#lost-ark-discussions
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Nomnom 
Some jobs dont get it sadly 
Never
man
I don't cut relic shit
because i only played one char on my sorc roster for several months, only ading wildsoul when she came out
and an aero afterwards
i will never finish this card, right?
like there is no way to do it
since we're beyond echidna now
solo raid?
yeah lemme go and do raids
its like 3min per gate at 1640
youll be fine with doing solo raid 4x per week
Is it bad behaviour to join a field boss mid fight?
no
Quite normal
the main problem is that if i really need to do 600 echidnas
at 3 per week it's gonna take me 4 years
so maybe the rate isn't 2% idk
It is what it is
then dont do it?
but i kinda doubt it's much higher than 5
yeah but then i'm gonna get fucked over
1-2 years down the line
There is always other sources of cards we get over time
when they yet again introduce some new card set that's gonna require echidna
and without it you get gatekept from some raids again
friend of mine's been complaining about getting kicked from a brel for not having lightning set
cause he doesn't have valtan i think
or whatever legion commander it is there
speaking of...
or requiring it
ironically i still need one clown card
like u had any trouble with LoS?
i've been needing one clown card since we stopped doing clown
Brel gatekeep
i did have trouble with it on JS until i finished farming it tho
oh, i personally haven't had an issue with it
same
but i also have at least 18 of it
so it's not a huge thing
luckyyy
supp sets 
i keep forgetting i basically played this sorc as a solo char
frog carried my ass with cards
so getting some of those cards is basically impossible
i bought all the frogs too but got very little
they will add things like Luen, Luttera, Galaturd and such in card vendors
so thats a W
but legion raid cards 
you literally have a source to get echidna card
they have a 2% drop rate
yeah but i already have those on the main one
wdym its impossible
it's an absurdly low chance
????
2% chance is low fayten
and it takes way too long for literally no other reason than the card
try getting luen now
they will add it in vendors so problem solved there
where do you get luen right now
well if you didn't play before chaos gate change
you should quit okay
i've been complaining about SG having this attitude for years
and somehow people keep arguing back at me that it's fine
just do challenge abyss for luens
oh wait, they removed that too!
clearly you're just meant to do card islands
its ok as long as u got 24set frfr
for now
not the commanders tho, right?
nope
it's SG, you always have to assume the worst
Yay
why do you want them to make a ruling on alt roster
yeah, someone sneaked into the rice eater kakao talk on KR and they were despair mode
the game's gonna be worse if they rule against alt rosters
and it's gonna be worse if they rule in favor of them
nah fk the alt rosters
well
delete them from existing
good, very good
alt rosters get relic book drops, but they don't use them
they get gem drops, but they don't use them
unemployed rice monkeys
hope they do the exact same here and eradicate that infestation
as koreans call them
if there's no alt rosters anymore, you're gonna be paying more for your relic books
is that what you want?
not to mention party finder will be emptier
and there's probably gonna be a support shortage on lower levels again
lets just chalk it up to predujice against alt rosters
pls dont try to make petty excuses
they're not petty excuses
petty
altrosteraerroon on complete copium mode
they cant eradicate that scum soon enough
so the supply is going to decrease
ure only talking this crap cause ure one of em
then they do it
and then months later you complain about book prices being too high
but i guess that's just regular lost ark player
demand things be made worse
surely the minimal amounts of relic book drops make up for the insane amounts of gold that altrosters generate and raise prices in the meantime
then complain that they're worse
Back when brel 1.0 was still popular i ran into these alt roster rats all the time, and they were always playing paladin with the bare minimum required gear etc, cos they know they get insta invited to brel 1-3 and get basically a free bus.
literal no thought behind those eyes
one of them even told me he was playing like 7 accounts or something
???
relic books come from the same source as the gold
it literally won't change it other than there being less supply
delete them
should i dance my sentence for you to understand? altrosters generate millions of gold with zero effort behind it, that causes a lot more damage than the supply they offer on relic books or gems.
they also generate books
make multi accounts against tos
at the same rate as they generat the gold
and the thing is that with what you're saying
they should already all be finish with their books
if they really generate "millions of gold" "with no effort"
?!?!
where do you think relic books come from?
do you think alt rosters use relic books?
i have relic explosive expert on my single roster jumpstart paladin
does t hat count
that shouldve been the ruling 2 years ago
at the very latest before ignite server was introduced
yupp
also theres is a very big difference between just alt rosters on same region or straight fresh accounts abusing all the boosting systems the game gives you
"we will gatekeep new players in akkan for 5 weeks with no chance of progressing but we will let some mentally handicapped freaks spawn a dozen 1640 alt rosters for free"
You guys just don't seem to get the negative impact this would have
It's like when we lose bots
is my game actually better now that the bots are gone? no
now i'm paying more for fusions
and what's the benefit? none i can see
not that i like bots, but their absence most certainly increases my honing costs
Achtually it's the Chinese soci- I mean trusted system
-social credit
And their presence increased the value of high commodity goods
tru tru 
yea fusions are more expensive now, but at the same time you can also make more gold from lifeskilling now...
but its so goood
ags does something about bus ads in pf - people "bussers please come back"
Don't care, alt rosters are cancer
nono pls stop, the millions of gold pumped into the economy that normally wouldnt be there are surely being offset by the 2 relic books listed on occassion
Your argument is so close to the illegal workers argument its kinda funny to me.. We banned (deported) all the bots(workers/slaves), now we have to pay more for our stuff!
That gets instantly sniped by a whale
because gold and relic books come from the same source at the same rates
they are PROPORTIONAL to one another
but since they don't use them, having them increases the supply
One is rare, the other is not
Only when everyone is playing with the same income
More gold pumped into economy than a decent relic book
that would matter if you could generate enough fusions with your own life skilling
Funneling accounts and bussing shifts that balance
but mathematically you can't
that just can't be true though
unless they do raids that don't drop relic books
It's fkn alt roster rats, what u expect them to do
so bussers are the bad guys inflating relic engraving and gem prices for 3 years 
Echidna and Behemoth rarely ever drop relic books
Always have been along with rmters (and decent amount of them rmt)
so does aegir and brel?
but that doesn't change the gold to relic ratio
especially since, again, those rosters presumably don't use the books themselves
its so much fun
Cube grinding
1640 rats can only do Thaemine, Echidna and Behemoth, relic books are also extremely rare, when gold is constant income, obviously there's a big difference there

i love predator slayer 
anyway, i wanted to expand on this: the problem is that you don't generate enough life skill energy
This reminds me i have like 250 cubes 
to keep up with fusion generation for a full roster
your 6 chars generate honing mats at a faster rate than your life skill energy gives you fusions
and this ratio gets worse the higher honing level your gear gets
Yea life skills suck
something like 3 char roster is about the brek even point
add in events and it's about 4 chars
so with 5-6 char rosters you're gonna have to get extra life skill mats elsewhere or you will have to delay your honing despite having all the other mats
this is why whenever the bots are gone
our fusion prices go up by a lot
You can’t have your cake and eat it to
Well.. Yea I get that it refreshes at 5k per day or whatever, you can however buy the potions from the shop and craft ungodly amounts of fusion mats as long as you have the time to go do lifeskilling.. And its probably still more efficient to do it this way than buying the fusion mats.
throwing 50k bots into the game would just make fusion go from 110g to 60g while making H - - accs go from 50k to 200k, and relic engravings
the shop potions are also kinda limited though, but i haven't done the math on what the breakeven point there is
you might be right
You either get profitable life skills selling fusions or their zero reason to sell to the market cause everyone is self sufficient
fusion mats prices are going crazy cos most players are too lazy to actually go gather for hours and hours and rather just buy the mats instantly
well, i'd argue most people don't do life skilling
so there'd always be reason to sell
like most people are too lazy to even craft fusions
despite it being free money
and has been since day 1
not wrong
Either way, no one's a winner
all of this stuff would work fine
Why would u want cake if not to eat it
if we had lots of low level (new) players
Yea its fucked up either way, but id still prefer there was 0 bots and 0 alt roster rats... That to me is the lesser evil.
filthy multi-acc
Om
because this system gives them an advantage
beyond me why they dont put a 10$ price tag on the game on steam, like bdo
they get a relic book now, sell it, and by the time they need it the books will be much cheaper
same for fusions and even gems
would fix a bit of the alt account/bots abusers
except that with gems we've had such a huge population drop off
that we generated a large bulk of the gems in the first years of the game
when 11500 life energy takes 15m to burn

and have basically been consolidating the gems from people who quit
not even
if even that.. its like 5min every day and u can easily do it while waiting for chaosgate or boss to spawn
Most of the population didn’t even reach t3
that is wrong. bots and alt rosters drop the price of every single item in lost ark cosmos, theres no downside to them. -AltRosterAerroon
idk
we had hundreds of thousands of players months after the game came out
We had near a million on launch
at least 200k+ for the entire first year
i mean its not wrong if they increase the supply of relic engravings but make everything else worse(gatekeeping standards higher gems, more fomo)
it took icy and me 3 hours to burn through like
240k energy
was that the shots of like 33k logs?
the mental gymnastics on some of them is entertaining to read at least, so theres some upside to it
58k white 33k green and 8k of each blue
I have been slowly working on my situation... I was slacking for long time and now this is just depressing.. gonna take like entire day to burn trough all this.
but thats probably worht like a million gold lol
F2P
yea i guess
Thank god for Rimeria
Fortunes to Play
what is life

?
?
That’s close to what I had
I need to step it up
damn purples
it does seem like rimeria would be more gold on average
like purple tree
in abidos will spawn in that zone
we logged for an hour at abidos and saw like 3 purple trees
you use to go to the other zone
@dull obsidian my understanding is that you can only ever have 2 purple trees on the map
there are more spawn slots than there are trees
nah we cut literally like 5 purples in a row
but if a tree spawns in one of those slots and nobody cuts it down
that tree stays there

and in abidos the trees can spawn in that one corner absolutely nobodye ver goes into
rimeria path is also..
really short
the 3 trees and within 2s of each other if you are mobile
it felt like rimeria had fewer spawn slots for trees
some trees just kept reappearing in the same spot
only person I'd have to worry about being there is @neon cedar
like i sat at one tree the other day
and just kept clicking on it whenever i alt tabbed into the game
it's like 200g per click or something
We had someone doing that and yoinking our tree
I think
He stole 5 of our purple trees
ye..

rimeria is great for that
there are a whole bunch of spawns with no mobs around
whereas abidos has like 2 such trees
Rimera has higher spawn rate from what I experienced
ye
Rimera is better
1000%
dyed them
Cube?
That seems like much tickets
@swift tree peak art
wdym it looks pretty decent
oh my sweet summer child
they drew this cause the artist was disappointed Narrok and Ephernia didnt have a clash similar to Kadan and Thae
a hidden sidereal basically
yeah I get
when patch notes
what's the bet there ends up being a hidden one discovered way later
on RU website


@swift tree send australian winter to france thanks
comes out day after update, not before
Instructions unclear, New Caledonia has frozen over
RU got them yday
so there
but for us in like 5-7 hours
as long as tasmanian devils lives it's fine

Memo been simping over that art i posted earlier
hello los angeles server
i built the twin towers in legos 
can u build me 2 lvl 8 gems

Waaa
Oh, thought it was something better
Ya idk
hes losing his mind waiting for the Valkyrie skill showcase
if it isnt Sir Darek Helicat DLD
Where Valkyrieeee
Where Valkyrieeee

She a cute
They just link paladin skill showcase

nah they said shes built different than the other 3
Well, she definitely is visually anyway
fpala > old supports
Hope so
fpala > male pala prayge
just gets the best from old supports
Make pala obselete 
watch her 4th node being broken

100% uptime everything, full ranged, burst and passive healing
- crit synergy
watch them do the reverse, gets pala identity uptime, bard brand, artist dr 

surely multidollar company is aware of these 3 support issues

Surely they won't make her just as crap as paladin
paladin is fun 
paladin is fun if ur intent is to sleep
yes if youre old
cause then it works
my fun part about paladin is using spacebar for push immunity and watch dps noobs fly around
holy sword is 99% of the fun
yes, until you make it shit
they changed it ?
and use wealth rune with max meter gen tripod
instead using it for max stagger
because metergen is ass
or opt out using holy area and sacrifice your proactive or reactive counter
was the most satisfying counter spell
and even then youre still behind by like 30% identity uptime compared to the other 2 supports
fun fun 

any t4 lvl 7 cd for dmg?, trade channel isnt working for me
try ingame world boss area before/after spawn
Which of these do i take?
dont open
^
last event gave kinda free lwc/los
cause its better to open them when ure near completion of a set
you might get both for free
not might, you get both
but we arent 100% sure yet
in august
These are random books tho
bottom pack is harder to get cards from right now
Not selectors
yes we are, russian patchnotes
I would understand if they were selector books but they random ones
they get an express in July
just dont open
this is a game centered around rng and luck
not like you gain anything right now from them
Yes
^
I really don't wanna argue this just trying to understand this more. Is my luck gonna change when I open it later?
Doesn't mean we get same
since you get them for free soontm
So old one is where I get DD and LoS from?
LWC/LoS
we always got the same or very simmelar to russia

LWC?
lostwind cliff
lost wind cliff
support card set
I see
next class event will have 30set of both
most likely
but the bottom one has cards that are harder to get
lol

yeah dont open nothing will change for u
youre like ilvl 1400 it just doesnt matter
Didn't know
Yes but remember we got extra T3 only mats in shop while RU got T4 mats
my point still stands
if ure new random one as well
youre 1-2 years behind on old cardset
cause ull gain no benefit from using it
and opening new cardpack doesnt do anything
Yeah, just saying it's not guaranteed, but probably
like wei, balthorr, azena
Epic and below I can keep ripping?
there is a 99,9% chance it's going to happen
You're very optimistic
yes, because i'm not delusinoal.
HE IS COMING BACK TO LIFE
Delusional is what you are though

Delululu 

Icee gonna become valkyre main? 
everyone will 
fuck no 
Only if she’s fun
people like me that don't like support gameplay won't
If not the bard keeps on trucking


yeah idk, i just don't like the support gameplay
For Dragon Knight ill probably bench my Sorc
and i don't want to be a 🐑
But that's next year stuff so cba
My Tier 4 supp sets are almost 30set
It would be a waste

By August depending on the events we get + Valkyrie express card packs
I could have 2-3 of them maxed

I drive around on my butt like a car
Whale
I mean, it's unrewarding, and not fun when u play with idiots (most pugs tbh)
I like to intentionally take big damage when I know the shield is going away
Gotta keep my support on there toes
@ebon snow gave @dusty linden +1 reputation.

Gauge classes in cubes r booty cheeks
By the time I build up enough for a Boulder bear some zerker has t skilled everything down
Yeah, well, no other way to get gameplay out of paladin 
Me on my sorc standing half an arena away using my ignite with the artist just looking at me like
Undeserved
Imagine if this was a year ago
imagine if i did this shit 2 years ago 
@wintry depot Style book and hair on next reset yes? 
Style book never
Aight juan is back to default settings
In your utube guides, replace you talking with an animated whale
Stylebook yea i think, hair no
Considering ru doesnt get them aswell
i ate all the hair, it went extinct
@charred void
50 gold at least!
What the actual
i just throw them away
Are you selling them
Same
Give them to this new EU player who could use em
I could need some mass increase and raid captain would pay market
Hey
I'll pay
okay
Offered to pay
I know you did
If u were on na I woulda just spooned you books for free tbh I don't use anything but relics anymore
No one wants to play on na with the cool kids tho
I can't keep getting things for free
dont waste unbound gold on them 
I would have to much delay
It's how we help keep new ppl around
New players without a boost event
Stressfully times
Every system u gotta do from scratch
And it sucks
Why are there books for 18k?
LET US HELP YOU
those were like on release prices
No relic came in t4
I see
Yellows didn't come on launch
they did
I mean I guess it's reasonable for it's time prob didn't have so many sources as today
So when they dropped they were pretty expensive compared to the gold you could make weekly
Back then like brel and clown
Were ur gold earners
I see
Insanity
That's around +15 no?
Probably wasn't that much being generated at that time tho
with relic gear
Oh yeah bloodstone shop
Did the destined day happen already?
then you wonder why everyone on na was running around with half a mill gold 1 month into the game
Or are we on the same step? from the orange quest
We are at the point in the story where all that's left really is to kill kazeros
But I won't say more than that
Spoilers and all
I see
We married echidna on the destined day
So you guys here too?
I think the destined day was during the kurzan storyline when ||kazeros got resurrected||
I see
No we have the ark in the story

Aight
Aight mb
Ur good I just don't wanna spoil it for you on accident, I remember you said you wanna experience it
Yeah makes sense
That's for the Kazeros raid in August(for Korea) onh
You only get the first time once
Ong*
So yeah
any flippers on eu
Whale
How wtf
SURE
Not very F2P of you
WE ALL BELIEVE YOU
whaleboi
buy this now
I still have 40 chaos pots
Oh smart
Cause i forgot to use them after using the timed ones
now you place it for 19k
Seggs
I see

Now you despair over pheons
congrats you made 10k gold out of thin air
Thank you
yes poor new player with 400 pheons is in shambles now
Very
Alt roster with RMT weapon*
gets denied because of roster level 
Buying gold off the soon to be extinct rice farmers
No
the fuck did you buy
DONT WASTE UR PHEONS
am i tripping
Tf??
THOSE FUCKERS ARE STUPID TO GET MORE OUTSIDE OF EVENTS
I am 100% sure I had 255 max
you can go into debt??
keep around 100 pheons
I never used them outside the two skins you gave me
Fayten gave him skins?
ags made event and every created character got 10 pheons in mail, so morons kept producing characters
W fayten
So all gold you earn just takes away that debt?
"I got a full set a gems from a 'friend' I know"
somehow that guy isnt perma banned
You can be put into negative anything, don't fk around with bugs
Silver is probably the worst to be negative
some random in SEA managed to buy themself a house
whale
What's the bet Lost Ark bots also operated out of that location in Myanmar
does the paradise update gets an overhaul in korea until it releases over there?
Can we get an AGS mod to verify this guy's account, I suspect RMT
I mean it's a classic give human volatile items and they gonna explode
literally new player with 50 hours played 
Whaleboi
Abuser, classic.
Expensive
I'm not you 
I'll fight you rn

So can I buy those books?
Weird way to type Congrats 
Aly answer the man
if you want to flip some more
but i dont think you have gold left
buy these 5k gold skins
POGGERS
Who?
im not the stupid dadgamer putting skins for half price on auction
But low sell high is how you've gotten rich in games for decades
What books?
my collection?
Nothing
@ember crag
dont check for name
You said you where gonna thrash some out
He wants to buy some of those books u posted a pic of
Nah that's @charred void I just hoard.
how many hours until patch notes?
Never
Patch notes r a myth
Don't make him waste his pheons on 5k skin flips. He's gonna need them
Wtf is EOS
yes let him hold on 200 pheons instead of honing
Oh bet
Yes, 
I can't do anything rn anyway
When you need pheons they vanish 
I have to wait to do brel again
I can't
Rip
Don't wanna loose job
lost ark is your new job
I was lucky they alowed me to do operation
^
I'm not even out of the zone where I could actually make content
Fair point I guess
I can wait to get mass increase and raid captain up
grudge adre and one else are legendary
The pheon cost is higher than the gold from flipping and he's gonna need them
that's fine enough for now
june 22 while doing yearning soul grind, 500g each 3 times tradeable
No
yes hes gonna need 175 pheons when he hits 1680
I don't think so
in 3 months
Tf for what??
True
In the meantime tho while we wait getting deep dive up will still help more than Star of destiny
For your solo mode DPS checks
Yea and he's gonna cut a great stone in 1 try like all of us do. Don't be dumb
to buy this 5 times
Deep dive will be better when It's awakend no
Yes
& a bracelet
i dont think he gets raid invited even with a 9/7 stone and 5 line bracelet, dont be dumb
I can't wait to get my free card xp
the traveling ones?
Every 6 hours the traveling merchants rotate, you wanna try and complete all the cards they sell aka having 15 of each
Buying out all cards from merchants is a nice boost overall especially if you awaken them all
Not yet no
Proper accessories for a real endgame build. Seriously dont be wasting your pheons on the market for pennies of profit. You are going to need them
I think it takes like 30 mins to respawn in between the 6 hour time
But yeah always just check your map and hit up those traveling merchants a few times a day
I have only 20 slots remaining
or 40
So I need to start buying new slots with blue gems correct?
Leveling your roster, at certain points gives crystals
How much is a slot?
I see
You unlock an entire row
I can wait for now I think
At a time
You need to buy every single slot btw there isn't even enough cards to fill out everything
I see
It's an investment you have to make at some point
Yeah
It goes up the further you go down
please
Whale cardsss
dont waste blue crystals
I have 480 slots rn, if I go to 490 it'll cost me 50
on useless cardslots
Huh
I think 50 is the max it costs tho
people have no idea what they suggest here
You don't need more card slots rn
When you do need them sure buy them
But don't go just throwing currency's you don't fully understand yet or there value into things
It might save you further down the line
Which server is good for new players?
thaemine
Any
yesss yesss, go up!
just wait until fpala release
any servers?
IT WENT UP
Most content are done through party finder which is region wide
All major content is region wide. Theyre all the same for new players really
Guys if the combined materials of the tap is more expensive than the juice materials (breaths) I should always juice correct? since i'm jumping from 4% to 8%. is my understanding correct?
The one without baldboi
If you want a populated server go Luterra
Come Ratik
Come play on balthorr

We have the most stable server
Who knows, sometimes mats go down even with new class since ppl hoard so long + good event's.
That's gonna happen with fem pally as well
Doubt they go up much
They didn't go up much with WS
Hey
Yeah
Did SG mention details about the kazeros raid releases?
Protection goes up by 1-2g which is nothing
August 20
Because they said there's two of them
Both Act 4 and Kazeros will release same Day
Act 4 is 1700/1720
Kazeros is 1710/1730
What's the chance SG pulls a fast one on us
And releases act 4 and delays kazeros proper by months
Also NM/HM Kazeros won't release the first week
Also what do we even get from act 4
remember bat guardian leapstone prices on ws release?
If a group clears world first, the next week NM/HM will unlock for the normiew
which were higher than the endgame leapers
Yeah
Oh yeah when is KR patching
You can clear Act 4 but not Kaz
Like how many hours from now
11 hours or so
Also the community event is cool as well
I want to know if we are deposited in T3 or not for paladin
You can debuff Kazeros or buff the parties running the race
Feels like a true war ngl
It's gonna impact which roster I put the pally on
What's act 4
Echidna g1
G1 Echidna, G2 Armoche(final abyss lord)
Some aegir-mordum type guy as G2
And nice titties as usual
They also described the fight being a Ballroom dance
Yes but that doesn't mean it's not annoying
Yeah annoying isn't related to difficulty
have to prog g1 with gay people so they can focus on the raid 
G1 Thaemine is annoying in Act 3 but its gita easy
Thaemine in mordum is not hard
Giga*

SE is really good against Thaemines movement
You can absolutely hit his rhythm with movement
Whale
It is
Ark Grid is in August right?
They should lock it to 1730 gear max with 8 gems and no books
It is, but this time its much better executed
I didn't like TFM
KFM feels much more structured
I think this one is gonna be worse
If we played on KR server I would like these events
Also its speculated that Kazeros looking outfit is a reward for contributing to the event
But I really dislike them here
But who knows
Because the only people in the competition are the cheaters
Yeah
Well "cheaters"
People who prog the raid on KR
People who go play it on other servers
And stuff like that
I knew some of the people going for it last time





