint wasp]

Dont you bus

[sand marsh]

ya

[quiet flower]

NA though

[sand marsh]

this is a g1 clear if ur curious

2mins left on the clock

slayer is pumping kekw

[quiet flower]

Just rough to prog on GS and do high dps

Miss rose blossom? bye bye damage

[sand marsh]

for sure possible. support care is extremely important

especially if you wanna greed

[quiet flower]

Relic Divine Protection from Cube and now from Chaos Gate

[sand marsh]

blocked breakdown

breaker doesn't count but ye

[uncut dirge]

so if you play both supp and dps valk

you're gonna need:

1. los
2. earth dps
3. fire dps
4. lightning dps
5. lwc
6. earth support
7. fire support
8. lightning support

[sand marsh]

los and lwc are free

[uncut dirge]

no i mean you need that many card setups

[sand marsh]

if youve been playing actively since t4 launch, most of those are almost completed or completed

[uncut dirge]

tos witch between

[sand marsh]

yeah no diff

[uncut dirge]

cause guardian is lightning, mordum is earth, act 4 is fire

[sand marsh]

earth is kazeros as well but yeah

nothing mass preset cant solve

[uncut dirge]

yeah but you need 8 pages of card sets unlocked

that's expensive

[sand marsh]

a few hundred blue crystals. one time purchase across entire roster

you already have like 4/5+ card sets unlocked anyways

or most ppl do

[quiet flower]

Not having much luck

[sand marsh]

om

[quiet flower]

Well I hit 2.6k CP at least

[sand marsh]

lol g2 hm is insane wtf xddd

[safe lark]

when guide senpai

[dusk cape]

is it time to sell the frog stash?

[fleet plover]

The time has already passed

books are dropping down in prices

sell now or you will lose even more gold

[dusk cape]

yea exactly! its hard to tell when the peak is. unless it's past

[fleet plover]

The best time to sell was 1-2 weeks before Kaz release

[dusk cape]

but still good enough

atleast in EUC it hasnt dropped that drastically

[fleet plover]

They will just decrease from this point so sell them now

[burnt tree]

the peak was the 2 weeks we had no Paradise

and we dont need to wait 10 weeks to get netherkeys

this time

[dusk cape]

we technically dont have it even now

not the hell part atleast

[burnt tree]

b4 they disabled Hell, some ppl got netherkeys

the idea isnt that its disabled now, the mode has returned regardless

[safe lark]

you can send me books

[uncut dirge]

from normal mode

[dusk cape]

ok they are listed

how are these prices looking compared to NA

[brittle hawk]

some books got sold out and are now 2x more expensive

[sand marsh]

yeah i scalped them

[burnt tree]

whale

[quiet flower]

So many clashes in G2

Perfecto

[wise pasture]

doing the relic book achievment be like

[safe lark]

take random

[burnt tree]

the fact u can choose to select or get shafted is crazy 💀

[safe lark]

all just to satisfy korean masochism

[dusk cape]

its so whales that got all them books, dont feel like they are left out

[quiet flower]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mask-do-i-feel-lucky-gif-12404491

Imagine if Random = Tradeable

[swift tree]

BUT MY INCOME!

[burnt tree]

as a poor f2p i cant afford to gamble

[swift tree]

riding their golden whale mount

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/yujin-an-yujin-yujin-an-yujin-ive-ive-yujin-gif-25403341

[swift tree]

"I'm so poor my Astray doesn't even have polygons!"

See!

[burnt tree]

My astray doesnt even have a skin

thats astray from temu

dam all the loa koreans i watch on YT play Aion 2 now

https://tenor.com/view/i-get-it-snoop-dogg-red-table-talk-i-understand-i-know-gif-16483599

[swift tree]

Chasing the sponsorship $ and views

[burnt tree]

i need to find someone who records the story in english

cause its interesting

[swift tree]

18 days Satho

[burnt tree]

for loa on?

[swift tree]

[sand marsh]

few hours into g2 kaz

after this mech is 2-2

[burnt tree]

frfr finally some interesting updates

instead of whatever we got this week

[fleet plover]

so what we do with these astrogems that we don't like

do we just fuse 3 into 1?

[burnt tree]

kill them

[sand marsh]

dont fuse unless it's high order

which is this

'

[fleet plover]

oh ok so only these you fuse?

and rest just keep for nothing?

[sand marsh]

from my understanding yes. the rest u can dismantle

you want high order so that you can activate your core

10P, 12P etc

The "P" in this case is order

[fleet plover]

how u dismantle these?

[sand marsh]

I would not fuse that relic one tho

that one is kinda good

[burnt tree]

ctrl click

or w/e

[fleet plover]

oh ok xD

[burnt tree]

right click

[fleet plover]

idk this system is way too complicated

I really don't like it

and full of trash RNG

[sand marsh]

it should be simplified

and RNG should exist to some degree

but too complicated for sure

[burnt tree]

it did launch with QoL but said thing aint cheap

also Director was like "too soon sorry"

[wind dagger]

i try to ark grid, but i can't ark grid

how do you ark grid

[burnt tree]

you must get a core

that activates it

so u do Act 4

[sand marsh]

ark grid dn

[fleet plover]

IF u get one that is good for ur class

and also u cut 100 astrogems until u get good

[sand marsh]

if u dont thats ok, you can get some CP increase via equipping astrogems into them

[burnt tree]

^

mine trash

[sand marsh]

at least for DPS you can get either builds core

for support, if u get dps core

ur fucked

xdd

[fleet plover]

I got good core for my class but it's legendary

and I can't activate it because all astrogems I cut are trash

[sand marsh]

yeah that'll come with time.

Legendary is harder to activate

Relic is easier

Relic+

[charred void]

can't wait to unlock the "gameplay changing" part in 2028 in the ark grid

[sand marsh]

i mean look at memo

that guy is giga unlucky and he has a somewhat okay ark gris

[charred void]

and gl to all the dragoonknight main swappers to catch up on that ark grid 💀

[zenith canyon]

surely they will get ark grid stuff

[quiet flower]

Holy gamer in my lobby

[brittle hawk]

[devout nymph]

when i wanted to get a stability gem

[zenith canyon]

14pity

[devout nymph]

nice exactly what i wanted

[brittle hawk]

[surreal gyro]

Kazzy G1 HM done

time to suffer now

[zenith canyon]

[burnt tree]

giga

[sage tartan]

in kaz g2 the stare mech we got it nerfed rigth ?

[quiet flower]

7 man clear

[cinder mango]

where is general keknobi

[burnt tree]

asleep

[wintry depot]

anyone has the cheatsheet for kazeros

[burnt tree]

this?

[wintry depot]

ty

[sharp rock]

im freeee

[bitter inlet]

Hopefully I’m next

[sharp rock]

100 %

[sand marsh]

man desert phase of kazeros is crazy lmao

[faint grove]

surely it sticks

[burnt tree]

nah

[mystic basin]

Mods can we investigate this guys account

[safe lark]

ban all artists

[burnt tree]

frfr

[weak ginkgo]

now thats crazy

there aint any mokoko at 1690 ig lol

everyone fiending for one in brelsh hm

[sharp rock]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

no more bubbles

[lunar stag]

Even supp? What is this? Supp racism lmao

"yeah even a filthy supp can come if it's a Koko"

[weak ginkgo]

xD

[quiet flower]

Not wrong though is it

[bitter inlet]

No express going on so basically no mokokos

Idk what ags was cooking

[weak ginkgo]

worst way they decided to do btw

they but mokoko event without express

which is already bad

but also

who tf has time to farm moko coins

in lower raids

[lunar stag]

They were not cooking

[weak ginkgo]

when theres TWO new raids

to learn and clear

should've just delayed the moko event too

[lunar stag]

The Kazeros path is just a copy of Korea which was terrible

[weak ginkgo]

i hope they atleast extend it

[lunar stag]

At least we get extra bonus event but still

[bitter inlet]

Yeah the path was a huge nothing burger

[lunar stag]

I guess they were waiting for December with the update that come with progression changes to release an express

And pass

[mystic basin]

Who ever decided astrogem cutting was a good thing I hope you dint have a nice day

How do you realize elixirs were a bad system and then turn around and do the exact same thing to astrogems

[weak ginkgo]

classic lost ark

[mystic basin]

Its so much rng to even activate your core let alone get anything good on the gems

[bitter inlet]

I got 20 points

But it’s on blue jewels

[neon cedar]

Elixirs had a chance to reduce cost. Astrogems have a chance to double cost

[bitter inlet]

[vagrant cradle]

it's great

[bitter inlet]

I didn’t realize that until I slowed down and looked at it

And saw the gold cost double

Horrible system

[quiet flower]

[brittle hawk]

but but but it's good

it gives you something to grind for

[mystic basin]

No its not they need to stop making systems that are so rng dependant

[brittle hawk]

im taking the piss out of some bozos that say shit like that

[mystic basin]

Thatsvthe same problem with paradise and why ppl just gave up on it at a point

[neon cedar]

This game stinks

[wind dagger]

me having at max a 150k cp

others having 300 or more

like

what am I supposed to do against rng

[neon cedar]

[uncut dirge]

Gimme

[wind dagger]

Gimme

[vagrant cradle]

Gimme

[undone summit]

Gimme

[modern hatch]

do i eat it or sell it

[vagrant cradle]

i would eat it if you need adrenaline still personally

[uncut dirge]

I would sell it

Unless it gives you something in the near future

[formal frost]

dismantle it /s

[uncut dirge]

You can most likely buy it back in the future for less gold

[vagrant cradle]

real

[uncut dirge]

But that does mean you gotta wait for a while

[burnt tree]

send it to me

im 18/20 adren, if ppl donate me 2 of em ill be done

[wintry depot]

just buy them

[final sable]

Sell and just win with fire/ice keys

[burnt tree]

thats a whole 600k

[sharp rock]

bruh

[final sable]

[sharp rock]

donating 600 mil 😄

https://tenor.com/view/cummins-gif-12535975135255283466

[burnt tree]

where frog

[wintry depot]

i bought 2 gems at 1.4m in 3 weeks

you can do it

[uncut dirge]

What's surprising to me is how there aren't buses for the new raid

[vagrant cradle]

rich

[final sable]

I sold all my gems

[wintry depot]

i just do my raids

[sharp rock]

not to me

[modern hatch]

there are only pilots, which are against tos

[final sable]

I looked at the hm final act guide and pf

[uncut dirge]

Looks like there was 1 act 4 hm bus sold total

In the bus discord at least

[final sable]

And alt f4d

[uncut dirge]

And a few normals and Kaz normal

[final sable]

Didnt feel like playing

[lunar olive]

what is kaz hm cp gatekeep requirement atm?

[wintry depot]

not like ags cares xDD

[uncut dirge]

I see

[final sable]

Nm is 100% bussable

Act 4 that is

[wintry depot]

dont ask in multiple channels

and from what ive seen, 2700

[final sable]

I dunno about act 2 as i havent even bothered to try in nm

[uncut dirge]

Gate 1 of kazeros is surprisingly doable

[wintry depot]

zzzzzzzzzzzz

[uncut dirge]

Other than the stagger check

[modern hatch]

700x seems like the hardest part so far tbh

[uncut dirge]

Yep

[burnt tree]

People progging for TFM lol

[wintry depot]

i guess theres a supp shortage in kaz nm

good for me i guess

[uncut dirge]

When we got past 700x for the second time we also passed 500x

[burnt tree]

they dont clear on purpose yet

[uncut dirge]

And when we passed 500x with everyone we got to phase 3

[uncut dirge]

Yeah but you'd think there would be buses for act 4

[burnt tree]

heard ppl got trouble with the JGs

[uncut dirge]

Hmm

[burnt tree]

and try to make it consistent as 4 or w/e

[uncut dirge]

I feel like you could still do 6c

[burnt tree]

probably

Mordumb busses started as 6C anyway

[vagrant cradle]

wtf heavy armor is almost 13k now

[wintry depot]

you didnt see vph price on wednesday

they were 30k

xd

[safe lark]

skip

[livid tree]

https://tenor.com/view/viralwigs-gifs-viralwigs-stan-twitter-viralwigs-bless-me-money-wise-gif-16858609003772994862

thaemine

[sharp rock]

i cannot grind more, why is it just 50k storable

[vagrant cradle]

spend them

[sharp rock]

[burnt tree]

Send 5m gold

[sharp rock]

bro im half poor

[celest tiger]

in this economy? aren't we all

[burnt tree]

wtf does this mean?

thought we can unlock HA at 1540 or w/e

[neon cedar]

Apparently its bugged

[celest tiger]

maybe still bugged?

[burnt tree]

still?

shit company

[neon cedar]

Idk when it broke but yes

[celest tiger]

i guess they're waiting until weekly maint

[burnt tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1418938737567596634/Karina-What_Sath.gif

Aion 2 where are u? SG makes me suffer

[celest tiger]

they're getting their bug list together

https://tenor.com/view/fehlerhaft-fehler-bugs-bug-gif-26196067

[wise pasture]

hm is next

[livid tree]

the combat play style look so much alike to throne liberty

[wise pasture]

surely gonna be easy, surely

[celest tiger]

me wanna use hell keys

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[burnt tree]

If you don't like it don't play it

And they still have Aion 1s gameplay mode if people prefer it

[livid tree]

waiting for global tho

[burnt tree]

Unironically tab target probably better for PvP

[livid tree]

hope it doesnt end up like throne and liberty

[burnt tree]

TL was a new IP

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

learn to aim

[burnt tree]

Do you even know how chaotic pvp is in aion? lol

[fleet plover]

Lovely times

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/zerg-attack-starcraft2-zerg-zerg-vs-terran-ultralisk-gif-20370488

[fleet plover]

[wise pasture]

about his

[burnt tree]

Learn to aim but you got a templar flashing around the stage taking zero damage

Instead of targeting the healers and buffers

[wise pasture]

ye, bonk him

[burnt tree]

Saw some pvp clips

Templar is unkillable

1v3 he wasn't taking damage

[uncut dirge]

so do we just merge green gems

[burnt tree]

He died after 7 ppl dropped on him in total

[burnt tree]

Delete

Kill

Salvage

[wise pasture]

if you wanna waste gold, sure

[uncut dirge]

wait what

[burnt tree]

He's a whale he'll be fine

[uncut dirge]

what do you do with them then?

[burnt tree]

I just told u

[burnt tree]

Salvage

[livid tree]

seems impossible

[uncut dirge]

it's actually not that hard

[wise pasture]

like one of the easiest ones to do on nm

[safe lark]

its hard

[uncut dirge]

yeah

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[burnt tree]

Just do a run where everyone is stacked with ark grid in 2-3 months

[uncut dirge]

on normal mainly gotta avoid getting electrocuted by 475, 450

[burnt tree]

You won't have time to get electrocuted

[uncut dirge]

in hard mode it's that final phase

that will often cause electrocution if you dont pay attention

[slender sky]

was the launch that bad?

[nova garden]

[burnt tree]

Their stock dropped by 20%

[uncut dirge]

imagine lost ark china p2w

it's worse

[burnt tree]

They added the pay2win items

After they said they wouldn't

Removed them in emergency maintenance

[nova garden]

Heavy monetization was expected given who it’s from and where it was released. But this blew everyone’s expectations

[burnt tree]

You have them recorded say they will remove the items for the live game

The p2w packs being a thing only on test server

Then people find out they added them as bonuses

Ripge

[slender sky]

[burnt tree]

But yeah they removed them now so its w.e

They are also finishing development on the PC UI

So that should be fiiine

[nova garden]

I’m busy playing tfd right now, so I’ll play aion2 later.

[uncut dirge]

you know what i'm afraid of

PC UI

with microsoft fucking windows, ram prices, gpu prices, motherboard prices

what if in the future this stuff just prices out pc gaming

and it's all mobile games with pc as an afterthought

or like a port from mobile

[midnight drift]

only half people able to get in and the game itself not that good

[uncut dirge]

looked fantastic though

[midnight drift]

does not feel good

i played a bit nothing special

looks better than Lost Ark for sure

[wintry depot]

yeah no shit

its ue5 compared to ue3

i still fidn chars looks like shit

[midnight drift]

SG = Director Bozo + 2 minor Bozo

NCsoft = 2 Bozo

SG > NCsoft

[midnight drift]

the char is hot

[wintry depot]

meh

looks ai slop af

[queen grail]

Did you trry kaz? @wintry depot

[uncut dirge]

okay

why do people think better engine = more attractive models and textures

i gotta know

it has some effect, but pretty minor

[wind dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/trojan-horse-gif-15858391086454759725

[midnight drift]

the skin feel good and the boobs can be enhanced

[nova garden]

Gecco was cooking with the character creator tho

[fresh flint]

For what game

[celest tiger]

i'm assuming Aion 2, sounds worse than Aion 1

[wind dagger]

if someone could be my sugar mommy

so I can buy this diving skin from prestige shop

[fresh flint]

I saw a video

Someone bought the 50k usd boat on where winds meet

[uncut dirge]

boat?

isn't it a xianxia game?

where flying sword

or is it a flying boat

[midnight drift]

probably Elon

[wind dagger]

need prestige points

currenlty have 5.1k

[celest tiger]

i need yearning island soul 😭

[queen grail]

For Hard Act 4, shesus.

[bitter inlet]

2800 combat score for act 4 is od

[wintry depot]

just finished g1 nm

can you watch your friendlist

[swift magnet]

like fk u 3 1/2 h g1 act 4 and cant clear ...ppl dying to nothing greed safezone mech and cant get in there in time. pinging wrong shadow when they cant identify them

[celest tiger]

yeah i won't be there for a while via causal

[bitter inlet]

Just unlock your ark grid

Ez 300-500 combat score

[queen grail]

Expecting me to deduce from that what you're doing, bold.

It just says "Final day" smh, isn't that just, the raid?

[fleet plover]

why only chaos

[brittle hawk]

I BOUGHT the expensive kitten

yay

[brittle hawk]

Aw

[errant fable]

[brittle hawk]

Didn't there use to be a way to reskin pets

Or am i tripping

[fleet plover]

yes

ALT+P

[brittle hawk]

yay all my pets are cat

[queen grail]

Said fuck it and clearerd it on normal on my alt.

[vagrant cradle]

[queen grail]

so many raids still

[vagrant cradle]

this should be 50k at most

[burnt tree]

is it a new skin? xd

[wintry depot]

yes

its the new one

[burnt tree]

oh

[wintry depot]

skin chest is 200k

[burnt tree]

interesting

yeah thats too expensive for new sht

[brittle hawk]

Inflation

[vagrant cradle]

the weapon skin chest alone only costs 650 rc

[brittle hawk]

The new gold sink doesnt seem to be sinking gold

[burnt tree]

for it to sink gold people need to actually get useable shit

[vagrant cradle]

how do I sink my gold if I don't get blue or purple jewels?

[burnt tree]

^

and even then they need to get lucky

and u cant make it rain cores either

[brittle hawk]

chu chu

[burnt tree]

you can send me some gold ezpz

[brittle hawk]

Cores have nothing to do with sinking gold themselves

Its the gems which have shameful drop rates

[burnt tree]

doesnt matter

this still isnt a system you can interact with right away

like the previous ones

[cyan elk]

we need frog

#makeFrogGreatAgain

[burnt tree]

2 frogs

[brittle hawk]

Which were? Elixirs are literally the only one that come to mind

Transcendence no

Karma definitely not

Even advanced honing no

[burnt tree]

doesnt matter i dont really care anymore

When is LOA ON

im already over it this patch

[brittle hawk]

idk go play that chinese game

[burnt tree]

daily reset in 3 hours

i will

not that its ur bussiness

[brittle hawk]

what a strange time to have a daily reset#

[burnt tree]

its a global game

not EU/NA

[midnight marlin]

<t:1765090800:F>

[burnt tree]

i know

im just not enjoying this patch

and want it to be over

https://tenor.com/view/noa-pajama-blue-archive-angry-skill-gif-7704635827689755866

[quiet flower]

This patch is great

I'm enjoying HM prog

[midnight marlin]

you asked

[slender sky]

no