lost-ark-discussions

[zenith canyon]

and u roll ONLY that added line

[bleak zinc]

[sharp rock]

We have "Lebkuchen" Thats some christmas bakery stuff 365 days All Over the supermarkets

[swift magnet]

[bleak zinc]

[sharp rock]

[swift tree]

they sell Pfeffernusse all year round here too at ALDIs

and ive probably spelt that wrong

[sharp rock]

Its everywhere

[lunar stag]

Are we going get info on if strike raid is next week?

[zenith canyon]

[charred void]

medium sized rmt ember

[zenith canyon]

am poor, send help

[swift tree]

A mob dropped a blessed and a fate at the same time

and another

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-18069003738146878767

[charred void]

give gold

[quiet flower]

I'm more poor

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/block-anime-girl-blocking-meme-gif-1669076119350065986

[swift tree]

It's been immediately sunk into Karma

[charred void]

[sharp rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/764167638003613736.webp?size=96&animated=true

[swift tree]

surely monte will give me 150 lanterns for first place

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[charred void]

not sure if i wanna keep grinding achievements past 40k points

[burnt tree]

https://imgur.com/mYUyHze

[swift tree]

edging closer

[burnt tree]

to the edge?

[swift tree]

the relic quality rat

Tina

[burnt tree]

https://imgur.com/mYUyHze

[swift tree]

just clean up stuff that isn't super depairge

[charred void]

i only have cancer achievements left 💀

[burnt tree]

just wait for them to add more normal ones

[charred void]

i mean its like another year or 2 for them to add enough for the 50k trophy

current max is like 44k-ish

[swift tree]

and that's even with all the cursed ones

[errant fable]

[swift tree]

there's an achievement for Ella, like fck that

[swift tree]

surely aldebaran adds 10k

[charred void]

surely

[swift tree]

[charred void]

half of that sailing coop

[quiet flower]

Just get it

[swift tree]

Surely we get a pirate version of Atropos in Aldebaran where they expand on Bloodclaw story and add other ways to get keys?

[bright scroll]

Free

[charred void]

got a big chest yesterday on the shipwreck, "only" got 1 sailor for blue achievement, no sea bounty this time

last big chest gave me sailor and map

3 small chests nothing

[swift tree]

still no shipwreck maps

not even a dive one

[charred void]

i get like 1 of them every 3-5 days(of doing up to 3x sailing per day)

think it's like 5% chance for purple map and 1% for legendary

no idea if legendary has guaranteed reward

[reef quartz]

is not, got 3-4

[swift tree]

[charred void]

💀

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-simone-griffith-whatever-it-is-it-cant-be-that-bad-it-could-be-worse-cant-be-that-bad-gif-3809485786558593947

[reef quartz]

just higher odds

[reef quartz]

i'm 2.4k deep in, it's very cancer

[swift tree]

[charred void]

huge upgrade

[final sable]

i still see more fate embers then blessed embers

azenas blessing is a scam

10/10 will not refresh it on 5/6 chars

[burnt tree]

"or above"

its joever

[charred void]

sidereal gems

[swift tree]

highest is 50

[reef quartz]

peak degen will be at 3k mark for final 1k ish but, I'll stop around 3k or so

[burnt tree]

im scared of the lvl 10 or above

not the number of times

wdym lvl 11 gems

[final sable]

i did 25 t3 lvl10 gambas

and 3 t4

20 of them were when t3 dmg 10s were worth something

[charred void]

im poor

[reef quartz]

those are rich ppl's achieve

[final sable]

i rolled dmg at a like 33%

[reef quartz]

could cycle

[wise pasture]

seems fine to me

[swift tree]

[final sable]

100% dmg at t4 rn

[brittle hawk]

couldn't you have done that easily back in t3 when t2 was around

[wise pasture]

lvl 10 gems you can technically do even for free if you smart about it

[reef quartz]

you could

they might gut the achieve

to make it easier

[charred void]

took them 3,5 years to rework them, doubt that

[zenith canyon]

they "started" to hear our shit we asked at start of game

[reef quartz]

xdd

[final sable]

u lose like nothing now gambaing t4 10s

[swift tree]

by their usual timeline we'll get paladin surge gem in 2027

[wise pasture]

2030

[charred void]

another 3 combat cringe score upgrade

[wise pasture]

that one at least makes sense

unlike shoulders

[wintry depot]

i lsot cp switching earring

because my 3% earring doesnt have shield%

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[wise pasture]

🫠 they really should split that into categories...

[charred void]

apparently flat hp is worth less cp than %shield or heal

kinda weird since both scale of of hp value

[wise pasture]

which is quite weird given how it works in game, but probably is

[wintry depot]

yep

smilegate is dumb af

[charred void]

have to wait until they sell the game to china

[kind lotus]

like what smilegate did to crossfire

[quiet flower]

Better buy one with Shield%

[kind lotus]

now tencent is the dev

lost ark soon

[charred void]

i hope

go all in on the p2w shit

at least the core aspect gonna still be fun

[wintry depot]

i mean shield% is a good line

but mroe than wp power? idk man

[wise pasture]

shield and recovery is nice, so is HP

but it shouldnt be anywhere near the value of % weapon power

[quiet flower]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[wintry depot]

exactly

[charred void]

that 3% weapon power on earring doesn't do anything tbh

on support

[wise pasture]

I would value it at best as half the %weapon power line

[wintry depot]

recov line does something when you dont heal?

cp system is just scuffed for supps

[charred void]

i mean ideally you want to have complete swapable accs for the content

[wintry depot]

my t4 bracelet is better than my t3 one and it was still telling me the t3 was better

[wintry depot]

bard and artist barely heals

[charred void]

i had like 5 different +1 setups back in t3

[wintry depot]

recov line is dogshit on them

shield i can agree

recov nop

[safe lark]

we are nothing but dust

[zenith canyon]

[safe lark]

feets

[swift tree]

should make an alt and call it dampsocks

[charred void]

feetcondom

[swift tree]

freepiggies

[quiet flower]

This is an Ayaya right

I saw them in my Argeos the other day

[zenith canyon]

ya

[swift tree]

opentoedcoom

[zenith canyon]

she ok buffs

[swift tree]

warrior class call it opentoedshoeshire

[wise pasture]

fayten, get your therapist ready

[charred void]

https://imgur.com/mYUyHze

[zenith canyon]

heh i just realised i was 0 gems doing argeos and did 67m dps

still more than full geared chars

[wise pasture]

huh a bunny and whatever that is

[zenith canyon]

thats "am rich" outfit

but still hoe

[wise pasture]

if fully geared char does that, i would have some serious questions for him

[vapid nexus]

do they nerf paradise for eu?

[wise pasture]

one day probably

[swift tree]

T doing more than identity is so smedge

[wise pasture]

no gem, so ya

also, stacks are too slow to get atm

[swift tree]

Yeah, and Leap tuned w/ Karma damage

x60 stacks is despairge

x15 and gem

[charred void]

cant get 60 stacks before world boss dies

[wise pasture]

I could see that

[slender sky]

no only for you

[wise pasture]

exactly that🫡

[mortal burrow]

ngl i didnt know

that you had to charge it 💀

[kind lotus]

https://imgur.com/mYUyHze

[swift tree]

like old surge for DB

[mortal burrow]

nono

like hold it down

[kind lotus]

Barachanie

[swift tree]

yeah

[mortal burrow]

and release after cast bar is full

💀

i knew about the stacking

but not charging it

[swift tree]

cements all the male warriors having a charge skill

[thorny olive]

Every purple key is a nerf

[mortal burrow]

Is it better tho to fully stack to 60? or use it off cd?

[wintry depot]

Kinda funny how dps pala went from the only non meme one in t3 to one of the worst in t4

[thorny olive]

Slayer also has charge skill..

[swift tree]

Destroyer EE
Gunlance, Shot/Launcher
Paladin: Judgement Blade
Berserker: Overdrive

[wise pasture]

off cd, it takes eternity to charge those stacks

[kind lotus]

Destroyer with supernova

[thorny olive]

Slayer T skill, brutal if u hate yourself

Valk T is basically a charge skill, you just have to tap it 2 times instead of holding that duration

[wise pasture]

Valkyrie is the description of: You see that direction? i dont want to

[thorny olive]

She's based tho, can turn 360 while charging up in T and X skills

[swift tree]

Paladin T you dont need to turn, hits 360 on the big attack and has bonus to both atk types

[wise pasture]

ye, you can clearly see the class progression and evolution there

[thorny olive]

[wise pasture]

at least they are taking notes

[quiet flower]

Oh man are people going crazy over latest patch notes in CN: https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/1nckrbf/cn_is_on_mad_fire/

They're crying about Paradise nerfs because of 2 boxes being added

[thorny olive]

Very cute

[mortal burrow]

Is pally's x skill the only skill that is a charge and stacking skill🤔

[wise pasture]

technically yes

execution of justice has holding option

[thorny olive]

[celest tiger]

Ew holding

[thorny olive]

Yeah.. totally a nerf..

[mortal burrow]

But it doesnt have a stacking mechanic, right o-o?

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-no-one-cares-gif-18925814

[wise pasture]

no stacking no

[thorny olive]

Sorry lucky number 1 that u don't get ur 50 keys a week anymore

[quiet flower]

The babyrage is great

[kind lotus]

Adding paradise gear to box loot is so shit

[mortal burrow]

🤔

[quiet flower]

Nah

[mortal burrow]

if this is actually true i dig it

[quiet flower]

People cry every week that they don't get lucky in Elysian with drops

[mortal burrow]

oh wait

FREE TAPS

[thorny olive]

Rip free taps

[mortal burrow]

i thought the quality taps

[quiet flower]

This literally gives people a little more chance to get up on the leaderboards to get both more keys from higher rankings and more gold from weekly rewards

[mortal burrow]

[wise pasture]

not lucky, only got like 800k of stuff, oh horrible week

[robust birch]

Selling off my assets, for business related reasons

[mortal burrow]

But if this is true

they're going to be removing free taps?

But we gotta wait tho

until they see if free taps is actually removed

free taps has actually helped me so much ;-;

Hopefully we dont get this tho if free taps are actually removed..

[quiet flower]

I did not see about them removing the Free Tap box to put for this, rather just adding 2 extra to the pool

[thorny olive]

But what the hell are they even yapping about, they say the boxes are on the paradise ladder 🪜 which would mean ranks, and say gear box with key, then they say hell keys from cubes are unaffected

[quiet flower]

You can have 3,000 Free Tap crystals and not hit, then people cry they didn't hit

You literally cannot win

[celest tiger]

Yeah I'm not understanding why the leaderboard is even necessary, so silly

[slender sky]

why not? some ppl enjoy climbing = plus, some ppl dont care and get their keys anyway = neutral

theres no reason not to have it

[quiet flower]

Same reason people want PVP; one big dick measuring contest

[thorny olive]

Oh, so they mean, this change is only on the extra keys from leaderboard

[celest tiger]

In the interest of saving time, that's reason enough for me lol

[quiet flower]

But let's say you remove leaderboards and just get rewards based on the time to kill boss, people would still cry because they couldn't kill the boss

[slender sky]

what time would you save if the leaderboard didnt exist? you literally dont have to interact with it at all and still get 3 keys every week

[thorny olive]

Basically lucky number 1 gonna cry because now he got paradise gear instead of silver on one of his 5 hell keys

[charred void]

give boss unlimited hp and just let people spam dmg for 1 minute

[slender sky]

you can literally act like it doesnt exist and nothing changes for you

[charred void]

so paradise score matters

[mortal burrow]

actually yeah i dont think the thing i linked is true ?

no idea tho 🤷

[quiet flower]

Before Paradise released, people complained it would be extra content, so they were told they could just do it optionally

Now they cry it gets nerfed because rewards too good

[thorny olive]

Tf

[celest tiger]

Well right now it's just another step to get to what everybody wants, keys - they could easily integrate these steps so it's more streamlined, but I get it's still fairly new

[mortal burrow]

so it only affects keys from rankings?

that is kinda odd

[thorny olive]

Yes

Thats why they cry

[celest tiger]

It's just way too convoluted right now to do it per character

[swift tree]

where's that from?

[thorny olive]

Cuz now the ones who get their 5 leg keys can get something other than fusion

[mortal burrow]

cn notes

https://lostark.qq.com/web202304/detail.html?docid=14984313438608697298

rightb elow the ark pass section

[quiet flower]

If this is the case, the only "nerfs" are to the lazy bozos who just sit on 3x blue keys each week without doing Crucible

[mortal burrow]

How is it only a nerf to blue keys?

[celest tiger]

Yep, the whole system is pretty silly, the best part (Hell) is also now getting an unwanted change too, such a mess lol

[mortal burrow]

Wouldn't all keys be affected from rankings?

[quiet flower]

I'm talking about the bozos who don't do Crucible each week and just get the 3x blue keys, not specifically blue keys

[slender sky]

let some ppl have fun with competing for their banners, the reward difference between hitting crucible1 once and competing for time on latest boss is so abysmaly small anyway that it doesnt matter in the slightest

[celest tiger]

Sure, it was my opinion

[thorny olive]

But it would be every key except cube exchange

[quiet flower]

Yes I know

[celest tiger]

Carry on if you like spamming for rankings

[quiet flower]

But on average, people are only getting 3x blue keys since they don't go for even top 30%

[thorny olive]

[wintry depot]

Yeah cba tryharding

[mortal burrow]

But it affects literally every single key tho from rankings? I am so confused waht you're tryna point out?

[thorny olive]

Same, I just leave it within top 10% or so

[quiet flower]

[broken lava]

Paradise ain't getting nerfed what you're all on about?

[mortal burrow]

The leg keys and epic keys are going to get the paradise boxes from hell too as an option?

[celest tiger]

It's another aspect that affects quality of loot I guess, but meh 🤷🏽‍♂️

[quiet flower]

People are raging hard at proposed addition of 2x Paradise exclusive boxes from Hell descents

[charred void]

(from china patch notes)

[thorny olive]

No the Chinese morons are calling it a nerf because more garbage boxes in hell = more chances of 3x garbage

[swift tree]

where's this part in the notes?

[slender sky]

on main6 i can somewhat understand giving it a couple of tries but outside of that its lunacy

[quiet flower]

People crying as if they see Gold/Abidos every single key they do

[broken lava]

I already get 3x garbage anyways so won't change much for me xdd

[quiet flower]

[thorny olive]

Yeah xdd

[celest tiger]

Last bullet I think

[mortal burrow]

right below this pic

I mean idc that boxes are added

free mats are free mats

[slender sky]

we gamba or we gamba?

[thorny olive]

Gimme

[broken lava]

[mortal burrow]

if I dont hit I dont hit

[swift tree]

the bit that mentions phantasm

[broken lava]

But like can we talk about this?

https://www.playlostark.com/en-gb/news/articles/eye-on-arkesia-september-2025#ags-MediaPopup

[broken lava]

why is the video still private AGS

[swift tree]

"September 17 update will include Assault: Rimeria, also known to players as the Strike Raid, the Combat Analyzer, the Honor System, and more. Roxx also covers Halloween skins, plus the final piece of the 2025 Roadmap."

[mortal burrow]

translation issue on chrome prob

im using the browser translator over translate itself

[swift tree]

might be cope, but it might mean that 1680 one includes karma QoL

[thorny olive]

It's not a nerf or anything, it's just more choices, while yeah it can pollute the rewards, but it's just more choices, I'd pick paradise poo over silver and shares, they aren't removing or reducing anything

[swift tree]

but only applies to new keys

[mortal burrow]

I need shards 💀

Im starving

[swift tree]

floor 100 giving x100 Karma pots

[wintry depot]

YES

[ancient oasis]

Yea if they are just adding boxes i think thats fine as long as like it isnt skewed towards getting them

[celest tiger]

Do iiiit

[wintry depot]

Sad

[slender sky]

you were supposed to be the voice of reason

[celest tiger]

Lawl

[zenith canyon]

kek she devil

[ancient oasis]

the paradise chest tho better be waited towards like relic+ tho

[wintry depot]

I dont think only high dmg is selling well?

Ah maybe it is since valk

[thorny olive]

Well, fusion is already like 0.1% chance, not like it changes anything

[celest tiger]

Rip

[mortal burrow]

bro istg

my alts that I dont like

keep getting fusions

[thorny olive]

Same

[mortal burrow]

My arcanist has like over 3k

💀

[slender sky]

1roll wouldve been 30k, now its 10k

[thorny olive]

The ratties are swimming in it and the main 6 never see it

I picked floor 8 bound gold over fusion on a ratti ..

So I could hone her

[wintry depot]

Uh

It went up a lot

Sorry

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/ithinkyoushouldleave-betrayal-betrayed-levels-noonehaseverseen-gif-22155357

[ancient oasis]

i have like 5k fusions on all my chars from paradise, and my valk new main has like 16k

[swift tree]

anyone have the details of the summer gift package we got?

want to check the name of a chest in it

[thorny olive]

What???

My valk hasn't even seen fusion

[ancient oasis]

yea i get fusions like 2 times a week usually on my alts lmao

[thorny olive]

???

[ancient oasis]

well my valk fusions are from whaling

[swift tree]

literally just a "luck" thing

[mortal burrow]

oh

[wintry depot]

nice luck

[mortal burrow]

i was bouta say

[ancient oasis]

i just never choose fusions on her anymore

[swift tree]

game picks 3 random

[wintry depot]

i barely see fusions

[thorny olive]

It's giga luck

[mortal burrow]

if u got 16k fusions from hell 💀

[thorny olive]

Yeah

[swift tree]

I mean Barachad has 2k fusions

[charred void]

(he got fusions from buying summer packs)

[slender sky]

did you guys know rocco bought all honing packs from f4 to prepare for valk? and he also prebought accs for both dps and support spec?

in case yall forgot

[thorn basin]

🐳

[wintry depot]

ok so

[ancient oasis]

yea my SE has 5.2k fusions, wildsoul has 4.2k, bard has 3.6k and my other SE has 4.6k

[slender sky]

[charred void]

thanks for reminding us

[wintry depot]

where do i try to hone

[ancient oasis]

thats all from paradise

i am pretty lucky on them

[swift tree]

that's a bit fucking nutty

[ancient oasis]

i get like fusions or special honing

every week

and havent been using them

[charred void]

i get silver and vita meows from hell

[thorny olive]

See these whales gonna get like 20k fusion on each char from hell and then tell AGS to nerf it so us who got 1k fusion in total from hell is gonna cry

[storm bronze]

I get nothing I'm poor unlucky mokoko

[ancient oasis]

Nah i love it

[charred void]

my ex main since paradise release

[ancient oasis]

only thing i want to change about paradise is give relic book chest at floor 100

[slender sky]

seeded client

[storm bronze]

I want balthor twerking in floor 100

[undone summit]

@mortal burrow gave @storm bronze +1 reputation.

[thorny olive]

Thats what the ratties get, while main 6 gets quality taps that doesnt hit on 95+ quality

[charred void]

we need super gooner hell stage 100 winner pose 37

everyone would buy cube tickets to convert

[storm bronze]

Hell yeah

[charred void]

2nd pala

[thorny olive]

Yes but it's RNG relic book and bound to char

[ancient oasis]

i hope they never nerf paradise cause paradise was a big W with its introduction idc about the like 1% of rice farmers running 100 lifeskilling accounts that are now mad they get less gold

[thorny olive]

Paradise is perfect

[charred void]

3rd pala

[storm bronze]

Ur perfect

[thorny olive]

If they nerf it, game dies

[quiet flower]

Game already dead, wdym

[undone summit]

@swift tree gave @quiet flower +1 reputation.

[charred void]

dead again?

[thorny olive]

Well, something's gotta deal the final blow

[wintry depot]

sad

[quiet flower]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[charred void]

js pala

[thorny olive]

Me everytime

[celest tiger]

Same

[thorny olive]

It's not worth it

[charred void]

1660 artist rat

[thorny olive]

U can hone +25 or you can hone 5 alts to 1720

[charred void]

dont remember how many keys i threw away on her just for memes

[ancient oasis]

Lmao why is CN mad about this DPS valk is overperforming my expectations of her being a highmiddle class in most of the gates in the game shes like top 10/top 5

[swift tree]

the real sweating starts after reset with the final crucible

[thorny olive]

But it's not final

[swift tree]

[thorny olive]

Gear

People will keep getting gear every week

[ancient oasis]

They wantr X to do 10 billion damage

[thorny olive]

And continue to sweat the crucible

[charred void]

swap bard x with valk x, dmg wise

[quiet flower]

I'll be picking the gear box every week if it's there

Watch me get Rank 1 on every class in EU

[thorn basin]

good luck on wildsoul

[thorny olive]

Eh, bard x is only good in isolation, building those 3 bubbles take too long

[slender sky]

games been dead 27 times over, and also been killed by 11 different games

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-what-dead-may-never-die-gif-18356705

[quiet flower]

Damn what a whale

[charred void]

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[thorny olive]

Actually it's Z

[thorn basin]

[thorny olive]

But whatever

[quiet flower]

I've been hearing it for 21 years in WoW, so this is no different

[swift tree]

as long as x60 sword stacks?

[thorny olive]

Potato potata

[wintry depot]

no

its very fast

XD

[charred void]

not even worth to relist

[swift tree]

gib here then

[charred void]

[thorny olive]

Bard slowest builder

[swift tree]

I dare you to post that in #paladin

[zenith canyon]

i wanted something usable

[swift tree]

south kurzan takes less time than building x60 stacks

[undone summit]

@charred void gave @swift tree +1 reputation.

[thorny olive]

Well, bard takes the whole story

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[swift tree]

.... but you actually finish

[wise pasture]

here a magick trick

[prime briar]

How hard is for a fresh account get into t4 ?

[wintry depot]

kat is capping, it doesnt take long to z XD

[thorny olive]

Well, stimulant is KT

[thorny olive]

[swift tree]

40... 45... 50... 55...er boss is dead 💀

[wise pasture]

ZZZZZZ

[quiet flower]

@sand marsh has some vids on it

[rough jetty]

so anybody wanna do abyssal dungeons around 700gs in ratik?

[thorny olive]

Bard Z faster than shadowhunter X skill

fr fr

[prime briar]

Yt ?

[thorny olive]

Reduce shadowhunter x skill to 20 stacks

And allow us to use it twice or thrice

Most broken class

[wise pasture]

[thorny olive]

Who keeps cooming on my messages

[thorny olive]

[swift tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh6vjB0syTc

[thorny olive]

But it's stoopzz

?misinfo

[tawny gate]

Spreading Misinformation is against the rules!

Spreading misinformation intentionally or with malintent is against our server rules. Even as a joke, the truth gets misconstrued and people get confused. This includes editing official sources for the game to imitate the publisher or a GM.
There will be penalties for such actions.

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-gif-13767303

[zenith canyon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvYbN5j43k8

Here this is real

[quiet flower]

Much better

Deathboi ain't no whale

(On EU)

[thorny olive]

He will just tell the new players to use F4 shop, he doesn't know anything else

[swift tree]

deathbois a whale

[swift tree]

fair you're right

[zenith canyon]

but not in EU

[swift tree]

https://www.youtube.com/@Cauttyh/videos fair, for a balanced opinion, here's Cauttyh's new player library

[quiet flower]

That's why I said on EU

[swift tree]

Rushing Glacier kinda nice for a chaos skill, ASMR as fuck

[quiet flower]

Just start streaming and have your viewers give you Gold

[zenith canyon]

heh. no gem arty >>>> full build chars

[thorny olive]

The efficiencies of choose a class

[quiet flower]

Why does this read like the Cube changes

"I'M NOT RUNNING HELL, BUT IF THEY NERF IT I WILL HAVE TO"

[Hell = Cube]

[zenith canyon]

heh who tf stash like 4+ hell keys

[swift tree]

less about "efficiency/viability" and more what kinda of playstyles appeal to what kind of player, an efficient version of the 1h 30min video he made. He phrases titles pretty crapily

[quiet flower]

Nice AI

[prime briar]

Thanks

[swift tree]

sorry, already stole your luck

[swift magnet]

💀

[thorny olive]

Bruh, this is the kind of guy that causes nerfs

[celest tiger]

It literally would be much closer to cube if it also gave roster XP 😭

[thorny olive]

Like cube

Fkn stack up all ur tickets so they botch cube

[swift magnet]

[quiet flower]

That woulda been nice

[lethal reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfsaBg5xCrY

[quiet flower]

It's finally up

[swift tree]

OH NOES

[thorny olive]

Roxxietoe

[swift magnet]

-.- play whats fun to you and not make it about efficiency -.-

[zenith canyon]

[slender sky]

yea cant wait for the morons who will be crying in 3 months OMG PLS GIVE US 3x HELL OPTION I HAVE TOO MANY KEYS TO RUN

[thorny olive]

Efficiency? Just play 6xValkyries

[quiet flower]

The ironic thing is it's so much faster to run than cubes, too

[swift magnet]

10k went from deposit into normal gold today already xD

[zenith canyon]

[slender sky]

OMG AGS HELD ME AT GUNPOINT AND FORCED ME TO EXCHANGE ALL MY CUBES FOR KEYS NOW I CANT AFFORD GEMS

[thorny olive]

Hey, no rat behaviour, use the gold

[ancient oasis]

she said random ancient engraving pouch

pog ancient engravings are real

[swift magnet]

all those bozos want everything for free. give them x3 with reduced mats and they will cry why reduce mats,. i run them x3 LOL

[broken lava]

9 weeks strike raid

[lethal reef]

honor system

💀

[zenith canyon]

another FLAME honor trash

[thorny olive]

Yep, the same people who creates "nerfs" cries the most when they get affected

[slender sky]

damn not only the game had a glow up but roxx too

[swift magnet]

woot the intern is awake this week?

[swift tree]

need the karma pots

[zenith canyon]

she had good sleep now

[ancient oasis]

ancient engraving fr fr

[swift magnet]

she doesnt look tired this time

[thorny olive]

[zenith canyon]

5m engr for FREEEE

[lethal reef]

halloween skins

[thorny olive]

Ancient engravings already

[lethal reef]

finally can make makima look

[slender sky]

youll never satisfy these weirdos

[zenith canyon]

*180k

[swift magnet]

oh no i have to work for my stuff. cant be real. harzer

[ancient oasis]

smh going to get disrespect ancient engraving

[thorny olive]

Fuck it, Just make the keys expire

Run it or lose it

[swift tree]

we've already received all the other ones they've done so far, fucking forbid they ever recycle a skin package

[swift magnet]

best comment i think was: why does ags makes me do more homework. reducing chaos and cubes isnt helping

like come on xD

[thorny olive]

What's new, just looks the same as everything else

[prime briar]

Basically new players need to pray for bound gold paradise

[zenith canyon]

ya pretty much

[slender sky]

having to play the game to progress in the game, how dare they

[zenith canyon]

1585-1620 is soo DEAD and u dont even earn enough gold here

[swift tree]

paradise? players stuck at 1340 needing orehas to get to 1415

[thorny olive]

They'll remove that soon once they find out about the people stocking up on keys just to punish us for not dutifully running them

[prime briar]

But u get a free 1585

[slender sky]

[swift tree]

yeah for one character, talking about others

[lethal reef]

real, the whole t3 is single player content, makes lost ark not an mmo at that point

[charred void]

1 free 1585 only? i need 10 free 1585

[zenith canyon]

doin skolakia

[quiet flower]

You get so much from Hell

[thorny olive]

I don't :(

[ancient oasis]

still should nerf 1585-1620 honing cost tho

[slender sky]

only 1 free powerpass every 3months? i got told i need to create minimum 6 characters right off the bat or i cant login

[prime briar]

like 1610-1620 range

[quiet flower]

Lies

[prime briar]

if expensive for gold cost

[thorny olive]

-> Paradise ⛏️

[prime briar]

u only need 1 pitty and thats over

[swift tree]

tbh orehas for 1340-1415 is still kinda dumb

[thorny olive]

Not the chars I want it on!!!

[quiet flower]

You need 30 to be able to play

[charred void]

on every server in the region

[swift magnet]

good thing there isnt negative honor. i would collect them like flies

[swift tree]

no you dont, just 12 in Tier 4 is snug enough

[thorny olive]

When can we +/- people on MVP screen

[swift tree]

its my boy!

[swift magnet]

WHY tf do they choose this as a preset for showcasing skins. ya halloween indeed. giraffe secretary

[quiet flower]

[thorny olive]

[quiet flower]

I want more secretary skins please

[swift magnet]

ig september patch + only

[swift tree]

that's the one they used in Korea

[quiet flower]

Nah, all 30 must be T4

[thorny olive]

Thats just a sorc

[swift tree]

doing Akkan on them still

[ancient oasis]

are you even playing lost ark if you dont have 30 characters at 1730

[thorny olive]

When solo raid bound gold for non gold earners

[swift tree]

*1735, please refer to the achievement guidelines

[thorny olive]

When char bound gold for doing raids outside of the 3 gold ones

[swift tree]

@ancient oasis clearly this is for every class

[ancient oasis]

Not even a real dedicated LOA player if you dont have sidereal weapon on main six

[swift tree]

does +0 count?

[thorny olive]

My walk don't have that

Valk

[swift tree]

literally just turn in the quest and that's it

[thorny olive]

BUT I haven't done brel on her

[thorny olive]

I'd have to do hm brel or smth

[swift tree]

nah just brel g4

[ancient oasis]

solo brel works

[swift tree]

even solo counts

[thorny olive]

Well I want the horns

[swift tree]

fair

[thorny olive]

[swift tree]

💀

[ancient oasis]

i did a HM thae yesterday to carry some mokokos

[thorny olive]

Not doing it for the aid weapon, only for horns

[ancient oasis]

g2 was an adventure with the counters

[swift tree]

g2?

which one?

[ancient oasis]

Thae

[swift tree]

oof

[thorny olive]

Koko.. I have those

After they reduced it to 4 gates

[ancient oasis]

i did it for the tokens

[swift tree]

yeah, I dont

[thorny olive]

Because fuck doing brel g1-g6

[zenith canyon]

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/abrelshud-gif-25037287

[thorny olive]

That shit got tiring fast so I stuck to 1-3 for ages until 1-4

[ancient oasis]

i have both brel pets cause i was brel 1-6 gamer

on six characters

though thats what burnt me out the first time

[thorny olive]

And that's why I didn't

[zenith canyon]

i need therapy after that scoprio

[swift tree]

shame the whole second half of the first area got cut, because it's fucking pretty

[thorny olive]

I did nm G6 like 10 times for title and, hm like once and then stuck to just 1-3

[burnt tree]

CN added Paradise gear in Hell

https://tenor.com/view/noa-pajama-blue-archive-angry-skill-gif-7704635827689755866

[quiet flower]

[thorny olive]

Yes, and now they cry saying it's a nerf

[quiet flower]

You can see the raging about, @burnt tree

[burnt tree]

it is a nerf

where u could be getting oreha or gold u get paradise gear instead

very useful

[swift magnet]

oh gold island.lets go 😛

[thorny olive]

Yes and no, it doesn't nerf or remove anything of the previous, it's just convoluting the drop table

[swift tree]

kinda breaks the promise of hell

[burnt tree]

yeah which is a nerf lol

bigger loot pool smaller odds of getting what u want

[zenith canyon]

u get less %chance for USEFULL stuff

[swift tree]

It's "elixir"'ing the rng table

remember the old Elixir RNG table

[thorny olive]

Yeah, but I get shit everytime anyway

[swift tree]

for options

[quiet flower]

You say that like you get Gold/Fusion on every key

[thorny olive]

[swift tree]

[quiet flower]

We can't all be lucky like @thorny olive

[burnt tree]

well...

like 80% of keys i guess?

[thorny olive]

I had like 3 or 4 dead keys last week D:

[swift tree]

it's a rough 70/30 for me

[thorny olive]

Um, like 30%

[burnt tree]

like i might go 19 floor max but ill still see gold or fusion mats

[quiet flower]

More like 20% of keys

[swift magnet]

40% for me alst week

most of the keys scammed me

bad luck

[wintry depot]

roadmap beginning of october

we get strike raids for 9 weeks

[swift tree]

Breaker dropped a 55k gold bar the other hell week

[burnt tree]

Strike raid 9 weeks

is peak

[swift magnet]

kazeros "race" incoming

[burnt tree]

we knew wed have a race

but who cares lol

[wintry depot]

halloween skins wont come with a patch, it will come somewhere between sept and oct

[swift tree]

it probably wont be on there, Act 4 for Dec

[swift magnet]

yus i dont

i just wanna see the drama xD

[burnt tree]

the only valid race is Korean

[swift magnet]

not the "race" itself xD

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/karina-drama-aespa-aespa-kpop-qarji-gif-3692889069751921408

[thorny olive]

Yeah the shit floors usually have it, but the further you go the more likely you get garbage

[slender sky]

i just wanna see the bans combined with the following excuses

[safe lark]

this one?

[lunar stag]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf-KJxThf5U||

It took a prug almost an hour to finish the raid. This needs to change lmao

[burnt tree]

i wanna see Lia photoshopping her disqualification again

[burnt tree]

and?

the raid just released

[burnt tree]

they dont have all strats and guides perfected yet

[lunar stag]

Thiss is hard mode not firt mode

[burnt tree]

yes i know

Loteng doesnt do TFMs

but my point still stands

[wintry depot]

what is he saying

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/sejinming-korean-cute-cutie-cute-korean-gif-21350839

[wintry depot]

hard mode is there to be hard

[swift tree]

dropping raids in december has always been bad for them, dropping 2 during Nov/Dec is fucking abhorrent

[wintry depot]

casuals can stay normal mode

director was clear on that

[thorny olive]

True, delay it until may

[burnt tree]

the problem is u cant stay in NM

[zenith canyon]

i mean all raids that were december was shit to do since its not great, xmass here

[lunar stag]

cauals also do hard mode

[wintry depot]

and 1 hour to clear a new raid is actually fast XD

[lunar stag]

WHAT KINDA OF LOGIC IS THAT

[swift tree]

taking an hour to clear a raid for the first time isn't that long tbh

[slender sky]

a just released hardmode raid takes 1hour for a random pug? what is the surprise there now lmao

[wintry depot]

no most casuals dont do hard mode ON RELEASE

[swift magnet]

its always the same

[burnt tree]

i hope our Kazeros race will have NM/HM disabled ong

[zenith canyon]

heh 1700 isnt even casual

[wintry depot]

please mordum took days to prob and you talk about 1 hour...

[swift magnet]

wait until they have good whatever the new system is called again

[thorny olive]

But you're a casual, I'm a casual, peekes is a casual and we did hm mordum

[lunar stag]

If they wnated people to stay in normal they should have made 2-2 phase 3 and 4 also in normal and a seperate gate

[swift magnet]

that raid will melt like every other raid

[swift tree]

frontier

[lunar stag]

why is not a gate

[wintry depot]

its 1730 xDDDD

[quiet flower]

Strike Raid for 9 weeks

[burnt tree]

1700 is free if u stack the events on 1 char

[quiet flower]

So much gold coming

[lunar stag]

like there is no reason for it not to be agate

[safe lark]

finally dps meter

[wintry depot]

im not a casual lol

[safe lark]

i can see how much dmg i do

[lunar stag]

its 20 minutes long

[swift magnet]

no i mean the gold sink system

[quiet flower]

It is these days

[zenith canyon]

if u stack, or get fucked by rng

[quiet flower]

Even @storm bronze has 1700

[burnt tree]

pretending u dont use meter susge

[swift tree]

oh Ark Grid?

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[swift magnet]

that ya

[wintry depot]

yea but kazeros is 1730, not 1700...

[quiet flower]

HM is 1730

[swift tree]

shoulda called it Ascension tbh

[thorny olive]

lies, you do life skills, only casuals do that

[quiet flower]

NM is 1710

[wintry depot]

yeah we talk about hard mode

being difficult

[quiet flower]

F2P enjoyers aren't pushing for Hard mode

[wintry depot]

welll

yeah

[wintry depot]

what

[quiet flower]

But even then, if you've actively been playing, 1730 isn't that hard either

[wintry depot]

its opposite

[burnt tree]

its ok KR is mad at HM Kazeros anyway

nerfs soon

https://tenor.com/view/sejinming-korean-cute-cutie-cute-korean-gif-21350839

[wintry depot]

koreans are dumb

[quiet flower]

[burnt tree]

yeah so are we

[wintry depot]

true

[quiet flower]

All Lost Ark players are dummies

[burnt tree]

the difference is the tuxedo

[wintry depot]

but they are more

[thorny olive]

The hardcore players just buy everything, they don't do chores !

[mortal burrow]

47 mins

[wintry depot]

and cn are even more dumb

[mortal burrow]

b/c the last 7 is just cutscene

[swift tree]

this actually

[wintry depot]

no thats whales

[lunar stag]

i know, his hp is going get giga nerfed, but what i am wondering is why they didn't make him a three gate, he is as long as mordum

[burnt tree]

hardcore players of the west play alt rosters to feed gold into their main and they buy everything

[burnt tree]

thats not just whales doing it

[wintry depot]

you say deathboi is a casual when hes playing 3 regions and has 14k hours playtime? XD

[thorny olive]

arna casual

[burnt tree]

its just people without a life

or a job

[mortal burrow]

prob to replicate thaemine

[swift tree]

Sweats -> funnel to 1
'Hardcore Week 1 Prog Teams' -> Bus/Rmt/Whale
Gucci Gacha Streamers -> Leviathan

[mortal burrow]

since thaemine was the only other the first raid

[wintry depot]

youc ant whale if you dont have a job tho

[burnt tree]

Director also said Kazeros is on par with Mordumb but he lied

ong

KR mad now

[thorny olive]

Not like he does chores either on NA

[lunar stag]

thaemine gate 4 was a seperate gate form gate 3 at least that what i understand

[burnt tree]

yes u can, dads credit card

[wintry depot]

and if your dad is dead?

[lunar stag]

yeah it was a dumb thing to say anyways lmao

[wintry depot]

idk msot whales i met are people that are working

[thorny olive]

Then you have to ask god

[safe lark]

i would never do anything against the rules

[mortal burrow]

but thae gate 4 had basically 3 phases

[thorny olive]

[mortal burrow]

4-1, 4-2 with workshop right before

[burnt tree]

i said ppl without a life or a job, i dont mean specifically whales

[mortal burrow]

then a 4-3 with hidden hp bar

[burnt tree]

but hardcore players

[wintry depot]

i see

[mortal burrow]

it's exactly like the 2nd gate in the first

[thorny olive]

Assholes*

[burnt tree]

kinda

[lunar stag]

what? How long did the entire gate take?

[burnt tree]

i cant imagine being hardcore in loa

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/black-golden-animation-art-gif-1957595488631354133

[burnt tree]

but u do u ong

[mortal burrow]

thae also had a seperate gate 3 which is practically g1 in kaz

[wintry depot]

yeah but hardcores players for me are the oen that palys a fuck ton

not the whales

[thorny olive]

Yeah no

[celest tiger]

Same 💯

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[mortal burrow]

I forgot how long it took people to prog the first in kr for thaemine

[wintry depot]

i dont think im even close to hardcore but i dont think im a casual either

[wintry depot]

it was something like 10 days

[thorny olive]

Hardcore are the ones who will flip their shit over a bad pull

[wintry depot]

iirc

[swift tree]

Is it hardcore to do a couple of group raids a week and then fuck around with your wide roster?

[burnt tree]

also lets not pretend casuals can stay in NM regardless of release period

[mortal burrow]

like that glaivier?

[lunar stag]

I don't know why i laughed so hard at this

[celest tiger]

Dexter ftw

[mortal burrow]

in powdersnow's party or whoever it was

[swift magnet]

if doing unrested chaos daily means hardcore than i ma.

[wintry depot]

we meant casual on release dont go hard raid

[swift magnet]

not sane but hardcore xD

[burnt tree]

Kazeros for example has 10x the odds for Ancient cores, and significantly better rates on cores in general. NM genuiely sucks

and if u cant do HM on release u cant enter after

unless u got multiple 1710s to get title asap

or ppl to drag u in anyway

[thorny olive]

Naw, idk what to call it either, we are just nerds we aren't casual when it comes to putting time into the game

[wintry depot]

or just have a guild of friends that plays together

[burnt tree]

same thing

[swift tree]

yup

[burnt tree]

regardless thats why ppl dont stick to NM

[swift tree]

So much for them moving away from separating NM/HM rewards ._.

[mortal burrow]

Ngl tho I kinda find 1710 more doable

[wintry depot]

yeah but it wasnt my point XD

[mortal burrow]

1680 armor and +30 adv honing

EZ

[burnt tree]

also frontier exists

[mortal burrow]

Hopefully nm wont be too bad in terms of dmg taken

[burnt tree]

ppl wont go to NM unless its 1 hour b4 maint

[swift tree]

probably wont

[quiet flower]

I don't play alt rosters

[thorny olive]

Anyway, here's the thing, to vertically progress you are required to do hm, no? Didn't they lock something behind HM again

[mortal burrow]

o

[burnt tree]

yeah u just dont have a life

[mortal burrow]

the dps req is out already for nm

[quiet flower]

[mortal burrow]

This doenst seem too too bad

[swift tree]

so less than Mordum HM

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/iu-dont-care-cute-hotel-del-luna-jang-man-wol-gif-15394900

[quiet flower]

https://tenor.com/view/грустный-кот-gif-4290454008808323372

My meow meow

It hurt

[mortal burrow]

tbf tho, mordum hm g3 is ez to deal dmg

[wintry depot]

not this time

[thorny olive]

Kigty

[burnt tree]

u dont have one

[quiet flower]

Who pissed in your cornflakes today, Sathona

[swift tree]

My paladin is set

[burnt tree]

no but Ancient cores have 10 times the odds to drop in HM than NM

[thorny olive]

Huh, guess it was just some RNG thing then, idk, people talked about ark grid shit

[mortal burrow]

did u see

[thorny olive]

Ah that's it

[mortal burrow]

the hm act 4 req tho?

[swift magnet]

those sheets are worthless until we get to prog. nobody knows how hard it will be to met these. but i see it coming ppl will cry if more see this xD

[mortal burrow]

holy shit

[swift tree]

450?

[mortal burrow]

nah not final act

act 4 with echidna

[swift tree]

ah 250

[burnt tree]

who cares about Act 4

[swift tree]

wasnt that original mordum HM requirement too?

[mortal burrow]

i was just talking about the jump

[lunar stag]

What's 1730 again? +30 +20?

[mortal burrow]

from 1710 final act nm jump

[lunar stag]

Actually it's +22

[mortal burrow]

to 1720 act 4 hm jump

[swift tree]

+20, +30 is 1720

[thorny olive]

So basically, do hm to progress, do nm to halt your progress as usually

[mortal burrow]

it looks insane

[quiet flower]

1730 = +40 if you have all gear at +20

[burnt tree]

+22 + 40 is 1740 afaik

[quiet flower]

Correct

[mortal burrow]

nop

204m

[burnt tree]

well u can start working on ark grid through NM

but if u want it to be good ure forced to HM

[thorny olive]

[burnt tree]

like 10 times the odds is big lol

[thorny olive]

Yea

[swift tree]

not Frontier, KR release was 250m

[thorny olive]

It's not just big, it's a massive difference

[quiet flower]

FOMO the plebs to hone from 1710 -> 1730

[swift magnet]

nothing to do with being good or lucky. just fomo strat from sg to get money in my opinion 😛

[lunar stag]

You telling me at least every dps should have been doing 200m at least?

[swift tree]

ours will probably be dropped

[mortal burrow]

But yeah... hm act 4 is basically double the dps req of final act nm

[mortal burrow]

for mordum on release hm?

yes

[swift tree]

obv its less now

[mortal burrow]

^

[burnt tree]

Base Mordum was nerfed too

[celest tiger]

[lunar stag]

I checked the numbers and it said 100m

[burnt tree]

[swift tree]

Frontier has changed it

[lunar stag]

So they nerfed the raid by 50%?

[mortal burrow]

you might be looking at nm for gate 3?

[burnt tree]

well nowadays the requirment is less + ppl do more dmg

[wintry depot]

hm not nm...

[mortal burrow]

I wonder tho if I should be grinding for 30 fire set

🤔

[lunar stag]

Nm is like 60 million I think lmao

[thorny olive]

Well, it doesn't matter when the boss will wipe you in 2.5 seconds anyway each of the 9 gates

[lunar stag]

It's 56 I believe

[thorny olive]

Yes it's 9 now

[mortal burrow]

wym o-o ?

[burnt tree]

damn roxx leaked ancient engravings

[mortal burrow]

nm final act only has 4-1

and finished

[thorny olive]

ok so nm is 4 in 1 + lobby sim

[burnt tree]

which means for purple quest im forced to rat into HM

https://tenor.com/view/noa-pajama-blue-archive-angry-skill-gif-7704635827689755866

[mortal burrow]

honestly im glad

nm only has 4-1

[swift tree]

what for?

[mortal burrow]

armoche

[thorny olive]

Me too

[mortal burrow]

in hm

[burnt tree]

why ud need 30 set

[mortal burrow]

if I want to do it on ilevel

[burnt tree]

i say while i have fire 30 ong

[mortal burrow]

the dps req just seems huge..

[thorny olive]

Damage

[mortal burrow]

at 1720..

[burnt tree]

just use 24 set?

on god

[swift tree]

+10% damn

[burnt tree]

and we got time till january or december or w/e

FOMO cards damn

[celest tiger]

450 bars

[burnt tree]

|| ||

[thorny olive]

Changing cards every sub gate

[swift tree]

why bother FOMO

[mortal burrow]

b/c

[burnt tree]

agreed

[swift magnet]

i used 20 selectors for both earthsets cuz i wanna be done with mordumb as fast as possible xD

[mortal burrow]

I keep fucking etting

NINEVEH

[thorny olive]

Dude, this is the hardest set for me, I had to unpack cards

[mortal burrow]

WHEN I MAXED HER OUT

[burnt tree]

i wont fomo myself for 4% more elemental damage

nuh uh

[celest tiger]

One day I'll work on those

[broken lava]

Please Note that the DPS reqs. are always based on no Siderial usage.

[mortal burrow]

would u do it for 24 set

🤔

[burnt tree]

nope

[swift tree]

my lowest legendary

[mortal burrow]

I have like

[burnt tree]

all my tier 4 sets are either 30 set or near completion

[mortal burrow]

15 selectors rn or something

[swift magnet]

nah its more like i know how that will end. i keep em until i got all the cardsets without opening them

[burnt tree]

and i have 25 selectors atm

[thorny olive]

Might aswell include sid because there's 4 other people who deal z dmg

[swift magnet]

happened to me with los and klc xD

[broken lava]

[thorny olive]

Too many of her

[burnt tree]

i need 8 brel 1.0s

[mortal burrow]

would u

like to trade

:>

[burnt tree]

and probably 6 Luens since the Anika merchant has sold Luen 1 or 2 times on Ratik

[swift tree]

only raid card I have finished is Akkan

[thorny olive]

Koko

[burnt tree]

no? i like when my 1700 Valk is accepted in 1730+ drex lobbies

[swift magnet]

fireset cards i get alot

[swift tree]

(Behemoth and Echidna not included as theyre T3)

[mortal burrow]

i mean tbf drex is ez af tho