lost-ark-discussions

[queen grail]

It would have read the same.

[obtuse oyster]

everyone is gonna be a relatively "even" playing field

[sand marsh]

Let's say Bobby has a perfect one I need, I'd want to buy it from Bobby instead of relying it on just luck.

[obtuse oyster]

cope

[sand marsh]

Not a direct correlation, but imagine if this was extended to accessories lol.

[obtuse oyster]

Game Forge killed Sword of Legends

[queen grail]

Let's say we wait and see how bad/good the system is before we make the market even worse only caring about rmt'er's busser's and baldies?

[sand marsh]

The fact that you still think I rmt is hilarious.

We already know what the system is like.

[queen grail]

If they made acc's have a 5x chance to roll good and also drop way more then I'd say that sounds nice.

[obtuse oyster]

yes, people who have the means to spend to get it and people who could have profit get shafted

but we don't get into the relic book situation

[fresh flint]

Honestly I know nothing about the system other than that it gives more CS and you play differently somehow

[sand marsh]

Well you can argue the relic book situation is only that bad because of rate of acquisition.

I think that's the main component of it.

[obtuse oyster]

which guess what they did with jewels

they buffed the acquistion

for the trade being all bound

[sand marsh]

They can increase acquisition and still allow you to trade with other players...

Why not do both?

[obtuse oyster]

beacuse that is whatever decision AGS and SG came too

and I'm honestly fine it with it

Yeah, I don't get to make gold off early fomo but the system gets to be in a healthier spot

[queen grail]

You want KR as publisher, and think like this You know KR would never give you both the cake and the soda, you're lucky if you'd get a bit of cake and soda splashed in your face.

[sand marsh]

I'm aware it's good for the casuals

But for me I'd prefer to buy it.

[obtuse oyster]

and that's the issue

[sand marsh]

If the RNG wasn't so bad I wouldn't think that way xdd

[fresh flint]

V true tho

[queen grail]

I'd love to make money too, but I'd much rather have a faster self-gain of them because market tend to become real stinky real fast.

[obtuse oyster]

You mitigate rng by bussing

[sand marsh]

Ultimately a design flaw by smilegate

[sand marsh]

Bussing won't increase my odds of getting an ancient core

I wish it did

[obtuse oyster]

it's not just the cores, you goof ball

the jewels are just as giga as the core

if not more

[sand marsh]

Yeah I know but how do you think bussing migates the RNG of it

Becuase I have more gold?

[obtuse oyster]

More gold = more attempts

[queen grail]

Smh, stupid discord.

He's still a goof.

[obtuse oyster]

More attempts = faster acquistion of maxing it out

[sand marsh]

I'm almost certain memorizer said there is a weekly buyout of the jewel random box?

that is roster limit?

[obtuse oyster]

You can buy jewels

from the AH in kr

You can buy jewels from their f4 shop

and you can exchange mats for jewels

[sand marsh]

Yeah I know. Are you not talking about the context of our roster bound version? or KR?

If we had the KR version yeah I agree.

[obtuse oyster]

I'm not talking about the bound version

[sand marsh]

It would mitigate it.

[fresh flint]

oh, cool

[obtuse oyster]

The bound version is gonna be now geared towards how many 1700s do you have

[sand marsh]

But even if I didn't bus, im the kind of person to save up as much gold as I need to buy the best jewels

Cause at this point, i'm not honing alts outside paradise

[queen grail]

But you do bus, and you make a lot more than other's

@obtuse oyster Rat Slayer [1200] be doing some damage on good old skolla 🦂

[sand marsh]

Yeah just stating if I didn't, I'd still operate on the same logic lol.

Which is dumping every penny of gold into main.

[queen grail]

Sure, but that's not the point, point was unbound makes market just devolve into a market for busser's / rmt'ers / whale's to propele fast ahead of everyone, at least now It's more equal with the main difference being "roster bound" for people with multi-1700+ roster's.

If the drop rate is a lot better, It's a lot better system for sure.

Who knows, maybe we can avoid the trashy 4-5 weeks raid's zero upgrade like some people in KR.

[sand marsh]

Yeah I understand that.

[queen grail]

Because that shit is not fun.

[sand marsh]

I just prefer buying it

Sitting in a UI and cutting something over and over is not fun.

Reason why I hated elixir/trans so much

[obtuse oyster]

you would be doing that regardless

[sand marsh]

At least I'd be doing it with a jewel of a grade I want.

[queen grail]

Now that's a title.

[obtuse oyster]

[sand marsh]

Saw a KR player do a few dailies and got trash

that's gonna be me cuz im unlucky

[obtuse oyster]

me when I lie

[sand marsh]

i havent cut a single high/mid in like

months

so sad man

[modern hatch]

Ive cut one high mid ever

[sand marsh]

I cut every accessory I get though. Across 8 characters x.x

[queen grail]

"Unlucky".

He does less raids than me, meanwhile has cut what? 8 HH's

unlucky.

[sand marsh]

I've only cut one ever high/high

rest were high/mid

[queen grail]

Oh my bad, and you have gotten sideral

"Unlucky".

[sand marsh]

nope

that is zheng

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-whatever-lies-gif-3602502

You know people are lucky when they only have a few posts in #rng-luck-fails they be hiding their mass luck

[fresh flint]

i hateeeeeeeeeeee g1 mord

fucking delete it man

[queen grail]

[fresh flint]

trying to ass sniff while the camera is angled at a 106.225 angle is annoying

[supple surge]

[queen grail]

I'll be honest, I don't really try much on that gate, It's so ass.

And It's not like you can really wipe on it.

[fresh flint]

yeah i give up after a certain point

trying to stay on g1s ass is just pain

Gg cat turned WiFi off and now I’m gonna lose my mordum for the week

[obtuse oyster]

om

[fresh flint]

The rage

Istg

[lunar hedge]

Cinder finally did something

[fresh flint]

stfu

[queen grail]

The team didn't wait for you? @fresh flint

Shit team.

[fresh flint]

i dont know

i havent loaded

its a shit fucking game with shit fucking client

STEAM. OF ALL FUCKING PLACES.

[queen grail]

We waited like, 10min or so today for 2 people that dc'ed before we opened chest in Strike, only shit team's don't wait.

[fresh flint]

well i

IF IT WOULD LOAD

[obtuse oyster]

xdd

[fresh flint]

I COULD GO SEE

the seizure warning ebing the longest part makes me so mad

BITCH GOOOOO

[queen grail]

They dced twice, same people, once during boss, we finished it with 3 death and legit 1 platform left.

And then they dc'ed after kill but before chest feelsbad.

But at least they got reward, a legendary box

[fresh flint]

Omg they waited

Thank GOD

[queen grail]

good team

[fresh flint]

yeah they are super chill about it

ugh thank god

[queen grail]

I've never understood getting mad at someone for dc Like, what do you want them to do about it? But that's good, hopefully G2-3 is smooth ⛵

[tulip charm]

how is this fair, what in the fuck kind of rng is this

i got 12x relic chest from strong hm in a row?

2 weeks straight, to end the raid

[fresh flint]

we've re'd once already

xD

[queen grail]

Restart? Ohh, what happen?

[obtuse oyster]

@queen grail this year emote competition has some banger emotes

[queen grail]

ohh? what we got?

[obtuse oyster]

they haven't closed the submission part yet

[queen grail]

Are you buying 6x of the new Bard skin?

[obtuse oyster]

om

probably just two

[queen grail]

So what emotes are there? Show some pic's @obtuse oyster

[obtuse oyster]

https://discord.com/channels/889990467180175440/1430313933490753658

[queen grail]

Oh, It's AGS doing it I didn't know

cute

Bro, this is just Chuckles

[fresh flint]

SOMEONE FUCKING KILLED ME

ON ORB SOAKING

[queen grail]

https://youtube.com/shorts/bRwbuW9YJxo?si=vG1dJmhzy4fEnZk3 @obtuse oyster

[fresh flint]

@queen grail

Anvil fell on me by half a pixel

And then I got assasinated during orb soak

[queen grail]

Oh no rip

https://tenor.com/view/wile-e-coyote-tiny-toon-adventures-looney-tunes-anvil-gif-4632930310475529830

@fresh flint Raiding.

[fresh flint]

yeah literally

i was moving to get ready to hyper

nope

get fucked

[lunar hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/anvil-drop-comedy-cartoons-gif-9227158

[fresh flint]

xD?

[queen grail]

I'm so late on this only 47 more times.

@obtuse oyster This shit takes, forever

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/dnd-legends-of-avantris-chuckles-avantris-d%26d-animated-gif-733186633681372295

[fresh flint]

Man what a waste

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/chuckles-the-clown-dnd-gif-7199959581989019233

[fresh flint]

#effort

[queen grail]

@obtuse oyster Wheremyquest

WhatIdo

So that's this needs to be 50 for that quest?

That, semes wrong

[fresh flint]

your reputation

[queen grail]

where do you see that for the Keeper?

[fresh flint]

idk tbh

never did it

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/this-has-all-been-very-very-helpful-thank-you-drinking-tea-sarcastic-helpful-gif-11224451

[fresh flint]

yw

[tawny lion]

Pab or feral

[fresh flint]

idk

[queen grail]

wtf is that helmet.

[swift tree]

if the cranks break during smithing, you shove this guy in

[obtuse oyster]

@queen grail feelsbad both my giga uptime run ended in a early wipe

[queen grail]

Classic.

[obtuse oyster]

leader didn't nineveh pillars and on teh second run they left a sliver of stagger bar on prokel

[queen grail]

Stagger Prokel?

But ye, to fail nin pillar's is pepega, just nin early if you don't know timing.

Oh, wait, I get it now, they failed that part, lol, ye that's just so dumb.

[obtuse oyster]

[queen grail]

Wait, wtf

72k???

[obtuse oyster]

when I register it was not staggered it was too late

[queen grail]

OK

[obtuse oyster]

3 people ran away (I assume expecting the other to finish it) and just went boom

[queen grail]

It's gone up here too holy, I should have held all my books.

Would have made another 100-150k++

[obtuse oyster]

yeah, I sold it instead of using it

[queen grail]

jesus

[obtuse oyster]

gonna buy them when books go down for support

I'm chilling on cp

[queen grail]

These are my top 5 books, I might as well just Neck

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-cat-dead-cat-depressed-cat-laying-gif-11402833644907079653

[obtuse oyster]

[sand marsh]

700k for Kaz HM @obtuse oyster

[obtuse oyster]

bruh

that's insane

[sand marsh]

week 1 go crazy

[obtuse oyster]

is it 7c1?

[queen grail]

classic busser's abusing other's.

Ban em all.

[sand marsh]

yea i believe so

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-banned-banhammer-ban-hammer-mod-gif-458944485492049902

[obtuse oyster]

hell, 100k per busser is still crazy

[sand marsh]

[obtuse oyster]

If you honed to 1730 and don't have the gear to do hm kaz, that's on you

[sand marsh]

sadly i cant do it

dont have a 1730 alt

will have a 1720 alt tho

for act 4 hm

[fresh flint]

xdd

[obtuse oyster]

you didn't get lucky on free taps?

[obtuse oyster]

YOU RAT

that WAS YOU

[sand marsh]

i got lucky from 1700 to 1710 for free taps

dats about t

[fresh flint]

?

[mystic basin]

Holy whale

[queen grail]

I'll smack you.

With love.

[obtuse oyster]

someone listed an expert 10k lower then the most current one

[fresh flint]

i listed yesterday

[obtuse oyster]

72k to 63k

ah okay okay

mbmb

[fresh flint]

it was 65k yesterday

[obtuse oyster]

[fresh flint]

xD

[obtuse oyster]

fomo

[queen grail]

You have lv.10's or something?

Stinky Whale.

[obtuse oyster]

this is without 25 wep

[fresh flint]

1k - 2k under top price isnt horrible

i just want to sell it and be done

xd

[obtuse oyster]

so smol

[mystic basin]

[queen grail]

my Artist

[obtuse oyster]

even without the 10 I still have over 2.5kcp

without the ten

with

[queen grail]

My gear aint even that bad

[obtuse oyster]

bracelet carrying me hard

[queen grail]

I'm lacking books too

[obtuse oyster]

if I take off my bracelet

[queen grail]

And I'm 100% not buying books now

[obtuse oyster]

same

[queen grail]

They really need to increase drop somehow, It's going to be pandemonium after strike is gone.

[obtuse oyster]

honestly with arc grid

book fomo should go down

because it's a better dmg increase

[queen grail]

They really just naming npc's Rat Dirt

That's not cool

[fresh flint]

i hadnt bought boxes yet

im gucci now

[obtuse oyster]

how long till you reroll off reaper

[fresh flint]

lol i wont be

[obtuse oyster]

mbt 🐳

[fresh flint]

man AH 40 eats up gollllld

[queen grail]

[fresh flint]

whats the point of jellybeans if my shit dont hit

[obtuse oyster]

[obtuse oyster]

shit rng real

me when I get 2x ancestor grace into temar chisel

10/10

[fresh flint]

dude

i just got

3 RECHARGES

[tulip charm]

why didn't you buy them during frog?

[fresh flint]

4

7x on normal hit

eat my ass

damn

that ate me tf up[

[obtuse oyster]

huge cp gains tho

[fresh flint]

yeah

fr

[obtuse oyster]

wait

you were 1700? right

[fresh flint]

yeah

[obtuse oyster]

think you went up almost 200

[fresh flint]

oh

no

i was 1848

[queen grail]

Didn't have money and or market was still too high / ass.

so it is what it is.

[obtuse oyster]

ahhh

kk

almost 100cp still pretty good

[fresh flint]

Very good

Nm kaz is 1700 or 1710?

[obtuse oyster]

I bought drops and ms during frog

awak and expert is lower priority for me so I skipped to hone and then bought h/m's accs

[queen grail]

I'm also making it a personal rule to "only" buy like 15/20 books and gamble that Hell gives the rest

[obtuse oyster]

card packs and gold for special hell

[vagrant cradle]

I don't get nearly enough frostfire keys for that

[queen grail]

I mean, one time I did get like 1million in books.

But ye, mostly It's junk.

[obtuse oyster]

its also probably gonna be turned off for the start of s2

[queen grail]

One time, next time surely I'll get it too maybe

[obtuse oyster]

I don't see them running special keys in addition to the buffed up hell keys (early)

[queen grail]

It better have fire/frost at start, we need something to lower these market prices.

[wind dagger]

?

[fresh flint]

?

[tulip charm]

ye, even i fked up abit
i should have bought 2x more keenblunt to 15/20 towards the end of frog, but i cheaped out, not a good idea

at least i bought a lv10 for 2.7m, then 2 weeks later became 3.4 lol

[obtuse oyster]

@queen grail Loa M. Really is Lost Ark at home meme

[fresh flint]

i love the little corgis

istg

i want 60 of them

[queen grail]

Ugh.

Why

[queen grail]

Lv.10's, sheesh, whale.

Yo, where are my freeze immunity rune and fire weapons? @obtuse oyster

[sand marsh]

wtf i somehow have a character reskin ticket

since when did i have this

[tulip charm]

ONE lv10, i saved strike frog gold for that

[robust acorn]

imagine doing HM and u queue with these

[tulip charm]

why would you mobile when you can do this instead https://m.chzzk.naver.com/clips/DQpoe65ZYW

[swift tree]

@sand marsh

T&L looking for English Localization Team & Global Release PM

[sand marsh]

wtf

[swift tree]

doesn't help the rumours

[queen grail]

These Music Box Quest's are getting too real @obtuse oyster

[queen grail]

I can english, I've played a lot of games, I'm, responsible in doing my dailies, I can talk to other's in raids and convey tactics, man, maybe I found a job

[obtuse oyster]

2irl4me

[swift tree]

need 2+ years experience

[queen grail]

Np I got that

[swift tree]

Throne and Liberty

[queen grail]

But you move here to talk.

MY IMMERSION!

[queen grail]

ah, then nvm.

Excuse me game?

You have to type "Tipsy" To find Buzzed... Holy shit man...

[viscid sand]

interns didn't update the text to pointer in their backend

[queen grail]

And the clue for the quest is legit "Buzzed" Highlighted.

So I tried to do the Title for it too but nothing worked so I assumed "Ok, I'll just drink" And ofc that didn't freaking work...

[viscid sand]

ye, the title used to be Tipsy so they updated everything except that search pointer

[queen grail]

Jesus This quest is pretty dark.

[queen grail]

[quiet flower]

Why that sent here idk

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hiding-scared-cat-thaddeuswinter-thaddeus-winter-scared-gif-8846590460708131918

[swift tree]

Kazeros launch on 19th.
Meanwhile every other game launching shit that day

[cinder mango]

https://tenor.com/view/kazeros-lost-ark-mokoko-gif-2661148363146555124

[quiet flower]

Not EVE Online

Next patch o n18th

[sharp rock]

Cry

https://tenor.com/view/cat-death-walking-gif-25809835

[uncut dirge]

what i find funny are the people who complain about

inflation causing the situation

what they're missing is that the problem is caused by there not being enough books to go around

regardless what the price is (due to inflation or not), there aren't enough for the people that want them

[wind dagger]

It's so weird

Almost like every company joins together to release content at the same time

[zealous lintel]

T&L deadge?!

[lofty kite]

Guys so with new update all the trans and elixirs will disappear right?
Also do the new grown event will included char with 1681?

[brittle hawk]

that will happen in december

[lofty kite]

Oh so we can bin all the elixir stuff tho

Nice

[surreal gyro]

Korea will get this patch on Dec10, we shud be getting it 2 weeks later

[wind dagger]

yeye

[surreal gyro]

just wait until then though

[swift tree]

Nah, looks like both games are preparing for if/when their global publishing is taken over by the KR side

[swift tree]

US based marketing schedule, it's the week before Black Friday

Why major hollywood movies all usually come out around late-May

or Nov/Dec

[zealous lintel]

LOA too?

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[brittle hawk]

why two weeks, our patch is 17th

[wind dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-meme-smack-hit-gif-14682331153624420698

[lofty kite]

U guys think the progression event will be for char above 1680? I have two 1681 and i am worry they to high to participate

[surreal gyro]

1-2 weeks yeh dnt know when its dropping exactly

[surreal gyro]

i dont think it will be that high for the new event, in any case dont hone further until December 7th, they will showcase the new events there

[lofty kite]

81 should be still ok tho or is too high xD cos i remember they was doing till like 81 i guees

But ye i cross a bit the line

[swift tree]

Smilegate RPG and FireSpark both have "Western Release Project Manager" listed as open positions

tl;dr if AGS doesn't renew their contract, this game isn't going "poof"

[brittle hawk]

who knows if it's for lost ark though

[swift tree]

It literally says Lost Ark PC

[brittle hawk]

oh

[swift tree]

"Take over existing live NA/EU/RU work as a newly hired Project Manager with several years experience in the video game industry"
is the tl;dr

Mobile version doesn't have a "live" NA/EU/RU environment

[kind lotus]

@burnt tree wwm when

what time

[burnt tree]

2 PM PST, so like 13 hours-ish?

[swift tree]

@burnt tree thoughts on a smilegate takeover

[robust acorn]

whats this

[swift tree]

job listing on Smilegate RPG

[robust acorn]

smilegate booting amazon?

[burnt tree]

As in Smilegate taking over publishing? Whatever tbh xD

[fleet plover]

if SG would take over the West side the game would be dead in no time.

[robust acorn]

good

[burnt tree]

Id rather not at this point

[swift tree]

Amazon said they're slowing down on MMOs, and both T&L and LOA have put up job listings for western publishing team members

[burnt tree]

We will go backwards

[robust acorn]

good

finally freed

[burnt tree]

Just quit bro

[swift tree]

Or have a direct line to Smilegate

[burnt tree]

Its so simple

[burnt tree]

Direct line to SG is good

[swift tree]

they get to feel our wrath directly

[burnt tree]

SG taking over no

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-frog-kermit-laughing-gif-15641111

[burnt tree]

Atp our version is the best out of all regions anyway

[swift tree]

aye

[robust acorn]

korean event on west wil free us from job ark

[fleet plover]

Can't even imagine playing and getting only shit in the face with every new thing or event, SG acts like giving more then 5 leapstones and 1k shards will kill the game

[robust acorn]

[robust acorn]

time to move to where winds meet

am preloading now

[fleet plover]

I'll give it a try but it doesn't look that promising to me

Let's be honest there will never be a game close to LOA raiding wise, the combat and raids in this game is the best I saw in all the games ever created until now. At least in my opinion, of course everyone sees things different.

[burnt tree]

LOA and WWM are for different audiences

[robust acorn]

ye raiding is really fun now

[burnt tree]

One doesn't need to better or worse than the other to be enjoyed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1418938737567596634/Karina-What_Sath.gif

[tulip charm]

Wait what? What job listings?

[cinder mango]

https://tenor.com/view/green-guy-pokes-you-stick-poke-comagreeny-gif-12916307036305812419

[swift tree]

https://careers.smilegate.com/apply/announce/view?seq=5731 <- Overseas Product Management of 'Global Lost Ark'
https://careers.ncsoft.com/apply/view/99502?companyId=FSG <- Global Release/Translation of 'Western Throne & Liberty'

[neat ridge]

so we get the edgelord skins yet or is that end of nov / early dec

[swift tree]

that's next week, at the earliest

[bleak zinc]

[safe lark]

korea is not ready for those threads on inven

[quiet flower]

My wallet is ready

[swift tree]

I guess we'll find out in a few weeks

when the roadmap comes out

[burnt tree]

LOA will end itself if it stays a purely raid game

Hot take ik ik

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351248381426532445/1437185206720401449/Woori_Bank_2025_LCK_Minju_from_ILLIT_Sath2.gif

[swift tree]

Not a hot take, just a basic fact of game design

I've literally done academic research on this

[burnt tree]

Its a hot take for some people

[swift tree]

then they're idiots

[burnt tree]

Since the idea of lost ark diverging into more content types = bad

"Oh no muh raid"

[swift tree]

That's the elite korean audience that can absolutely go fuck themselves, since there's plenty that jumped ship to Maplestory and Dungeon Fighter because its too raid focused

[burnt tree]

They release raids " nooo Smilegate that's too much"

They slow down with raids to do something else "nooo Smilegate more raids"

Just fk u atp

[swift tree]

They give out good rewards "Nooo my investments"
They give out bad rewards "Why bother playing game, it doesnt respect time!"

[burnt tree]

Yeah people are just minus iq atp

Im surprised Paradise even went through in Korea with those lost ark business bozos

[fleet plover]

They said they slow down with MMO DEVELOPMENT but they are only publishers for these 2 games so idk.

It may be purely a normal job listing nothing that big behind

[swift tree]

I'd say that too, but Lost Ark specifically has a "server and network maintenance of global server infrastructure" job listed

which is 💯 a publisher role

even if AGS is still on board, SG RPG is taking over some of the stuff, including translation.

[zealous lintel]

my sentiment as well

[swift tree]

inb4 AGS has a studio schism

[zealous lintel]

in my opinion LOA is dead before it reaches the contract expiration date with Amazon anyway

[burnt tree]

Oh SG should take over translation

Finally some accuracy around here

[zealous lintel]

Kazeros will be another blow and if the "change of course" wont be what most people want its over

[burnt tree]

Ark Grid gonna cook everyone

[bleak zinc]

[burnt tree]

Elixirs with half assed QoL

[swift tree]

https://careers.smilegate.com/apply/announce/view?seq=5575

Huh, so THATS why they're called Lionsbridge

[surreal gyro]

lmao why is that?

[swift tree]

that's dumb

[swift tree]

ppl dooming about game model being unsustainable, but not realising that Smilegate has acknowledged that

[fleet plover]

It's not people like to dramatize as always.

[zealous lintel]

cause the playerbase is dwindling

[neat ridge]

thats been the case forever

[zealous lintel]

like when was the last time it stopped? paradise i guess

the CCU isnt stagnating or stopping from dwindling

[surreal gyro]

There are many reason why the playerbase is dwindling and overall the game is still an active MMO

[fleet plover]

The player base is the same for months now, yes we don't get new people but the left players are around the same numbers.

[surreal gyro]

u can find lobbies for everything

[zealous lintel]

it goes down since the game launched

[burnt tree]

No shit Sherlock

[zealous lintel]

satho stop being a prick for a moment

[burnt tree]

I'll throw one at your face

[zealous lintel]

other games have a stopping point of dwindling playerbase

[burnt tree]

MMOs don't have a stopping point

[zealous lintel]

like they have a constant playerbase for bigger periods of time

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/green-guy-pokes-you-stick-poke-comagreeny-gif-12916307036305812419

[surreal gyro]

except WoW or GW2 wich are super seasonal MMOs, name oen please

[zealous lintel]

they hace

[swift tree]

No paradise, no bootcamp, lots of other games released and will release alongside Kazeros, pending QoL and structural changes announced, we're in the month before LOA On

[zealous lintel]

doesnt matter

thats exactly the point

[burnt tree]

FF14 rolling in tears

[surreal gyro]

no it does matter

[zealous lintel]

no it doesnt

[surreal gyro]

yes it does cause this is not an issue to LoA specifically

[zealous lintel]

thats WHAT THE WEST PREFERS

[burnt tree]

Mentioned Midcraft but not FF14 ong

[swift magnet]

meow

[zealous lintel]

do you understand that?

[swift tree]

LOA's stopping point is 5-6k

has been for 6 months

[burnt tree]

Do you understand?!? do you speaka any English? Smilegate wants YOU!

[zealous lintel]

i dont need to name other KMMOs cause they dont succeed in the west

except BDO

then again, my point

[burnt tree]

BDO is dead wdym

[swift tree]

Lineage, Aion

[zealous lintel]

it hast a stopping point

[zealous lintel]

aion is dead

it had 300-500 players

[burnt tree]

Aion 2 isn't

[swift tree]

well not shit, it announced a sequel

[burnt tree]

It will save us all

[zealous lintel]

yeah

[burnt tree]

[zealous lintel]

but thats also not my point

what you even on about

[swift tree]

[burnt tree]

Bros cooked

[swift tree]

you're the one dooming in here, good sir

im diggy diggy hole as a break from LOA

[burnt tree]

Dooming is so pointless

[swift tree]

babe wake up, it's time to reclaim Khazad-Dum

[burnt tree]

AGS Staff doesn't read things here anyway

[swift tree]

that's what the other discord is for

[burnt tree]

Yeah so having a discussion to prove a point is meaningless if it doesn't go to the right ears(or eyes cause text fr)

[surreal gyro]

BDO is not doing well in KR its only somewhat active in the West and PA has been focusing in the Western Version

LOA is still a top 3 MMO in KR

worrying about LoAs future is kinda stupid imo

[burnt tree]

Worrying about LOAs future in the West is valid

But at the same time ags said they are committed to it

[surreal gyro]

its not valid because as well as the game does well in KR, there will always be a niche population in the West that supports the game and gives revenue to AGS

[swift tree]

If they're invested enough to completely redesign core systems, balancing and how they apporach their very business model-- there's clearly some justification to shareholders that its worth making the effort.

[burnt tree]

We hit top 40 revenue on steam over cats this month lmao

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[burnt tree]

Amd we didn't even get the scampacks for black friday yet

[safe lark]

when helicopter cat

as a mount

[swift tree]

I saw bootleg KDH cat and chibis at mall yesterday

[burnt tree]

Go to Korea, get Korean ID.
Design a Helicopter cat mount for the 8th anniversary, win and done

Aight time to get up

Season 5 Marvel Rivals released and i need to patch it

[safe lark]

yes move your butt

do your dailies

reset time

[burnt tree]

What dailies

Im resting

[safe lark]

idk

on 10th alt

that is not 1700

[zealous lintel]

i am not even dooming bara

[burnt tree]

I'll just do it on my sorc and ws

[zealous lintel]

thats not dooming

dooming would be trashing the game

[burnt tree]

20 min bitch work

[swift tree]

"game will be dead before license agreement expires" how tf is that not dooming?

[zealous lintel]

an observation?

[burnt tree]

LOA M is the future!!
Down with PC LOA!!

[swift tree]

I mean fucking hell, its something that was literally doomed every 4 years on Lord of the Rings Online whenever the fucking IP license came up

[zealous lintel]

never mentioned or said that the game should die

[zealous lintel]

its just an observation

[swift tree]

that's hating, dooming is "expecting doom"

[safe lark]

why is this girl popular

i saw this template

[burnt tree]

She has big tits

[safe lark]

100 times

[zealous lintel]

no its also dooming

[safe lark]

this month

[swift tree]

because people found she makes WASP men horny

[safe lark]

i see

[zealous lintel]

trashing a game so the game meets its doom

like going onto steam and making fake reviews

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/sydney-sweeney-4k-red-dress-emmys-2025-sydney-sweeney-sydney-sweeney-red-dress-bouncing-gif-2578590537469671443

Anyways laters

[safe lark]

🤔

[swift tree]

talks

[burnt tree]

[swift tree]

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-at-your-service-kdrama-wave-seo-in-guk-gif-21606901

[swift tree]

American equivalent of Gal Gadot at this point

[safe lark]

"doom at your service"

kdrama.

if someone wouldnt know

[burnt tree]

Ik it frfr

[zealous lintel]

it was dead before and with classic even

cause "i was there"

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/elrond-lotr-lord-of-the-tings-lord-elrond-3000years-gif-13229890

[safe lark]

where was smilegate when the amazon fell

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-lord-of-the-rings-gif-6961653794579608877

time to watch whole trilogy with Arna

[fleet plover]

[swift tree]

instructions unclear

[safe lark]

[swift tree]

[safe lark]

poor dwarfies

[wind dagger]

Gearscore 1701 but has +25 weapon

https://tenor.com/view/hot-day-are-you-ready-for-some-football-gif-16278812894835706568

[swift tree]

paradise taps go brr

[swift tree]

dont worry, it got better

[brittle hawk]

what men

[swift tree]

White-Anglo-Saxon-Protestant, i.e. "White" as a concept

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[safe lark]

gandalf will survive

yw for spoilers

i speak english, polish, german, french and counter strike russian language

they should hire me

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/you-shall-not-pass-lotr-do-not-enter-not-allowed-scream-gif-16729885

[kind lotus]

what dat

[safe lark]

should be ban for asking

[kind lotus]

darekdld

[kind lotus]

i still dont understand

I understand now

Daddychan enlightened me

[midnight cobalt]

anyone can help me fixing these freezes ?

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/green-guy-pokes-you-stick-poke-comagreeny-gif-12916307036305812419

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/understand-do-you-understand-words-gif-6113527

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-amleth-alexander-skarsgård-the-northman-ahhhh-gif-25849724

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[swift tree]

actual zerk brain

[burnt tree]

zero iq, no brain activity, pure idiot

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-silly-cat-gif-15388316135992189622

[swift magnet]

meh card xp for sure

[burnt tree]

nice try but zerkers arent cute at all compared to kittens

[burnt tree]

u get embers? must be nice

[swift magnet]

VALICIOOOOOO

[cinder mango]

https://tenor.com/view/gongjuzs-jang-wonyoung-ive-wonyoung-ive-wonyoung-gif-1294357471143838254

[swift magnet]

kitty

[safe lark]

always lucky

[burnt tree]

frefr

lucksack

[swift magnet]

xD

[safe lark]

walking turbo lucker3000

TurboPaekeser3000

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-angry-cat-angry-gif-1827994887323155782

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-18069003738146878767

[tulip charm]

Not good… fk

That means maybe a contract wasn’t renewed?

[swift magnet]

[swift tree]

we'll find out whenever the roadmap comes

AGS said one is coming shortly after Nov update

[swift magnet]

cant deny that i am rng carried xD

[coral hull]

Pure gnarly

[tulip charm]

How recent did the job listings go up for this, was this always up? Or something very recent that got put up?

[safe lark]

it doesnt need to mean anything

no need to be more saddies than usually

[swift tree]

recent enough that it hasnt reach deadline yet

[burnt tree]

dont apply zheng, loa doesnt need to die faster

[swift tree]

Zheng wouldnt qualify

[tulip charm]

Top right, 2025 11/30

[wise pasture]

I will do my best

[tulip charm]

Fk… maybe I am jumping to conclusions

[swift tree]

you asked when it was posted...

maybe check the calendar again

[coral hull]

We getting balance in november?

[swift tree]

yes

and Ark Grid specific event + Kaz Road

other events got pushed to December

[coral hull]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-hsr-soundoriented-gif-9870274529634909477

[coral hull]

The one after kazeros in Korea?

[swift tree]

yes

[burnt tree]

we get most of the kr december QoLs at december

[coral hull]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-gif-4237673717353924905

[swift magnet]

[coral hull]

Im getting gnarlied

[swift magnet]

my rats can hone to t4 and do cheaper adv honing yay

[burnt tree]

why

[coral hull]

Why what

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/love-is-war-i-am-inside-your-walls-your-walls-kaguya-kaguya-sama-gif-26389018

[tulip charm]

I am on phone, some of the stuff is not loading correctly

[burnt tree]

why ure being gnarlied

[swift tree]

Zheng, it's the 14th today

the 30th hasnt happened yet

[safe lark]

now he will think 30.11 is end of lost ark

rip

[zenith canyon]

[swift tree]

imagine all the Tier 3 honing you can now do

and Season 2 Paradise Accessory rolls

[zenith canyon]

ALL OF THEM

[coral hull]

Thats good

[swift tree]

stop trying make Gnarl happen, it's not gonna happen

[zenith canyon]

nice event

[burnt tree]

thats when the listing ends btw

[coral hull]

Not gnarly

[tulip charm]

I don’t wanna speculate too much, it could just be a new position as a liaison between smg and ags? Or at worst it could be some contract was not renewed, either way I’ve always said the moment ags sends out the roadmap for 2026 is when i know

[swift tree]

that's what I said

[burnt tree]

ure slow frfr

[surreal gyro]

Just watched Memos guide on Act4 , both gates look super fun NGL :3

G2 looks insane

[swift tree]

G2 looks like the actual raid and G1 is just a bop

[tulip charm]

I’ve made the point about the 2026 roadmap last month

[swift tree]

same but for different reasons

[tulip charm]

Even if the roadmap is barebones, or lackluster, as long as there IS a roadmap, then it’s gucci

[surreal gyro]

I shared an interview yesteday when AGS confirms they want to support the game in the years to come

[burnt tree]

bruh

all this baseless doominq

[surreal gyro]

IKR

if that was the case why would they change Ark Grid for our version

do server merges etc

they would keep the game on maintenance mode as every other Pulisher has done right before EOS

[swift tree]

Im not dooming, Smilegate taking a larger role in certain things might just mean that localization/promo material improves

[surreal gyro]

That's not a bad thing

[swift tree]

exactly

[surreal gyro]

NCsoft had already localised TnL before AGS published it in the west

[burnt tree]

i meant Zheng not u

ure more logical

[swift tree]

how dare you

there's no logic to my madness

[burnt tree]

Shocker

[surreal gyro]

If anything more recent events show AGS has gained a bigger role overall, and we now know one of the 3bozos is more focused on overseas operations

[burnt tree]

hes responsible for all regions

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-taser-funny-cat-fluffy-cat-electric-shock-gif-8320839084452211575

[burnt tree]

has been for like a year if not longer

[surreal gyro]

yes thats why i said overseas

[swift tree]

could be replacing his role as he steps in to work on continents (his old role)

[burnt tree]

ngl that may be whats the job listing for

[surreal gyro]

or maybe they want to take on more resposibilities and they need more hands

which again is a good thing

[swift tree]

"why not both" kinda answer

[burnt tree]

they can hire me and ill fix this crap for free ong

https://tenor.com/view/утюг-cat-est-utug-gif-15997868462494236323

Exu doubting my skills again tsk tsk

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[surreal gyro]

🙁

This years LOAON is on my birthday

i expect the BEST

or ill cry

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/prempdr-fc-mobile-fifa-gif-16778760554072111618

[burnt tree]

Well that's how ik it will be the worse loa on

Just kidding it can't get worse

[tulip charm]

I wish they kept strike raid intake for another month

[burnt tree]

I wish they delete strike raid alongside your account

[tulip charm]

I don’t really wanna mordum during prog week

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[burnt tree]

Shit raid

Just skip Mordum

Ezpz

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[burnt tree]

Foko

FOMO*

[tulip charm]

Your kinda slow, so you should skip mordum instead

[surreal gyro]

ill probbaly do Act4 HM and Kazzy NM

[burnt tree]

Well Where Winds Meet is releasing today sooo

I might prefer to play a more fun game

[surreal gyro]

i mean no rush for that game lmao

by the time you get to the MMO part of the game ull have to play a lot anyway

[burnt tree]

It boils down to playing something new over yet another raid

Don't have anyone to prog with this time anyway

[wise pasture]

tarkov

[surreal gyro]

you have the whole weekend until wednesday

[surreal gyro]

same my static disbanded

[coral hull]

Foko not gnarly

[surreal gyro]

ill pug

[burnt tree]

My cp too low to pug

[coral hull]

Many people IS quitting in kazeros

🐀

[surreal gyro]

right

[wise pasture]

weak

[surreal gyro]

doesnt matter, if LOAON is good people will be engaged if not then yes

[coral hull]

I mean weak people is the people Who is keeping the Game out of eos

[wise pasture]

[tulip charm]

I’d heavily suggest against pugging, at least for the first month, find another static for the prog

[surreal gyro]

nah its not such a hard raid

especially with Frontier

[tulip charm]

Pugging later is prob fine, I feel like if you pug the prog, you might hate the game

[surreal gyro]

im not a good player and i CBA going through all the static drama

[coral hull]

I Will prog in the last week of frontier

[tulip charm]

Normal requirement seems kinda piss, but hm, not so much

[burnt tree]

with pugging i learn the raids better ngl

[coral hull]

Like i care

[burnt tree]

since ppl lie about their progs or the experience is varied i learn better

[surreal gyro]

ha

true

[burnt tree]

i learn slow anyway

so it works for me

[surreal gyro]

ye idc either

[coral hull]

Not gnarly

[burnt tree]

while the cucky will come here to complain ppl arent on his godly level

[surreal gyro]

i quit for a month anyway im only at 2.7k CP lost a ton of progression

[burnt tree]

but chose to pug instead of finding a static

"only 2.7k"

[surreal gyro]

it kinda is only when my plan was 3k +

[surreal gyro]

whats your CP lel

[orchid galleon]

hey, whats more profitable: selling raw materials from logging or crafting oreha and then selling oreha

[tulip charm]

Good luck on the pug prog you guys are gonna do, hope you loot a good core week 1, 2/3 chance to get something decent

[burnt tree]

worried about the raid before any shit system core

[surreal gyro]

i think it depends on how good life skilling tools you have and how many crit crafting you get

[orchid galleon]

wym crit crafting?

[surreal gyro]

whats your character name

[swift tree]

also depends on one of the most important things for LOA

[burnt tree]

https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/character/CE/Yubriel

[tulip charm]

You’re only screwed if you loot a core on the engraving you don’t play, even if you loot 0 engraving generic core, just putting in shit you self cut, will powercreep your char massively a for week 2

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/mcgonagall-harry-potter-professor-minerva-mc-gonagall-gif-15434846199196401022

[surreal gyro]

when you craft them on your stronghold you have a chance to Crit and you get double the orehas

[coral hull]

Not gnarly

[orchid galleon]

aah

[burnt tree]

it is what it iz

[coral hull]

I have

2700

If i remember

[surreal gyro]

Theres no way you dont have full Adrenaline yet

[burnt tree]

wdym

its too expensive to finish it

[orchid galleon]

i got legendary tools, but i already got some materials

[surreal gyro]

u need 500k bruh thats 1 week of grind

[orchid galleon]

now im just wondering if i should sell them or craft oreha and sell it

[burnt tree]

expensive

[surreal gyro]

what's your stronghold level?

[orchid galleon]

62 rn

but im leveling it by dispatching

[surreal gyro]

yh just sell your mats for now

[surreal gyro]

i just realised you only play 2 characters T_T

https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/character/CE/Exuberance

[tulip charm]

I’d rather leave it all at 15/20

[swift tree]

we dont talk about my roster

[orchid galleon]

any reason for that?

[burnt tree]

ure so smart

immidiately assumes everyone plays loa like a job

[swift tree]

It's a living (death)

[surreal gyro]

bruh it dsnt take that long, you can do solo aegir strike raid and brel/mordum and be done on 6 charas within 1-2 days max

[burnt tree]

i dont wanna

plus roster bound gold cant buy books

[surreal gyro]

mats are kinda high currently and you will make more gold by just selling them. To get more value from crafting you need to set up your stronghold to crit craft as much as possible and you also have the initial cost of crafting the orehas

[burnt tree]

everything is "kinda high"

[surreal gyro]

still more gold than sitting idle xD but ye ok

[orchid galleon]

how do i set up my stronghold?

[surreal gyro]

There are recipies from Lab that reduce your crafting cost and increase your crafting success, you also can use structures to enhance that as well

[burnt tree]

"sitting idle" and im just playing other games or doing irl stuff over playing a game more than i want to

[orchid galleon]

how do i get structure like urs

[surreal gyro]

Understandable sir, even for a 2 character player your main is pretty high

[zenith canyon]

F4 shop

[surreal gyro]

some of them are exclusive from events

[zenith canyon]

u cant get all of them like us, its limited stuff

[surreal gyro]

and some from F4 store with blue crystals

[orchid galleon]

okey i'll just sell them for now then

do i sell all or just this

[surreal gyro]

All 3

[zenith canyon]

i convert all to abidos

[orchid galleon]

isnt it more worth to trade green for powder and powder for blue?

[surreal gyro]

maybe the greens

i would convert the greens

[swift tree]

greens convert, sell abidos and grey ones

[surreal gyro]

Cause the blues are pretty expensive as they are

lel this is so sad

[distant flax]

server and market dependent, can check using something like https://loa-buddy.pages.dev/crafting if you want (make sure to adjust for server)

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[swift tree]

@burnt tree

[wind dagger]

at least

its purple

getting closer to

compeltion

i lack many legenddary

[burnt tree]

L

[swift tree]

[burnt tree]

i got 21 points yday xd

[burnt tree]

just realised tomorrow i finish all my tier 4 sets

[surreal gyro]

damn

[burnt tree]

we get 2 new legendary cards next week, which wont be added to existing selectors

so i can just max the watah set

[swift tree]

[swift tree]

I'm flagging what's left

[burnt tree]

lol

[swift tree]

[burnt tree]

werent those from ppl who bought plat pack

[swift tree]

yes

[surreal gyro]

still have quite a fiew myself

[lofty kite]

Is this the last week of strike ride?

[swift tree]

yes

[surreal gyro]

yeah

[swift tree]

finally got last card to spawn

[lofty kite]

Was lucky the get grudge in the last

Mamma mia

[burnt tree]

i thought greeks were poor tsk tsk

[swift tree]

I missed out, was stuck on an island for a few weeks at launch, platinum got replaced w/ Mari Starter Pack

[surreal gyro]

:3

[lofty kite]

Guys should i maxout earth or get my fire set from 18 to 24?
For act4 HM

[burnt tree]

shibal

[surreal gyro]

for Act 4 Fire

[burnt tree]

g2 is weak to fire

earth is used on Kazeros HM

[swift tree]

Fire/Thunder/Lightning are only ones worth going for

[swift tree]

only for TFM

[burnt tree]

Lightning for 1720 guardian

[burnt tree]

oh right

frfr

[lofty kite]

What is better in this situation

[burnt tree]

fire

[lofty kite]

Put my fire on 24 or earth 30

[burnt tree]

Kazeros get a passive stagger nerf from War Map

[surreal gyro]

id say Fire due to potential gatekeeping

[swift tree]

both 24 is better than 30 earth 18 fire

[burnt tree]

gets*

yeah fire better

[lofty kite]

Thx

Was super unlucky with fire so far,

[burnt tree]

ikwym

NCsoft pulling me back with these skins

[surreal gyro]

do you think i can get the Day 25 reward on time? Can i claim the last day during maintenance?

[swift tree]

[burnt tree]

no

maintenance happens before reset

[surreal gyro]

great

[burnt tree]

so ull miss it

Also updated to Win11 25H2 and now i dont have windows

microsoft pls

[surreal gyro]

deserved

[burnt tree]

tf u mean deserved thats a real issue

not some pixel video game problem

[swift tree]

[surreal gyro]

why you so sensitive

[surreal gyro]

i hate you

[swift tree]

saved it by 1 day

[burnt tree]

cause im upset over several things rn

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sadness-pet-head-caterpie-sad-gif-16792400

[burnt tree]

imagine if u had GeForce Now to log and register ur logins

via phone

[surreal gyro]

thin green thing is literally Sathona

ye that sucks xS

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last year my first month on the island without PC, i played from my phone

ezpz

[swift tree]

we're so back

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the fact that NC took all these Classic pieces from AION and added vocals AGH! https://youtu.be/Vz2EQqmR2As?t=304

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(back above 7k)

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was just listening to this lmao

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LMFAO

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such a good song

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IKR

T_T

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nostalgic