lost-ark-discussions

[wary cradle]

i mean, i'm bad. But i'm good when i know the raids through much repetition until i hit those "AH HAA" moments and know how to deal with that pattern everytiome after that

Oh that's no problem. i got a monday and tuesday scheduled to prog echidna hard and aegir norm. And another guy said he's doing brel normal teaching/learners. So

[sand marsh]

Yeah that's everyone for the most part. Even I myself am a slow learner at times.

[wary cradle]

i'm just gonna try to watch these vids, and retain as much as i can, and try to sync it to the fight when it happens

[sand marsh]

If it were me I'd just watch a guide from anyone, anywhere for hard mode brel until I have memorized the ideology of the mechanics like the back of my hand, then I'd apply to reclear lobbies.

That's the strategy I'd adopt if I was in your shoes frfr

[wary cradle]

Yea that's exactly what i do.

I watch the vids over and over, specifically at some parts i'm not sure about.

and then try to see how it goes into that stuff when i do the learner. Like i played a ton, from beginning til kayangel

[sand marsh]

For brel, there's honestly only 3 mechanics you'll ever see and really need to know.

Gate 1 x120
Gate 2 x335 and x145.

Everything else is whatever

[wary cradle]

but quit for a year or so after

[crimson light]

You can do it, I'm also a bit slow sometimes, especially when we don't have much accounts to do raids I have only one and 2 alts are not even 1620 so I only have my main to learn

I always have my cheat sheet next to me in case x)

[wary cradle]

and it felt really good, like being able to carry t3 brel on a hitmaster cursed doll stone nights edge, 1500, while the whole lobbies 1540, and i mvp and solo finish g3 g4. well old g3 g4. now it's uh g2 and g3.

[sand marsh]

At least once every few weeks, I see a brel lobby that messes up Gate 2 x335 in HM brel and requires a restart. And this is in reclear lobbies full of 1700s.

So if you memorize those 3 mechs and understand how they work, you'll be better than a good amount of people already plaguing reclear lobbies

[wary cradle]

yea, the person doing the laerner run mentioned somehting about 145

i'll learn it all. Just gotta make sure i know the raid wipe mechs

[uncut dirge]

so what raid are you dropping for 1680

[wary cradle]

co summoner is super low ceiling, but easy for learners

[sand marsh]

145 is literally going to your x3 or x3+1 position, smacking a ball a few times and then walking to the outside to get frozen.

That's as dumbed down as I can make it.

[wary cradle]

i havn't watched that far yet in the guides

no worries.

[lunar stag]

what's 335? the rotation or the ground shapes?

[wary cradle]

but in short, i just wanted to say ty for making the vid

i do gotta say. when i came back, with soloraid options. I did a bunch of them blind and that was super fun. That's something u coudl never do in group raids lul

[sand marsh]

party 1 in, party 2 out or vice versa - decided before the raid starts. at 335, the party going outside, goes to their x3+1 clock position, memorize the 3 colors at their position. Inside party calls the color that is shown in the middle, outside party steps on the tile matching the color in the middle.

Technically, you can do the job of both inside and outside if you are comfortable enough. Which is what I do.

[lunar stag]

who gets wiped at that?

[sand marsh]

Just to minimize a restart occurring.

[crimson light]

That's only on KR servers x)

[sand marsh]

By stepping on the wrong color...

[wary cradle]

i havn't watched that part. Hopefully there's more than color. cause i got problems with color. but so far. ther's always been otehr ways in all raids besidfes color

[crimson light]

Colorblind probs ?

[wary cradle]

Like in t3 brel. cube boss. positioning, ther's a number for the dots etc.

[lunar stag]

that's the easiest mech she has, what i see people get wiped on is the rotation, since if one guy gets blind the whole raid parties couuld get blinded

[wary cradle]

yup.

[uncut dirge]

well the problem is that people will call the color

so you have to associate the color name with the symbol

[crimson light]

Oh.. there's no option for you to turn on or smthg that can help you ?

[sand marsh]

It's just a memory game. That's all it really is. If your position shows blue, yellow yellow. Simply repeat that in your head. If the middle is showing blue, go to blue.

[wary cradle]

like a vykas charm ordeal? I mean no worries i'll see it when i do :d

[sand marsh]

That's basically it.

[uncut dirge]

and by "repeat in your head" he means "type it in chat"

[sand marsh]

Nah I wouldn't do that.

[wary cradle]

oh it's a mech where u should rtype? like old brel g6?

[uncut dirge]

i do, works great

no

[sand marsh]

No, you don't need to type in chat and I don't suggest it.

[uncut dirge]

it's just easier to tyep it out than to remember it

[wary cradle]

oh ahah

i know i'm over thinking it. Like i did a group aegir earlier this year. And we cleared it effortlessly. I learned nothing. And they said i did fine

[sand marsh]

I disagree. Your standing there like a NPC typing out your color which you can use your internal monologue to repeat it to yourself a single time and not forget it.

Each to their own I guess.

[uncut dirge]

340 wipes would be WAY more common if we relied on that

[wary cradle]

I mean, once u know the game. .. u know the game.

[uncut dirge]

from my experience most people type

[wary cradle]

It ain't like when iw as progging clown, and visual overload

[sand marsh]

I rely on that. In fact most good parties i'm in don't even type out there colors anymore.

It's subsconious behavior.

[lunar stag]

340 wipes never happened to me since i don't know, the mech looks simple

[uncut dirge]

yeah, that's where the wipes come from

[wary cradle]

I have no clue what u guys are talking abouit haha.. but i will eventually

[sand marsh]

Emphasis on good parties, no.

[lunar stag]

maybe if she was shooting lazers or pendulums and we had to dodge it would be harder, but you just see one side ping it and go to your spot

[sand marsh]

The parties I've had wipes in, are people standing there for 5 seconds trying to type out there color in chat lmao.

The people that don't need to type out their color and use their internal monologue, don't cause wipes.

That's my anecdotal experience on it.

[wary cradle]

Ok, i guess in short. If i was to ask. If learning t4 brel, harder than it was learning t3 brel when it came out?

[sand marsh]

t4 brel is easier.

[wary cradle]

I loved t3 brel, all 6 gates. fighitng prokel and so on

oh cool, yea it'll be no problem.

[lunar stag]

how long did it take for the first party to clear brel tier 4?

[sand marsh]

Yeah you won't have a problem. I know a new player who is alreaddy getting comfortable with it on normal mode, and a returning player who is now reclearing it multiple times a week.

You won't have a problem bud

[dull obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-vr-chat-milltina-maid-cute-gif-6870465306633734560

[uncut dirge]

i mean, any raid you do

[wary cradle]

And i get it, and appreciate u trying to motivate me. But i'm also disabled these days and not the sharp kid i used to be. Just playing games to help days go by. And Sure. at the core i always wanna be good. But also i just want low stress too.

[uncut dirge]

once you're past prog (if it wasn't super quick) you'll basically be comfortable with it

[dull obsidian]

just play normal

[wary cradle]

Yea i mean i got over 10k hours. granted more than half is afk haha

[dull obsidian]

this game is hyper casual now

[uncut dirge]

i don't think the game is all that much more casual now than before

you're just way more experienced at it

[swift tree]

You type it because both parties can be given the symbol to aim. Someone on the outside won’t know where to point it

[dull obsidian]

[wary cradle]

Well, i mean, most of it is afk, a good chunk of it is drunk and high in trixion. And the rest is actualy playing maybe :p

[sand marsh]

this game is mickey mouse. and the mind is a great tool that many understimate or just don't use. You put in the effort, you'll see it pay off. Unless you have no hands (quite literally no hands), you'll be fine xdd.

[dull obsidian]

The maplestory group came out of nowhere and is clearing every raid with some help

My friends who are new are clearing the raid with some help

[sand marsh]

No you can do both.

[dull obsidian]

the game is casual on NM mode

They struggled hard on HM

[swift tree]

well yeah, do both though

[sand marsh]

I do it in every single run.

[dull obsidian]

but NM is literally giga free

the extra revives really help with learning

[wintry depot]

Usually im the only one that type the colors but idc at least im sure im fine

[dull obsidian]

so we don't have to just restart when one is dead

[swift tree]

NM is just solo mode with other people

[wintry depot]

[bleak star]

arna awake

[dull obsidian]

Lurker Carried..

doesn't evne play the game..

[bleak star]

WRONG

[swift tree]

Has been clutch with Brelshaza x145

[bleak star]

I do

[dull obsidian]

WTF HES BACK

https://tenor.com/view/anime-vr-chat-milltina-maid-cute-gif-6870465306633734560

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-back-gif-8275005

[wintry depot]

Yea my fucking cat is waking me up

[swift tree]

sry mobile sent it twice

[uncut dirge]

man, orbs deal a lot of damage with 5 million paradise power on a 1580

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smacking-other-cat-cat-cat-smack-cat-swat-gif-10347810988835752163

[bleak star]

[lunar stag]

yes, solo mode mordum where you stand in the middle of the fucking circle and have the lazer aimed at the safe spot, i don't know why so many players do that, we survive by inches because they just can't stay at the edge of the safe circle

[dull obsidian]

[wary cradle]

Compared to how it used to be perhaps. But it's still demanding in ways. Like when i first played knowing nothing about the game. First time i fought urnil, i got pooped on so hard cause most games u spam attacks and win. I was too scared to fight him again for a whole month. But once i startedlearning the game more and how what u do, when u hit buttons, and positioning matters alot. I was like I CAN BEAT THIS. So yea. i mean. It's casual now for lost ark vets. But i think for many people that aren't used to having to do things good, it'll still be hard for them.

[dull obsidian]

what region was this dude even on..

[bleak star]

dude was on EU

[dull obsidian]

what

this game aint for you then what

Urnil got you shaking?

[swift tree]

GG use scarecrow

[wintry depot]

resist on copypasta

[dull obsidian]

ye

I had to resist too

[swift tree]

Compared to how it used to be perhaps. But it's still demanding in ways. Like when i first played knowing nothing about the game. First time i fought urnil, i got pooped on so hard cause most games u spam attacks and win. I was too scared to fight him again for a whole month. But once i startedlearning the game more and how what u do, when u hit buttons, and positioning matters alot. I was like I CAN BEAT THIS. So yea. i mean. It's casual now for lost ark vets. But i think for many people that aren't used to having to do things good, it'll still be hard for them.

[dull obsidian]

Compared to how it used to be perhaps. But it's still demanding in ways. Like when i first played knowing nothing about the game. First time i fought urnil, i got pooped on so hard cause most games u spam attacks and win. I was too scared to fight him again for a whole month. But once i startedlearning the game more and how what u do, when u hit buttons, and positioning matters alot. I was like I CAN BEAT THIS. So yea. i mean. It's casual now for lost ark vets. But i think for many people that aren't used to having to do things good, it'll still be hard for them.

[wary cradle]

I actually don't have good hands due to an auto immune disorder and my fingers all messed up. But i was a musician for most of my life, so it's like. Yes and no? haha

[sand marsh]

ok y'all are toxic wtf

[swift tree]

ok y'all are toxic wtf

[dull obsidian]

ok y'all are toxic wtf

[wintry depot]

ok y'all are toxic wtf

[bleak star]

you too arna?

[wintry depot]

[dull obsidian]

Wait

[wary cradle]

Yea, i mean. When i first started. I knew nothing about the game and only tried it cause a friend asked me to.

[dull obsidian]

@bleak star did you leave the racist discord

[wintry depot]

Carried was there?

[lunar stag]

What are we even talking about? Deathboi isn't against thecalling of the colour he is againstthe calling of the location for the colour? i mean just ping the location?

[dull obsidian]

yeh brother but a whole month of not doing dailies is crazy

[sand marsh]

the way i see it, if you know what 1+1 is. can operate a keyboard and mosue, you can play lost ark at an average level

[swift tree]

I thought it was the terminally horny discord?

[bleak star]

dm

[dull obsidian]

??

[wintry depot]

1+1 =3

[dull obsidian]

ok

[sand marsh]

no im just saying that there is no reason to type the color of your own spot in chat for brel g2 hm x335.

[wary cradle]

Point being, i was not used to having to play and focus that way. overtime i learned. No need to be mean about it dude.

[sand marsh]

unless your still progging the raid.

[lunar stag]

you talknig about the initial calling or the second calling?

[swift tree]

based QT

[sand marsh]

im talking about the 3 colors at your own spot brother

[lunar stag]

oh yeah i actually agre lmao

[wintry depot]

https://tenor.com/view/scroll-scrolling-swipe-swiping-cat-gif-3457966727180730693

[lunar stag]

just ping the location

[sand marsh]

but even any color at all, i don't see a reason to be typed out.

[lunar stag]

for somebody to go stand in

[sand marsh]

pinging, sure. cause u may have duplicates

[dull obsidian]

thats a daily 2 minute monster

[wintry depot]

I type because i have the memory of a goldfish but i still ping

[swift tree]

oh lol I don’t know enough about that one, but from what I know it’s true

[dull obsidian]

Idk what got you shaking for over a whole month

[wary cradle]

Yea, i do fine, and really well sometimes. Granted i'm usually in bed using a thumbball mouse cause i'm a cripple. But i sit in a chair sometimes wth a normal mouse when i'm learning or playing with other people.

[sand marsh]

you haven't done brel hm?

[swift tree]

nop

[sand marsh]

wat da helly

[quiet flower]

So many statics looking for people, but have insane requirements

[dull obsidian]

6x 1730 or bust...

[swift tree]

I’ve been playing the game chill, no fomo

[sand marsh]

im gonna be 3k cp soon

[quiet flower]

Just saw one that wanted Week 1 Eclipse, PL and LoT for homework raids

[sand marsh]

brel hm was like 10 centuries ago

[dull obsidian]

week 1 eclipse?

LMAO

[sand marsh]

there is no fomo

[swift tree]

8 months yeah, I only started it 2 months ago

[dull obsidian]

I have week 1 legion cmdr if that matters

[swift magnet]

i cant even remember sometimes which line was first in g1 mordumb xD i just follow ppl sometimes xD

[dull obsidian]

i didn't bother with eclipse

until later

[swift magnet]

and sometimes follow the wrong one and get hit 3x xD

[wary cradle]

I mean. people are different. I just wasn't interested since i didn't know how the game worked. Dunno why gotta say it like that. I'm just not a tryhard or competitive person sometimes.

[sand marsh]

ok thats just stupid. literally less than a handful of people have week 1 eclipse

maybe they want saturn???

[dull obsidian]

its not a tryhard ot competitive thing

its a daily quest

[swift tree]

gross

[wintry depot]

Oh i got used to that one at least xD

[dull obsidian]

like this a thing people do 6x a day

[swift magnet]

it depends on my mood lol if i am tired i cant remember that xD

[uncut dirge]

man, i'm doing so much more dps on drextalas now than before

and i've not improved my gear

supports are just way stronger/better

[sand marsh]

i only bothered with it because gate 4 thaemine is the pinnacle of lost ark raiding content.

shit was so fun for its time

[dull obsidian]

nah I had no one to eclipse with

my normal static went to bus with hetsu and seldom..

[sand marsh]

i was pugging it 24/7 xdd

[dull obsidian]

nah cba

[sand marsh]

i only formed a static by adding people i met via 10000+ lobbies i attempted with

log on, do TFM, log off

everything else was boring

[safe lark]

Thx4inv

Rejected bcs i have hair

[wary cradle]

@sand marsh anyways, i just wanted to say thanks for making the vid.

[sand marsh]

yea np man

[wanton root]

i love pugging

[swift tree]

:<

[swift magnet]

9 drops books in the alst 2 weeks xD

[bleak zinc]

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shaking-cat-shaking-black-cat-gif-10360185503342402570

[quiet flower]

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/rats-pulling-stealing-rat-paper-gif-25819054

[uncut dirge]

these guys don't actually wanna fill up their lobby, do they

[cosmic flame]

whats the avg cs for a 1680

[uncut dirge]

like

1200-1250

[cosmic flame]

so he wants your avg 1700 char to join a 1680 raid

I guess his lobby his rules

[quiet flower]

My friend got into a lobby for Brel NM last night; 1675 Breaker gatekeeping everyone

They finally filled and he was diong 30mil DPS

To add: He asked if anyone knew how to do Sidereals, and then spent the raid telling the leader to then use sidereals

[wise pasture]

ofc he was

[quiet flower]

[south harbor]

1500 for mordum be lucky if you find that for hm

the people i see applying

[quiet flower]

So my alts have a chance

[wise pasture]

ye, I just have to make most lobbies 2k+ atm in hm or keep sifting junk for 30mins for no reason...

[quiet flower]

I'll probably just keep doing NM on my 1700s tbh

[south harbor]

now if you could add a cs min that would be nice i guess

[cosmic flame]

glad I have my gems to inflate the hell out of my cs

[quiet flower]

Gamer in my party using SS and CD

[wise pasture]

I mean you can

wouldnt use that myself, but it is viable

[quiet flower]

It's an RS SF

Thought they used Mass Increase

[wise pasture]

[lethal reef]

lunar so fun to play when you know what you're doing

[cosmic flame]

they can run that

remember

relic beats boring leg book

if its viable its viable

[quiet flower]

Done Mordum yet as Lunar?

[lethal reef]

yep

was in top 3

[burnt tree]

thats why u should fund me 20 relic grudge books ong

[quiet flower]

Mordum was what made me go back to Hunger

G1/G2 anyway

[cosmic flame]

i can't even afford

5

[lethal reef]

yeah you have to hunger in g1 g2

[burnt tree]

damn u really went broke

[lethal reef]

can do lunar on brel g1

but have to hunger g2

fat enemies = lunar

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[quiet flower]

Holy

1720+ lobby for Mordum

Failed stagger 2x

[ancient oasis]

[wise pasture]

[quiet flower]

Our 1755 sorc also just dced on 3rd pull

[burnt tree]

it is him Diaspero @swift tree

[steady crater]

https://tenor.com/view/rats-running-escape-gif-16259830

[quiet flower]

[wind dagger]

shit game

[quiet flower]

1755 in these lobbies is bait

[wise pasture]

last 1755 I saw had absolute garbage everything

[burnt tree]

but i thought high ilvl = better player

[quiet flower]

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/tbbt-sarcasm-sheldon-cooper-gif-25590311

[quiet flower]

Spent all his money on the character instead of on his ISP

[burnt tree]

xdd

[cosmic flame]

do you have the logs

[ebon snow]

Same 1720s failed brel stagg 1x then 2x ded on shield mech

[quiet flower]

Replaced the 1755

Go in again

Fail stagger

[cosmic flame]

guess wasn't his fault then

[charred void]

look at hp bar whos getting hit

then block the names

ez avoid

[ebon snow]

Spoiler it was everyone

[cosmic flame]

got logs for it @quiet flower ?

[charred void]

here is my new paladin pig build

wish i could replace the counter too but there's only 2 shield skills in the pool left

[quiet flower]

Can show after

[ebon snow]

XD

It's the beam build

[burnt tree]

this sucks

[ebon snow]

LS beam and LoJ Beam

[burnt tree]

[ebon snow]

Wait a minute

[uncut dirge]

bruh

what are these supports this week

[ebon snow]

Hp and gsl

[uncut dirge]

mordum g3

75 - 89 - 41 - 37 bard

[ebon snow]

You know what it could work with the paradise orbs

[swift tree]

There's a Deadeye on Innana w/ the same name

[charred void]

yes

[brave gazelle]

I told my friend I wanted Korean fried chicken but now I kinda want Korean bbq

[uncut dirge]

you know what the sad part here is?

[brave gazelle]

😭

[uncut dirge]

the support uptime on my teammates looks good

surely i just didn't stand in the circle, but no

i actually have the same or more circle AP buff uptime than my teammates

[charred void]

aerroon

[uncut dirge]

they just... don't pressb buttons

[ebon snow]

[uncut dirge]

this week i've had so many ultrabad supports

i can't

i just can't

[charred void]

with how much you yap about "your supports" i would intentionally play dogshit just for you

[uncut dirge]

this one isn't ultrabad

just not as good as it could be

[ebon snow]

Yeah was about to yap

[uncut dirge]

meanwhile other party has a nice 90-99-65-43

[ebon snow]

A bard?

[uncut dirge]

ye

[ebon snow]

Damn

[uncut dirge]

i had this bro on wednesday

[ebon snow]

Then your supp was a gamer girl

[charred void]

looks like me in brel when i have to free people from freeze because they don't know how to press G

[uncut dirge]

oh yeah

[burnt tree]

wait did i outheal the bard?

[uncut dirge]

this supp came with the "1500 cp lobby"

[charred void]

bards don't heal?

[burnt tree]

they dont?

[charred void]

why would they

[autumn ridge]

in case anyones interested

some random gifs i made to show someone BT's Z speed differences when chained with attacks vs not
https://imgur.com/a/QpQxozn
https://imgur.com/a/tJ6jxpN

[charred void]

that "healer" is probably just from his orb

[uncut dirge]

has to be a real dire situation for bard to heal

[burnt tree]

ew berserker stuff

[burnt tree]

a

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-alexis-rose-one-job-are-you-serious-are-you-kidding-me-gif-17932444

[ebon snow]

All i see is a zerk dancing like a ballerina

[autumn ridge]

you mean use T-skill healing orb effect?

[autumn ridge]

it do be feel that way sometime
especially if skill resets are involved

[burnt tree]

yes

also why does one person have to get grabbed in p2 of Skolakia every time?

[swift tree]

so you can farm the achievement

[burnt tree]

bruh i already have it

[swift tree]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/919165558560260096/1078473907486609528/lava.gif

[quiet flower]

He killed us all at 1hp

Except for the Paladin

Sorc died second after snapshot

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/draco-malfoy-harry-potter-mewing-mew-slytherin-gif-8263298459687914233

[quiet flower]

Nice password

[robust forge]

shhhhush

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/dumbledore-frustrated-harry-potter-i-give-up-gif-3482214

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/harrypotter-dumbledore-lol-snape-dancing-gif-5158684

[autumn ridge]

i want to like 'luck' but it takes so long for the effect to kick in when it does trigger hmm
https://imgur.com/a/pL6PbCQ

[quiet flower]

First time seeing entire G3 HM fight alive

[autumn ridge]

Adrenaline?

[quiet flower]

Crushing Fist

How much are these wings worth

[autumn ridge]

2 sidereals

[quiet flower]

[safe lark]

depends how much ppl want it

[quiet flower]

Never seen them drop before

So idk what people bid

[tulip charm]

i have NEVER seen this yet

[safe lark]

we had it for 60 i think

[tulip charm]

how much did the auction go for?

[quiet flower]

Just about to bid

[charred void]

go for it if you want to cosplay a gay fairy

[quiet flower]

[autumn ridge]

what? you don't have a "must be this gay to enter" sign at your stronghold? pleb

[quiet flower]

2 wings in 1 run

[burnt tree]

like 100k

damn cheap

[quiet flower]

Pretty

[autumn ridge]

that's just the normal entrance right, the VIP entrance is ayaya only i'm sure

[burnt tree]

[charred void]

[safe lark]

i dont remember which one Arna got

there are two pair of wings from auction

[charred void]

pov: you're helicopter cat see wing auction and hear in background THEY ARE SO PRETTY I MUST HAVE THEM GIVE ME GOLD

[safe lark]

almost right

but she had gold

[crimson light]

[autumn ridge]

obligatory clickbaity picture a friend sent me

insert Guys which one should i pick? comment here
||They obviously picked engraving book one||

The engravings

[charred void]

only 1 kek blunt huh

[autumn ridge]

at least they got explosive expert!

[sharp rock]

I mean Thats 210k ish Not Bad

[quiet flower]

wtf

Aegir HM no one put scythe

Oh someone did but they were blocked

I guessed it right though

@cosmic flame What logs did you wanna see again

[brave gazelle]

Which wings are these?

[fresh flint]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-zoning-out-cat-stare-black-cat-black-cat-tiktok-stare-gif-6568742496074847242

[quiet flower]

G3 Mordum auction

[brave gazelle]

🥹 thank you

[fresh flint]

How much they went for?

[swift tree]

pretty even split across the board

[quiet flower]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1416388494141558824/image.png?ex=68c6aa14&is=68c55894&hm=89bc57d085cc2b8aa655d5358bcdbe292c67f47fa3772de21e88ceddbc5699d6&

[swift tree]

watermelon wings

[naive nimbus]

Hi guys, i have a dps, which refinement bonusses are better for ancient accesosies?

[dull obsidian]

[swift tree]

atk/weapon %

[naive nimbus]

Im doubting between atk power % or raw atk power or weapon power % or weapon power in earings

[dull obsidian]

raw is bad

when compared to %

[naive nimbus]

Okay

And for rings?

[dull obsidian]

c.dmg c.rate

[quiet flower]

Crit Rate/Crit Damage % on rings

Weapon Power % / Attack Power % on earrings

Outgoing % / Additional % on neck

Those are what you want to focus on

[naive nimbus]

In that order?

[quiet flower]

Nah just overall

Mid/Mid earrings are around 75-80k
Earrings are around 125-130k

Not sure about necks tbh

[dull obsidian]

I mean hes NAE

high single lines are 60-70k

[quiet flower]

Ah

This is EUC prices

[naive nimbus]

Because i saw an earing, with legendary atk power %, atk power and wp power

With legendary atk power%

In that case it should be good, dont you think?

[dull obsidian]

gold for the poor

[quiet flower]

What was the price?#

[naive nimbus]

120k

[dull obsidian]

not worth

[quiet flower]

Same one on EU is 111k

With no recent sales

Remove Atk Power + Weapon Power and it goes down to 80k

[naive nimbus]

But in this case was atk power % in gold, atk power in epic and weapon power in blue

[dull obsidian]

yeah

flat lines

are shit

[quiet flower]

Raw stats don't matter in quality tbh

[naive nimbus]

Im just asking to push further my power level

Don't really interested in sales

Although it could be a nice profit

[dull obsidian]

this was the math

when we were 1640

those flats have gone down

a lot

its a 0.29% increase on a 1680

for high atk power flat

[quiet flower]

You'd get more value with 2x Purple % lines

[swift tree]

because of the sheer amount you get from gear tiers now

[swift tree]

if your base atk power is 250,000 and you increase it by 1.55% that's 3,875
which is 10x the flat amount

[quiet flower]

But I could add 390 to make it 250,390

[naive nimbus]

And its impossible to get both %

Or there is a possibility

[storm bronze]

[swift tree]

it's entirely possible

[quiet flower]

[naive nimbus]

Like 3 weeks without spending gold to get that amount

Impossible for me right now

[dull obsidian]

I mean..

you aren't supposed to buy them

[naive nimbus]

Well, i think i should keep on where i stand

I recently reach 1700 with my first character

And dont want to be a charge in mordum hm

I got 1769 power level

That's why im asking ways of improving my character

[quiet flower]

High/Highs aren't worth it until there's nothing else worth buying

Better off buying Relic Books

[dull obsidian]

the math is so against high/highs

its better to attempt to roll a mid 5 liner bracelet

LMAO

https://tenor.com/view/shirakami-fubuki-yabe-yabai-oh-no-danger-gif-24727510

[stark sky]

I have 5 liner bracelets

[dull obsidian]

stfu

I just chomped up like 240 pheons in the last few weeks

buying cheap 2 stat + 3 open lines

[stark sky]

The ai bracelet calc says my 4.5 line alt bracelet is better than maun

[dull obsidian]

and didn't get shit

[stark sky]

Stupid ai

[swift tree]

well fuck maun, and their bracelets

[quiet flower]

It's rigged so you buy high stats

[dull obsidian]

real

[quiet flower]

[dull obsidian]

I had a really high stat bracelet

and didn' tget anything

[quiet flower]

Or just cut like my Slayer

[dull obsidian]

it was 110 crit 108 spec

[naive nimbus]

That's mine, if it has crit it would be better

I'm a berserker

[stark sky]

that's pretty terrible im ngl

If you're even looking at high highs you shouldn't be having that

[quiet flower]

My main's bracelet

[naive nimbus]

Oh

[dull obsidian]

a lot better than mine

[stark sky]

Noobu

[dull obsidian]

my mains

https://tenor.com/view/vtuber-leagueoflegends-league-of-legends-noob-wtf-gif-14118275703394871787

[naive nimbus]

That's my entire loadout

[cinder mango]

[naive nimbus]

Humble

[naive nimbus]

Still sucks against 2900 power level 1700

[stark sky]

the calc said the 2nd is my best bracelet

When I have that one on the left

I also have another 5 liner I'm pretty sure is better than the 2nd one

[dull obsidian]

?

2900 combat 1700 seems impossible

[stark sky]

2900 is basically a maxed 1700

Dk wtf ur expectations are

[dull obsidian]

no like

its literally impossible

at 1700

maybe 1720

[stark sky]

Really

[dull obsidian]

2900

[stark sky]

My alts are at like 2.1k with garbage accessories

[dull obsidian]

yeh

even if you get them full high lows + full books

you are capping like 2500-2600

[stark sky]

High highs

Full 10s

[dull obsidian]

ok yeh even then

[quiet flower]

Worst bracelet on my roster

[stark sky]

Full books

[dull obsidian]

you are not reaching 2900

ilvl inflates combat so much

[stark sky]

My alts aren't done w karma either

They're all 1/6/6

[dull obsidian]

ye its not much to finish evo

all the power comes from adding nodes

[stark sky]

[dull obsidian]

I think if you

are

AH 30 1700
5x high-high-high
50 set bix elixir
full books (MI relic to inflate
21/25/21
giga 5 line brace

you might come close to 2900

but no one has this and is sitting at 1700

you would be 1750

lmao

[stark sky]

kyarufry

[dull obsidian]

[quiet flower]

My Slayer is 1.6k at 1700

But only has event gems

[dull obsidian]

my blade with 0/3/1 karma

is 1900 at 1700

[quiet flower]

+20 AH

[dull obsidian]

but I'm gem inflated

[stark sky]

U fat

[quiet flower]

Same on my SH at 1700

[stark sky]

@dull obsidian

Armor 300k raw gold on avg per tap

[dull obsidian]

YEH

[stark sky]

6.6k abidos

[dull obsidian]

I am not going past 23

btw

hf

[stark sky]

Wait that's worst case for abidos

2.7k abidos for avg

[dull obsidian]

dude this skin is so ass..

when can we have a real bunny girl outfit

[stark sky]

Wait I can shrink the gold cost in half if I have 2.2k glaciers

I think I do

[dull obsidian]

I'm currently tapping with glaciers to 22

lmao

and roster bound gold

[stark sky]

Me too

I should stop tapping enligtenment

And tap armor instead huh

[dull obsidian]

?

[stark sky]

They're both tiny dmg increases idk which is more

[dull obsidian]

what are you tapping to

30?

[stark sky]

29 right now

LOL

[dull obsidian]

lmao

I'm 21/25/21

I might go like 27 at most

[stark sky]

I'm like 21/28/26 I think

[dull obsidian]

better shit to spend my gold on

[stark sky]

I've only used char bound gold on karma

[dull obsidian]

my char bound gold goes to honing armor

[stark sky]

I think I stop at karma 29

[dull obsidian]

[stark sky]

Then go armor full 24

[dull obsidian]

24?

[stark sky]

And free tap to 25

Until Kaz is out

[dull obsidian]

[stark sky]

Then I full push

[dull obsidian]

24 is... a joke

LOL

23 -> 24 literally double price

[stark sky]

ya

It's same price as 25 almost

It's not that expensive since I have all mats though

[dull obsidian]

"all mats"

mbt

[stark sky]

Paradise op

We need unnerfed paradise btw

[dull obsidian]

my all mats in question

[stark sky]

People acting like they haven't saved millions of gold from paradise alr

[dull obsidian]

and this is my roster stash atm

Im so giga broke lmao

[stark sky]

Im pretty sure I've saved more gold from paradise than I've made from raiding

Since the release of the system

[next sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-6419220040799003458

[dull obsidian]

a character on avg at 1640

earns more gold from paradise per week than raw gold 1700 chars

???

[stark sky]

Didn't need nerfs btw

People r so clueless

My main alone has saved almost 5m gold from paradise

now I'm rank 1 I get even more keys

[midnight drift]

GS PM budget option

[stark sky]

if ur not a noob it works

[midnight drift]

yeah need to dodge

[dull obsidian]

poor player getting some more gold

mug blessing me up with a good run

[stark sky]

Fk u

[dull obsidian]

@open salmon

you goat

taunt boss

gives me 20k

what more can I ask for

[stark sky]

I only get 10k fate embers

Zzzz

[dull obsidian]

I got a 10 and 20k today

and a 200k 3 days ago

[stark sky]

I got 10kx3 in this month

That's it

[dull obsidian]

erm..

I got like

[stark sky]

[dull obsidian]

600k gold from fate embers this month?

[stark sky]

fuck u

[dull obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/shirakami-fubuki-yabe-yabai-oh-no-danger-gif-24727510

[cinder mango]

[stark sky]

Every fate ember I get is small honing chest

[dull obsidian]

by month i mean last 31 days

..

mb

[stark sky]

Or epic selector

Or card exp

[dull obsidian]

er

I get a lot of silver

lmao

[stark sky]

I don't even see embers that often

[dull obsidian]

I rerolled my gems back and forth on my roster so many times

and I am still above 300m

?

and I am doing it again this week

[stark sky]

U pig

🐷

[cosmic flame]

The failed g1 pulls

[dull obsidian]

[autumn ridge]

a little easier to maintain the silver with the paradise weeklies too if you prioritize that

[charred void]

can we finally post meter with names now?

[autumn ridge]

revised 'lopang' strat i use on alts if i wanted silver

[dull obsidian]

wtf nerf soulfist?!

its not an identity + t gap or anything

[open salmon]

[quiet flower]

It's a 6-SF roster player

[cosmic flame]

what even is your support

your paladin wasn't human

[quiet flower]

Just did a NM run where we killed G3 before 2nd stage break

[cosmic flame]

I'll never understand people blaming a dps when you have a handicapped support

you're almost seeing solo mode dps numbers

[quiet flower]

It's pretty wild just how much difference a Support makes

[cosmic flame]

he doesn't buff

low brand

0% identity

wasn't incapped for a single second

where stagger

[fresh flint]

Waow that’s not bad

[quiet flower]

We have a ghost in here

2 kek reacts but only Mokoko reacted

[fresh flint]

Wdf ghost

[quiet flower]

from the 2nd pull

[cosmic flame]

what is his g3 clear uptime

it would be impossible to be low

[quiet flower]

Will check after aegir

[fresh flint]

A paladin. Of course.

[cosmic flame]

[velvet flicker]

I’m glad I alt+f4ed

[quiet flower]

[velvet flicker]

I was hitting 1.8b DD, for refrence trixion is 1.2-1.4b

That’s just beyond depressing

[cosmic flame]

woah who leaked my bard gameplay

[velvet flicker]

😂😂

[cosmic flame]

my bard would diff everyone

frfr

[quiet flower]

You never want to see me on a Support

[cosmic flame]

🔥

[velvet flicker]

See, we did that on HM, except that we had a HUMAN sup

[quiet flower]

@velvet flicker So you were the guy who said quick relog then alt-f4'd in the run

[cosmic flame]

you're just too spoiled by our paladin

[velvet flicker]

I alt F4ed the 3rd run, 3 chances is more than enough to prove it wasn’t just a bad run

[quiet flower]

Next time just do a quit vote

[velvet flicker]

Meh I closed the game

[cosmic flame]

next week 3c HM @velvet flicker

[velvet flicker]

Fug off

[cosmic flame]

woajh

tbh deserved

this is what you get for skipping hw

[velvet flicker]

Do you think I care 👀

[quiet flower]

They all reported him in that lobby for afking

[velvet flicker]

As if

[cosmic flame]

nah I know its whatever

[zenith canyon]

decent quali

free 40cp for supp

[velvet flicker]

Should’ve reported the pala for afk gameplay

[velvet flicker]

Do u wanna do my raids

[quiet flower]

One blue, declined

[velvet flicker]

Got 18 left

[zenith canyon]

[cosmic flame]

i don't know how to sorc

[velvet flicker]

Just mash buttons bro and you will mvp

[cosmic flame]

I didn't even

finish mine

[velvet flicker]

Build meter use meter

[cosmic flame]

[velvet flicker]

Its literally a mini SE

[cosmic flame]

yea I expect its a mini fmh

I wanna pilot an emperor account

that class is actually fun

[velvet flicker]

Try my main

[quiet flower]

You want to get RSI?

[velvet flicker]

Blue said he will do my dailies and raids

And didn’t do shit :-:

Last week he pulled a scam on me

anlacky

[cosmic flame]

I already have it

[cosmic flame]

gege

I don't think I have enough energy

to even finish my raids

brel aegir burnout is real

[velvet flicker]

xd

I’ve been only doing our HW 4x Mordums and logging off

but even that

I am skipping nowadays

[cosmic flame]

I just force myself on wed

to finish as much as I can

[velvet flicker]

Haven’t done dailies in a month

[cosmic flame]

by the time we finish 4 HW mordums

I just stop

[velvet flicker]

Only thing I do is hell xd

Same literally

I hope the 4x strike raid gets us hooked back

And we can drop fucking aegir

[quiet flower]

Oh I only have 1 raid left

Thought I had more

[velvet flicker]

free 2m a week

[cosmic flame]

TRUST

IN YORGH

[velvet flicker]

I do

[cosmic flame]

I wonder if I can get someone to lend me

two 10s next week mordum

I'm trying something in fmh

[velvet flicker]

You in elpon?

[cosmic flame]

also you saw that bracelet

nah ratik

[velvet flicker]

Ye

rip

[cosmic flame]

if I hit the last line

I still have 3 tickets

it would be insane, I actually do need that crit if I wanna do this new stuff

[velvet flicker]

I want kazeros just so I can enjoy my bracelet

xd

[cosmic flame]

rn I have around 91.xx% without

[velvet flicker]

The 2.5% line

[quiet flower]

Apply for Aegir, got declined the milisecond I applied

[cosmic flame]

with it its almost 95% crit

[velvet flicker]

Damn

With critical?

[cosmic flame]

yes

and syn + sup crit syn

that flames has

[velvet flicker]

Fuck u

With keen sense?

[cosmic flame]

guess what

no

[velvet flicker]

or limit break

fuck u

[cosmic flame]

it drops my gauge build up

[cosmic flame]

from 16s to 12-13 if I land rng

[velvet flicker]

holy

[cosmic flame]

I did some testing last night with tras in drex without abusing the fucking stupid counters

on avg I gained 1+ dlm cpm

[velvet flicker]

Woah

Thats huge

[cosmic flame]

its an insane

increase

yes

if we don't get NE buffs next week

imma try it

[velvet flicker]

If u were in elpon u could’ve used my gems but rip

[cosmic flame]

I'm a stupid silly rat

what can do

[velvet flicker]

Switch server

[cosmic flame]

I don't know anyone in ratik

[velvet flicker]

:-:

I know a lot of whales in ratik

As a matter of fact

My “sidereal energy” friend list group are all from ratik

Literally all xd

Theres evv

Squadiko

[cosmic flame]

vouch me for 8 cd gems

[velvet flicker]

Infester

[cosmic flame]

just for main run

[velvet flicker]

Theres the other SE

Layla

[cosmic flame]

or 7 cd 1 dmg

[velvet flicker]

Theres abreldom

[cosmic flame]

either is fine

[velvet flicker]

Well I have evv account so hes probably the only one who might be willing to do it

But I haven’t talked to him in a while xd

• sorc only uses 6

[cosmic flame]

I don't have a sorc actually

I can't roll his gems back

[velvet flicker]

rip

Actually

I should try parsing with his sorc one day

And I give u sidereal buffs

[cosmic flame]

get me loaner gems

[velvet flicker]

And flames

[cosmic flame]

and log into his account

why are we yapping here

[velvet flicker]

Its on my other pc thats in Kuwait 😂

[cosmic flame]

go dm

[velvet flicker]

Sure

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[prime briar]

Do we need a specific build for paradise now that u can die or any work and just dont be greedy

[swift magnet]

[velvet flicker]

Chat

Is it haram to look at pixelated boobs in game

[swift magnet]

nope

[cinder mango]

we just did it

[swift magnet]

😭

[cinder mango]

no more gold

[swift magnet]

need it

the 200k from yesterday gone already xD

[burnt tree]

[thorny olive]

He's fomoing 6 chars to 1720

[thorny olive]

It's just gooner behavior

[swift magnet]

sorc growing a bit

[thorny olive]

Whale roster

[velvet flicker]

Im a gooner

[velvet flicker]

Cute

[swift magnet]

slayer checking out dansi

[thorny olive]

Dansi not amused

[swift magnet]

[kind lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/amelia-watson-vtuber-meme-idk-gif-7018669164018756507

[burnt tree]

Whale roster

Almost 7 1700+s

https://tenor.com/view/noa-pajama-blue-archive-angry-skill-gif-7704635827689755866

[swift magnet]

[swift magnet]

would be a 1660-1680 roster if i buy stuff from ah xD

[burnt tree]

[zenith canyon]

[midnight drift]

sure unless you have not had maxed this

[zenith canyon]

i need this shitter

2 more

he just dont like me

[velvet flicker]

Im slacking on that last 2 :-:

[fresh flint]

Whale

[final sable]

gigawhale

[swift magnet]

i dont have a 1755 😛

so not giga 😄

[final sable]

W RMT

[swift magnet]

[thorny olive]

It's plenty

[cosmic flame]

he didn't hone because I didn't

he loves me too much

[velvet flicker]

Ikr

[cosmic flame]

we

are almost mathcing besties

fund my last 4 ilvl kat

[velvet flicker]

Also Yorgh sold his gems and goned his alts because of me

He loves me so much

[final sable]

2 1720s is enough for me

[thorny olive]

You're the one with 20m worth of books, not me

[cosmic flame]

leak your storage books

[thorny olive]

Yeah I'll have a 2nd one before strike raid

[cosmic flame]

you have 60 adrens

[final sable]

same

[cosmic flame]

there

[final sable]

prob gonna hone valk there

since i dont enjoy playing artist anymore

[cosmic flame]

central bank of euc

[thorny olive]

Nyo, they are filled with spider webs

[cosmic flame]

kat

yes yes sure

[cosmic flame]

[velvet flicker]

Im just a girl

[kind lotus]

omg my first time as mvp in skolakia

mokoko strenght

[thorny olive]

[velvet flicker]

Yorgh is actually my bf

[thorny olive]

Dunno what to do with them