lost-ark-discussions

[dapper gorge]

where tf is this quest

[worldly hawk]

are you 1640?

[dapper gorge]

o

no

[worldly hawk]

because that's where you unlock it

[wise pasture]

at 1640+ down here in kurzan city

[dapper gorge]

just got to 1540

[swift tree]

yeah that'd do it

[dapper gorge]

tf do I do now

[wise pasture]

[worldly hawk]

hone to 1580

[dapper gorge]

well

[swift tree]

Kayangel, Brelshaza to get to 1580

[dapper gorge]

fuck

[wise pasture]

do other stuff

[dapper gorge]

reset just happened

gotta kill monkey again

[worldly hawk]

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-monke-monkey-spin-ape-gif-25078721

[dapper gorge]

I hate that monkey

hes so annoying

[swift tree]

Tree is a smoother fight but you get some dummies in matching

[zealous lintel]

ayooo, leave the gorilla alone!

[wise pasture]

it is very skill based fight, if you do well you get great benefits, if you do bad, he will crush your soul, body and yeet your ancestor into chasm

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/giggle-chuckle-hahaha-holding-laughter-gif-15462551

I still dont understand how can some people have issue with tree till this day

[obtuse oyster]

they don't know how to press skills

[wise pasture]

every person we ever showed tree was able to do just fine without watching any guide, just telling him: dont stand in beam, look away from light, dont stand close on spin and there is destruction check

[sullen meteor]

Does the box reset every week from crucible? Cuz I've heard conflicting takes on it

[dapper gorge]

anyone on NAE wanna come kill monkeh with me ?

[dapper gorge]

all the way in the coerner

the thing was bad so it goes into the bad kid corner

[wise pasture]

generally best to put it directly corner and run to middle tile since that wont break on single meteor

[sullen meteor]

yeah like the boxes you get for clearing hp thresholds

[dapper gorge]

should I replace it ?

[wise pasture]

[swift tree]

roll it first

[wise pasture]

quality 68+ anything else after

[swift tree]

they could have just reduced the petrification timer (to like 3 seconds) instead of just yanking it

[cinder mango]

oh no

[dapper gorge]

anyone on nae wanna join me for hanumatan ? :^)

[sullen meteor]

nothing crazy until you pile up all the bosses every week

[cosmic flame]

@safe lark wanna trade gr

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

can do

[cosmic flame]

ok go to rats

inv me I'll do yours first

[safe lark]

my next week main 1st

[cosmic flame]

[safe lark]

FMH vs TTH

didnt decide yet

[quiet flower]

Keep honing

[dapper gorge]

im missing 2 pieces

[quiet flower]

Go get 'em

[cosmic flame]

tbh

[dapper gorge]

cant

[cosmic flame]

go tth

[dapper gorge]

next week

[cosmic flame]

fmh is so fucking boring

[dapper gorge]

i need 105 brel mats

[quiet flower]

[safe lark]

im more towards SE

[quiet flower]

I was even debating a 3rd one with the PowerPass

[cosmic flame]

just go NE

[quiet flower]

NE is boring

[cosmic flame]

I have 4

[safe lark]

FMH *

[cosmic flame]

fuck you mean NE is boring

fmh is so ahh

[quiet flower]

Big number go brrr

[cosmic flame]

https://tenor.com/view/sybau-lore-game-roblox-pot-head-sybau-lore-game-gif-2917537252504674983

[quiet flower]

Instead of "look at me spin my scythe"

I need a 6th gold earner but wtf do I pick

[cinder mango]

select valistia

[quiet flower]

Valkyrie looking kinda meh

[safe lark]

im addicted to spec classes

slow and boring

[quiet flower]

Big number makes dopamine go up

[cosmic flame]

go blunt thorn

you will love it

https://tenor.com/view/cat-asian-chinese-silly-ccp-gif-17771773925036748435

[storm bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-ching-cheng-hanji-chinese-chinese-tom-tom-and-jerry-gif-18775286

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/china-gif-26678009

[cinder mango]

what the

[safe lark]

where gold

[cosmic flame]

no gold if its with yorgh

[safe lark]

true

5x no gold

[cinder mango]

no more gold

[safe lark]

i go main.

[cosmic flame]

come on your t4s

if you have left

[safe lark]

[cosmic flame]

dude

i got a lot

so lemme finish all of yours

lmao

[uncut dirge]

how hard will the dps check be in strike raids?

[tulip charm]

wait, hold on, i thought you get to choose the chest you get

you didn't have to take the bracelets

[safe lark]

guy got gold

i hate him

[cosmic flame]

its ok I only got 1 bar

yesterday

from 22 chars

[thorny olive]

2 hard 4 u

[quiet flower]

Toxic

[thorny olive]

[cinder mango]

bye bye i am falling

[safe lark]

ok now im done

[thorny olive]

Nooo

[quiet flower]

You love to see it

Reddit is full of "New/Returning" posts

[thorny olive]

And they get bullied in brel :(

[cosmic flame]

oh boy time for sona x1000

[storm bronze]

115g abidos

[thorny olive]

Whoa that dropped quick

[sullen meteor]

panic sellers

[storm bronze]

i have so much abidos to sell

[quiet flower]

New players have it easy with Brel

We had to do SIX gates

[uncut dirge]

i have so much abidos to sell too

and idk if selling them is even worth it now

[thorny olive]

no

Why did u wait so long

[quiet flower]

Greedy

[uncut dirge]

i didn't

i just craft more

[thorny olive]

Ah

[uncut dirge]

as i've done since release

[thorny olive]

[uncut dirge]

only time abidos has dropped like this is when game got invaded by bots

[quiet flower]

This time it's because of Paradise

[storm bronze]

that's my only source of gold

[thorny olive]

Or everytime an express comes

[uncut dirge]

yeah and i wonder if this is going to destroy life skilling

[uncut dirge]

express has sent it up

[thorny olive]

[quiet flower]

Advanced Honing 21-40 increased it

Now people are done with it

[sullen meteor]

nah its the paradise hype

[uncut dirge]

if that were the case the life skill mats would fall in conjunction though

yeah what joey said

it's paradise

[thorny olive]

It's the 2k abidos

[quiet flower]

[thorny olive]

Everyone will get

[cinder mango]

bro brels gate 4 stuck

[uncut dirge]

but now the question is whether this will actually impact prices a lot or not

[sullen meteor]

if even the average is 500 per run

that's 1500 per character

[wise pasture]

in 1720 hm, for average person quite hard

[uncut dirge]

yeah im thinking this too

[cosmic flame]

no its not

[thorny olive]

Yea, it can be a decent chunk, but isn't it RNG

[cosmic flame]

its 200m min dps

[uncut dirge]

even a few hundred is going to massively reduce fusion prices

because people will simply only use those fusions for their alts

[cosmic flame]

if you can't do 200m dps at 1720

[uncut dirge]

and never other fusions

[cosmic flame]

you're cooked

[sullen meteor]

not that big an rng tho

well

it is giga rng

[thorny olive]

[sullen meteor]

1-20 per roll and you get 5

[wise pasture]

200 on something which isnt a trixion dummy yes

[sullen meteor]

without any altar

[cosmic flame]

at 1720? cmon now

its 200m without sidereal

[uncut dirge]

i think feryn's right

looking at mordum hm

[cosmic flame]

mordum is 1700

this is 1720

with AH

[uncut dirge]

200m at 1720 is only those that play well and are well equipped

yeah but that gives you what

[wise pasture]

I saw 1722 db do 140 in drex with sup... so you know

[uncut dirge]

10% more damage?

[sullen meteor]

I mean didn't kr say this guy is just a big guardian raid

[thorny olive]

Shame most 1720s can't even deal 150m dps

[uncut dirge]

doubt it even makes up for how much the boss moves

[cinder mango]

i am gonna cry

[worldly hawk]

i'm doing more than that at 1690

[quiet flower]

Don't cry, just improve

[worldly hawk]

[uncut dirge]

from what i understand strike raid is more like G2 than G3

[wise pasture]

if we get and hp nerf and the orb does how much i would expect it should be fine

but otherwise the average joe will have issue

[thorn basin]

i kidnap you for guardians today

[worldly hawk]

my mordum NM this week

[midnight marlin]

4man is a guardian raid, 8man is a full prog raid

[cosmic flame]

if desert can do strike raid

dps min

[uncut dirge]

and how much was your G2

[cosmic flame]

at 1690

you have no excuse

what so ever

[sullen meteor]

I meant in behavior

[thorny olive]

Is strike raid a trixon dummy like mordum

[worldly hawk]

110

because fuck that gate

[wise pasture]

no

[thorny olive]

Then it's invalid ..

[wise pasture]

nm ye

[worldly hawk]

does the strike raid move as much as G1 and G2 mordum

[thorny olive]

Mordum G3 is not accurate for anything

[quiet flower]

If it does then I'm not honing

[worldly hawk]

G1 mordum is bad game design

the gate is more standing around than fighting

and G2 is just annoying

[wise pasture]

G3 mordum is just better trixion dummy

[safe lark]

We're nothing but dust

[uncut dirge]

what prompted my question about the dps requirement is basically

should i push a support to 1720

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[uncut dirge]

and how geared would i have to make that support to not struggle

[cinder mango]

no hel cat

[uncut dirge]

im guessing full level 7 gems isn't gonna be enough

[wise pasture]

unless you have hands nope

[cosmic flame]

1720 with 7s

[uncut dirge]

people always say this

[wise pasture]

1720 with 7s is a joke honestly

[ebon snow]

Run full 6s

[uncut dirge]

they said the same thing about 1680 months ago

[quiet flower]

I've seen 1720s with T3 7s

[worldly hawk]

🐀

[quiet flower]

[uncut dirge]

but the numbers keep moving up

[wise pasture]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiYXd14Wd4w

[cosmic flame]

thats me on my db

[uncut dirge]

same with mordum "7s on mordum?!" and now it's fine

[cosmic flame]

I have t3 7s

[wise pasture]

here you have memos strike raid

[cosmic flame]

not even full set

[worldly hawk]

full 7s on 1680 are fine

[wise pasture]

ye cause it was nerfed by 20%

[worldly hawk]

always have been

[uncut dirge]

yes, and months ago people would've said "you really should have 8s at 1680"

the gem requirement obviously decreases over time in relation to ilvl

[worldly hawk]

1700s should at minimum have 1 or 2 8s or lvl 10s T3s for 40% skills

[uncut dirge]

but since ilvl doesn't actually get cheaper it doesn't matter much

[quiet flower]

My gems on 1680

[uncut dirge]

nice

could've used them to be 1700 instead

[quiet flower]

I used them to not be so ratty

But I do ZDPS anyway

[ebon snow]

He put 6 in middle

[swift tree]

I have 3 level 8s and all 7s now

[uncut dirge]

the gems aren't gonna make much of a real impact on combat anyway

[swift tree]

still working on it

[quiet flower]

Where else would you put them

[burnt tree]

He wouldn't get 1700 with the gold those 8s would bring anyway

[quiet flower]

I don't have enough Destiny Shards to hone to 1700

[swift tree]

this ngl

[uncut dirge]

really?

[thorny olive]

It's not even a game at that point, it's an interactive "movie"

[swift tree]

Unless you have 4000 fusions sitting around, no

[uncut dirge]

level 8 T4 gems are 328.9k for the cheapest

[obtuse oyster]

he definitely could

[quiet flower]

I made the level 8s myself, I didn't buy any

[obtuse oyster]

it's quarter of a mil per 8

[burnt tree]

IF he was lucky ig

[thorny olive]

Wow they went up

[burnt tree]

Also Abidos prices are ass

[obtuse oyster]

the 4 cds is already over a mil

[swift tree]

low-key games are interactive animations

[burnt tree]

Loki that's true

[obtuse oyster]

not even lucky

[uncut dirge]

so replace the 8s with 7s and he'd have 1.75 million extra gold

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-tom-hiddleston-loki-gif-10593267

[obtuse oyster]

I spent 1.4mil to get 1700

and I was on the unlucky end

[burnt tree]

Ure so lucky sir IceeWinterington

[obtuse oyster]

sir

[quiet flower]

I got so tilted doing G1 Mordum last night - Every time I pressed my burst he did a movie

Rip DPS

[obtuse oyster]

I pited 17-18 on 4 armors

[thorny olive]

They already dropped to like 115g

[burnt tree]

Damn

[ebon snow]

Just free tap to 1700

[quiet flower]

Where can I get this luck

[obtuse oyster]

17 wep went on pity and 18 went on 90+ art

[burnt tree]

We gonna pretend 115g is a big diff?

[swift tree]

next week down to 60

[quiet flower]

I've only succeded 1x free tap this entire event

[burnt tree]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/s/Nf8NwrpC3K

[thorny olive]

Yes?

[uncut dirge]

11-20 AH is 409k raw gold, 2.4k fusions
17-18 honing is 429k raw gold, 3.5k fusions

[burnt tree]

Apparently its 2k from 1640 Paradise

[thorny olive]

115g vs 150g

[burnt tree]

So 1680 one might have even more

[obtuse oyster]

level 100 tho

[swift tree]

for 100th floor clear

[burnt tree]

Yeah

But still

BIG MASSIVE

[obtuse oyster]

which is omega luck saccign

imagine hitting all lucky rooms and then a mega lucky at the end of cube

kind of luck saccing

[burnt tree]

Its ok Alysandra will get them back to back

[thorny olive]

Basically, you either get nothing or u get big?

[obtuse oyster]

nah

[quiet flower]

Then complain it's not enough

[obtuse oyster]

level 30/40 is decent

[burnt tree]

Probably

[obtuse oyster]

if you get fusion chest

[thorny olive]

Because I will hit all the worst rolls

[burnt tree]

Floor 40-49 gives 225 abidos

[obtuse oyster]

@thorny olive

[burnt tree]

At 1640

[thorny olive]

So my expectations aren't high

[cosmic flame]

my alts to the moon

[obtuse oyster]

everyone alts to the moon

cause no limit unless they change it for us

[ebon snow]

Time to play 2-3 velkyries

[burnt tree]

Basically floor 40-49 is the bigger jump in rewards

[thorny olive]

That's cute

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[thorny olive]

At least it doesn't have silver

[burnt tree]

Time to make Jin raid on my Valkyrae

Ops thats a streamer

Damn auto correct

[thorny olive]

Sadly it has shards

I'm gonna get shards..

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/valkyrae-rae-twirl-delulu-infatuated-gif-14371675655006056162

[ebon snow]

[thorny olive]

😭

[cosmic flame]

i need shards

[burnt tree]

I need Abidos

[obtuse oyster]

there's worse than shards

[thorny olive]

NOOO

[burnt tree]

Free taps are phased out at 1680 i think?

[obtuse oyster]

that's datamine tho

[burnt tree]

Yeah

[obtuse oyster]

so we don't actually know

[burnt tree]

Frfr

Plus its CN anyway

[obtuse oyster]

cause people datamine "classes" that never came out

[burnt tree]

The Demon Executioner from Mobile was datamined for PC

But its on mobile

Ggwp

[sullen meteor]

is considering floor 50 an average possible

because 900 fusions a week

is cinema

[burnt tree]

Souleater was datamined in 2017 as well

[thorny olive]

20 avg for u

[sullen meteor]

wtf

meanie

[thorny olive]

[burnt tree]

100 will be avg for Zheng but he will still complain

"Oh im so poor"

[thorny olive]

And 1000 for Aly but also complain

[burnt tree]

Nah Aly isn't as lucky as Zheng

Zheng has had 3 sidereal drops

[ebon snow]

So that table is rng?

[obtuse oyster]

it's cope

[burnt tree]

Yes

But tbh as long as you avg 40+ floor its good

[sullen meteor]

I like how all the rewards are nice for floor 100

but then you look at shards

lmao

[thorny olive]

Poor guy, only 3 on the region it's worth 2m each

[burnt tree]

Lmao

[sullen meteor]

The other boxes at 1680 are mostly comparable with the table in the main post, just a bit more juiced (e.g. at level 100 the difference is 108k gold instead of 96k, 2750 fusions instead of 2000, etc).

doesn't look like that big of a difference

[cinder mango]

guess why I died

[thorny olive]

Didn't go in portal

[cinder mango]

invert mech

[thorny olive]

Awaa

:(

You're almost there!!

x14

So close!!

[worldly hawk]

you can use inana to cleanse the invertion debuff

[wise pasture]

Cleanse the evil, elementals!

[thorny olive]

[cinder mango]

ty

[cinder mango]

yes

[burnt tree]

Inyanya

[thorny olive]

Yayaya

[worldly hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/ayaya-saturated-triggered-scream-lol-gif-16437115

[burnt tree]

Dating Azenanna would be the best

2 in 1

The dommy and the subby

[worldly hawk]

i'll just take the subby tyvm

[cinder mango]

Don't worry, mistakes are what lead you to victory.

[worldly hawk]

my fragile ego can't handle beeing dominated

[quiet flower]

Or just date a switch

[burnt tree]

She's basically 2 souls in 1 body

She's a switch in the literal terms

[quiet flower]

But do you get to choose who comes out though

[burnt tree]

Well they can switch whenever they want

[quiet flower]

"Sorry babe, I don't feel like getting stepped on tonight, please bring out your other self"

[burnt tree]

Technically its not her other self

Its 2 different people

[quiet flower]

So many technicallities here

[burnt tree]

Azena pls switch with Inanna thx

[worldly hawk]

"i want to talk to the subby one, please switch"

[cinder mango]

9 3 12

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-thrill-lucifer-morningstar-gwendoline-christie-the-sandman-its-exciting-gif-26483361

[cinder mango]

memory mech

[thorny olive]

[thorny olive]

We might get like halfed rewards, but it's still good either way

[burnt tree]

The loot is all bound

So i doubt it

[thorny olive]

True

[obtuse oyster]

character bound*

[burnt tree]

Yeah char bound

So nobody can abuse it n such

[obtuse oyster]

if it was roster

it would've been giga shit rewards

or 1 time per roster

[thorny olive]

Ya

[quiet flower]

Guys, should I make a new class for my 6th gold earner with powerpass or make a duplicate of what I have already

[obtuse oyster]

w/e you gonna enjoy

[thorny olive]

I do hope we get like the mention of 1680 table not having silver and fused leaps

But can't know

[thorny olive]

If you make a duplicate it should be an easy class or something you really enjoy, otherwise it can feel like a shore instead with lack of verity

[wise pasture]

you sure?

[quiet flower]

Lots to choose from

[thorny olive]

Wa da

[quiet flower]

Too bad KR doesn't have a ranking system to see how Valk is competing with other classes atm

[thorny olive]

Idk, saw MVP screens of Valkyries being on top, but doesn't necessarily mean anything

[obtuse oyster]

probably overgeared compared to the party

[thorny olive]

It's basically their way of determining if it's good without meter anyway

[thorny olive]

Probably

[obtuse oyster]

cause the last vid sathona sent that valk didn't get underline, I'm pretty sure

[thorny olive]

Poor valk

Already D tier

Buff valk

[obtuse oyster]

average mage player skin

real

[thorny olive]

Me when I can't beat a 1720 on my 1700, BUFF THE CLASS

[quiet flower]

They exist

[thorny olive]

Cute I guess

[wise pasture]

it doesnt really fit together

[thorny olive]

Should have shorts or something

[wise pasture]

ye

[thorny olive]

Even pants

[wise pasture]

very short shorts would make it way better

[thorny olive]

Cute

[burnt tree]

The loot is character bound, you can't send the abidos from alts to main and such

[thorny olive]

Like I think this is cute

[wise pasture]

ye that is way better✅

[burnt tree]

Bitties

[thorny olive]

Cutie shorts over.. dis

[wise pasture]

nod nod

[thorny olive]

If you're naked you're naked, otherwise you wear clothes, not that

[obtuse oyster]

[thorny olive]

Maybe she wanted the panties to look like micro shorts, but idk

[wise pasture]

doubt that, probably just lack of imagination there

[thorny olive]

[thorny olive]

My slayer also has an eyebrow piercing and big earring loops

[obtuse oyster]

nah, he just wanted to be half naked I'm pretty sure

cause I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of skirt options

[wise pasture]

details like that make a big difference

[thorny olive]

Mages always naked bottoms

[thorny olive]

She cute

[slender sky]

people rly followed suit with selling their abidos it will never stop being amusing how fkin dumb ppl are

[lone rampart]

she 🔥

[thorny olive]

Shh, don't tell them!

[thorny olive]

[obtuse oyster]

always the most bait title

[lone rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-jump-jump-dont-eveonline-pubg-gif-14979603

[thorny olive]

I especially hate when it's like a 1670 paladin who names their lobby "fast 80+"

[obtuse oyster]

they missed out on fish gate so now they try to speculate every material market with upcoming events

[obtuse oyster]

and they will be the most rattiest 1670

[uncut dirge]

so how far will the average person get with one hell key?

[thorny olive]

Literally

[thorny olive]

For you, 20

[uncut dirge]

floor 90 guaranteed

right

no, for me it's 90

20 for you maybe!

[wise pasture]

yep, the second i see that, Im instantly clicking next fck em

[quiet flower]

There's too many rats that do this

[thorny olive]

No ur a stink

[quiet flower]

As if being a Support warrants a carry

[uncut dirge]

no u

[obtuse oyster]

I'm gonna spit all, blue isn't getting higher than 10. Purple you're lucky to past 20 and legendary will probably average 30

[uncut dirge]

you missed a b

[slender sky]

hey in the end those 10k abidos they sold will be offset by the 200 abidos you get weekly from paradise......just takes a bit of time

[obtuse oyster]

frfr

[thorny olive]

Yeah, hopefully with the new systems it will be easier for people to tell apart the big rats so they don't feed these shitters

Instead of just joining..

[obtuse oyster]

unless they only get silver/shard/fused leaps

imagine

[slender sky]

yea my first key will def be silver, bracelets and accessories

[uncut dirge]

they're supports, people will just join

[thorny olive]

Mewtoo

[obtuse oyster]

I will cry if my first key is silver/quality taps/bracelets

[wise pasture]

I would take quality taps

[thorny olive]

Surely they'll start looking and gatekeep them

[uncut dirge]

if you get 200 abidos per week per char

[slender sky]

tbh i wouldnt mind quality taps that much

at least somewhat useful

[uncut dirge]

that's 1200 on a 6 man roster tho

[obtuse oyster]

I don't need weapon ones

[slender sky]

all your roster 100q

[charred void]

my single roster pala with 100q weapon

[thorny olive]

Yeah but it's char bound, something people might not realize

[uncut dirge]

didn't i hear something about hell quality taps being better

[obtuse oyster]

idc about alts quality once it's purple

[uncut dirge]

wait no, that was something else

[quiet flower]

So NE that much better than FM

[slender sky]

fair

[quiet flower]

Do I need t o roll back to it on my 2 SEs

[uncut dirge]

i heard there was that guaranteed quality thing

where was that?

[thorny olive]

Why do so many sups have 100q weapon..

[obtuse oyster]

no

[slender sky]

100q harp

[thorny olive]

Depends on content, in general no

[slender sky]

uhh no? NE is pretty shit in almost any content right now

[wise pasture]

in most content the average NE does way worse

[undone summit]

@thorny olive gave @slender sky +1 reputation.

[quiet flower]

I was being gaslighted then

[thorny olive]

NE good, frfr

It's like trolling someone

[slow adder]

hey guys, im a returning player.
I used to main Bard back before Kakul was added and I have done raids on Hard difficulty without much problems.

I can see that there have been tons of updates and changes and wanted to ask is there any support which is wanted more than others in parties?

Also is there no parties for anything T3? Can't seem to match for guardians/orehas well or anything :/

[thorny olive]

It's almost like telling someone to play co summoner back in T3

[undone summit]

@lunar hedge gave @thorny olive +1 reputation.

[ebon snow]

oops

hey guys, im a returning player.
I used to main B*rd back before Kakul was added and I have done raids on Hard difficulty without much problems.

I can see that there have been tons of updates and changes and wanted to ask is there any support which is wanted more than others in parties?

Also is there no parties for anything T3? Can't seem to match for guardians/orehas well or anything :/

[undone summit]

what??? @ebon snow you can't give yourself reputation. I mean, I dig the narcissim, I'd reputation myself hourly if I could

[torn ether]

all supports are good

and yeah t3 is deadzone rn u do solo mode for t3 raids

[charred void]

[thorny olive]

Bard is a beast, bard always best, bard is love 💕

[ebon snow]

relic acc dps

[obtuse oyster]

so based

[slow adder]

oh thats good to see.

Damn i've just got paladin to 1340 and its a pain to solo stuff xD guess i need to get good

[quiet flower]

[wise pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/yeet-lion-king-simba-rafiki-throw-gif-16194362

[thorny olive]

[obtuse oyster]

realistcally, you should only be doing chaos

[slender sky]

the baker special

[obtuse oyster]

cause you don't have solo raids till 1415

[thorny olive]

:(

[slow adder]

I see, thank you very much for the responses.

one more silly question, does it matter which server I play on after the merges or is matchmaking etc region wide now?

[torn ether]

it always been region wide

so u should pick gienah

[thorny olive]

Or ratik

🐀 ik

[torn ether]

dont be a rat

[thorny olive]

🐀 ik is the biggest

[torn ether]

rat is bad

dont be rat

[cinder mango]

boop

[thorny olive]

[slender sky]

only things your server matters for is fieldboss and sailing events? even events like adventure island and chaos gate are region wide nowadays

[torn ether]

ppl do sailing events?

[thorny olive]

Yes

[obtuse oyster]

and duo logging

[bleak zinc]

[slow adder]

thats good to know, my roster with the most progress got lobbed into Arcturus or w/e the server is called, i got my adventure journal 100% up and including punika on there and south vern at 92% so would be a shame if i had to drop it

[thorny olive]

Rough estimate on popular servers

[thorny olive]

Arcturus good

[charred void]

ah yes naw

[obtuse oyster]

that's just chracters created and not population

[slender sky]

nah its okay, as long as youre not stranded on ortuus youre good to go

[thorny olive]

No, that's why I said rough estimate

[lunar hedge]

Surprisingly ratik is gonna beat out brel

[slender sky]

oh yea if you want nightly lumberjack sessions with your friends

[uncut dirge]

wtf how did we lose

[quiet flower]

Hey I was told this game is dying, the numbers are clearly fake!

[uncut dirge]

ratik should be #1!

[thorny olive]

[uncut dirge]

shame

[quiet flower]

Ratik is full of rats, so it can't be #1

[torn ether]

no game is already dead

[lunar hedge]

I mean Ratik would beat brel, if we're not counting on bots

[obtuse oyster]

NAW only has two servers from like 6 or w/e it had originally

[quiet flower]

You know it's bad when there are no bots

[charred void]

[thorny olive]

Would be nice if there was an active roster view, but don't think there is

[uncut dirge]

we should merge gienah + ratik

[cinder mango]

[bleak zinc]

no

[torn ether]

no thank you

[charred void]

no merge gienah with elpon

[slender sky]

the game is dead since over 3 years, there have been about 7 lost ark killer games releasing in that time

[uncut dirge]

gienah and ratik

[thorny olive]

No, Oortus -> ratik

[torn ether]

i dont want rats in my servers

[bleak zinc]

gienah and arcturus so i have both roster combined ^^

[uncut dirge]

i want a single roster

[quiet flower]

I'm getting de ja vu with World of Warcraft here

[thorny olive]

Yes

[obtuse oyster]

it's the gaming world staple

[thorny olive]

Fk u

[lunar hedge]

WoW has been on life support for a long time

[bleak zinc]

xD

[obtuse oyster]

every game is "inster x killer" and every game is "dying"

[quiet flower]

Since 2003 apparently

[uncut dirge]

well tbf

[thorny olive]

[uncut dirge]

the numbers are not looking amazing here

[quiet flower]

Wdym

[uncut dirge]

or rather the fact that they've dropped since brel

[cinder mango]

Can you tell me what the 7 games are?

[obtuse oyster]

it's 8am most na are sleeping or getting ready for work

[lunar hedge]

Remember when ToF is genshin killer? Me neither

[quiet flower]

If Lost Ark had a more casual aspect to it, you'd see more players

[obtuse oyster]

you wouldn't

[quiet flower]

Remember when T&L was meant to be a LA killer?

[obtuse oyster]

the core gameplay is niche

[thorny olive]

Actually it would probably be
Gienah + Arcturus,
Oortus + Elpon,
Ratik would stay intact

[slender sky]

i mean you will never see 100k ccu again, but the game will have its steady playerbase for years to come

[lunar hedge]

ME NEITHER

[uncut dirge]

people always say this but it's kind of irrelevant

because you can just compare to same time frame on back then

[quiet flower]

You don't need 100k CCU to have a good game

[torn ether]

blue protocol is the one i can remember

[uncut dirge]

we don't peak anywhere near wht we peaked on brel

but our lows aren't that much lower than during brel, so maybe there's hope

[quiet flower]

The game was overhyped for release imo

[torn ether]

damn there is still 12k ppl playing tnl for some reason

[thorny olive]

It's fine, as long as it's playable

[slender sky]

uhhhh, diablo4, throne and liberty, chrono odyssey, ashes of creation, poe2, blue protocol

[uncut dirge]

that's more than us

[obtuse oyster]

brel release is coming off of ignite server so not really a "fair" population has been dropping since brel

[uncut dirge]

damn

[quiet flower]

Sunk cost fallacy

[slender sky]

thats some of the ones i remember

[thorny olive]

U do like seeing new players though

Or returnees

[slender sky]

i know, 100k ccu is nuts, but for some reasion ppl have a hard time differing between ccu and actual playerbase

[cinder mango]

diablo 4 (failed), throne and liberty (failed) chrono odyssey ( will be failed)

[slender sky]

i know?

[uncut dirge]

that's true, but i doubt this year's ignite will spike as high

[slender sky]

[uncut dirge]

unless paradise is some killer thing

[quiet flower]

Imagine trying to filter your lobbies against 100k rats

[cinder mango]

who's a plus publisher

[quiet flower]

D4 didn't fail

[obtuse oyster]

doubtful, cause once again the core gameplay is what is gonna keep most people away

[quiet flower]

D4 is unironically what got me into LA btw

[torn ether]

depends on what u concider failing

[charred void]

need option to filter by upcoming gearscore

[obtuse oyster]

they can ease the barriers of gatekeeping, lower the investment cost to push, make honing free, or give everyone a free ride to kaz

and the casual audience will always drop this game eventually

[quiet flower]

Just ban everyone who is toxic to players in lobbies because they made a mistake

[uncut dirge]

well you need casual gameplay

not the systems being more casualized

[charred void]

you can pick up mokokos

[quiet flower]

Yes

[obtuse oyster]

not really for these kinds of niche game

[quiet flower]

I'm talking casual aspects like collection farming

[torn ether]

now thats content

[quiet flower]

Imagine being able to customize your Stronghold more

Without just buying structures

[charred void]

try doing it blind, now you have 1 year of content

[obtuse oyster]

you just need enough sustainable players

[cinder mango]

Sorry, there is no better looking mmorpg than LA (free or paid)

[obtuse oyster]

the whales are basically keeping the lights on

[quiet flower]

FF14 is ok with mods (it's shit on its own)

[obtuse oyster]

and everyone that fills the middle gear bracket to upper bracket, keeps the material market alive

[torn ether]

i will never understand why ppl play ff14 either

like i dont judge furries but still why

[quiet flower]

A lot of it is just for socializing

[torn ether]

imagine going outside

[quiet flower]

Since there's nothing else to do in teh game

[quiet flower]

No thanks

Last time I went outside I got my heartbroken

[cinder mango]

I hate Lost Ark but I love it so much, I wish a game like it would come out but I don't think it will.

[torn ether]

go out with dudes

they wont break your heart

[quiet flower]

[obtuse oyster]

xdd

[charred void]

its the best mmo on the market

[obtuse oyster]

[quiet flower]

"Best" is subjective here

[torn ether]

in what way

best is objectively wrong there

[charred void]

it has everything for everyone

[cinder mango]

What if Lost ark was owned by NCSoft?

[quiet flower]

Wrong

[charred void]

whats missing

[torn ether]

absolutely wrong

[quiet flower]

Then it would be even more dead

[torn ether]

garbage combat for example

[obtuse oyster]

game would've died within the 1st year of west releasse

[slender sky]

then the lights would be out since 2 years

[burnt tree]

Combat is subjective

[cinder mango]

https://tenor.com/view/spicyaes-gif-8157143287847262924

[charred void]

runescape combat is superior to it then?

[torn ether]

come on now ff14 combat isnt good

[uncut dirge]

why?

[burnt tree]

I like action combat more, but FF14s isn't bad nor bothers me

[charred void]

which mmo has good combat

[torn ether]

im not that old

[burnt tree]

Instead of saying it isn't for you "nah game sucks"

[torn ether]

lost ark

[quiet flower]

RuneScape combat is also shit

[charred void]

thats not an mmo

[uncut dirge]

blade & soul

[burnt tree]

Who?

Swipe your Soul?

[torn ether]

ah yeah sorry online arpg

[cinder mango]

Which company is currently producing the highest quality Korean MMORPG game?

[quiet flower]

SmileGate

[uncut dirge]

ncsoft

probably

[burnt tree]

NCsoft???

TL is a failure on Korea

[charred void]

why

[burnt tree]

The MMO they were developing with Sony apparently got cancelled as well

[charred void]

they succeeded in the initial cashgrab

[burnt tree]

Blade and Soul isn't doing well in ages

[charred void]

they dont produce mmos for longlivity

[cinder mango]

I played Blade & Soul but I don't know why I abandoned that game

[obtuse oyster]

cause it's kekw

[quiet flower]

because it's bad

[burnt tree]

BnS2 was doa

[uncut dirge]

guild wars is also ncsoft

[obtuse oyster]

didn't neo also doa

[burnt tree]

Guild Wars isn't that popular in Korea afaik

[burnt tree]

Yes

[quiet flower]

Neo is BnS2

[burnt tree]

Neo isn't BNS2

[uncut dirge]

all the lineages are ncsoft, aion, blade & soul, wildstar, throne and libert

aion 2!

[burnt tree]

BnS2 was a mobile game sequel

[uncut dirge]

guild wars 3!

[obtuse oyster]

BNS2 is its own thing

[burnt tree]

That did horribly

[quiet flower]

Oh

[obtuse oyster]

NEO was a reboot of BSN

[quiet flower]

I repressed the mobile game so hard I forgot about it

[burnt tree]

NEO is a fancy title for Classic

[uncut dirge]

look

the best MMORPG is actually path of exile

[quiet flower]

I'm still mad at NCSoft for closing down my favourite game growing up

Shit company

[burnt tree]

And NEOs progression is worse and more P2W than the base game

[uncut dirge]

why?

[quiet flower]

Never played it

[uncut dirge]

because 50 years from now path of exile will launch a league

[obtuse oyster]

and didn't release with all the classes

[uncut dirge]

and people will still be hyped for it

somehow

[charred void]

new league

[quiet flower]

PoE is kinda dull ngl

[obtuse oyster]

that's how arpg games go

[burnt tree]

Yep but the main issue is, released without PvP, P2W skills, and future updates worse

[quiet flower]

OSRS being FoTM was unexpected

[uncut dirge]

it's the future of MMOs

[burnt tree]

Lost Ark is currently the best non-sub MMO

[uncut dirge]

even osrs does it

like that's how OSRS has hit its player peaks

[obtuse oyster]

new leagues are basically content expansions of the mmo world and most arpgs players are market goblins, so new league = new market to try to min max currency

[quiet flower]

Who here remembers Riot MMO being a thing

[burnt tree]

And FFXIV doesn't suck just because you don't like tab target, you're simply not the targeted audience

[quiet flower]

Perma in development

[burnt tree]

It restarted development no one cares

[quiet flower]

The combat sucks because it's slow imo. WoW has superior combat

[uncut dirge]

i think it's the "exploration of new stuff"

[burnt tree]

We will be dead by the time its playable

[uncut dirge]

ie new builds, new content, new gearing systems etc

i think this is why people jump from mmo to mmo too

[obtuse oyster]

gonna keep a buck league mmo is gonna follow the same path as lost ark release

[burnt tree]

My point remains unchanged frfr

[uncut dirge]

they just like exploring new shit

[obtuse oyster]

1mil players on launch

[uncut dirge]

and new leagues give them something like that

[obtuse oyster]

40k in 3 years

[burnt tree]

FFXIV in Korea did get more traction surprisingly

Due to Lost Ark exodus and some other updates

[obtuse oyster]

cause it's never gonna hit the nostolgia that people are looking for with every new game release

[uncut dirge]

guys

i found a better MMO than lost ark

[burnt tree]

No

[charred void]

something outside of korea?

[quiet flower]

People still play BDO

[burnt tree]

BDO is only doing well in the West

[uncut dirge]

rip ark

[quiet flower]

[burnt tree]

Korea gives no fucks about it anymore

[obtuse oyster]

BDO is

[torn ether]

not even top 100

[charred void]

but it has 50 different classes hello?

[torn ether]

what is legends of idleon

[uncut dirge]

black desert is at 20k on steam btw

wtf

[obtuse oyster]

the entire gameplay is either running in circles to get a upgrade after months, life skilling do the same thing, or pvping in node wars

[uncut dirge]

i imagine it's an idle game

but that's based on the name alone, i've never heard of it

[obtuse oyster]

I really don't get how people can enjoy bdo man

[burnt tree]

How many of them are AFK auto fishing

[obtuse oyster]

their content is always "new grind spots" or "new carrot (gear)" to chase

just ot do the same extact thing they been doing for years

[burnt tree]

And the PvP is fighting over who gets the best farm spot

[torn ether]

it is lol

[burnt tree]

Peak game

[uncut dirge]

we're losing to this

[burnt tree]

Who cares

Truly

[torn ether]

looks like side kick of maple story

[charred void]

i enjoyed being officier in a mass 250+ guild with focus on guild quests/guild expansion 👍 was fun for a while now i chill in lost ark

[uncut dirge]

this is my next MMO

it has more players than lost ark, which means it's a better game

[burnt tree]

..

[quiet flower]

Wallpaper Engine is in top 10 most played on Steam

[charred void]

rimworld also better game than lost ark

[burnt tree]

So when y'all quitting for these "games"?

[quiet flower]

They never will

[uncut dirge]

on the bright side

[charred void]

already did

[uncut dirge]

maplestory is 133rd

clearly it's a worse game than lost ark

[burnt tree]

Cause we got these weirdos posting who we losing too when they are different genres and different audiences

[cinder mango]

dbd when

[burnt tree]

Like just quit pls thx

[charred void]

remember to send me gems i need them in 1 month

[quiet flower]

If one thing is consistent in any online game, it's players trying to say why that game is dead and why another game is better

[charred void]

people just stuck in 1 game and forgot how to launch another game

[uncut dirge]

oddly enough that didn't happenw hen i played osrs

[burnt tree]

Who cares

[quiet flower]

Probably you were too bored to think about how bad OSRS is

[cinder stag]

If i chose to make a story character should i kt north vern?

[cinder mango]

https://tenor.com/view/spicyaes-gif-8157143287847262924

[charred void]

this was at 210 hours like a week ago, so technically i quit lost ark for around 50%

[cursive ruin]

losing to blender

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[uncut dirge]

well, let's be fair

[swift tree]

who tf uses Blender via Steam?!?

[uncut dirge]

blender is a very good program

but what barachan said

who the hell uses blender through steam

[cinder stag]

Nah.. Losing to jurassic world evolution 2 IS CRAZY

[cursive ruin]

i didn't even know it existed on steam and it has more players than this dog game

[cinder stag]

I hear that shit is horrible game and has become free MULTIPLE times lol

[swift tree]

people waiting for July update QoL

[burnt tree]

Blender isn't a game..

Are people serious

[quiet flower]

Room temp IQs here

[torn ether]

yeah we will peak at july

[swift tree]

Steam also lists its Software toolkits

[charred void]

but steam is a gaming platform

[cinder mango]

for hours...

[burnt tree]

Yeah people make porn from that

Like cmon

Why wouldn't it be popular

[torn ether]

[swift tree]

Ah yes, the famous game, Creation Kit and Source SDK 2007

[charred void]

fake games

[cinder stag]

They usually use renpy too

[torn ether]

wallpaper engine

[burnt tree]

People extract models from characters in games and seggs them

[torn ether]

best game ever

[cinder stag]

My goldfish, my goldfish told me that O.O

[swift tree]

Surface Painter

Godot

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/pen-pineapple-apple-pen-gif-15346056401886826080

[ebon snow]

?

LOA is literally IdleOn

[charred void]

depends how long you sit in lobby for something

[burnt tree]

40 minutes lobby for 20 minutes raid

[charred void]

at least you can look at other cringers character while sitting in lobby soon

[ebon snow]

also buyer's pov

||how to play lostark in 2025||

[cinder stag]

https://tenor.com/view/деньги-take-my-money-возьмитемоиденьги-gif-21984393

[uncut dirge]

because it's through steam

that's the weird part

[burnt tree]

Some people are obsessed having their stuff on Steam so idk

[cinder mango]

|| How to be trusted in Lost Ark 2025?||

|| you can't||

[burnt tree]

Drop 5 dollars and pray

[cinder mango]

drop 5 dollar for what

[charred void]

spending 5 dollars in a f2p game are you insane

[uncut dirge]

nothing

it wont help

[burnt tree]

Idk mate, we can't manifest trusted and talking about it won't make it happen sooner

[torn ether]

u need to drop at least 5 dollars to get trusted stats

[torn ether]

on steam i think

[wise pasture]

not anymore

[burnt tree]

That was always an assumption not a guarantee

[wise pasture]

might help, but that is it

[burnt tree]

But what can you do

AGS won't hand it over cause you may ask for it

[torn ether]

really? i thought it was guaranteed lol

[obtuse oyster]

no

[torn ether]

its stupid anyways

[obtuse oyster]

changed it a while ago

[burnt tree]

Botters dropped the 1 dolla for trusted so changed frfr

[charred void]

too many botfarms abused steam trusted accounts

[burnt tree]

Anyways now nobody knows what will give u trusted

And AGS won't say even if you ask nicely

Or toxicly like most LOA players

[charred void]

one can try to "speedrun" gaining trusted status on a fresh steam account and sell the process to some ethical humans 👍

[swift tree]

Having Steam Guard active is a better chance than spending $

[torn ether]

i dont have it active

never had problems with trusted stats

[cinder mango]

okay

[swift tree]

AGS is fucking weird

[charred void]

hes about to rmt

[torn ether]

ad one more 0 to right and drop it all in loa

u wont regret

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[cinder mango]

But I won't buy $10 for trusted, I will buy it for sexy summer clothes

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-anime-girl-confused-confused-anime-girl-confused-gif-11043332226267312554

[torn ether]

whats ur in game time btw

[charred void]

skins are 25$ i think

[cinder mango]

isn'it 2000 crystal?

[charred void]

no idea i dont spend on lost ark shop

besides character slots

[cinder mango]

322

i was trusted

but i lost

[torn ether]

holy shit

ags is cooking something

[quiet flower]

Stop being a bad apple, clear G4 Brel, and you get it back

[cinder mango]

no

i give up

[quiet flower]

Do you have the Steam app on your phone?

[worldly hawk]

but you were at x14

why give up

[quiet flower]

I found linking the Steam app and using MFA insta gave me Trusted back in 2023 and haven't lost it since

[torn ether]

thats a lie btw i play on and off since release never had my trusted taken off

[wise pasture]

make them step on lego bricks

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-will-patrick-will-tik-tok-stepping-on-lego-patrick-will-lego-gif-18284340

[worldly hawk]

they changed how trusted works since then

[quiet flower]

Oh

[cinder mango]

Please note that the following actions do not grant you Trusted Status automatically:

Making a purchase on Steam of any amount.

Making an in-game purchase of any amount.

Enabling two-factor authentication on Steam.

[charred void]

what if all these 3 things give you trusted

but they tell you they dont

to scare of people

[cinder mango]

https://tenor.com/view/echidna-lost-ark-gif-7946070039038395596

[ebon snow]

👀

[cinder mango]

Maybe it's a trap

if you don't want trust

do not pay

[torn ether]

maybe they have problems about bounding with ppl

[cinder mango]

If I had money, I could buy 2,000 crystals and buy a skin set, but I don't have money, so I would understand more easily.

[quiet flower]

Too many alt roster rats

[cinder mango]

Testing the trust system by taking skin

[obtuse oyster]

blame ignite

[charred void]

so this guy stole all my gold rng