why shoudn't the people buying busses help themselves, oh wait
#lost-ark-discussions
tulip charm
dusty linden
and here we go again, blaming the devs for you choosing to take the trash route
queen grail
So I was making a raid to help @charred void get a clear, and this alt-char high roster good geared 1640'ish Artist joins, and then leaves, and that's fine, but he left to make his own grp, I guess since I accepted a lot of 1660's and whatnot, we had no giga juicer's some 1680's and mostly 1660 or less.
This guy makes his own grp.
We go in, clear, deathless.
We come out and he's still in the LFG channel at like 7/16 people
dusty linden
its a choice you made
queen grail
He did eventually fill, but still
tulip charm
they never will help themselves, thats why there is a market for bussers
dusty linden
no one made you squeeze gold from ppl
you chose to do it
and so the game suffered
queen grail
And his grp had like 3 1715++ people in them and still didn't fill in the time we were inside
My guess Is he was really picky.
dusty linden
cause when ur spending every sent fro ma raid, on the raid, and then theres systems after
obtuse oyster
why shoudn't the people buying busses help themselves, oh wait
The dev designed a game where you have x amount of hw raids to get through in the week which just incentivize people to maximize not spending hours on 1 raid cause of jails or bad players
tulip charm
no one made you squeeze gold from ppl
i think your being way too idealistic
tulip charm
i am not blaming the bussers for the other problems with the game, but i am blaming them for putting a thunderpig title on a rando pug that wandered into my lobby, fuck you empires
dusty linden
split grove
i dont expect you to rob the homeless either tbh
obtuse oyster
Mind you, some of these people won't even accept teaching
charred void
i dont expect you to rob the homeless either tbh
? just help the old lady over the street, take her purse, pull out 5 dollars from it, give her and take the rest with you
obtuse oyster
People will impostor a raid, not say shit when they are messing up till they get kicked
dusty linden
lets look at the ammoutn of new players who were forced to buy busses or be gatekept, then quit after cause they had 0 gold for a few weeks
i need these numbers
obtuse oyster
and then do it all over again
obtuse oyster
<:OMEGALUL:1063826432524029982> So I was making a raid to help <@153985058477178...
yeah people are weird with that
charred void
yeah people are weird with that
guy started the raid exactly 20 minutes after we were out already
tulip charm
rip "cinema pw 556" "movie adventure #6 "
dusty linden
yes cause al lthose ppl already quit cause of it and then after it was too late t5hey changed it up
obtuse oyster
guy started the raid exactly 20 minutes after we were out already
deserved, especially when the raid is a snooze fest with decent 1660+
obtuse oyster
now we at a point they dont even care about new ppl anymore
that's a stretch
dusty linden
glad u got your couple hundreds of k
queen grail
yeah people are weird with that
I think people underestimate the insane power spike we got with the last node and how strong people are now
dusty linden
that's a stretch
then def put a hard pause on it
obtuse oyster
done the ignite server which was a western exclusive btw
tulip charm
I think people underestimate the insane power spike we got with the last node an...
i didn't understimate, behemoth lopangs are roided up
dusty linden
maybe to make it better (i hope)
dusty linden
done the ignite server which was a western exclusive btw
im talkign about current in this case
fresh flint
I’m so confused by this conversation. Because nobody’s literally forcing people to buy a bus lmao 🤣 like they willingly are lazy cunts that don’t want to put the work in
charred void
i didn't understimate, behemoth lopangs are roided up
dusty linden
all ignite new players have quit already
queen grail
@charred void I've done 3 of the new cube, where relic book?
obtuse oyster
no they haven't
dusty linden
maybe like 5 ar around
tulip charm
now we at a point they dont even care about new ppl anymore
just fyi, scalp have helped out new players plenty of times, for free like you said
charred void
<@153985058477178881> I've done 3 of the new cube, where relic book?
i've done 11 hours, where sanity
obtuse oyster
Not even clown
obtuse oyster
fucking argos was killing the pop and the 1370 wall
charred void
glad idiots couldnt buy a clown bus
fresh flint
Not even clown
So true queen I quit during valtan and then again when vykas dropped LMAOO
obtuse oyster
Half the community didn't even make it out of t2
charred void
clown release filtered out all the bad valtan/vykas people who got dragged to the finishing line because they were clearable with less than 8
fresh flint
T1 and t2 was fucking disgusting. I hated every minute of it.
charred void
clown required 4 alive
dusty linden
bro blame the devs all you want, i dont care. you literally said "I NEED GOLD" then proceeded to post a bus for 85% of tradeable gold in a raid like a hour later
tulip charm
Half the community didn't even make it out of t2
it is what it is, pretty sure half the players at the time coudn't even pass the pirate miniboss at alarek, they didn't know what a destruction check was
queen grail
glad idiots couldnt buy a clown bus
I bussed a few clowns, and with bus I mean pepega's died and you had to turn on 5000 IQ and kill the boss in last phase with checker explosions
dusty linden
whining while contributing to the inability to grow the game is wild to me. just keep bussing and shutup
queen grail
Both things can be true, bussers have been / is an issue and so is the game design 
charred void
I bussed a few clowns, and with bus I mean pepega's died and you had to turn on ...
obtuse oyster
T1 and t2 was fucking disgusting. I hated every minute of it.
I hated that I found about excavating maps being op in t2 after I was on my way to 1370
queen grail
Ah, the good old days' 
dusty linden
"I NeEd GoLD" ok buddy
queen grail
No, you could just do the raid normally and not bus 
obtuse oyster
clock out your paid 9 to 5, to go do your unpaid 9 to 5 charity 
tulip charm
not enjoying helping new ppl out is a shitty excuse
you wanna help new players? go join a normal aegir lobby
lmk how that goes
viscid sand
Indeed, but telling a new player that it's alright to lobby sim for 2 hours just to play the game is also wild
dusty linden
lmk how that goes
i have 3 1 peice chars i do it on every week
queen grail
That being said @dusty linden No one is owed anyone helping them, helping is something one does because one wants not because other's expect it 
dusty linden
usually i pull cruel master counter and master anni
but that doesnt make takign every cent ok, maybe just be more leanient instead of squeezing every cent you can
fresh flint
I hated that I found about excavating maps being op in t2 after I was on my way ...
OKAY BUT SAME I WAS SO CLUELESS WOTH MY EXPERT ENGRAVING SORC OMGGG
obtuse oyster
you wanna help new players? go join a normal aegir lobby
I call it jailegir for a reason now
dusty linden
now yo ucant buy bonus loot or your aegir peice
queen grail
Relic where?
fresh flint
<:Looking:1222262916665839616> Relic where?
In my butt
obtuse oyster
this shit is just depressing man, people don't care to learn how to play the game. They just hope they get carried in a raid
obtuse oyster
That's a myth.
that's cap
dusty linden
if you are getting consistantly jailed on aegir
queen grail
In my butt
dusty linden
its not the teams problem
queen grail
that's cap
It's not cap I don't remember last time I was jailed in Aegir.
dusty linden
its the freest raid ever made
viscid sand
this shit is just depressing man, people don't care to learn how to play the gam...
The one who care can more or less enter the non-sus lobbies 
dusty linden
no one is askign you teach, yo ucould always just bus like are doing
fresh flint
this shit is just depressing man, people don't care to learn how to play the gam...
While doing 20m dps in a fucking aegir. I’m not the best player by any standard. But a minimum of 50m isn’t hard regardless of the class lmao
queen grail
Never said you have to help brand new player's, I'm retired and I don't even want to do that.
tulip charm
if you are getting consistantly jailed on aegir
i don't think you get the point...
its literally the easiest raid in the normal variant
majority of those players in there don't want to learn, they just wanna afk for free gold on their 5th alt roster
lmk how that goes when you try to help those people
dusty linden
i don't think you get the point...
its literally the easiest raid in the normal ...
i join 0-1 piece lobbies every week with multi low lvl roster ppl
and clear first pull
i dont know
what point ur making
obtuse oyster
While doing 20m dps in a fucking aegir. I’m not the best player by any standard....
you would think 40 mil bare minimum would be feasbile on anything
dusty linden
i have 1 piece and lvl 6 gems on my aero and souleater
cinder stag
I swear if i dont get trusted in the next few days... Imma swear 😠
queen grail
@obtuse oyster I almost got to legend rank in Hearthstone btw 
and then when I'm at Rank 4 Diamond fucking seasons ends I didn't even know.
fresh flint
you would think 40 mil bare minimum would be feasbile on anything
That’s just embarrassing
tulip charm
i join 0-1 piece lobbies every week with multi low lvl roster ppl
if your honestly doing this, then i only got 1 thing to say
i commend your effort for trying to help people that don't wanna be helped, but sooner or later your gonna hit a burnout point
viscid sand
i have 1 piece and lvl 6 gems on my aero and souleater
Ah, but you see, you're not a floor eater like some of these pugs 
obtuse oyster
<@227613957928648714> <:Looking:1222262916665839616> I almost got to legend rank...
get back on the grind
queen grail
you would think 40 mil bare minimum would be feasbile on anything
My guy, back in Akkan days I had a zerker that was ULTRA GEARED, like ULTRA and he was doing Zdps, like legit so little he got kicked.
He had fucking Lv.10 gem's when Lv.10 gem's was Whales only.
Some people just, don't know how to clickity clackity buttons.
queen grail
get back on the grind
I've never been that high rank tho, never really tried.
So was fun to climb so high 
viscid sand
At the end of the day, why bother trying to help those who clearly aren't helping themselves? I'm alright with people doing meh, but some people literally just autopilot into oblivion just to get gold
charred void
I call it jailegir for a reason now
first time i see a support dmg bar this long
fresh flint
is this the monthly bussing is evil talk
Yes unfortunately
dusty linden
oh no they got behe title for free
stark sky
Yes unfortunately
queen grail
is this the monthly bussing is evil talk
It's either that or the geopolitical state of the world and no one wants that
queen grail
But @sand marsh just don't bus don't teach and don't bus, just be a regular andy raider.
dusty linden
who is asking for fre carries in mordumb?
tulip charm
i miss those days, where bussers undercut the shit out of each other in lobby titles
dusty linden
wtf
fresh flint
<:KEKW:834726120606924850>
As if people are forcing others to take a bus. I know me personally I took busses to avoid having to learn a new raid until I was confident I wouldn’t be a total fuck up.
dusty linden
dense logic
tulip charm
and all the shiters joined the cheapest lobby, then get jailed
queen grail
As if people are forcing others to take a bus. I know me personally I took busse...
And look at you now, big dick swinging at Mordum 
GO KICK HIS 🍑
fresh flint
And look at you now, big dick swinging at Mordum <:2bgasm:856666350244331530> GO...
Next wave
queen grail
fresh flint
Surely
dusty linden
comparing new raids, to squeezing new players out of every penny they could use to actually progress
sure
i love it
tulip charm
comparing new raids, to squeezing new players out of every penny they could use ...
let me ask you this, if a player dosn't wanna be squeezed, what do you think they would do?
fresh flint
Hell yea, <:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
I really want to learn mordumdum but worse case scenario I go back to busses and ask the carries to let me stay alive. That’s how I learned a lot of raids.
dusty linden
they spent 5 horus in pf got gatekept 30 times and gave up
dusty linden
let me ask you this, if a player dosn't wanna be squeezed, what do you think the...
progress
uness teh squeeze is a hug
fresh flint
I learn slow as fuck. Proggijg is pain
queen grail
I really want to learn mordumdum but worse case scenario I go back to busses and...
Or, @sand marsh why the hell aren't you bringing this cutie patotie with you into a Mordum hard? You have so many of them he's not a bad player, just do it, you bish.
queen grail
Toxic @sand marsh Not helping Chris.
dusty linden
BRO YOU ARE DEFINING THE PROBLEM
tulip charm
progress
can you elaborate on this? how to progress, describe this for me in detail, please
fresh flint
queen grail
dusty linden
why would you apply for a raid if you dont know it or atleast studied it?
obtuse oyster
prog raid groups exist for a reason
wintry depot
you would be surprised how mnay people does that
queen grail
https://tenor.com/view/theres-a-sharp-pain-right-here-pointing-to-chest-heart-at...
Fake friends like @sand marsh makes the hearth hurt 🫶 🩸
wintry depot
you can just ask
as if people dont lie
dusty linden
whos asking you to bus 10 raid clears for the same ppl
wintry depot
I mean even the mod in this channel agented into the last raid <:OMEGALUL:106382...
i didnt
i reached x0
tf are you saying
viscid sand
prog raid groups exist for a reason
they rarely do for the old raids 
queen grail
Lying too me now?
dusty linden
whos asking you to get someone a title for free?
queen grail
You said you joined Reclear pre-Reclear
dusty linden
you are saying 'boy i got off work for 8 hours, better look for behe 1640s who cant get into other groups and take every penny so they cant use any of the mats they get"
wintry depot
anyway
dusty linden
thats mmy whole thing
viscid sand
every raid is a bus, it's a matter of whether someone is paying or not
obtuse oyster
they rarely do for the old raids <:nicebusiness:1079127990664974346>
most of them are just skip fest unless the damage is low
viscid sand
charred void
most of them are just skip fest unless the damage is low
yellow meteor in aegir g1
mhh whats this 
viscid sand
most of them are just skip fest unless the damage is low
even the learning parties i see is more like "1-2 reclear teaching 1" and that is not very common either
queen grail
i forgot to give pill to my cat gg
sick cat
dusty linden
you dont need to be 1680 to d echidna, you dont need to be 1660 to do behe
obtuse oyster
even the learning parties i see is more like "1-2 reclear teaching 1" and that i...
those are funny to me because how is the 1 learning anything in a reclear where they are just getting 7 man bussed through it
dusty linden
HUGE TAKE
brave gazelle
queen grail
Hi 
dusty linden
viscid sand
those are funny to me because how is the 1 learning anything in a reclear where ...
i mean, that's precisely the thing, right? how willing are people to slog thru a raid for randoms for them to "learn the gate"? for the most part, the average playerbase care more about executing the raid mechanics rather than trying to parse thru the boss's patterns
obtuse oyster
@viscid sand the game needs better ingame system of setting up groups (message board style with signups and timeslots) so people aren't just playing lobby sim hoping someone applies to their learning party depending on the raid, or have to take it 3rd party (learning discords) to find people
wintry depot
<@212378747293270026> <:angy:1174744558983192586>
Ye was nm, not hm
dusty linden
i think you are looking at pretty extreme examples, im simply saying, you come in here, flexing gold, drops ect... whinign about "i NeEd GoLd" then proceed to be part of the problem, actually excuse me, a head mod of the problem as to why literally maybe 2% of new ppl over the past year have stuck around
wintry depot
Not like g3 nm is hard
viscid sand
<@158571364062593024> the game needs better ingame system of setting up groups (...
bold, when new players also do not want to play with new players most of the time
dusty linden
im literally complaining about you
queen grail
Ye was nm, not hm
I never said HM I just said "last raid" 
wintry depot
Just need people to not die at 425 and its a clear
obtuse oyster
bold, when new players also do not want to play with new players most of the tim...
TRUE
queen grail
Gaslighting me
neon cedar
Wts Velganos bus 500g
stark sky
Not like g3 nm is hard
its hard with the vairgrys artist
wintry depot
<:SAD:701055548103196682> sick cat
Shes not sick, she has anxiety
stark sky
why u no buf
charred void
why dont u buf team?
stark sky
why dont u buf team?
dusty linden
did i propuse a solution to you bussing for free? idc what you do, big dog, i looked up to you when i was new, then i found out its ppl like who who are slowing down my ability to progress
i got into the game via your guides
viscid sand
i mean, other than free carry in the title, this is already happening in mordum all these floor lickers
stark sky
we're not seriously saying this bussing for free bs are we now
dusty linden
you sorely dissapoint
stark sky
you're either for bussing or against it
no one is supporting bussing for free
🤣
what the fk
queen grail
Are you trying exposure therapy on her or something? @wintry depot 
The Cat 
obtuse oyster
you're either for bussing or against it
it's only wrong if gold is involved 
wintry depot
Are you trying exposure therapy on her or something? <:Looking:12222629166658396...
Na
She just takes pills to calm her down, like meeeee
queen grail
She just takes pills to calm her down, like meeeee
Like owner like pet 
wintry depot
Like owner like pet <a:Noted:986111173034410004>
Exactly
wintry depot
Shes chilling in my mom room
viscid sand
no one is supporting bussing for free
depends what angle you're going for. like, if i'm onboarding a friend, then it's basically a bus 'cause i dont realistically think they'd be dps demons on their first few tries. but compounding it with other randoms, the learning pace of the group is too erratic to accommodate to
wintry depot
Opressor doesnt mean shit since aegir release
dusty linden
and if you are lookign at aegir as an example, you can do aegir even witghout knowing anything
queen grail
But @sand marsh Hi, what about my comment? You could just, not bus at all and just be a regular raider no?
stark sky
depends what angle you're going for. like, if i'm onboarding a friend, then it's...
bussing strangers for free
🤣
dusty linden
no one is saying to bus current raids for free, my guy what are these extreme examples
charred void
it's only wrong if gold is involved <:TemaClueless:1308585495751561257>
once bought a bus for brel g6 on my artist, the bussing artist died so much, i helped bussing with the dps guy, cleared, they wanted to give me gold back, i refused 
viscid sand
most of the people i "bus" are just not pulling their weight, and that's fine
i dont expect them to be great at the game, so long as they dont fk up my clear
dusty linden
most ppl cant even do mordumb still
wintry depot
drugs for cats
My cat's anxiety gets even worse with catnip xD
dusty linden
what even
stark sky
no they're saying to literally bus for free as in they're afk while you play
dusty linden
just stop
viscid sand
nah, if they're afk, they can go to the bin
stark sky
exactly
obtuse oyster
depends what angle you're going for. like, if i'm onboarding a friend, then it's...
- the comunication gap. easier to explain something to friends and know they are actually listening compared to hoping the random is actually reading and understanding what you are typing
queen grail
where relic book? @obtuse oyster
viscid sand
but how do you distinguish between a new player trying to learn and just outright dying, to a guy who just wants to afk
fresh flint
+ the comunication gap. easier to explain something to friends and know they are...
the viagrys effect , jesus
viscid sand
+ the comunication gap. easier to explain something to friends and know they are...
ye definitely
dusty linden
my entire thing is you blame your 8 hour day, on the choice you make to squeeze every penny out of new ppl, no is forcing you to look at "ok this raids drops 15k in tradable gold, bus is 14k"
stark sky
but how do you distinguish between a new player trying to learn and just outrigh...
well thats the conversation
dusty linden
you could just be cheaper
it doesnt have to bee everythign vs free
like holy fuck
stark sky
one side is saying there should be free busses
dusty linden
look at the new players who have stuck aroudn the last year
stark sky
news flash
fresh flint
viscid sand
well thats the conversation
i mean, @dusty linden was definitely leaning towards playing with less experienced players rather than just these 10 alt roster afk andies
stark sky
it doesnt matter
dusty linden
i mean, <@1372062862310244402> was definitely leaning towards playing with less ...
im on the side of new players, no alt roster andys
fuck those guys
viscid sand
just so happens that both might just make your run more difficult anyway
stark sky
who do you think abuses new player systems the most
obtuse oyster
@stark sky @sand marsh @viscid sand should this gunlancer been allowed to get a aegir clear
dusty linden
cause its either buy a bus for everythign theyve earnedfor the week
fresh flint
dont you have like 6 rosters
charred void
who do you think abuses new player systems the most
new players
dusty linden
or do nothing
obtuse oyster
he basically got bussed for free and did z
dusty linden
dont you have like 6 rosters
i have 2 rosters,and my 2nd roster has 1 1674
thats literally it
fresh flint
who said they had 6
dusty linden
me
fresh flint
someone did , i forgot
dusty linden
but i was drunk and ass lying
viscid sand
<@982145364930986014> <@429948941581418496> <@158571364062593024> should this gu...
yes, but that is also disgusting to look at
fresh flint
oh
viscid sand
get that filth out of my sight
obtuse oyster
yes, but that is also disgusting to look at
viscid sand
charred void
engravings look colorful
dusty linden
we all do
viscid sand
rainbow stats meets rainbow engravings. it's beautiful
queen grail
<@982145364930986014> <@429948941581418496> <@158571364062593024> should this gu...
Seems fine
obtuse oyster
Seems fine <:hm:1090966021986340944>
are you sure about that chief
fresh flint
are you sure about that chief
future artist, waow
queen grail
are you sure about that chief
stark sky
these people just going in circles
queen grail
It's a Gunlancer, they don't do damage anyway, just stagger for me and debuff the boss
dusty linden
stop flexing while whining at the same time
viscid sand
blaming you own greed about wanting more, on the game is wild
as much as i am not in line with his take on playing with these new players, this is just the direct cause of the system(s) of the game right now lol.
it is simply human behaviour
obtuse oyster
as much as i am not in line with his take on playing with these new players, thi...
you either get lucky, grind away,swipe, bus, or use illegal means
dusty linden
liek 2 days ago
obtuse oyster
such is lost ark
dusty linden
then proceeded to post 3 bus runs
viscid sand
i dont expect someone who has limited time to devote their time to new players
dusty linden
in your discord
stark sky
who
viscid sand
how bout you tell Henry to play with new players instead of bussing/playing with his static
stark sky
who reminds u of cute doll
fresh flint
Cuteshart
neon cedar
This is still going, huh
stark sky
i didnt know she had opinions
stark sky
i thought she just stared at the camera
viscid sand
you either get lucky, grind away,swipe, bus, or use illegal means
when the grind meets the 100% artisan wall 
fresh flint
my eyes arent shadowed that greeb
Nah I don't speak on looks, xD just opinions
obtuse oyster
This is still going, huh
Yeah, think it time to ring the bell and kill the convo. It's just going in circles
dusty linden
Nah I don't speak on looks, xD just opinions
she doesnt even play anymore? what are her opinions
fresh flint
she doesnt even play anymore? what are her opinions
she does
dusty linden
she cant even counter mirrors in ivory idk wut she has to say
viscid sand
it's alright, @sand marsh just do what you're doing to keep yourself sane in the game, @dusty linden just keep farming up that good karma for your next tap
obtuse oyster
@sand marsh @dusty linden Okay, lets move on. It not going anywhere
neon cedar
Yeah, think it time to ring the bell and kill the convo. It's just going in circ...
Its been 50 minutes. Tho it was a real conversation to start at least
dusty linden
obtuse oyster
Its been 50 minutes. Tho it was a real conversation to start at least
and it didn't devolve into mud slinging
dusty linden
i bought the echidna wallpaper
charred void
and it didn't devolve into mud slinging
dusty linden
am i no longer f2p
viscid sand
and it didn't devolve into mud slinging
what the, but mud slinging is the fun part
stark sky
no im all 9s except 2 and 1 10
stark sky
so 8 9s and 1 10
obtuse oyster
It's fine. You guys are just gonna go in circle and like most of the chat for next hour is just gonna be a back and forth between you two when EU goes to bed
dusty linden
and it didn't devolve into mud slinging
at some point it was about to go downhill. ive thought for the past few responses "i wish it would just end here"
its better its over
ggs
🤝
stark sky
im waiting on books
books are gonna cost me 10m
i have 2 done
and like 8 books read
from the others
wait
6
2 rc and 4 grudge
so i need 16 grudge and 18 rc
and 20 kbw
dusty linden
ez 10m gold
stark sky
It's fine
dusty linden
should've bussed apes for 3 years
STOP
stark sky
I calculated it already
I reach all my goals at current gold earning rates
By kazeros release
From raids alone yeah
I make 140k/week in sh
tulip charm
progress
there, i went and did a normal aegir run for some free loot on my former lopang summoner, you think players like this deserve to be "helped" ?
dusty linden
https://tenor.com/view/hollywood-hulk-hogan-nwo-spit-spit-oncam-spit-saliva-gif-18247494694800270822
stark sky
And if I sell mats I get like an extra 10-20k a week
tulip charm
fyi this was a actually a good group btw for normal aegir, 90% of them i would have saw meteor mechs in g1 and i would have left
stark sky
Thats not much but it adds up
dusty linden
there, i went and did a normal aegir run for some free loot on my former lopang ...
we are ending the convo
plz dont ping me about it anymore
charred void
there, i went and did a normal aegir run for some free loot on my former lopang ...
? he has phantom lord
tulip charm
we are ending the convo
oh, i missed the ending, since i was raiding
stark sky
So I estimate a gold earning of 750k a week
viscid sand
mmm money
stark sky
With any lucky drops it goes up a lot
stark sky
This event avg gold for my roster is 10k a day
swift tree
Wait you’re getting (g)old?
dusty linden
new raid busses are a totally different story
stark sky
A 12 char roster avgs like 12k a day
dusty linden
i join carries for loot every week in ffxiv
stark sky
From event
dusty linden
and make hella bank
dusty linden
new raids are pure money makers if you are skilled/juiced
dusty linden
as they should be
viscid sand
wheres my money, ags you skipped out on my lucky gold mokoko, now you depriving my boxes from guardians. how can this be allowed?
stark sky
Also Saturn probably will clear Kaz race but the community will be very upset if he gets let through their system
viscid sand
i just solo sonavel if i feel like it
stark sky
So
viscid sand
takes like 4-5mins on my 1580
stark sky
He might not be able to get the first title
teal thistle
His job is to sell gold
queen grail
@obtuse oyster Took an IQ test and I was ahead of the curve, but then I remember, I play Lost Ark so clearly that test was fake
teal thistle
v:
tulip charm
Also Saturn probably will clear Kaz race but the community will be very upset if...
i woudn't be upset if his team clears day 1, id only be upset if afterwards he pilots 20 more players into the top 10 in the following week
pretty sure baker will clear kaz before saturn
stark sky
I don't care personally
But you know the community
Also yeah I don't want pilots
But if he clears idc good for him
queen grail
there, i went and did a normal aegir run for some free loot on my former lopang ...
Did he do damage? 
Seems fine for 1660, maybe get relic acc's but what's the dmg buff even for that?
tulip charm
Did he do damage? <:Hmmmge:765362110384439316> Seems fine for 1660, maybe get re...
can't tell if your srs, your really gonna go raiding with t3 accessories?
stark sky
Funny thing is my gl has t3 accessories
tulip charm
where is the other purple card, it nevers shows up
queen grail
can't tell if your srs, your really gonna go raiding with t3 accessories?
It's a normal Aegir Don't care much ngl, and show dmg from him
viscid sand
can't tell if your srs, your really gonna go raiding with t3 accessories?
their t4 accessories gonna be duds anyway 
stark sky
Did they ban the piloted titles in china
tulip charm
It's a normal Aegir <:pepoHmm:574086886629572629> Don't care much ngl, and show ...
no meter, i was only cruel fighter in both gates, this was a good team, no meteor mechs in g1
tulip charm
their t4 accessories gonna be duds anyway <a:OM:1299248362788360254>
duds is fine
stark sky
Nah
queen grail
no meter, i was only cruel fighter in both gates, this was a good team, no meteo...
So he most likely did fine 
and ye, I don't know how much damage you'll get from acc's since they have the same Ark Passive nodes.
stark sky
Nae had way longer
viscid sand
duds is fine
if thats the case then t3 accessories are fine too. you just lose a bit of dmg from main stat
obtuse oyster
Now they get to compete with Nae juicers
queen grail
duds is fine
If duds are fine, then It's less about damage and just perception
obtuse oyster
I feel like you’re pretty good on sup
Finding equally good dps who don’t already have a sup is probably the hard part
stark sky
me
queen grail
Didn't you have static? @sand marsh 
tulip charm
just make it top 20 youll be fine prob lol
tulip charm
since the first 15 will be dqed
cinder stag
Ok, question about KT. Im tryna KT my new character thats at ilv 50, it says i have to do a certain story quest and have a certain item level. Is there no other way to get that aside from market or something?
stark sky
lol
obtuse oyster
Ikr
queen grail
https://youtu.be/QeDc2fDLTs4?si=9uIN73nv31BEUaHK @obtuse oyster
stark sky
Oh gross
stark sky
Why would anyone go to that group
It's the worst of the worst
Their reputation is literal mud
tulip charm
If duds are fine, then It's less about damage and just perception <:HmmCoffee:11...
no? they knew all the mechs, no one died except at the end via unlucky stagebreak, i don't blame them for it, but its not perception, it literally takes 0 effort 0 gold to send some dud accs for fat powercreep, he dosn't do it?
cinder stag
ahh the prologue?
fresh flint
@sand marsh sir bus me in mordumdum
queen grail
no? they knew all the mechs, no one died except at the end via unlucky stagebrea...
What fat powercreep??? 
Some more main stats?
cinder stag
Ill send you toe pics and a $5 off coupon for piggly wiggly
obtuse oyster
Kek
fresh flint
Suck my nuts
obtuse oyster
True
fresh flint
I don’t enjoy progging
obtuse oyster
???
queen grail
You never invited him
obtuse oyster
Progging is fun
charred void
if you have time
neon cedar
Progging with pugs sucks ass
queen grail
Some people have raid anxiety tho, not that fun to prog then
obtuse oyster
Progging with pugs sucks ass
All I know is the trenches
fresh flint
I dont. Not when I have limited time after work. It’s kind of aids. And part of the reason I never progged Brel
queen grail
All I know is the trenches
obtuse oyster
Yea
stark sky
Yes
fresh flint
If I don’t prog hm I want to at least try to do nm once
queen grail
tulip charm
yea, next week
obtuse oyster
If I don’t prog hm I want to at least try to do nm once
Wait
queen grail
My man was not having a good day.
obtuse oyster
You haven’t done nm?
fresh flint
You haven’t done nm?
No
queen grail
I bet he'd rather be jailed in Behemoth than being there @charred void
tulip charm
this week you barely needed any effort to clear, next week and beyond will soon be auto pilot status
charred void
I bet he'd rather be jailed in Behemoth than being there <@153985058477178881>
he seen my style book creations
queen grail
this week you barely needed any effort to clear, next week and beyond will soon ...
But, zheng, what phat power creep???
tulip charm
kinda wish they sent out the revive system 1 week later, instead of this week, slightly cheapens the orange title for people that cleared in week 3
fresh flint
Sure
tulip charm
But, zheng, what phat power creep???
the fat powercreep you get for 0 effort
fresh flint
Can we do it next Monday or is that too late?
queen grail
the fat powercreep you get for 0 effort <:shruge:1100304847183560726>
But what powercreep? What do you get from Duds T3 vs Duds T4?
It's both duds
obtuse oyster
But what powercreep? What do you get from Duds T3 vs Duds T4?
One sparks joy, the other does not
fresh flint
No I work and close every weekend. But I can see at up late and run it when I get off.
obtuse oyster
It'll be an adventure lmao
Fr
queen grail
One sparks joy, the other does not
So then we are back to "it's about perception"
fresh flint
I mean Saturday or whatever is fine. I get off at 8pm tho so yeah
obtuse oyster
So then we are back to "it's about perception" <:hm:1090966021986340944>
Always has been till combat power ui
fresh flint
I work every weekend.
obtuse oyster
Then it’ll be about cheesing lines
stark sky
dboi
fresh flint
Can you look up my uwu and dm me with any changes I should make before we go in next week?
tulip charm
But what powercreep? What do you get from Duds T3 vs Duds T4?
really? we doing this? 3 lines of stats instead of 2 lines on t3 ancients? thats like 500000% power creep increase, for 0 effort
queen grail
really? we doing this? 3 lines of stats instead of 2 lines on t3 ancients? thats...
@tulip charm You get like 3k more main stats If anything properly cut T3 (And they are easy to cut since free) are better than duds T4
My guy, you get almost nothing if the T4 is just duds You silly goose.
obtuse oyster
<@647059249331044353> You get like 3k more main stats <:HmmCoffee:11754377027584...
If I see a 1660 with t3 accs they’re just rat tier for me
queen grail
You get less than 1% Main stats
tulip charm
my guy, why not just unequip your gems, instead of equiping them, its the same effort
fresh flint
Sent
queen grail
If I see a 1660 with t3 accs they’re just rat tier for me
Again, I agree, but then It's not about "He can't do damage with it" and just "It's just how it looks".
queen grail
my guy, why not just unequip your gems, instead of equiping them, its the same e...
Zheng, can you read? Yo don't get any massive power creep from going T4 duds (Duds mean with no bonus effects).
Come on man
You get less than 1% main stats going from T3 to T4
That's it, in fact, if your T3 is cut with actual stats It's better than your duds T4 trash item, So either upgrade to something worthwhile or don't.
fresh flint
I don’t even wanna talk about pheons. They pissing me off not giving any out lately
queen grail
I guess 999 is max stack
fresh flint
I have accessories to upgrade mother fuckers
obtuse oyster
I don’t even wanna talk about pheons. They pissing me off not giving any out lat...
Just go buy some
vagrant cradle
fresh flint
Just go buy some
I am broke broke
Any gold I have is for express or accessory upgrading
obtuse oyster
obtuse oyster
Any gold I have is for express or accessory upgrading
I just gotta upgrade two accs than I’m done
queen grail
Yea, don't upgrade with market relic's unless you big rich just cut what you get if you hit you hit if not who care.
obtuse oyster
Then it’s just hoarding to hone later
queen grail
And then upgrade with Ancient 
obtuse oyster
I spent 450k on skins and relic books like a dumbass
Om
fresh flint
My stabilized is max at least OM
obtuse oyster
Relic book is fine dmg increase there
fresh flint
obtuse oyster
OM
obtuse oyster
Did you get a legendary skin or basic purple skin
fresh flint
10 more books. But I need to wait for the dip
fresh flint
Did you get a legendary skin or basic purple skin
Oh it was one of those new ones for my zerker
queen grail
Oh it was one of those new ones for my zerker
fresh flint
Dude I even bought a character slot
obtuse oyster
Isn’t your zero t2
fresh flint
Didn’t even realize I had ONE WHOLE ONE SITTING THERE
obtuse oyster
zerk*
fresh flint
NOW I HAVE A SPARE
obtuse oyster
Nice lol
fresh flint
Yeh I’m gonna home him up naturally and use the pps on 2 fresh 1580s
Er well 1600 now I guess
obtuse oyster
I’m coping for a power pass and road event in July
Bringing back a bard from the dead
fresh flint
That’s what I’m coping on so hard rn
If we get that I’m also using it on my bard
She’s been 1620 for like 3 years
1610*
So once I push her to 1620 off of my spare my mats I’m using the rest to do 1-20 ah in t3
If Amazon don’t cook tomorrow I’m stabbing someone
Wah
the notes?
In roughly 13 hours
yessir
12 hours 41 mins
amber laurel
In KR, how rare is the guaranteed weapon quality tap?
fresh flint
what books
shhh
fresh flint
shhhh
neon cedar
valid turtle
nice!
fresh flint
yus
valid turtle
terry ive tried
valid turtle
how so?
ah like db and such?
EW really is a giga burst class
its still middle of the pack
there are worst options
valid turtle
how do i break this to you
queen grail
<:artistcaught:1263001728564068435>
What a whale 
neon cedar
I'm replacing my pistoleer
valid turtle
fresh flint
I'm replacing my pistoleer
NOOOOO WE LOST ONE
neon cedar
Fun class, but such a shame it sucks ass
queen grail
Fun class, but such a shame it sucks ass
My jaw is making crunchy sounds, is that normal?
valid turtle
only for g3 tho?
queen grail
neon cedar
NOOOOO WE LOST ONE
Very weak, super squishy, zero stagger and weak point, shitty counter on long cd.
I can't do it anymore. Not for real raiding
neon cedar
Maybe I'll put it back into the main 6 when it gets a real buff
vagrant cradle
neon cedar
My jaw is making crunchy sounds, is that normal?
Yes, the louder the healthier
fresh flint
Very weak, super squishy, zero stagger and weak point, shitty counter on long c...
LMAO STOP MAKING SENSE BRADEN I NEED HIM TO WORK UNTIL I CAN MAKE A NEW MAIN
neon cedar
as a main it's diff because you can really invest. Like books. To make him strong and good
valid turtle
Very weak, super squishy, zero stagger and weak point, shitty counter on long c...
ya but you glide across the battlefield
endless mobility
neon cedar
Ain't no way I'm doing that for an alt
fresh flint
Ain't no way I'm doing that for an alt
i dont even care, i just hate him now
i want to replace him so bad
xD
neon cedar
i dont even care, i just hate him now
You could have if you didn't change you mind on the class every week 
Commit and invest
fresh flint
You could have if you didn't change you mind on the class every week <:KEKDog:10...
OI
mortal burrow
Very weak, super squishy, zero stagger and weak point, shitty counter on long c...
Ez, 3 grenade tripod makes it do more stager than we
fresh flint
mortal burrow
Ww*
valid turtle
chaos
valid turtle
mortal burrow
@neon cedar what did you replace pistol with
queen grail
@neon cedar John is playing Tera
neon cedar
I think I'm gonna hone slayer. Idk if fem Pala is that cool to me
fresh flint
What does persona do for reaper,
What spec are you playing?
neon cedar
IDC about support and the dps isn't really the flashy I was hoping for
fresh flint
Hunger or Lunar?
mortal hedge
Idk I'm just leveling
neon cedar
<@202959015641219072> <:Looking:1222262916665839616> John is playing Tera
John who? And tera what? 
fresh flint
Then dont worry about it
mortal hedge
Level 14 so I'd imagine neither
mortal burrow
IDC about support and the dps isn't really the flashy I was hoping for
Same
queen grail
I think I'm gonna hone slayer. Idk if fem Pala is that cool to me
Play support.
fresh flint
It does nothing for you until you choose a spec, which is long long down the road @mortal hedge
mortal burrow
The only cool skill on fpally is the DPS t skill
queen grail
This game
mortal burrow
IDK about sup tho
queen grail
And Johnpal
fresh flint
For now you can use it as a speed boost for walking, or invisibility. That's it.
neon cedar
<:Looking:1222262916665839616> Play support.
If not slayer then the other option is my paladin. But Im really not trying to support these days and his dps build is even less flashy
neon cedar
Tera online
Oh, I've heard the name but nothing more than that tbh
mortal burrow
For now you can use it as a speed boost for walking, or invisibility. That's it.
Without hunger, chaos mode gives you some speed and crit rate and that's it
neon cedar
https://tenor.com/view/tera-tera-online-fight-gameplay-video-game-gif-17556174
Why is that zerker throwing an artist as kazeros
fresh flint
Doesnt it literally do nothing without a spec chosen
queen grail
Why is that zerker throwing an artist as kazeros
This is one of the class I played in Tera.
It's the sexy 
fresh flint
tera looks giga shiet
mortal burrow
Doesnt it literally do nothing without a spec chosen
It does
fresh flint
xd
queen grail
tera looks giga shiet
It's fun
neon cedar
Fem artillerist fancy
mortal burrow
Same with z
fresh flint
hes playing a private server
mortal burrow
Z boosts swoop DMG by a small amount
queen grail
I played Elin Breaker, Imagine a Specialist Breaker @neon cedar
mortal burrow
But a lower amount than what lunar z would give
queen grail
Bad picture and bad preset but you get the idea @neon cedar
Brawler is the class name in Tera tho Big Glove Punch Punch.
queen grail
hes playing a private server
Yea since the game is shut down so only priv server alive now
cursive ruin
in alabama there's no word for "potato"
fresh flint
????
valid turtle
<@137470072896618496>
hmm yes?
valid turtle
i played both specs
on ignite
and im like "where damage"
ofc it was ignite in solo raids, but fr i dont like her lmao
i feel like shes fallen off in popularity as well
fresh flint
she has yes
valid turtle
idk im learning towards berserker
leaning *
esp since hes not red dust locked anymore
neon cedar
neon cedar
You make things like eczemachan
neon cedar
Your wildsoul
queen grail
fresh flint
https://tenor.com/view/abomination-bene-gesserit-reverend-mother-mohiam-dune-gif...
is this a scene from dune
queen grail
is this a scene from dune
neon cedar
It's a scene from your ws char creation
queen grail
fresh flint
@neon cedar
do you know a spot where thirain isnt in his fucking castle
because i wanna get into selfie mode but you cant in the castle
neon cedar
Place him as an NPC in your stronghold
dull obsidian
Place him as an NPC in your stronghold
fresh flint
so true
dull obsidian
why are 7s so absurdly expensive
literally almost 10% more expensive than every gem lvl combined
fresh flint
Place him as an NPC in your stronghold
cant you only do that if you have him rizzed up?
neon cedar
You haven't rizzed him to trusted?
neon cedar
Rip bozo
fresh flint
u suc
neon cedar
If you did affection you'd even have a fancy suit option
queen grail
Just go rizz him? @fresh flint
queen grail
Wants to take a picture with him.
Does not want to rizz him.
When did romance die
neon cedar
Who tf is middle guy
fresh flint
thats the player on that party island
he be on the dancefloor trying to fuck everyone
wait...is he? hmmm..
yeah its him
cinder stag
Anyone know if smilegate likes toe sucking? Asking for uhh.. My goldfish. He wants to offer that for trusted status
neon cedar
Idk. Never seen it before
queen grail
where do i put this
Up your ass 
fresh flint
Up your ass <:Madge:887631725281288222>
THE FUCK YOU MEAN FOR
queen grail
THE FUCK YOU MEAN FOR
astral ermine
there was a reddit post earlier in the week, unknown what ass created it
looks like you go to a hidden hut in the north and click a table
fresh flint
https://tenor.com/view/so-good-wink-smile-oh-yeah-its-true-gif-24163876
cant hear you rn
vagrant cradle
wind dagger
fresh flint
<:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
stare
ok stylebook pissing me off
Idk why it keeps posting as my pistoleer when I’m posting from my zerker
wide stag
I think it always shows name of roster main for some reason.
wanton walrus
wanted to play now when i saw female paladin but i wan to wait mokoko challenge or returning goodie.. should i hold my online now and wait for moko event ?
tulip charm
wanted to play now when i saw female paladin but i wan to wait mokoko challenge ...
if you do plan on coming back, come back and get the basic sht out of the way first
rimeria story reclears, get the ark passive pot, and any horizontals you missed
there is some raid items locked behind unas too
wanton walrus
i afraid missing out the mokoko title so ppl wan mokoko in their lobby.. las time when this moko title happen i cant get the icon because i online 1 week ago of the mentioned date 
..
or i am thinking too much for nex moko event
fresh flint
New stylebook entry, check it out muah
tulip charm
i afraid missing out the mokoko title so ppl wan mokoko in their lobby.. las tim...
❓ why would you missout on mokoko title? i thought that thing was ilevel based
don't take my word for it on this, i am not sure
wanton walrus
iirc if u doesnt on for certain amount of period and on back during the event they gave u the mokoko icon , so ppl in the lobby carry mokoko get event coin
my fren get it while i dint
wanton walrus
how u get trusted again in LA? jus raid ye?
queen grail
Oh snap, there's a soul there too? I should just go get that.
fresh flint
Oh snap, there's a soul there too? <:Looking:1222262916665839616> I should just ...
yeah but its in rng boxes from the 3 dailies on the island
queen grail
yeah but its in rng boxes from the 3 dailies on the island
Better than the trash witch that refuse to drop
swift tree
Oh snap, there's a soul there too? <:Looking:1222262916665839616> I should just ...
there's a soul from pretty much every new island
swift tree
to walpurgis island
BEHOLD THE ORB
queen grail
there's a soul from pretty much every **new** island
Ye, but, I didn't think about the new place since I haven't even been there
unique pine
<:Looking:1222262916665839616> Ye, but, I didn't think about the new place since...
If ur for achievement there one for 3 daily quest on it (3/3 of each quest)
fresh flint
BEHOLD THE ORB
there are many orbs dere
swift tree
there are many orbs dere
Walpurgis is one big orba prison
fresh flint
sucks, ima have to do this dungeon 300 times
swift tree
unique pine
If ur complaining about walpurgis wait for Setino's bag % ur gonna uninstall the game
storm bronze
where patch notes
faint grove
what patch notes
storm bronze
why u dont buff team
fresh flint
why u dont buff team
stfu
storm bronze
tg
wise pasture
safe lark
slender sky
New stylebook entry, check it out muah
alrdy new skin on it whale
empty sleet
empty sleet
this glow so annoys me guys how can i fix any weapon skin recommend ?
worldly hawk
slender sky
@swift magnet @thorn basin
empty sleet
or repaer glow just bad in general :/
worldly hawk
<@289353434057146368> <@185492733669015553>
thorn basin
<@289353434057146368> <@185492733669015553>
that's literally you irl
wide stag
this glow so annoys me guys how can i fix any weapon skin recommend ?
you can choose which glow you want to use, or hide it completely.
storm bronze
just turn off glow
worldly hawk
that's literally you irl
HAHAHA
storm bronze
slender sky
that's literally you irl
you wanna fight?
thorn basin
you wanna fight?
yes come here big boy
empty sleet
just turn off glow
I want it to shine more. It's not fair that 25 weapon have such a small glow :/
storm bronze
worldly hawk
yes come here big boy
fight in bed? 
empty sleet
thorn basin
fight in bed? <:flusheddd:784879091060965376>
worldly hawk
wise pasture
I want it to shine more. It's not fair that 25 weapon have such a small glow :/
just become zerker
worldly hawk
<:KEKW:834726120606924850> just become zerker
empty sleet
<:KEKW:834726120606924850> just become zerker