#lost-ark-discussions

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fresh flint
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super chill

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i love it

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A whale has been born

neon cedar
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A new whale

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šŸ³

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+1 year of service

fresh flint
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his cp is quite low for 1740

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Well, maybe not

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Hes full 8s and his books need work

neon cedar
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Its not all that bad for the average joe who honed a lot

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But the avreage joe doesnt hone an side wep

fresh flint
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yeahhhh

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it might be for show tbh

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honing a side but not finishing books and such?

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he just wanted the popup

neon cedar
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Ethical f2p side owner maybe. Level 3 will pop next year

fresh flint
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ill be here to witness it

mystic basin
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Chris Ester weapon soon NOWAY

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Man I should have done the strike raid and progged it on release but i discovered webtoons and lost interest

final gale
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who knew heavenly orbs r worth so much

mystic basin
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What's that

neon cedar
neon cedar
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& selling that amount for that price just screams sus

mystic basin
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Oh wait thats mister rice farmer

final gale
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?

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ive done 7 raids this reset

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no rice farming has happened

mystic basin
fresh flint
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he means 7 busses

final gale
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yea no.

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i dont bus

fresh flint
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lmao

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you are so full of shit

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you said you bus yourself

final gale
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???

fresh flint
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??????

final gale
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where in the log am i bussing myself

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i keep all raids i do publi

vagrant cradle
fresh flint
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are you purposefully dumb

final gale
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no but uwuowo doesnt lie

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r u trollin

turbid oriole
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What you gonna do about it

neon cedar
turbid oriole
neon cedar
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Barely a week ago

final gale
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yea but logs dont prove wut i said

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i ended up doing like 1 bus that week

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and pugged th rest

neon cedar
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If thats what you want us to believe

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anyway

final gale
steady pumice
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is the server merge on the 10/15 or 10/21?

neon cedar
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We dont know yet

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Wont be the 21st because it happens a week before whenever the monthly update is

steady pumice
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if it is a week before update wouldn't the only date left is 15?

neon cedar
vagrant cradle
fresh flint
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i just realized what that ss was

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bro is out here botting

turbid oriole
slender goblet
fresh flint
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not botting btw guys xddBedge

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vagrant cradle
slender goblet
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what u mean chris

fresh flint
slender goblet
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Wtf thatā€™s giga sus

fresh flint
vagrant cradle
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brother out here botting elgacia for procyon's breaths

fresh flint
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thats ok

mystic basin
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Ok the strike raid is actually easy

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I even got cruel

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Now mordum

neon cedar
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Nice job

mystic basin
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I dont think ill be able to do it on alts tho

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All my alts are like 1100 cp

neon cedar
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A learning party should be fine. A regular run it'll be hard but still possible

fresh flint
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idk why i did raids on my reaper tonight

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i was going in order...skipped my frickin summoners last one

mystic basin
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You should like

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Imposter me into a mordum

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Ngl

fresh flint
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Nop I go bed

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Plus Iā€™d have to do that on my main

mystic basin
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Oh well back to prog jail

livid tree
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If I upgrade gem lv 10 t3 to t4 , what level gem will it be

mystic basin
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8

livid tree
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so 40% dmg will turn into 36% ?

mystic basin
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Ye

livid tree
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gotcha ty

wanton root
obtuse oyster
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it's real

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neon cedar
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Holy grats

vagrant cradle
final gale
ember crag
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Got my full acc set

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Seems okayish

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Saturday morning 8 am really isn't the time to raid is it?

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Is there anyway to do reset weekly una task timer?

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Like some type of brew or anything like that

neon cedar
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Timer?

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You do 3 weekly Una's and that's all. You can abandon an unfinished one and accept another

tulip charm
ember crag
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it's a daily anyway

wanton root
ember crag
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On Behe

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Peaked at 126m dps

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I guess it's not valid tho since I'm overgeared for the raid and I have 4 supps instead of 2

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Average for what CP?

slender goblet
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LETS GOOOO

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adren for 120k

ember crag
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I'm at 1.2k Cp...

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Tf am I doing wrong

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Well

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I'm not only performing bad there

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Every other raid I'm way under the check

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Ik I get knocked down 2 or 3 times

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I can't imagne 4 enlight pots doing this big of a diffrence

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Slayer

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can't hit him more than I am

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40m

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Brel

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g2

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60m in g1

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I've been told the issues are getting knocked down thus not being able to attack.

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and missing enlight pots

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also leap I think not sure

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I'm playing 25 swift

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I don't really see how much more uptime I can get

vagrant cradle
final gale
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im so bigback

ember crag
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Ik trixion has the testing place

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but what you want me to do there?

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Scarecrow as boss?

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or named

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Why not keep my normal engravings?

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?

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How

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So just take out some?

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and replace with them?

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Am there

vagrant cradle
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just add them when in trixion

ember crag
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Ah

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Yeah and those two I max out

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everything else stays?

bitter inlet
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Now spank it

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And record your damage

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Do like a 2 min test

ember crag
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So

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I had like 10 sec max where I didn't have any skills up

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If even 5 sec

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So the dps is fine

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It's just skill issue

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To not get hit

vagrant cradle
ember crag
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and be able to hit boss

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great

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Hmm

bitter inlet
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Slap your keyboard

ember crag
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I didn't either

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Cause it bloats it

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That was from my 40m brel g2

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Also

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very bad back attack ratio on brel

bitter inlet
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Oof thatā€™s really bad

ember crag
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Well she thinks she a ballerina

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if I try to stay on back

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imma just attack every 2 mins

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I kinda expected it just being a skill issue

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Huh

bitter inlet
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At least you can fix skill issues in a couple days

ember crag
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I mean I know her attacks

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it just missing repitition

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but If I can only do the raid every week once

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it's gonna take a while

vagrant cradle
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yeah it takes time

bitter inlet
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Hop into a quick league game

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And imagine yourself as a slayer

ember crag
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Who would I play

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I see

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so he a ballerina too

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Just positioning Ik

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yeah

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Should I be playing punishing draw?

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I play mountain cleave rn

vagrant cradle
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it's an option if you want another counter I suppose

ember crag
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2 wild stomp enough tbh

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I peaked at 53m during brel

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in first min

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then it just stayed low

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It just say

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if big dmg skill up use

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no real rotation

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Only thing is

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don't use volcanic in exhaust state

vagrant cradle
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im a pro at farming incap

ember crag
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I don't think it has

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What the thing called

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the one you keep posting

lethal reef
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I sold the neck for 1.7mil

severe bone
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Is using vpn to play the game is illegal?

lethal reef
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nop

severe bone
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Im still not using it,but in a month ill be back to asian which mean i need vpn to enter the game

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Do you know which the best vpn that i should use?

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Im scared that my account get ban after using vpn lol,cuz they forbidden use any 3rd party apps

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So dps meter also include right

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But there is a lot of people using external dps meter to blame another people that have low demage,so that one is not allowed right

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If i report them do they get banned?

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So theyll get ban for sure if i report them when theyre toxic right

bitter inlet
vagrant cradle
bitter inlet
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Idk about for sure

severe bone
bitter inlet
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AGS will just give them a stern warning

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I dont really see people call out low dps from my experience

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Unless ig youre a super terrorist

slender goblet
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ill only say something if they start yapping

slender sky
vagrant cradle
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exactly as it looks

mystic basin
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Cleared mordum letsFuckinGo

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But I probably still need to practice g3

bitter inlet
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Mordum is so chill and enjoyable once you learn the patterns

vagrant cradle
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still wish g1 and 2 didn't exist

lunar stag
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Nah gate 2 is fun

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Gate 1 is just why

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I actually would have preferred if they made it so gate 1 didn't exist or replaced it with another new guardian, we don't fight Echidna in act 4 instead we fight the abyss lord first and then Thaemine

sharp rock
slender goblet
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mordum makes me fall asleep

wanton root
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mordums fun tbh

slender goblet
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holy shit i just met the most gigachad pug

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he decided to not play because his supp was doing 25% uptime

safe lark
slender goblet
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he got the re and left

gilded ember
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do we know which ilvl the next express in nov will be?

slender goblet
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he swapped to supp

vagrant cradle
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Understandable though

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Playing with bad supports ducking sucks

slender goblet
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no fr tho

vagrant cradle
slender goblet
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i wasn't even mad

wind dagger
ember crag
sand marsh
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Thoughts on the new skins?

wind dagger
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Thoughts on Deathboi asking about 'Thoughts on the new skins' ?

sand marsh
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wtf

bleak zinc
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totally forgot to check f4 shop since weekly reset KEKL

tulip charm
gilded ember
swift magnet
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šŸ˜­

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ember crag
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I hate skolakia with a passion

wind dagger
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Guys, y'all ignoring @sand marsh request for thoughts

wind dagger
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but new guardian is super chill

ember crag
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Nah the fucker is just dumb

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like

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the just guard attack where he jumps

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is absolute bullshit

wind dagger
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learn timing

ember crag
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The fucker has 2 diffrent timings

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for the same stupid attack

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sometimes he act like your average souls boss

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wind up of 2 work days

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other times he outspeeds light itself

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And the visible cue is that his left eyebrow is twitching

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Dumb design

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Nom

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At least he gave something useful

wise pasture
worldly hawk
swift magnet
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šŸ’€

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cosmic rivet
sand marsh
cosmic rivet
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also, any person with leaf have brel NM or agir HM? (also lower raids farm without gold .. im down bad for tokens)

cosmic rivet
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instead of honing?

sand marsh
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why would i hone. at 1690 i lose mokoko status lol

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combat power > ilvl

safe lark
sand marsh
wind dagger
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sell

midnight drift
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roll KEKW

ember crag
livid tree
sand marsh
ember crag
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that fast?

sand marsh
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yea

ember crag
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How high are the odds for big pot on field boss?

sand marsh
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pretty big i think

ember crag
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ah okay

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And for tome

sand marsh
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yea got that too

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was ez

ember crag
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no items and no rep should be 80% no?

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Just food and everything else

sand marsh
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nah i bought collectibles off market

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did like 3 cooking

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and the other stuff

ember crag
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so rapport too

sand marsh
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only mystic

livid tree
ember crag
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I wasn't able to do field boss till now

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always something happening

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should be able to do tmr

livid tree
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i still remember the moment got 7k by doing field boss somehow

ember crag
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7k?

livid tree
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7k gold

ember crag
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Ah

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Nice

livid tree
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usually u only get 1 or 5 gold only

wise pasture
safe lark
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always lucky

wind dagger
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you too

ember crag
wise pasture
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it is about the average chance for suchstuff in lost ark

worldly hawk
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like the bloodclaw and enligh. potion

upper lagoon
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when are we getting those new event with ton of shard? i ran out of shard on main :/

errant fable
worldly hawk
tulip charm
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how is your streamer rng so strong

errant fable
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oh second one

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soft niche
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Matt big streamer rng too! 500k bar drop
and a cd, kbw, grudge, and adr book from 8 book flame key drop smileW

errant fable
soft niche
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do azena embers have a set pool or is it based on the ilvl you run?

wise pasture
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set pool

swift tree
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you can get them to drop running Deskaluda and give Relic Books

wise pasture
swift tree
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more accurate for Lost Ark ngl

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meanwhile regular embers

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soft niche
# swift tree set pool

mm i see ty, are they heavily worth investing in? it seems like it, are the embers as rare as normal ones?

safe lark
ember crag
safe lark
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they are rare

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but high chance u get 10k instead of silver

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or card xp

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but if u have it like on 1 char

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u may see it once per month xdd

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unless youre @swift magnet

swift magnet
fresh flint
tulip charm
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then again you see some people shit out 50>200k embers every week

swift tree
swift magnet
safe lark
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always lucky

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austrian luck

wise pasture
worldly hawk
safe lark
wind dagger
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enough with the heli cat

safe lark
uncut dirge
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so what's the chance that next week AGS goes

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we extended frog for another 6 weeks

quaint wasp
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books are going back up already

uncut dirge
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some of them are higher than ever before, like KBW

errant fable
safe lark
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decent and cheap

errant fable
fresh flint
tulip charm
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damn wtf, the brel mvp background is worth shit now

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someone bought it for 10k, i paid 30k back then

crimson light
safe lark
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zheng is discovering the LA world

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every day

ember crag
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I prob shouldn't be feeding my gamb addiction

crimson light
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? xD

uncut dirge
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remember that whole bussing thing where people would disconnect before the end of the raid

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to then get a ticket to bus again

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and how AGS in response removed tickets from being given out in a situation where raid gets cleared?

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why didn't they just do it based on some criteria, so that newbies - the people who gets screwed over the most by losing the ticket - still get their ticket back?

ember crag
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What kinda title is this?

steady crater
ember crag
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From where tho

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titles doesn't show it for me

steady crater
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from pvp

ember crag
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Oh

worldly hawk
low nebula
ember crag
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Tf you mean not a turtle

worldly hawk
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that's a tortoise WeirdgaP

ember crag
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If you squint with your eyes the hand look like big fins

worldly hawk
ember crag
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The negotiator.

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worldly hawk
burnt tree
slender sky
ember crag
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What dps value do you guys look at?

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The peak you reached?

slender sky
wise pasture
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generally you look at dps at the end of raid

ember crag
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Hmm

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Cause I can hit 120m dps over 1 min sometimes

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but at the end

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it's at 50mil

primal pond
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playing pvp, why is sorc allowed to just stun everyone for 10 seconds

ember crag
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Cause why not

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it's punishment for playing pvp I gues

primal pond
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i just want to get the pvp achievements

safe lark
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i can hit 20b in 15 seconds but it will go down to 350 as well

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all depends from fight

ember crag
safe lark
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and team.

primal pond
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sorry its aeromancer and sorc together

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just juggling me

safe lark
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and class

ember crag
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If I post this

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it seems bad

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But when I look at time line it seems fine.

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safe lark
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seen worse

ember crag
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Where do I see what dps check is?

quaint wasp
faint grove
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50m dps is terrible

ember crag
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I'm still learning

quaint wasp
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this is aegir hm right

ember crag
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ye

quaint wasp
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what ilvl/combat score are you

ember crag
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1689

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1200

obtuse oyster
ember crag
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So I barely made the individual dps check

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wow

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I did get bodied tbf

quaint wasp
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oooof that's really low then

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my 1660 alt roster does like 70 mil

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and they're giga rat

faint grove
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he doesnt know fight, prolly getting smacked around a lot

quaint wasp
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I don't even have my sp or runes shruge

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pure event gear

safe lark
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on slayer you need good uptime

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to be back in form

ember crag
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Yeah I know mechs no prob

quaint wasp
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u need uptime

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need to hit the boss

ember crag
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but normal attack patterns have me stunned or in air like half the fight

quaint wasp
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not look at it

ember crag
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I'm trying

safe lark
ember crag
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Yes chef.

quaint wasp
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record vods of your gameplay

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study vods of good players

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playing the same spec

ember crag
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I have the uptime

quaint wasp
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see what they're doing that you aren't

ember crag
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if I'm not on the floor

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That's it

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if I'm up

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everything is used

quaint wasp
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shruge if you have the uptime you aren't doing just 50 mil trust me

ember crag
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That's like the 3rd time I mentioned being knocked down alot

quaint wasp
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do you even know your rotations and priorities in a fight

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that and learn the patterns

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aegir doesn't even have complex patterns

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does slayer have many push immune skills?

faint grove
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just takes a little while before all basic patterns become muscle memory

ember crag
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my ult

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nothing else

quaint wasp
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and the diff between below avg and good players are massive

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same with the diff between good players and great ones

ember crag
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It's my first type of game like this and I barley have 100 hours in actual content

quaint wasp
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raid more mokokoHeart

wise pasture
ember crag
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I would if this game would allow it

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I see

fresh flint
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It would be useful to see incap time

ember crag
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Tell me the name of the other raid meter and I'll get it

fresh flint
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But ig meter is so caca

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Dms

slender sky
fresh flint
quaint wasp
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start playing hell

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also helps you get into lobbies

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Comfy once you grind out a respectable title like phantom monarch

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well even something like mayhem shadow is prob better than nothing

ember crag
quaint wasp
ember crag
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I get into raid no prob

quaint wasp
ember crag
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It's not that I don't know how my char moves etc

quaint wasp
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and you learn to push uptime

ember crag
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Slayer is not difficult to keep uptime

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You could literally put a stone over the key

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and be good

quaint wasp
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you're only limited to t3 content but mastering it allows you to master a good chunk of your class

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even if there are changes in t4

ember crag
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Are we talking about the same hell??

quaint wasp
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learning to dodge patterns while keeping uptime is hard shruge

slender sky
quaint wasp
ember crag
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atrocious bad?

quaint wasp
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50 mil dps with a 1689

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in Aegir

ember crag
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40 mil on brel

quaint wasp
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this is why I gatekeep low roster level mokokoSus

ember crag
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Great for you then

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So

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you don't like low rost player like most do

quaint wasp
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just try hell mode get a title

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if I see a low roster level with MS or PM

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I would take them

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atm you probably don't have a good title

ember crag
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Do you listen to what other people write?

quaint wasp
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I told you how to fix your issue and you're just ignoring it

ember crag
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My issue is that I don't have a title?

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according to you

quaint wasp
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and you don't have enough raid experience

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which is why hell would fix both of that

ember crag
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I have 0 problems getting into raids atm

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I can do all my raids every week

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after applying twice

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I can go and do valtan for you

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I need the experience with the boss I'm bad at

quaint wasp
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yeah because you're 20 to 30 ilvls above content

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go do helltan then

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lmk when you clear alive

slender sky
ember crag
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Not that lemme try for the 3rd time

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My problem is not that I don't have enough raid experience in general. I could clear on ilvl legion raids

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no prob.

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My prob lies with not having enough pattern experience with brel and aegir

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cause I can't do them often.

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Or haven't done them as often as legion raids.

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Nothing else

obtuse oyster
ember crag
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Yeah

obtuse oyster
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lets you get the experience quicker since you're running it multipletimes a week

ember crag
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yeah

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The moment I finish leap on this char I can prob start getting valk up

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and another char

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maybe a breaker

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or glavier

wise pasture
crimson light
obtuse oyster
wind dagger
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Lucky bastard

slender goblet
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I finish my adren this week

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Now next week I can buy all my alts high/lows

faint grove
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still waiting for books to become cheap COPIUM

slender goblet
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they are cheaper than ever Weirdga

faint grove
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indeed still not cheap tho

slender goblet
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in fact they will probably go back up once strike and frog disappear soon

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They arent gonna get any lower

junior fern
# ember crag my ult

Actually, although she doesnā€™t have a lot of push immunity, Slayer has a lot of paralysis immunity which is pretty good in Aegir

faint grove
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its aight been spending my weekly gold on tapping more 1720s

ember crag
obtuse oyster
faint grove
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should get my 4th 1720 by next week

ember crag
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Just need to do more aegir and brel that's it honestly

junior fern
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Like take off all engravings, cards, and accessories, and just keep fighting him until the time runs out

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just to see his patterns more

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since youā€™ve said youā€™re comfy with the mechs, just not the patterns

faint grove
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are solomode patterns even identical? because they aint in other solomodes

junior fern
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The patterns are the same

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They just nerf or remove some mechs

ember crag
junior fern
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But itā€™s the only real way to practice in this game unfortunately

ember crag
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Seems like my safest bet esp with only one char in that range

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Meh it's fine

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a bit problematic for brel

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but that will be solved in few months

junior fern
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I mean in a few months youā€™ll prob have enough of Brel down to not need it in solo mode

ember crag
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yeah fair point

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but for aegir it's great

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I have more trouble with aegir anyway

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brel is just a gamble for 145 mec

junior fern
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huh

ember crag
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Not me

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Ik the mec

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but hoping that the person infront of me does too

junior fern
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But the 145 mech isnā€™t why youā€™re struggling tho

ember crag
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Yeah

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but still a gamble

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Half of my runs have been quit by other peps cause someone fucked up 145 and they DC or insisted on quitting.

quaint wasp
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it's possible they saw your dps and just wanted an excuse to quit ;x

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you ever considered joining a prog lobby?

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instead of joining hw/reclears

junior fern
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Honestly, he shouldnā€™t join prog lobbies. He should join learning lobbies because those have a teacher that will call out patterns

ember crag
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Brother. I reach minimal dps even if it's only by a small diffrence. I know the mechs without problems

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I do my part

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I just can't carry the dps of anybody else.

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If I feel like I can't do at least the mecs I join a prog lobby

quaint wasp
ember crag
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Which I said when I originally made that run

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I get around 53 to 58 mil normally

quaint wasp
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prog lobbies don't have people to carry him so he will get in a lot of experience

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learning lobbies still have carries

junior fern
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Any good teacher worth their salt will hold DPS

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I like Oguā€™s learning lobbies because he does a good job calling out patterns

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Which is what Hans needs

neon cedar
ember crag
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I thought my goal would be to see patterns myself

quaint wasp
neon cedar
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Shot calling can be really helpful

junior fern
ember crag
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Hmm

final sable
ember crag
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ye

quaint wasp
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ig I could be wrong

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40m seems so insanely low

ember crag
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It is

quaint wasp
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you can have 1640s pulling that

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easily

ember crag
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I'm aware of that

final sable
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I think it was like 38 or something but its tight

neon cedar
quaint wasp
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and nm brel is 1670

junior fern
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When people say min clear for a raid like Brel itā€™s like so unrealistic though. If you really run the timer to berserk your lobby also has infinitely more chances of just straight up dying out

queen grail
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I was at the Cabin and not home. hm

junior fern
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if your entire lobby is really doing 40mill youā€™re probably not clearing unless itā€™s 8 vets intentionally min clearing

final sable
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Yea if people die it becomes unclearable

ember crag
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@junior fern @neon cedar any of you two have time later to look over my brel once?

neon cedar
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If youve got it recorded sure

gilded star
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LOA devs have 0 consideration of visual clutter? Why do we have to get flashbanged and blinded casting SR?

junior fern
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Iā€™m in the office today so probably not me

turbid oriole
ember crag
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But discord won't allow sending big files

junior fern
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upload to YT unlisted

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then send him the link

ember crag
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thx

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will do then

queen grail
ember crag
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That fine for you flow?

neon cedar
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Yea^ you can do that. Send the link along with a pic of your in game meter info and I'll check it out

final sable
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U can also post logs and compare cpm

ember crag
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I have the good stuff now will send pic of that too

neon cedar
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Yea, I was gonna compare the logs to my slayer logs from last week

ember crag
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Logs are what? just dps meter picture?

final sable
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Do u use the unofficial logs

quaint wasp
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no

final sable
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?

quaint wasp
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actual logs

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with bible

celest tiger
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šŸ‘€

quaint wasp
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so we can look at cpm and stuff

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and cdr%

neon cedar
ember crag
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I can send both

neon cedar
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Sure. I dont use bible so Idk it in depth beyond picstures of damage

ember crag
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bible?

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Ah

final sable
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The original dps meter

neon cedar
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3rd party meter

ember crag
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yeah

junior fern
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Tbh I commend Hans, at least heā€™s actively trying to get better. The new meters are lowkey useless for newer players because they donā€™t actually know how theyā€™re doing comparatively

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How are new players supposed to know 40mill is bad lol

quaint wasp
ember crag
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By having other peps scream at you

neon cedar
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By doing stuff like this

quaint wasp
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all praise mathi

junior fern
formal frost
junior fern
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But not everyone is gonna be on Discord or have the foresight to ask

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Some might think 40 million is a big number

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canā€™t possibly be doing bad

final sable
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On my absolute rat destro i did 50m

quaint wasp
ember crag
final sable
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On first clear

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But after some minor upgrades and learning to play destro better its like 100m range

outer dirge
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remember guys

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getting fisted by amazon is faster than reloading your condom to prevent future generations

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āœŠ

final sable
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Unlucky

quaint wasp
junior fern
outer dirge
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worst part it was 99.99 at the end

final sable
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I hit on the just before pity tap

outer dirge
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so i had to tap 1 more time.

quaint wasp
outer dirge
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:nice

ember crag
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NM

formal frost
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i got flamed for doing less than azena once, it was like my second week doing a brel on a different character and i died to some bullshit twice in g1

quaint wasp
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why haven't you done it yet

ember crag
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So

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I have absolute troubles with brel and aegir

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and your idea is to add another read to learn?

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Do you listen to what you say sometimes?

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Like tf

final sable
#

Pay attention to the attack patterns

neon cedar
junior fern
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I get your point Hans but itā€™s probably better to learn Aegir on your own time (solo mode) for future characters and start learning Mordum now

ember crag
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I won't get into mordum tho will I?

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I mean I have terrible alt lvl

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my enlightment is at bare minimum with karma

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Leap isn't even done yet

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and absolute no title

final sable
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Get to horizontaling

quaint wasp
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use a learning party

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or a streamer party

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or get a title via hell like I said

final sable
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P
L.

junior fern
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Are you NAE? I can teach you NM

ember crag
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And I'm not racing anybode

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EU

junior fern
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ah

ember crag
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But it's fine

neon cedar
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In terms of combat power and stuff alone, youre fine to get into mordum. Maybe some gatekeeping because of no title

ember crag
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I'm not racing anyone tho at least not that I'm aware of

neon cedar
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Where are you missing enlight points from? the potions?

ember crag
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Yeah

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all of them

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steadily working towards them

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but it's gonna take at least 2 more weeks

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with just the una task one

neon cedar
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Ahhh, yea. I read 97 but 87 is def hurting you

ember crag
#

97?

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Enlight points?

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yeah

neon cedar
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I just misread it

image.png
ember crag
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and like I said

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If I start 1 month later or earlier

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with mordum

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doesn't make a real big diffrence

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Rather take my time with these 2 raids now

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And skill wise I've never been a good player

uncut dirge
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strike raid normals so far: 20k, 20k, 30k, 30k, 10k, 10k, 30k, 30k, 10k, 15k, 20k

worldly hawk
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so you're up 5k

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xD

uncut dirge
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i guess

ember crag
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Why is there no hell mode for valkan and thaemine btw?

neon cedar
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There is a hell Valtan

wintry depot
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Wtf is valkan

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And because they gave up on hell modes

ember crag
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Uhm

neon cedar
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They stoppedmaking hell modes by the time they got to thaemine

ember crag
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the ugly dude

wintry depot
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Most people arent interested in them

ember crag
#

akkan

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mb

neon cedar
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Hell mode sucks so they stopped at Brel

quaint wasp
neon cedar
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Its a lot of work to balance and develop new mechs for a raid when almost no one will do it

quaint wasp
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not worth making content for the 1% of players

neon cedar
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They instead did event raids like Extreme Valtan & Extreme Thaemine

ember crag
#

Which were them in constant berserk state?

neon cedar
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Nah, Extreme Valtan was basically Hell Valtan but it wasnt equalised like Hell is. You had the extra mechs and it was scaled to ilvl.
Extreme Thae is just G4 thaemine with some minor alterations to mechs to innclude stuff like just guards

stark sky
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Extreme valtan was a copy and paste of hell valtan with inverted stats (low damage and high HP)

ember crag
#

Ah

quaint wasp
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hell is basically like doing the HM raids on ilvl ngl

ember crag
#

Wait so hell mode has lower hp than HM?

quaint wasp
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you didn't get to experience valtan at 1445, vykas at 1460

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etc

wintry depot
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no its way more

uncut dirge
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because it turned out hell modes didn't encourage people to swipe hard enough

ember crag
neon cedar
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TFM is a completely seperate thing

wintry depot
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hell modes are way harder than hardmode on ilvl on release

stark sky
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Hell mode comparatively to extreme valtan was high damage lower hp

quaint wasp
ember crag
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Before they changed them yes.

uncut dirge
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im pretty sure they specifically mentioned that going forward

stark sky
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Extreme thaemine was made to let people experience g4 while making it more casual friendly

uncut dirge
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they were not going to do hell modes and will do TFM instead

wintry depot
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no, it was extreme versions

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not tfm

stark sky
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One big reason for that was because Korea's g4 clear rate was terrible

uncut dirge
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err, no?

wintry depot
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yes

uncut dirge
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because the only extreme version at that time we had ever had was a raid that already had a hell mode

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so it would make no sense for them to say that

quaint wasp
wintry depot
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they made extreme like hell

ember crag
#

Ik

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Thats why I don't wanna do them rn

neon cedar
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Yes. They just said they were looking at having a challenge mode thats more difficult/unnerfed. But its not a direct replacement of hell

ember crag
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No reason to do so

neon cedar
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They just stopped with hell

quaint wasp
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its practice

safe lark
uncut dirge
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yes, to replace it with TFM

quaint wasp
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you can raid hell as much as you want

ember crag
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For the wrong raid.

quaint wasp
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which was your issue of not doing enough raids

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it doesn't really matter ngl

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if you understand your class well enough to clear hell

ember crag
#

I have trouble with driving a manual

quaint wasp
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even if its t3

ember crag
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lemme go drive 1000 hours of automatic

quaint wasp
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you'll probably see at least a 30% dmg increase in Aegir/brel

uncut dirge
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imo hell mode is not that fun

quaint wasp
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if you can drive manual you can drive automatic

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lol

uncut dirge
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because it emphasizes the whole "if everything didn't go right, you restart" mentality

ember crag
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I'm actually talking to a brick wall am I not?

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I can't explain it otherwise

quaint wasp
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it literally solves your issues but it takes effort

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to get better

wintry depot
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hell mode isnt fun because only a few classes were working there

safe lark
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just say u love hell mode

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and he will stop

ember crag
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No I won't

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cause it's not true

safe lark
ember crag
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and he can ride hell mode as much as he wants.

neon cedar
ember crag
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I've never played them

neon cedar
#

we love lost ark

uncut dirge
#

this skill makes doing valk chaos worthwhile

image.png
ember crag
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We do

safe lark
quaint wasp
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ik paradise is horrible

uncut dirge
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oh no, it's fine

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chaos in general is just boring

quaint wasp
#

but chaos too?

uncut dirge
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nono valk chaos is great

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not the absolute best, but definitely up there

quaint wasp
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ye I was like pally chaos is great

uncut dirge
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but i just find chaos in general boring

quaint wasp
#

surely valk can't be that bad

uncut dirge
#

valk is better

quaint wasp
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oh ofc chaos is boring

uncut dirge
#

valk is like slayer kind of

quaint wasp
#

play Aero

uncut dirge
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she actually has two abilities that reset on hits/kills

quaint wasp
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do kurzan on 2nd monitor almost full afk

ember crag
uncut dirge
#

but i think they're slightly smaller area and somehow don't feel as smooth as slayer does

stark sky
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I'm not gonna lie

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you should just find your cpm somehow and post it

uncut dirge
quaint wasp
uncut dirge
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put a cdr gem on it and spec into all the cdr

stark sky
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That will actually show you whether or not your uptime is fine

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(it likely isn't)

uncut dirge
#

and that skill will 1 shot everything except the bosses and should reset every time

stark sky
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No new players uptime is good

uncut dirge
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and the times it doesn't, you requiem storm instead

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which works somewhat similarly

ember crag
junior fern
ember crag
quaint wasp
ember crag
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cause I've driven automatic before

quaint wasp
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I've never seen a good hell player struggle with aegir or any normal raid

ember crag
#

driving more automatic ain't solving the stick issue

uncut dirge
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are hell modes as difficult as hell keys?

junior fern
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I promise you if youā€™re doing 40mill in Aegir youā€™re not doing Valtan on ilevel as flawlessly as you think you would

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And Iā€™m really not trying to be rude or shade you

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Thatā€™s just the truth of the matter

ember crag
#

I'm not saying I can't do valtan flawless

junior fern
#

Youā€™re probably not comfy with your super armors

ember crag
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I'd say I perform 4 times worse

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But my biggest problem rn is trying to understand and react what pattern aegir or brel uses

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Going and learning another raid

uncut dirge
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it'll come with time

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and sleep

ember crag
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isn't gonna help me see aegir pattern

junior fern
#

Youā€™re not understanding that by learning other raids it also helps hone your brain/hands for Aegir and Brel

quaint wasp
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^

junior fern
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Valtan is a REALLY good raid to learn because it teaches you a lot

quaint wasp
#

^

ember crag
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If I see the pattern

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I can react to it

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np

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but not seeing the pattern

neon cedar
#

Okay guys, its been an hour of criticizing Hans skill. He knows it needs work so can me move on please. Its gone from constructive to just nothing

ember crag
#

It's fine for me

junior fern
#

I mean, I donā€™t think iā€™m being unconstructive here. Iā€™m advising him to learn the fundamentals through a raid like Valtan as itā€™ll help him in all future raids

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Not just Aegir himself

quaint wasp
#

there's a reason players like Powdersnow could play Kazeros like its their 50th clear by day 2

junior fern
#

ā€œabusingā€ push immune is infinitely helpful in Mordum too

neon cedar
ember crag
#

What fundamentals do you mean?

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Like that I don't understand

junior fern
safe lark
ember crag
#

Hmm

junior fern
#

Slayer has so many para immune, itā€™s really useful in Aegir

quaint wasp
#

rotation, priority, superarmors, even things as basic as knowing damage timings

junior fern
#

he has a lot of attacks that knock you back (but not onto the floor)

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your para immune straight up ignores those pushes

ember crag
#

But the para imun only active when in skill animation

stark sky
#

Uh...

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That's the point

ember crag
#

yeah but then it comes back to learning aegirs pattern

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what does it help me if I know valtans patterns

quaint wasp
#

it makes your comfortable with your toolkit

ember crag
#

and when to use my skill so it the right timing

junior fern
#

Getting comfortable with your skills and their timing

quaint wasp
#

then you can apply it to different raids and patterns

junior fern
#

helps

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and Heā€™ll Valtan is something you can repeat infinitely many times to do that

ember crag
#

But that just adds to my things to learn

junior fern
#

I guess you can also do that with Aegir solo like I said earlier

ember crag
#

cause then I have to start over with learning a 3rd raid

stark sky
#

You can learn in solo aegir

ember crag
#

I understand the good you guys mean

stark sky
#

His patterns are near identical

ember crag
#

from all of you even rankedspeedruner

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but

stark sky
#

Regardless, like I said just go find your cpm

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And post it Weirdga

ember crag
#

CPM?

stark sky
#

Casts per minute

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It is not available in in game meter

ember crag
#

So 3rd party

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which I installed 2h ago

stark sky
#

you said it not me

ember crag
#

I'll be doing brel later

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with meter