#lost-ark-discussions
cyan elk
brittle hawk
yeah i can't believe ive spent like 20k gold on a 2 year old system and am still basically stuck on shitty 4 4 elixirs from a free box
swift tree
how did doing elixirs become more garbage?
Smilegate
fresh flint
wind dagger
Smilegate
used almost 20 event ones, at most I got a 5/3
elixir right now is not any better than before
10 attempts, less options
stuck with these two I want to make 5/5
wind dagger
zerker
wind dagger
combat power and gems pls
wintry depot
Nice bus
zealous lintel
anybody knows how much lvl8 > lvl9 gem in terms of CP is?
swift tree
oof
swift tree
combat power and gems pls
fleet plover
anybody knows how much lvl8 > lvl9 gem in terms of CP is?
I think 20 CP
swift tree
but zerk uses greatsword
energiser slayer bunny
bitter inlet
anybody knows how much lvl8 > lvl9 gem in terms of CP is?
you can check in trixion
zealous lintel
yeah, its around 20
dire patio
bruh almost had a heartattack watching the last match
late portal
Who’s the bro? The casters? 
I’m just glad it wasn’t a boring ass series like the last 3
3-1s are 😴
worldly hawk
LoL
worldly hawk
https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-11816971814746635421
obtuse oyster
swift tree
I had to check the key for a second
swift tree
bound gold
wind dagger
why gold this time
swift tree
no legacy stuff tho
swift tree
why gold this time
tier 3, have mats just need gold
@burnt tree you seen the YouTube comments for Lost Ark?
swift tree
wtf this mean
soundtrack team only people at Smilegate not in the Korean community's shit books
tranquil ruin
Someone know or have some information about the express pass we'll have with kazeros?
lofty kite
Guys I still have 3 reroll with bracelet changer, what should I try to gamba? Crit? I know the bracelet is not OP, but not bad, so I am confused xD. Mayhem zerk
viscid sand
i think it's alright as it is. can prob save it to roll another bracelet with higher rarity lines
worldly hawk
i would say it depends on how many tickets you have
swift tree
Someone know or have some information about the express pass we'll have with kaz...
It will give you bonuses for a given item level range and the honing rates within that.
it will give rewards
zenith canyon
Guys I still have 3 reroll with bracelet changer, what should I try to gamba? Cr...
i would save rerolls, no need to roll now
worldly hawk
i would save rerolls, no need to roll now
i mean if he has like 10 tickets i'd say just roll it there is no downside to rolling
lofty kite
i mean if he has like 10 tickets i'd say just roll it there is no downside to ro...
I got around 6
worldly hawk
just lock 2 out of the 3 effects and roll 
zenith canyon
outgoing>add
viscid sand
basically, what you're looking for other than just the legendary versions of some lines, are the long ass text lines
vagrant cradle
stuck vortex
Trust me bro
wise pasture
obtuse oyster
<:FeelsDumbMan:486880728945131520>
zenith canyon
<:FeelsDumbMan:486880728945131520>
fresh flint
worldly hawk
fresh flint
I start vacation after work today
worldly hawk
fresh flint
worldly hawk
slender sky
wise pasture
🤔 wasnt that 1680 before last maintenance?
broken lava
sneack peak for the next road event
neon cedar
🤔 wasnt that 1680 before last maintenance?
Yea. Another KR event UI that got carried over by accident
wind dagger
lol
neon cedar
Along with the lucky box ui
wise pasture
Yea. Another KR event UI that got carried over by accident
they need to teach the interns version control...
slender sky
Along with the lucky box ui
didnt some1 say the lucky box ui is from the cn gacha
neon cedar
Someone said that and that someone is dumb
KR could buy 20 chests a week. We get them as rng drops
slender sky
Someone said that and that someone is dumb
swift tree
didnt some1 say the lucky box ui is from the cn gacha
Whoever said that is objectively wrong
It’s not even the same SHAPE
wise pasture
we need a CN spy
wind dagger
@sand marsh
sand marsh
wtf
sand marsh
CN has a UI very similar to this for there event
swift tree
CN has a UI very similar to this for there event
It has a box and a big yellow button. That’s it
stuck vortex
But it has yellow button
ionic sonnet
zenith canyon
nope, euc is fine
zenith canyon
maybe that merge tech isnt 100% good 
swift tree
maybe that merge tech isnt 100% good <:KEKDog:1017277642833154128>
you know it’s bad when Minecraft and Fortnite are going down as well
The money makers
zenith canyon
thats good one
swift tree
thats good one <:KEKW:834726120606924850>
I’m not joking though…
AWS and Azure both crashed this month
zenith canyon
ik, thats wild shit to do 1 provider only
swift tree
Same with Epic Online Services. EU couldn’t login following the merge because EAC itself was down
wind dagger
Same with Epic Online Services. EU couldn’t login following the merge because EA...
I GOT BARACHAN
wind dagger
cinder mango
wind dagger
whst ke berud
cinder mango
big booba slayers everywhere!
sand marsh
It has a box and a big yellow button. That’s it
i meant the UI icon that u see on the right
thats what i remember at least
cinder mango
hello death booooi
brittle hawk
AWS and Azure both crashed this month
hoping google cloud and oracle are next 
midnight drift
lmao even losing it in Japan
covert remnant
this mf was mad that he did't get accepted to skolakia and messaged me to tell the leader! what in the world......
wise pasture
people like that deserve to not get accepted to anything
wind dagger
people like that deserve to not get accepted to anything
it's fine
it's been stable like that for weeks/months
wide stag
Why dont people like that just go solo or random mm instead of trying to get into lobbies they obviously arent geared enough for.. instead of wasting hours whispering to random ppl he couldve been done already
queen grail
11k right now is pretty good, that's more than alive for a game.
queen grail
Why dont people like that just go solo or random mm instead of trying to get int...
Not geared for? It's Skolakia, he's more than geared for Skolakia 
wide stag
Not geared for? It's Skolakia, he's more than geared for Skolakia <a:OMEGALAUGHI...
Oh im sorry, I thought 800 cp was like beyond garbage for a 1680.. even for an alt
still one of the highest earning mmos on steam in 2025.. somehow.. make it make sense.
covert remnant
the 1660s event characters has like 900+ cp
wise pasture
Oh im sorry, I thought 800 cp was like beyond garbage for a 1680.. even for an a...
this is an offroster stripped character
queen grail
Oh im sorry, I thought 800 cp was like beyond garbage for a 1680.. even for an a...
My brother in christ, 
It's a freaking guardian raid, who gives a hecky
worldly hawk
My brother in christ, <:xdd:1086399274046193755> It's a freaking guardian raid, ...
this ^
queen grail
The dude is missing 2 Aegir and is low roster with T3 Bracer's so he's missing some things, but he's more than geared for a Guardian, his response is not ok regardless tho, that's going way to far.
wide stag
My brother in christ, <:xdd:1086399274046193755> It's a freaking guardian raid, ...
i wouldnt know, i just solo them cos its so easy, which is the whole point.. why does this guy even bother applying for lobbies and whispering random ppl when he couldve just been done already
covert remnant
My brother in christ, <:xdd:1086399274046193755> It's a freaking guardian raid, ...
the same people that warns when they missed hyper to a stun
worldly hawk
like who the fuck cares it's a guardian it either dies in 2mins or 2:30
queen grail
i wouldnt know, i just solo them cos its so easy, which is the whole point.. why...
Solo is boring for a lot of people, I dislike not having sup aura and I'm sure other's are the same.
worldly hawk
also playercount is declining rn because there is nothing really going on RN
queen grail
the same people that warns when they missed hyper to a stun
There's a few bad apples, and you just gotta ignore em, I do a ton of guardians and the amount of people being rude / pinging / etc, are almost zero
worldly hawk
people are done gearing their chars for kazeros playercount will go up again on release
stuck vortex
I mm Sokol
past salmon
skolakia full of too many new players
vagrant cradle
lunar hedge
I'm allergic to skolakia GRs
queen grail
Newest Lopang Alt but still getting onto MVP in Aegir Hard Pugs 
sand marsh
wise pasture
worldly hawk
<:think:838069227918721024> Newest Lopang Alt but still getting onto MVP in Aegi...
well ofc you're gonna MVP in aegir only giga rats are running it atm
queen grail
well ofc you're gonna MVP in aegir only giga rats are running it atm
It's a decent grp we clearing fast.
worldly hawk
i prefer doing strike NM over Aegir HM even tho i theoretically loose 2.5k gold
queen grail
i prefer doing strike NM over Aegir HM even tho i theoretically loose 2.5k gold
I'm just doing this to get free-boxes
It's non-gold.
worldly hawk
covert remnant
When did aegir become tough to raid
The cp requirements are 1700, 1500...
What more funny is 1300 leader setting req to 1400
worldly hawk
What more funny is 1300 leader setting req to 1400
he wants to get carried
not the people you wanna raid with usually
vagrant cradle
he wants to get carried
queen grail
When did aegir become tough to raid<:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
The cp require...
Wut, 1700/1500 for Aegir hard? That's overgeared lul.
covert remnant
Literally 3-4 lobbies 1500 cp requirement
queen grail
I got into 2 Hard Aegir earlier today on my 1100-1150 Alt's, just gotta check frequent and hopefully you'll find an ok grp 
wise pasture
you can always make one yourself
covert remnant
I just joined a 1200 grp and I'm the only 1400 kek
lunar hedge
When did aegir become tough to raid<:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
The cp require...
Never was, stupid people and their stupid rules they are making up
tulip charm
Never was, stupid people and their stupid rules they are making up
Saw some people they want 1500cs for strike normal lol
When it’s basicly a lopang raid
lunar hedge
worldly hawk
Never was, stupid people and their stupid rules they are making up
idk why people fomo gear so much you can have 2k cp and do zdps
wise pasture
obtuse oyster
Saw some people they want 1500cs for strike normal lol
I saw a 1700 cp one wednesday
people are wild in nm
tulip charm
<:PepoHype:491900395082481666>
I don’t understand
I still never seen these wings even once
wise pasture
wind dagger
Lmao
wise pasture
wise pasture
I still never seen these wings even once
I saw like 5-6 by now if we count both types together
burnt tree
undeserved wings
burnt tree
pls bann
wise pasture
not even 4 sups
worldly hawk
they are lucky idc about contribution and shit
and i always get no support stop hogging them
tulip charm
what is this game trying to tell me, i logged into a giant NDA, and my region isn't even there anymore
covert remnant
Time to quit
burnt tree
aish
tulip charm
i coudn't select the other region, had to relaunch and it fixed
quiet flower
Liar
stuck vortex
lol
burnt tree
thats poor mans moni
quiet flower
stuck vortex
I have more gold than you lol
stuck vortex
By not that much lol
quiet flower
u can barely buy 3 books
Books are whale bait
burnt tree
burnt tree
Books are whale bait
well i can either get +25 weap or books or accs
and im severely lacking in the book dep
quiet flower
burnt tree
and i cant afford +25 or accs
burnt tree
imagine dropping half a mil on a single H/M
stuck vortex
Crazy
burnt tree
eventually frfr
burnt tree
FMH does
wise pasture
✅
quiet flower
robust acorn
mass increase is like 20ki right
burnt tree
i dont play sleep spec
wise pasture
quiet flower
i dont play sleep spec
You play the complainer spec
burnt tree
well yes
quiet flower
mass increase is like 20ki right
stuck vortex
lol
robust acorn
quiet flower
20ki what
burnt tree
cause i find it more fun
than the meta spec
am i supposed to feel bad about that ong
burnt tree
Shorely
im gonna hit 100F on Netherworld and get 9 CDs, 2 Adrens and 20 grudge books
lunar hedge
Give her a tail and she's a umamusme
lunar hedge
worldly hawk
People inviting alt roster plebs into Mordum HM
ah yes the covert invite at 7/8
gotta lvoe it
quiet flower
worldly hawk
that's usually insta leave for me when i'm pugging
quiet flower
Surprised they put a little effort in
swift magnet
Give her a tail and she's a umamusme
quiet flower
But I refuse to play with alt rosters
swift magnet
Give her a tail and she's a umamusme
i take the glow as a tail xD
sand marsh
@tulip charm que is bigger than i thought lol
burnt tree
pretty 
queen grail
Surprised they put a little effort in
Low effort? 2k+ Combat Power, full single H Except 1 Earpiece, Rank 6 on T and 5 (Enough) on middle with Rank 6 on BrandPower and great bracer's 
quiet flower
<:think:838069227918721024> Low effort? 2k+ Combat Power, full single H Except 1...
I didn't say low
I said little
burnt tree
EU dented still caring about a title
queen grail
It's not even little effort 
wut, That char is quite geared.
burnt tree
shaft time?
quiet flower
Now this is my kinda lobby
queen grail
It's an alt roster
Then just say "I don't like alt rosters" Silly to call that Char "Low effort", It's quite geared, I'd say more than enough geared for anything out in the game right now.
sand marsh
smells like a jail
burnt tree
idk
quiet flower
Then just say "I don't like alt rosters" <:WeirdPaper:925061361296375819> Silly ...
Well if you cared to read literally my message under, you woulda seen that comment
Not my problem
2k GS at 1720 is low
queen grail
Well if you cared to read literally my message under, you woulda seen that comme...
I saw what you said under, does snot take away the point about "Little effort" 
Smh
wind dagger
what is mount antares again?
robust birch
queen grail
burnt tree
wdym grats
quiet flower
what is mount antares again?
Mordum
burnt tree
<:WeirdPaper:925061361296375819> Ok, my bad, do you want what I got?
--- There...
i prefer the korean version of the event
burnt tree
so this is nothing to me
sand marsh
I saw what you said under, does snot take away the point about "Little effort" <...
1720 2k is little effort...
quiet flower
i prefer the korean version of the event
I prefer China version
queen grail
Shoulda put more effort in
burnt tree
I prefer China version
china ver is different
burnt tree
bruh
quiet flower
queen grail
1720 2k is little effort...
Whales and Busser's that only play 1 class and therfor is a chepo don't get to have opinion's about effort, you're playing on Easymode bucko.
sand marsh
all i read was yap
quiet flower
queen grail
He's a supp main
I mean, some sup main's play all sup's and even that's more effort than, that.
sand marsh
yeah well i only enjoy one class in this game
u want me to play something I don't enjoy? weirdo
quiet flower
<a:orangexdd:1227724821505511448> I mean, some sup main's play all sup's and eve...
@wintry depot 
She a chad
burnt tree
ok but fund me 2 adren books scalp
tulip charm
<@647059249331044353> que is bigger than i thought lol
its always like that, also they increased the duration of the league, its 4months per league now instead of 3
queen grail
2k at 1720 is diabolical
It's kinda funny how you harp on EU being dent for "req's" for raid's, and here you're complaining about 2k Gearscore on 1720, something that's more than enough for any content we have, 
but, you know, you do you.
burnt tree
who tf will wear this
sand marsh
It's kinda funny how you harp on EU being dent for "req's" for raid's, and here ...
its about investment man. i've seen 1700s with just as much cp
quiet flower
It's kinda funny how you harp on EU being dent for "req's" for raid's, and here ...
Well he thinks you need to have H/H accs to do 1700 content so
sand marsh
i never said that
burnt tree
its about investment man. i've seen 1700s with just as much cp
alts of a giga juiced main
sand marsh
your spreading misinformation again
lunar hedge
who tf will wear this
Wth is that
sand marsh
typical of EU
burnt tree
who has the books and such to make it 2k at that ilvl
quiet flower
who tf will wear this
You
queen grail
its about investment man. i've seen 1700s with just as much cp
Ye, ok buddy, my bad, I forgot you play with whales that have full books and share 1 gem set so they put their full 10's on 1700 char's, we should all just do that.
burnt tree
Wth is that
fever time
wise pasture
queen grail
sand marsh
<:COPIUM:875701734771679282> Ye, ok buddy, my bad, I forgot you play with whales...
No. If you play efficiently instead of dispersing your gold across infinite characters, you'd have a good invested character. Some people may enjoy dispering across many characters, but the people that don't - have strong characters.
Most of the 1740-1740s I know have 1680 alts, not 1700s lol.
queen grail
Most of the 1740-1740s I know have 1680 alts, not 1700s lol.
1740-1740 
quiet flower
Better to have fun
sand marsh
1740-1740 <:WeirdPaper:1034716538214821888>
1740-1750
devout nymph
most 1740s i know jsut have a big wallet and the gold form the 1680s just extra
sand marsh
Better to have fun
If that is your definition of fun, that's fine.
devout nymph
sand marsh
But a lot of people are putting a lot of investment in with Kazeros coming up.
So the goal post is continuing to shift.
burnt tree
the problem is the reqs to even get in Kaz will be absurd 
queen grail
1740-1750
My brother in christ 1720 is not 1740.
And at 1720 having 2k power on a support is more than enough, there's zero content she's undergeared for, zero.
sand marsh
My brother in christ <:WeirdPaper:1034716538214821888> 1720 is not 1740.
And at ...
1400 is enough. 1500 is enough.
sand marsh
Does that mean I'd accept it, no lol
wise pasture
devout nymph
Ify ou want max gold efficiency, alts shouldn't be higher than 1640
no u farm irl
sand marsh
hell, no gems on a support is enough
devout nymph
sand marsh
but i wouldnt take it xdd
wise pasture
you can do aegir HM with 800cp just fine, doesnt mean anyone would like that
sand marsh
you can do mordum with 3 engravings if you know the fight well
its enough
i aint taking it tho
queen grail
1400 is enough. 1500 is enough.
Ok buddy, this convo is as fruitless as an apple orchard in the winter, 
wise pasture
wise pasture
what If we have winter trees
devout nymph
17coins today, not too shabby
sand marsh
In the pug world, since the inception of lost ark, people have always expected investment. It's just increased three-fold with Kazeros around the corner.
queen grail
People gatekeep.
Why don't people accept me.
Brother in christ, where are the dps now...
quiet flower
Because pugs, on average, are stupid
burnt tree
nvm its cubers
sand marsh
I remember when T4 launched, people had alts with T3 gems still and got denied. It's the same shit all over again. People just don't learn.
devout nymph
Because pugs, on average, are stupid
no they arent stupid, they are just dead, the cp they want is for half of the raid being dead
burnt tree
quiet flower
Need gear to skip mechs that you don't know how to do properly
quiet flower
Just failed the stagger check 2x on that Mordum group; one guy starts raging so I just did quit vote 
queen grail
Meanwhile I'm over here at 1100 Combat Power on Alt's joining raid's easy 
burnt tree
sounds like ure just unhappy if ure rushing to be off om
quiet flower
People just want to do the raid fast so they can log off.
Just buy a bus then so you can AFK instead
sand marsh
sounds like ure just unhappy if ure rushing to be off om
No I just don't want to take any chances.
And I enjoy playing with people that are invested
not rats
quiet flower
You take chances the minute you sign up to play with 7 other bozos
Still a gamble whether the guy with 3K GS can play or not
Just had a 2.9k slayer die before stagger check finished in G1
burnt tree
idk i think the way some ppl play LOA is absurd
queen grail
What raids do you guys join? I do like 30+ raids per week and I don't remember last time I had a jail or even close too it, Never any rager's either, or maybe once in a blue moon.
sand marsh
Yea the entire game is a gamble, but on average a player with more investment will play better. This is always the case and the only logical conclusion.
quiet flower
The only people I experience raging are Lord of Thunder players
Their heads are so far up their own asses thinking they're Gods gift
worldly hawk
Yea the entire game is a gamble, but on average a player with more investment wi...
that's not true
my experience says the oppossite
queen grail
The only people I experience raging are Lord of Thunder players
I'm LOT, most people are LOT, and I'm chill.
sand marsh
Well you can live by your ancedotal experience and I'll live by mine 🙂
worldly hawk
people that invest are more likely to go mental boom if something goes wrong
burnt tree
all of u are an anecdote
sand marsh
That's my experience and I'll live by it.
quiet flower
Well you can live by your ancedotal experience and I'll live by mine 🙂
You say that yet continue to yap about people's investments
worldly hawk
this ^
queen grail
And invested players pump
yea, I agree, the full 10 Zerker with 25 wep in Akkan Hard doing 5k dps sure pumped man.
sand marsh
You say that yet continue to yap about people's investments <:OMEGALUL:106364111...
I just see random people and laugh at them.
quiet flower
<:COPIUM:875701734771679282> yea, I agree, the full 10 Zerker with 25 wep in Akk...
Zeals is that you
sand marsh
It's funny
burnt tree
at the end of the day most elitisits are losers
quiet flower
No wait he played Slayer
burnt tree
worldly hawk
at the end of the day most elitisits are losers
this ^^^^^^^
quiet flower
queen grail
Zeals is that you
Zeal's might be a pepega, but he pushes buttons at least.
quiet flower
People ask LoT for shit like Brel and Aegir still
queen grail
I have ptsd from that zerker.
quiet flower
worldly hawk
No wait he played Slayer
zeals was more distraced by the boobs than playing the game
quiet flower
zeals was more distraced by the boobs than playing the game
I mean who isn't right
B ut he's playing gachas now
sand marsh
at the end of the day most elitisits are losers
It's not about being elistist. Why would I want to play with someone who hasn't even put in 10% of the gold I put into my character? I don't have the moral obligation to carry anyone lol.
Sorry but I'm not an altruist.
high fog
It just comes down to odds at the end of the day
worldly hawk
It's not about being elistist. Why would I want to play with someone who hasn't ...
that's literally elitist
sand marsh
that's literally elitist
It's not. It's playing with like-minded people...?
queen grail
I just see random people and laugh at them.
I also laught at giga juiced support's with low main stats and bad 3'th effect on acc's
burnt tree
It's not about being elistist. Why would I want to play with someone who hasn't ...
the wild part is assumign someones beign carried for not having spent the gold u have
high fog
On average a better geared player does more damage and is more likely to know the raid than the worse geared player
You can never know who’s good and who’s not
sand marsh
the wild part is assumign someones beign carried for not having spent the gold u...
Because that's what always happen
burnt tree
"always"
sand marsh
It's my anecdotal experience sahtona
high fog
Unless you’ve played with them before so you just play the odds
quiet flower
the wild part is assumign someones beign carried for not having spent the gold u...
I would agree with it if he was a juiced DPS player
sand marsh
Yes, every time.
queen grail
You can never know who’s good and who’s not
Better skin > Better player's.
sand marsh
Every single time
worldly hawk
On average a better geared player does more damage and is more likely to know th...
and the more geared that player is the more likely it is that he'll go mental boom on the slightest inconvinice
quiet flower
midnight drift
easy solution make the lobby with cp lock requirement
high fog
and the more geared that player is the more likely it is that he'll go mental bo...
Yea but you get enough of em and there won’t be an inconvenience
burnt tree
i just think 90% of the elitists have some lofty unrealistic standards going on
high fog
Like people int all the time but it doesn’t matter if the group is strong enough
burnt tree
based on my anecdotal experience ofc
worldly hawk
Yea but you get enough of em and there won’t be an inconvenience
in my exp people that are less geared try harder because they have to
quiet flower
I should go back to just buying F4 gold - €100 = 1 week worth of gold without the hastle of dealing with other people
high fog
in my exp people that are less geared try harder because they have to
But like I don’t need people to try
sand marsh
based on my anecdotal experience ofc
And my anecdotal experience is everytime I take rats, shit goes sideways
high fog
I need people to do their thing and then I’ll get my gold
burnt tree
what exactly is a rat atp
quiet flower
But like I don’t need people to try
I just tell people to put Heavy Armor on if they can't survive mechs
worldly hawk
what exactly is a rat atp
atp 1680 no?
worldly hawk
cauus everyone has their char at 1680 xD
high fog
It doesn’t matter if the higher geared player is doing 70% of his possible damage and the lower geared player is doing 90% of his possible damage
burnt tree
i just think its wild ppl have the requirements u need for a 4man bus slapped on 8mans
high fog
If 70% of the higher geared players damage is like 50% more than 90% of the lower geared guy
burnt tree
sand marsh
i just think its wild ppl have the requirements u need for a 4man bus slapped on...
It's because of the anecdotes people have experienced.
worldly hawk
i just think its wild ppl have the requirements u need for a 4man bus slapped on...
i've been pugging my 1680 for months now and got jailed maybe once or twice
sand marsh
Just how it is
worldly hawk
and always because some overgeared bozo got triggered by something
quiet flower
It's kinda funny that these "high geared" players only want to play with other high geared players but refuse to join a static
sand marsh
Well for me, it's anecdotal experience.
burnt tree
worldly hawk
@sand marsh question how many of your raids do you fully pug and how many do you static?
because i pug 95% of my raids
sand marsh
It's kinda funny that these "high geared" players only want to play with other h...
Not everyone wants to play on Billy's schedule who works a 9-5, gets off work, has to take care of his 3 kids and deal with his wife then finally clock into lost ark at 9pm EST and only have 2 hours to play or something.
Made up situation but uh
burnt tree
im still stuck on the part where ppl take this game more seriously than T1 cares about Worlds
sand marsh
I prefer to raid when I want.
wintry depot
im still stuck on the part where ppl take this game more seriously than T1 cares...
keria carried
burnt tree
keria carried
frfr
sand marsh
<@429948941581418496> question how many of your raids do you fully pug and how m...
I pug 99% of my raids.
quiet flower
im still stuck on the part where ppl take this game more seriously than T1 cares...
The ones that need carrying are usually the loudest when it comes to their commitment to the game 
vagrant cradle
I pug 99% of my raids.
worldly hawk
I pug 99% of my raids.
yeah that's cap and youu know it 
wintry depot
unlucky that he didnt carry new jeans
sand marsh
yeah that's cap and youu know it <:xdd:1215335531517313024>
uh ok? believe what you want. i have no reason to lie lol
burnt tree
i wanted to see their faces on god
sand marsh
I only run strike HM with my TFM static. THat's it.
high fog
yeah that's cap and youu know it <:xdd:1215335531517313024>
Tbh it’s prob true outside of bus runs
sand marsh
I pug everything else
high fog
That man runs stuff at ungodly hours
burnt tree
https://tenor.com/view/memem-newjeans-minji-hanni-minjiballon23-minji-ballon-gif-5894546978992001708
wintry depot
i mean it was giga expected they would lose
high fog
Like I’m a naw playing on nae and I’ll sometimes see him in lobbies as I’m getting off lol
wintry depot
did you see they even appealed
burnt tree
well yeah
worldly hawk
idk i pug everything and i have 0 issues even in less geared lobbies
wintry depot
next time, dont follow the witch
burnt tree
it justs just crazy since the entire thing felt like they had no lawyers xd
worldly hawk
well almost everything i don't pug my HMs on my main
burnt tree
i love how they blamed everything on MHJ at the court
like "she cooked ur asses girls"
wintry depot
Because she did
burnt tree
yeah the fact she could have assisted them as an outsider
of the company
but bailed
sand marsh
idk i pug everything and i have 0 issues even in less geared lobbies
Yeah I've tried joining less geared lobbies and it never goes well. So I stopped. Just play with people in my bracket.
high fog
well almost everything i don't pug my HMs on my main
I think I pug either fully or semi like 70% of my raids these days. The most important thing is the supports tbh.
burnt tree
high fog
Dps can be carried, supports will take the entire party with them xdd
worldly hawk
I think I pug either fully or semi like 70% of my raids these days. The most imp...
i cleared my blocklist recently, caus most of them were from 2023, now theres like 99% supps on there that went giga mental kaboom
burnt tree
when its time to renew the publishing contract for lost ark and ags says no
worldly hawk
Yeah I've tried joining less geared lobbies and it never goes well. So I stopped...
idk what types of lobbies you join, in EU i literally never have issues, and if there is an issue you can usually tell in G1 and dip
had 1 jail in 2 months
high fog
idk what types of lobbies you join, in EU i literally never have issues, and if ...
That’s the thing tho, in giga geared lobbies there’s pretty much never an issue
burnt tree
worldly hawk
someone got sniped
queen grail
burnt tree
quiet flower
idk what types of lobbies you join, in EU i literally never have issues, and if ...
People will stick it out
queen grail
someone got sniped
Myself, I didn't want to be too mean, still
worldly hawk
People will stick it out
yeah you can pretty much tell instantly if they know the raid or not
queen grail
Who cares about being mean to 7 randoms
Huh?
sand marsh
idk what types of lobbies you join, in EU i literally never have issues, and if ...
Yeah that's good for you, but not my experience
worldly hawk
guess people on NA have less hands
quiet flower
<:shruge:1100304847183560726> guess people on NA have less hands
Why do you think on NA they have, on average, higher GS?
No hands but more money to swipe with
sand marsh
<:shruge:1100304847183560726> guess people on NA have less hands
No, I just avoid rats and never have problems lol. I haven't been jailed in a very, very long time.
burnt tree
scalps drex lobby asking for 3k+ gear score was crazy
worldly hawk
like this is a perfect example
high fog
The only jail I’ve been in this year is when we were teaching a returner friend and their internet went out
worldly hawk
like 1740 with 1740 support and does no damage
queen grail
idk what types of lobbies you join, in EU i literally never have issues, and if ...
Same, joined an "bad geared" Aegir hard today and was smooth sailing and fast clear, I was on mvp as 1150, but even slightly bad grps tend to have no issues.
worldly hawk
and 1700 slayer is pumping like crazy
quiet flower
scalps drex lobby asking for 3k+ gear score was crazy
Must be 1730+ with full relics and H/Hs
high fog
like 1740 with 1740 support and does no damage
Yea but you can pick out infinite examples of people doing worse than they should
There’s no real way to know as a lobby lead if they are good or not
burnt tree
Must be 1730+ with full relics and H/Hs <:Clueless:1043239065790717952>
1720 guardian 3500 CP with double high bracelet, accs, +25 weap
quiet flower
Same, <:think:838069227918721024> joined an "bad geared" Aegir hard today and wa...
Because people will play the mechs if they don't overgear it
worldly hawk
Yea but you can pick out infinite examples of people doing worse than they shoul...
like that's not even worse as they should that's just black out drunk levels of playing
high fog
The only thing you can know is that on average the better geared player does more
worldly hawk
wasn't any better in G3 also
high fog
So you might as well take the better odds when grabbing someone
swift magnet
moneys
burnt tree
whats so bad about doing mechs 
queen grail
Because people will play the mechs if they don't overgear it
I mean, shit's also easy, we phased from mech to mech in G1, and in G2 we even skipped 2 mechs even with "trash damage".
high fog
Because even if man was underperforming giga he’s second in the lobby
swift magnet
quiet flower
whats so bad about doing mechs <:AYOOO:1243286228783337472>
Nothing - But the overgeared players tend to fall over if they have to do mechs
Because they overgeared to skip
worldly hawk
Nothing - But the overgeared players tend to fall over if they have to do mechs
yeah they go giga mental boom usually
had an artist recently that went giga mental after someone got hit by lines in Mordum G1
and we failed stagger
and she went full on mental boom
burnt tree
Because they overgeared to skip
damn, what if im upgrading just to progress my character instead of saving 60seconds
am i crazyyyyyyy
high fog
I mean then why is this a concern, is it not better for you to not even bother with stronger lobbies then.
worldly hawk
like chillax it's 1 wipe at the start of the raid calm your tiddies
quiet flower
Twice now Lost Ark has crashed to desktop randomly
swift magnet
i needed it xD
quiet flower
Nice update
high fog
The current state is optimal for you then no?
burnt tree
Nice update
skill issue, i had zero crashes
sand marsh
So I guess you should never become overgeared because then you will magically become someone who has a mental boom. Strange logic.
worldly hawk
Twice now Lost Ark has crashed to desktop randomly <a:Thinkge:115328542930764595...
when is the last time you updated your drivers?
quiet flower
skill issue, i had zero crashes
To have crashes requires you to log in
high fog
The better geared folk run those lobbies everyone else runs standard lobbies, undergeared runs undergeared lobbies
quiet flower
when is the last time you updated your drivers?
I have them always up to date
high fog
No harm no foul
worldly hawk
So I guess you should never become overgeared because then you will magically be...
that's not what i said at all
but sure 
sand marsh
that's not what i said at all
Sounds like it. But if that's not it then it's ok
sand marsh
The better geared folk run those lobbies everyone else runs standard lobbies, un...
Yea people should apply within their bracket.
high fog
Like the core complaint can’t at the same time be, I want to play with better geared players, and better geared players should not want to play with better geared players.
sand marsh
Yeah can't expect overgeared players to play with undergeared or average players.
quiet flower
Yea people should apply within their bracket.
Won't happen because rats want to play with people who can carry them
And other instances people will just accept anyone to get the lobby started
Then wonder why it's full of imposters
sand marsh
And that is why I deny them. If you want me to carry you that comes with a charge xdd
devout nymph
can someone summarize me what sgoing on i dont get it
high cp ppl play with high cp ppl and deny low cp ppl is what im reading
high fog
Standard gatekeeping argument
queen grail
So I guess you should never become overgeared because then you will magically be...
Let's say you did strike, at 2x he does the single target tile destroy and the guy who get's it run's away to early and blow's up middle and you wipe on 2x.
This is after a silly wipe due to Tornado mech prior.
Be honest now, no lying, how would you react?
high fog
Nothing new that hasn’t been said 5 million times
quiet flower
sand marsh
Let's say you did strike, at 2x he does the single target tile destroy and the g...
I would just go again?
Mistakes happen. No human being is perfect.
queen grail
I would just go again?
worldly hawk
I would just go again?
i call 🧢
sand marsh
I can just screenshot meter application where there were 3 wipes in strike raid and i stll kept going
sand marsh
Disbanding and finding more people is generally more time consuming then running it back again
high fog
The standard I see when pugging strike these days has been, if it’s not egregious or repeated go again. If they mess up twice replace them and go back.
Raids not particularly difficult anyways so it’s nbd
burnt tree
ezpz
sand marsh
I usually give a 3 strike rule, but the 3rd wipe was my fault. I got sucked in at that one mech cause I wasn't paying attention. Alt tabbed to discord lol
high fog
I’m more of a, if it’s funny I’m ok with it
high fog
If it’s an arty turreting up with target and not moving
I will raid stop
Xdd
I have anti arti and breaker biases during strike raid
burnt tree
wear a proper pant , i can see the pantsu <:KEKW:834726120606924850>
waiting for these on Nov 19
high fog
I will be the first to admit it and I’m not ashamed
burnt tree
<:think:838069227918721024> I see, I was missing dps, and you didn't join, cool,...
i didnt see ur lobby
plus i matchmade
high fog
He called u a bozo unluck
burnt tree
nah if i saw Alys pf id join
queen grail
It's ok, next time I see a "This will kill Sathona If I don't shield him mech" I'll just let him die
queen grail
burnt tree
but when i checked he didnt have a lobby there
also based on this conversation my valk a rat
sand marsh
If I have prior context that the rat can not be a burden on the party, I'd take it. But I don't know any rats lol.
worldly hawk
<:think:838069227918721024> I never inspect in Guardian raid.
yeah same i just take what applies
burnt tree
it was an anecdote pls
sand marsh
50% sounds about right
burnt tree
queen grail
yeah same i just take what applies
I once got a dude who had, I don't even know, I think he was missing some stuff and engravings or whatever, I don't have meter but I'm pretty sure he did like 500 dps, not 500k, 500.
sand marsh
oh 13%. what the fuck
sand marsh
1700 CP being top 13% means... there's a lot of rats in 1700-1710 ilvl range
worldly hawk
my slayer
queen grail
See, @sand marsh This is what I'm saying, you have no clue on gear range silly man thinking everyone at 1700-1710 is insane geared.
queen grail
My brother in christ, 1700 Combat Power for 1700 is more than fine, huh.
sand marsh
<:WeirdPaper:925061361296375819> My brother in christ, 1700 Combat Power for 170...
I never argued that it wasn't?
Idk why you keep bringing that up lmao
worldly hawk
I never argued that it wasn't?
oh please you would never take a 1700 with 1500cp
burnt tree
well u probably do for Kaz G2 since 1730s+ will be forced to do it if they dont have 3500 CP
worldly hawk
be honest
queen grail
And this is why Combat Power Restrictive grps are going to be pepega because people have no clue on what most people are in terms of gear or what's needed.
sand marsh
oh please you would never take a 1700 with 1500cp
Of course I wouldn't... all my characters are 2k+ cp and 1710+
I play within my bracket.
queen grail
I legit had a buddy needing one dps for Brell hard asking if 2300 Combat Power was too little 
like bro.
burnt tree
my brutha
sand marsh
You can probably get away with 1k cp for mordum nm.
worldly hawk
just need gold now
sand marsh
It's just that, it looks very bad lol
worldly hawk
You can probably get away with 1k cp for mordum nm.
1.1k is bare minimum i would say
queen grail
I never argued that it wasn't?
because you make it sound like 1700 Combat Power on 1700 is rat, when It's not, you're just wonky and expect full books and full 8's
worldly hawk
1500 on a 1700 is kinda eeh
1500 is literally the avg tho
what ehh about beeing avg
high fog
Which is why it is eeh
sand marsh
<:COPIUM:875701734771679282> because you make it sound like 1700 Combat Power on...
Yeah books have been out for a while so i generally do expect some of it done. I'm not saying 1700 is terrible lol. It's more than fine for all content in the game currently. I'm just not taking it. It's my party. What's the issue?
high fog
Could go either way
devout nymph
<:WeirdPaper:925061361296375819> My brother in christ, 1700 Combat Power for 170...
no its shifted because there arent alot of valkeries at 1700 and its a new class
queen grail
Yeah books have been out for a while so i generally do expect some of it done. I...
Ok mister support.
devout nymph
if you look at zerks or sorcs or odler classes you ahve to add up like 50cp to get the same %
queen grail
Your books all combined cost less than one dps book maxed.
burnt tree
sand marsh
Don't know why you are bringing that up.
burnt tree
cause hes right? lol
worldly hawk
^
queen grail
My man's playing on easy mode wondering why other dps can't do the same
sand marsh
It's not relevant to the conversation.
burnt tree
it is
worldly hawk
it really is
burnt tree
u have to invest A LOT less
sand marsh
You bringing up that I'm a support comes off very deragotory and rude.
burnt tree
specially since u play only paladin across the board
sand marsh
I want to play support. What's the issue?
queen grail
It is super relevant, you're expecting people to be ultra-geared with 10 million in books meanwhile you have to put in a fraction of that to be "Equal" and having an attitute about it.
sand marsh
I still expect DPS to have a book finished at the minimum.
worldly hawk
the issue is that you expect DPS to have the same amount of books while they cost 10x more than yours do
queen grail
Two? Ok, brb let's see how much that will be for my main.
worldly hawk
even 2 books is still 2x your investment
burnt tree
<:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
ok carry me Kazeros
sand marsh
Ok so don't buy books ever
sand marsh
idk what you are trying to say here
queen grail
Ok, 11,6 million gold.
sand marsh
wah too expensive
i dont care
its my party, i take who i want.
gg end of discussion
queen grail
Sure, you can do that, but we can still have opinions about bad takes.
queen grail
I never said anything about your grp's.
You can do whatever you want to do.
It's still a bad take.
worldly hawk
Sure, you can do that, but we can still have opinions about bad takes.
this ^
vagrant cradle
this ^
https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-food-bowl-persian-annoyed-cucciolinodipanna-gif-13484529227984596079
sand marsh
Your the same person who criticized my high/high accessories when you don't even have your accessories done.
burnt tree
not even 2k
yall complain im a whale but ure like "its mid" if my alt is geared like an alt
worldly hawk
https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-food-bowl-persian-annoyed-cucciolinodipanna-gif-...
imma kiss you on the mouth
sand marsh
I'll never take anything you say seriously.
burnt tree
vagrant cradle
imma kiss you on the mouth
queen grail
I swear why can't dps have books for 10 million + at least full 8's on 1720 I did it, It was so easy.
That's what I'm reading.
And I can feel myself getting slightly dent
sand marsh
<:COPIUM:875701734771679282> I swear why can't dps have books for 10 million + a...
I literally never said that
worldly hawk
Your the same person who criticized my high/high accessories when you don't even...
brother we don't have our accs done because we have to invest 10x more into our chars than you have to?????
sand marsh
You are putting words in my mouth
worldly hawk
are you okay
queen grail
I literally never said that
worldly hawk
I literally never said that
you did very much say that
burnt tree
he didnt but still
sand marsh
I never specified which books.
high fog
I think this is like
sand marsh
Again, can't read.
high fog
A bit over what id expect for a hmord app
Could get away with a bit less for comfy comfy raiding
queen grail
Again, can't read.
Why would you specifie the books? You're not the dps using them, how is that relevant.
queen grail
But sure, humor me, what books mister @sand marsh
sand marsh
Okay aly. whats your solution. I take no book enjoyers forever?
Please tell me what your proposal is
queen grail
I want to know what books you're thinking dps should have 2 off now.
burnt tree
cryge
queen grail
What books mister @sand marsh ?
wintry depot
can you calm down
wintry depot
i didnt read everything
devout nymph
the proprosal is you wont play with each other so it doesnt matter
wintry depot
i cba
burnt tree
he said 1-2 maxed books
devout nymph
wintry depot
but calm down
queen grail
can you calm down
I'm calm, I'm just wondering what books he's talking about.
worldly hawk
you can go with stablized status or some shit. just something
ok and what if my class gets 0 benefit from those 2 books
queen grail
This is ragebait, bye 
sand marsh
ok and what if my class gets 0 benefit from those 2 books
your class uses master brawler
worldly hawk
what books then sir
burnt tree
u can use ether pred
worldly hawk
right and the other 4 are still 10x your investment
sand marsh
that too
Okay so what do you want me to do about that
I don't control the market
don't cry about it lol
safe lark
everyone has books
burnt tree
ezpz
faint grove
ep barricade supercharge stabilized masterbrawler 
sand marsh
lower your expectations maybe
Ok i'll be a divine saint that takes all people who have no investment.
sand marsh
Thank you for this ted talk
lunar hedge
I'm just here for the popcorn
sand marsh
You have enlightened me.
worldly hawk
why do yall care, hes na youre eu
something something bad take something goalpost
wintry depot
everyone talking to walls
burnt tree
im just here cause lost ark is doomed both ways
sand marsh
I want to play with juiced players. Support people who are not juiced just doesn't feel good.
Sorry if you are offended by that.
faint grove
most of supp cp is fake
worldly hawk
DPS cp is easier to increase than support.
devout nymph
thats hafl true and half wrong
faint grove
meant more that a low cp supp can be as "juiced" as a high cp supp since 80% of the engravings are fake and half the jewelry rolls are fake
lunar hedge
Gamba panda made the verdict
worldly hawk
If you play the game you'd know it's true.
calling something a fact when you know better is WILD anyways this isn't going anywhere i'm out
robust birch
wintry depot
80% ? ok relax, only expert is fake
sand marsh
calling something a fact when you know better is WILD anyways this isn't going a...
Okay.
faint grove
everything except magick stream is fake more or less yeah
wintry depot
how is drops fake
xddddddd
ha maxmp doesnt give cp
so theres only awakening left and its not fake
sand marsh
We don't scale off attack power either. Only weapon power.
devout nymph
the true part is that support bracelet with triple lien is way harder to get than a good dps5liner
the false part is that books and accessories are way cheaper than the dps part
vagrant cradle
https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-food-bowl-persian-annoyed-cucciolinodipanna-gif-13484529227984596079
sand marsh
I never said it's cheaper.
worldly hawk
the false part is that books and accessories are way cheaper than the dps part
and not even a little cheaper like 10x cheaper
vagrant cradle
the true part is that support bracelet with triple lien is way harder to get tha...
bro it's so fucking hard to get a good support bracelet
wintry depot
books are cheaper but accs is cheaper but not that much cheaper
sand marsh
I said increasing the CP is easier for a DPS as you have more avenues for increasing CP.
vagrant cradle
sand marsh
All of your books increase your CP
pliant musk
Felt the need to make this, it was fun making the gears and spades. The frame was a bit annoying to make....
wintry depot
at least months ago when i was buyign accs
lunar hedge
Felt the need to make this, it was fun making the gears and spades. The frame wa...
Hey, you don't need to repost across channels
Looks nice anyway
pliant musk
Hey, you don't need to repost across channels
I realized I posted by accident in general and not here lol
devout nymph
I said increasing the CP is easier for a DPS as you have more avenues for increa...
more avenues doesnt mean its easier, unless you can elaborate - the 1mill you put into support gives you mroe cp than the 1million you put into dps
lunar hedge
We will still be looking at general anyway
sand marsh
more avenues doesnt mean its easier, unless you can elaborate - the 1mill you pu...
More avenues means it is inherently easier. Put the gold cost aside and you'll understand.
faint grove
ofc being a dps is harder, books cost 20 mill
devout nymph
alright thats the statement i wanted to hear, can we move on
anyone got a good story to tell me about
lunar hedge
Female gamers never existed
burnt tree
anyone got a good story to tell me about
NA has maintenance tomorrow
faint grove
only hard part about being a supp is having to deal with every juiced lobby having some rat ass 1500 cp trash alt roster supp hogging the spots
pliant musk
Female gamers never existed
Sure we do :3 we are just invisible majority of the time at least I am
worldly hawk
<:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
devout nymph
females doesnt exist on the internet
how can girls math exist on the internet, if females dont exist on the internet
vagrant cradle
burnt tree
how can girls math exist on the internet, if females dont exist on the internet
Cause its AI
devout nymph
but AI can math
devout nymph
burnt tree
AI is immitating
robust birch
He ain't clip it yet still a he
burnt tree
Degen ragebaiting again
burnt tree
Lol
burnt tree
Its ok ure NA so i can't KoS you
robust birch
I am asmongold #1 fan so maybe asmodian
burnt tree
Oh i can't kill you if ure Asmodian
lunar hedge
https://tenor.com/view/flanders-company-tv-show-hitomi-cat-drop-gif-17323150
Is. Is that
Om
queen grail
Is. Is that
I have no idea who it is
lunar hedge
I'm trying not to slur Aly
burnt tree
Did Sac stutter via text
robust birch
https://tenor.com/view/flanders-company-tv-show-hitomi-cat-drop-gif-17323150
What a beautiful woman