it is not like normal groups get grabbed much less, now that most good people do the 1700 dino
#lost-ark-discussions
wise pasture
past ginkgo
It was fine for my first time, but obviously bottom dps
wise pasture
I mean, it is a guardian, doesnt really matter
past ginkgo
I have to start resting Scrapper and Slayer for guardians
No point in doing those unrested tbh
Oh wow I fill a argeos pf lobby with no gatekeep
Damn, normally people gatekeep those for 1660+ LOL
vocal pollen
I just had a 
Argeos.... we enter, Destroyer is omega behind, takes a chip damage attack, down to 30% hp, runs down ladder to heal, and dies then alt f4s, paladin ends up dying twice just standing in random things
boss was at 89% when we quit 
past ginkgo
Tbh even if you take 1640s
It barely makes a difference actually
OH NO 15 seconds longer fuck the world ends
What should I do man...
vocal pollen
yea, idc i'll run it with anyone, as long as it dies, it's fine in my eyes
it's just when people don't really even try
past ginkgo
Btw, I hope we get Behemoth solo soon
vocal pollen
requeue'd and got the same paladin
past ginkgo
Been doing those on slayer for weeks, you need literally nothing for it
Can take rat gems and fine
vocal pollen
but didn't have floor / dc destroyer + Sorc casting at air
so free win
I should try Robust Spirit 
past ginkgo
Since these characters mostly only do chaos/solo raids, they never even interact with people
That is nice
past ginkgo
I should try Robust Spirit <:blobthinkingglare:486879538953846784>
sure why not
wise pasture
I just had a <:monkaW:852981094122913833> Argeos.... we enter, Destroyer is omeg...
how can paladin even die there, it is challenge to even take dmg
past ginkgo
Oh my Scrapper still has 4pc but I realized it doesn't matter
past ginkgo
Because when Aegir goes solo, I just get the 5th piece xd
You guys think our next express will be more juiced out for female paladin?
I'm already thinking about keeping Reaper at 1660 for now
And use it on her
If possible
meager hill
You guys think our next express will be more juiced out for female paladin?
unlikely tbh
past ginkgo
It really depends... because I don't know what else I'm gonna use it for
My 3-4 character sweetspot is locked down, they would just end up being a solo worker xd
meager hill
my main 6 are outside the range for the pass
so I'll prolly use it on fem pally herself
unless her ap / brand sucks balls
then I'll yolo an alt
past ginkgo
I planned that with actual decent gems, but that plans are cancelled
The group raid limit won't go over 12 anymore, it's the absolute max
Anything else is quick solo raid for some bound gold and done
vocal pollen
finished my dailies, time to play Slormancer 
vocal pollen
royal summit
ye bro
where the mordum guides at
you still sleepin
I'm gonna make release a new video called "LOST ARK PLAYERS LOVE EATING SHIT AND ONLY DESERVE THE WORST" before i do my actual essay
meager hill
iirc I watched your brel 1-3 guides because I couldn't find anything else that actually covered the nerfs the raid got
but then I never found a gate 4 one and you said in a comment you wouldn't make one
so 
cauttyh's stream
past ginkgo
I'm gonna make release a new video called "LOST ARK PLAYERS LOVE EATING SHIT AND...
I mean... that isn't entirely wrong
We do love to eat fucking shit
You can't deny that
Because any reasonable person would've left like years ago
meager hill
I must have moved on by then, brel 1-3 hm were becoming a struggle
past ginkgo
But here we are
royal summit
Because any reasonable person would've left like years ago
i absolutely lost my shit when i read the complaint thread about NOT adding the revive system on mordum release
past ginkgo
Yeah it's braindead
royal summit
"please dont add revives it will make things piss easy pls nooooooooo"
past ginkgo
OH NO you can revive once, what a tragedy
royal summit
oh yeah progging 600 bars is so fun
lemme attempt to try x145 mech once every 3 hours
meager hill
wipe mechs are still wipe mechs so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
past ginkgo
Yeah that is the point
royal summit
it will make hw less stressful and more "fun" since you can fuck around
past ginkgo
"piss easy" my ass
royal summit
and progging a little easier because you dont have to constantly reset because someone was too nervous and slipped
jesus jumping christ
"koreans are so dumb omg how are they so blind and never listen"
meanwhile our mentally challenged folks
past ginkgo
It was like that learning and progging Brel with others
Was fun resetting 2 hours for the same guy
dying in p1
meager hill
people just need to realise that HM will never be the challenge they want for as long as it's a REQUIRED progression path
past ginkgo
Which could've been avoided if revives were there
meager hill
and since challenge mode is going to be added in a few months, hm simply will never be what they want
royal summit
just for the record
i don't think that's inherently bad either way
i think the repetition is the problem
if i didn't have to fucking grind my ass off every week
swift tree
past ginkgo
Yeah thank god they add a challenge mode with no revives, people can get their sweaty tryhard raids there
royal summit
(and i only play 3 chars)
i don't think a big fat prog every once in a while is bad
meager hill
Which could've been avoided if revives were there
bold of you to assume the guy wouldn't have immediately died again 
past ginkgo
Progging with that person was a pain in the ass
Because he regressed instead of progressed
royal summit
i dont think 6 gates brel was inherently bad either
but the fact you have to repeat that under time pressure constantly
nah dawg
I can see why people yell hell mode when you ask for that
but at the same time i kinda don't wanna grind for "nothing"
past ginkgo
Yeah like why do people not get more into Hell mode raids
LOL
You still get a fancy title, should be worth it
I remember 1-2 years ago, all these hell mode proggers getting their deathless titles
What happened
safe lark
past ginkgo
No like, there is so many people who complain about easy content
But they never progged one hell mode
meager hill
hell modes also don't fully use AP, which can make a lot of classes be clunky
past ginkgo
Yeah your own fault
royal summit
they are just the loudest, i love how everyone speaks for "everyone" when nobody has exact numbers- those people may be the loudest, but are they really the majority? who knows
meager hill
no one wants to play a gimped version of their class
royal summit
also we're all animals
what's the reward for doing hell brel
i mean title is cool
swift tree
what's the reward for doing hell brel
Aura
royal summit
yea sure but that's what makes it niche aswell
yeah i think the only thing that would tickle me as a casual / semi hardcore (where the fuck am i being classified in even?) is something like TFM
past ginkgo
The only thing I know is... Benji made a video, he loves the new changes
royal summit
didnt do TFM but i can relate with our first g4 clear
past ginkgo
Seems like most of KR loves the revive change
swift tree
The only thing I know is... Benji made a video, he loves the new changes
He nailed the reasoning for it too
past ginkgo
Western people are dentge
royal summit
Western people are dentge
swift tree
Accessibility > Punishment for the quality of life in an MMO
past ginkgo
Yeah many got those maxed out for sure
swift tree
I wouldnt say Western is more hardcore, they just play with more filled-out rosters
past ginkgo
I mean you can't really change it, the hardcore niche seems to be the majority of the western LoA playerbase
One point I'm glad that the HLC in OSRS is a minority..
Yeah especially with all these altroster people
That tells enough
They want to minmax as much as possible
burnt tree
Ban the main accounts of alt roster users thx
burnt tree
They want to minmax as much as possible
Min maxing on non competitive game then forcing your petty standards on everyone else who ain't playing like you
past ginkgo
I blame the guys who said in the past that 6 characters are required
They gave birth to this mindset
It never recovered
burnt tree
Yeah, KR always had shit events they couldn't rely on them so they needed alts alts
swift tree
YoU gOt tO uSe oThEr AcCoUnTs tO bOoSt YoUr MaIn
royal summit
aged like millk
fresh flint
That’s because the west relied on Korea for information since the beginning days
burnt tree
Well we didn't know our events would be JUICY
swift tree
That’s because the west relied on Korea for information since the beginning days
*Korean Sweat Streamers
burnt tree
Compared to KR
royal summit
but that tactic might've been accurate for that exact time frame tho
fresh flint
*Korean Sweat Streamers
True
swift tree
Also people relied too much on whale streamers
like Zeals and Stoopz
fresh flint
Listening to zeals is one of the worst fucking things people could have done for this game
burnt tree
Zeals shouldn't be lecturing anyone
fresh flint
Zeals shouldn't be lecturing anyone
Yeah doworkhk should definitely stay in his lane
past ginkgo
It's kinda funny because Zeals has now entirely quit the game
fresh flint
swift tree
It's kinda funny because Zeals has now entirely quit the game
and so has most of his fanbois
past ginkgo
Guy removed all the LoA things from his discord as well
burnt tree
Saint despite dropping like 80-90k on the game has a lot of knowledge about the game as it is than how Zeals perceived it
swift tree
crashout was real
burnt tree
Plus he admitted he shouldn't have mentioned the 6 characters thing
fresh flint
Did he say why he quit
burnt tree
Zeals milked LOA ON and bailed
swift tree
Guy removed all the LoA things from his discord as well
Bet he'd say something like "They're catering to casual babies now, so Im, not bothering to come back" (mad that his 200k siderial doesn't make him all powerful).
burnt tree
He went back to Gachas
He lost a lot of viewers due to the dowork situation as well
And lost a lot of subs too
fresh flint
Yup his views and interactions went hella down. He’s a piece of shit.
past ginkgo
Bet he'd say something like "They're catering to casual babies now, so Im, not b...
No he actually said: "why should people waste time on a game where they sit in party finder simulator for hours when they can just play something else that is more fun, it's so joever"
burnt tree
Plus lost ark generally not having a lot of views/interactions outside of new continents/balance patches/raids
swift tree
No he actually said: "why should people waste time on a game where they sit in p...
He's not wrong, but it's the whaling shitlords like him that impose the unrealistic gatekeeping requirements
past ginkgo
And tbh, Lost Ark views are down in general, everyone losing out on views
past ginkgo
He's not wrong, but it's the whaling shitlords like him that impose the unrealis...
true
royal summit
ye being a "content creator" for lost ark isn't too difficult or lucrative
burnt tree
No he actually said: "why should people waste time on a game where they sit in p...
Probably cause the Koreans found out about DoWork and didn't want him either
When he got to experience an average players situation he fked off
royal summit
any balding middle aged man can call himself some shit like deathboi69
and do solo raids tutorials
🫡
past ginkgo
Nah he was just dooming a lot in the end and I think he simply had enough
burnt tree
xXDeathboiXx
fresh flint
ye being a "content creator" for lost ark isn't too difficult or lucrative
Unless you’re stoopz and get sponsorships because everyone calls him the face of lost ark.
burnt tree
Yeah he doomed a lot since last years Summer LOA ON
swift tree
Unless you’re stoopz and get sponsorships because everyone calls him the face of...
whilst streaming anything but Lost Ark itself
royal summit
ilu deathboi pls don't take it serious
helped out a ton when i came back and you had updated guides
🫡
past ginkgo
Yeah stoopz streams more other things now than Lost Ark
fresh flint
whilst streaming anything but Lost Ark itself
No but for real lol
royal summit
i mean it's a business decision at the end of the day
swift tree
Yeah stoopz streams more other things now than Lost Ark
"Now Streaming Lost Ark" (it's a booba visual nobel)
royal summit
why should i sell this piece of garbage 20 times a month if i can sell this other garbage 200 times
past ginkgo
Most people saw Lost Ark not making them bread so they ditched, it makes sense
royal summit
what a reasonable discussion we're having today here
fresh flint
It could have if the dive off at the beginning of release wasn’t so drastic
royal summit
what happened
swift tree
can make more $ streaming OSRS whilst on the toilet
past ginkgo
what a reasonable discussion we're having today here
I don't know... Zeals rage mode yesterday, Memo quitting guide making... idk kinda a wakeup call
fresh flint
If we retained a fraction of the players at release and post Brel v1 streamers would probs be doing way better for loa
fresh flint
I don't know... Zeals rage mode yesterday, Memo quitting guide making... idk kin...
Memos quitting guides?
past ginkgo
Oh and I finally realized 6 characters take way too much investment
royal summit
I don't know... Zeals rage mode yesterday, Memo quitting guide making... idk kin...
oh shit he did? no g3 guide then?
subtle cliff
Why
past ginkgo
oh shit he did? no g3 guide then?
Ney he said he will stop now after Act 3
royal summit
subtle cliff
Didn't even take me out to dinner first
past ginkgo
Act 3 guides are all up
fresh flint
Why <:Susge:1065387133990355014>
Oh nvm
swift tree
Ney he said he will stop now after Act 3
Didn't ATK say that then proceed to make guides for 2 more raids?
past ginkgo
Didn't ATK say that then proceed to make guides for 2 more raids?
No ATK quit entirely
He even quit streaming
swift tree
Yeah after a bit
subtle cliff
He quit the game and everything as a whole?
swift tree
ATK quit overall, to focus on main job
past ginkgo
He quit the game and everything as a whole?
Yes
swift tree
just plays casually
past ginkgo
No he actually quit fully
Sold all his accs and gems, gone
But you noticed him being fed up a lot the last months too
fresh flint
Damn loa is actually doomed
swift tree
yeah nvm he's had a full crash out
subtle cliff
I'm only holding out till kazeros but idk if I'll hang on for that long
swift tree
even deleted all his twitch clips
fresh flint
Same tbh
past ginkgo
I won't quit, unless there is really releasing something new in the MMO genre
That drags my full attention
Then I drop in a heartbeat
fresh flint
I’m kinda ready to move on to a different game
swift tree
At least it ain't ue3
downgrades to Open GL
subtle cliff
past ginkgo
Yeah no Chrono Odyssey, I give it a month
fresh flint
subtle cliff
swift tree
yearn for the mines
fresh flint
People pushing these shit games out left and right. They really enjoy wasting money.
past ginkgo
I'm already chilling back on Lost Ark though since return
fresh flint
But it also shows that nobody in game development knows what gamers actually want
past ginkgo
So I can play more OSRS LOL
swift tree
But it also shows that nobody in game development knows what gamers actually wan...
*Nobody that signs off on design decisions actually gives developers the means to create things anymore
fresh flint
*Nobody that signs off on design decisions actually gives developers the means t...
“This company did this let’s add that and hike up the prices. It’ll make us a lot of money”.
swift tree
Making an MMO costs money, and Suits don't want to actually follow feedback
past ginkgo
The problem is, for many people it takes one really bad thing to happen to make them explode
Then you will see the mass exodus
fresh flint
I think concord was the fastest game to implode I’ve ever witnessed so far
swift tree
“This company did this let’s add that and hike up the prices. It’ll make us a lo...
Or they hire people with 0 knowledge for cheap, proceed to make the same mistakes ignoring almost all player feedback and then claim the first year of profits and tank the game
past ginkgo
I noticed it as well, the general mood for Lost Ark is very negative right now
Kinda crazy, it's a lot worse than when I went on break
fathom ore
It's always been negative.
subtle cliff
My static wanting me to quit my job so I can raid on time
twilit ravine
I noticed it as well, the general mood for Lost Ark is very negative right now
bc it is a workplace
twilit ravine
do you ever feels like "oh its monday yay"
subtle cliff
twilit ravine
swift tree
do you ever feels like "oh its monday yay"
Oh its a Thursday, time to Raid
past ginkgo
Me not getting harassed on having a discussion tells you everything...
twilit ravine
in lost ark it is monday every day
swift tree
The whole earning an income by raiding is an absolutely dogshit gameplay loop
past ginkgo
If I did that 6 months ago, people would've jumped on my nuts
twilit ravine
The whole earning an income by raiding is an absolutely dogshit gameplay loop
i am pity-ing, i want to quit
subtle cliff
Me Juggling work, gym, eating/sleeping properly, pursuing side hobbies and raiding on time so we can get first week title...
past ginkgo
Nvm, people jumped on my nuts for pointing out the bad things..
swift tree
It made more sense when Una gold was comparable to abyss dungeon drops, but not that it's not even 1/10th of weekly raid rewards, it's abysmal
twilit ravine
Nvm, people jumped on my nuts for pointing out the bad things..
thats why you keeps ur nuts in ur pants
past ginkgo
A lot of people got their reality checks, that is good to see
swift tree
thats why you keeps ur nuts in ur pants
tempted to say something that would see me timed out
twilit ravine
*tempted to say something that would see me timed out*
hmm kinda mild, but i guess you try to keep it down to not get banned 😄
swift tree
tbh the straw that's kinda broken my back is not getting the fucking North Kurzan food
stupid rng shit like that on TOP of the ridiculous grind/monetisation
swift tree
that's why I was saying, at least add some pity
"We've heard your feedback, here's a $10,000 weapon upgrade" -Smilegate
vocal pollen
burnt tree
Yeah give them to me now
fleet plover
burnt tree
Yeah i got around 2k-ish too
Didn't open them since i don't need em
Yet
Classic whale
I wanna get 1710 but ong
Weap too expensive
Oreha too expensive
lilac frigate
one hone is all it takes
past ginkgo
Or you 1 tap it
And feel like shit because might as well played lottery in real life
And win that
burnt tree
I have all of that but they going in AH 21-40
fleet plover
Buying Orehas in this economy is crazy
past ginkgo
Only 103 gold each
fleet plover
Since T4 release every Orehas that I needed I farmed myself, didn't buy any from the market 😄
fleet plover
I miss the times when buying Lifeskill potions from Mari shop was worth 😦
I had over 100 pots
burnt tree
Same i have like 270 life skill pots xdd
Its a decent amount gold in those pots for me but godamn no
Exhausting
past ginkgo
Mining is so bad right now with competition
I literally went back to do excavating l0l
fleet plover
I like to do logging
past ginkgo
Like the Rimeria spot yesterday, 5 channels
On my average pop server
Because you only gotta run circles
fleet plover
Do you guys think we get the revive system next week with Mordum? 
swift tree
Do you guys think we get the revive system next week with Mordum? <:FeelsGladMan...
doubt
twilit ravine
tbh the straw that's kinda broken my back is not getting the fucking North Kurza...
it is fine ig, the elgacia is killing me
...
past ginkgo
Do you guys think we get the revive system next week with Mordum? <:FeelsGladMan...
Sadly not, the hardcore people hate it, makes raid too EZ
I can't wait for their first complaints
"Why didn't revive work on wipe mech"
Surely will happen on their Brel homework
devout nymph
fleet plover
450 crystals in this economy
past ginkgo
I noticed something, the box of the skill
UNPLAYABLE
Why is it not more centered
My OSRS nitpicking kicked in oh no
past ginkgo
450 crystals in this economy
Is not even 2 ancient accs
35 pheons for those
Cost like 320 BC
fleet plover
35 pheons for those
Good thing that I have 1800 pheons 
royal summit
past ginkgo
Yeah those Kurzans better give me something to cut
fleet plover
wise pasture
you can buy decently usable for 10
burnt tree
30k for something usable and temporary isn't bad ngl
past ginkgo
<:shruge:1100304847183560726> you can buy decently usable for 10
The pheons cost
wise pasture
we get more pheons than you can spend on jewellery in general
past ginkgo
we get more pheons than you can spend on jewellery in general
Hahaha ask my stone RNG
wise pasture
why would you buy stones for pheons i never understood
burnt tree
No
wise pasture
no, you should just send them over from other chars
past ginkgo
Might as well just unequip it
queen grail
2-1 is fine until you can cut 2-2 
It's not tier 3 anymore.
past ginkgo
no, you should just send them over from other chars
You see... that is the skill issue of people with bad RNG
burnt tree
Pattern recognition issue
queen grail
@burnt tree 
170,000- bye bye
wise pasture
You see... that is the skill issue of people with bad RNG
you are telling that to guy which cutted over 6k stones to get 9/7
the average is around 1250 or so
past ginkgo
<:KEKW:834726120606924850> you are telling that to guy which cutted over 6k sto...
200 for Wildsoul to get 9/7
When all I wanted was a 7/7
queen grail
You can't complain then smh.
wise pasture
imagine
past ginkgo
<:Looking:1222262916665839616> You can't complain then smh.
true true
Time to buy some ancient accs
My thingies sold
Nice got somewhat placeholders now that are more decent than my relics
Until I get some high/mids
burnt tree
<@888771554631118849> <:SAD:701055548103196682> 170,000- bye bye
Its ok ull make them back before reset
past ginkgo
100%
With his roster
Inb4 cuts like 3-4 mid/mid with bis options
Boom printing money
queen grail
Its ok ull make them back before reset
queen grail
Inb4 cuts like 3-4 mid/mid with bis options
I'm not a bald weeb from America.
You got the wrong guy.
slender sky
@fresh flint didnt know you had an eu roster aswell bro
past ginkgo
Space Cleave gonna go brrrr with next enlightenment potion
Gonna have 97 points
only missing the 4 karma ones anymore
swift tree
@past ginkgo BOO!
fresh flint
<@196481929057402880> didnt know you had an eu roster aswell bro
Wait that might be my twin
errant fable
<:Looking:1222262916665839616>
slender sky
Wait that might be my twin
thorny olive
Space Cleave gonna go brrrr with next enlightenment potion
Ineri gonna brrr
my Summoner got 3 fates.
thorny olive
Friend got isle of yearning soul lol
queen grail
Friend got isle of yearning soul lol
thorny olive
S-M Chest and 1mil silver <:SAD:701055548103196682>
celest tiger
Friend got isle of yearning soul lol
swift magnet
S-M Chest and 1mil silver <:SAD:701055548103196682>
SM
celest tiger
was hoping they added more map channels to help with yearning soul farm
swift magnet
slender sky
rico the penguin
swift magnet
Sad and medium sad chests <:SAD:701055548103196682>
swift magnet
rico the penguin
thorny olive
peak loom
Was getting ready for act 3 and was just watching act 3 guide. And WTF is wrong with gate 2 so much shit
I mean jesus christ it's like having to study for my finals
thorny olive
Yeah the raid seems like the biggest pile of shit so far
past ginkgo
thorny olive
It kinda makes me not even want to bother lol
thorny olive
Don't forget every 2nd pattern can put infection onto you
Yay, more annoying bullshit no one asked for
past ginkgo
Worst thing is, it's a 3 gate raid again
thorny olive
Yes..
peak loom
Gate 2 will be a jail raid I am telling u
Plus that more than 50% meter time mech where we need to run away with line jesus christ
thorny olive
Yeah I'm not going to remember shit and probably get overwhelming and quit
peak loom
With no battel item gg
thorny olive
peak loom
It's 10% chance to do that mech according to memo
peak loom
So much shit to learn making my brain dumber
thorny olive
Yea, except it's all just a bunch of annoying bullshit clumped together pretending it's a hard raid, when it's just annoying more than anything
thorny olive
I hated to learn Thaemine back in the day
Ew
past ginkgo
I think Gate 3 will be the most annoying actually, people say it's easy
thorny olive
Thaemine is a gross raid
past ginkgo
Until you gonna prog x600 bars and 1-2 person dead means a reset
thorny olive
past ginkgo
This will drain people, 100%
past ginkgo
Would be more chill with revives but oh well...
thorny olive
thorny olive
wintry depot
i mean nm will have all frontier nerfs
past ginkgo
I'm gonna have fun watching no dooms from me
wintry depot
i dont think it will be hard
thorny olive
i dont think it will be hard
wintry depot
hm will be a diff story for sure
wintry depot
na we will get it nerfed
past ginkgo
slender sky
I'm gonna have fun watching no dooms from me
if this is your normal form you must be hella miserable lmao
slender sky
people will always complain anyway
every raid, ever
wintry depot
yep
past ginkgo
Statics will clear day 1 anyways easy
thorny olive
every raid, ever
past ginkgo
They have guides and cheat sheet
past ginkgo
Oh I remember something else...
wintry depot
depending how many hours they prog
past ginkgo
"THIS RAID WILL BE EASY"
thorny olive
Nah, people struggled a lot with thaemine g3 hm, this raid is X10 worse
tight quartz
i queued ffor cube and it instapopped, i thought i just lucked out with new players then remembered theres bots in this game 😭
past ginkgo
Those ignorant sweaty statics on the top gonna get their reality check
wintry depot
g4 was way slower
past ginkgo
Sit the fuck down
slender sky
i queued ffor cube and it instapopped, i thought i just lucked out with new play...
if anything they just came back
there havent been bots in cubes for 1-2 weeks now
tight quartz
i imagine its easier to just run it solo than with 3 sorc bots 😭 ?
wintry depot
yes
thorny olive
thae hm was cleared pretty fast
Not for pugs anyway
past ginkgo
i imagine its easier to just run it solo than with 3 sorc bots 😭 ?
Bingo
tight quartz
but what if they do their doomsday rotation 
wintry depot
shoulda scrolled up, some bizarre EoS fantasies again from some regulars <:KEKW:...
im lazy to read doomers ngl
slender sky
i imagine its easier to just run it solo than with 3 sorc bots 😭 ?
yes, if you just let them do their thing they prob need 20+ mins on their own
past ginkgo
i imagine its easier to just run it solo than with 3 sorc bots 😭 ?
I presume it's 1580 cubes?
Can also just send tickets on dischart
tight quartz
i think its called 4th forbiddence
past ginkgo
If you can't be bothered to do
thorny olive
shoulda scrolled up, some bizarre EoS fantasies again from some regulars <:KEKW:...
EoS fantasies?! Where
past ginkgo
tight quartz
whats dischart
slender sky
EoS fantasies?! Where
just scroll up a couple hours
past ginkgo
You can use tickets, send them out, they return with loot
thorny olive
just scroll up a couple hours
slender sky
<a:artistShy:1253819853102518393>
channel been filled with diarrhea all morning/afternoon
past ginkgo
aight time to pack it up
tight quartz
also is crit damage better than weapon power on accessory?
past ginkgo
AGS employee on the mad trip again
tight quartz
im not at the point of min maxing im just trying to use smth decent
slender sky
https://tenor.com/view/tom-senya-gif-26024901
fitting gif for some1 that claimed to have cashed out on the game and came back a mere 3 months later
wintry depot
also is crit damage better than weapon power on accessory?
youre t3 right ? dont bother with good accessories, you dont need them and you will replace them in t4 anyway
tight quartz
yea im t3
past ginkgo
slender sky
Bro all I see from you is trying to trigger people like a child
no just the imbeciles
tight quartz
when does t4 start 1640?
past ginkgo
Coming from an imcebile...
wintry depot
when does t4 start 1640?
yes
past ginkgo
go figure
wintry depot
but 1620 = 1640
tight quartz
so +19 akkan basically?
wintry depot
so +19 akkan basically?
yes
tight quartz
and once i hit t4 do i get to meet other humans or not yet 
past ginkgo
but bruh beware someone says something you don't like, you turn into a diva?
slender sky
damn you feel very attacked, felt kinda caught about some earlier comments huh?
past ginkgo
Realized this?
thorny olive
Bet he'd say something like "They're catering to casual babies now, so Im, not b...
xDD
wintry depot
and once i hit t4 do i get to meet other humans or not yet <:KEK:795707339483119...
yes
tight quartz
jippee
past ginkgo
damn you feel very attacked, felt kinda caught about some earlier comments huh? ...
See you proved my point thanks.
wintry depot
but gl getting accepted by people
tight quartz
slender sky
See you proved my point thanks.
tight quartz
if i tell them i spent 8 hours doing akkan g3 do u think it will increase my reputation for being strong willed and never giving up 
wintry depot
well
thorny olive
damn you feel very attacked, felt kinda caught about some earlier comments huh? ...
tsk tsk tsk, Tommy out poking at people again
wintry depot
people dont like new players typically
past ginkgo
wintry depot
sadly
tight quartz
heartless
wintry depot
unless you find a welcoming guild
slender sky
tsk tsk tsk, Tommy out poking at people again
nah that dude is just a moron, it is what it is
wintry depot
for them, you are
tight quartz
i got 1.6k hrs
thorny olive
past ginkgo
can you just block each other tyty
Already done no point conversating with this dude
End of discussion
tight quartz
i mean maybe i can try and work my way up from the mokoko servers and such
subtle cliff
Fuck you new player kick dust
wintry depot
and the mokoko bootcamp isnt available rn
slender sky
can you just block each other tyty
hell surely "cash out" again soon no worries
wintry depot
well just hope that we get the mokoko bootcamp event again soon
thorny olive
Huh
slender sky
well just hope that we get the mokoko bootcamp event again soon
probably next month
tight quartz
its ok i think majority of the time i spent initially playing was solo too since this game always had gatekeeping
wintry depot
yeah prob
tight quartz
and i wasnt willing to play it grindy (still not)
wintry depot
or max with female pala
slender sky
or max with female pala
thats wayyyy too long
tight quartz
solo raids r fun tho
wintry depot
thats wayyyy too long <:deadge:1046748734807093330>
it is
slender sky
that shit should be down max a week ideally
wintry depot
lost ark players hate new players more than non-lost ark players
well, if they remove wipe mechs from every older raids, i think people wont mind new players that much
analog path
tight quartz
people will still mind at least from my experience in the past
wintry depot
like aegir nm is pretty much perfect on that
thorny olive
lost ark players hate new players more than non-lost ark players
I like new players, but every new player I ever help turns out to be an alt roster funneling gold to their main
tight quartz
it wasnt always a matter of wiping but ppl just want to do all the raids on all their characters as fast as possible
wintry depot
oh yeah for sure
analog path
it's not like shooter game where you actually lose if you have shit teammate
usually 2 shitters is still carryable here
wintry depot
but its fuckign shitty to get wiped by someone
wintry depot
depends the raid
tight quartz
yea i mean in this game it feels 10x worse
past ginkgo
it's not like shooter game where you actually lose if you have shit teammate
usu...
Welcome to my daily FPS games
tight quartz
because u have to do the raid again on multiple chracters
which is why ppl hate wipes so much, it adds up
thorny olive
it's not like shooter game where you actually lose if you have shit teammate
usu...
Until they wipe the raid 3 times in aegir g1 because they can't do the schyte, horn, heart, balls crap mechanic
tight quartz
compared to others where u'd only do the raid once or so
thorny olive
XDD
slender sky
well, if they remove wipe mechs from every older raids, i think people wont mind...
thats what i always hated about the raids here
way too gimmicky
thorny olive
Wipe mechs are such a waste of time, just let me play
slender sky
there should be a mode where they legitimately punch your face in and tank a lot, where you actually gotta make use of heals etc
analog path
yeah i mean, if they do mech
i don't know how much damage you guys do now so basically i'm talking about the 900k dps glaivier shitter in your brel normal lobby
if you don't wipe, it not like dmg check gonna make you lose if you can carry
slender sky
with revives, where you fight the enrage timer essentially
tight quartz
yea im suprised with all the gatekeeping and toxicity they didnt make it so that 1-2 people failing mechanics dont insta wipe the raid
analog path
i remember i watched luxinder play like blade or something
there was this DOGSHIT glaivier talking hella shit and they did actual zdps
slender sky
yea im suprised with all the gatekeeping and toxicity they didnt make it so that...
elitist kr mindset
thorny olive
yeah i mean, if they do mech
i don't know how much damage you guys do now so bas...
That's ok
tight quartz
i mean kr mindset is reason why they lots so many players in eu
kr think playing a game like its a job is essential for fun 😭
thorny olive
I don't mind bottom DPS if the raid has damage
analog path
yeah you can usually handle 2 shittiers if you have 1-2 people who can put in pain
thorny olive
Ya
slender sky
kr think playing a game like its a job is essential for fun 😭
its not even that, they consider everything an investment, they are super against making old stuff easier, so their work doesnt get invalidated or ppl get the chance to catch up
tight quartz
floorslinger 🥺
wintry depot
slender sky
they rather play a dead game on their pedestal than having an alive game
thorny olive
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
XD did that too recently, ran out :(
tight quartz
i mean the way lost ark is tho its not even investment
thorny olive
tight quartz
u spend so much money/time just for new patch to be added and u gotta do it again or be left behind
twilit ravine
u spend so much money/time just for new patch to be added and u gotta do it agai...
gold sink after gold sink
thorny olive
i mean the way lost ark is tho its not even investment
KR: MY INVESTMENT
tight quartz
it would make sense if they did it for the fact of staying at the top but it dont work that way in this game
thorny olive
its not even that, they consider everything an investment, they are super agains...
Guys couldn't even let us choose elixirs effects anymore after they nerfed the costs, so now we end up with several dead ones :/
Well that was SG, but still
slender sky
it would make sense if they did it for the fact of staying at the top but it don...
they just cranked up every metric in t4, and no way to measure actual power, that new combat power system cant come soon enough
its so stupid you gotta take your calculator out for every sort of improvement
analog path
huhh
slender sky
"oh this bracelet gives me 0,567% more damage nice"
twilit ravine
and people gatekeep like crazy
slender sky
Guys couldn't even let us choose elixirs effects anymore after they nerfed the c...
those haunt you in your dreams
thorny olive
they just cranked up every metric in t4, and no way to measure actual power, tha...
Yes give me direct power indicators.. I don't wanna figure out how to launch a rocket with maths, I just want to know how much worse or better stuff is :(
slender sky
Yes give me direct power indicators.. I don't wanna figure out how to launch a r...
yea, lets see how good their implementation of it will be
thorny olive
those haunt you in your dreams
😭
analog path
so you have to do spreadsheet maths now if you want to minmax?
twilit ravine
so you have to do spreadsheet maths now if you want to minmax?
and test everything out 😄
analog path
back then it was get 1800 spec, 100 wep, engravings, gems, and the problem was bracelet
thorny olive
Yes.. it's also dependant on your current stuff too.. like how much outgoing vs crit damage you have to calculate if additional is better, etc
analog path
how kind of smilegate to teach lost ark players how to do math for free
slender sky
im stoopid
lunar hedge
Nice gold una
slender sky
forgot you cant insta complete new unas
lunar hedge
slender sky
slender sky
ye
rimeria una turned today
i just accepted them all mindlessly on a non rimeria char
to complete
rocky plume
@summer yew
tight quartz
is it normal for my 1568 gunslinger to do more dmg than my 1596 arcana 
(the arcana has +19 gloves shoulder)
uncut dirge
Yes, GS op and arcana hard to play
tight quartz
idkwhy my dps is so abysmal dogshit on her 😭
slender sky
the problem is probably in the fingers
tight quartz
i mean i been playing arcana for like a few days
uncut dirge
Because she's hard to play and you need to git gud
tight quartz
and gs i have like 1k hours on so that might be a slight reason
lunar hedge
No fingers on an easy class vs no fingers on a sweaty class is a huge gap
tight quartz
is gs considered easy class now?
i remember before it was seen as one of the harder classes
tight quartz
i think cuz peacemaker was harder in comparison to ttk which was what was spammed on kr? at least from what i remember
uncut dirge
Weapon swapping really isn't that difficult
tight quartz
animation locks were the problem
uncut dirge
Just sucks when your ping is high
tight quartz
since if u got hit it usually cancelled abilities and u had a lot of animation locks
uncut dirge
I guess that's true
analog path
easy in concept hard in play
wintry depot
^
tight quartz
the class is easy if u played a boss fight 100x and know all his patterns i guess
but thats probably not smth ppl would use to determine how easy a class is
wintry depot
thats for every class tho
analog path
tight quartz
cuz if u know the patterns then animation lock isnt rly a problem
tight quartz
i think i just need to play arcana for at least a month so i can understand the class better
wintry depot
arcana is just too rng anyway
tight quartz
i played her for like 3 days and only just realised judgement lets me do dmg without full stacks
analog path
emperor
thorny olive
Weapon swapping really isn't that difficult
It's not really about the weapon swapping, it's getting all skills off asap while keeping track of cooldowns of each stance, and not have downtime at all, or you do negative damage on the class
tight quartz
It's not really about the weapon swapping, it's getting all skills off asap whil...
the class feels really smooth tho once u know ur rotation since all the cooldowns align usually
thorny olive
the class feels really smooth tho once u know ur rotation since all the cooldown...
Yeah, once you learn it it's fine
rocky plume
slender sky
i played her for like 3 days and only just realised judgement lets me do dmg wit...
arcana is arguably one of the hardest classes in the game to truly figure out
wintry depot
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
thats not an excuse tho, you can swipe in the shop and still rmt like an animal XD
thorny olive
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
Bruh
summer yew
<@192696117367013376>
Im not paying 9m for this shiet
rocky plume
thats not an excuse tho, you can swipe in the shop and still rmt like an animal ...
he is a delulu player
queen grail
I decided to flip the ring I bought and cut so I could buy 2 H ring's for the same price @burnt tree 
tight quartz
oh yea someone told me yesterday to do some rimura una or smth
queen grail
Since the critrate is kinda whatever and this way I can get 2 rings for 1 and save up for H/M - H/H upgrades
wintry depot
oh yea someone told me yesterday to do some rimura una or smth
u cant access rimeria if youre not 1640
queen grail
That was the ring I snagged for 150k and cut Low CritRate @burnt tree 
The funny part is that It's not tradable after this sale.
burnt tree
thorny olive
maybe they meant when i unlock it then
queen grail
uncut dirge
It's not really about the weapon swapping, it's getting all skills off asap whil...
But that's like every class
analog path
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
bro is soloing keeping the servers alive
queen grail
Snagged this for 170k
wintry depot
cough cough fmh and spec ws
analog path
what a goat
tight quartz
also gs hp was always an issue in early game
uncut dirge
Of course but that's mostly from things like animation locks
rocky plume
bro is soloing keeping the servers alive
not even close
analog path
less hp than base bard
wintry depot
yeah gs has low def
uncut dirge
I forget
analog path
shit bruh that low hp, and with grudge
uncut dirge
Has anyone looked at what FMH is on defense thing
thorny olive
same with reaper
Assassins in general
uncut dirge
When you have 3 stacks of the defense reduction thing
wintry depot
na sh and db are tankier than reaper
queen grail
Snagged this for 150,000, high main-stats 
wintry depot
not that much more
tight quartz
i was looking up supports and i read that artist got buff and feels better than bard currently, how true is this?
analog path
coefficient
thorny olive
na sh and db are tankier than reaper
Sh has extra hp from form, so ye, dunno about DB
analog path
or just .1
wintry depot
im not talking about demon form
uncut dirge
Also was it 3% more damage taken per stack or 4%?
rocky plume
weird is that he gatekeep behe
uncut dirge
Cause man I'm sometimes caught out by it on brel
queen grail
@wintry depot @thorny olive @burnt tree Pray for me. Tim to cut the item 
uncut dirge
Where I get hit for a lot more than I expect
thorny olive
im talking about base coefficient
Does it though?
wintry depot
yes
analog path
yeah
queen grail
uncut dirge
Grats
analog path
yeah def not hp sorry
uncut dirge
Time to sell
analog path
never really had that issue on blade now that i think about it
blade's just more surviveable 
queen grail
Market has been like 200k+ on these items for the past week @uncut dirge And this one had high main-stats even at Quality80+
wintry depot
db is 1.00, reaper gs de are 0.90
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RUYogEBRe5aLNYngPYWonlv3020KA5IkH5r1w95Fgqk/edit?gid=0#gid=0
thorny olive
queen grail
Come on! One time WepPower%
fleet plover
no
queen grail
no hit.
wintry depot
shouldve sold with the high atk power
thorny olive
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RUYogEBRe5aLNYngPYWonlv3020KA5IkH5r1w95F...
LOL why is reaper bullied
analog path
blade +.1
surreal gyro
aaa such a good OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGJ7PhOoUaY
wintry depot
ah
queen grail
It was cheap, 150k
wintry depot
i see
queen grail
Normal market is like 200+ right now.
wintry depot
forgot youre a whale
queen grail
forgot youre a whale
How Is it WHALE to go for only single H? 
wintry depot
whaaaaaaaaaale
queen grail
Before you say anything, this is how much 3 cost cut, and I got single cut for same price @wintry depot
queen grail
past ginkgo
@surreal gyro Honestly, did you get the Super Ark Pass?
queen grail
Acc's starting to look a bit better Need 1 more CritDmg Ring and better neck.
past ginkgo
The OST inside that is amazing
wintry depot
why that chart looks wrong arna
how does it look wrong ?
past ginkgo
Brel OSTs hit different
wintry depot
its a old chart
uncut dirge
Reaper 0.9
Sh/se 0.95
Db 1.0
FMH SE has a self-inflicted debuff that increases damage taken by 3% and stacks 4 times
uncut dirge
If that maxes out SE is less tanky I think
But that's why they always run purify rune
wintry depot
i wasnt watching that
stark sky
the grudge calculation is also wrong
stark sky
at least the coefficients are there
slender sky
mocha is the lost ark professor
stark sky
i read u
lunar hedge
WHAT DID YOU SAY ARNA
stark sky
i just wanted to make a calculator
for ehp
but each class has its own base hp which is shown nowhere in the game
wintry depot
yea
queen grail
Arna is a dumbdumb
wintry depot
there was this old one aswell
queen grail
wintry depot
i dont remember when was the patch they made some classes a bit tankier
analog path
yeah but are the defense coefficients still correct
wintry depot
thats what i was wondering
wintry depot
how can i check?
analog path
reverse engineer everything
stark sky
theres no updated database
analog path
lmfao
wintry depot
ah
stark sky
but you can go in game
wintry depot
XD
stark sky
detailed tab
slender sky
oh man the good old times zerker with those cards
wintry depot
def is okay on artist
analog path
remember 4sp wardancer with that one card deck
past salmon
mayhem used to be 65% dmg reduction only, but its been changed
wintry depot
i need to wait field boss to check my other classes gg
stark sky
lljustice is onto something
wintry depot
his way of talking always makes me laugh ngl
slender sky
i need to wait field boss to check my other classes gg
enjoy your relic shield piercing
analog path
smart
wintry depot
gs .95
surreal gyro
<@256707136275480576> Honestly, did you get the Super Ark Pass?
u mean the battle pass? yes got the max lvl one
analog path
gs buff?
analog path
wow you found a machinist
uncut dirge
you were supposed to wait for field boss arna
now you're gonna be stuck in channel 537
uncut dirge
oh, you're spying on random people
uncut dirge
voyeur
analog path
buff
wintry depot
sh 1.00 slight buff
uncut dirge
SE better be at least 1.05
wintry depot
na se is 1.00
wintry depot
just dont get hit