lost-ark-discussions

[cosmic flame]

I think I should have a

random 1475 char

[ancient oasis]

Yea iirc after the incident where twilight priests tracked armen down and killed his mom who had taken him away from sacria to protect him from being used as a tool for war (hes the ark key) some twilight priests found him killed his mom but then archon gustaven showed up with a bunch of dawn priests killed all the twilight priests and they like tried to do a reformation iirc and kick out all twilight

[ebon snow]

Yea iirc after the incident where twilight priests tracked armen down and killed his mom who had taken him away from sacria to protect him from being used as a tool for war (hes the ark key) some twilight priests found him killed his mom but then archon gustaven showed up with a bunch of dawn priests killed all the twilight priests and they like tried to do a reformation iirc and kick out all twilight

[ancient oasis]

Valicio is missing and hes the leader

[swift tree]

He blamed himself both times, that he would only ever be seen as a demon.
Didn't know about the Lost Ark stuff as Varut/Gustaven intentionally hidden that information from him.

Purple quest shows him seeing Lostwind Cliff as a repeat of his mother. Blaming himself both times

[cosmic flame]

come come

[wintry depot]

IM GOINGM TO WORK

[cosmic flame]

lets see if ishy is bad or is this solo mode is actualy not that easy

WOW

[wintry depot]

YOU WANT TO DELETE MY DATA?

[cosmic flame]

WORK

IN 2025

[wintry depot]

stfu

[cosmic flame]

gg I don't even have a char at ilvl

[dull obsidian]

I AINT EVEN CAPPING

THIS IS HARDER THAN HELL CLOWN

[swift tree]

on-level bard or something?

[livid tree]

I would never imagine one day then my colleagues come to me and say she plays LOA

[bleak star]

that is some dark shit ngl

[swift tree]

darker than priests throwing children from cliffs?

because that was a thing

[ancient oasis]

bro that rowen cutscene was crazy

they were just kicking old people and kids off cliffs

and you see their bodies rolll down the cliffs

that was wild

[bleak star]

I completely forgot about it

[ancient oasis]

IIRc they also like killed everyone in the village to that armen and his mom were hiding in

[wintry depot]

Hahahha

[dull obsidian]

CLOWN IS TOO HARD

that fucker moves too much

I should've played empress

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sandwhich-bread-kitty-kitten-gif-24293158

theres no way brel g1 changes the mechs that much right

lmao

[ancient oasis]

They also were taking delain children and experimenting on them and shit

the evil sacria is like really fucked up lmao

[swift tree]

Brel is low-key easier than Clown solo

just need to get past gate 1

[dull obsidian]

dude

I forgot how much that shitter moves

holy shit..

maybe its because I ran it on emperor

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-identityv-emote-idv-smiley-face-gif-12832615043786697281

[dull obsidian]

everytime I quad evoked

he just performed the ankle breaker 3000

on me

[ebon snow]

He needs to do a greedable pattern

[dull obsidian]

when all I can cast is evoke

I need to throw it

..

where cdr

[cosmic flame]

what even is your ilvl ishy

[tulip charm]

his 1755, ready to kaz

[dull obsidian]

1475

lol

[cosmic flame]

theres no way its this bad

i don't have a 1475 char to test

[swift tree]

skill issue, clearly

[ancient oasis]

i have a 1490 i could try it on

no 1475 tho

[burnt tree]

Since ure maxed now can you send me 700k gold every week for 3 weeks?

[cosmic flame]

no

[ancient oasis]

smoll loan

[cosmic flame]

stop begging like them pf honor lobbies

[burnt tree]

Wdym

I just want to get max cursed doll

Idc about stupid honor

[cosmic flame]

run ep

problem solved

[burnt tree]

Ew

[cosmic flame]

run SS

[dull obsidian]

nah he just moves too much

if I was on empress it would've been better

lmao

[cosmic flame]

evoke isn't that delayed

i think you're just more used to empress

[dull obsidian]

no he literally just poofs every 3s

atleast in my run

[burnt tree]

Ong Love and Deepspace age rating increased to 18+ cause they added backshots

[dull obsidian]

LOL

did it really?

[burnt tree]

Yeah at Japan

[dull obsidian]

they backshot you?

[dull obsidian]

as far as I know the game is all dudes..

[burnt tree]

Yeah they backshot the main character

Whose a chick

[dull obsidian]

LOL

[burnt tree]

Well the new character

He whispers something like "take what I'm giving you" at the same time

And it shows backshotting

[meager hill]

[cinder mango]

[burnt tree]

Yeah hes a variant of one of the dudes

[cinder mango]

What is this sathona talking about?

[burnt tree]

He's basically the God of Annihilation and he annihilated the age rating

[burnt tree]

"this" as if there's another

[cinder mango]

another sathona

@empty sleet hey you

[burnt tree]

That's my OG account

[cinder mango]

what happened

your og account

[burnt tree]

Was hacked, discord took 2 months to restore it and instead of waiting I switched to this one permanently

[cinder mango]

[burnt tree]

But it was for the best

Don't wanna deal with BnS players again

Blessgers in disguise

Also i wanna send u what i was talking about but your account is more secure than the Chinese President

[cinder mango]

[burnt tree]

Can't dm, can't add

[cinder mango]

If I tag Roxx will I get banned?

[burnt tree]

She probably won't even reply

Plus its kinda weird to tag staff members

From AGS randomly

[cinder mango]

Is there anyone else working at AGS besides Roxx?

[burnt tree]

Henry is here too

[kind lotus]

Sathona

[tulip charm]

Damn his 6x 1720 enjoyer

https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/character/NAW/Henryslays/roster

[burnt tree]

Inktak

[burnt tree]

Well hes a lucker nd a whale

[tulip charm]

@queen grail gratz on your 42nd 200k ember from rng flex

Azena ember is a scam for me. Maybe 10k ember x3 per week

[celest tiger]

I miss playing DCUO kinda

[earnest girder]

Guys , what are u buying with prestige points ? Whats the best value ?

[ancient oasis]

theres not really a best "value" for mileage mileage is cosmetic mainly

[ebon snow]

Nothing cuz im not a whale

[ancient oasis]

but i guess if you want the gold and card packs you can get those but i mean the skins you can only get from mileage

same with the other cosmetics

[ebon snow]

Character change ticket seems smart

Bound gold/cards seems dentge

[ancient oasis]

gold is like 500$ to buy it

[ancient oasis]

yea for 100$ you can get 1 char change ticket...

[ebon snow]

Yeah let's say you have bought character changes and slots in the pass, then you get the change ticket on top

[ancient oasis]

smh just save for like a mvp background, pose pack or something

if you cant hit pose 37 you arent loa gaming fr fr

[burnt tree]

i have it but i dont hit it

frfr

[ancient oasis]

when waiting for chaos gate i hit pose 37

[ebon snow]

The mvp pack just makes you look whale even though you aren't

[ancient oasis]

i hit pose 37 before honing taps

[burnt tree]

i always go last minite frfr

[burnt tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1418938737567596634/Karina-What_Sath.gif

5000 isnt a lot

[ancient oasis]

when everyones grabbing feast? thats right i hit pose 37

[ebon snow]

Yeah let's say you never bought progression things but now you have same mvp screen as people who progress with $

[burnt tree]

i didnt buy progression shit but ppl disregard the luck aspect of the game

i was labeled a whale b4 all that

https://tenor.com/view/noa-pajama-blue-archive-angry-skill-gif-7704635827689755866

[ancient oasis]

i show i am a whale by swapping to a different mileage skin each gate while i have my luxury moko pet, and soon ill have golden vairgrys

ill be flexing on all the poors

[tulip charm]

The best value is a coomer skin

It might get you a lot of honor upvotes too

[ebon snow]

With whale comes obligation to Cruel

[burnt tree]

Best value without trolling is the gold

But the gold is also being removed

[ancient oasis]

i play valky sup tho

[burnt tree]

So nothing i guess unless ure a coomer

[ancient oasis]

i did MVP tho

mileage skin has great view

[burnt tree]

Meanwhile i use that mvp pose with the sky dance skin

[ebon snow]

Cringe pose

[ancient oasis]

no booty tho

[burnt tree]

Exactly it's covered

[ebon snow]

#MSDD

Make Sky Dance Dyeable

[celest tiger]

Wish someone could run my dailies for me 😭

[ebon snow]

Oh the weapon? Sure you can dye it

[ancient oasis]

i actually like the way it looks on my valky, but it cant be dyed

[ebon snow]

Yea its good

[burnt tree]

Female Warrior is the Sky Dance loser imp

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/yess-yes-gif-25420589

[burnt tree]

Imo*

[ancient oasis]

what if i told you i bought a mileage skin specifically for those glasses

[burnt tree]

You buy the 300 dolla honing packs

[ebon snow]

Am gonna throw you back into the ocean

[burnt tree]

Its no surprise

[bleak star]

I feel like I'm at the end of the story

this one is entertaining

[burnt tree]

Whose story

[ancient oasis]

ok but look at how massive this ass is.

[bleak star]

North Kurzan

[burnt tree]

Oh nice

[ancient oasis]

North kurzan is good story

[burnt tree]

Yeah NK is peak

Rocco what are the odds we get the Kazeros Finale quest at December with Korea

[bleak star]

battle is clearly inspired by Battle of Black Gate from LOTR imo

[burnt tree]

Since we get Cuckzeros at November

[tulip charm]

Really? I thought kurzan story is pretty mid, same for rimeria

[ebon snow]

Battle of black gape

[tulip charm]

Nothing beats elgacia story

[burnt tree]

Yeah but Zheng ure not popular for ur tastes

[ancient oasis]

that would be peak if we get the finale quest faster then KR did

[tulip charm]

Sad people won’t be able to experience elgacia story anymore unless they really go out of their way to do it

[burnt tree]

KR gets it with December patch

According to Mr JJH

We could pretty much get it the same day frfr

[ancient oasis]

Elgacia story was really good, but i liked north kurzan more personally ngl

[brittle hawk]

powerpass should just bypass story quests instead of skipping

that would be great

[burnt tree]

Elgacia was great but Kurzan overall was awesome

[ancient oasis]

south rimeria kinda felt like a bit of a filler arc ngl

[burnt tree]

Specially when Kazeros wakey wakey

[brittle hawk]

probably annoying to implement

[burnt tree]

Rimeria was just getting Shandi therapy

[brittle hawk]

definitely but it was really good and emotional

[ancient oasis]

poor shandi

[burnt tree]

Poor Zinnervale

[brittle hawk]

it was like shandi's rapport quest

[burnt tree]

That's not how rapports work

[tulip charm]

New(er) players have their home base in Kurzan now, but old school players might still remb the many months your char was stuck in punika/elgacia

[ancient oasis]

the thing with hanu though ngl

did not make sense to me at all

[burnt tree]

Zheng its a live service game ofc endgame hubs will change etc

[tulip charm]

Some people even like the wakanda voldis theme

[ancient oasis]

Voldis hub still the best hub layout

[burnt tree]

Kurzan has the latest world boss as well so its more convenient

[tulip charm]

I still think elgacia is best

[brittle hawk]

like as in because it was all about him basically nothing else

[burnt tree]

Yeah Voldis is great

I have some of my alts sitting at Voldisu

[brittle hawk]

i like voldis too even pleccia

[burnt tree]

Well it evolved in being more than just him

[brittle hawk]

in fact after south vern it was all much much better

[burnt tree]

No one was expecting Rimeria being assaulted by the Abyss

[brittle hawk]

did they get new writers or smth

[burnt tree]

No

[brittle hawk]

or is it because pee river left

[burnt tree]

Gold River has already finished all of the story

This is his writing lmao

[ancient oasis]

its because the first part of the game was pretty much just world building and stuff

then south vern is when the actual story starts "progressing"

[burnt tree]

After gathering all the Arks frfr

[swift tree]

South Vern was the start of the "Grand Prophecy" being enacted

[tulip charm]

By far the most upvoted ost, it’s not even close lol

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jZwv83Stl60&pp=ygUNZWxnYWNpYSB0aGVtZQ%3D%3D

[burnt tree]

Lazernes

[swift tree]

tl;dr North Vern and Sea of Procyon started the plot threads for both South Vern and Elgacia

"Meet me at the Dreamless Paradise and plead your case for the fate of this world"
After clearing Ancient Elveria at 50

[burnt tree]

Sacria will trigger the next arc

[swift tree]

And sea of Procyon quests and islands slowly built out information of Sylvains, Vern, the start of the war etc.

[tulip charm]

Not sure if people remb. That south Vern extremely long bridge where you have the time stop mage guy with you. I liked that part of the story

[burnt tree]

That was good

Frfr

[brittle hawk]

do you mean the dead one

[burnt tree]

Yeah him

[swift tree]

fun fact, one of the statues Xereon talks to you about is the undead commander on Death's Hold

@ancient oasis 2.040816326530612... bet you it takes 49 days for it to fill

[burnt tree]

Now Xereon isn't just dead, he's dead dead

[swift tree]

not just dead, soul shred

absorbed by the duat

stopped from reincarnating

[burnt tree]

That's why I said dead dead frfr

[swift tree]

superdeath

[burnt tree]

He ceased to exist ong

[swift tree]

like plucking a stone from the river

[ancient oasis]

RIP to a real one

[burnt tree]

Meanwhile Zinnervale said nah fuck that

They got this imma reincarnate

[swift tree]

Zinnervale probably already reincarnated

[burnt tree]

Frfr

[swift tree]

New Lost Ark babeh, bet

[burnt tree]

Probably

[ancient oasis]

we gon get our get back on kazzy for putting so many homies in the ground.

[turbid oriole]

you can put river water in your socks

[swift tree]

Smilegate said they're gonna retcon the raid

[tulip charm]

I feel like zinnervale is magically alive somehow and they are gonna bring him back like lutera for abit

I hope they don’t

[celest tiger]

Zinnervale's Second Coming

[burnt tree]

Meanwhile the post-Kazeros clear cutscene had the MC do nothing

[brittle hawk]

wait what um

[burnt tree]

But being dizzy

[burnt tree]

The post raid cutscene was horrible

[ancient oasis]

wait what are they changing om

[brittle hawk]

LMAO

[burnt tree]

Vairgrys diving Kazeros

[brittle hawk]

i didn't watch it but that's hilarious

[burnt tree]

Among other things

[tulip charm]

Apparently after you clear kaz, the cutscene/story is complete ass

[ancient oasis]

i thought vairgrys nuking kazzy made sense

[ancient oasis]

i just thought the shandi thing was kinda a meme

[burnt tree]

Nah people found it hilarious

Vairgrys dive is a meme at Korea

[tulip charm]

The kr players hated it so much they memed it and made fanmade stories, so I think smg us reworking it

[ancient oasis]

did they think like the player character should have stabbed kazeros or something

[tulip charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/366111733879799812/1274580270942785567/runv.gif

[ancient oasis]

vairgrys doing the final blow and exploding himself makes snese

[burnt tree]

Nah more like contributed

The Player did absolutely nothing in the cutscene

[ancient oasis]

its only because of us vairgrys is helping arkesia

[burnt tree]

Yeah but the point is

[ancient oasis]

we convinced him the power of friendship is important

[turbid oriole]

the real ending, screen cuts to black, then this comes on screen

https://media.tenor.com/oRVXTJsgYUcAAAAM/lostark-funny.gif

[burnt tree]

The Sidereals, The Allied Forces, The Guardians, Vairgrys all of them attacked Kazeros

[turbid oriole]

and then you wake up on x301

with the fever dream

[burnt tree]

And we are just watching

[turbid oriole]

and it deletes ur char

[tulip charm]

Rip luen… I watched the mordum endings…

[burnt tree]

Not even watching actually the player is stunned

[tulip charm]

Why he ded

[burnt tree]

He's gonna ressurect

[ancient oasis]

Varkan bodied him

[burnt tree]

Guardians don't perma die

[tulip charm]

The big deer with the antlers that fought argos with us 3 years back, be ded

[turbid oriole]

wtf r they in hell

keep giving them sensu beans then kill them

[burnt tree]

Its like the tailed beasts from Naruto

[ancient oasis]

Guardians cant die

[swift tree]

changing that Vairgrys just bodying him and all the Arthetine lazers

[burnt tree]

They can revive over time

[turbid oriole]

https://tenor.com/vHsoh0PC2Yb.gif

[ancient oasis]

but vairgrys exploding makes sense smh

[swift tree]

only if Vairgrys revives them

[tulip charm]

That’s what’s gonna happen to me tmrw, I put in the key, screen turns black, multiple times

[burnt tree]

Im pretty sure he started the process for Luen anyway

[swift tree]

probably going to add some lines or some details about him lingering

[ancient oasis]

then kazeros takes over the world cause theres no ark key to stop him

[burnt tree]

The Ark Key allowed him to return to divinity

[ancient oasis]

kicking armen off the bridge is the bad timeline

[burnt tree]

And it returned to Armen

He cooked

[brittle hawk]

what is this LMAO

[swift tree]

*good timeline

[burnt tree]

Killing the Ark Key excellent idea

[turbid oriole]

like an orange shart

[tulip charm]

A very very old quest in the game

Not even trolling

[brittle hawk]

i know the quest but why did he kick him off 😭

[burnt tree]

Cause hes a nihilist

[turbid oriole]

#lost-ark-discussions message

[brittle hawk]

i didn't even know there's an anim like that

[turbid oriole]

i shouldve recorded that

that quest was

https://tenor.com/cqDSQ99vYEf.gif

[ancient oasis]

i cant wait to find out kakul split kazeros energy in two and made it into a pair of puppets we will fight in primordial shadow kakuls raid. Gate 1 Maddened Failed Prophet Brel, Gate 2 Puppet of the Shadow Kazeros, Gate 3 Primordial Mayhem Shadow Kakul

[burnt tree]

The new Saydon card on KR is called "Shadow of the Beginning"

[tulip charm]

Where is confused thaemine and kadentge

[swift tree]

Primordial Shadow, Kakul-Saydon

[burnt tree]

[ancient oasis]

Kakul taking brel prisoner makes her a perfect candidate for a gate 1 in shadow kakul raid

[swift tree]

Kadan gets his heritage back and Thaemine says gex with Kharmine

Khaemine

[ancient oasis]

They going to be enemies of the primordial shadow

[burnt tree]

She will probably escape

But it will be too late for her daddy

[tulip charm]

I will take Brel prisoner and put the horns back on her !!!

[burnt tree]

[burnt tree]

Perish

[swift tree]

purple questline or MSQ to do with the raid

[turbid oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKJHPvvjvys

[ancient oasis]

Kadans going to find out brel is his mommie

[swift tree]

they belong to echidna

[swift tree]

inb4 Demulschud is her homeland

those giant towers on the new world map are sussy

[burnt tree]

Brel attacks Punika to take back her land

[swift tree]

Punika wasn't her land iirc

[ancient oasis]

the haal empire was spread out iirc

[burnt tree]

Il

Ik*

[stark sky]

Can we stop fighting brel

shes lowk kinda getting annoying

[burnt tree]

Agreed we should backshot her instead

[stark sky]

[burnt tree]

Where rapport quest

[swift tree]

instructions unclear, shot in the back

[burnt tree]

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-gif-19686970

[ancient oasis]

brel and kadan are the only way to repopulate the haal race fr fr

[swift tree]

inb4 they're all hidden in one of the cubes

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/keanu-reeves-the-matrix-bullets-stop-gun-gif-17396986

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/brelshaza-abrelshud-lost-ark-brelshaza-lost-ark-abrelshud-lost-ark-gif-24978416

[burnt tree]

"Navinos" told Kadan that he must live

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1418938737567596634/Karina-What_Sath.gif

[swift tree]

why is that gif so deep fried?

[burnt tree]

Idk

[ancient oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/brelshaza-brel-abrelshud-lost-ark-lost-gif-14855197319347314848

i think no horn brel is hotter

[brittle hawk]

ohhh the 4th wall quest lmao 😭

[brittle hawk]

much better

[burnt tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1237062956492259431/1417962424996200568/Kazeros_Hymn_to_Death_Sath.gif

[swift tree]

you got that old concept art? I cant find it

[burnt tree]

@swift tree

[swift tree]

ye

[burnt tree]

Mostly looks the same

[swift tree]

totally not what it ended up being like /s

[burnt tree]

With minor changes

[swift tree]

add the wings/crown and its almost the same

[burnt tree]

Unironically what are the odds he will look like the concept art after he loses the ark key

[swift tree]

probably

[burnt tree]

Basically losing command over Order

So he's more demonic

[swift tree]

stripped of wings/crown and armour... almost like a fallen angel

[burnt tree]

Call him Samael

[burnt tree]

Godamn

[swift tree]

final phase is under a red moon

also low key totally doesn't look like the joke one I made when we discussed him being censored for China

[burnt tree]

Inb4 he eats the red moon to recover then we get a story quest boss fight

[burnt tree]

The purple moon u mean

[swift tree]

already does in the raid fight though

[burnt tree]

Oh

Well too bad

He's fucked now

[tulip charm]

His Tyrone from Diablo 4

[swift tree]

G1 -> G2 "absorbs its power"

[burnt tree]

Inb4 Kazeros becomes a good guy

Heyyy God of Death can you revive Zinnervale thx

[tulip charm]

You only get to revive one person before kaz story ends

Everyone chose to revive vykas, the end

[burnt tree]

Cringing

She's mid

And overrated

[swift tree]

Vykas is giga dead

in order for her to 'revive' she has to be separated out from Echidna

[tulip charm]

Could also revive zeherade, but she not ded

[swift tree]

Zeherade is alive, just a child

[burnt tree]

Revive Lauriel

[swift tree]

Only just to fuck with Kharmine

[burnt tree]

Inb4 Lauriel has to stay dead so the timeline gets fucked

[swift tree]

low-key making the gods turn against Regulus

[midnight drift]

revive Prunya

[cinder mango]

[tulip charm]

[swift tree]

Free the gods, they already have the power to resurrect ppl :3

[cinder mango]

kazeros update when

[swift tree]

November tbh

[cinder mango]

this november?

[swift tree]

yes. most likely

1. Russian version gets it then, as per consultation with Smilegate
2. Smilegate wants to use December to push the conclusion of Act 1 globally
3. Our Kurzan Front campaign ends on the same date at Russia, the 19th November (assumed update date)

[cinder mango]

Did they mention Act 2 solo mode?

[swift tree]

That would be something announced with Winter LOA On

especially since it's a year since release

also no longer in top 3

it legit seems like they're using paradise and a few Korean special events to make it so 2026 starts with KR/NA/EU/RU near parity

[wind dagger]

[swift tree]

Korea has nothing but special events and paradise until Winter LOA On

after we get Kazeros, we're caught up-- apart from events/ark passes

[bleak star]

that was the plan

[swift tree]

yeah, that's what I'm saying. Have everyone finish Act 1 at the same time

China is on track to be close to that timeline, but not quite there iirc

[bleak star]

quest longer than anticipated

they did Zinnervale dirty though

[swift tree]

you doing North Kurzan?

[bleak star]

yes

[swift tree]

first time?

[tulip charm]

We won’t ever catch up, or kr would riot

[bleak star]

yes first time

[swift tree]

[bleak star]

I quit during Kayangel and returned

[lethal reef]

top 5 worst guardian raids on ilvl?

[tulip charm]

thar tanked kaz just fine

[swift tree]

Thar is literally wearing plot armour

[bleak star]

I'm at the mysterious cave now

and meeting this guy in hood

[swift tree]

who do you think it is?

[cinder mango]

[bleak star]

idk Armen

[swift tree]

lol

[bleak star]

or Regulus I dont know really

[swift tree]

btw your character going "huh this place looks familiar" is coz of Anikka story

[tulip charm]

That walk on the darkness on the lone bridge is was spooky the first time

[wintry depot]

velga, achates, tytalos, calliligos
unnerfed ofc

[lethal reef]

where's veskal

᲼

[wintry depot]

veskal is chill af

[lethal reef]

I hate veskal sm

solo tho

[wintry depot]

yea but those were atrocious XD

[lethal reef]

caliligos is bad ye

was bussing velganos back then

[wintry depot]

we got it nerfed

im pretty sure

[swift tree]

Velganos, Achates, Caliligos, Hanumatan (he's shit, stop pretending) and Alberhastic

[austere saddle]

wtf hanu is the best

[wintry depot]

oh yeah alberhastic was ppretty shit also

[swift tree]

farming him 50 times for the last MoS card and he forces you to do all 3 forms

[wintry depot]

yeeepppp

i did it also XD

[tulip charm]

Where is extreme monkey

[lethal reef]

alberhastic is the green tree no?

[swift tree]

[lethal reef]

wait

[wintry depot]

we talk guardian raid

[lethal reef]

im tripping

[swift tree]

no the one that looks weirdly human

[wintry depot]

and hes not even close

to the unnerfed guardians

[swift tree]

Levanos is the tree

[lethal reef]

ahh I remember this mf 😂

[wintry depot]

tytalos achates were atrocious

[tulip charm]

I just remb unnerfed caligos went into the air every 3 seconds

[wintry depot]

FUN GUARDIAN RIGHT

[swift tree]

I mean, absolutely would... but I'm not happy about it

does some weird ass dragon/bird transformation like Valinak in his final phase

[swift tree]

remember Kayangel gate 1?

[tulip charm]

Original g1? The griffon?

[swift tree]

yes

[slender sky]

is he a good or bad guardian

[lethal reef]

kayangel had 4 gates?

[tulip charm]

G1 really wasn’t that bad, just 1 annoying mech where you had to collect orbs

Everyone hated g2 because tienis was cancerous for entropy, and g3 had that bugged orb mech that sometimes 1shotted your char, that bug never got fixed

[turbid oriole]

revive goku

[bleak star]

so it was Luterra

[wintry depot]

it did

but sg took ages to fix it

[swift tree]

ye

[midnight drift]

goku does not have boobas

[wise pasture]

everybody does, just not big and woman booba

[wise pasture]

was it actually fixed? it was there still last time I did it, which was like year ago i guess

[nova garden]

finally not a poor

[bleak star]

anyways done

[wind dagger]

Bring this one back

And Velganos

[uncut dirge]

man, this support shortage is really annoying

[ancient oasis]

support shortage

are you playing in 2024 still

[vagrant cradle]

[bleak star]

[uncut dirge]

when there are lobbies titled

and they've sat there for 10 minutes

i'd say there's a bit of a lack of supports

[junior fern]

lowkey thought tytalos was fun 😭

that was the one that u need to pick up orbs and throw at him right

[ancient oasis]

for strike raid?

[uncut dirge]

yes

[ancient oasis]

everyone already did their strike raid this weak its the last day

[uncut dirge]

yeah yeah yeah, this story happens every single time

[junior fern]

can definitely see how its super annoying as HW but back then we didnt have too much content that was engaging anyways

[uncut dirge]

it's really grating when people keep bringing this idiotic point up

because you're implying that somehow support players play the game early in the week, and dps players don't

also, if such a difference does appear in the end of the week

then that does, in fact, imply that there's a support shortage

[ancient oasis]

No im implying that these seven players didnt raid early in the weak

[uncut dirge]

because the raid runs out of supports

[ancient oasis]

so they will take more time to find people for a raid

most people run their raids earlier in the weak

[uncut dirge]

the reason they will take longer to find

[ancient oasis]

support is by far the most populated roll

[uncut dirge]

is because all the other lobbies are also looking for a support

and have been since the time i mentioned earlier

but i was being tongue-in-cheek about support shortage anyway

[ancient oasis]

Support surplus in HM mord.

so yes there should also be a surplus in strike.

there are way more 1700+ sups then there are 1700+ dps.

[uncut dirge]

yes, and some of them play as dps

it changes absolutely nothing about all the lobbies looking for supports

[blazing stag]

They don't count as sup in the chart

Rocco sounds right

[uncut dirge]

of course they do

[ancient oasis]

They dont

[blazing stag]

They don't

[ancient oasis]

Sups playing as DPS dont count

[uncut dirge]

i'm sorry, they don't?

[ancient oasis]

No they dont count in this chart.

[uncut dirge]

so, they somehow magically know which players have a dps and which have a support build for raids?

[junior fern]

I mean they can tell when things are bus/"weird"

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[ancient oasis]

They can see when someone clears what roll they played...

[junior fern]

What makes u think they cant tell when a Bard raids with True Courage?

the fuyck

[uncut dirge]

yes, but that's completely irrelevant though?

[ancient oasis]

No it isnt lmao?

[uncut dirge]

because if they look at raid CLEARS, then the ratio is always going to be 3:1

[blazing stag]

How is that irrelevant lmao

[uncut dirge]

because every lobby that clears is gonna be 3:1

[junior fern]

wtf youre talking about supply

[magic plover]

🍿

[ancient oasis]

They can also see if the character is a DPS spec or sup spec equipped to

[blazing stag]

That is assuming every player does their raid every week

[uncut dirge]

yes, but that isn't as clear of an answer

because every support is going to have a chaos spec that's always gonna be dps spec

[junior fern]

If you're making a cheeseburger, there will ALWAYS be 2 buns minimum.

That doesn't mean there won't be more supply of the buns just because only two gets used per burger???

[uncut dirge]

and people will frequently do chaos then log out

[junior fern]

You're talking about supply/surplus/demand/shortage

How is the supply available not irrelevant to the convo

[uncut dirge]

yes, that's my point you dummy

[junior fern]

oh my lord

you're dense LOL

[blazing stag]

🤣

[uncut dirge]

if you want to look at how many supports there are

you CANNOT look at raid clears

[bleak star]

just keep this discussion civil just dropping that in case

[slender sky]

ppl still falling for the bait

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[uncut dirge]

it's not bait, they're being stupid

[junior fern]

Yeah unfortunately I think I fell for it this time

[blazing stag]

I wish it was a bait

[junior fern]

Thats on me tbh

[uncut dirge]

i would really love to ask you to explain how you can hold the two contradictory positions

but i've had enough discussions around here to know that people will never bridge that gap

and will just resort to name-calling

so just to clarify

[vagrant cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/731769498897481799.webp?size=96

[blazing stag]

Sounds like you name called first

[uncut dirge]

if you look at support to dps ratio, you cannot use raid clears as a way to gauge the ratio, because then you're measuring the ratio of classes clearing the raid, which is always going to be 3-1

which means that you have to look at the classes

you can probably count some of the supports as dpses with high certainty by them never having any support clears

but it's absolutely not something that's some kind of rock-solid piece of information

eg valks that have never done a supp clear only count as dpses

[junior fern]

Just to be clear @uncut dirge you do realize this isn't showing you RAID CLEARS right?

[uncut dirge]

but your average bard, artist, paladin has almost always had support clears

[junior fern]

Just the people within that ilvl range?

[uncut dirge]

which is what i was saying?!?!

[junior fern]

So you're agreeing with his point

[blazing stag]

You are literally arguing with your point and it's fun to watch it

[ancient oasis]

Yes but btw if you take the amount of 1700+ supp class specs add them up then divide them by all DPS specs guess what

[junior fern]

The charts literally show u there are more supports than DPS (relative to the 3:1 scale u mentioned)

[ancient oasis]

theres actually 40% of the playerbase

which is sups

[uncut dirge]

you said this

[ancient oasis]

so it cant just be measuring if the class is a sup

[uncut dirge]

now tell me how that would be part of this conversation if you didn't talk about raid clears

[ancient oasis]

they must know the difference between sup and dps spec.

[junior fern]

That part is specifically about how you say uwuowo cant determine whether a support is a support build or DPS

[ancient oasis]

total sup classes is 26206 above 1700 total dps classes above 1700 is 64697

26206/64967 is 0.405

[junior fern]

You having the delusion that enough support players are primarily playing dps

[ancient oasis]

so its higher then 28% actually.

[junior fern]

and therefore the "support surplus is fake because just some of them might be DPS primary, you can't really tell until they clear the raid"

[ancient oasis]

its like 40% of classes above 1700

are support classes

[junior fern]

is just a wild assumption with no real evidence

lol

[uncut dirge]

you're the one that brought up raid clears on it

and then try to backpedal on it

[junior fern]

I didn't, I just mentioned that the site can in fact determine if they're support or DPS lol

[uncut dirge]

and uwuowo can't tell the difference, because every support has a dps build

[junior fern]

Yeah true man, for sure

[blazing stag]

Not every support play that DPS build on raid clears

[uncut dirge]

yes

[half escarp]

This is by far the funniest fucking debate I've ever read in this channel by the way in 4 years please continue.

[blazing stag]

How hard is it to understand this

[uncut dirge]

but they have a build for chaos

[ancient oasis]

every lobby i see up rn is lf dps

There is no supp shortage, if you actually played sup you would know how irititating currently it is to find parties maybe on eu its diff but on NAW and NAE theres way more sups then dps.

[uncut dirge]

i have 3 artists

and on one of my valks i gotta play support at the end of the week sometimes

[wintry depot]

Ya it was in patchnotes some times ago

[uncut dirge]

but it's only an end of the week thing usually

[junior fern]

alt roster enjoyer?

[wise pasture]

I first read it as arti

[wintry depot]

Nop, that was alberhastic i think?

[uncut dirge]

i wish i had made an artillerist at some point

[wintry depot]

Tytalos was the dumbass with the sand squirl

[wise pasture]

wheelchair go brrr

[uncut dirge]

it seems like an interesting character at times

[bleak star]

my favorite it wiped parties

[uncut dirge]

but also seems veryfrustrating

[bleak star]

[mortal burrow]

achates prob

[wise pasture]

it is, but recent raids are really annoying with its grabs

[uncut dirge]

the real difficulty on tytalos wasn't apparent to us

because we had enough damage to clear it quick

but the real problem was the circle he summons that spits out balls

that forced someone to stand on it

[mortal burrow]

the mech with achates glowing one of 4 colors

[uncut dirge]

but once you had damage he rarely ever did that mech

[mortal burrow]

gotta throw correct colored orb

[junior fern]

It was Achates, sorry

[mortal burrow]

else he would reflect and explode

[junior fern]

You break statue -> throw orb/gem

[wintry depot]

I think it was alberhastic

Oh achates okay

[uncut dirge]

if you like achates you should go do the trial version of it

[wintry depot]

Shitass guardian too

[mortal burrow]

i dont think you throw anything in alberhastic

except

these hands

[uncut dirge]

yeah, alberhastic is the one with a bajillion different moves

it becomes trivial with high damage tho

[junior fern]

Cant lie the chaos guardians albeit annoying have some cool ass dessigns both in mechanics and visual

[mortal burrow]

you know what guardian i kinda hated

[junior fern]

I think when its HW content it becomes annoying/less appreciated

[mortal burrow]

levanos..

his tree mechanic is annoying af

[junior fern]

but other games dont put this much work into making all their "hw content" different and unique from one another

[wintry depot]

Thing is those type of guardians should be a raid

Not a daily

[junior fern]

Every guardian (except the elemental ver. of themselves ofc) are super unique

[wintry depot]

The difficult ones

[junior fern]

Yeah I get what you mean, but I just think its super cool that they actually put that much effort into guardians

But I guess early on those guardians were part of the main draw of combat, since raids wasnt a thing yet

The later guardians became less mechs and more patterns

Like Alberhastic, Deska, etc.

[uncut dirge]

i hated ice bird

[mortal burrow]

i hated

lava chromanium

his fucking shooting ability

hurts so much

same in paradise

[junior fern]

Lumerus was actually a goat guardian on launch ngl

It wasn't too complicated, but the patterns were deadly

but they also came in a pattern

[mortal burrow]

i hated velganos too

[junior fern]

once you memorized it, it became much easier

[mortal burrow]

b/c people couldnt dodge blac kpatterns

[junior fern]

Lumerus was like the definition of no hand holding, but well designed enough for players to learn the game

[uncut dirge]

what's the 4th guardian

that one was funny on release

[junior fern]

Igrexion was also bad bro

So many people dying from DOT damage

[junior fern]

Vertus?

The fucking land shark guy

with darkness

[uncut dirge]

yeah

nah, vertus was without darkness

[junior fern]

oh im thinking of dark legoros for the darkness

theyre both land shark looking dudes

[slender sky]

damn out of 1 run

[magic plover]

deska my beloved

[uncut dirge]

vertus did swim underground tho

and then jumped out over someone

but the most frustrating part of it on release was that his tail swipes stunned

and when he stunned someone he was liable to grab people in front of him

then smashed them into the ground rotating

threw them in the air and breathed ice on them

at ilvl that basically 100 to 0d someone and was hilarious to watch

[cinder mango]

[slender sky]

[trail tendon]

is anyone on ratik online can u pls check if theres luterra card at merchant

[nova garden]

finally, something good from frog

[ebon snow]

YOINK

[forest flicker]

https://lostark.qq.com/web202304/detail.html?docid=13732341371252183545

[vagrant cradle]

wait what is this bracelet stuff

is cn cooking again

[ebon snow]

Shing shong+50%

[vagrant cradle]

[ebon snow]

Literally our effects

Just with fried shrimp

[vagrant cradle]

i need to know what cn is cooking up

[ebon snow]

Looks like a pity system

[worldly hawk]

pity sytem for stones?

[vagrant cradle]

wait it's for accessories too?

Idk what they're doing but I think I want it

anything is better than pure rng

someone linked it https://lostark.qq.com/web202304/detail.html?docid=13732341371252183545

[ebon snow]

Probably only costs 38469 prestige points

[worldly hawk]

42069

[lunar stag]

I LOVE THIS UPDATE

please amazon, make this tmr

[ebon snow]

Best I can do is Christmas next year

[vagrant cradle]

na apparently it's a lottery type thing

[wintry depot]

gacha

[ebon snow]

Guessing game lol

[slender sky]

i put a buck fifty on it that its just a different layout and taken wildly out of context just as usual

ah

nvm

[lunar stag]

I just like the idea of the secret scrolls dropping from raids

[vagrant cradle]

ready for the quality pity though

[lunar stag]

more exciting drops from raids, more gacha

[vagrant cradle]

I have multiple characters at like 97-99

[cobalt sleet]

Jesus what is cn cooking

[lunar stag]

this what we need

[lunar stag]

hopefully something we get soon

[cobalt sleet]

Its insane how the game is being saved by cn

Is this real life

[formal frost]

if this gets added im still gonna low-roll somehow

[ebon snow]

[stark sky]

of course you are

its literally a gambling system they made because they have gambling banned in their country

so they have to live through gambling in games

[forest flicker]

Colored Diamond Purchase: Through the Ark Store, you can purchase 1 [Pearl of Creation] item by spending 990 colored diamonds. There is no limit to the total number of acquisitions.

[stark sky]

thats why gachas are so popular in east asia

[brittle hawk]

whats this about cn saving the game

[brittle hawk]

those countries are real for that

[wintry depot]

they arent

[lunar stag]

What's the most right highest item?

[wintry depot]

people think you can get things for free when its a giga gacha p2w system

[lunar stag]

i know the top 2 are stat choosers

i like the quality automatic upgrade ones, but i really don't wanna get them instead of egraving selector or bound 8 gems lmao

[brittle hawk]

Meh paradice was made for them and it was the first proper w we have EVER had in terms of reward distribution

[wintry depot]

paradise is a collaboration between regions, wasnt made by cn

[brittle hawk]

Oh

[wintry depot]

cn might have had first idea

but needed smilegate to approve

[lunar stag]

actually the ability stone thing might not be engraving picker but autmatic level up?

[vagrant cradle]

W CN

[wintry depot]

ew

[brittle hawk]

w cn

[fleet plover]

People thinking that china can actually develop something without SG

[cinder mango]

[slender sky]

ppl cried their eyeballs out about azenas blessing (which is also a cn creation) but then celebrate a lottery system with unlimited buyable entries

[brittle hawk]

i bet they developed it and told dirty sg 'put it in or we drop the game'

[brittle hawk]

they shut up after a week lol

[burnt tree]

New gacha system and guaranteed quality upgrade tickets not under 1% chance??

[swift tree]

[burnt tree]

AGSWHEN

[swift tree]

Lotteries earned in-game though

[swift magnet]

make it 0.5

[burnt tree]

That was KRs rates

[vagrant cradle]

I just want to upgrade my weapons that are stuck at 97-99

[swift magnet]

[formal frost]

what if they add multiple blessings in the cash shop to increase your luck.....

[burnt tree]

What if i ended you ...

[formal frost]

[swift tree]

The field boss summoning obelisk is nutty

[wintry depot]

imagine not having weap 100 in 2025...

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-dexter-dexter-doakes-gotcha-found-you-gif-14688017774431904057

[swift tree]

Same principle as buying Cube Tickets tbh

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[lunar stag]

I am so lost on the system, i thought there is no lottery involved, you get a scroll from raiding and you do gacha and get one of those items, when you do dozens of scrolls you get the chance to double the rewards?

that what i understand at least

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[swift tree]

Pearls and Scrolls It’s also butchered translation

[lunar stag]

when you get the reward the scrolls is consumed

[vagrant cradle]

Yeah I have no idea

[lunar stag]

yeah, and you can also buy them weekly i think for silver

its similar to some mmorpgs i played

allods online had a very similar system, but the rewards were mounts and some times crystal dust (equivalent to little gems used to upgrade the gems to higher level)

i hope the 100% thing is a pity

and you choose the reward

[turbid crow]

The general meaning is that you can win a major prize by spending 3,000 RMB.

[lunar stag]

i am not sure if our cash shop is diff then CN

because 1 pearl for 1000 crystal is crackhead level of scam

[wintry depot]

our shop is diff yes

usually its more expensive for us than cn

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-motherfucker-vindicators-gif-9639641

[burnt tree]

Yeah CN has cheap but good packs etc

[burnt tree]

Encourages spending alot

[lunar stag]

Ok so i was right

there is pity

100 scrolls

so 300 pearls

and its random pity lmao

GACHAAAAAA

[burnt tree]

AGS when

[pastel robin]

https://tenor.com/view/wallet-gif-25866507

[swift tree]

2 scrolls on 1720+
1 scroll on 1710 with chance for a 2nd
1 scroll for 1640-1710

[turbid crow]

The optional bonus ranges from 9,000 to 18,000 RMB.

[burnt tree]

18.000 right mouse buttons? Crazey

[high fog]

Please for the love of god

Don’t fucking bring this over please ags

I beg

[lunar stag]

What i hope is the pity is across all lines

[burnt tree]

AGS when

Pls

Add it i beg

[lunar stag]

for example

you do 25 scrolls

you get thefirst 4 lines

[turbid crow]

so CN is p2w

[lunar stag]

50 scrolls

3 first first lines

[burnt tree]

Always has been

[lunar stag]

its not just 100 scrolls the first line

[high fog]

Cn is giga p2w

[burnt tree]

Their packs are cheap but plenty so ure encouraged to spend

Meanwhile the packs here are Scamggers

[swift tree]

Scroll drops from Raids
Pearls from Workshop, Sign-in, silver and Store.
Rosalind Theatre is a card lottery for extra scrolls/pearls.
Obelisk lets you summon a special field boss that drops pearls

[burnt tree]

Only whales and Rocco buy em

[wintry depot]

yeah you feel kinda forced on cn because packs are giga value

[pastel robin]

We have 0 good value packs

[wintry depot]

compared to us that you feel less fomo

perosnally i prefer our version

[burnt tree]

Are you saying we can summon Obelisk, the Tormentor?

[lunar stag]

is that a good or a bad thing?

[burnt tree]

Both? xD

[swift tree]

Use an obelisk to spawn funky version of Sevek Atun

[high fog]

It’s a very bad thing to very many of us, and a very good thing to the rest

[turbid crow]

this 79RMB

[high fog]

Pick a side

[swift tree]

tf is RMB?

[lunar stag]

No to be that guy, but our game is pve focused and pvp almost non existent

[turbid crow]

this 10RMB

[high fog]

Pve encounters are scaled by expected performance.

[ancient oasis]

how is them adding more stuff bad for people who dont spend already

[burnt tree]

What's an RMB lol

[high fog]

It’s not really a other people have no impact on you

[burnt tree]

It also has free taps

So iunno

[formal frost]

right mouse button is the only RMB i know

[burnt tree]

Same

[wintry depot]

chinese yuan

[burnt tree]

So why not CNY

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1418938737567596634/Karina-What_Sath.gif

[high fog]

In Chinese it’s ren ming bi

[lunar stag]

Special secret drawing

38%

When it reaches 100%, use the special secret blueprint to strengthen it and get 2 times the production reward

Ok

[burnt tree]

Ok ok hao ren

[lunar stag]

so the 100% thing is double rewards

[swift tree]

Good for Ren and Ming being Bisexual but what does that have to do with Lost Ark?

[lunar stag]

the 100 scrolls things is pity

[wintry depot]

What is Renminbi (RMB)? Renminbi, also known as RMB, is the currency system in China. The base unit of the renminbi is yuan, which can be written as CNY. The Chinese word "renminbi" (RMB) means "people's money". It was named so because it was issued by the people's government of China.

[turbid crow]

In the end, all of Tencent's games involve some form of lottery.

[lunar stag]

my question is, when you do gacha the scrolls are consumed?

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/stealing-money-sneaking-chris-tucker-rush-gif-13459444

[lunar stag]

the system isn't bad?

it seems quite fair

for gacha system at least

[swift tree]

probably 1 scroll = 1 roll and that /100 is roster wide

[burnt tree]

CNY wahoo

[swift tree]

Lost Ark had gamba before Tencent ngl

[burnt tree]

Korea added gacha system some months ago

20 rolls 1000 gold each a week

[swift tree]

Yoz Jars, Honing, Gems, Card Packs etc.
Thaemine EX was a worse version of this tbh

[burnt tree]

CN monetized it

[swift tree]

Korea’s events seem to favour buss/raid sweats.
CN stuff favours pure gacha

[burnt tree]

Raid sweats ruined the game fr

[ancient oasis]

yo

you can make a high/high???

thats poggers

[burnt tree]

AGS when

[pastel robin]

[kind lotus]

Tencent cooking as always

[burnt tree]

Wait thats the highest gamba reward right

[swift tree]

Also get 9/9 stones and Bracelets

[burnt tree]

The weird boxes are those

[swift tree]

Bracelet/Stone/Jewellery yes

[burnt tree]

AGS when

[turbid crow]

Many people have started to sell their accounts.

[burnt tree]

Won't miss em

[swift tree]

rage quitting at event announcement?

[ancient oasis]

yea the box is accessory bracelet then stone

[lunar stag]

Cn doesn't reward slow grind of wow like mmorpgs

[turbid crow]

yes

[burnt tree]

Bracelet how many effects you can select?

[lunar stag]

they want genshin zzz style instant 1 week farm 30 rolls characters

[ancient oasis]

2 its a four liner

110+110 stat

[burnt tree]

Damn not bad actually

[ancient oasis]

2 legendary effect

[swift tree]

There’s a weaker version that is 100/100 and 2 purple

[ancient oasis]

theres a lower tier bracelet reward to yea

[swift tree]

Still better than most tbh

but entirely gacha

[lunar stag]

the legendary one you can only gt from scroll first line and its the lowest chance i think

but despite having braclet on the icon

[swift tree]

Meanwhile getting fucked by Strike Raid

[lunar stag]

i think its all acc?

[ancient oasis]

No 1 is bracelet, 1 is ability stone

and 1 is the accessory high/high

[lunar stag]

ohhhhh

ok ok

man this system pure gamba but looks fun as hell

[burnt tree]

Peak