lost-ark-discussions

[ancient oasis]

go bracelet

[granite gazelle]

cooked

[ancient oasis]

bracelet way better

[meager breach]

i see, tyty

[wise pasture]

8 ancients and 2 from ember on the same char now

[ember crag]

why are pictures not being sent wtf

[swift tree]

It seems to spawn every 3

[ancient oasis]

so is the meta just save 1 extra key each week

[wise pasture]

3rd ember on the same char

[vapid bluff]

what the heck is the new key

[ancient oasis]

has level eight gems and stuff inside

[vapid bluff]

????

Just for free?

[granite gazelle]

I got an altar on my first key first floor and then another altar on my second key third floor

[midnight drift]

lol i am looking for these lv8 gem

[ancient oasis]

well its rng

[ember crag]

What is this even?

[ancient oasis]

Daily quest

in north kurzan

[ember crag]

ah

una tasks

[ancient oasis]

"reputation" is daily quest

[quiet flower]

Yes, go get it

[mystic basin]

Where do you get that from

[ancient oasis]

they also have a shit mecahnic where everytime you land on even floor you insta die and fail the run

[dull obsidian]

I mean

eh

the rewards are op

[quiet flower]

Depends on the key

[ancient oasis]

Hell theres an altar that lets you upgrade key or fail and downgrade

[quiet flower]

One is Even, one is Odd

[dull obsidian]

just don't miss

[granite gazelle]

wtf

[vapid bluff]

They really do just want to make Paradise the most RNG thing possibly conceived

[fresh flint]

Wait we got the paradise update already?

[ancient oasis]

Yes

[quiet flower]

Should be considering the rewards

[dull obsidian]

I mean when the rewards are

[fresh flint]

wtf

[dull obsidian]

literally in them millions worth of gold

[ember crag]

How fast can I do the 2 bloodclaw things?

[vapid bluff]

more importatnly why do we not have

[dull obsidian]

if its not rng as fuck

[vapid bluff]

patch notes

[dull obsidian]

thatsk inda weird

[fresh flint]

Wait they even gave us the gems and shit???

[vapid bluff]

level 8 gems

[fresh flint]

That’s insane

[dull obsidian]

yeh if you can get to like floor 60 on frost/fire key

not only are you rolling 50/50s to die/live

[fresh flint]

I have no faith in my ability to do that lol

[slender sky]

guess valk chest is set

[dull obsidian]

you are also rolling the normal floor drops

[celest tiger]

Gems in Paradise? 👀

[ancient oasis]

relic book to

[wise pasture]

[vapid bluff]

Do we know the key droprate

[fresh flint]

Yeah level 8 t4s but it’s giga rng

[dull obsidian]

yeh but atleast the relic books can be found on every level

[slender sky]

yea new keys can roll gems/cards/engravings

[ancient oasis]

yea from special key and like floor 60 if you get it on a 1680 key is like 3 level eight bound gems

[dull obsidian]

30% atm if you get the altar

[celest tiger]

Ah ok 👍

[dull obsidian]

you put a key in

[celest tiger]

Cool beans 😎

[dull obsidian]

it either upgrades, downgrades or turns into a red or blue key

[devout nymph]

you can enjoy the 4 lvl8gems, i grab the 80 relic engravings and finish my adr with one run

[vapid bluff]

SOBS?

[devout nymph]

[vapid bluff]

IM SORRY?

[celest tiger]

I'll have to try it later this evening after work 😭

[vapid bluff]

DID U SAY 80 RELIC ENGRAVINGS

[ember crag]

North kurzan field boss is visited often r?

[quiet flower]

80x random Relic Engravings, yes

[vapid bluff]

what the fuck

[quiet flower]

The odds of you even getting to the floor that drops it are basically 0

[devout nymph]

think about frog that gives you 4/6. now think about how much 80 is in comparison

[celest tiger]

So similar to the mega lucky spawn in cube

[quiet flower]

Even less likely probably

[celest tiger]

Maybe less chance

[cosmic flame]

[empty sleet]

well most people wont ever see that floor. Jump has a chance of dying right

[devout nymph]

nah its like 0.1% or something, more likely higher isnce it doesnt add lucky floors and extra life into it

[dull obsidian]

floor 100 on the frost fire key

gives 500 epic-leg cards

lmao?

[cosmic flame]

me?

of course!

[dull obsidian]

500 is kinda a crazy number

[ember crag]

How rare is this?

[dull obsidian]

on avg 100 leg card packs

[meager breach]

i love getting free shit from something that didnt impact me

[swift tree]

whelp I gambad frog and suffered

[cosmic flame]

real

[swift tree]

15 kill pity

[quiet flower]

You say it like the odds of hitting floor 100 is gonna be even close to achievable

[ember crag]

Oh

but

it's a daily reward right?

[dull obsidian]

I mean

[swift tree]

yes so 15 days

[dull obsidian]

it just takes 1 person to get that

[fresh flint]

Don’t worry I will also have the suffering after work

[dull obsidian]

and they pretty much finish cards

lmao

[swift tree]

Vital Hit + Super Charge

[dull obsidian]

it will happen to people

[fresh flint]

[uncut dirge]

another 60% buff uptime support

what the fuck is this

[ember crag]

Hmm

[swift tree]

make 1/4 of the gold back

[quiet flower]

Maybe 2 or 3

[wise pasture]

what kind of garbage lobbies you joining?

[ember crag]

Where is field boss even in north kurzan?

[quiet flower]

Like I run Hell on 29 characters, that's on average 87 keys a week, and I've only hit floor 100 four times

[dull obsidian]

yeh you are

so giga ill

[quiet flower]

Yes, that's why I play this game

[dull obsidian]

tf you even doign 29 chars on

alt rosters?

[quiet flower]

No

[cinder mango]

okay

[quiet flower]

I'm not a rat

[cinder mango]

because you're a bald.

[dull obsidian]

wtf is the point

[quiet flower]

For fun

Duh

[mystic basin]

I was lied to i didn't get any new hell key

[dull obsidian]

of going past 7 chars

[quiet flower]

I work from home so I have infinite time

[mystic basin]

[granite gazelle]

Tough luck

[quiet flower]

I did

[ember crag]

I don't see field boss symbol anywhere for north kurzan

[swift tree]

Abidos Garrison it only shows up on Field Boss days

[quiet flower]

Boss spawns here

[ember crag]

And today aint

[ember crag]

Ahh

[wise pasture]

not bad

[ember crag]

I see

[uncut dirge]

idk but they are so trash

i'm like 99% sure this artist doesnt' know what the red ball does

[cinder mason]

valk luck in a nutshell lol

[ember crag]

70% should be reachable no?

[wise pasture]

with that kind of uptime, probably

[ember crag]

without rapport and all food items

[stark cobalt]

not bad

[kind lotus]

now it says that the keys are transmutable

[mystic basin]

Do you only get it from doing hell?

[dull obsidian]

?

I don't have a key

[wise pasture]

well F to the altar

[mystic basin]

Same must be bugged

[dull obsidian]

48h..

soon

[burnt tree]

Well the new stuff are a bit bugged

[uncut dirge]

i swear

[dull obsidian]

[uncut dirge]

im gonna start demanding uwu logs from supports

how ar ethey so shit

[quiet flower]

[quiet flower]

Nice meme

Supports have it easier

[wise pasture]

dude playing with his toes on 1950 writer I bet

[sage jay]

what is legacy random chest in hell

[upbeat iron]

its the materials for paradise

for restoration and resonance

[quiet flower]

It's random

Because you accept the rats

[mystic basin]

Still no hell key this shit is a scam

[burnt tree]

[quiet flower]

3rd 10k today

[burnt tree]

If you embrace Kekboi-ism you will get da key

[burnt tree]

Undeserved

[covert remnant]

Got the altar on last key💀
TF am I supposed to do with it

[vapid bluff]

no more crit fishing

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-emergency-death-impostor-gif-21161291

[quiet flower]

Ikr, I deserve 200ks

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-tucker-rush-hour-gif-5591386184877786553

[quiet flower]

[swift tree]

with 58 characters you deserve professional help

[quiet flower]

You say that like I'm not highly medicated

[swift tree]

not high enough dosage

[quiet flower]

Also where did you get 58 characters from

I run 29

[coral hull]

Me acepting the 2400 1720 supp, the supp: 70/70/20

[swift tree]

you siad 58 earlier

[slender sky]

solid build

[swift tree]

chaos?

[coral hull]

Rare elixirs?

[coral hull]

The 2/1 pant elixir

[quiet flower]

I said I saved Armen 58 times; 2 per character?

Do you forget we saved him literally at the start of the game

[coral hull]

[wise pasture]

even my offroster rats at 1660-1670 tend to have more

[slender sky]

no

[mystic basin]

Still no hell key

[covert remnant]

Omfg........
I got the same chest options on all three keys!!!!
Silver/honing support/bracelet

[quiet flower]

Rekt

[vapid bluff]

i wanted full ancient

[swift tree]

yeah took a sec

[coral hull]

Literally a sec

[swift tree]

if you're not in top 10, skill issue

[lunar hedge]

Can you be the Hell Key to my Fusion Material Chests

[swift tree]

I'll be your Legacy Material Chest to my Nether Key of Destiny

[quiet flower]

Distant and never shows up?

[swift magnet]

[mystic basin]

Ye but I rather get that hell key

[swift tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893269320791101480/1404945419963863121/LIZARD-4x.gif

tapping hell keys

[uncut dirge]

i never really raid on wednesday day time

this might be the worst group i've ever seen that can clear

[mystic basin]

I even got 81 on a blue key

still no key

[swift tree]

finally one I can use

OwO

[lunar hedge]

OHHHHH

[swift tree]

hidden achievement

[vapid bluff]

oh thats a new chst

[swift tree]

wish me luck

[vapid bluff]

You cant even enter it

its disabled

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[swift tree]

bruh

[dull obsidian]

bro

idk

I get more angry and angry

[swift tree]

lol

[dull obsidian]

at our community

[vapid bluff]

u can get paradise gains in hell now

[dull obsidian]

full of so many geniuses..

[swift tree]

ppl on reddit bitching about it?

[vapid bluff]

[uncut dirge]

yeah wednesday lobbies are way worse than tuesday lobbies

holy shit

i've never seen players this bad

[dull obsidian]

No theres a thread that

people don't want to transmute their keys

because of possible downgrade

so I told them "just don't use the altar then?"

"ARE YOU TELLING ME NOT TO RUN HELL KEYS?!"

[ancient oasis]

Yea you dont have to use it

[swift tree]

almost like thats the Risk to the Reward

[ancient oasis]

i mean you can get like 2 million gold worth of rewards from that key

[vapid bluff]

bound tho right

[ancient oasis]

or you can bust its a gamba

[ancient oasis]

well everything in paradise is bound

[swift tree]

ofc it is

[vapid bluff]

me omw to get level 8 bound gems on my 6th alt that i leave at 1620

[swift tree]

relic books arent character bound though >:3

[ancient oasis]

but if you get relic books to complete one thats a roster level reward

[swift tree]

think its 1640+

[uncut dirge]

idk if they're worth it even then

[quiet flower]

It'll probably be 1680+

[vapid bluff]

oh you can just get every elysian reward

from hell

[quiet flower]

Ancient

[vapid bluff]

honestly for a level 7 chest this is kinda shit lol

[granite gazelle]

I got like three relics from a 6 chest

Luck issue

[swift tree]

looks about same as a good Elysian 7 roll

[vapid bluff]

you're supposed to get way more than 1 relic from a good elysian 7

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[vapid bluff]

oh wait 7

its too early for me ignore me

[swift tree]

[quiet flower]

[sharp rock]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-gif-23856371

[swift tree]

link

[dull obsidian]

top post

in officialcord

[slender sky]

its the same ppl crying that gem prices went up after rushing to exchange all their cube tickets for hell keys

[ancient oasis]

its new so i have to use it

people can never be happy

[uncut dirge]

50% chance to fail

per floor

[tulip charm]

apparently the gem rewards is only possible after floor 80

good luck indeed

[quiet flower]

This is your fault for communicating with the Degens in that Discord

[uncut dirge]

0.5^5 = 0.03125

[ancient oasis]

ok then just dont use the altar

[dull obsidian]

I mean thats some giga raw math lmao

[ancient oasis]

to upgrade your keys

[dull obsidian]

you also have 2 lives

not including special floors either

[uncut dirge]

yes

the real numbers are WAY worse

because those 5 descents on average will put you at floor like 53

[coral hull]

What IS this meth

[ancient oasis]

then just dont do it

[tulip charm]

i am pissed i coudn't even get a new key

[swift tree]

card packs or relic books is still nice

[dull obsidian]

the math on being able to live all 5 floors in a row

if you are not including anything

[tulip charm]

i found 2 altars, put in 2 blue keys, got 2 legendary keys, got shit from both

[swift tree]

If you're at crucible 10, there's a good chance you'll live

[dull obsidian]

what?

[swift tree]

?

[prime briar]

They already nerfed hell keys ? I got hell key key of destiny instead of normal ones

[dull obsidian]

no its literally just kills you

[uncut dirge]

but gambling is probably worth it just for better keys

[dull obsidian]

there is no way to dodge it

you just watch some fucking totem 1 hit you

[swift tree]

where are you seeing that?

[dull obsidian]

CN streamers?

[swift tree]

that could be one of the bugs maybe?

[dull obsidian]

no

[uncut dirge]

that's how it's supposed to work

if you get to an odd floor you die

[dull obsidian]

if you have a red key you need to land on odd numbers

[quiet flower]

[dull obsidian]

or you die

[uncut dirge]

the other key if you get to an even floor you die

[swift tree]

rip

[dull obsidian]

and vice versa for a frost key

[coral hull]

Imagine getting a relic fire key

[covert remnant]

Wait we can get legendary keys? I thought they change to fire or ice

[dull obsidian]

its random

[vapid bluff]

you can upgrade, downgrade, or get the new key

[coral hull]

U have a 0.001953125 prob to win

[dull obsidian]

it can upgrade/downgrade ro change into a fire or ice key

[ancient oasis]

no they can either upgrade to purple or legendary downgrade to a green or grey or turn into fire or ice

[swift tree]

up down or sideways, sideways is a change to fire/frost or nether

[coral hull]

Answer him all the same more times

Im getting popcorn

[swift tree]

Answer him all the same more times

[coral hull]

Exactly

[swift tree]

Answer him all the same more times

[kind lotus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PS2cJsSJrI

[swift tree]

Answer him all the same more times

[kind lotus]

Answer him all the same more times

[ancient oasis]

Hell Key of Destiny (Rare):

DOWNGRADE Hell Key of Destiny (Common) (15.0%)

DOWNGRADE Hell Key of Destiny (Uncommon) (15.0%)

UPGRADE Hell Key of Destiny (Epic) (15.0%)

UPGRADE Hell Key of Destiny (Legendary) (15.0%)

SIDEGRADE Netherworld Flame Key (Rare) (20.0%)

SIDEGRADE Netherworld Frost Key (Rare) (20.0%)

[coral hull]

Answer him all the same more times

[ancient oasis]

the sidegrades are weighted more but the downgrade/upgrade all roll the same chance

[uncut dirge]

are all the fire and ice keys rare?

or do they have grades too?

[ancient oasis]

Thats a good question

[coral hull]

depends of your actual key

[uncut dirge]

i see

[coral hull]

if u transforma relic

its a relic fire/ice key

and u have

0.001953125%

[uncut dirge]

it's ueless

[coral hull]

of chances

[celest tiger]

Transforming keys? 👀

[coral hull]

of not failing

huge

i think its only worth to transform rare keys

and maybe epics

[sharp rock]

But if u succeed ....

[kind lotus]

fall into the sunkiss

[coral hull]

imagine if u sucess 0.001953125%

[quiet flower]

[coral hull]

i think u have more chances to win the loterry

[celest tiger]

Guess I'm out then, I only get blue keys because casual

[coral hull]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-blue-hoodie-beat-up-gif-15435775

[vapid bluff]

[sharp rock]

I would go and Buy Lotto Tickets

[celest tiger]

How long did that take

[coral hull]

exactly

[vapid bluff]

what is this chance for

[sharp rock]

[coral hull]

not dying in 9 descends in fire ice keys

[vapid bluff]

you need all 9 descends for level 8 gem?

[coral hull]

no

[ancient oasis]

No

[coral hull]

u need lvl 60 i thin

[ancient oasis]

you could do it with just the 5 of a blue

its all rng

[dull obsidian]

@swift tree please stop

talking to that guy

what did he just say?

[ancient oasis]

LMAO

[dull obsidian]

"RED PORTALS WERE NOT NECESSARILY EVEN A REWARD"

please stop communicating with the apes

they might infect you

[coral hull]

i need to go there

[ancient oasis]

Ok on a supp tho it kinda was like that

[naive nimbus]

Where did you get that info?

[ancient oasis]

you could fail red portal as sup

[vapid bluff]

red portal on supp was miserable

holy fk

[dull obsidian]

you just made a semi dps build

run around for 10s to swap

you could easily kill within timeframe

[wise pasture]

you just used awakening and it died

[dull obsidian]

no you didn't

[vapid bluff]

it definitely did not die

[ancient oasis]

CN sells cube tickets and because cube tickets can be exchanged for keys they have to publish rates, its the CN rates and we have the same system

[vapid bluff]

red boss was tanky as fuck, your awakening did like

m,aybe 25% of it

[swift tree]

I've stopped now, they're hopeless

[wise pasture]

it did

[vapid bluff]

Also the boss jumps around like mad and u could miss it

[wise pasture]

if you were using the wrong build perhaps

[vapid bluff]

We arent playing the same timeframe i fear

[ancient oasis]

Yea nah awakening def did not one shot

it maybe did like 40-50% of its hp

[wise pasture]

if you say so

it is almost like preemptive strike existed

[vapid bluff]

[ancient oasis]

preemptive strike doesnt work on red portal boss

dumby

[wise pasture]

[ancient oasis]

it was a boss boss

[zenith canyon]

POG she 1660 now

[ancient oasis]

not challenge or lower

[wise pasture]

and?

[ancient oasis]

read preemptive

[dull obsidian]

even on my dps build I don't think I did more than 35% with my awakening

[vapid bluff]

Feryn i think you're just crazy

[wise pasture]

we were using it to oneshot prokel etc and I did it in chaos before but ok

[dull obsidian]

it was like a 1.5m kill though

[burnt tree]

susge

[dull obsidian]

?

you were 1 hitting g2 prokel?

as a support?

[swift tree]

In context, the person saying this was entirely missing the fucking point. That in a chaos you were forced into using the red portal and if failed, that's the whole chaos gone

[wise pasture]

bomb on SF

[ancient oasis]

with new keys its a choice if you wanna gamba or not

red portal was forced on to you yea

[red orchid]

SUS

[swift tree]

Unlike, say, instead of how current key altars work-- your current key changes

[swift tree]

exactly

[dark totem]

can an "altared key" go into altar?

[swift tree]

no

[dull obsidian]

thats not a support

[wise pasture]

it works the same way...

[burnt tree]

we love free taps

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-gif-9355968

[burnt tree]

thank you Hell

[dull obsidian]

no it doesn't?

support 1 hit awakenings don't do that much damage

and even if you use their DPS awakenings and if preemptive strike worked

it wouldn't do anything either

[granite gazelle]

wtf going into trix training ground just crashed game

[ancient oasis]

I think its totally fine for them to add more stuff to gamba on like getting 80 random relics could be huge could be meh, its just gamba, but the level eight gems is also big upgrade like idk people were complaining about gem generation they give a gamba key with gems and people still complain

[dull obsidian]

I mean bro

the chances of you even getting there is..

pretty bad

LOL

[ancient oasis]

like ofc paradise shouldnt replace cube gem generation

yea then run your cubes

[wise pasture]

just transmuted blue to legendary key

[uncut dirge]

so apparently

[ancient oasis]

if you dont want to gamba

[swift tree]

they're also all entirely RNG

[dull obsidian]

you are rolling 3 things at the same time

[ancient oasis]

then dont gamba

[uncut dirge]

apparentlydisbalance in mordum stops dealing damage at some point

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[burnt tree]

oh no

[ancient oasis]

run your cubes

[uncut dirge]

at least in mordum normal

[dull obsidian]

1. Actually dropping down between 1-20 floors per tap
2. Actually living the 50/50 per drop
3. Actually rolling the correct loot

[swift tree]

cant even roll the cubes on the new gem keys since they dont convert

[swift tree]

this

[uncut dirge]

because you will never get them

[swift tree]

aW BuT i MiSs OuT bEcAuSe AlTaR wAs BaD SpAwN

[kind lotus]

gg

[swift tree]

that same person would bitch about the death to floor levels

[ancient oasis]

then dont do them

[mortal burrow]

pog

[quiet flower]

Don't do it

[vapid bluff]

You're more likely to get a sidereal energy

[swift tree]

if they had a key

[burnt tree]

shorely

[uncut dirge]

• you need to gamba to get the key
• then you need to get to floor 80
• then you need to not die on the 6-7 descents you do to get that low

[ancient oasis]

yea and?

[uncut dirge]

like the odds are astronomical

you get what? 3 keys per week?

[vapid bluff]

Theres a reason sidereal energys are a million gold

[burnt tree]

you have 1 revive

[ancient oasis]

so is 1 tapping a +25 weapon

[uncut dirge]

so it'll only take like 3-4 years to get one success like that?

[burnt tree]

so the odds arent that bad

[ancient oasis]

but people do it

[swift tree]

Surely it's x20 Grudge, x20 KBW, x20 Raid Captain, x20 Adrenaline

[uncut dirge]

1 tapping a +25 weapon

seems MUCH more likely

floor 80 on average is 8 descents..

[burnt tree]

We didnt succeed

but its 1% chance its possible

[ancient oasis]

its not floor 80 either floor 60 on a 1680 key floor 80 on a 1640 key

[burnt tree]

regardless this was a great reset for me

+20 free tapped, +22 free tapped

[uncut dirge]

okay

floor 60 then, still 6 descents

[swift tree]

CN also had a 3rd key type, no?

[uncut dirge]

at 50% chance of dying every descent

you revive one time, sure

[swift tree]

the purple one?

[uncut dirge]

so you only gotta not die 5 descents in a row

0.5^5 = 0.03125

[burnt tree]

meow

[ancient oasis]

ez

[uncut dirge]

so you need 30 of these keys

[burnt tree]

cry about it

[swift tree]

yeah so it does spawn on 1640 huh

[burnt tree]

why wouldnt it

tsk tsk

[swift tree]

[ancient oasis]

yea the rewards are just tweaked

[lunar hedge]

Another one

[burnt tree]

why everyone got a netherworld key but i havent

[quiet flower]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[burnt tree]

is this to be mine end

[swift tree]

this is on my 7th character

[vapid bluff]

is the altar just pure rng per floor

[quiet flower]

The game is saving you from the gamba

[burnt tree]

oh i didnt do my alts yet

[swift tree]

im gambaing since this Breaker has 60k bound gold saved up

[ember crag]

is mordum gatekept similar to HM brel?

[uncut dirge]

surely the support won't suck this time

right

[stark sky]

Every gatekeep is similar

[ember crag]

So full karma and good accessoir needed?

[burnt tree]

valk time

[ancient oasis]

for NM you gotta have title pretty much

[ember crag]

what title

[stark sky]

It's based off lobby lead but you as a new player should be aiming to gear up as much as you can afford anyway

[swift tree]

pretty nice for abundant HS

[ancient oasis]

minimum chaos guardian, ease of entry abyssal punisher

[neon cedar]

[stark sky]

So yes, try to get your karma done and yes try to get decent accessories

[ancient oasis]

i got scammed again by frog

[ember crag]

are both from mordum?

[ancient oasis]

im not buying that

[ancient oasis]

Yes chaos guardian is gate 2 without using the special battle item

and abyssal punisher is 10x clear

[ancient oasis]

holy what

i did 80/99/60 in mord this week and i felt like i was playing horrible

[uncut dirge]

well the artist died twice in mordum normal

[swift tree]

what

[uncut dirge]

because he sucked

[slender goblet]

@vapid bluff do u normally do ur behes on the weekend

[uncut dirge]

and considering he could do 60 AP buff uptime in G1 while being alive

[wise pasture]

how even...

[uncut dirge]

yeah, i think this is to be expected

[fathom ore]

Do you guys get your crit rate to 119 then manually lower it when you get a crit syn or do you guys just have one build at 109 crit and leave it there when running blunt thorn?

[swift tree]

certified #notarna moment

[ember crag]

so how am I supposed to get them if they are the requirment

[swift tree]

my cats breath smells like cat food

[ancient oasis]

Join a learning/prog party

[ember crag]

fair point

[zenith canyon]

eh 1floor diff

[ancient oasis]

Mord is when theres no more free rides

because leaf doesnt exist

you now are proging

[ember crag]

Dumb question

woulnd't it be smarter

to go to 1700 to get more ancient accesoires

and have better chane on 66+ quality

[zenith canyon]

quality is still SHIT

[swift tree]

pastic

[ancient oasis]

yea i still dismantle like 90% of my accs lmao

even from HM mord and HM brel

[swift tree]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/746753831441793145/824792627534233600/image0.gif

[ember crag]

I do same for like 99%

so

that's that

[ancient oasis]

i got shafted by frog 2 weeks in a row

[dull obsidian]

[ancient oasis]

im done buying from that scammer

[quiet flower]

You say that

But you'll buy next week

[ember crag]

as will you

[ancient oasis]

im due

[quiet flower]

I know I will

I always gamba

[ancient oasis]

im due for a good book fr fr

thats what i tell myself

then nope i get scammed

[swift tree]

[ember crag]

Oh no

[burnt tree]

ure unworthy ong

[ember crag]

it has to be unbound gold??

dang it

[swift tree]

just dont praise the frog, call him out for the bitch he is.

[uncut dirge]

get 80 relic books
20x adren
20x grudge
20x cd
20x necromancy

[burnt tree]

speaking of unworthy time to get shafted

[swift tree]

x20 raid captain, x20 awakening, x20 magick stream, x20 mass increase

[dull obsidian]

[swift tree]

gib

[burnt tree]

nevermind

[swift tree]

fuck it, gamba

[ancient oasis]

lets be real its going to be like x20 lightning fury x20 disrespect x 20 necromancy x 20 shield enhancement

[burnt tree]

glory be to Brelshaza and the Haal

[ember crag]

it's not better tho r?

nvm

[quaint trench]

It is

Ancient

[burnt tree]

how is the ancient not better than legendary

Hans

[ember crag]

I thought it was other way around

[burnt tree]

sometimes i want to seperate your soul from ur body

[ember crag]

do you now?

Well

[burnt tree]

indeed

[ember crag]

good luck with that

God already has my soul

so

that's that

[slender goblet]

Lol

[burnt tree]

ah nice

valk is full ancient now

[quiet flower]

I don't even have 1 char full ancient

[burnt tree]

keke

[ember crag]

full ancient what's that?

Can I eat that?

[burnt tree]

no

[ember crag]

dang

[covert remnant]

I'm getting fked on all my hell chests....it's always bracelets/shards/honing supports or accessories

[ancient oasis]

honing support is good tho

[covert remnant]

Only on the main got one fusion chest

[ember crag]

Second lv6 gem

[ancient oasis]

i think honing support now has similar value to fusion since fusion dropped

[slender goblet]

Is it safe to run keys

[slender sky]

yes

[coarse wigeon]

? what is this

[swift magnet]

paradies gear and upgrade mats

so scammed

[charred void]

worser than silver

[slender goblet]

Wtf they implemented that today?

[zenith canyon]

i mean its nice if ur chars is 200k not 4m combat

[slender goblet]

I thought it was next week

[zenith canyon]

ya

[slender goblet]

Noooooooo

[ebon snow]

Yeah...sneaky

[zenith canyon]

maybe this was supposed to be "lvl10" thingy hidden

[charred void]

seems like china is our new publisher now

[zenith canyon]

or wtf

[swift magnet]

well sg put it in the build and surprise for ags

[ember crag]

1660 is what express was done at r?

[swift magnet]

and ags gets the shitstorm

[zenith canyon]

after that u get boxes

[ember crag]

well yes

but

not that big of boost

like transendence done

etc.

[ancient oasis]

actually some of them are

they give a decent amount of karma mats

[ember crag]

?

[zenith canyon]

not big? dude its HUGE

[slender goblet]

Rip my free taps

[ember crag]

hmm

[zenith canyon]

1700 one

its GIGA

[ember crag]

now I really wanna reach 1690

[slender goblet]

Free x30 karma

But ur mokoko leaf

[ember crag]

ik

hmm

[zenith canyon]

u hold until last week of these boxes expire

[ebon snow]

Its not huge

[zenith canyon]

its 80 karma its big

[ebon snow]

30karma 20k gold

[burnt tree]

20% my ass, this was 50% all 3 pieces +12

[zenith canyon]

heck is this shit

[ebon snow]

Nice now get top 99%

[fleet plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1391174032732323840/1415332754769313843/image.png?ex=68c2d2d8&is=68c18158&hm=1bffee5f19215eb0e97752f30cd8fb25601db3ff07dbe4b7ad21fd13dc1222f8&

My Pala is crazy lucky

lvl 15

[ember crag]

did you threaten AGS?

wtf

at what point did it only accept ancient stones?

[fleet plover]

lvl 13 - 14 - 15 asks for Ancient

[fathom ore]

Lvl 13 I think

[zenith canyon]

13/14/15

[ember crag]

dang

[coarse wigeon]

??? wats this

[zenith canyon]

umm this shit rigged with this update

[burnt tree]

[upbeat iron]

what the fuck how are you guys so lucky with elysian drops

[fleet plover]

Full ancient ... lucky mfer

[burnt tree]

yeah full ancient

[zenith canyon]

lvl10 drops ancient like 1 per try

[wise pasture]

not even 8mil

[burnt tree]

also tapped all 3 bottom pieces from 11/10/10 to 12/12/12

[upbeat iron]

nope lies, didnt happen to me

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/yujin-an-yujin-yujin-an-yujin-ive-ive-yujin-gif-25403341

[upbeat iron]

[zenith canyon]

then ur fucked

[kind lotus]

classic sathona moment

https://tenor.com/view/amelia-watson-vtuber-meme-idk-gif-7018669164018756507

[upbeat iron]

https://tenor.com/view/iu-manwol-jang-hotel-del-luna-hdl-gif-23963966

[charred void]

"i'm so unlucky - wow look guys, it's that easy"

[burnt tree]

[charred void]

ugly

[burnt tree]

shut up

im unlucky!

[sharp rock]

https://imgur.com/mYUyHze

unlucky

"unlucky"

anlaky

[burnt tree]

im unlucky lucky

i got shafted from frog today

[kind lotus]

is this filipino

[sharp rock]

wat

[ember crag]

Tf?

We went in

someone died exaclty once

and we quit whole dungeon

tf is this bs

[sharp rock]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-girl-gif-19578212

[stark sky]

People can tell if you're clueless

[ember crag]

Well

I guess?

[storm bronze]

double paradise ember on wildsoul too

[ember crag]

"How'd you know I like gojo?"

[kind lotus]

https://open.spotify.com/track/2SG5CB9CTRJalyGwwv7m0S?si=80b20aef171e484b

[kind lotus]

what a cutie

[storm bronze]

[sharp rock]

is the key transmute worth rly that low 😄
i wanna test it, but im scared losing my last key

[random ginkgo]

is strike raid gonna be biweekly

[slender sky]

no

[burnt tree]

unlucky

[brittle hawk]

This sucks lmfao

Every run except one i got that legacy chest

[burnt tree]

hmm

free taps are tempting

[zenith canyon]

they cranked that shit to be 70% in these chest this is nuts

[burnt tree]

but legacy material more paradise tappinq

[kind lotus]

legacy material?

[ember crag]

hmm

[burnt tree]

its paradise honing mats

[storm bronze]

ws so fast in crucible

[slender goblet]

im done with paradise after this update

Never doing it again

[burnt tree]

pussa

[ember crag]

I wonder what everyone is doing.

[brittle hawk]

Like im sorry my avg floor was already 50, more than half the loot was already trash (quality, silver, leaps, destro/guardian altho those are kinda ok for destro stones, accessories)

This was completely unwarranted

And ofc bracelets are kinda crap but debatable

[zenith canyon]

destr stones are GREAT what u mean?

[burnt tree]

scam no ancients

[slender goblet]

Yeah I’m happy to take those for my weapon ngl

[brittle hawk]

The amount is pathetic compared to the value of everything else but still

It is good

Ish

[zenith canyon]

4k +++ stones > silver

or dogshit leaps

[burnt tree]

atleast i got +11 on this

[brittle hawk]

Or accessories

Or chaos stones

[ember crag]

Well this seems fun.

[brittle hawk]

Brel raid is so easy in nm

I have never watched a vid but i cleared easily only thing i have a small problem with is that running around in circle thing because hitting an orb is always a hard mech

[storm bronze]

full ancient on main somehow this guy so lucky

[kind lotus]

souleater is cracked on crucible

easy to rank up

[errant fable]

[kind lotus]

do it

[errant fable]

whats that

why can i put a blue key in it

[kind lotus]

u can gamble ur current key

it either upgrades or downgrades the key

[errant fable]

wtf is this trash

4 trys

[bleak zinc]

🫡

[zenith canyon]

welp downgraded

[kind lotus]

nice downgrade

[zenith canyon]

-2/+2 it is

[kind lotus]

[bleak zinc]

[lone rampart]

how does he downgrade it ?

[round garden]

hi anyone wanna do act 2? returning player

[errant fable]

[kind lotus]

its a gamble

[storm bronze]

i got a few fire/frost key dunno what they do

[zenith canyon]

u gotta hit random or dunno Altar then put NEW key into to gamble

[kind lotus]

its for the infinite hell mode

but not available yet

[zenith canyon]

next week prolly for us

[bleak zinc]

didnt they post somewhere something with 1-2 days for a fix

[zenith canyon]

[errant fable]

good game

[zenith canyon]

it doesnt matter for me since 0 NEW NEW keys

[kind lotus]

from gamble?

[bleak zinc]

got one of those too but was the worst of my 3 keys xD

[errant fable]

yes

[kind lotus]

gg

[errant fable]

i bet the green on is better

[storm bronze]

got 96K from leg key

but my arcana got 0 fusion

[errant fable]

green

[zenith canyon]

thats nice

[kind lotus]

holy green

grass worthy

[errant fable]

ok did i miss a patch

wtf is legacy

[kind lotus]

its paradise material

[zenith canyon]

Paradise gear

[storm bronze]

guaranteed random gear

[zenith canyon]

should be renamed to PARADISE shit

[kind lotus]

amazon missed it too, we got the same stuff as china but without them knowing either

[errant fable]

any bugs

hidden kazaros raid ?

[zenith canyon]

uh not great, not terrible

[kind lotus]

u being able to transmute keys

[pulsar owl]

did they remove revives?

[burnt tree]

yes we fight lazemom

[brittle hawk]

Does cards have a lot of combat points

[zenith canyon]

where?

[grim pilot]

Is it safe to do hell or is there some bs going on?

[brittle hawk]

Like right now im 1689 and 1 full relic book and all karmas opened but untouched but i only have 1190 cp

But I'm new and have barely any cards awakened

[zenith canyon]

u gotta do ur karma

[burnt tree]

its safe otherwise we wouldnt be posting runs

[brittle hawk]

i have seen people with same karma and like 1300 cp and basically same gems

[errant fable]

shit

[zenith canyon]

u checked their accessories?

also pet bonuses

[grim pilot]

Yeah i aint reading everything buddy, just heard there was some kinda bug

[brittle hawk]

Yeah express character basically

[errant fable]

[brittle hawk]

No clue aren't pet bonuses same for everyone just different stat

[zenith canyon]

they might have Pet bonuses they can give u another 30+

[brittle hawk]

What.

[zenith canyon]

SH bonus, not like spec/crit pet

[brittle hawk]

How do you get that tho the legendary one is always dumb shit like farm or dock

[zenith canyon]

u gotta do ur shit

thar is goat

but its rng to get

[burnt tree]

we got access to the Netherworld

or well keys for it

but thats about it

it doesnt disrupt anything

[brittle hawk]

Wait does different characters have different exclusive bonus i thought it was random no matter what

[zenith canyon]

its roster wide

[brittle hawk]

So thar is always pet ranch bonus m

[burnt tree]

Pet Ranch bonus became a Pokedex or some sort

[brittle hawk]

By character I mean like thar, the arthetine girl etc

[burnt tree]

its always active

oh

shrug

[zenith canyon]

ya, theres 2 other that CAN have pet ranch rng

[grim pilot]

Aight, thank you

[zenith canyon]

this is BIG

[brittle hawk]

Ohh

Really isn't that a completely useless amount literally same as putting a skin on

[zenith canyon]

same with this

epic add is 8or more cp even

[burnt tree]

24 set vs 30 set

[brittle hawk]

By cards i mean awakening and bonus dmg etc

[zenith canyon]

he means 5* cards

[burnt tree]

oh

[zenith canyon]

not sets

[burnt tree]

who cares

just

upgrade them

[zenith canyon]

awakening gives 0 cp

[brittle hawk]

Oh so the epic - leg one never has pet ranch?

[burnt tree]

but i didnt notice my characters CP go up from completing bonuses

[zenith canyon]

u need whole sets of cards that give stats

[brittle hawk]

i did very incrementally

even from collecting cards and getting like+2 spec

[burnt tree]

[brittle hawk]

because i am new

[burnt tree]

ew

[zenith canyon]

u want to have 23/23 here all LEGENDARY

[slender sky]

how do you have 4,4mil with 5 ancients, did you never touch resonance in your life

[zenith canyon]

so 23 diff pets as Legendary

thats hard for new ppl

[brittle hawk]

oh my god

[zenith canyon]

cuz u need pets, and those pets have to be legend

[brittle hawk]

they all apply to all chars even when not equipped?

[zenith canyon]

yes

[uncut dirge]

holy shit

wednesday players are the worst

[burnt tree]

valk alt vs main

[zenith canyon]

first time?

[burnt tree]

both done with this weeks paradise

friday/saturday best raids imo

wednesday has the tryhards and agents

[uncut dirge]

it might actually be the very first time yes lmao

[swift tree]

wednesday is worst day for raids because all the people who actually play the game are doing Paradise

[uncut dirge]

now i've got a

[burnt tree]

tru that

[uncut dirge]

60-89-39-31 bard in other party

[swift tree]

reset day is alt accounts and rice farmers

[uncut dirge]

in aegir G1

and my party had a paladin that died 5 minutes into the fight

sorry, 4 minutes

[cosmic flame]

this is why you gatekeep

[uncut dirge]

like died TWICE

[wind dagger]

Mfers

[uncut dirge]

1300, 270 roster level

[cosmic flame]

title

gems

[uncut dirge]

abyssal punisher

[cosmic flame]

books

[uncut dirge]

but it's aegir

[cosmic flame]

yea denied

still

denied

you get 50 applicants

why risk it with a title that can be bought x10

[uncut dirge]

the irony, of course, is that the paladinn

managed to have better buff uptime while being dead

than the bard

[steady crater]

try this for your lobby

[empty sleet]

Tried to calculate the chance for floor 100 with matlab. Old hell vs new frost/flame, including lucky floors. Made some assumptions for the % distribution of lucky floor for the old hell.

[swift tree]

that's just Mordum Gate 3

[junior fern]

I guess that makes sense why you can get 80 relic engraving pouches from floor 100 then

[junior fern]

0.085% chance with a legendary key o.o

[steady crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/346867095734059020/1367073367198400553/splated.gif

[ember crag]

Our sidereal master doesn't know what to do.

[slender goblet]

shafted

[quiet flower]

[slender sky]

big upgrade

[quiet flower]

The left one was what dropped

[reef quartz]

go wider

poo for lvl 10 standards

[mortal burrow]

oop

ancient restoration at f40

[uncut dirge]

is there a way to leave an enemy stronghold without loading out of it

[quiet flower]

An enemy stronghold?

[reef quartz]

no

[uncut dirge]

damn

[reef quartz]

SH is another instance so instance to instance, need loading

[uncut dirge]

yeah but chaos you can leave, for example, by loggin gout

next tiem you log on you're already in the area you were in previously

[quiet flower]

Blue keys are goated

[mortal burrow]

if u log out of the char and if you're still in the stronghold

[quiet flower]

[mortal burrow]

i think you still stay there

[uncut dirge]

yeah

i think so too

[mortal burrow]

but that may be the only way

[zenith canyon]

lel

[mortal burrow]

unless if u do

like raid, chaos, etc

[uncut dirge]

yeah but then when you come back

you're still in that SH

[mortal burrow]

yes

[uncut dirge]

so it doesn't help me get out without that extra load

[ember crag]

I want to leave...

[reef quartz]

o hmm, you meant this type

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/essica-monthly-capybara-10th-gif-1763494760247113268

[ember crag]

Made it to mvp 4

[uncut dirge]

basically i finished my last raid on the char

but i'm in some assholes stronghold