#lost-ark-discussions

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queen grail
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Be honest, who do you think get's most chest? Someone doing 3 guardians per day or someone doing 30?

broken lava
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50/50

queen grail
valid turtle
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@fresh flint best new title xdd

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man everyone is getting relic drops

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havnt seen a single one in 3 years

storm bronze
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Whales bro

nova garden
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I got one good item to drop that I sold

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Been on a dry spell ever since

queen grail
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Do you even play anymore? HUH

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I thought you quit for your gooner gacha game

nova garden
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And valk too

obtuse oyster
queen grail
fresh flint
nova garden
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I did three guardian raids

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I got 30k gold then I logged off.

queen grail
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You did 3 guardians:

"Been on a dry spell ever since".

tulip charm
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🇷 Ⓜ️ 🇹

neon cedar
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Field boss payouts are always so dissapointing tho

tulip charm
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holy, 9k, gratz

neon cedar
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Better than the usual. Ill take it

fresh flint
wintry depot
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ok but enhanced shield is broken on g3

queen grail
fresh flint
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it grosses me out

fresh flint
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i HATE BARDS

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LIKE WHY ARE YOU HEALING WHEN EVERYONES FULL HP

charred void
fresh flint
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PLS WOMAN GIVE US DPS BUFFS

fresh flint
charred void
fresh flint
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whale

charred void
queen grail
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Nice one Noted

charred void
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doing t3 cubes for 40h = 300k gold
digging in dirt for 5 hours = 700k gold

broken lava
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yeah well 2 things

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t3 cubes are shit value

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dirt is glazed with gold dust

fresh flint
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fk u shitboi

broken lava
midnight marlin
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scalp never responded to chris' dm...

fresh flint
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its kinda late anyways

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lol

charred void
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🐓 level?

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fomo title?

midnight marlin
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a good skin?

fresh flint
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well its too late anyhow

worldly hawk
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@fresh flint can i request some cinder pictures pwease ohPwease

fresh flint
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i had my boss change my schedule and i open 2x in a row so im not doing much loa shit

brave gazelle
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Hi

worldly hawk
worldly hawk
fresh flint
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omg the way my first thought was to smack her with a flyswatter

wintry depot
charred void
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hi

obtuse oyster
queen grail
charred void
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-5k gold

fresh flint
fresh flint
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all of main 6 done, no chests

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ugh

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i have 0 hopes for the remainder of this event

charred void
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just do 30 chars then you have a better chance according to aly

wintry depot
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i cant be flat if im fat btw

queen grail
charred void
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then you do 30, get 0

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some guy with 3 gets 3

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you get mad

queen grail
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Yes? Where did I say you 100% get?

obtuse oyster
queen grail
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Probability =/= Promise hm You have a higher chance the more times you spin the wheel, don't mean you'll hit still.

fresh flint
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fuck dude

queen grail
charred void
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get mp efficience engraving

midnight marlin
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play crit

neon cedar
obtuse oyster
charred void
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dont care

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if i no mana i no buttons press

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and this is sonavel so who cares

fresh flint
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i fucking hate this chara

charred void
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or Susge

fresh flint
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it is sona yes

tulip charm
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Is ags ever gonna do anything?

fresh flint
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still aids to play

queen grail
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Sona sucky sucky your mana hm

tulip charm
queen grail
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Dodge more. hm

charred void
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looks fine

obtuse oyster
charred void
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just press buttons 5x per second

tulip charm
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This is gonna be all tth players in 3 weeks

queen grail
fresh flint
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mmmm yes, you naughty naughty

obtuse oyster
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when you cheat in Lost Ark

tulip charm
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Not my screenshot/meter

queen grail
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wtf HUH They are 40k+ now

charred void
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yes Weirdga ?

queen grail
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They were 20k not that long ago when I got 2 hm

charred void
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oreos also werent 125g each

queen grail
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sus ye I know that, this is not an Oreo, this is a kit, that's why I said it hm

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Ya bonobo Madge

charred void
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where do you get oreos from? Weirdga

queen grail
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Bro, these were 20k while Abios was around 110+ sooo

fresh flint
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the fireworks are scaring my baby

midnight marlin
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shoot another in the room

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exposure therapy

fresh flint
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No

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I would rather shove my fingers down your throat

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Come

vagrant cradle
queen grail
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He's not posting fast enough.

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He's finding fake picture.

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Busted.

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Coward, open now.

tulip charm
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6x 1700 unrested chaos, haven’t seen rando bags in 2 weeks

charred void
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just do 30x 1700 unrested and you see 0 too

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fuck off scalp

queen grail
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See, fake picture hm

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Classic liar SAD

charred void
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i had insane luck whole day multiple times and you just pull out 1 rng and its more gold

tulip charm
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Feels like it’s normal for you, you didn’t cut a high/high this week, so you get a grudge bag instead, high high will be next reset

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where is my rng from last year deadge

charred void
queen grail
tulip charm
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are you 1750 yet? everyone on naw is

queen grail
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Baldy is 1760 @tulip charm

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He just made Esther 9

charred void
queen grail
cinder stag
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Didnt really have to lol. I just watched out for the mechanics especially since yellow phase has that wall so i used my dash attack more then the space bar lol using it mainly for yellow phase

obtuse oyster
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streamer luck is sooo crazy

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you made 1mil last week off drops

queen grail
obtuse oyster
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and just dropped a huge relic book again this week

uncut dirge
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You can put shovels in the first tab?

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Huh til

fresh flint
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my cat no liek pickle

obtuse oyster
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she's gonna be 1700 at the rate you're going

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you got the shards?

obtuse oyster
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1720 is probably not likely cause shard gate

queen grail
fresh flint
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i just spend 500k on shards

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NO DIFF

tulip charm
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no raids left, but maybe i should do some echidnas
to save up coins for the lv6 gems thats coming soon

tulip charm
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if there is a 1720 chaos/guardian id be pushing hard for it, but there isn't, not even when strikeraids come out, they only get 1720 chaos/guardian on kaz launch i think

uncut dirge
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so it's a month between pala and strike raid

uncut dirge
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is 1720 guardian even important?

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you're gonna get like what? 10 extra leaps from it?

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150g?

charred void
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thats very important yes

obtuse oyster
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so if you wanted to do it with valk on release, you would need to whale or have a fat amount of gold stockpiled

uncut dirge
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how does strike raid work?

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i heard that one of them oesn't consume one of your 3 weekly raids

obtuse oyster
uncut dirge
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but the other does?

charred void
obtuse oyster
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4 man is for token

queen grail
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I swear my Exca Is just not giving me so much sus @charred void I did like I don't know how much energy and It's only enough for 4x10x2 crafts SAD

obtuse oyster
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8 man is for gold

uncut dirge
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oh

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and there are both 4-man 1680 and 8-man 1680 raids, right?

queen grail
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Pet's should regen 50 times as fast as they do.

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It's so fucking stupid that pet's are legit at 5% energy constantly ree

fresh flint
queen grail
obtuse oyster
charred void
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now he invites

obtuse oyster
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@uncut dirge

uncut dirge
# obtuse oyster

ohhhhh, i see, i didn't even know they were two separate raids

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thanks!

obtuse oyster
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yeah, you wanna atleast get to 1720 for hm

uncut dirge
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my sorc and SE will get there but that's it

queen grail
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@neon cedar Madge Get to work!

uncut dirge
neon cedar
uncut dirge
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what are the best breath unas to do?

broken lava
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none, they gonna be removed anyway

vagrant cradle
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so true

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thank god

uncut dirge
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they're not getting removed tomorrow tho

fresh flint
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@queen grail 1 chest today.

neon cedar
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But then from guild shop and use excess raid mats for jelly beans and forget Una's exist

obtuse oyster
fresh flint
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14 guardians, 1 chest

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honestly this event can suck a nut

tulip charm
dull obsidian
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TIME TO CLAIM MY GOLD RAHHH

obtuse oyster
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@dull obsidian why CN the better region, feelsbadman

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did you get the g4 clear on CN or did it with your friends?

dull obsidian
obtuse oyster
stark sky
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can i have some

charred void
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and how many hours of logging is that

dull obsidian
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I PRAY

queen grail
dull obsidian
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3 GREAT SUCCESS

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+3200g

queen grail
dull obsidian
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ok

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I went from 3.8 -> 5.3m gold

queen grail
dull obsidian
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I should finish this week around 6.2-6.3 then

queen grail
obtuse oyster
queen grail
# fresh flint

Yo, that's at least 10k avg, Pog (I got 5k last night OMEGALUL ) This event man.

stark sky
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ishy ignore me

dull obsidian
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I think if I opened htese I could finish around 6.5

dull obsidian
tulip charm
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i wanted to spend some gold, but nothing to spend it on right now, so i bought some bc

dull obsidian
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nyo

queen grail
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hm Someone buy my neck plz bow

tulip charm
dull obsidian
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send it over here I'll dispose of it

stark sky
fresh flint
dull obsidian
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just get carried

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in the other 1580+ shitters

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literally 5m for 6 guardian kills

queen grail
tulip charm
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i think you guys should save some bc, at least 2k stashed up

queen grail
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If you hit wep's at 20+ 2bgasm so much money saved.

tulip charm
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we haven't got a bonus room in a long time i think

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feels like its gonna come out soon

fresh flint
queen grail
charred void
queen grail
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But ye, It's up to you, don't do it if you feel I'd burn you out @fresh flint Noted

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Maybe just max-rest the other char's then do it.

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At least then you still get 66% of it YEP

queen grail
dull obsidian
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no I don't

fresh flint
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yes

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liar

dull obsidian
stark sky
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🐷

tulip charm
charred void
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fucking specialists man

queen grail
charred void
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specialist pants ofc

queen grail
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Weird combo.

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But ey, I'm not shaming.

queen grail
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A man's gotta wear what a man wants to wear.

charred void
queen grail
charred void
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nice f2p

queen grail
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I'm not f2p OMEGALUL

charred void
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selling boxes for gold Weirdga

queen grail
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Oh, no, I'm not selling them.

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I'm holding them.

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Forever.

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They are MINE!

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Bad gif, 2sec.

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This, better, hm

wind dagger
tulip charm
# charred void

at least you guys have recently sold pants for 250k, we don't even have that on NAw, they bought it all out

wind dagger
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Why are you guys still not sleeping

charred void
queen grail
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@charred void hm

wind dagger
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I have work in an hour Weirdga

queen grail
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Didn't have space for all in the bank.

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KEK most of this is bound trash tho.

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Like the mokokoko skins OMEGALUL

charred void
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ok aly i get it, you have a credit card

queen grail
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Look, freaking meme skins Despairge

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I didn't want to open them so I've just chucked all into one bank.

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Not a fan hm

tulip charm
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toast is here

queen grail
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@charred void Ok, when can you play tomorrow btw?

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You 🦆

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@charred void

charred void
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but i dont have anything left to do besides up to 43 guardian souls, 2h digging and 58 cubes

queen grail
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Even your 🐉's?

charred void
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yes

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im not digging without leap essence and i'm not buying any

queen grail
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Oki doki, guess It's just me flow and satho then Noted

queen grail
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Fair enough

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Damn T4 leaps is taking a massive nosedive because of event OMEGALUL @charred void

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They are like 13-14 now OMEGALUL

tulip charm
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thank you area chat for your timely response, we killed it for gold status

charred void
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send help ch5 field boss, negative damage!!!

tulip charm
queen grail
charred void
tulip charm
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and sometimes i will inspect if 5minutes have passed the boss lost 2 bars of hp

astral ermine
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lowbies that check out your outfit will also try to invite you

charred void
mortal burrow
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mtherfker..

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i pitied my pally wep from 14 to 15

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yesterday

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LMAO

mortal burrow
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but hey

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I got 50k from 4 gold boxes

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:^)

queen grail
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Ey, that's big Noted

dull obsidian
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why is my tskill the highest on EO LMAO

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shadowbreaker third?

tulip charm
dull obsidian
queen grail
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SMH Fucking rolled the last line 5 times and, you know the rest.

dull obsidian
alpine nebula
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Hello would anyone like to run valtan hard mode with me? There is 7 spots left

dull obsidian
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Hello would anyone like to run valtan hard mode with me? There is 7 spots left

alpine nebula
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Hello

dull obsidian
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oh its a real player

alpine nebula
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Yeah i am real player

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⛹️‍♂️

dull obsidian
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if you cant find a group you can solo

alpine nebula
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Yeahhh i hope i can find a group tho i m sick of solo

dull obsidian
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no one here will do valtan seriously

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we will literally 1 hit the boss

high fog
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I think unironically

alpine nebula
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Im guessing no one has under 1490 ilvl gere

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Here*

queen grail
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I need to do Valtan normal deathless.

high fog
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My lowest alt will oneshot the boss

queen grail
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Never got that back in the day.

alpine nebula
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Wait a minute

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Do i not get solo mode tokens from doing group modes?

dull obsidian
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er

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valtan - echidna should give solo tokens

alpine nebula
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Noiceee

dull obsidian
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my lowest alt is 1580

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I'd kill the boss in like

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12 rotations

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with no supp

alpine nebula
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Dang the real challenge seems to be

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Finding 7 people

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😭

dull obsidian
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Valtan is just too old content wise

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if you want an actual raid it would probably be like akkan at the earliest

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some people have 1580 shitters lying around

alpine nebula
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I heard theres gna be an update where we could just run it with less people and ai would join us thatd be so nice

dull obsidian
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what ilvl are you

alpine nebula
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This char im working on is 1480 right now

dull obsidian
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when is the next express

nova garden
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Prolly with valk

fresh flint
obtuse oyster
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unless ags drops something with bootcamp/paradise

lunar hedge
alpine nebula
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Is the group mode diff from solo? O_o

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For valtan

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& i feel like valtan wouldnt take too many runs to clear

lunar hedge
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Only if we get by the first mech of g1

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It's still annoying to do

obtuse oyster
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all 8 people have to eat the orbs correctly

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\

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or wei cheese

alpine nebula
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Mmm I see i see

lunar hedge
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It's the first big wall everyone must climb

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Regardless of item level

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And how geared you are

fresh flint
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wow

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i just made a mistake and opened all of my special hone chests on my aero

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well, my t3 ones

obtuse oyster
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rip

fresh flint
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like why

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WHY

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i didnt need any for my zerker anyways

neon cedar
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Rip

fresh flint
brave gazelle
neon cedar
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1300 in a week and we still have time left

brave gazelle
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Leveling my bard

fresh flint
brave gazelle
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Went from 1250 to 1380

fresh flint
neon cedar
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You can exchange them up for aero too

fresh flint
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none of them hit

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lol

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about to do this stupid hm aegir then go bed

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i open

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zz

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nvm this lobby leader is stupid i alt f4 and go bed

obtuse oyster
fresh flint
obtuse oyster
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ahh

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mood

fresh flint
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Like there’s gatekeeping then there’s sitting in a lobby for 45 minutes to find your perfect candidate

obtuse oyster
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that was a echidna I was in

fresh flint
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It’s annoying. Just fucking pick one and press go

obtuse oyster
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bunch of 1670s and 1680s gatekeeping a bunch of ther 1670s for 1680s

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when like 4 1680s clear the raid fast anyways

fresh flint
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Those 10 ilvls are surely going to be helpful

obtuse oyster
wind dagger
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So I'm at work but nobody is here

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I'm too early it seems

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No wait, a coworker arrived

tulip charm
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while the same 1660s do less dmg than 1640 lopangs, you need to find a good guild to trade carries

covert remnant
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What's an easy class and broken dps?

tulip charm
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your main is already stronk, only need 2 gems, got buffed 40 times in the last 2 years

covert remnant
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That's not my main, it's sh*t anyways on dmg

dull obsidian
tulip charm
dull obsidian
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too real

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I need to get the money bug

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to get to green gold

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made 78k gold from 2 brels

covert remnant
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Is artillerist punishing if you miss meter skills like breaker?

dull obsidian
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all classes are

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miss builder = joever

obtuse oyster
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hand over the gold

dull obsidian
covert remnant
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Ahhh fk it, I can't decide on 6th spot for August express...

tulip charm
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difference between arti and breaker, the breaker player would usually be dead 2minutes into the raid 90% of the time, even with revives
the artilerist player woudn't die, but would most likely explode with full gayge 5minutes later

granite gazelle
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how many of these do you usually get per guardian

covert remnant
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1

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If only one orb

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2 if rested?

granite gazelle
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oh this is two orbs

obtuse oyster
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yes

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gold is rng from collecting orb

valid turtle
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i have no motivation to play rn

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its doomed

obtuse oyster
valid turtle
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no like im gonna raid tomorrow

dull obsidian
valid turtle
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but like

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right now

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currently

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at this moment

obtuse oyster
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Go play some single player or something

valid turtle
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ye i was playing mechabellum

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tft with mechs basically

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i need another good manwha to read

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@dull obsidian give me suggestions

covert remnant
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Archmage returns after 4000yrs

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Just completed yesterday

valid turtle
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what site is it on? its not on book manga

covert remnant
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I usually read on comick

valid turtle
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i binge read A Sense of Amusement

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have you heard of that one?

covert remnant
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Nope

valid turtle
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it was pretty good Okayge

covert remnant
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Also if you want revenge, the devil returns to school days.....peak revenge manhwa

tulip charm
covert remnant
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Hits you with the satisfaction right from chapter 1

dull obsidian
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what are you looking for

valid turtle
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something adventure/edgy idk

dull obsidian
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I just recommend this everywhere now

dull obsidian
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adventure

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there aren't many "adventure" manwha

valid turtle
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not love story shit i basically

dull obsidian
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thats all manga fantasy stuff

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manwha really doesn't cover it atm

valid turtle
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i see

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ok well other stuff like A sense of Satisfaction then

dull obsidian
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send whatever you just said

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I'll see if I got stuff similar

covert remnant
valid turtle
dull obsidian
valid turtle
dull obsidian
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OH

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I got one

valid turtle
dull obsidian
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Asura Scans

The descendants of mankind, born in the labyrinth and raised on the milk of monsters, possessed special strength and strong bodies. When they returned to earth, mankind referred to them as dungeon babies. Among them, Kim Jinwoo was born in the deepest labyrinth."I never tried to become strong, I just wanted to live."From the lowliest excavator t...

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probably read it before tho

valid turtle
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no ive read VERY little tbh

dull obsidian
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oh nice

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read it

valid turtle
dull obsidian
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but I haven't bothered to read it yet

valid turtle
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it looks peak

dull obsidian
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I'm kinda sitting out on the regressor shit atm

valid turtle
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i like that art style

obtuse oyster
dull obsidian
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I'm in my drama phase bro

obtuse oyster
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@dull obsidian this one is better tho

dull obsidian
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I read like 5 chapters and thought it was hot ass does it get better LMAO

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Maybe I misremembered

obtuse oyster
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the pacing is pretty good

dull obsidian
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bro this asura scans group is so ass

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WHY DO THEY KEEP PICKING UP NEW SHIT

valid turtle
obtuse oyster
dull obsidian
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they are like 2-3ch behind

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but the scans are so much better than other places

covert remnant
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😂

dull obsidian
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I got vs bully/org shit

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but I think its all shit

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it has to be shit so the plot can even work

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so I don't like it that much

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@valid turtle do you still want them

valid turtle
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eh

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if its shit im good

dull obsidian
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no like its shit imo

valid turtle
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hmm

dull obsidian
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people still like it

valid turtle
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well send me one and ill see

dull obsidian
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I just don't like it because it has to be that way or the plot never works

valid turtle
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i tend to speed read anyways so if its bad plot i just fly through things

covert remnant
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Are you just looking for specific genre or whatever's good?

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Cause there are so many other good manhwa

obtuse oyster
dull obsidian
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nah but

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it has to be the most rural school possible

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eveyone is a gangsta

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and the class bully and their friends

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parents are giga rich and politicians

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who fund said school so they let their kids pretty much disable other students

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99% of korean delinquent novels/manwha

valid turtle
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except yaoi shit im good on that thanks

lunar hedge
dull obsidian
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unironically though

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It has to be like that

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or the plot doesn't work

valid turtle
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ty bow

lunar hedge
dull obsidian
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@valid turtle I literally cannot find it LOL

covert remnant
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Lol no

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Found it on reddit

dull obsidian
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..

covert remnant
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Praise the guy whoever made it

valid turtle
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im set for the weekend at least

tulip charm
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naw trying to copy korea

torn ether
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we almost saw 10k few days ago

uncut dirge
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i think it's inevitable

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there's little need to for high level people to push so they don't need the gold

wise pasture
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we are gonna get a strike raid at 1720 for hm

uncut dirge
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and with some stuff being quite expensive it makes sense that people would spend it on things like abidos in mari's shop

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yeah, but that's so far away

bleak zinc
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good morning artistHi

uncut dirge
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and with new advanced honing it's easy to hit

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i don't think anybody that did mordum hm is worried about not getting there

wise pasture
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yes, but the advanced honing cost quite a lot to do still

uncut dirge
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yeah, but

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thing is

meager hill
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remember to change to full on grace

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instead of optimal

uncut dirge
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most of the people that did mordum hm weren't 1700

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they were much higher

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so the road is shorter

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and the raid is in september

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mordum came out at the starto f june

wise pasture
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they will need it for kazeros anyway but ye

uncut dirge
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3 months of 100k a week is most of that already

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raw gold at least

wise pasture
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🤨 you arent even reaching raw gold at that point

uncut dirge
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yeah but you'll be close enough

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and people generally have more than 1 char and other income streams

wise pasture
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sure sure

uncut dirge
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i think SG really messed up with brel hard and mordum hard

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and the systems surrounding it

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they somehow created a situation where 1680 is an efficient place to be, but going above 1680 makes it very inefficient and costly

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you barely gain anything from doing so

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your gold per week barely increases and your power barely increases, meanwhile staying at 1680 allows you to not even fill out your karma

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saving you a ton of gold, you won't have 20 advanced honing done at that point either, so everything mordum gives is useless (won't cost any gold either)

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but the moment you start pushing above that you gotta go finish karma for like 400k, then start doing very expensive advanced honing too

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i think people are gonna leave lots of chars a t1680

surreal gyro
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U don't do adv honing 30 to 40 until 1700 +

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U don't have to max karma either except leap and enlightenment

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Its actually not that expensive to get to 1700 on your alts if u have an established roster

uncut dirge
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and idk how easy it will be to actually get into lobbies

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might be fine though with title

surreal gyro
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It's not its an alt

uncut dirge
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but the problem is that even if you do all that you gain what?

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10% more gold per week?

surreal gyro
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Its a lot more but ultimately it's up to you and if u want to commit to a higher roster

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Brel and mordoom are set up in a way where u don't have to fully max their systems

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And thats good imo

wise pasture
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doing last raid on hm was never worth in this game gold wise, it is more about the experience of it

uncut dirge
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just look at how few brel hard lobies there are compared to normals

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and what kind of requirements they have

surreal gyro
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Thats because ppl are trash at the game

uncut dirge
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you want easy entry to brel hard? be at least 1700

uncut dirge
wise pasture
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frijj i take 1690 half the times if they are sensible...

uncut dirge
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kind of like it happened with akkan

surreal gyro
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Well yes when ppl still dont know how g2 works even in NM to this day i have ppl failing

uncut dirge
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where only a minority was doing hard akkan

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rest were doing normal, even on characters above the ilvl

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but i think in this case they're not gonna take those chars above the ilvl in the first place

surreal gyro
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That's a different topic

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But yeah pll don't want to get jailed

uncut dirge
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it's the same one i was talking about

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i think they messed up

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people don't want to push their alts over 1680

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and i don't see what would change their mind at this point

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SG is literally nerfing one of the top 3 raids in gold earning to encourage people to... i don't even know

wise pasture
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shruge the rats, nothing

uncut dirge
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it's not like pushing their char higher is gonna fix it

surreal gyro
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If that was the case we wouldn't be having this argument now would we

wise pasture
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even if they had 1720 with garbage on it I wouldnt take it

surreal gyro
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If majority were 1680 and planning on staying thrre

uncut dirge
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it's something that's going to happen

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just like it was obvious it was gonna happen at 1640

surreal gyro
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It happened on every tier

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Happened woth 1580

wise pasture
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yep

surreal gyro
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1620

uncut dirge
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no

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definitely not to this extent

surreal gyro
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Yes? 😂

wise pasture
surreal gyro
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Whats the extend if anything 1680 is a way better spot

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Like idk why we complaining

uncut dirge
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when kayangel came out people were pushing at least 1540s

surreal gyro
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If u don't wanna push stay 1680

uncut dirge
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including their alts

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and if they could afford it beyond

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because they saw a reason to

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right now there just isn't any

uncut dirge
surreal gyro
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Then don't push

uncut dirge
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"we've decided to nerf all the raid gold, because too many people stayed at 1680 and we don't like that"

surreal gyro
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Yes thats because u dont understand how the games economy worka

wise pasture
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well ofc they are gonna nerf old raids

uncut dirge
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i do understand how it works

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your arguments make it sound like you don't

uncut dirge
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and they still fail to do so

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somehow they keep digging themselves into the exact same hole every time

surreal gyro
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U say u don't have a reaaon to push but u also don't want them to nerf yhe old raid gold

uncut dirge
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yes

uncut dirge
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you do this by creating incentives to push

surreal gyro
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U had 5 years to leaen

wise pasture
uncut dirge
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not punishments

surreal gyro
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Skip h0

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G0

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Heres your incentive

uncut dirge
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like literally

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the easiest one in the world

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increase gold at high level and increase costs

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it just becomes less worthwhile to keep low level alts

surreal gyro
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They will do that woth strike raid

uncut dirge
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but they never learn

surreal gyro
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I mean ppl complain no matter what

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If they did what you're saying ppl will be like oh right p2w shit game

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Theres no win situation , u shud already be aware of what game youre playing and how it works

uncut dirge
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how? you'd make more gold

wise pasture
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people already complained when they left old brel for like 8 months longer with the same gold even tho they shouldnt...

uncut dirge
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no

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people did not complain about that at all

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people complained that it was a 6 gate raid

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and we got it released twice

surreal gyro
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Or how our NM raids still give more gold compared to KR

uncut dirge
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but with brel there was an incentive to push your alts

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nobody left their alts sitting at 1475

wise pasture
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they complained when the reduced the gold of it 8 months after it was meant to be nerfed

uncut dirge
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if they could push them to 1490+ they all did

wise pasture
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essentially giving them 8 months of free extra gold

uncut dirge
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because the game gave them multiple incentives to do so

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because if you were 1490+ you earned more gold from the brel raid

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you also had an easier jump on some ilvls from it

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people back then didn't sit on 1475 alts while having the resources to push them

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they were doing it with T4 release and are doing it now though

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everyone i've talked to about this in game

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has basically decided that they have to funnel everything into their main to be able to reach kazeros

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and despite the raid being 6 months away putting resources into alts to get them beyond 1680 is not going to have much of a pay off

wise pasture
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KEKW well, based on my calculation if you had 1700 x6 char roster if you did what you should, you would reach kazeros on all 6 about a week before release

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and on hm at that at 1730

uncut dirge
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yeah

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and if you're 1730 on release you're not gonna get into any of the decent lobbies

wise pasture
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statics exist

uncut dirge
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i don't think statics want "undergeared" people either

wise pasture
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statics care about your performance more than gear, so if you have no hands obviously not

uncut dirge
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in a conventional sense yes

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but there's only so far hands will get you, especially when you're dealing with new raids

wise pasture
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KEKW actually, i would say there is only so far gear will get you

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hands are way more important

uncut dirge
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there's diminishing returns

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reasonable players are gonna hit them very quick

wise pasture
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I have seen maxed 1700 doing 50 mil and the same character in othes hands was doing 300, so you know...

uncut dirge
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sure, but you're not talking about reasonably good players

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those get kicked out soon enough anyway

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like mordum hm prog

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if a 1700 SE applied they got denied

wise pasture
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im garbage given my disabilities and even i could watch tv after like 15h of mordum mid fight

uncut dirge
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yes but people inevitably fuck up

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so others have to be enough to make up for those fuck ups

wise pasture
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yes, if you fuck up in raids like hm mordum on release, it is generally restart

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easy as that

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dont fuck up, simple

uncut dirge
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yes and when people are on their 150th restart

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somebody always does

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it's not up to you

uncut dirge
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so you take the guys that re overegered enough that if a fuck up happens they can still clear

wise pasture
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KEKW I had well over 350+ still played for like 8h without any issue

wind dagger
uncut dirge
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i'd like to avoid that

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i got close tho, something like 250

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and mordum in particular was finnicky since there were so many things that could mess things up

wind dagger
trail tendon
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anyone else has issues w nontexturestreaming since the last reset?

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me and 3 more people i know have to load for like 15-20min instead of the normal 5-8 min

wise pasture
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it always used to do that on some places

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hence why very little use it

trail tendon
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i mean i love it, it helps my game a lot

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never had an issue with it until this reset

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GPU drivers didnt update on wednesday, was normal before

viscid sand
uncut dirge
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then you look for a new one and they all quit the game again

viscid sand
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If you're not a good match for the group, or if they find that the raid is too taxing on them, then it is what it is

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Such is life

uncut dirge
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idk, i haven't found such groups yet

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it's the quitting that's been the problem

viscid sand
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ultimately, it's difficult to find people of the same wavelength and time commitment

uncut dirge
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so far it's been that the game just pushes them away and they wanna play something else

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and eventually they do

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one of those things being what i mentioned above about the 1680 trap

viscid sand
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i can see pugs needing way higher requirement as always

uncut dirge
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one of them's skipping raids now because he doesn't enjoy the boring hw raid parts

viscid sand
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but a pretty chill static is fine with just being on min-ilvl

uncut dirge
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but he says it's way too expensive to push alts higher for the more interesting raids

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sounds like a great plan to not properly clear

viscid sand
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it depends really

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if the whole group are even remotely decent at the game, doing on-ilvl is just an environment to hehexd without the weight of needing to overgear everything

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in some cases, it's just a trade carry for those with +10ilvls on the raid

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but if everyone in the group are sweats who need to push everything all the time, the one who wants to take a chill pill will definitely feel left out

swift tree
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who then quits and they replace with a sweat

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or someone who RMTs to their position

viscid sand
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and in that case, you're just not in the same wavelength as the group to begin with

uncut dirge
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it's funny

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i've basically been playing with the same people in this game when i do static stuff

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who just quit and come back from time to time

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we've had replacements or been a partial group and all that but something i did notice is that that group's really good

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i guess it makes sense too: the way we met was by trying to find people to bus argos on for our other alts

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so we'd swap people out

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and then later did blind vykas

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so i guess the group kind of self-selected into being a bit better htan usual

wind dagger
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question

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is ark passives now

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the default ones, as strong as when we had the engraving support?

safe lark
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better

wise pasture
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way better

burnt tree
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adriel tsk tsk

wind dagger
bleak zinc
wind dagger
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Brel unlocks more Ark passive right

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With karma

meager hill
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evo tree no, enlight and leap tree yes

wind dagger
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How do you get evolution tree

errant knot
wind dagger
wise pasture
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frijj anybody knows how drex red circles with double counter works in terms of dmg taken? Friend keeps complaining that he is dying at 400k+ hp on bard with heavy armor and meanwhile my chars take like 150-200k without ha on ilvl

thorn basin
dull obsidian
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please

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shame some with the poor

wise pasture
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friend got 200k on drex few mins back and me still nothing since release FeelsReeMan

dull obsidian
faint grove
worldly hawk
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though they were only a myth until then

wise pasture
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they areSadge

charred void
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my highest are still 3 or 4 x 20k Weirdga

dull obsidian
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I've dropped

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1 200k
4 100k
2 50k
??? 20k
??? 10k

dull obsidian
safe lark
slender sky
thorn basin
wise pasture
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KEKW no ty, I prefer booba

uncut dirge
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Relic book from cube? Wow

slender sky
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finally jesus

sand hearth
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Do we get a free powerpass in july update?

cosmic flame
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so we don't know yet

dull obsidian
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nothing was announced
so we don't know yet

cosmic flame
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too stunned you killed me

dull obsidian
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HEY WHAT IS THAT ON YOUR SCREEN

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MODS GET HIM

cosmic flame
thorny olive
cosmic flame
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I don't even

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remember

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ok small corpa

thorny olive
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Yeah idk, I manage to get small corpa of bracelets too, idk why people buy junk

safe lark
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always lucky

thorny olive
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always lucky

cosmic flame
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with 3 options

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never roling that grabo so i listed

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good for a low 1680 alt maybe idk

charred void
dull obsidian
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you should stub your toe

charred void
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thats my 2nd double drop

storm bronze
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ok bezos

dull obsidian
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ok bezos

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?

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says you

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if I am bezos

thorny olive
dull obsidian
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you are elon + zuckerberg combined

thorny olive
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Elon Zuckerberg

slender sky
cosmic flame
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ishy doesn't even have 6m

dull obsidian
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see

cosmic flame
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he's fucking broke

thorny olive
dull obsidian
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even yorgh agrees

storm bronze
dull obsidian
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@cosmic flame please help me convince faded

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to kill his SE

charred void
dull obsidian
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this shit is highkey USELESS

thorny olive
dull obsidian
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he wants to kill tHE TAI SCRAPPER

thorny olive
dull obsidian
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?

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kinda based

ebon snow
dull obsidian
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is this 6c or something

slender sky
dull obsidian
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deathboi fund my blade to 1700

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I'll 6c