#lost-ark-discussions
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i still do
but less
u think someones gonna flame you for the smallest thing imaginable?
no
prob closer to letting people down





Come fund my Scrapper
It is Tai
i meant shock
does ur scrapper also do giga dam now

You see, Sathona is certified whale and as such he needs swimming pool the size of Texas to not feel anxious inside
im anxious


bruh i hate when i have dcs, scared to do anything
If the support is bad
The raid anxiety goes up
Because then you know it’s not just you but your entire team that’s fucked
Xd
For a busser who whale's and play's only one class damn your roster is kinda stinky ngl, you need to love your alts more.
Needs a swimming pool amount of iced coffee to get the breakfast tummy ache
Damn, you've not been lucky with quality,
wish you more luck! 
Whale
mmm let me see what my quality is like
never
All with Lv 8 full set of gems
why not, great for cubes and chaos and guardian
Moist me
moist meeeeee
ok you bitchy trampoline
wow rude
the real insanity was this though
never need to touch this stupid system again
actually good 5/5?
bis+ whatever good wp/int/atk i could grab
Happy Halloween 👻
oh thats not you
that’s not me, I clipped Maru
so good enough
I aint even got 666 on my main yet 
yeah, that is quite impressive
nope that's a trap.
like my paladin took 3weeks longer than the 2nd last one
I rather my main be max item level
think my paladin took over 1k elixirs to get his set
honing actually not that bad anymore with apradise
Says the guy that fell for valk bait
you get nuff mats so you jsut need to pump in raw gold to hone
you live and learn
if valk had a higher ceiling than paladin I would of stuck with it
im talking about support...
doesnt valk have a higher ceiling technically?
not dps lol
mine be like
Not for support no
because you technically have the 2% thats always on
ITS NOT DB
THEREFOR IT WAS DOOMED
FROM THE BEGINNING
Hope that clarified it for you
valky buffs hit harder when they are up than paladins one, no?
about the same I think, but paladin had better spec scaling I think
like not talking about the higher uptime pala has, im pretty sure valk had like a 2% buff thats always on or something
Buffs are based on gearing. There is more rat paladin alt rosters (until Valks exploded in numbers)
Would have thought you'd be at least 1755 also with no investment into alts.
Chop Chop! 
Fuck paladin btw
Yeah except I did invest into them.
And dropped millions of gold on Valk on launch
If I didn't do those things yeah I'd be close to 1755
got baited by boobies
classic tale
anyone mentioned booba?
Valk is a better support anyway's, should have just made the swap.
She's way better than Paladin
But aight.
To a gooner, sure

Typical zerker

Aren’t those kinds all Slayer mains now?
No she isn't.
Paladin has a higher ceiling lol.
She's better in healing department. That's about it.
us zerkers be like 
the ragebait is immaculate
Ye but he still mains zerk so he's a gooner but doesn't wanna admit it

Just better, one of the best Brands in the game, high mobility, instant heal with zero opportunity loss, one of the best "At demand Mitigation zone", double counter, and despite what people say or think her spec scaling is not bad.
Delete paladin
wouldnt a class that has less identityuptiem and therefore need to plan their buffs better have a higher ceiling?

Deathboi is uptime gooner, cares more about the identity %
wouldnt artist win in that department then
you do, I’m removing all your gunners’ balls
I only have 2 of those. 1 is a former main and 1 is a lopang so go for it
And? Her AP Rotation and Uptime is good, and her Z/T Is also good, not to mention she's using a lot of QR Runes for more T's
Yeah but no one is swapping to a gender unlocked artist

Omg If the gender unlock is a grown ass adult ill swap fr
Huh, Artist has the highest Z Uptime of all supports, or did I miss-read you?
She's a grown midget, don't height shame people 
thats a child
idc
Ends up being Ghin bodytype but cow/deer/elk themed
Gnomes in WoW are kids? 
who tf is that
your buff desire from rimeria msq
Gnomes, like Hobbits are like squashed adults tho.

Ugly Is the word you're looking for with wow gnomes 
oh, daddy
thats a grown ass man
man
yeah i beleive so thanks to orbs refunding and timing being pretty good
young adult, same age as main character
cool
like you can buff in 5s windows bards dont wanna 3bar in
hax
gtfo my face with this shit
Relic selector and guarantee quality ez
Not anymore from my understanding
this game is shit
That 5 day a limit is a scam
it also alligns better with certain classes like valky
Her identity is a pure downgrade from paladin.
And I only care about parsing in this game.
I mean, I had like 98% Z Uptime in Brel G1 
i cant destroy it so ill let it expire in my inventory
Paladin is still stinky, and Valk better, but you play what you love man, I aint here to stop ya.
I mean, she has nice body
OHHHHHH DADDY!!!
i havent got this loading screen yet
I see it a lot
I get it, he's a male class. But I don't care about looks or gender lol. I'm here to parse
may you pity every item you ever touch from now on 
hope your account gets permad
ala has arguebly one of the weakest atro windows
doesn't care about the qaulity of the % 
buff quality tbh is affected by rat support gearing or not
moreso than any class
like i thought it was universally agreed upon that bard is the highest ceiling support
She is but Bard is also a DPS now
she does
Why are pallys trying to dps? Idk.
just wanna understand the logic behind that statement
They’re dummies trying to copy Broshaza
ehhh, the supports have different value on their iden and spec scaling ontop of that
Yeah well, in order to copy broshaza you have to not be a broke bitch
they fail instantly
THERES SOMETHING STRANGE......IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
Im not there
actually does she has the highest T uptime as well?
undeserved ngl
deserved
yeah, cause she gets cdr from her leap tree
I think bard has the lowest t uptime
i guess she has, but damn is that ceiling T so much higher
looks like a 5%+ difference
Yea, thoughts so, there's no way a Paladin can beat in terms of Aura vs Ball uptime
yeah, like ~4%
i beleive artist buffs during atro are probably the weakest though due spec scaling
like im guessing its Bard>valky>pala>artist during atro
Artist > Valk > Bard > Gunlancer Blue > Paladin 
if the artist is good and it isn't a blitz speed hw run, yeah. She'll naturally have higher iden uptime (assuming both supports are eqaully skilled and geared)
has to do with the structure of the dps as well, taking valk or arcana as example, artist can buff on demand, pala has a hard time to do that
same with bard
valk can just build gauge without needing to hit hte boss
so she can be desync from your 3 bubble window
dont even think bard can build 3bar as fast as valk can build a X
So I guess Lost Ark is somehow avoiding the AGS mess?
small team
huge profit
Inb4 Tencent, buyout
in the meantime artist throws 5s buff and calls it a day
hits like a wet noodle in comparison though
you can build it decently fast with 6% iden neck, higher cds and some shifting of spec
yeah but a valk can build like stupid fast no, like 10s if you run all 4 cdr nodes with relic adr and some bracelet help
yep, at least until the contract is up
Amazon said they will honor their contracts, who knows what that looks like, Hopefully they find a new publisher
which one?
wut r u on abt
Activision 
wtf
at least it wasnt post stage break
i didnt dc since ages
they always fail to bring one up when you ask them 
aws moment
SEE
just reconnect and eat some popcorn
yeye
thats what happened to me

since reset
need to restart the game xDD
everytime im dcing im like, let me grab some snack guys brb
i think on that error youre cooked either way
its fine i can eat my spaghetti
Not surprising. All the western publishers have awful reputations
if you click ok too fast it kicks you to server select and gives you duplicate login error xdd
dw it will take me 5mins to load the game
yea exactly.. they def have their flaws and fked up heavily in some situations, but considering how "big" their team is theyre not doing a bad job in my opinion, at least since matt is at the wheel and not snoozin park anymore
You mean microsoft
finally we get some decent book from paradise, still 1,3m below average tho
Activision doesn’t exist anymore
shouldve been crisis evasion instead of grudge
and same
dunno what happened after patch
my internet is stable
got those at least 5 times by now 
i still got all my keys to run
and next week we dont even need to hold the spare one for altar

🤔 is it end?
yea season ends on 12th
AWS and Azure cloud servers starting to buckle under a year of vibe coding being used in network maintenance
why is mordum g3 pathway sucha BITCH to walk on
stuttering shit
and then grandpa popping up talkin bout some dumb shit
MOVEEEEEEE

Got a 1755 Bard in my skol
AGS execs leaning into AI slop hoping it makes bank

guess he is testing
i hate amazon
They were on sup buildn

“How about you get AI to generate you some bitches”
ai is great as a support tool
ok so where do I get a quick 1m gold to hone scrapper to 1680
what about as an excuse to do even greater staff reductions on a system already failing to meet customer support demands?
@wintry depot
i went from 1560 combat power on my artist to 1610
?
But, that's one of the best drop I could have gotten miss Mokoko.
yes, and when you suffer i will be enjoying it
stink liek shit
how much cp is that
My Second Main is almost full 100 also now 
zz
is this a fookin title?
@wintry depot check general we are not alone 
Stock go up when you do
event boxes now only 3 form chaosdungeons, where do i get the other 2 "special missions" what do they mean?
more chaos dungeon on a diff char
guardian raid
regular raid
thats all it is
do dailies, get boxes
normal dungeons no, only 3
cool gem prices, the more people quit the higher it becomes???
wat
did 15 chaosdungeons got 3 and there is a text now
ok im going back to hell
in the mordum we were 3 that dced
xD
yea something is def up
its only eu or na has same issues?
no issue here
We had it yesterday
Mostly naw folk looked like
But I haven’t heard much today
i see

erm
race is coming
everybody is gearing up
imagine giving 2 shits about a race
Inb4 race cleared under an hour
WTF are those droprates... this event fkng sucks xDß
It’s ok by the time the event ends you’ll have somewhere in the ballpark of
tailoring and metal books in it make me so mad
Cards are in it too....
I haven’t even seen a special box yet 
My rng sucks
i saw 4
2 today
i got uh
truly amazing event indeed
shit idk, it was trash tho
Yeah this event kinda sucks cock
guardian
i've only got the 3k life skill energy pots
And this event ain’t helping
yeah
1k gold
got juicy 2 xp cards...
not even worth the clicks
the pot should at least come with leap essence
Skill issue tbh
Poverty issues
are you kazeros race ready son?

Poverty is also a skill issue
Yeaaa ill be racing for sure
Just hit 4head
the first clearers had like 2.8k
Racing with my 2.6k
3x 1730+
Claims poverty
all different classes too
But how juiced was everyone else
who was the 2.8k
they werent 2.8 in tfm
they were non esther
XD
everyt group was 3k+
I think the average cp was pretty high still
xD
aint no way
Non Esther doesn't mean they lose 1.2k cp
maybe it was the bard
Yagami is 4k non esther

no
Thanks
FUCK YEAH
On its way to 1730 lol

Floor 100 incoming
i died
Floor 21
And then dip angle
Inb4 silver legacy legacy
Lucky
rip
He got the Disrespect
max unlucky one detected
F
ey, another character done with adv honing 
the 100k ember was too much, need to put the brakes on the rng
k
meanwhile fucktards like dboi r spoonfed
he has enough debuffs elsewhere
@high fog do u have a dps for strike nm
rip

aaaaaa

game is fucking with me
@wintry depot
my mains neck xD
have u tried the aram mayhem mode yet
Perfect for DPS main Valk /s
Does anyone know what the official name(s) of the Chaos Dungeon soundtracks are called?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLmbOujQQV0
Particularly this one
Official Lost Ark Soundtrack.
I do not own this music, all rights belong to Smilegate and Amazon Games.
Lost Ark is an MMO that originated in Korea, and recently in 2022 became available in many countries in Europe and the United States. It features a long and wide playing field for exploration, narrative and progression. Wh...
MAYBEEEEEEEE

f

click again
no i wont
Try the Lost Ark Korean Youtube page, there’s some tracks from super early on
mori krima

are they sup stuff on a dps or vice versa?
Broken gear?
nope
Event shop?

Give that back thief
Shout out to my dad’s friend Jordan who made these for me so I can give them to my best friend as a gift.
cute
he was having a hard time with the necklaces and leaf pieces since they were so tiny and fragile so I told him not to worry about the necklaces

This one
1: not green
2: get lucky to get
ah fuck this hurts. worth it tho
Is It? Show the real ring.

I don't know If I'd get that, this is your "Everlasting ring" And It's missing a lot of str and a useless bonus effect 
Geniusboi
its not missing a lot of str
It's pretty low
any ring with weapon power is like 6mil gold
no it isnt
90+ qual is a 1k difference
if market says its cheap then its cheap
diminshing returns. 1k wont make or break. or even give me half a point of CP lol
Check for flat hp / wep flat, I mean, I'm just saying since this is most likely going to be your everlasting ring, might as well spend extra time on searching market 
ive checked. people arent stupid
Look, only 5 mil on market.
1,8 mil 
How get this bike?
I currently have 193,769 weapon power... an extra 960 weapon power is 0.5% increase in WP
for millions of more gold
im an idiot, but not that much of an idiot
How much for flat hp?
max hp secondary doesn't even exist right now
Buy it on the market
a secondary of 6500 max HP would be almost as expensive as high flat WP
Unless that ring is "really low compared to normal market" does not hurt to spend a week or so scouting for higher main/flat hp but your money up too you 
and to answer your question, it'd be 1.5% max HP for millions of more gold. 6500 HP that is
I spent quite a bit of time and snagged a HHM Ear for like 200 
I mean, ye don't buy it if It's in the millions, but sometimes a bobono posts something weird.
earrings are worth nothing for support
yeah ive checked recents and checked everyday. there arent bozos cutting these things with good secondaries at a cheaper price
Sure if you hate your dps
I want all the shield I can get.
you realize an extra 6,500 HP would equate to your shield increasing by 1,430....
88.7k shield vs 90.1k shield...

im better off using that extra gold to continue honing which would give me more HP. cant afford 6mil ring x2, honing and more level 10s
more shield = more shield.

1.4k shield aint gonna do nothing when kazeros TFM one shots
all i care about
1 more ring then im done
Does not want more shields, but spent money on 7% Recovery.
because math....
and it's the only useful line on earring
Math? 
yes. 7% recovery is more valuable then 1,400 extra shield lmao
Preventative Shield > Recovery after the fact.
Nope. Paladin prioritizes recovery on earring over shields
Not for pally where uou perma heal anyways
For others, sure that's true
This is because paladins healing capability in the kit is not that great compared to bard/artist/valk
Maybe a bit less for paladin but in general shield > heal
also paladin's just got another shield so It's not exactly bad bad for them either.
There is no burst healing. It's tick based
The shield on Z is extremely small.
it's almost nothing lol
not even worth mentioning
It's not that trash, even on my lil'lopang Paladin It's almost 30k 
recovery is still better for paladin on earring
I mean, they are both bad if everything in TFM one shots 
Also goodluck on TFM
You whale
u r def whale
Aly is a whale that doesnt spend gold, DB is a whale that spends gold
Excuse me, I'm a 🐬 and I don't play only 1 class 
i find cutting elixirs more fun than doing transcendence, anyone else agree?
gold costs aside
thats y it feels soooo gay
like holy shit
its legit just ragebait
they should have left reset option in elixirs, and transcendence needed some level of choice rather than monopoly. But it is what it is they are unlikely to alter the system further
true


Now roll again

anybody know if the aura potions expire from the blue crystal bundle owo
It's very sad that we'll see this one day for the lost ark
Dead game
no theres a + symbol above the button to enter chaos/kurzan front now where you can apply rested pots/chaos resets
New World was being developed by AGS
Lost Ark they just need an intern to press the “compile” button from Smilegate and use AI for everything else
later in the afternoon/evening it goes back to 15k 
max 9 10k max
buddy
first im not yours buddy 2th please.
if the average is 9k, the max playing now is not 9k during primetime of the day
that logically alone doesnt make any sense
so u are ok with that ? 9k divide 2 4.5k per region ? really u are ok for that ?
it is amazing someone still defending this sht company named sg
it never changes here lol
im not even defending sg
2 things always remains constant
why are ppl always this delusional, you point out their bullshit and instantly youre "defending sg/ags"
people linking steam charts like their life depends on it
and returning players asking "do i need 6 characters to play the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
want to see my playtime ?
after not getting an answer in general chat
do you think im not fckn sad ?
after invest shitton of my time ? for this garbage ?
ill have every right for yapping tho
I think I'll just play lost ark 1-3x a week for now
if you see your time as an investment into a live service game then i dunno what to tell you, coz theres no return on your time and every game dies sooner or later.
mate they even dosnt try to change....
nice lucky box event, day 2 haven't actually gotten a lucky box yet
you probably didnt even figure out by now that this is not even the official lost ark discord where literally no one from the actual company reads your "complains"
the chance is 0.1 or something for the guaranteed quality tap no?
yeah 00.10
i just got here, so idk what i missed, but it sounds like you only enjoy a game if the steam charts says you should enjoy a game, well, have fun with that
not lately mate even try to invite my friend come ill will carry mordum ect
they not even want to..
wich is sad im tryn more then sg to save the game lol
yep it will never change, ppl just strive on being miserable 
lately makin carry runs ect no one even send to join
wich is i can safe to say game is dead
rip my 20k hours with in
if they don't wanna come, thats just how it is
why would you wanna carry dead players anyways
if you think its dead then quit
🙁
👌
I know I'll probably kill Kazeros and get out.
everyone knows you wont
wanna share screen shots after ill manage kill kaz
or vid deleting gems
gonna post it here just wait
🐴
no, i dont particularly care what you do, you just have a highly unhealthy relationship to the game, and probably gaming in general
im playin weekly basis raid to raid
not even login daily : /
and youre still that miserable about it? damn
there is a bunch of solid games incoming towards the end of the years, thats also why some people quit, poe1 new league tmrw, aion2, some new gacha games
they always come back lel
Everyone complaining about dead games. IRL doing halloween
Always gonna be new stuff to move onto. Just make sure it isn’t the slop that replaces the good things.
Fucking Courtroom Party
That game is gonna flop harder than Infinite Crisis
this is the future of NA global gaming
have you seen king of meat they released, it peaked at 250 players or something
And if I had a nickel for every time a MOBA killed a Lord of the Rings MMO, I’d have 2 nickels. Which isn’t much…
? what is infinite crisis?
sounds like a arcade shooter game lol
theres no passion anymore in those lifeless companies
This is what they deserve
I hope they all hemorrhage money and realise their mistakes
all you can hope for is the occassional banger release from some indie dev
but 95% of releases from the big players will be dogshit coz its not about games anymore
DC moba based on “Crisis on Infinite Earths” comics
Lasted 2 weeks on steam
Warner Brothers had them downsize and cull funding/staff from Lord of the Rings Online.
best superhero games were injustice, rivals and ofc the 3 spiderman games
oh wtf forgot abt Arkham
t1 
Now AGS killed their LOTR MMO for that shitty Steampunk MOBA and Snoop game
Easier to make arena games with AI
idk why, but i have a feeling aion2 will do well
MMOs have too many moving parts
not even sure why i think that, its just a feeling
and they need a too big upfront investment
just release the 15th anime tiddy gacha and cash in the big bucks without much investment
this is what global deserves
Survival of Lost Ark at this rate will depend more on Smilegate’s competence than Amazon’s
thats been the case for like 90% of the life cycle
theres very limited things ags can do
Other 10% is Tencent
Yeah ik ik
Both contractually and structurally
only components ags influenced was fucking up pheongate/ignite server etc, rest is on smilegate
playing a song for the booted director 
Lets give them until loa on winter
If that doesnt sound like its gonna change a lot its gh
gg*

its both
there is a contract somewhere in there no one knows the details of
and i don't trust ags to make the sound/logical choice
it wont, smilegate is way too stubborn to do significant changes
Hope dies last
fair

we are in the loa on doomer cycle anyway
since 3 years the month before loa on everyone dooming exponentially more 
i don't think the winter loaon from kr is gonna change shit
the most crutial thing is after dec, when roxx/ags sends out the rough 2026 roadmap
if we actually have a roadmap, then its solid and that contract between ags/smg held up
its fair to assume that during the life span of the west they would have tried SOMETHING if they were allowed to. that contract is probably stingy as hell to not make smilegate look terrible in front of kr audience
feels conflicted, ags have to ask permission from kr to take a piss in this game
meanwhile cn made their lost ark into a gacha city and lit it on fire
don't even need to ask permission
I mean they did buff certain events here on global, no? I think if the lucky box event wasnt as ULTRA SHIT as it is rn people here wouldnt even complain as much about the game
china laws + tencent pull factor
Imagine they made the relic selector drop chance like 5%
yes, essentially every event has been buffed for us, but i mean actual meaningful changes that would have a lasting impact on the gameplay loop
Ah yes
They probably cant do that
Tbh the daily lockout on boxes was people didn’t complain about whales with larger rosters like other events we’ve had
frontier 
only attempt i can remember is jumpstart/ignite server and that probably took a lot of shoe shining from ags to get allowance 
CN right now
adds title FOMO to retain whale bait
and they decide to bring in some1 who alrdy has a horrible reputation..
i hate frontier so bad i hate frontier so bad
x10 is for nm too
probably because its one and done, happen to miss the 1-2 week window and theres no way to attain it anymore. might also be a psychological thing, even tho no one rly cares about titles for gatekeeping purposes anymore at this stage, it still feels bad to see a lot of lobbies named lot/sv when you dont have it/cant get it anymore
that would be my guess
thats the goat title anyway
i dunno what they expect, thats my guess as to why ppl complain about it fairly often
If anything, the only reason abyssal punisher isn't valued is just because it's farmable in nm too

that as well
So there's no "good" way to check if someone knows the raid. And checking frontier titles just take the least effort
So when you're on the losing side of the law, of course you'll make noise
Old players leave, but the ones that remain gatekeep against those who don't have unobtainable titles

So yeah, people are gonna complain
Another problem with new player retention
The raids do but gate 0 is harder isn't it.
yes these are the ones conplaining
is that even possible
Chaos dungeons preset pog
Good im 1500

I really hope they upgrade that kazeros road with leve 7 gems
Oh yeah i only have 3 chars so i will be using that on another char
hopefully DK looks good

this is a long long time away isn't it?
jan/feb for us prob
like 3months or so
did they butcher auto dismantle on tools
friend had issue with it yesterday, so probably
shitters aint getting dismantled anymore
paradise so op that even the shitter alts are out of range for express entry lvl soon 
my lowest one is 1660 if I dont count valkyrie in t3 still
Only this week I started using paradise on alts
I wonder how long it will take for them to get 10m power
the wont get 10m power, season about to end
New season then?
is the ark lucky box only 5 max per day across roster?
yep
What the hell are these prices
level 8 gem around 600k, level 9 gem around 1.3m and level 10 gem ranging from 3.x to 5.x

gems are expensive so people can reverse RMT them if the game goes tits up
be the supplier, not the customer
oh well, generating gems is an issue atp
wdym just have x30 1700s running chaos
which classes look good with the halloween footprints besides specialists hmmm
the class with the best feet
so we need a feet inspector
i feel like the last one we got for free the symbol one was so obvious 2 put the yellow one onto valk
this one feels like specialist coz kid + candy or SE with purp one but less obvious
every damn time
@bitter inlet read it again
yup
not getting chisle is alrdy above avg luck
It's x2 into chisel all the way up to +19 and then most of a Galatur down the toilet
really is annoying to gatekeep power behind time gated content
Worse bit is how fucking slow they are at lowering that time constraint
still sucks ass doing karma
Even KR is pissed about Elixirs + Trans + Karma and now Ark Grid on top
Act 2 should have had Arcturus Touch for KR back in June.
It's insane they haven't got it yet
Stupid mentality of preventing Alt Rosters
🤓 👆 "But we have to keep inflation under control with those systems"
BRO YOUR ASS 6x LIMIT IS WHY PEOPLE MAKE ALT ROSTERS
it is a makes it really weird
i used like 50k gold to the last node of rank 4, only to need another brel, then next week another brel to get rank 6. fuck this.
they know especially Leap of Ark Passive is the most important, why tf is it rank 6?
i love their excuse about gold inflation when relic books and gems could just be dropped via tokens from completing raids bypassing the current market sit entirely lmfao
"wE dOnT wAnT pEoPle MaKiNg ChAraCtErS tO fArM GoLd oN!"
-> Makes gold worthless by tanking the fucking game
like let whales whale but give tokens to f2p so u can exchange for those instead
they did and couldnt be fucked to upkeep it correctly so there was a point where you could farm a token from everything from North Vern -> Feiton
Evolution unlocks everything at rank 1, Enlightement can stay at rank 5, but Leap has to be rank 6

i swear ppl at sg's brain only works linearly
the way they approach each problem
its always adding to current system via bandaids
i only need to hone my pieces to 1710 to do kazeros nm, good enough for me, currently 1706.16
dps req for nm kaz looks pretty low so hopefully gatekeep isnt astronomical
treadmill business model
it will be because the players are why we cant have nice things
cant wait 2 play spin2winBrutal slayer
what are ur bets














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