lost-ark-discussions

[wintry depot]

CUICUICUICUICUICUICUICUICUI

[neon cedar]

Idc about the support type

I dont need heals

[fresh flint]

tf is this xD?

[wintry depot]

braden did you see my fun strike today

[wintry depot]

birbs sounds

[neon cedar]

I didnt

[fresh flint]

[wintry depot]

sounds sorry cant type

[fresh flint]

wtf

lmao

[wintry depot]

didnt know it was possible ngl

[neon cedar]

Thats a lot of defense

[fresh flint]

ive seen 600%

xdd

[wintry depot]

on a bard?

[fresh flint]

yes

[wintry depot]

xDDD

[fresh flint]

well

on a support

[neon cedar]

Looks like you played with breakers, artis and gl

[wintry depot]

i would hang myself ngl

[fresh flint]

idk if bard

lMAOOO

arna

[wintry depot]

arti arcana gs actually

[fresh flint]

arcana

:xdd:

[burnt tree]

nice nitro

[fresh flint]

ty

its lim edition

only i can see the emoji

[burnt tree]

xdd

[fresh flint]

mhm

[wintry depot]

my group is least tanked tho

so i guess i was gaming

[fresh flint]

oh hay

i found key

[neon cedar]

Rip, didnt use em

but wow my purple glow is so nice

I feel so complete seeing it

[modern hatch]

Do hell and see 1k%+

[wintry depot]

ew

[slender sky]

2,4k if u wanna be stingy, 2k if u tolerate basic alts

[queen grail]

Huh?

[fresh flint]

my key

[neon cedar]

based highest cp gatekeep feedback

Were all like 2200+. A couple 2500+ & Chris at a massive 1750

[worldly hawk]

1.9k is also fine if you only take 1-2

[modern hatch]

Chris is

[fresh flint]

1780*

[worldly hawk]

i thought my 1700 slayer was bad

with 1550cp

[wintry depot]

he stripped his gems

[worldly hawk]

[wintry depot]

thats why

[obtuse oyster]

chris el rato

[fresh flint]

lol

[wintry depot]

who has the website that shows if its better to craft or sell the mats

WAIT I GOT RELIC BOOK IN CHAOS

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

nvm

[swift magnet]

https://la-tools.com/crafting-calculator

this one?

[wintry depot]

ye maybe

ty

[swift magnet]

[wintry depot]

idk how to use it

[obtuse oyster]

@wintry depot

[slender sky]

yea pretty average lobby, except for chris

[swift magnet]

[queen grail]

I thought key's were supposed to vanish

[swift magnet]

this cute

[wintry depot]

nice cp maxer

how much does it give even

[burnt tree]

nyahaha

[modern hatch]

40-45

[obtuse oyster]

not me, so idk

[obtuse oyster]

he's at 1580 with it

[fresh flint]

what the fuck is this shit

[neon cedar]

I havent seen that since prog

[burnt tree]

oml

typical stroke raid

[modern hatch]

What happened? Just damage?

[obtuse oyster]

@wintry depot this gives me 34 cp

[swift magnet]

maybe he eepy

[wintry depot]

i see

[obtuse oyster]

so he probably getting like 50-60?

[swift magnet]

we like bonus rooms

[burnt tree]

bonus rooms, embers, gold

damn

gods favourite or some shit

[swift magnet]

[fresh flint]

i cant believe i got sucked

of all things

[fresh flint]

yeah saw that coming

[wind dagger]

[vagrant cradle]

who sucked you

[fresh flint]

strike tornado

i got stunned and sucked

[formal frost]

wtf is going on here

[wintry depot]

tfm

[vagrant cradle]

kaz hurts

carry 9 of those

[supple surge]

Gotta stock up

[fresh flint]

yeh theyll be using the fk out of splendid pots in tfm

[formal frost]

glad i started crafting them when i did

[wintry depot]

wait maybe i should craft thsoe instead

[fresh flint]

yeah i just thought that too

LOL

but you have to craft pot -> splendid pot dont u

double the crafting

[supple surge]

You should

[wintry depot]

i cba foraging

nvm

[fresh flint]

ooooo

i dont have a good forage tool

yuck

[formal frost]

i bought the regular elemental pots

[supple surge]

Pet farm then?

[fresh flint]

look at this chad

[formal frost]

these are all tradeable(the splendid hp pots)

[fresh flint]

wtf

a true business man

[supple surge]

Big Money

[fresh flint]

thats hugeeeee monees

[formal frost]

what other pots are people going to need

[fresh flint]

sacred, charm, pots

cant think of anything else

darks

[formal frost]

splendid though?

[fresh flint]

idk

pull up a youtube vid of tfm

and check hotbars

[modern hatch]

Atros

[wintry depot]

stimmy

[cyan elk]

guys anyone has the link of the kr road of kazeros event

🙏🏿

[swift magnet]

oh f ya need to craft pots,stims and atros xD

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/suck-kiss-fish-gif-16844352114465526007

[swift magnet]

time to forage xD

[fresh flint]

they made a penis shape

[wise pasture]

people prepping for prog and TFM

[formal frost]

looks like splendid darks, splendid sacred, splendid hp, atro

[vagrant cradle]

did darks go up too

[fresh flint]

@neon cedar errrr

[formal frost]

not yet

[wise pasture]

just be paladin like me, do progs on blue pots cause anybody is dead before you use even half of them

[neon cedar]

Youre the bible man. Are we cooked?

[wind dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/lukisteve-luki-oooo-xayoo-twitch-gif-22993991

[wintry depot]

thats not for me tho

[neon cedar]

Oh well everyone left anyway

[fresh flint]

His arcana friend was doing 159m

the other breaker picked up his dps

[wintry depot]

isnt that giga low

[neon cedar]

Very

[fresh flint]

I was doing the same dps as the breaker

[wise pasture]

🫡 fair enough

[fresh flint]

200m

lol

before i got sucked

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/lukisteve-luki-oooo-xayoo-twitch-gif-22993991

[neon cedar]

time to gatekeep harder

[fresh flint]

yes

gatekeep them into death

[limber sage]

Returning player here. My equipment score is 1490 and my “combat power” is 120. That’s low correct? Or normal? I’m trying to figure out what i don’t have switched on

[fresh flint]

I feel like we've had this same question 5 times now

[wise pasture]

that is about right

[limber sage]

It’s me I’m the same guy

[fresh flint]

Oh ok thank god

[limber sage]

I am still trying to figure out why I cannot roll over a chaos dungeon, which I used to breeze through before I left a year or two ago

[neon cedar]

Thats normal for the ilvl. There is a lot to do between 1490-1620++

[wise pasture]

this is CP chart from uwuowo

[limber sage]

I am doing something very wrong

[fresh flint]

what does that help him with

hes in t3 still

[neon cedar]

Youre not doing something wrong. Your char is just very low ilvl

[wise pasture]

it gives him idea at least what numbers people are at

[limber sage]

I am assuming it’s because all of my engravings are reset to zero but I have no idea.

[fresh flint]

What's your character name?

[limber sage]

So I’m wondering if the solution isn’t to do stuff below my gear level to get those engravings

Let me find out standby

[fresh flint]

wha

[limber sage]

I had no idea you could take a look like that. Awesome.

[wise pasture]

character name?

[fresh flint]

Well, maybe

Idk if the site has ur char

But i can try

xD

[wise pasture]

it has

as long as you know the name

you can acces any char

unless the owner specifically logged in and denied public acces

[limber sage]

Summit is my char name. A paladin. Please help!

[fresh flint]

What region?

Na?

[limber sage]

Yes

[neon cedar]

?progression

[tawny gate]

Jump to Gear Progression Steps: #lost-ark-help message

[neon cedar]

Follow this to gear up

[fresh flint]

Not seeing you

[limber sage]

It’s not my gear flow. I’m at 1490 trying to do a 1490 chaos dungeon

[neon cedar]

Have you set up your char build properly?

[wise pasture]

it is possible his char is in the part of database that got fucked up on NA merge

[wise pasture]

so we might not be able to see him atm due to it

[fresh flint]

[limber sage]

I’m logging back in. Let me make sure that’s my server.

[cinder mango]

e

[wintry depot]

i have the ass of my cat almost in front of my face

[limber sage]

I went to a character guide someone linked me here and I set up a DPS build. And then I went to the mass preset to make sure that every section.

[wintry depot]

nooo dont leave aaaaaa

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-9646983534577797493

[limber sage]

Had something in it

[wintry depot]

is there a good path for foraging in rimeria

is it long to delete life essence

[fresh flint]

and u are foraging anyways

xD

[wintry depot]

i ahve more potions than darek

and logging alone is dumb

[fresh flint]

@neon cedar where go?

[wintry depot]

(+ my tool is deadge soon)

[limber sage]

Im on east nor th America on the thaemine server

[fresh flint]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-mad-cat-angry-cat-cat-cat-meme-gif-6241738800057917520

[neon cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041063282435428433/1370222627687235646/togif.gif

[fresh flint]

Show me a screenshot of ur char name

[fresh flint]

Thats not ur char name

LOL

Your name is Arkangelon

[limber sage]

😂

[formal frost]

probably the bottom triport and go around that square thing

[limber sage]

Yes. I need halp. I’m clueless

See what you’re dealing with here

[fresh flint]

Summit is your location

[wintry depot]

https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/character/NA/Arkangelon there you go

[fresh flint]

Oh you're a pally

[wintry depot]

yeah

[limber sage]

Before i left i was doing content my equipment level just fine

[fresh flint]

Yeah you're good on that end

[wintry depot]

ill let braden help, hes typing faster than me

[wintry depot]

ok tyy

[neon cedar]

There is a few easy things to fix

• Use Star of Destiny card set. DeepDive is only good if its leveld up
• get legendary egraving books. It will be a huge damage buff
• Do solo Valtan/Vykas to craft your relic gear. Your purple gear is very outdated
• Use the solo tokens you get from completing the raid to buy a set of free gems from the solo exchange shop

[fresh flint]

And you used the Nexus guide to set up your dps build?

[limber sage]

Yes Molokai

[neon cedar]

• Youre missing runes. DO Arkesia Tour. An icon beside your minimap
• Adjust your skill point distrubution. You have skills at 11 which isnt need while some are stuck at 9

[formal frost]

https://i.imgur.com/vIoI8ag.png

[slender sky]

bruh i was waiting for something to happen

[limber sage]

Thanks flow

[fresh flint]

Well it could also be that with Paladins DPS setup, you have to press Z to activate it essentially. Are you making sure to do that?

[limber sage]

Well i was using random skills when i tried. Which worked for me a year ago. I just now switched to the DPS build but now I can’t figure out how to try the chaos dungeon again. It says I’m missing aura of residence.

[fresh flint]

Yeah a huge chunk of dps paladins setup is his Z/aura

That may have been why

They changed how supports play when in a dps spec

@neon cedar Are you trying again?

[cinder mango]

what happened to your color

[neon cedar]

Im back on but tbh Im over it. I go back to pokemon

[fresh flint]

:| ok

[cinder mango]

what the

[limber sage]

If the issue is my z/aura how do i fix it?

[fresh flint]

It's just a button

You press it

It turns on

And your skills do more damage

[limber sage]

Burp

Oh

Ok

Is there a way I can try the chaos dungeon again?

[fresh flint]

No

[limber sage]

Even without credit.

Lame

[fresh flint]

You can go to a random map with mobs

And test it out

[neon cedar]

Fine, ill try again. 1 sec

[limber sage]

What’s another piece of content I can do at my gear level that I can fail without consequence?

[fresh flint]

you dont have to

[fresh flint]

Guardian raid I think

[neon cedar]

Do the stuff I listed for you here #lost-ark-help message
Chaos dungeon is a daily content. Youll get more entry tomorrow

[neon cedar]

Im gonna

[fresh flint]

You can fail that as much as you want

[neon cedar]

I need to play loa so I can prog

[fresh flint]

Ok, im gonna get my chests realquic

[wintry depot]

i linked him that earlier yeah

his stats are all over the place aswell in the ark passive

[neon cedar]

I made him a list & linked quickstart for him in help chat. If he takes a couple hours to do everything itll make a big difference

[slender sky]

chris looked at you with the puppy eyes

[neon cedar]

Chris didnt do nuffin

[fresh flint]

i dont have puppy eyes, i have rbf

[wintry depot]

im lvl 30 in foraging XDD

[tawny lion]

Why are people so negative? They will clearly extend it and did this to be a positive experience. The timing is unfortunate because we could’ve gotten more players from new world, however they are doing a good job localizing this to the west

[wintry depot]

i mena i like that they bring the changes asap in december

but i also dont like the mokoko bootcamp in nov

i mean anyway its till feb

[fresh flint]

Yeah koko camp in nov makes no sense

[wintry depot]

i think people are missing the point

[slender sky]

what does it matter, shit runs 3-4 months anyway

[wintry depot]

you dont need 3 months to finish the shop

[slender sky]

might help some existing casuals to easier get into lobbies

theres like no downside to getting it now

[wintry depot]

ye they raising it too

[slender sky]

if they delay it to dec the same smoothbrains would go "THANKS AGS FOR DELAYING ANOTHER MONTH OF BEING GATEKEPT"

[wintry depot]

braden

[slender sky]

you cant win

[wintry depot]

wtf is that

[fresh flint]

a mushroom

[fresh flint]

ew

[fresh flint]

its not a lot but im finally collecting shit for dragon knight when he comes

[slender sky]

wdym thats not a lot, thats surely like 2-3 taps in there

[fresh flint]

better than 0 taps

but by the time koko camp ends and such

itll be tripled

or more

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-26556747

[fresh flint]

do u wanna fight bitch

[formal frost]

from 1640 to 1655 maybe

[fresh flint]

[slender sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/980718291020550164.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[fresh flint]

@neon cedar i have work tomorrow do u just wanna do it tmrw

i wanna raid

[neon cedar]

Now or tomorrow idc

[fresh flint]

are u reddi

[neon cedar]

Yea I'm in your sh

[fresh flint]

comen

Wheres that one guy that said he was gonna send me 135k

Hmmm...

it went up to 155k

[swift tree]

Only redeeming quality to Ark Grid is that it isn’t locked behind a single piece of content

And you can still make “progress” on it just by doing dailies

[tawny lion]

That is true, but separate reward for nm and hm

[wintry depot]

yea fuck that, ty

[swift tree]

Yeah which is something easier to fix.

[fresh flint]

jesus dicks what the FAWK

[cinder mango]

Wasn't she a woman?

[fresh flint]

its an entirely new race

both male n female released

[cinder mango]

I choose the woman

[swift tree]

that’s a misunderstanding

[fresh flint]

how

[cinder mango]

https://tenor.com/view/green-guy-pokes-you-stick-poke-comagreeny-gif-12916307036305812419

[fresh flint]

they said it

i think

[cinder mango]

There are no men as far as I know, only women.

[fresh flint]

at least thats what everyone understood from loaon

[swift tree]

did they confirm it recently?
because memo fucked up original translation

[swift tree]

Director botched phrasing

[fresh flint]

oh fuck off

i hate this game

[swift tree]

Later amended that they meant “it is not a gender unlock” i.e not a copy of an existing class

[fresh flint]

well

we'll see on december

[cinder mango]

BoobaKnight

[swift tree]

yeah

it’ll be nice to be proven wrong

[lone rampart]

shit who were kazeros already ?

[swift tree]

?

[lone rampart]

im looking at Lost eyes on arkesia

Roxx is mentionning it , is it the final boss ?

[swift tree]

Big bad of first main arc

[cinder mango]

I think he's talking about a poem

[obtuse oyster]

players let the cope get to them

[swift tree]

copium is the only way to enjoy LOA tbh

[lone rampart]

let me check how he look like

[cinder mango]

No matter what the Dragon Knight's gender is, what is his skill set

[obtuse oyster]

true, AGS toning down the whale potential of ark grid while buffing the generation for everyone's roster was not on my bingo card

[swift tree]

Big Spear

[lone rampart]

no shit this is imperius from diablo 3

[wintry depot]

his? the silhouette has boobs

[swift tree]

They’re all derivatives of Morgoth

anyhow

[obtuse oyster]

boobs are a construct

real

[slender sky]

what if hes just chubby

[swift tree]

Guys can have boobs wdym

[cinder mango]

You are very honest

"she had breasts"

[slender sky]

if i beat him up does he drop books?

[lone rampart]

it is holding an axe ! im sold

im a dragon knight since day 1

[cinder mango]

https://tenor.com/view/kazeros-lost-ark-mokoko-gif-2661148363146555124

"Oh my waist, my waist is killing me"

[wintry depot]

aaaaa i forgot to do chaos on 2 chars zz

[swift tree]

They combined Sauron and Morgoth together.
That’s the slutty Sauron side.

[cinder mango]

Kazeros is not cool

[lone rampart]

yeah i like teamine more

[swift tree]

Well no, they’re a god of fire

[cinder mango]

thaemine > kazeros

[lone rampart]

he look way cooler and raid seem to be better than kazeros

[swift tree]

Void vs Fallen Angel

[lone rampart]

Kazeros is like imperius ran out of acting gig in Diablo and went to lost ark

[cinder mango]

https://tenor.com/view/sauron-sauron-fellowship-of-the-ring-one-ring-to-rule-them-all-dark-lord-sauron-gif-12311796255703518431

[swift tree]

I mean even Brel’s raid had Lord of the Rings references

With the dead tree

[cinder mango]

The only truth is the echidna, the rest are lies.

[swift tree]

In this analogy, Echidna is Ungoliant.

[cinder mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1237062956492259431/1409832077427343380/Kazeros_Raid_Echidna_Sath.gif

[slender sky]

my shitters are overflowing with rested since like a week

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/shelob-talion-stare-serious-gif-12771104

[cinder mango]

https://tenor.com/view/brelshaza-brel-abrelshud-lost-ark-lost-gif-14855197319347314848

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/brelshaza-abrelshud-lost-ark-season-3-gif-9745579944412538168

[cinder mango]

As much as I hate Brelshaza, Brelshaza is also very good.

[swift tree]

Elzowin - Laurelin
Aeperion - Telperiom

[cinder mango]

Brelhidna

[swift tree]

That’s the statue in old Gate 2 of her legion raid

[swift tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wy7X2IOpDI

Behold, Brelhidna

[cinder mango]

https://tenor.com/view/thaemine-gif-7369698609818095774

[fresh flint]

brother in christ

im losing my marbels

oh thier bard died

no wonder

[swift tree]

Marbles, on the floor
Ragu on my niece and nephew

[fresh flint]

wut

[formal frost]

when was the last time this lost ark tools site was updated, it has the other 2 flowers in the splendid hp pot recipe making it look like profits are really down, unless the settings can be changed more i dont know

should only be blight wild flower

[wintry depot]

@fresh flinti got my blanket back

XD

[fresh flint]

about time

pog

[wintry depot]

my mom bought our chrimas gift early

new giga winter sheets for winter

[modern hatch]

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/cold-i'm-cold-cat-shower-bath-gif-3329088732556654165

[fresh flint]

we did itttttt

30k

:/

[neon cedar]

Same

[fresh flint]

and an expert book

[neon cedar]

I got heavy armor

[fresh flint]

hey we both made a lil coin

heavy armor is fkng high for no reason rn

xD

[neon cedar]

Oh is it? I read it

[fresh flint]

oh

nvm

its 5k

[neon cedar]

Okay thats good

[fresh flint]

my expert was 63k

[wintry depot]

ARE YOU TOO SPITTING ON 5K GOLD ???

[neon cedar]

I had read a few others so I assumed it was bad

[modern hatch]

[viscid sand]

I spit on your gold as I consume this lightning fury

[queen grail]

[fresh flint]

ok

now i can move on to my normals

and mordum

well, its 8pm

zzzz

[neon cedar]

Shit. but maybe good for an alt

[fresh flint]

yus

im close to another 8

[obtuse oyster]

climbing my way back up there too

[fresh flint]

poggies

life is so much simpler when u craft ur own gems

[obtuse oyster]

ong

[fresh flint]

r u crafting a 10

[obtuse oyster]

saving up for 9s

[fresh flint]

i c

[obtuse oyster]

but leaving those at 8s since they are my dps setup gems

[queen grail]

🐳

[formal frost]

https://tenor.com/view/come-here-come-on-sad-im-here-for-you-come-gif-17176157

[fresh flint]

fucking unreal that tempest has a gem

Where is Tommy at

@slender sky 15k from my first nm strike

[viscid sand]

🗣️ remove all identity gems

[fresh flint]

Or add more and make it fair

[viscid sand]

No, we only like removing

[fresh flint]

Cause if Pistoleer had one I’d stick with him as main. He’d do so much more with just that amount of love

I hate smilegate they’re all fuckin asshats

[viscid sand]

The main diff is that most of the other Zs are tied to their 4th node instead of "in-built into the class engraving"

[fresh flint]

True

[viscid sand]

So we'll probably get a gem when the whole ark passive enlightenment tree is taken as base

[slender sky]

i got shafted too, never lucky

[viscid sand]

So we'll see that in t5

[fresh flint]

T5 lol

More like t12

[viscid sand]

T5, year 12

[fresh flint]

[slender sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1436298070957625355/ezgif-6ffbace8a6661b74.gif

[fresh flint]

What the fuck is that shit

[slender sky]

that was his outfit on the dev stream

the mountain climber mokoko

[fresh flint]

I-

[viscid sand]

Where the Luke atdis outfit

[slender sky]

up your nose

[viscid sand]

Oh, shit you're right

It was there all along

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/kek-oaxxes-cat-lmao-rofl-so-funny-man-gif-18778682

[fresh flint]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01HN6NAJV00008Y0WDTPT0FY8Y/4x.avif

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-gif-1179534950139604809

[fresh flint]

@swift tree

i HAVE DISOCOVERED

A GAY GAME FOR THE PHONE

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-wtf-umm-really-wow-gif-11708668

[queen grail]

Is it called your sms-inbox?

[vapid bluff]

So are we getting any help with getting 1710 on the 19th or is all that shit pushed back

[neon cedar]

We still get the Kazeros Road event. Its 1680-1730+

If its anything like KRs though its very lack luster

[vapid bluff]

I really wish they didn't wait until the week before kazeros release to announce the delay

[neon cedar]

Just the way it goes unfortunatly. We're so close behind KR that their updates are a lot more relevant to us & KR didnt announce this stuff until their anniversary stream

[vapid bluff]

I guess, Idk why they didn't just give us two express events though

Two months of complete misery for any new player

[neon cedar]

3 expresses in 4-5 months would be awesome but pretty unprecedented. Thats a lot

[vapid bluff]

When your game is bleeding players, sometimes you need to do something unprecedented

I would really like to see a one time express event that people can use that doesn't punish you for starting at unoptimal times when theres a lull between events

BDO ended up doing something similar, taking away seasonals and making it a permanent feature

[modern hatch]

I'd prefer we get what they're planning on doing, which is essentially perma story express

[neon cedar]

A unique powerpass/express combo thats one time per account for new players to start off would be awesome. But it took YEARS for them to address T2 & T3. SG has never cared about the old bloat they leave behind

Unfortunatly it just the way it goes

[quaint wasp]

💳

and paradise is basically an event

[vapid bluff]

Like these are some scary low members, especially when all the layoffs happening and New world shutting down

[neon cedar]

Kind of to be expected imo. Were in a content drought waiting and waiting for Act 4 & Kaz. It always dips then. There is also the fast that for the first time in 3+ years we have zero idea what comes next. Were so close to KR there is no future story or raids or anything to be excited about

[quaint wasp]

its ok saturn will keep this game alive himself for the next decade

[neon cedar]

2025 is stacked with good games and people are gonna play those until LOA picks up again. Thats normal

[quaint wasp]

the early dec LOAON is make or break for LA in 2026

[queen grail]

Meanwhile Lost Ark was just on the list over high-earner's in Steam if I'm not wrong so don't worry.

[swift tree]

Good thing there’s a second event/drop rate boost to jewels

On top of Paradise S2

Lost Ark is also gimped atm by several bad systems we’re waiting for fixes on

[modern hatch]

Yeah like eac

[swift tree]

which is basically how it always is

[neon cedar]

After the Dec changes you can actually tell someone they can start anytime

[obtuse oyster]

[modern hatch]

W rmt

[swift tree]

Story Express baked in is a game changer

Just need to update it as stuff increases

[modern hatch]

Which they won't do

[swift tree]

nah just 6-9 months later than they should

[modern hatch]

Nah should just be kept 3 continents behind current at all times or something like that

[swift tree]

1580 is 2 continents behind

[modern hatch]

2 or 3 works for me

Hell 0 behind is fine too

[swift tree]

They add Sacria map and raise it to 1580

They said they want to keep it at 1580 “for now” so people get a tutorial with upper Tier 3

They’re just finally removing the gold/system bogging new characters down

[queen grail]

@neon cedar @obtuse oyster Well, welp someone forgot.

[obtuse oyster]

I got cooked by dst

12 am cst was technincally 2am est for the server

ended off at 31st place

[queen grail]

Damn, so close.

[obtuse oyster]

yeah

I got to place 24 but realized it was closed when I did

[queen grail]

Damn man

Next season fr frr.

With season 2 I might get one or two non-gold alt's to 1700 @obtuse oyster

[obtuse oyster]

wit the arc grid changes

might be worth it

[queen grail]

Yea, more alt's, more chance for drops Got these in "range"

Paladin shouldn't be an issue unless he goes like 5-6 weeks no gold / free-tap / fusions but the other will need some work.

[trail walrus]

WTF... my main is stuck at 1600.. how the hell yall have that many aklts at that ilvl

[queen grail]

[obtuse oyster]

Marathon

Comparing yourself to people who have been playing for a year to years

[queen grail]

Ye, don't compare yourself to crazy people.

[trail walrus]

true, do you guys have a group of peopple you play with? Cause i dont see myself playing with out a group of people to play/hang out with

[obtuse oyster]

I just pug 80/90% of the time

[vapid bluff]

doesnt this mean the rewards are the same

[obtuse oyster]

yes

[vapid bluff]

as they were in KR

[obtuse oyster]

1 to 1 as the kr

[vapid bluff]

And the KR event was complete dogshit yeah?

[obtuse oyster]

it was meh

[queen grail]

I have 1 char in 1 static doing 3x raids, the other 15-30 raids I do solo.

For the most part.

I do some duo but mostly pugs.

[obtuse oyster]

life truely no fair

people out here speed running 23s

I'm on my way to pity

[queen grail]

Did you see my Wildsoul?

It's a bit salt rubbing but man she had some wicked luck one day.

[vapid bluff]

Can we interact with the ark grid system before 1710

[obtuse oyster]

you get access at 1700

that's why 1700s can generate arc grid jewels

[vapid bluff]

Wait so what does Kazeros drop

[obtuse oyster]

arc core

act 4 and kaz drop them

[vapid bluff]

but you can do it at 1700, kaz is 1710

im confused

[obtuse oyster]

63%

[obtuse oyster]

they are two different raids

[queen grail]

I mean, It's, ass but at least It's not 100% ass.

[obtuse oyster]

but both give gear for the same system

[vapid bluff]

Do I get access to the mechanic that "upgrades" the class at 1700

[queen grail]

But ye, My Wildsoul free-tapped 21 and 22 with like 7 taps, it was, something.

[vapid bluff]

like the big centerpoint of ark grid

[obtuse oyster]

it's rng

1700 only gets you nm mode

you can drop purple cores up to ancient

(low chance of ancient drops)

you don't get access to gameplay changes till you get a relic core of whatever spec core you're going for

[queen grail]

I bet @obtuse oyster will drop 1 Ancient Core week 1.

I called it.

[obtuse oyster]

cope

[vapid bluff]

probably

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/shy-embarrassed-uncomfortable-covering-up-hiding-gif-7029477870196714178

[vapid bluff]

he never struggles

[obtuse oyster]

I'm about to be benji

4 weeks of no relics

[obtuse oyster]

that's lies

[queen grail]

True, 4 weeks no Relic's.

Since It's all Ancients.

FR FR

[vapid bluff]

also i feel like i griefed by tapping but i really want the glow

so Im pushing for +20 weapon before 1710

[obtuse oyster]

it's fine

[queen grail]

[obtuse oyster]

wep gives cp and dmg

[swift tree]

Kaz drops higher quality at greater rates and more drops = more chances to get cores you want

[obtuse oyster]

just may not be gold eff depending on where you are

[obtuse oyster]

yeah, that's fine

ah probably bit a cheaper terms of cp/dmg boost

[vapid bluff]

should I go 20-40 ah after +20 weapon

[obtuse oyster]

cause you could ah glove to 30/40 and wep to 40

[vapid bluff]

and just leave armor alone

[obtuse oyster]

ah wep to 40 when you can

[vapid bluff]

its not even 30 yet

[obtuse oyster]

same as the 40

[obtuse oyster]

prio ah on weap

and then gloves

[vapid bluff]

how many weeks is that

[obtuse oyster]

you get 36 a week buying chest

two weeks to get 60

if you do hardmode you only need 30 of the hard mats to convert down

[covert remnant]

I've been pronouncing armoche so wrong till now😂

[swift tree]

AGS localisation is wrong, it’s an italian word

[covert remnant]

So is it 3 syllable?
Ar mo che?

Ar mosh

Is the ark grid available from 1700?

[swift tree]

Spanish/French mb, Weapon/Brute

[obtuse oyster]

yes

[tulip charm]

i am gonna miss strike raid -_-

its such a braindead and ez raid, impossible to jail, and gave infinite gold

[ebon snow]

In hm maybe
In nm it was a shitshow waste of time

[quaint wasp]

most active players should be playing hm

[modern hatch]

not on 6 chars tho

[vagrant cradle]

yeah most of mine were doing norms

so far I think I've always had a net gain doing normal strikes

[tulip charm]

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[tulip charm]

last week of strike, still no 500k gold yet

why is my rng so dogshit now for a year

[viscid sand]

but have you seen an ancient chest yet

[tulip charm]

yes, plenty of them

but not lately, got 6 relics in a row last week, followed by 2 more this week

[viscid sand]

must be nice

i've seen like 3 ancients over 24(?) runs so far

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-naruto-shippuden-pain-arc-pains-assault-arc-naruto-vs-pain-gif-460484780364719315

[ripe summit]

hey lil question about ark grid thingy. we should save chaos/guardian only on 1700+ chara right?

[viscid sand]

if you wanna gamble the drops, ye

but odds of getting good loot will vary either way

[ripe summit]

i'm kinda clueless on what is coming on next week ngl ^^'

[wind dagger]

i'm kinda clueless on what is coming on next week ngl ^^'

[wide stag]

https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-derek-shepherd-we-all-are-patrick-dempsey-gif-25757811

[obtuse oyster]

ye

[ripe summit]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[uncut dirge]

wait

is next week gonna get the "NA special" lobbies?

technical difficulties during double prog week

[tawny lion]

Honestly this game needs a weekly dungeon that can replace 1 raid mats/gold (as long as it’s not the latest raid)

They can cycle old dungeons so people don’t feel bored

[tulip charm]

i borrowed the post from degen

[tawny lion]

The right side is so true

Someone tried to wipe us on aegir hm g2 at the 1st heart cuz he missed his big attack

Purposely missed the saw

[uncut dirge]

yes, but i don't trust SG to be able to do it

it seems simple to us, but nothing is ever simple when it comes to SG

Challenge Abyss used to take old Abyss dungeons and reduce our ilvl to be "equalized" so we can experience those old raids again

great idea, but terrible execution

the level to which they reduced us made all the challenge abysses trivial, because we were so overgeared

as a result it felt like a chore more than anything

people asked for SG to bring back old raids - they did with Valtan EX, but for some reason decided to make it Hell Mode version of Valtan

which meant that it ended up with a lot of gatekeeping and became inaccessible to a lot of players

[tawny lion]

Yeah that one was lame af

[uncut dirge]

i just don't understand how it's so difficult for SG

to just take what they had, increase the numbers for damage and hp to the levels of our new characters and leave it at that

and then they can run this, see what people think and THEN change it based on feedback

if people complain

They seem to be so overeager to just rework things way too much.

Transcendence - they came up with an entirely new minigame

when in reality all they needed to do was remove the turn limit to get 3 flowers

[tawny lion]

Their priority metric is how long players are logged in. Their solution is always make something take longer. Cutscenes, invulnerable boss, difficulty to prog, etc

[uncut dirge]

Is the system they came up with better? Yeah, probably, but they could've done the old thing so easily!

[quaint wasp]

imagine not bussing a full roster since argos

are you even playing the game

[tawny lion]

No

[kind lotus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN-NNgWIyIQ

[surreal gyro]

i mean thats not accurate

valtan extreme had 2 difficulties if i recall corectly and it wasnt as hard as the old hell mode

[runic siren]

Anyone ever play Dauntless? Everyone's arguing for systems like that game but it went EOS quickly because you could finish all the content in a couple weeks

[uncut dirge]

they were hell mode mechs

[runic siren]

it was also fun AF. Guardian raid only

[surreal gyro]

and? it was the first hell mode raid ever nothing overly complicated

[uncut dirge]

it's not about being complicated, but it's still inaccessible to a lot of players

[surreal gyro]

thats very vague

[uncut dirge]

when half the lobbies ask for hell title to enter the raid it's a problem

it's not very vague at all

i'm sorry that you're so elitist that you don't understand how that's limiting to some players

[surreal gyro]

im not being elitist at all

[uncut dirge]

but rest easy in the thought that because of its drop off in popularity

we didn't get the mode again

[surreal gyro]

we are getting Thaemine extreme in January

[uncut dirge]

yeah

like 1.5 years later, yeah?

and just to fill a gap

[surreal gyro]

as if they havent added other things in between

like solo raids

paradise

some people did ask for hell titles

but you are being overly dramatic over it

for Hell valtan i mean

the raid had 2 difficulties you could do either of those if u wanted

[uncut dirge]

it doesn't matter

this is like saying

"look how inclusive they were with tarkal - you had the option to do a party raid or even solo!"

there's a reason the solo version of this "raid" is dead

because it's worthless to do

i really don't understand why people in this game keep protecting inane design decisions

[surreal gyro]

but your original argument was them doing something new

and yes strike raid was the perfect example

yet u still dont like it, although it has a solution for everyone

[uncut dirge]

of course i don't like it

[surreal gyro]

so what are we complaining for here

[uncut dirge]

i can't use the words i wish to use to describe how stupid of an idea the solo version of strike raid is

it shouldn't exist

it's 100% waste of time by the developers

and i could've told them that before ever seeing it

in fact, i did

they could've taken that effort

and made something players actually want

but SG constantly does lots of things that everybody knows beforehand are not going to be well received

and yet they do it anyway

[surreal gyro]

but they didnt just release the solo version

and this boss is super simplified

i dont think it took that much dev time or resources

[uncut dirge]

it doesn't matter what the boss is like

it doesn't exist

it's irrelevant in every context

[surreal gyro]

they are trying new things and see

[uncut dirge]

but you don't need to try something like this to see

[surreal gyro]

which is what you were complaining about earlier

[uncut dirge]

it's obvious to everybody that isn't brain damaged

that people wouldn't do it

another example is rowen

[surreal gyro]

its for new player who dont want to engage with the grtoup contnet at all and want to farm some event tokens

[uncut dirge]

you had to be completely delusional to think rowen had any chance of working out

[surreal gyro]

i liked it the first couple of times i did it

[uncut dirge]

it isn't

i don't understand where this idea comes from

[surreal gyro]

and it was a feature the game didnt have before so they added it to see how it goes

[uncut dirge]

that treats new players like they have brain damage

[surreal gyro]

same for primal island

same for everything else theyve done that you find "stupid"

[uncut dirge]

those new players have to end up in regular raids anyway

you can't make something trivial and then right after that put them into full difficulty

[surreal gyro]

i think you are overall not happy, which i understnad

and now we are just trying to pick out every little thing there is

to call out SG

at least they are doing stuff, other DEVs have the same patch content for over a decade (uhum :P)

[uncut dirge]

primal island was good

it was AGS that dropped the ball on it

but primal island was always going to be so-so, because it's basicaly another game inside another game

[uncut dirge]

idk what other games you're playing

[wind dagger]

Co op ambush

[uncut dirge]

but from my perspective SG gives us less content than other games i play

but that's not even the important bit - the important bit is that content in lost ark expires

in a lot of other games that's not the case

so even if content in those games does come out slower, it builds up over the years

pretty much all the continent stuff is a waste

people will call the story bad, but it's not the story they're trying to tell that's the issue

it's that the story has no gameplay

and the entire continent area becomes basically worthless after your'e done with the story - you run through it once and that's it

you only go back there for life skilling and field boss, nothing else

these are just baffling design decisions

[surreal gyro]

like what games

[uncut dirge]

path of exile

runescape

[surreal gyro]

path of exile is not an MMORPG

Runescape has more contnet updates that lost ark?

[quaint wasp]

I mean the moment they readd back in extreme hell content

[uncut dirge]

it's as much of an MMORPG as lost ark is bro

[quaint wasp]

im gatekeeping for hell title

[surreal gyro]

for an MMORPG Lost Ark still has one of the fastest contnet cycles

idk what u on about

[quaint wasp]

why would I want to prog with people who are LOST

[uncut dirge]

yes, it's completely understandable

which is why making that new "fun" mode hell-mode mechanics was the problem

[obtuse oyster]

it's not

poe is basically an single player experience

[uncut dirge]

so?

runescape is basically a single player experience

[obtuse oyster]

you can intertact with zero people and ignore the market

[surreal gyro]

so u need to understand what an MMORPG is

[uncut dirge]

is it not an MMO?

runescape even has an SSF mode

[surreal gyro]

Compare lost ark to other themepark mmos

like

WoW FFXIV and so on

[uncut dirge]

well, it's cool that themepark MMOs aren't the only MMOs

[surreal gyro]

who have PvE group content as a core

[quaint wasp]

ye they need to make it drop rewards that people want to grind it for

[tawny lion]

Rowen was so stupid that it was one sided right away lmao

[quaint wasp]

then I can see the people w/o title lining up outside pf

[zealous lintel]

plssssss LOA isnt a typical MMO. more of an action rpg

if anything MMO "lite"

[tawny lion]

Primal island was stupid

[surreal gyro]

its not an MMO lite lmao

[uncut dirge]

people have this intense desire to say that poe isn't an MMO or that lost ark isn't an arpg

it's this weird obsession people have

[surreal gyro]

jsut because youdont go on punika to roleplay it dsnt mean its not an MMORPG

[uncut dirge]

hell, back in the day i scoffed at world of warcraft being called an MMORPG

[zealous lintel]

na, MMOrpg are seemless most of the time

thats where you are wrong

[uncut dirge]

because al the important content was in 40-man raids, which is pathetic for "massive"

[zealous lintel]

LOA is everything "instance-based"

[surreal gyro]

and?

[zealous lintel]

the moment you log in

[surreal gyro]

what does that mean

[uncut dirge]

but we accepted the term to include games like WoW

[zealous lintel]

its intance based

[surreal gyro]

FFXIV is instance based too

[zealous lintel]

its a lobby simulator

[uncut dirge]

then WoW downsized from 40 man raids to 25 mans

[zealous lintel]

no it isnt

[surreal gyro]

TERA was the same

i dont understand

[uncut dirge]

and now we take MMO to include 8-mans

[zealous lintel]

you dont get "sharded"

[uncut dirge]

so i'll just say that PoE is an MMO too

[zealous lintel]

a game where you have everything set up by "lobbies" isnt MMO type like

cause if we just go by that definition

than COD is an MMO as well

?

[uncut dirge]

MMO basically means semi-persistent progression game with chat

[surreal gyro]

you are reaching

legit xD

[zealous lintel]

no i am not

[surreal gyro]

thats a SYSTEM

[obtuse oyster]

you kinda are

[surreal gyro]

a matchmaking system

what does that have to do

with what w are saying here

[zealous lintel]

its the "rpg" term

not the MMO term

[tawny lion]

Other mmorpg u can queue with randoms and clear

[zealous lintel]

and thats why action rpg

[surreal gyro]

you can do that in lost ark too

but nobody queues

xD

[zealous lintel]

mmo means massive multiplayer online

nothing else

[surreal gyro]

yes?

[zealous lintel]

so cod is taht as well

[uncut dirge]

call of duty/battlefield don't apply to MMORPGs

[zealous lintel]

or battelfield

[surreal gyro]

you see every player around you in COD?

what am i reading

[uncut dirge]

because they're not progression games

[zealous lintel]

no but i do in wow

[surreal gyro]

there is a SHARED WORLD

[zealous lintel]

or in ff

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[surreal gyro]

when you do field boss

[uncut dirge]

sure, there will be prestige ranks and what not to grind, but most of your power does not come from that

[surreal gyro]

where do you do it

[tawny lion]

No you can’t. Try queue mordum nm or hm. Good luck. In any other mmorpg takes 1-2 min max

[uncut dirge]

i don't

also if you gotta reach for field boss to say that it's an MMO...

i don't think field bosses are really what you think of when you think of lost ark

[zealous lintel]

instanced in channels

[surreal gyro]

thats because lsot ark raids are hard by design

compared to othe mmos

[uncut dirge]

but what myeura said is also right

[surreal gyro]

that doesnt mean the game is not an MMORPG because people cant queue up and do the raids JESUS

[zealous lintel]

the whole game is pretty much a big ass lobby

[surreal gyro]

every THEMEPARK MMO has this

[tawny lion]

People don’t even talk in this game

[wind dagger]

Lobby sim

[uncut dirge]

you know, the funny thing is that there's no real reason we even have "servers" anymore

the only gameplay aspect that mattered in terms of servers was guild islands in the past

now that we don't have those we could really just have 1 server per region

we'll just have more channels in every area

buit it's likely a technical limitation why we still have servers

[obtuse oyster]

[tawny lion]

Game is missing half the list lol

[surreal gyro]

lost ark has all of those

[uncut dirge]

poe fits all of those

wlel, character customization (in terms of looks) comes from mtx tho

[obtuse oyster]

you don't need all the features to make it an mmorpg

[obtuse oyster]

not really, it has some of the features

[uncut dirge]

a friend once told me what an MMORPG is back in runescape

[tawny lion]

Yeah but it’s missing half the list. Most other mmorpg misses 1-2 max

[uncut dirge]

"An MMO is a myspace with a game attached to it."

[obtuse oyster]

it just doesn't fit a true mmorpg because it's an arpg

[surreal gyro]

think of tera

what was tera not an MMORPG?

very similar structure to lost ark

only diff was the POV

[uncut dirge]

PoE has:

1. a persistent game environment
2. level progression
3. social interaction in game - chat
4. in game culture - le toucan has arrived
5. membership in a group - guilds
6. you can put mtx on your character to lag out others in town

[tawny lion]

This game is grinding hard and raid simulator. Which is fine, but that’s all it is. The gameplay is fun and raids are Fun at first and then become a chore due to slogs like g1 mord, cutscene, boss fly away etc .

[uncut dirge]

i don't see why being an arpg would prevent it from being an mmo

[surreal gyro]

becasue the social features are super limited

[uncut dirge]

i mean, the reason we like lost ark so much is because it basically has ARPG combat

[surreal gyro]

the core content is done solo

[uncut dirge]

but even bentter

[surreal gyro]

the focus is still Group PVE

you dont get it

[zealous lintel]

what i wanted to display with my "reaching" is that labels are stupid

[uncut dirge]

hello

this MMO is, well used to be, entirely solo too

[surreal gyro]

there are very obvious differences

[uncut dirge]

and it was an MMO before the MMOs you think about even existed

it took like a decade for this thing to even add a clan feature

[runic siren]

is this the timeless argument of the semantics of MMO vs ARPG vs MMORPG vs etcetc

[obtuse oyster]

it's the age ole of people interchanging the word MMORPG with MMO (When they mean MMORPG)

[uncut dirge]

MMOs haven't alwayus been this group focused thing you think of from WoW

[surreal gyro]

this is your typical THEMEPARK MMORPG though

this is where Lost Ark falls under

[zealous lintel]

fact is, LOA is far away being a typical MMO

[uncut dirge]

yes, i agree

this is more like a WoW-clone than some of the other MMOs

[surreal gyro]

apart from the assymetrical view, lsot ark is a typical MMORPG

[tawny lion]

Loa everyone silent. While ff14 has lots of talk, wow has the barren chat or political fighting etc on every single server

[surreal gyro]

i dont know why u cant see it

[zealous lintel]

yeah cause the game is a big ass lobby

[uncut dirge]

well, to be fair, the game in lost ark is very poor for chat

you just can't chat during this game

[obtuse oyster]

you must not have a perma yapper on your server

[uncut dirge]

and outside of raids a lot of your time is spent on loading screens

[zealous lintel]

everyone sitting in their own cage

[obtuse oyster]

always 1 guy infinite yapping on nineveh

[uncut dirge]

and those loading screens switch you from one chat to the other

so it's hard to talk

[zealous lintel]

and if SH had every perk which cities have you would see 0 people

just jump through one lobby to another

[uncut dirge]

ironically, i think if strongholds had every perk we'd see more chat

[obtuse oyster]

also that each area has it's own chat