lost-ark-discussions

[lone rampart]

the name is something

[brittle hawk]

well only 3 classes use it right

and 4 specs

[burnt tree]

a dumbass whose blocked by like 90% of EUC, hes toxic, victim actor, was resetting world boss on purpose but stopped after they made it so world boss wont reset HP anymore etc

[tulip charm]

Someone that played the game at very strange hours and complaining dead game all the time

[errant fable]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[burnt tree]

lol he was playing prime time too

[quiet flower]

Damn, I got denied a Normal Mordum run

[burnt tree]

used to see him at elnead etc

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/good-news-thumbs-up-gif-26519262

[quiet flower]

I guess they didn't want the juice

[burnt tree]

they knew what u are

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[quiet flower]

A legend

[burnt tree]

no comment

[quiet flower]

None needed

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/paige-bueckers-delusional-delulu-spotted-spotted-you're-delusional-gif-17367316171648973426

[lethal reef]

at least it's not begging 😂

[quiet flower]

Stop looking in the mirror

[lethal reef]

honor trading is limited per acc

[burnt tree]

i dont have a mirror here so

[quiet flower]

Probably for the best

[burnt tree]

lesat im self aware about my appearance so no delulu

[quiet flower]

Who said I wasn't

[burnt tree]

[worldly hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1108209531453976667/1267986252691669044/image_4.gif

also 90%? more like 99%

[mortal burrow]

cries in naw

[quiet flower]

You have cheaper accs

[mortal burrow]

how much are your accessories o-o

lets say high atk ear

[quiet flower]

Mid-Mids are 70k for Rings, 100k for Earrings

[mortal burrow]

50k min for us

oh mid mid

ear is 80k for mid mid

55k for mid mid ring

[quiet flower]

@stark sky said it was cheaper

[burnt tree]

returning/new players dont count

[slender goblet]

meow

[stark sky]

I thought it was

Maybe I remembered support price

[lethal reef]

look at loose fit chest price

[mortal burrow]

[late portal]

https://x.com/k1bakun/status/1972128125787295756?s=46&t=HP-Naf1g3c8F2oRMC0yqGA

Kiba 💝🐱 | Vacay Mode ✈️ (@k1bakun)

MY FIRST NETHORWORLD KEY!!! #lostark

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X · Sep 28, 2025, 2:36 AM

Real

[burnt tree]

[ebon snow]

WHEN YOU GO AFK AFTER CLEARING BECAUSE REAL LIFE

[late portal]

Wait what

Those can expire hahaha

[quiet flower]

[stark sky]

At least they meet their own requirements

[ebon snow]

never were you punished for being afk after clearing bro

[runic siren]

wait 10 extra minutes to fill to clear 2 minutes faster

they probably just want to parse

[ebon snow]

omg whats with this pussy official server community

gems always go up and down depening what players do ... WTF

[stark sky]

Gems went down 250% in kr after kazeros

People need to relax

We all know the reason why they're skyrocketing right now

[runic siren]

how does something go down 250%

25%?

[ebon snow]

any idea which category I could use to ask for my earned gold back? https://help.playlostark.com/hc/en-us/categories/37753396001051-Account

[lethal reef]

how so

[runic siren]

gems will go down cause fomo is gone once people clear / frontier kicks in

and ark grid giving way more power

but t4 gems will probably soft reset forever

or else KR will quit

[stark sky]

Sorry walking they went down 66%

Or 2.5x

But anyway people are overreacting because the whale event is attracting whales

[lethal reef]

fomo is insane

[junior fern]

Wait I just realized something. If a High/Low is similar to High/High Flat then does that mean a High/low/high flat is comparable to high mid(?)

[lethal reef]

these are the same people who probably aren't even farming hm brel or hm mordum

[late portal]

I mean I kind of agree with it being pushed to December

So more people to attempt to hone for tfm

[stark sky]

The more geared you are the less true this becomes

[junior fern]

As in the chart that gets spread around is no longer valid outside of early T4?

this one

[stark sky]

Yes

[junior fern]

I see

[lethal reef]

high % + high flat kinda sleeper

[tulip charm]

i mean, it could be way worse

[ebon snow]

the ''All'' in this chart triggers me

[junior fern]

It’s supposed to be all 5 pieces of accessory I believe, but no reason to list it as such tbh

🫩

It can be especially confusing to newer players when they look at it for the first time

“all high%” can be read as 3 high % lines lmfao

[ebon snow]

idk who did that but somebody took majority of naruna

[lethal reef]

wait what 😂

so random

[ebon snow]

that's dumb why would it list as 5x the effect I thought they meant one accessory High%Mid% is 11.82%

[tulip charm]

everyone in the game wants this skin -_-, never enough

[junior fern]

Yup my initial reaction too

[stark sky]

those charts suck anyway

Additional is almost as good as outgoing on many classes

and terrible value on others

[lethal reef]

this 20% is fake no?

[stark sky]

Same with crit rate and damage

[lethal reef]

like I swear I hit more 20% one taps than ts

[vagrant cradle]

[quiet flower]

Just don't believe any %s and you'll save some tilting

[stark sky]

It does

Cdmg is just generally better even though the variance is still high

Just simply because of how bad the crit rate line is

But even then some classes prefer crit rate (like 3 classes)

[tulip charm]

NO ONE knows what crit means, until theyve played pinnacle glaiv blunt thorn

[ember crag]

First one done

[tulip charm]

NO ONE!!!

[stark sky]

But if you compare a class with low crit dmg to a class like pinnacle glaive

Or slayer

Or these high crit dmg classes

[final gale]

oopsies

[stark sky]

You're getting infinitely more value on the ring on the former than the latter

It's both

[tulip charm]

this feels like complete shit, thank god i 15/20ed my books instead of 20/20, i got a cursed doll duplicate on my only 20/20 book this week from paradise, worst feeling ever

[stark sky]

Oh yeah but it is class by class

Well I'm saying like

[final gale]

we are not the same

[stark sky]

The variance in value of accessories is very high

[lethal reef]

for rings, should go for high cdmg low crit rate ye?

[stark sky]

There are classes like soulfist who would get like +4% per ring almost for a high high

[tulip charm]

get both at mid/mid
this version's never been cheaper than what the current price is right now

[neon cedar]

Some classes benefit from rate over damage or vise versa. Maybe your class guide says

[stark sky]

Then you have a class like pinnacle who gets like 1.5% for a high high

Lol

Rough estimate numbers

[tulip charm]

pinnacle 500% of your dmg comes from your t skill, 80% crit rate
its actually 40% crit rate, maybe 30%

the numbers lied

[swift tree]

They should ban every person w/ AltAccount in SH name. ngl

[runic siren]

lmao. never have i seen altaccount as SH name and thought. good thing this giga rat is a vet, let's take him. surely he'll succeed the mechs

[tulip charm]

scalp should add this to his new account for new players guide
put "altaccount" in the sh name to bypass some gatekeeps

[wintry depot]

we are gatekeeping alt rosters

[lethal reef]

bro I swear it does tho

lmaoo

[wintry depot]

[ember crag]

Gatekeep everything and anything

[stark sky]

I do not take alt account players

If I am lead

[swift tree]

Gatekeep Lost Ark

[wintry depot]

i dont like rats on alt accounts

[slender sky]

fixed it for you

[stark sky]

Aside from the fact that most of them suck

I just don't like them especially the paladins and artists

[slender sky]

that sh name achieves the opposite

i dont even take them into guardians

[tulip charm]

what if the sh name is coomergodcity

[swift tree]

Can I Haz P2 Support?

[slender sky]

i alrdy played with fayten

[stark sky]

Rat supports r the worst

I say as I have rat supports

[neon cedar]

[ember crag]

Mystic isn't the ark carrier r?

thats anther dragon

[neon cedar]

Bara, I summon you

Wait, the codex has it

[ember crag]

So he was the ark carrier during luterras time I assume?

and the robo dragon is new ark taxi?

[neon cedar]

Robo dragon?

I dont think Mystic every held on to them long term, but would be like an amazon delivery man taking them to where they belong

They were held by the lesser gods, then hidden away by the sidereals

Trixion in the sky is just a little hidden platform to gather and activate them

[ember crag]

No

during Aegir G1

we see a dragon with jet booster for a sec

I've been told that's ark taxi

[neon cedar]

Mystic by design has little thingies floating over him that kind of resemble arks but arnt arks

[ember crag]

No

[wintry lynx]

Returning after a long break... what life skills does one do to acquire gold these days? Signed, someone with 39 gold left that wants to get to 1680. I recall it used to be fishing last time i played

[neon cedar]

Idk what you mean then. There is mystic the dragon with floating things & arthetine sky ships which are not a dragon and dont have arks.

[ember crag]

Log

[neon cedar]

Gold varries depending on the market. If youre crafting fusions, logging is popular because its fast

[wintry lynx]

silly question, but any particular log/location? Does that even matter?

[ember crag]

What the highest region you have

you wanna try do t4

for abidos logs

[sand marsh]

man, getting into mordum nm this week on EU may be impossible

unfortunate

[ember crag]

This dude

[neon cedar]

If youre in T3 dont log & instead excavate in Bellion Ruins, South Vern. If youre T4 log in Abidos Garrison, left side triport

[wintry lynx]

well im 1669.5 or something so tier 4

[covert remnant]

What is q1 and q3 on stats page in uwu

[ember crag]

In sout rimera

[wintry lynx]

Thanks, legend

[ember crag]

the first region

there is a type of square

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[ember crag]

Yans path

I like this location

[neon cedar]

Thats Carl. Caliligos. He was a T3 guardian but has nothing at all to do with the Arks

[ember crag]

I was told he was the ark carrier

[neon cedar]

I could see why he is mixed up with Mystic visually

[swift magnet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/1nswrr7/no_balls_he_said/

rage baiting a bit xD

got downvoted already xD

[neon cedar]

Theyre similar whiteish dragons

[worldly hawk]

upvoted it

could've censored my name better

[neon cedar]

Ill downvote to bring balance to the world

[swift tree]

who tf said that?
Mystics crystals are just power focuses like Soulfists spinny

[ember crag]

Nvm I'm just actually dumb

mb

they do look similar tho in my memory

[swift tree]

Why Rocco call them Ark Carrier

[sand marsh]

oh

am i gonna win...

[ember crag]

@ancient oasis

[neon cedar]

Because he is the amazon delivery man of the arks

[ember crag]

yes

we believe

[safe lark]

i hope he doesnt

[ember crag]

[swift tree]

Ark Bearer is Luterra

And Main Character

[sand marsh]

MY LUCK IS COOKING ON EU

[swift magnet]

[sand marsh]

HUGE

[ember crag]

Wow and I get garbage acc

[wintry depot]

Ban

[sand marsh]

bro this is massive. this gold will help me out a ton wtf

[covert remnant]

Full moon in bottom 10🥲

[ember crag]

That 200k gold?

[sand marsh]

almost 300

[swift tree]

tl;dr Mystic becomes an envoy of Vairgrys and the main character after events of Elgacia.
Why they’re a ally skill

[ember crag]

dang

[neon cedar]

Amazon deliver man (mystic) delivers the package (arks) from the amazon facility (regulus' control) to the purchaser (lesser gods) long before Luterra.

[safe lark]

the least hair u have, more lucky you are

[tulip charm]

scalp streamer rng makes the game too ez...

[sand marsh]

xdd

[ember crag]

I hit 20 this year and started balding

isn't that enough

[neon cedar]

Mystic is a middle man that doesnt own the arks

[safe lark]

no

[ember crag]

tell me your ways deathboi

[swift tree]

Guardians didn’t exist then lol

[sand marsh]

oof

not enough to list xd

[neon cedar]

Okay nvm, Im not invested enough to make another stupid joke to get the point across

[quiet flower]

I'll take it off your hands to list it

[sand marsh]

with this gold on EU i will uh

buy better accessories

get rid of these express event accessories

[swift tree]

I get the joke, just loremaxxing

[ember crag]

Why not keep?

you not doing pala?

[sand marsh]

hmm, high/mid ring is like 545k

[ember crag]

on eu

[sand marsh]

no on EU i play DPS valk

[ember crag]

ah

[sand marsh]

I could play support technically

I have an elixir set for it

[swift tree]

Support deez

(cup the balls)

[worldly hawk]

[sand marsh]

actually

[vagrant cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/960670447547080756.webp?size=96

[worldly hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/whisper-ear-cat-rat-telling-bro-sum-gif-10289035967350308641

[sand marsh]

idk how much this ring would increase my CP by if i swapped to support

[worldly hawk]

he's whispering secret plans to take over the goverment

[sand marsh]

but the problem is i'd have to cut another bracelet lmao

[ancient oasis]

mystic carried the arks to luterra during the chain war

[wintry depot]

Dont play sup, theres already way too much on euc

[ancient oasis]

hes the delivery man of the arks

[sand marsh]

hm yea fair point

plus im not doing bad on dps

[swift tree]

Terminally

[ancient oasis]

from the patchnotes of mystic event raid

[swift tree]

Still not really relevant now though.

Since the key has been kidnapped

[swift tree]

kk concede

AGS translations sometimes dubious. Encountering him at Borea Domain low-key affirms it though

[quiet flower]

Why can't I get these rolls on actual stats

[swift tree]

They need to remove EED from roll pool istfg

So desperate to have the equivalent of gear breaking

[sand marsh]

wtf

i got accepted?!

bro how

[ember crag]

Is that mordum?

[sand marsh]

i look like the worst rat ever

[ember crag]

How in the actual fuck did you pull this shit off

[sand marsh]

i dont know.

[ancient oasis]

on my alt account without title has 1200 CP i got accepted to mordum runs the past 2 weeks

[sand marsh]

2nd lobby i applied too

[ember crag]

Wow

[ancient oasis]

and both were like 2nd or 3rd lobby to

[sand marsh]

who is this..

walked up to me and did this emoji and ran off

[ember crag]

Damn.

[sand marsh]

i wouldnt accept myself on NAE

so idk

[sand marsh]

i guess some people on EU just dont give a fuck

[ember crag]

How they let you join but not me

This game

[sand marsh]

dont u have x10 title?

i only have chaos guardian

[ember crag]

No?

[sand marsh]

title

ohhh

[ember crag]

I've never done mordum.

I would have left

if I got accepted

just wanted to check

[swift magnet]

extra moneys yay

[ancient oasis]

on my NAW alt account that has no title not even chaos guardian last week i got into a HW reclear after like 3 applies with 1200 CP

i think gatekeeping fake fr fr

[ember crag]

What chaos guardian title is there?

[neon cedar]

Chaos guardian is for clearing g2

[ancient oasis]

2nd gate mordum without using the special battle item

(which no one ever uses anyways)

[ember crag]

I see

[quiet flower]

Failing Skolakia stagger check

The first one btw with the buff

Not when someone is grabbed

[ember crag]

I really should start progging mordum this week

[fresh flint]

Probably yeah

[ember crag]

I've been putting it off too much

[tulip charm]

your presence is becoming famous, did you see the reddit thread about you?

https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/1nrxhgp/really_good_video_series_that_shows_fresh/

[lethal reef]

15bil reaper t skill 😂

[stark sky]

Some comments on that reddit thread are extra special @tulip charm

[ember crag]

Of course there are these comments always

[tulip charm]

Net trolled abit, and got down voted

[neon cedar]

Net getting rolled

[stark sky]

Domt care about his comment

Was more referring to the one where it said it doesn't count cause he had previous knowledge

LMAO

[ember crag]

Like isn't the format exactly to help new player

[stark sky]

He should've crippled himself and played poorly on purpose to mimic the new player experience

according to another comment

[ember crag]

Yeah

[sand marsh]

ill go over the history of that in a second lmao

[ember crag]

Like

"Why do you do something to show the new players how to use there resources correctly."

Like are you intentionally dumb

[burnt tree]

when isnt he atp

[sand marsh]

so this comment is half true

not many people know about it tho

[ember crag]

Oh

I see

[junior fern]

to be fair based on my comments analytics

[cosmic flame]

time to do world boss

[junior fern]

it looks like most people don’t agree with that moron

[cosmic flame]

will I finally drop a book

[quiet flower]

[cosmic flame]

i haven't dropped anything from world boss

since I was 1690 on main

[quiet flower]

I haven't dropped anything full stop

At least you got something one time

[ember crag]

You guys get things?

[quiet flower]

I don't

[ember crag]

Me neither

[lethal reef]

my destroyer 😂

[quiet flower]

Must be nice having cheap engravings

Cheapest to max is Hit Master at 1.2mil

[lethal reef]

MB cheap too

[ancient python]

gold elixirs are so good

[vagrant cradle]

true

they're underrated

[ancient python]

i have more luck with them

then with the free ones

[quiet flower]

Crushing Fist Relic engraving

[lethal reef]

getting 4/5 is despair tho

[quiet flower]

But at least some gold here

[lethal reef]

better than 3/5 tho

[ancient python]

i mean

that was what i was going to say

if it was a 4/5 attack power i was happi

but still better than a 3/5 int

(its the same value)

[sand marsh]

about 2 weeks of constant party hopping for TFM, trying to find a group of people who actually know the fight i technically did attempt to buy a bus. idk why he is bringing it up tho. has nothing to do with the video

[ember crag]

Meh i get it

I mean you doing guise vid basically shows yk the raids

So why not

[sand marsh]

it wasnt an afk bus, just me playing along. this about like 3 weeks after thaemine launched. of course it failed miserably. the people who were in it (some of them) were dying to stupid stuff in TFM Gate 1 (Thaemine Gate 3). so i got refunded since it was never clearing. 2 weeks later i cleared with people that i added ingame throughout my pug journey.

[ember crag]

I see so he basically saying something you did 2 years ago invalidates everything you do now?

[wintry depot]

its reddit, who cares

people are dumb af there

at least scalp is actually trying to help people

not like this guy

[ember crag]

Fair point

[sand marsh]

idk. it was the stupidest thing i ever did tho. im glad that bus never cleared. i wouldnt be able to experience the surreal feeling of clearing it after hours and hours lol.

yeah no clue why he brought that up. as if i ever tried to hide it or anything

[ember crag]

I remember doing my first destiny 2 raid in a learning group

3 whole days

[ancient python]

[worldly hawk]

blast from the past

[ember crag]

This thing prob older than me

[sand marsh]

TFM for me, was me logging in, doing TFM, logging off. i ignored dailies and all other raids.

progged g4 2 weeks after thaemine launched. cleared g4 week 3 i think. then i cleared TFM 2 weeks later

i never had a static for it, until the last moment when i formed my own static

[neon cedar]

Vault of Glass pushing the 2nd boss off the edge

[sand marsh]

i wouldnt wish pugging that shit on my worst enemy. it was a nightmare.

[ancient python]

i should've let that chest stayed on my universal storage

forever

[ember crag]

For me it was deep stone crypt

Doing a lfg learning run really shows how dumb people can be

[neon cedar]

True, I guess im also thinking of D1 first raid

[ember crag]

Like we doing an encoubter for the 20th time we told you 20 times bomb need to go middle

[neon cedar]

Oh right, D2 it was the Leviathan. That as chill

[ember crag]

But no

Lets just run around

[neon cedar]

I stopped playing Destiny by the time that raid released

[ancient python]

redditors are something

that

can i call them tylenol users or would be too ofensive?

[sand marsh]

i never watched footage of a destiny raid

was it ever good

[ember crag]

I really liked it

[wintry depot]

dont xD

at least not here

[ember crag]

I only played it cause i wanted to see the story end

[ancient python]

okie

[ember crag]

Dew it.

[wintry depot]

but it made me laugh a bit

[ancient python]

[sand marsh]

arna would 100% call them that and worse

trust

[neon cedar]

Yes, very. For a fps it did a really good job at raids with challenging enemies, interesting bosses and in depth mechanics

[ancient python]

its pretty funny depending about who you called that

[wintry depot]

just not here :D

[ember crag]

Arna has to put up an act

[sand marsh]

lol

[ember crag]

To be mod

[sand marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/stelle-cosmodyssesy-no-dice-honkai-star-rail-gif-12060694738454543109

[wintry depot]

not really

[ancient python]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046939697311649834/1391608417646280714/IMG_1096.gif?width=769&height=823

arna ^

[ember crag]

[wintry depot]

if people piss me off, i just go do something else xd

[sand marsh]

i mean people do that all the time at there jobs

[neon cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-mad-cat-angry-cat-cat-cat-meme-gif-6241738800057917520

[sand marsh]

u ever just want to cuss out a customer

[neon cedar]

arna everywhere else

[sand marsh]

but u cant

true & real

[ember crag]

I do

And i do it

[wintry depot]

or im talking shit about people to my bf in call

[sand marsh]

wtf

[ember crag]

In a polite way

[wintry depot]

[ancient python]

wtf is thos gamers doing

[sand marsh]

I agree with this comment.

He's not wrong

[wintry depot]

i dont agree

[ancient python]

not even stardew valley is a friendly game

[wintry depot]

or disagree

[ember crag]

Like a company in france with 20 workers has a collective iq of 2

[wintry depot]

you can still have fun without fomoing

[sand marsh]

It's not about being a friendly game.

We 100% need a information squish in this game.

[wintry depot]

but yeah, it snot very friendly toward new players

[sand marsh]

Some of these systems need to be consolidated.

[ancient python]

true

thats true asf

[wintry depot]

at least they did paradise but the fact that nothing is explained in the game is yikes af

[sand marsh]

Like trans/elixirs can easily be integrated into ark passive or something.

This is just one small example

[ancient python]

i hate talking about systems because that indirectly goes into my academic field

but yeah, its poorly explained and some stuff could just be put all together

[sand marsh]

A lot of games do a terrible job of explaining things though.

Not just LA

[ancient python]

Explaining stuff is hard

[sand marsh]

Well even if the game did explain stuff.

[ancient python]

it takes real skill for u to be able to get a mass of people to undersand

[sand marsh]

A lot of people don't want to read a wall of text

or watch a few videos

they just want to play the game

[ancient python]

[wintry depot]

people cant even read 2 lines of text

xd

[sand marsh]

yeah true

[wintry depot]

how mnay people came crying here with the nether keys

XD

[ancient python]

"chat gpt tldr this for me"

[worldly hawk]

it was even funnier on reddit

[wintry depot]

i sear at some point i had the idea to do the ai transcript of patchnotes

in a video format

[worldly hawk]

people had full on crashouts

[wintry depot]

with fucking subway surfer in the background

[ancient python]

it pmo when people say that LOA is a dead game like, vro, the game aint easy and to start playing u need certain windows time to get into it

[wintry depot]

i dont think its dead

[ancient python]

but besides that 20~10k player is a good amount for a MMO at current days

[wintry depot]

is it biggest game of the year? na

[sand marsh]

if it doesn't have 1mil+ players its dead

true

[wintry depot]

but i think 3-4k on each region isnt that bad

[sand marsh]

if all the streamers arent playing it

its dead

true

[neon cedar]

Not top 10 game on steam? dead

[ancient python]

remember when LOA released?

that shit was so chaotic

[wintry depot]

yeah i remember queue

every day

4hrs waiting

peak

[sand marsh]

launch of a new mmo is always fun

luterra area chat was popping off

[ancient python]

people stopped playing from like

the poseidon raid and foward

it was sad that it didnt released with legions raids alr

[wintry depot]

people wouldve cried since beginning because ''AH I CANT ACCESS THE RAID, P2W GAME BLABLABLA''

[sand marsh]

yep

[ancient python]

[sand marsh]

and argos launch was probably the worse launch in the games history

besides brel 1.0

[wintry depot]

yeah

[ancient python]

argos

was

[wintry depot]

argos was fuckign awful

[ancient python]

i was there

[sand marsh]

they jus pop there heads out and say

"hey guess what guys, argos comes out next week!"

no prior announcement lmao

[neon cedar]

People watch Shroud spend $5k to get to argos level and it shaped their entire veiw of the game

[nova garden]

My guild mate mailed me leaps so I could do Argos day 1

[wintry depot]

yeeeep

[ancient python]

i fr think that shroud and others guys

[sand marsh]

this was pretty funny

[ancient python]

aint coming back to the game, not because of old bad experience

but because they spend 5k for nothing

and i remember everyone that played LOA on korean saying "its not worth, dont do it"

people still did it

[neon cedar]

They wont come back because it was a flavor of the month game that they experienced and moved on to new flavor of the month games

[ancient python]

[sand marsh]

Well the goal post is always shifting. You spent 5k today. In a few months the 5k you spent can be acquired by F2P's

thats why swiping in this game is pretty meh

[ancient python]

like idk if im wrong

butt i dont feel like LOA is p2w

[wintry depot]

it is

[sand marsh]

It's 100% p2w. But it's one of the worse games to swipe in lmao

[wintry depot]

but its not the worst one

[sand marsh]

You'd be better off swiping in any gacha game

[ancient python]

yeah

[wintry depot]

i swipe for cosmetics, thats about it

[ancient python]

i was going to say that its pretty not the most friendly to free to play

but u can still do, like nowadays

back then?

that shit was p2w asf

[sand marsh]

If you wanted 6 characters at valtan or vykas launch

yeah, it was pretty bad

but one character was manageable

[ancient python]

yeah

that something i noticed after stoped playing

i focused too much on doing all the stuff

and i burned out

[sand marsh]

If you play casually you can get by just fine

im gaming on EU at 1684 in 5 weeks from fresh account. Most people can get close to that with some ingame knowledge.

[ancient python]

yep

i think like, when i camed back

it was too much content but the previously knowledgement still fresh

i could use that old stuff in the current game

most mistakes i made was like, didnt tried to learn more about elixir stuff

besides that

it was the same game, but easier

and way more time-friendly

[wintry depot]

the 1 guardian raid 1 chaos def helped

[sand marsh]

removal of una task is really nice

[wintry depot]

yep

[ancient python]

yep

its so chill, remembered when i used to run chaos and guardian

every single day on 2 account

i was so

drained

and had the syndrome of fomo

[sand marsh]

you know whats interesting

im sure u know about the enlightenment potion you can get from field boss right

[ancient python]

yep

bloodclaw too

[sand marsh]

the CN express event that just launched with valkyrie

gives the enlightenment potion to you

from that field boss

[ancient python]

https://tenor.com/nUf5E6Csk8Q.gif

time to ship to china

ngl, its kinda goated wish they gave us that one

[burnt tree]

this isnt Luen

[ancient python]

im just missing the bloodclaw enlightment point

that one is painful

[burnt tree]

https://imgur.com/mYUyHze

[fresh flint]

Blood law in general is pretty easy

Only one or two that’s a pain to get is the stupid fragment from dispatching and the old bottles rng

[ancient python]

old bottle i was blessed

i got her in liek the 28 bottle

but i need to buy the one from merchant

[fresh flint]

Not me. It took me weeeeeeeks. Months.

[ancient python]

i have no sea coins

[fresh flint]

I got the dispatch one in 3 tries

[ancient python]

im never searching nothing on twitter

jesus in christ

[fresh flint]

Yeah twitter is cancer

[ancient python]

dude

i just got

flashbanged by straight porn searching about loa

😭

[fresh flint]

I use twitter for NOTHING. It’s a weird ass app to be on now

[worldly hawk]

@fresh flint cinder pics pls

[ancient python]

i only use to complain about stuff

[wind dagger]

[ancient python]

if im happy with life i dont use twitter

[wind dagger]

whats social media

[ancient python]

[burnt tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1418938737567596634/Karina-What_Sath.gif

[wind dagger]

im waitng

for new emma skin

[neon cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

fk social media

[fresh flint]

He likes his box

[neon cedar]

Cuteeeeee!!!

[worldly hawk]

best gift you can give a cat is a cardboard box

also what are you feeding him he's gotten HUGE

[fresh flint]

This cat has been coming to my house lately. He finally let me pet him after weeks

[neon cedar]

New cat!

[fresh flint]

He was so calm and just needed so many pets

[neon cedar]

22LBs of food a day!

[fresh flint]

No I would be forced to be homeless

[neon cedar]

No wonder he is so big

[fresh flint]

Shit is expensive

I pay like 18$ for a 5-6 pound bag or something close to that

[wind dagger]

bro eat cat food

[fresh flint]

It’s good and helps to maintain my hairballs

[wind dagger]

[neon cedar]

He was soooooo small not long ago

[worldly hawk]

yeah i also remember him like this

he was so smol

[worldly hawk]

why is he looking at me like that, bit feisty

[worldly hawk]

[slender goblet]

so cute

[burnt tree]

Cinder is his target

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-observe-seeing-i-saw-you-gif-5740825

[fresh flint]

i will fucking eat him

[burnt tree]

ok calm down chuan

[fresh flint]

i am channeling the spirit of chuan

i will eat orange cat if he messes with mine

[worldly hawk]

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-gif-2766816926539874354

[worldly hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-black-black-cat-zoomies-cat-zoomies-gif-14689681662136345500

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gif-25479014

[fresh flint]

He wont tho hes very passive

He doesnt even run

He walks everywhere

[burnt tree]

hes just checking things out b4 he makes his move

[fresh flint]

i want to visit that place

that is like a city of cats

[burnt tree]

Istanbul? xd

[fresh flint]

yes

i would probably never return here

[burnt tree]

[fresh flint]

at night i lay in bed watching videos of istanbul

[burnt tree]

lmao

[fresh flint]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-istanbul-cats-scanning-grocery-shopping-gif-13173431684528864832

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-23868073

[neon cedar]

https://imgur.com/S25aUQo

Watching

[fresh flint]

das nto me

is a random in nm mord

[worldly hawk]

that's very very low no?

[fresh flint]

Extremely for 1690

[worldly hawk]

my rat 1680 gunslinger has 150cp more

[burnt tree]

my 1685 WS has 1400

om

[worldly hawk]

my lowerst is actally my DB

1326

[sand marsh]

wtf

uDPS?

[worldly hawk]

and that's like BARE minimum

[swift magnet]

💀

[obtuse oyster]

Unbuffed dps

[sand marsh]

yeah i see that now

i didnt know they added that. that's cool.

[obtuse oyster]

Think it was added this week

[sand marsh]

trying to find ways to increase my DPS outside of uh

the things i am obviously timegated by

[obtuse oyster]

Real

[fresh flint]

My hunger reaper in g1 mordum is struggling

[sand marsh]

i have like no demon damage xdd

[obtuse oyster]

It’s g1

[sand marsh]

even tho i believe that's a small dps increase at most

[obtuse oyster]

Yeah, that do be a time gate

[sand marsh]

Once this accessory sells I'll have close to 300k gold

https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/character/CE/Deathboî

What do you think I should buy first on EU

[obtuse oyster]

Accs are probably a cheap dmg gain if you have the pheons

[sand marsh]

Yeah I have the pheons for sure

But what's the highest dps gain out of all 3 accessory types?

that's what im mostly curious about

[wintry depot]

time to tag the nerd

[sand marsh]

High crit dmg/mid crit rate is 500k

[wintry depot]

[sand marsh]

@stark sky

HELP

IVE PLAYED SUPPORT FOR SO LONG

IDK THIS SHIT

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-senju-gif-13079766

[sand marsh]

dps valk is really fun though

but man

missing my X

makes me wanna

[burnt tree]

frfr

[sand marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-rage-mad-friend-keyboard-gif-17131133

[burnt tree]

atleast u can move it a bit

if u can predict it frfr

[sand marsh]

yeah ive pulled that off plenty of times

[stark sky]

wat

[sand marsh]

but when the boss does an instant transmission

[fresh flint]

doesnt matter, i need base 100m

[sand marsh]

can u help me with something

[burnt tree]

oh yeah that sucks

[sand marsh]

it should be quick i think

[stark sky]

what

[sand marsh]

I play DPS valk. This is my character. I cut a high ally damage/mid ally atk. its about to sell for 300k. I plan on buying a high/mid dps accessory but idk which accessory gives the biggest DPS boosthttps://uwuowo.mathi.moe/character/CE/Deathbo%C3%AE

is it high crit dmg/mid crit rate? high wep power/mid atk power earring? high outgoing/mid additional?

[stark sky]

necklace

[sand marsh]

oh really. i didnt expect that

let me check the price on that

which one should be high. outgoing or additional?

[stark sky]

outgoing but it costs 200k more for no reason

[sand marsh]

i assume its a minimal difference

[stark sky]

so if you see a really good additional high and its significantly cheaper its better

often times better if your main stat is high and/or you have a flat stat attached to it

[sand marsh]

Outgoing High:

Additional High:

170k diff at this time

[stark sky]

yeah so you want to look at main stat and/or flat stats for the below

[sand marsh]

for the 3rd line?

[stark sky]

a high main stat usually makes up the diff for being additional instead of outgoing high

flat stat as 3rd line or high main stat value

e.g. 17k+ strength

or even high 16k

usually the cheaper h/m outgoing/additionals have like 14.5k strength

and people dont often care on the additional/outgoing h/ms

[sand marsh]

16k+ main stat high outgoing is 700k. ooof

[stark sky]

yeah now compare it to additional

you can probably find a good deal somewhere in there

[sand marsh]

high additional 16k is uh 524k

[stark sky]

people don't want additional even though the diff is small

the only time i would recommend against additional is if you're a master elixir user

but valk clearly is not so

[sand marsh]

yeee

we have plenty of crit

I thought earring would be better as the 1st purchase ngl

[stark sky]

ehh

a bis h/m earring is like 3% for adren users give or take

and neck is like 3.5%

[sand marsh]

Hmm. High outgoing, low additional is 220k with 16k+ main stat

But I don't think I want to settle with high/lows tbh

I rather just go all in on high/mids on this EU project

[crisp falcon]

Is it smart to wait till roadmap to see if we get what China got or just spend goldge on H H accessories?

[sand marsh]

Accessories have gone down in price.

if you ask me, i'd just buy them

plus the china gamba is low chance lol

[swift magnet]

and if that gamba comes to the west the shitstorm will be massiv ig xD

[crisp falcon]

Idk why. theres always been a gamba system.

[swift magnet]

so i doubt we get 1:1 what china has

[sand marsh]

Considering you can gamba without swiping

[crisp falcon]

literally the mileage system was a p2w thing

[sand marsh]

i dont think many people will complain lmao

and if anything, it would tank accessories further

to a certain degree

[swift magnet]

well there will be enough swipers who copmplain about 30 bucks for 0.15% chance xD

[sand marsh]

then just.. dont swipe

is that a hard concept for people?

[swift magnet]

for many for sure if i read all those dentge comemnt in official xD

[crisp falcon]

not free = rage

[sand marsh]

Just use your free tickets as f2p per week

[burnt tree]

you get like 11 free pulls with the 3 gifted ones or some sht

[sand marsh]

and if u get lucky u get lucky

[burnt tree]

and after that from HMs

frfr

[sand marsh]

^^

Fuck swiping for that lol

[burnt tree]

yeah its like 100 bucks per pity

no thanks

[sand marsh]

yep

[burnt tree]

pity is split between 3 uneven things too

[sand marsh]

Hmm. I could also just buy 1 level 8 gem

[swift magnet]

no chance in hell i will swipe for that dumb system xD

[burnt tree]

not worth it

[sand marsh]

but my CP will hardly go up tbh

with 1 level 8

[burnt tree]

even gachas are less predatory

[sand marsh]

Ig necklace is the move

[slender sky]

mileage is literally a cashback shop for cosmetics, how is that remotely similar to the new cn system

[burnt tree]

when u hit pity u get exactly what u want

[sand marsh]

oh like the gacha banners?

[burnt tree]

yea

[sand marsh]

70 pulls u hit pity or sumn

[burnt tree]

yeah and u get the featured character OF CHOISE

if theres multiple

[crisp falcon]

no one said it was similar to the new cn system but its a p2w still as you get stuff no one else gets and 100k gold a month for paying for stuff in the market

[burnt tree]

with the loa gacha

[wind dagger]

i need 20 mileage skin but i only have 5.5k now

[burnt tree]

u dont have a choise

[sand marsh]

im gonna log onto CN soon since i have a account over there

[burnt tree]

0.65% chance to get accessory, and then uneven spread on stone or bracelet

[sand marsh]

ill test it out

i also need to test out the new CN express event

apparently its really good

[burnt tree]

well u do get 2x i guess

when u hit pity

2 accessories, 2 stones 2 bracelets?

ngl this would be bigg for my valk

1 supp and 1 dps bracelet

[sand marsh]

wait

0.65 chance is actually not that bad

or am i coping

[burnt tree]

accessories are the most common things on this list

4 liner high high bracelet or 9/7 are more rare

the bracelet gives u 110 sub stats too

on top of double high of choise

[burnt tree]

its basically 1% to get 1 of those 3 in a sense

2 of those 3*

gg

[stark sky]

1.5%

[burnt tree]

yeah the 0.5 will make a diff

frfr

https://imgur.com/mYUyHze

[stark sky]

its 50% more than 1%

[burnt tree]

apt apt

Anyway Mocha send me 300 dollas

ill gamba

[stark sky]

no ty

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/scary-gif-24860046

bastard

[slender sky]

peoples overall reception might be a tad bit different between getting a glowing jacket that does nothing or getting a 9/7 or bis bracelet of your choice

[crisp falcon]

I think you're not understanding the difference and the same between gamba / p2w. Its different because mileage is p2w and not gamba. We are talking about play to win, and yes cosmetics count in play to win since you can only get those certain cosmetics by??? PAYING to do so. CN is gamba and p2w. the topic was about p2w not gamba.

[fresh flint]

another successfull mordum

mileage is p2w?

[crisp falcon]

paying thousands to get a cosmetic only available in the mileage shop

[fresh flint]

How is that giving you an advantage tho

The boss can see my tits and ass therefor he does less dmg to me

#mileage

[crisp falcon]

oh youre tlaking about p2w in advantages

p2w doesnt always have to mean advantages lol

[burnt tree]

yes it does

thats what Pay2Win stands for

also gold is being removed from mileage

[crisp falcon]

cosmetics are a win

wym

[burnt tree]

cosmetics dont give u an advantage

and legendary skins can be bought with gold

a free to earn currency

[crisp falcon]

so they should just change it to pay2advantage

lmao

[slender sky]

are you under the influence or does your memory not work further than 10 minutes?

[burnt tree]

Tina ure high

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1418938737567596634/Karina-What_Sath.gif

[slender goblet]

u can buy skins to dye them all black so boss doesnt see you

[burnt tree]

Bosses dont attack my DI anymore cause shen she transforms shes a sexy fox girl

p2w af

[junior fern]

I mean… trolling aside if your definition of winning is to look the best, and you play MMORPGs for fashion then sure

[fresh flint]

the hell is this

[crisp falcon]

p2w

[slender goblet]

Wait actually tina might be on to something

[crisp falcon]

[slender goblet]

If u buy cosmetics, you can enter the twitter contests for 1500 BLUE CRYSTALS

[fresh flint]

[slender sky]

onto a bunch of crayons maybe

[crisp falcon]

[slender sky]

that is a pile of horsedung

bold 2nd tap tho

[crisp falcon]

what about it

[junior fern]

Is that an actual official WeChat emoji

because if so I love that lol

[crisp falcon]

wait was that suppose to be like a diss or something?

[junior fern]

way more expressive and creative compared to IOS and Android

[fresh flint]

no

im mid raid

[crisp falcon]

not sure. i think it is.

[fresh flint]

I was trying to ask what it was

But got sucked into skolakia

[stuck vortex]

lol

[junior fern]

It says it in the name…

Language exchange

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-huh-gif-5026055331259108593

[fresh flint]

bitch i wasnt asking u

[stuck vortex]

Bold move cotton

[junior fern]

chris like turtles more like chris is a turtle

slow brain

bozo

[slender goblet]

are u on balthorr by any chance

[fresh flint]

more like ya momma dropped u gtfo my face

[crisp falcon]

no am not

[slender goblet]

nvm then

[fresh flint]

Anyways

I only saw chinese english

and LIKE I SAID

I GOT INTO A RAID

[junior fern]

shit got personal

[stuck vortex]

lol

[fresh flint]

What is an exchange

Are they exchanging knowledge or porn

Or what

[crisp falcon]

its where you exchange languages to teach each other

[fresh flint]

Chicken parm recipes

[junior fern]

oh no he really is slow

[slender goblet]

No no @fresh flint the new saying is their mom took hella tylenol during the pregnancy

[junior fern]

[fresh flint]

lmao

i can def tell tylenol was used

[crisp falcon]

do you do funerals ? @fresh flint

[fresh flint]

yes

[crisp falcon]

I need some of that

[fresh flint]

I can even come dressed up as the deceased

[crisp falcon]

😮

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/morph-transformation-mystique-shapshifter-gif-20184504

[fresh flint]

me and her are the same

[burnt tree]

oml

[vagrant cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sad-fat-chubby-chonky-gif-10547832450058569755

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-standing-fat-epic-gif-23115386

[slender goblet]

this was jennifer lawrence like actually??

[burnt tree]

yea

[slender goblet]

Wtf

[burnt tree]

she was the Mystique in the Xmen movies

[sand marsh]

bruh

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/jennifer-lawrence-mystique-gif-8524948

see

[slender goblet]

Wth that looks so odd

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-dry-heave-vomit-gross-eww-gif-23254765

[slender goblet]

😭

[burnt tree]

old ah cgi