lost-ark-discussions

[swift magnet]

hestera garden leaps una

[untold rock]

bro the owl has some nice aura tho damn

[slender sky]

ty for invite

[thorny olive]

oh yeah, earlier in argeos on my wildsoul, I had some weird lag or smth and my bear attacked an extra time

lol

[worldly hawk]

or people gatekeeping 1640s out of argeos, like bitch the guadian is a trixion puppet. you just have to destroy the orb twice and the boss dies

[obtuse oyster]

cheating

[thorny olive]

its weird

[swift magnet]

oh the highping tech xD

[slender sky]

cant tell, never pfing argeos

[thorny olive]

but it should be fixed I think

[worldly hawk]

i just open lobby and accept the first 3 that apply

if support takes longer than 30s to show up i just take a 4th dps

because it literally doesn't matter

slowest argeos i had was 3mins i think with full 1640 lobby

[thorny olive]

yea it's fine even without support

shit dies quick

and worst case u get hyper awakes up

[worldly hawk]

argeos doesn't even have a pattern that hurts

[thorny olive]

and finish it that way

[worldly hawk]

yeah after everyone has hype he just disintegrates

unless you have a 1660 SE that does less damage than my 1580s in sonavel

then you might take 5mins

[thorny olive]

yea I don't undrstand

peekes is like

[obtuse oyster]

real

[thorny olive]

@swift magnet is like 10 dps SE

[worldly hawk]

i would show log, but i only have a screenshot of it with name, caus it wasn't in my argeos

[swift magnet]

[obtuse oyster]

probably can easily find one by mming

[thorny olive]

naw but the class is shit tho

[worldly hawk]

don't want Icee to whack me

head is already dented enough

[obtuse oyster]

[thorny olive]

[worldly hawk]

[slender sky]

cant wait to strip her

[worldly hawk]

sir stop the horny

[thorny olive]

wha

[worldly hawk]

show some restraint

you gotta savor it, enjoy it

[slender sky]

huh

strip se

[worldly hawk]

[slender sky]

you bozos

[worldly hawk]

[thorny olive]

strip her

stripper

[slender sky]

??

class is shit

cant wait to strip her

[thorny olive]

ya

[slender sky]

dumdums

[worldly hawk]

why you so horny tommy

[thorny olive]

he strip her

[swift magnet]

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-cute-boop-jasmine-rat-gif-24958191

[worldly hawk]

[thorny olive]

[worldly hawk]

i think if i can ever affort pets, i'll get rats

[swift magnet]

+6m in 15 min

[thorny olive]

sadly they don't live that long

[worldly hawk]

[thorny olive]

and they can be like small dogs

[slender sky]

calm down

[worldly hawk]

2-4 years

[thorny olive]

[worldly hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wrestling-cat-choking-cats-fighting-cat-meme-gif-4366151393057216025

[thorny olive]

I'd have pet rats too if they lived longer

[worldly hawk]

in the pet world they are called "pocket puppies"

[thorny olive]

yus

[worldly hawk]

[thorny olive]

they are very smart and cuddly

and curious

[queen grail]

4 char's left, @thorny olive still no box.

This might be the day I legit get 0 gold Depressing.

[thorny olive]

ya I got none

[worldly hawk]

FUCK why is it 4am, when did that happen

[thorny olive]

aaaa

[worldly hawk]

🛏️

[worldly hawk]

[swift magnet]

grumpy

[swift magnet]

now her mood is normal xD

[queen grail]

In my Drex

[thorny olive]

WHAT THE BARD

[queen grail]

[obtuse oyster]

a true leviathan, lvl 31 stronghold

[queen grail]

[wintry depot]

cheapo rings

[thorny olive]

[queen grail]

We can't all be you @wintry depot getting HH for 500 gold

[wintry depot]

hes a leviathan, should have HH

[queen grail]

[slender sky]

ofc has ugly skin too

no taste

[obtuse oyster]

the coattail is cute

but I know that shit is 100% not dyeable

[thorny olive]

arna got HH for 500g?

[wintry depot]

no

hes talking about the ring i got yesterday

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/delulu-delulu-land-skipping-sponge-bob-gif-2199534323363290737

[wintry depot]

the dps ring

[thorny olive]

xd

[wintry depot]

but HH rings would be cheaper than that esther 9 unironically

[thorny olive]

DPS accessories boring

[thorny olive]

tru

[slender sky]

emo cat

[wintry depot]

hiselixirs are juiced tho

[slender sky]

his accs

hiselixirs

[thorny olive]

dis bard not playing around

[wintry depot]

still dont know why he has dr chest

[obtuse oyster]

cause dumb

[thorny olive]

idk

[queen grail]

No, I was making a meme on how you're lucky

You lucksack

[thorny olive]

you can ask @swift magnet the same

[wintry depot]

well paekes said cut that long ago

[slender sky]

when your dinner gets rdy mid-raid and you gotta afk for a bit

[swift magnet]

ya have both

[queen grail]

Bruh, I did over 300 mil dps in Drex on my Wildsoul with the normal gem's

[swift magnet]

and helped in prog

[thorny olive]

DR chest useless

[wintry depot]

he has heavy armor relic tho

[thorny olive]

I just bought this for prog

[obtuse oyster]

but no relic awakening

[slender sky]

unkillable

[thorny olive]

[obtuse oyster]

crazy

[swift magnet]

dropped 5 of these xD

[thorny olive]

and now I dont even use heavy armor on my bard in mordum g3 hm

[swift magnet]

maybe i switch back to maxhp

[thorny olive]

cuz bard is based

[queen grail]

@thorny olive @slender sky These sexy gem's and all single low's + Mid single Neck and pumping 300 mil dps in drex Guess bard's buffs were stronk.

[obtuse oyster]

bard to the moon

[thorny olive]

!

[thorny olive]

[nimble wolf]

Bard BROKEN

NERF

[thorny olive]

based*

she's fine

nerf paladin

buff artist

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-25407464

[obtuse oyster]

some could say still a bit under tuned

[thorny olive]

true

buff bard

[obtuse oyster]

where two omni ap SG

[thorny olive]

idk why they STILL insist on positional ap

[queen grail]

My T 2,7 bil almost

It does not normally do that

[obtuse oyster]

AND still design bosses that move constantly

[nimble wolf]

Which class

NERF

[obtuse oyster]

or are the size of a fucking mountain

[thorny olive]

yea

[wintry depot]

g1 act 3.............................................

[queen grail]

I did Mordum hardmode on my Bard first time today Was aight

[thorny olive]

ok

now my 1680s are getting honing chests

[obtuse oyster]

place SV, teleports. place SV, dash pattern, place SV, teleports

it's sooo cooked man

[thorny olive]

look, there's no skill with placing ap buffs, a monkey can do it, all it does is grief the party when the boss moves away from it, it's a garbage design with only the purpose of causing AP downtime

I don't get why SG hasn't just phased it out

just make all ap 24m ardius

[obtuse oyster]

look how long it took them to fix bard and buff supports

[thorny olive]

radius

[obtuse oyster]

legit 3-4 years to fix mana issues on a class

[thorny olive]

they still haven't fixed it

[wintry depot]

it took them 5 years to fix fucking bard double branding

it wasnt that hard

[obtuse oyster]

yeah, it's alot better with the reworked enlightenment so you're not as mp engraving jail

[thorny olive]

they still hasn't fixed it

[wintry depot]

they did

in kr

[thorny olive]

nyo

[wintry depot]

yes

[obtuse oyster]

can single brand with sontina

[thorny olive]

lies

[obtuse oyster]

or ss

[wintry depot]

yes

[thorny olive]

oh, what I been asking for since sonatina released

[obtuse oyster]

you and me both

made no sense bard was double brand jail while both pally and artist wasn't

[queen grail]

After a Drex Clear

https://tenor.com/view/award-love-me-really-love-me-the-mask-really-gif-5621422

[thorny olive]

they copy pasted drawing orchids, reduced brand time, incresed meter gen, changed the effects and called it a day

and it didn't do anything xD

[obtuse oyster]

yep

xD

well

it did change up the skill meta

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-yap-yapper-yapping-gif-5642199211123099306

[thorny olive]

this means so many players are angry, everytime I brought it up there was white knights coming in saying NO, BARD NEEDS DOUBLE BRAND TO BALANCE IT

[obtuse oyster]

shifted from the dumb ss + sv into sontina + harp

[thorny olive]

yea

[slender sky]

NO BARD NEEDS DOUBLE BRAND TO BALANCE IT

[thorny olive]

see

[queen grail]

13 Char's no gold Game? Are you ok?

[thorny olive]

at least im not alone

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cute-uwu-cat-teary-eyes-gif-17321485

[stark sky]

NO BARD NEEDS DOUBLE BRAND TO BALANCE IT

[thorny olive]

SEE

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-anine-couples-gif-20080984

[obtuse oyster]

Pally/Valk and Ayaya propaganda

[thorny olive]

first day I could do event, 18 souls, no gold..
and today, 12 souls, no gold.....

[slender sky]

youre never alone with the power of imagination

[thorny olive]

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/calm-down-a-bit-calm-down-relax-gif-3234894596200294187

[thorny olive]

does this mean I can run stigma and rhapsody

[obtuse oyster]

stig got nerfed

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/pica-pica-funny-cute-pokemon-pikachu-gif-15006966

[thorny olive]

should have just removed wom wom

[obtuse oyster]

LMAO

they buffed meter gen on buckshot, soundshock, and soundholic

[thorny olive]

why they nerf my stigma....

[obtuse oyster]

current stig with only needing a single brand would've been broken

[thorny olive]

I mean, I run stigma instead of rhapsody

so no difference there

[obtuse oyster]

you can still run it

[thorny olive]

they should remove wom wom

[obtuse oyster]

you'll just drop harp for util/counter/meter gen

[obtuse oyster]

wom wom is life

[slender sky]

wom wom

[thorny olive]

no, it removes my favorite shield :(

I don't run wom wom, stigma was my meter generator

so now idk

guess bard deadge

oh well

fempala it is

[obtuse oyster]

nah

bard to the moon

[slender sky]

fempala has assets

[thorny olive]

they ruined stigma.. I can't forgive

rather have double brand then

[obtuse oyster]

yeah but what we lost in stig, we got in buck shot

[thorny olive]

wtf

so much meter gen nerfs

bard literally ruined

[obtuse oyster]

nah

[thorny olive]

naw

[obtuse oyster]

@thorny olive

[thorny olive]

im sure it's fine

aaaaaa

what is this

[obtuse oyster]

the enlightenment change

[thorny olive]

so I have to press Z again for no reason?

Z and Z

...

[obtuse oyster]

no

[thorny olive]

but it says using strong courage... additionally major coda (z)

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/коля-собаки-dog-dogs-funny-gif-1283331452502239703

[obtuse oyster]

major code is from using z

[thorny olive]

ok so it's just written to make me confused :(

anyway

bardie!!!

[obtuse oyster]

tooo the mooon

[thorny olive]

[obtuse oyster]

I think artist is the only one who didn't win out hard like Bard and Pally did for teh changes

[thorny olive]

well, artist is already trash, can they make her worse

[obtuse oyster]

[thorny olive]

oh right they did make her worse

erm, the branding power increases??

[obtuse oyster]

yeah

4% at max rank

[thorny olive]

so

basically all the node does

[thorny olive]

cuz u don't really heal that often in homework

if at all

[slender sky]

they overcooked and burned the whole kitchen down

[obtuse oyster]

an odd choice that it's a 20% chance to get a orb that gives you 50% of the meter back

[thorny olive]

it's just a way to make ppl move away from the class

to move to female pala instead ig

and bard

[swift tree]

need people to jump on the new support

[obtuse oyster]

@thorny olive the new 4th node sounds decent

[swift tree]

and make players invest in dps paladin

[thorny olive]

I mean, moonfall shield isn't the most important, but changing it for no reason into something useless is just a "fuck you" from SG, nothing else

[teal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/lupa-wuwa-lupa-wuwa-wuwa-lupa-wuthering-gif-4223584133628947300

[thorny olive]

ugh, what is this

[obtuse oyster]

just gonna be more broshazas running around

[thorny olive]

do they have to complicate things

[obtuse oyster]

[slender sky]

oh im gonna jump all over her frfr

[thorny olive]

I swear to god if it spawns an orb I have to eat

I'll quit the class

[swift tree]

it does lol

[thorny olive]

yea ok

fk this

[wintry depot]

it spawns an orb that resets your skills

[slender sky]

EAT IT I DEMANDS IT

[wintry depot]

except t and awa

[obtuse oyster]

use a bubble, get a stack, at 8 stacks to spawn a orb that you gotta pick up, gives you 15% cdr refund, and buff duration of z or applies 6sec buff if there isn't one

[swift tree]

INCORRECT BUBBLE

FALSE SPHERE

[thorny olive]

but why the fuck do I need to eat it, just gonna make me troll myself

[swift tree]

DUBIOUS SUDS

[obtuse oyster]

SG moment

[thorny olive]

imma fkn spawn it in just guard

in brel

[obtuse oyster]

mean while, bard just get a benefit for doing something they already gonna do

[thorny olive]

and fail the guard

and get thrown off the platform

[obtuse oyster]

mana gain and more dmg on z for just using z

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/yeet-lion-king-simba-rafiki-throw-gif-16194362

[obtuse oyster]

peak

[thorny olive]

yea, they make bard better

they make paladin fkn broken (undeserved)

and they make artist garbage

[swift tree]

[queen grail]

@thorny olive I have 1 more char, Surely, 1 box

[thorny olive]

[obtuse oyster]

[queen grail]

Surely.

[swift tree]

not like the thousands of rice feeder paladins will actually make use of any paladin changes

[obtuse oyster]

now we'll have a thousand valk rice eater

[thorny olive]

ugh, this game

[meager hill]

I still propose we delete all sups from the game and give all of the relevant sup effects as a perma self-buff

[obtuse oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/hai-gif-10567033442484308038

[thorny olive]

well, let's hope it's not that bad

if the change annoys me idk

maybe game jover

[obtuse oyster]

reviving my 1600s bards

[swift tree]

rice eater accounts won't have the extra skill points, won't have the roster stats, card bonuses, extra brand power sources etc.

[obtuse oyster]

dropping my 1660s artist

[thorny olive]

gonna have to drop this

thanks SG

[swift tree]

In fairness, Paladin is the main character

[obtuse oyster]

*bard

[thorny olive]

paladin shouldn't even exist anymore

[swift tree]

all the MSQ promotional material uses paladin

[obtuse oyster]

fake news

[thorny olive]

no it uses zerk

[obtuse oyster]

[swift tree]

yes, zerks famously wearing the Valtan/Vykas Paladin outfit

[obtuse oyster]

I'm pretty sure Zerk is the poster child of Lost Ark

[thorny olive]

zerks and paladins look the same anyway

they sound the same too

[swift tree]

literal sexism

[lunar hedge]

we all pushing

[thorny olive]

no, they just copy pasted zerk when they made paladin

[thorny olive]

they ruined artist

[lunar hedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/980122072246263868/1369261145688641637/img_6.gif

[thorny olive]

it annoys me because the orbs are the worst shit about artist

and what did they do

MAKE SO U MIGHT GET GAUGE BACK FOR DROPPING AN ORB

[swift tree]

doubled down like SG always does?

[thorny olive]

AND THROW AN ORB IN UR FACE AT 8 STACKS OF MOONFALL

[obtuse oyster]

yep

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/ayaya-artist-lost-ark-ayaya-lost-ark-artist-gif-27527856

[thorny olive]

like

[slender sky]

kat so angy

[thorny olive]

yes

[swift tree]

like look, I get it, I have an artist in main 6 too

[obtuse oyster]

reasonable crashout

[slender sky]

little ball of angy

[obtuse oyster]

I was gonna leave my bard shot in the back alley if the support changes for her were shit

[swift tree]

might have a reason to actually redo her build now

[slender sky]

just dont play supp ez

[swift tree]

since the changes are this* month w/ Aegir

[thorny olive]

like i'm sure it's not as bad as I make it out, but c'mon, what kind of garbage is this xd

[meager hill]

the changes are lowkey meaningless to me, I'll be the same mediocre slightly above avg random artist as I've ever been

[queen grail]

Why?

[obtuse oyster]

based

[obtuse oyster]

meter is the only stastifcation I get from playing support

[thorny olive]

yea but also u'll get orbs shit in ur face every 8 moonfall that u have to EAT for cdr

and moonfall shield? gone

sry

[meager hill]

might even randomly go dps artist since it seems like her dps might be playable

[slender sky]

it will be fineeee doomkat

[thorny olive]

[meager hill]

the moonfall shield being gone is super shit, I agree

the orbs are kinda eh

[thorny olive]

I don't want orbs shit in my face

[meager hill]

I already eat my own because all of my dps are braindead monkeys that ignore them

if anything I want a rework on the way the orbs work

[slender sky]

eat a snickers youre turning into drama queen

[meager hill]

I'm convinced manual pickup heals don't work

[obtuse oyster]

you're telling me this isn't peak design

[meager hill]

they need to be reworked to be an effective healing tool

rn the vast majority of my healing is the small aoe heal when I place the orb

which feels dogshit, because what can I even do at that point when people ignore them?

and having people die with orbs in the field isn't any better, a dead dps is still dead

[slender sky]

more balls than a gae bar

[thorny olive]

I hate it

[meager hill]

if anything that just highlights the flawed design

well, the design is fine, the playerbase isn't

[swift tree]

Balloonra looking shiz

[obtuse oyster]

Kh

based

[thorny olive]

My Moonfall shield...

It blocked 9m DMG today in mordumb G3 HM

:(

[slender sky]

just let the artist apply them to you directly

[meager hill]

I see a lot of people treat the heal orbs like pots, so they seemingly try to save them for when they have the most value, which leads to death or pots because pots are infinitely more convenient

I still love my cute ayaya, but man healing feels like shit

[thorny olive]

Yea

I hate orbs

[swift tree]

Anyone have the meme of the "Please eat my eggs" ?

[slender sky]

uhm

[thorny olive]

heel

[swift tree]

could only find the KR version

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/bedge-pepe-sleep-gif-24023312

[thorny olive]

[meager hill]

but yeah, I'm gonna get valk to 1680 and probably replace SE as a gold earner, since NE feels pretty bad right now

[wintry depot]

9M??? ARE PEOPLE FUCKING EATING DMG FOR DINNER???

[thorny olive]

I was thinking of replacing either my SE or SH lol

[meager hill]

having a sup and flex sup/dps will be fine, surely

[wintry depot]

Oups caps

[swift tree]

https://upload3.inven.co.kr/upload/2025/04/30/sticker/i0269686727.gif

[thorny olive]

Well, they DPS in everything

So yeah

[meager hill]

I feel like my SH doesn't really do the dps its supposed to do

[wintry depot]

U know what

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-burrito-blanket-black-cat-gif-4611079785104049537

[meager hill]

and I can't tell if I'm just or there's something else

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chuni-sleep-gif-20108376

[wintry depot]

Sometimes i z on my bard and im wondering "wheres the shield"

[meager hill]

thinking of replacing it as main with either ws or aero, they're both close in dmg and still 1680

[swift tree]

Sometimes I z on my paladin and go "Well shit, there goes my meter"

[meager hill]

[wintry depot]

5 artists 1 bard fried my brain

[thorny olive]

I mean, it's pretty convenient, especially when ur not near people and can't really shield them properly

[wintry depot]

I know

[digital holly]

im going dps artist cuz of this frfr

[wintry depot]

I use it all the time

[slender sky]

strip se

[thorny olive]

Ya

[swift tree]

Going from rice-eater to bamboo-eater

[wintry depot]

9m just impress me

[thorny olive]

I was surprised too

[wintry depot]

I didnt check mine

But im in bed so

Need to sleep

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-puppy-sleeping-going-to-bed-dog-going-to-bed-gif-11495956736830452104

[thorny olive]

But yeah it was mostly on the GS and Sorc

[wintry depot]

Remind me to check tomorrow

[thorny olive]

Well was on me too x)

But ya

[wintry depot]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-cat-blanket-cat-bed-gif-12547517894121667289

[slender sky]

grandma 2mil gold needs rest

recovering from all the luck

gets tiring

[thorny olive]

[queen grail]

I got ONE BOX Ok, day "sorta saved"

[thorny olive]

[queen grail]

nvm

[thorny olive]

:(

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-5621418030291735983

[thorny olive]

Free gold

[queen grail]

I mean, If me and you can get this mad unlucky with big roster's.

[obtuse oyster]

hmmm

[queen grail]

It's gotta suck big dodo to be a small roster with this event watching people getting big ass money

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-the-office-yikes-this-is-the-worst-cringe-gif-21219465

[obtuse oyster]

god bless I'm not inp2

[thorny olive]

I have no idea how anyone with just a couple chars gonna get anything out of this

Other than free taps

[obtuse oyster]

you just hope and get lucky

[queen grail]

The small roster's with 3-4 char's that actually need the gold the most getting 50k from the total month, meanwhile you have big roster's getting 1,5 million.

[obtuse oyster]

I think I get 1-2 boxes on my gs account

[queen grail]

So fair and balanced.

[queen grail]

multi-accounter

[meager hill]

that's the neat part, you don't

[queen grail]

YuckyDucky.

[thorny olive]

Perfectly balanced and well designed..

@swift magnet has tons of chars and he can just brute force all 6 good boxes each day

Crazy

[queen grail]

It's so dent, they could have just made it 5-40 for variance or something and then "the first 3 souls give gold" the rest gives fused, the big roster's still gets HELLA fused and then everyone has a "baseline" chance at gold.

[obtuse oyster]

my gs account has more gold than my main

[thorny olive]

Biiig

[obtuse oyster]

meanwhile my bard account has like 227k

[queen grail]

I'm at 255k since start, and that's quite a lot, but It's nothing compared to the big boy's getting 6 box/day

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-what-it-is-hogwash-cdrp-gif-26805249

[thorny olive]

I'm at 60k good
3 boxes unopened

[queen grail]

If I end the event at 30k/day I'll be happy, but, that's not happening

[queen grail]

Go open them 🙏

[thorny olive]

But yeah I was on vacation so I only got those 60k first week

[queen grail]

Not playing for a day?

[thorny olive]

Am bed

[queen grail]

Account basically bricked.

What's break?

[thorny olive]

Yeah, crazy

[swift tree]

The fact that KR now has a 2000 day one

bruh

[thorny olive]

Oh no, I broke my streak after the 1k one since I went on vacation

[swift tree]

[thorny olive]

[swift tree]

It's just a profile vanity glow iirc

[thorny olive]

Bruh

Ofc they make it something fun

[swift tree]

all 3 of them are whale/touch-grass things tho

Esther Ella 2 / 2000 days streak / 'Collect everything'

[thorny olive]

..

[astral ermine]

you really have to add those before people meet the previous ones

[thorny olive]

Yeah.. I mean, I could have used gfn to still login if we had the 2k one

[meager hill]

do you really deserve it if you stopped after reaching 1k?

[astral ermine]

it would be like adding a 6th card awakening after all this time

[queen grail]

Does it carry over you think until we get it?

[thorny olive]

Should just reset everyone to day 0 instead

Even the playing field

[queen grail]

[meager hill]

[thorny olive]

Well, it's probably still tracking it

[meager hill]

afaik, yes

[queen grail]

Ahh,

I wonder what I'll be at, wonder when we get it.

[thorny olive]

Maybe it just puts it at 1k

[meager hill]

with the achievement menu rework

[thorny olive]

[queen grail]

WhenIsThat?

[meager hill]

when AGS gods feel like it

[queen grail]

Like? For real? TF is even unrested chaos?

WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN THIS?

[meager hill]

it's not in the roadmap at the very least, maybe they sneak it in july/august as an extra

[thorny olive]

We don't need it

[meager hill]

I'm surprised we get the character panel rework with the character power score thing

in july I mean

[queen grail]

[meager hill]

definitely expected to wait until valk for it

[obtuse oyster]

@queen grail this is my for fun gs account

[thorny olive]

It's rng, you got pretty unlucky if that's 1700 chaos

[obtuse oyster]

more gems than I get on a 1660

[queen grail]

I'd sure hope so, I'm on 1715, but still, what the hell is this bs

[queen grail]

Why do you have 2 accounts you crazy person

[queen grail]

It is.

[thorny olive]

:(

[obtuse oyster]

cause I made an ignite artist on main (hella regret) and I wanted to fuck around with a dps on ignite

started with a reaper on this account for ignite but wasn't vibing than remembered that I enjoyed GS but wasn't gonna push one on main.So, I did my 2nd account as an ignite gs

[thorny olive]

Rip aya

[queen grail]

Soon

[obtuse oyster]

should've done legit anything else

[swift tree]

last 2 did

[thorny olive]

Silver!!

[obtuse oyster]

you'll be ready for t4.5 conversion

[thorny olive]

Poor Artist, no love

[obtuse oyster]

200k of the new mats

[queen grail]

Did someone say Silver?

[obtuse oyster]

[thorny olive]

:o

[obtuse oyster]

she's a 1660 gold earner till I start moving up the bards

[thorny olive]

[queen grail]

Wait, huh? New mats?

[obtuse oyster]

when they do the next gear reset

I doubt we're gonna be in this set of t4 gear after kaz

[queen grail]

Ah, true,

Wait, fuck, but.

[thorny olive]

Well, I think artist still feels more fluid and fun to play, but she's just jack of all trades, not really a specialist in anything

[queen grail]

I was thinking about going 25 wep if I hit 24 on free tap and not 25 after event.

[lunar hedge]

at second glance, this looks so ugly

[queen grail]

and now we might get another tier after

[lunar hedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1035535134457335889/1382165662637621278/milltina.gif

[obtuse oyster]

it's the opposite for me, bard feels more fluid and fun. Artist has a lot of windup and long animations that feel a bit clunky to me

[queen grail]

She's so nice tho.

And Push immunity on AP buff.

Not like stupid bard.

If you fart on bard her AP gets interrupted

[obtuse oyster]

Yeah, but bard gets para with update

[queen grail]

para ye not push

[obtuse oyster]

and that's been one of my big annoyances

shit feels miserable getting canceled cause a boss does a basic attack

[queen grail]

Para good start, but push is so

[thorny olive]

Well, yeah, she has pretty long animations, and long cooldowns, but it kinda makes her more chill

[queen grail]

Artist with the 10% Hp shield each buff and spam buffs is so

[obtuse oyster]

Yeah, maybe I just enjoy the sweatiestness that comes with meter gain on bard

[thorny olive]

They are removing the shield ..

[queen grail]

TheFuckTheyAre? Why

[obtuse oyster]

@queen grail

[thorny olive]

Because SG is dent and wants to ruin the class I guess, they make paladin broken and bard QoL, but they shit on artist and throw her in a ditch

[lunar hedge]

they removed the free identity shield

im sadge

[swift tree]

Did anyone check to see if the shield is baked into the skill itself?

[obtuse oyster]

idk why they' could keep the old effect and add the new one

[queen grail]

I mean, 4% more brand is better.

[obtuse oyster]

@swift tree

[lone rampart]

new patch ?

[thorny olive]

Yeah that's the only purpose of that node now since the healing part is pretty useless unless ur in prog

[queen grail]

And 20% chance to get back half an orb after a heal is not that shitty but still wonky.

[lunar hedge]

when you Moonfall you and your pt gets the shield

[queen grail]

Nja, ye, I mean, sorta, they should have made it 10% and on buff.

[lunar hedge]

thats what Fading does

[obtuse oyster]

should've been 100%

[swift tree]

nvm

[obtuse oyster]

you really don't heal that much on support

[lunar hedge]

you really dont

unless someone is stupid greeding

[queen grail]

@neon cedar I've saved raids for you, for Saturday night or Sunday Bish.

[thorny olive]

In homework you basically don't heal, maybe mordumb since people are still dumb there

[queen grail]

I guess, but just make it 10% and half-orb's back on buff

[thorny olive]

10% chance?

[lunar hedge]

10%

[thorny olive]

10%

[lunar hedge]

still gambling on this shit

[queen grail]

On buff?

That you spam?

[thorny olive]

Ah ok

[queen grail]

Wouldn't be that bad.

[thorny olive]

Naw that's better than heal orb garbage

But give me back my 9m blocking Moonfall shield

[obtuse oyster]

meanwhile bard

https://tenor.com/view/hai-gif-10567033442484308038

[neon cedar]

Just do them whenever and if I'm free I'll join

[lunar hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/vodka-trago-two-shots-sandra-lee-drinks-gif-17311494

[queen grail]

How about you just get free and come over to EUC and run with me and Satho

https://tenor.com/view/high-five-marissa-rachel-shanna-lisa-marissa-rachel-channel-friendship-gif-17892902

[thorny olive]

Bard:

• Single brand
• Even more powerful identity buff
• Paralysis immunity

Artist

• Removed Moonfall shield
• Fuck you

[neon cedar]

Well don't get mad at me if we get to Tuesday and I'm busy

[obtuse oyster]

[thorny olive]

Most disappointing change is that they buffed paladin though

[lunar hedge]

paladin

[obtuse oyster]

cause least played support in kr

[thorny olive]

Well they could have just removed it

Replace everyone's paladins with a zerk

Same shit

[obtuse oyster]

[queen grail]

Ok, If I can't get ahold of you before that, I might go haha, are you doing a lot on Sunday?

[untold rock]

do a pack opening omg

[thorny olive]

Sadly there's too many paladins on our version

[dull obsidian]

[neon cedar]

I'm doing a lot in general. Replacing counters at home and painting

[obtuse oyster]

there's actually more valks than pally at this ilvl range

[dull obsidian]

is this above 1680?

[obtuse oyster]

wdf

[obtuse oyster]

1720-1800

[thorny olive]

Cute

[dull obsidian]

1720

[queen grail]

I'm hoarding silver, don't need it.

I'm so rich

[thorny olive]

You just want to see it all opened

[dull obsidian]

yeh that guy does like 500 chaos a day

if he isn't rich something is wrong

[obtuse oyster]

real

[queen grail]

tf 500

[obtuse oyster]

@dull obsidian Soulfist gets to live or are you taking her out back like old yeller?

[thorny olive]

I open mine and have 710m+ silver

[dull obsidian]

I'm on the wall

I'm enjoying EO atm

[untold rock]

YES

[dull obsidian]

I feel the potential

if I get good at it

[obtuse oyster]

real

and her books are pretty cheap?

[dull obsidian]

stab + precise dagger

[thorny olive]

Sounds just like T3 EO

[queen grail]

Rich

[thorny olive]

[dull obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/pomu-rainpuff-funky-dance-vrchat-pomu-gif-25995741

24 gold boxes

averaging 3 a day

[untold rock]

[thorny olive]

Whale

[obtuse oyster]

this like what 1week of raiding an bussing?

[dull obsidian]

LMAO

why did it jump

so much

[thorny olive]

Because they made relic books rarer

Somehow

[dull obsidian]

rmt is at all high atm apparently

probably because of 7500 BC

[teal thistle]

Cu zof Valk

They getting ready

[thorny olive]

Cursed

[dull obsidian]

and everything is responding to it

[obtuse oyster]

you got a 8 cd to trade for an 8 dmg?

[dull obsidian]

nope

[obtuse oyster]

fk

[thorny olive]

[obtuse oyster]

every time I chill in elnead it's just 8 dmg for 8 cd

where's all the cd rollers man

[thorny olive]

It's always like that

People always want cd gems

And I have same issue

Im making way more lvl 8 DMG than cd gems

[stark sky]

You don't need to bus to get SS maxrd

It's only 360k

[obtuse oyster]

when I don't want cd, I get

[stark sky]

Less than a week of income

[obtuse oyster]

but when I want cd, I don't get

why SG

[obtuse oyster]

talking about maxing both at the same time

[thorny olive]

Weekly income is like 800k

[obtuse oyster]

would be like 2 weeks of raiding for stab and pd

[stark sky]

No need to bus

It's just 1 week of regular income

[obtuse oyster]

yes

[thorny olive]

[obtuse oyster]

stab is 18k per book and pd is 11k per book

[dull obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/pomu-rainpuff-funky-dance-vrchat-pomu-gif-25995741

[stark sky]

Yea depending on ur setup u can be 100k+ a week in stronghold alone

I'm at around 150k/wk

[thorny olive]

What's the raid gold with 6x1700

No boxes

[stark sky]

Like 610k

Idk exactly

[lunar hedge]

peak

[thorny olive]

Nya but ya, so like 600k and then u most likely get other stuff for more gold too

[thorny olive]

Amazing

600k-800k weekly income for solid rosters

Crazy

[obtuse oyster]

ignoring the vertical and honing cost to get 1700

[stark sky]

If you count sold mats I'm at 1m a week

Lool

[thorny olive]

[thorny olive]

[stark sky]

The only gold sink I'm currently doing is my main's honibg

So I'm earning a lot of gold

rn

I finished 1/6/6 karma on my top 2 alts

[thorny olive]

Mocha rich

[stark sky]

And 1/6/1 on my top 3

[dull obsidian]

If I sold my stuff

I would be around 8m gold again

[stark sky]

Ishy

[dull obsidian]

?

[stark sky]

I bought 3m worth of gems like 2 weeks ago

[dull obsidian]

yeh good

[stark sky]

They're worth 4m now

[dull obsidian]

they shot up

[stark sky]

loool

25% increase

[thorny olive]

[dull obsidian]

I was on the wall about buying dmdg at 2.6

now they're 2.95m

oshit

[stark sky]

I bought 9s at 750

what are they now like 900 right

[dull obsidian]

880

ye

[stark sky]

I bought a couple at 720

Jesus

I got so lucky with that timing

[thorny olive]

Now give ur Aya some 9s

[stark sky]

No

[dull obsidian]

just by doing dailies

[thorny olive]

[dull obsidian]

I can fund fadeds account

with the bound gold

lol

[stark sky]

My artist gems are turning into glaive gems once we get lvl 6 solo shop gems

Lol

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-angry-cat-angry-gif-1827994887323155782

[dusty linden]

Oof

You guys smell

[thorny olive]

[obtuse oyster]

based

[dull obsidian]

?

I'll be running lvl 6 event gems on my chars too

[dusty linden]

I could smell this chat from another server

[dull obsidian]

good value

[dusty linden]

Calm down guys

[thorny olive]

And ishy will finally get level 6 on alts

[stark sky]

Are we getting these gems in 2 weeks

We are right

[lunar hedge]

My t4 alts gonna get boosted with lv6 solo gems

[dull obsidian]

whenever that aegir patch is out

lol

[stark sky]

nice

[queen grail]

KR giga vet's still doing Echidna why are KR so casual

[stark sky]

Ishy

[dull obsidian]

aegir will give

solo shop coins

[stark sky]

My 1680 did 258m today

[dull obsidian]

can buy oreha on all 6 again

in what

[stark sky]

Mordum g3

[thorny olive]

[queen grail]

They got Adra Relic in Auction

I can't even

[thorny olive]

[thorny olive]

Valk

[queen grail]

What a casual @thorny olive

[thorny olive]

Valk best dps

[obtuse oyster]

real and true

[vagrant cradle]

I hope I like how she feels to play

[stark sky]

I kind of want to replace artist

but it's so expensive

[vagrant cradle]

if not she'll just stay at 1640/1660

[dusty linden]

Who needs valk when deathblade exists

[thorny olive]

They ruin her with sup rework

[obtuse oyster]

someone described it as baby deathblade

[stark sky]

Ya

Artist already felt like the worst support of the 3

[dusty linden]

I play mommy deathblade

Not baby

[thorny olive]

Yeeep

[stark sky]

Rework didn't rly do much for her

[vagrant cradle]

waiting for the real content of dragon knight to come out

[obtuse oyster]

Bard tooooo the moooon

[dull obsidian]

I still think

[dusty linden]

#bardnation

[dull obsidian]

artist was the best support on average before the sup patch

[queen grail]

Artist is the best

[dull obsidian]

but now

[queen grail]

Artist > Valkyrie > Bard > That last one.

[dull obsidian]

its bard > pally > high meter artist > female pally > no womwom bard

[stark sky]

Think it was the worst of the 3

[dull obsidian]

I don't think it was

Bard had stronger buffs but traded all sorts defensive capabilities for it

Pally had the better ap/brand set up but traded identity

[stark sky]

Nah

[thorny olive]

No

[dull obsidian]

artist had everything

[stark sky]

Bard players just said they traded their defense for it

Realistically they didn't have to

Lool

[obtuse oyster]

kap

[thorny olive]

Bard has always had better defense than artist tbh

[dull obsidian]

we have no ondemand shield like hopper/sprinke or holy protection

wom shield is giga troll

[obtuse oyster]

only thing you gave up was util

[stark sky]

Wom shield is like 70% of the meter of womwom

[obtuse oyster]

either for double brand or for more meter gen

[stark sky]

and permanent 50% dr

[thorny olive]

I always run wom and stigma

[dull obsidian]

never will run wom shield in my life

[thorny olive]

But now they want to ruin stigma sadly

[queen grail]

@thorny olive Rested 1640

Smh

[thorny olive]

Kinda feels like they are forcing bards to run wom wom now and reduce defense more

[obtuse oyster]

nah, you're just a giga goblin

[dull obsidian]

this atm I think is my best bard mordum parse

nah

wom shield is bad real

[stark sky]

The thing is artist was good at two things and they're not really that crazy

Mana and chip dmg

[thorny olive]

Ya

[dull obsidian]

I mean artist could technically have the highest identity ap and brand all together

[stark sky]

never ap

[dull obsidian]

now bard is just op

[stark sky]

brand identity yes

[dull obsidian]

4 push immunes

3 para

what is that

sg

[thorny olive]

Well yes, but artist identity is weak, ap has long af cooldown

[dull obsidian]

we went from the weakest support on average players to the strongest support on all levels

[stark sky]

Ya idk

[obtuse oyster]

Bard main rise up

[stark sky]

Idk how reducing support reliance turned into global support buffs

lol

[obtuse oyster]

cause it's SG

they genuninely don't know how to do QoL or balance

[stark sky]

Whatever

Bard has no weakness anymore

haha

[obtuse oyster]

they have 1 weakness

the pilot

[vagrant cradle]

[stark sky]

Why even play the other class

[obtuse oyster]

[dull obsidian]

[thorny olive]

Bard literally got the QoL they held off for so long

[dull obsidian]

I mean

its less gauge

but stronger buff

[obtuse oyster]

plus a omega buff

[obtuse oyster]

it's not even that much less

[dull obsidian]

no more mana issues

[thorny olive]

Meanwhile they threw artist in the garbage

[dull obsidian]

its less than the current set up

but that really doesn't matter

[obtuse oyster]

you're dropping harp and gaining another meter gen skill

[dull obsidian]

just means you need to link up with dps better

instead of mindlessly bubbling

[dull obsidian]

sonatina no longer gives gauge

prelude removed

[obtuse oyster]

buckshot has the same meter gen as prenerfed sontina

[dull obsidian]

stigma gutted

they don't want you running that

just go soundholic

[obtuse oyster]

even sv is comparable to old sontina

[thorny olive]

Yeah idk, now they nerf stigma I guess I'll have to run wom wom and reduce my defense

[obtuse oyster]

like you can't even say they "nerfed" meter gen

[dull obsidian]

it mathematically less

[obtuse oyster]

when they giga buff the "counter" skill and makes sv an option

[dull obsidian]

wait sonatina meter isn't even that bad

who told me it gives 0 meter

[obtuse oyster]

you're math ain't mathing

[dull obsidian]

I am parroting my 1730 bard mains..

[obtuse oyster]

om

[dull obsidian]

they tell me its less

its less

[thorny olive]

Crazy, their choice to nerf stigma cuz u can run single brand results in people reducing defense instead because they can't run WoM shield anymore

[dull obsidian]

@obtuse oyster we still have the same problem of counter tbh

we are spamming that shit off cd

you know it

its a better counter when its up

[obtuse oyster]

it's okay now we level dr skill to 14

[thorny olive]

Should of just removed wom wom

[stark sky]

it's the slayer problem

[dull obsidian]

but is it gonna be up?

[obtuse oyster]

yeah that was honestly questionable

[stark sky]

slayer has 2 counters

[obtuse oyster]

why even open up room for a counter skil

[stark sky]

But they don't counter often

[obtuse oyster]

if you're gonna make it on par for meter gain with sontina

[stark sky]

Because they use them off cd anyway

[dull obsidian]

striker literally cannot counter

[stark sky]

lol

[dull obsidian]

its so funny

perma on the ass

perma on cd

or you literally cannot rotate

its my self buff too

dash

gauge gen

[stark sky]

Ur a pig

striker is such a disgusting class

[thorny olive]

What's great is classes who use counter for synergy too so they never have it up

SG are so good at designing

[obtuse oyster]

yep

[dull obsidian]

pred can counter

punisher cannot

[stark sky]

You can import 5 lvl 10 gems from other classes bcuz half your skills don't actually matter

[dull obsidian]

its so funny

[stark sky]

it's so fking gross

[obtuse oyster]

like making all your stagger skills also your main dmg skills that have high cds

[dull obsidian]

ye

LOL

[stark sky]

Striker also has one of the highest dmg right now

[obtuse oyster]

10/10 SG

[thorny olive]

Yeah I do counter with my other counter, not synergy on pred