lost-ark-discussions

[uncut dirge]

you're asking me to do 7 hours of logging

[past ginkgo]

One guy was #6 of the world lmfao

[uncut dirge]

||and i have same amount on other roster||

[burnt tree]

ah yes Invest like koreans, thats why loa sucks dck

[wicked blade]

You just buy account and gg

Printing money again

[thorny olive]

My biggest RNG luck:
1xSidereal energy drop
2x200k gold ember drop
2x200k mokoko gold event drop

Everything else average to garbage

[uncut dirge]

no, they wanna play an idle game instead

[past ginkgo]

Jagex bans account buyers as soon as they get proof

[uncut dirge]

think about it

[burnt tree]

rough times

[devout nymph]

there was a time i bough tmari jobs empty on 2 rosters, which was equivalent to 150 leap potions per week

[uncut dirge]

botting in an MMO = idle game

[devout nymph]

without leap essence

[wicked blade]

This is why you should just play PoE2

[past ginkgo]

They even look at different IPs and shit

[queen grail]

Sideral... Bastard, and grats.

Also, that's bigger ember&moko luck than me

[thorny olive]

Yeah it's why I'm cursed with relic pouches always giving me bullshit

[devout nymph]

life energy is pretty good for binging series ngl

as long as you pick the right one

[uncut dirge]

i know people bot a lot in runescape

[thorny olive]

It all evens out eventually

[uncut dirge]

but i've only ever known one botter in the entire game

idk what it is but i never seem to actually know cheaters

[wicked blade]

My biggest rng luck:
3 x Adrenaline
1 x 200k gold ember
2 x Raid Captain
1 x Grudge
1 x Curse doll

[burnt tree]

ah yes binge watch Tastefully Yours while mining and logging

[wicked blade]

That is it

[uncut dirge]

so whenever i run into them somewhere in a game it feels weird

[past ginkgo]

Finally ffs

Now where is my Brel raid

[thorny olive]

That's really good for your playtime

[devout nymph]

logging sucks for binging

[uncut dirge]

like i remember at some point i got into raiding with a group that openly talked about buying? trading? selling? accounts

[burnt tree]

all of them suck for binging thats why i have so many pots

[wicked blade]

[uncut dirge]

i'm not entirely sure what they specifically did, but they definitely played on accounts that weren't theirs

and i remember just being weirded out about it since i rarely run into that

[thorny olive]

Yeah but sidereal was 500k value at the time and if you sell/sold your 600k accessory, still better

[uncut dirge]

i got a sidereal

[queen grail]

And you complain? You play a 10'th of regular vet's and have the luck of someone who play's as much as baldy.

[uncut dirge]

it was worth 190k at the time

[thorny olive]

It's a shame

[uncut dirge]

then like 6 month slater i got another one!

it was worth... 190k again but i listed it for 300k

[wicked blade]

Ummm ... I need more drops

[queen grail]

And then you have me doing 40 raids / week's for a long time and never got sid.

[uncut dirge]

and it sold for 300k after a few weeks

[queen grail]

See, life is not fair.

[thorny olive]

Supposed to be this big value thing right, atm it's almost worthless

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-just-stfu-office-the-gif-13253346

[past ginkgo]

I got sidereal energy once in T3

[burnt tree]

well its not worth it to play that many to begin with

[thorny olive]

Nice

[wicked blade]

Well, game rewards f2p casual players like myself

[queen grail]

Ye, let me just NOT have fun.

[past ginkgo]

Sold that for 450k

[uncut dirge]

even if it was worth as much as it used to be

[thorny olive]

Same, but on EUW where the value was half of EUC

[queen grail]

MY BAD

[uncut dirge]

we make so much more gold these days

that it's still worth a lot less as a rare drop compared to the past

[burnt tree]

i mean gameplay wise sure, but doing it purely for gold/drops is not worth it

[past ginkgo]

Made it possible to get 5x3+1 setups on EUW

[uncut dirge]

like you cut a mid-mid accessory

[past ginkgo]

Actually godsend RNG

[uncut dirge]

or high-low

[thorny olive]

I managed to sell mine for 540k

[uncut dirge]

and it's as valuable as a sidereal energy

[queen grail]

You can do for both Two things can both be correct.

[burnt tree]

well i dont have that much free time cant relate to it

[thorny olive]

It allowed me to hone to 1580 for akkan hm release

Big boost

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-missed-part-where-thats-my-problem-gif-18535010

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/not-my-policy-andrew-garfield-spiderman-the-amazing-spider-man-gif-19931156

[thorny olive]

And later with also 5x3+1

Since I had finally catched up

[glossy bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936304565886791690/1311041438355558410/peach-goma-pig-pig1.gif

[past ginkgo]

I think I really cut down to 12 raids tbh

[devout nymph]

cant relate

[uncut dirge]

if i dont have any relic books for mordum hm am i screwed?

[devout nymph]

[queen grail]

Fking spent 400k or so on Leap's last night @thorny olive I want to die.

Ingame*

[past ginkgo]

And the other 2 characters just do highest solo raids for some extra bound gold

[wicked blade]

Only whales spend on leaps

[queen grail]

Leap Karma?

[glossy bane]

You do raids however u feel like
A game is suppose to be fun else u just burn out 😉

[thorny olive]

Oh, past 2 weeks I had no gold left from raids because I been doing karma, what's that, 600k?

[uncut dirge]

maybe he's gonna resell em

[past ginkgo]

Exactly what happened 4 months ago

[queen grail]

Look @thorny olive Surely, 2 click, CritDmg H CritH

[past ginkgo]

I won't repeat that mistake again

[devout nymph]

leap 1->21 is like 200k tops, maybe 300k if you pity everything

[wicked blade]

Alt?

[devout nymph]

[queen grail]

[thorny olive]

Surely!

[wicked blade]

I did elightment 1-6 rank and it cost me only 170k

[glossy bane]

Current season is x10 better than t3
U are done super fast with raids compared to the past

[thorny olive]

:(

[past ginkgo]

I only raid on characters I really want to play

[wicked blade]

[devout nymph]

avg is like 150-200k

[past ginkgo]

Rest just does fast solo stuff

[thorny olive]

Avg

[devout nymph]

thats avg includes like 2 pities or something

[thorny olive]

Avg is 200k

[queen grail]

Ofc?

My main hs Lv.25 bro

On all 3

[glossy bane]

Maxing enlightment for max weapon power

[wicked blade]

Not treating alts like alts

[queen grail]

Countdown 3-2-1.

[wicked blade]

Classic Aly

[queen grail]

Or not, why is no one joining

[wicked blade]

Koreans showing how smarter they are

[past ginkgo]

Is what will eventually get you burned out

And then there is no coming back like before

[wicked blade]

Ye

[glossy bane]

Alts should be always alts else u will hate urself
Thats why ppl shouldnt touch karma on alts for a while especially for normal content its not needed at all

[queen grail]

Imagine burning out.

[past ginkgo]

You omega that but it will happen

[wicked blade]

You only play Lost Ark

[past ginkgo]

If not now, in the future

[wicked blade]

So shush

[sharp bluff]

my alts are just future mains when my adhd screams at me

[past ginkgo]

We already had this once in the community.. remember Brel 1-6?

[queen grail]

I'm still waiting for this burnout they keep talking about.

[past ginkgo]

That made lots of people burn out and quit

[burnt tree]

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-weak-wimp-weak-sauce-weak-cant-handle-it-gif-13750035

[wicked blade]

Ye, not all of us play one game

[past ginkgo]

Eventually people even stopped doing 1-6 and only did 1-4

[wicked blade]

And one game only

[queen grail]

I play SLA, TFT, The Bazaar, sometimes I do some quick mini-games + 1-2 Phone games on the side

And when POE2 is changed I'll be Sesonal playing That.

[wicked blade]

Those does not count

SLA is a mobile game

[devout nymph]

On average, it takes approximately 163.33 attempts to go from level 1 to level 21, taking into account both the success rates and the pity system at each level. 163.33 x 1100g=179k gold, or 150-200 if you give a broader span

[queen grail]

Oh, so other games does not count.

[devout nymph]

[queen grail]

You don't even play it so

[glossy bane]

U got less hours than me and i was gone for 4months

[wicked blade]

I did, but it became boring

[queen grail]

If that's true I feel bad for you.

[thorny olive]

My main 6 karma
Main: 25/25/21
Bard: 21/15/21
WD: 0/21/21
Slayer: 0/21/20
SE: 0/21/0
SH: 0/21/0

[queen grail]

Because then you average 18+ hours.

[glossy bane]

I hear that on a daily base from my friends

Dw

[past ginkgo]

That is nuts...

[queen grail]

[glossy bane]

[past ginkgo]

And that's for one tree right

[queen grail]

You know, sun is also something you neeed at times

Or at least take D vitamins so you don't end up like me in Deficit

[glossy bane]

I get the sun everyday i go to work!

[thorny olive]

I see

[queen grail]

Look at this stinky SE

[queen grail]

[wicked blade]

Yikes, SE player

[devout nymph]

thats for oen tree, past 21 is erm

[queen grail]

To be fair, eveyone in Norway lacks D vitamins

[devout nymph]

neglectable gains

[queen grail]

Long ass winters

[devout nymph]

very likely you get gains somewhere else easier

[wicked blade]

I shall not make the joke

[glossy bane]

Only my main got karma max accessories etc
My alts got no karma and dogshit stuff xD

[wicked blade]

[devout nymph]

then again im prob talkign to people who have liek karma 30 but mid acc

not the first time

[uncut dirge]

diamonds are temporary

karma is forever

[queen grail]

It's not a joke because of winter most ppl lack dvitamins

[meager hill]

https://tenor.com/view/wooosh-dumb-gif-18787851

[wicked blade]

No, I said I won't make the joke about vitamin D....

[uncut dirge]

aly, i can help you with some vitamin D

[thorny olive]

Main has mid/high accessories
Bard has Mid, Mid, low, Mid/Mid, H/L
The rest is mix of mids and lows, maybe one high here and there

[uncut dirge]

[zealous lintel]

how much damage increase are the gains tho?

[wicked blade]

This

Yeah

[devout nymph]

depends on tree

[wicked blade]

[zealous lintel]

i opened 21 karma on main on all trees

but not further

[meager hill]

[devout nymph]

you gain 0.9% wp from enlgithment

[gusty fulcrum]

leap level 1 for life

[thorny olive]

That's good enough, no worry

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-dwight-joke-jim-identity-theft-gif-14240042

[zealous lintel]

0,9% for all steps?

or per step

[devout nymph]

0.1% per step for enlightment

[zealous lintel]

LOL

[uncut dirge]

21 -> 30 is 0.9%

[zealous lintel]

the hell i am going to

[wicked blade]

Time to rename myself to Alysandra and change my username to alyana.2

[uncut dirge]

well think about it

[wicked blade]

[zealous lintel]

gonna wait until they nerf it

[uncut dirge]

high-nothing accessory is like 120k

[broken lava]

not got above like 25 karma

[uncut dirge]

high-low accessory is like 300k

[past ginkgo]

You don't need any further, it's just min-max at that point

[uncut dirge]

and that low part of earring is 0.8% weapon power

[zealous lintel]

better buy accesoires for that money

[queen grail]

It's raining @wicked blade I can smell it.

[thorny olive]

If you want to upgrade your karma further on main without spending too much, I'd say
21/23/21 is most value

[zealous lintel]

0,9% weapon power increase

eh to

wheezing

[past ginkgo]

Exactly more value

Stop at 21

[wicked blade]

I had rains for last 10 days

[past ginkgo]

That is what a friend also told me

[devout nymph]

for dps, thats like a 0.45% increase

[zealous lintel]

[queen grail]

[zealous lintel]

i cant

[devout nymph]

roughly half the vlaue more or less

[uncut dirge]

it's the other way around once you're at high-low or mid-mid range

[past ginkgo]

Yeah 0.45% for that cost is like throwing gold out of the window

[zealous lintel]

people do be spending on karma and cheaping out on access

wdym

see it all the time

[devout nymph]

thats also roughyl the diff between

[uncut dirge]

yeah, but it makes sense to do it that way

[devout nymph]

los30+lwc30 on mordum g3

[uncut dirge]

karma's gonna cost the same even if they do it later

accessories are gonna be cheaper

[zealous lintel]

na

[thorny olive]

Btw, anyone who wonders
Evo above 21 = HP
Enligt above 21 = weapon power
Leap above 21 = hyper awake dmg

[devout nymph]

vs EarthDps24+oldEarth30

[zealous lintel]

they will nerf it down the line

[uncut dirge]

oh, they absolutely will

[thorny olive]

So the only real value is enligt

[past ginkgo]

Karma surely will get nerfs in the future

[zealous lintel]

a good ass accessoires will retain its value for a long time

[devout nymph]

so paying 10k+ for random leg

[wise pasture]

what is the average 1 to 25?

[uncut dirge]

but the price of like mid-mid and high-low accessories has dropped A LOT over the past 3-4 months

[past ginkgo]

Either it's higher chance progression or cost reductions

[zealous lintel]

yeah but thats not the best you can get

[burnt tree]

it will drop even more with NM players having a raid that drops ancient accs

[uncut dirge]

yeah, but the best are way out of reach anyway

[zealous lintel]

just the costs of the three tree min max steps is more than a high mid accesoires

[glossy bane]

I couldnt care to less as alt especially since they all artist alts which share my gems
No one even checks accessories or bracelet tbh they see gems and go insta accept xD

[zealous lintel]

[uncut dirge]

err

[thorny olive]

Even high mid isn't as high as it's been

[burnt tree]

the best are out of reach even for whales

[uncut dirge]

one high mid accessory

[devout nymph]

213.1 attempts

[uncut dirge]

one high mid accessory costs like

full karma all 3 trees

[devout nymph]

basically 50attempts to get 4 extra levels

[zealous lintel]

i saw a ring yesterday for 750k. how much is karma on average

[past ginkgo]

I can say one thing though... Lost Ark will be the last MMO I have ever started new

[devout nymph]

also not ethats average

you can end up pitying

[past ginkgo]

I won't start another MMO

[queen grail]

About 150-200k I'd say to lv.6

[thorny olive]

Oh yeah, you're fine, most of my stuff is either donated down or self cut, I don't buy anything for them specifically

[zealous lintel]

for all trees?

• min maxing?

[meager hill]

all trees

the jokes on this guy

[zealous lintel]

thats what i am told here

[meager hill]

it's 150-200k per tree

[zealous lintel]

yeah

figured

so

[queen grail]

Per

[uncut dirge]

mid-mid to high-mid is like 1.2% weapon power

[zealous lintel]

karma is more expensive

to 6

than a high mid one

[uncut dirge]

meanwhile

[queen grail]

@wicked blade

[uncut dirge]

enlightenment to 21 is like 200k

and gives you 2% weapon power

[devout nymph]

and since everyone loves numbers

[thorny olive]

Mid high is probably highest value for sups since you're giving 3 people a boost

[devout nymph]

the attempts it takes from 1-30 is 992.53 attempts on avg

[meager hill]

ok but you need 4 more accessories, and karma is a permanent progression system

[zealous lintel]

thats not how this works tho

[queen grail]

Don't go for 30

[zealous lintel]

you dont buy a high mid or a mid mid to upgrade it

[queen grail]

Even 25 is a bit sketchy.

[zealous lintel]

you start of with your cheaped out one

and go from there

🙂

[devout nymph]

so around 780 attempts to get 25->30

[zealous lintel]

like one damage low line

[uncut dirge]

i don't understand what you're trying to say here

[zealous lintel]

vs high mid

[devout nymph]

if you ahve that many karma stones and dont pity

[uncut dirge]

yeah, that's the point

anything past mid-mid becomes so cost ineffective

compared to karma

[devout nymph]

29 is 0.2%, which pities at 1250 attempts

its like +25 weapon enjoyers, you either have the lucky people or the pity enjoyers

rarely anyhting inbetween

[uncut dirge]

even mid-mid is questionable compared to getting all trees to level 21

[zealous lintel]

eh anything above 25 is questionable

[devout nymph]

its nto neglectable, jsut not every cost efficient

[zealous lintel]

better buy a full set of mid-mids

[thorny olive]

Yeah, it's awful, I got lucky on the arguably useless one Evo (am sup, I like my chonk) it was only few taps, but for 25 enlightenment she spent idk 80k? instead because fuck me

[broken lava]

getting 10 gems would prolly be even more worth

[devout nymph]

21-30 on leap tree is 4.5% T damage

[zealous lintel]

dunno

the main damage comes from the spell itself

unless you dont run a one gem class

[devout nymph]

i would imagine ssome empress people licking their lips over such increase

[thorny olive]

It says hyper awakening, not technique, so shouldn't work for T skill?

[broken lava]

it doesn't work for T skill

[thorny olive]

Thought so

[devout nymph]

how i misread then

i never considered upgrading leap past 21 before

[broken lava]

if it would work for it than it would actually be something nice

[thorny olive]

That's why I said earlier that it's not really necessary if u wanna save gold, cuz who cares about hyper awake dmg

[broken lava]

not that awakening dmg isn't bad too

[devout nymph]

as long as you dont ugprade evo tree

the pinnacle of rich

[thorny olive]

Evo was cheap for me luckily, am sup so I wanted the hp

[broken lava]

like if we hitting 5b 0.5% is something you would maybe feel a little bit

[thorny olive]

Mostly because I had 299k hp.. so I wanted to reach 300k hp

Without any feast or food

[devout nymph]

i have 400k with feast

[zealous lintel]

so leap is just hyper awake? + damage

[thorny olive]

You're fat af

[thorny olive]

Just Hyper awake damage

Enlightenment is weapon power = damage

[zealous lintel]

so i will just upgrade enlightement

[thorny olive]

Yes, go for 23 or 25

[zealous lintel]

evo is just riperino

[thorny olive]

Evo HP, Enl Wpn power %, Leap HA DMG %

[zealous lintel]

and awake damage is half rip as well

[thorny olive]

Just 21/23/21 is enough

Or 25 if u wanna spend some extra

[zealous lintel]

for a spell that gets thrown out once a fight

[thorny olive]

Above is shit value

[zealous lintel]

funny enough, i was debating about min maxing it. good stuff talking about that

[thorny olive]

Go for 25 then

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[queen grail]

[devout nymph]

wtf im only this weak in town

[thorny olive]

Nice, you chonker

[devout nymph]

feast + good food jsut adds that much

[queen grail]

just voldi now

[thorny olive]

Ye

[devout nymph]

also thats why i dont play heavy armor

[thorny olive]

Well, you also have boost in kazeros raids

[devout nymph]

nothign that htis rmeotely that ahrd

[thorny olive]

So all current raids you have extra hp

[devout nymph]

on artist you have like shields on default

and like 70% sketch uptime

[thorny olive]

What's that 15min expiring

[devout nymph]

mp food

i run out of mp with mpfurn and relic mp

[thorny olive]

Isn't that extra hp too

[devout nymph]

its the dirtcheap food

[thorny olive]

Ah ok yeah I use those too, fuck expensive ones

Especially for bard

[devout nymph]

i have the pricier ones still from event

where they gave out stuff

only using it for brel hm once a weak so

[thorny olive]

Relic Max MP?

[burnt tree]

Aish

[devout nymph]

these

[thorny olive]

Dont you use mana recovery on sunwell

And focus on sunsketch

[devout nymph]

no u run 4 qr

increases T uptime

[thorny olive]

I see, what skills?

[devout nymph]

my pala runs 4 qr as well

only my bard cant due obvious reasons

[thorny olive]

Yes..

[past ginkgo]

I run focus on Sunsketch...

And sun well

LOL

[devout nymph]

door well sketch qr, last one is orchid/upward

[thorny olive]

With Max MP you can probably run galewind on sun well

[devout nymph]

i put gale on orchid and qr on upward

[past ginkgo]

My orchid has Galewind i think

[thorny olive]

You love that QR

[devout nymph]

wealth on starry tiger hopper as usual

[thorny olive]

Yeah I prefer comfort too, not crazy like Maru

[devout nymph]

qr reduce T CD, nothing better you can do as support

gale on sketch is w/e since you have pushimmune

[past ginkgo]

I got Wealth on Hopper ofc and tiger

[thorny olive]

That's why I run focus

[devout nymph]

and well has paraimmune

orchid doesnt have paraimmune

[past ginkgo]

And I think Starry I got wealth as well...

[thorny olive]

Yes

Wealth hopper, tiger, starry

[devout nymph]

i mean you can opt for galewind, but realistically it doesnt do anything, might as well run qr

[past ginkgo]

Maybe I replace the purple focus on doors for QR actually good idea...

[swift magnet]

lil shit has new clothes

[devout nymph]

in msot fights you dont oom

[thorny olive]

Yes

[devout nymph]

guardian is just 100% uptime

[zealous lintel]

why she looking like that

[swift magnet]

planning world domination

[thorny olive]

I run leg QR on door

[past ginkgo]

Yeh put that on now too

I never run OOM at all even with MPF

[thorny olive]

[past ginkgo]

But i do have max MP

[zealous lintel]

huh? her eyes tell me that she need to go to the restroom tho

[swift magnet]

[meager hill]

[thorny olive]

Yeah, me too, should be fine with just leg focus on sunsketch, mana recovery on sunwell

[zealous lintel]

its the eyebrows

[devout nymph]

its likely your upward cpm is low then

spamming upward eats all the mp

[swift magnet]

[past ginkgo]

I mean MP Recovery on sun well.. idk for what I would use Ink Shield anyways

I know back in T3, Arcanas complained but that's no longer a thing anyways

[thorny olive]

Remember, Not everyone has relic magick stream or high gems

[devout nymph]

my full 7 no relic ms alt artist runs oom sometimes as well

ltierally depends how hard i utilize upward

[thorny olive]

Because you run 4 QR you dummy

[past ginkgo]

No relic magick stream yet yes

[devout nymph]

but muh T uptime

[thorny olive]

Yeah idk, she has pretty low T cd with leap 3, but yeah ig u want even higher uptime + more skills to spam

[past ginkgo]

doubt I'll buy relic MS anytime soon

Probably gonna do Hit Master first... I run 3 Hit Master classes soon

[devout nymph]

its prob the enxtbest investment after 3 dps lvl8 gems

on support

[past ginkgo]

I would do Grudge but... yeah too expensive

[devout nymph]

migh tbe even arguebly better the moment you ahve full 7s but depends

ms also affects your t uptime after all

[thorny olive]

Magick stream is really good for artist since her cooldowns are really long

[past ginkgo]

Yeah legendary already feels better than not at all

Big fan of it

[devout nymph]

ms feels alot better on pala honestly

since HB CD is buttcheeks

[thorny olive]

Before the class ran magick stream, minimum gem requirement for just sunsketch was level 8 T3 while other sups could just run level 6/7

[queen grail]

Fun

[thorny olive]

Such a difference in cooldowns

[devout nymph]

100% not on pala

pala simply didnt had 100% uptime i believe

[thorny olive]

Oh right

Just bard then

[past ginkgo]

Yeh my Artist had full level 8s in T3

[devout nymph]

bard had on paper the higehst uptime i believe

[thorny olive]

Bard super low cds

[devout nymph]

but SV

[thorny olive]

Yeah, just sadly her mana gen/hit is lower for balancing purposes

[devout nymph]

imagine buffing sunwell radius.. while ignoring SV

[thorny olive]

So she's sweaty and runs out of mana instantly

[past ginkgo]

SV radius oooof...

I hate it

[devout nymph]

i was expecting em to buff both

[thorny olive]

SV/Sunsketch same radius

[past ginkgo]

That was so bad on sun well before buff too

[devout nymph]

well got buffed

[stark sky]

Bard does not have the highest uptime

[devout nymph]

well is bigger than SV nowerdays, pretty sure

[thorny olive]

Well has same AP range, only the mana range is buffed

Unless they recently touched SW, no, they never increased the actual AP range

[devout nymph]

talking about pre magickstream, where pala is def last due HB

[thorny olive]

In what do you mean

[past ginkgo]

Yeh context is about T3 and pre MS

[devout nymph]

baseCD on bard is lower than artist

[past ginkgo]

Now it's a different story

[devout nymph]

not actual parses

HT has 24s and SV also 24s

i beleive artist was 27/26 and 24?

[subtle cliff]

Hmm

Need to figure out how I'm gonna do the next raid with no group

[thorny olive]

28s for Sunsketch if I remember correctly

[thorny olive]

Oh

[devout nymph]

pala 30s, artist 27, bard 24s

[thorny olive]

Also show the sun well tripod, it should say AP range is still smol

[devout nymph]

thus bard had on paper the lowest cdr requirement

doesnt say on SV how big it is

[thorny olive]

Yes bard can technically have very close to 100% HT uptime with relic MS, lvl 10 gems or something

[thorny olive]

10 meters, and the ap buff only applies within those 10 meters, SV might be 8m if not 10m too

I'm not on to look

[devout nymph]

whatever ill post it rq

can delay my mm guardians to login rq

[thorny olive]

Yeah just wanna see if it's different

So we get that out of the way

I will say that sunwell does feel better though

Probably cuz u don't wait 20s to drop a globe

[devout nymph]

SV

[thorny olive]

Show the tripods

[thorny olive]

Looks same to me

[sharp bluff]

im gunna throw ability stones in a glass house wish me luck

reddit has told me if its my alts i get easy 10-10s so

[devout nymph]

check how far low the circle goes to the guide quest marker

[thorny olive]

But just show the range it says xD

On the skill

[devout nymph]

not on SV

SV also has a +40% range buff

[thorny olive]

Oh right, well, ok it might be smaller then, unless the visuals are inaccurate

[thorny olive]

Breh why doesn't it say, lol

But yeah, I see what u guys mean now

[devout nymph]

anyways, im pretty sure its liek 1m or 2 larger

its not alot but still

[thorny olive]

Yeah looks like sunwell is

[devout nymph]

should be jsut liek paladin and wrath

[thorny olive]

Why are they different.. so stupid

[past ginkgo]

Smilegate logic

No hate btw, just the truth xd

[thorny olive]

Ye

[devout nymph]

class identity

[thorny olive]

Make bard harder by removing a meter radius xDD

[devout nymph]

well was small than SV

[thorny olive]

Or well, adding 1m to artist to make her easier

[past ginkgo]

Same reason why Bard needs to run 2 brands while Artist has one and Paladin has one

[devout nymph]

then ppl complained

now its reverse

[burnt tree]

shorely bard wont suck in the summer supp update

[thorny olive]

I thought people complained about the Mana radius

But yeah I see

[past ginkgo]

Bro they should just increase the duration of Sonatina brand

[thorny olive]

I always thought they were just the same xDD

[past ginkgo]

Or harp duration

[devout nymph]

i mean nowerdays brand is good because ident gives 10s

[thorny olive]

If only

[past ginkgo]

Yeah I imagine T3 bard that was so bad

Either you used SS which was nice for brand but less identity gain

[thorny olive]

T3 bard in comparison was awful

[past ginkgo]

Or sonatina, but then worse brand uptime then SS

[devout nymph]

just play

solo SS liek kr bards

[past ginkgo]

And harp was needed pretty much

[thorny olive]

You couldn't use sonatina only, you always had to use harp with it unless you wanted to fuck urself

I mean you still shouldn't anyway

Harp is the way

[devout nymph]

solo SS with qr is the way

[past ginkgo]

Harp and SS worked too I did it on Ivory

But yeah ask my identity gain...

[thorny olive]

Yeah SS or sonatina with harp is fine

[past ginkgo]

Brand was good, Identity wasn't

Sonatina just more generation

[thorny olive]

Imagine rhapsody on top

Meter gen dies

[past ginkgo]

I used SS on Ivory for the stagger things

[devout nymph]

the whoel appeal of SS is to drop the other brand

for staggger/coutner/utlity

[past ginkgo]

SS is really good stagger with golden overwhelm

Was nice for the tight checks

[devout nymph]

SS doesnt feel that bad with leg gale honestly

might be decent with vision nowerdays

[thorny olive]

Yeah you can spam SS for 100% uptime, but it's annoying

[past ginkgo]

Bard's stagger without SS is really criminally low

[devout nymph]

SS should be decent for skorpion

because during cdr you just brand with ident

[thorny olive]

Eh, they buffed SV stagger and it's pretty strong, only need 2 skills in aegir saw stagger now

[past ginkgo]

Yeah I remember on old brel xd

It was so bad haha

[thorny olive]

Oh god

Doing diamonds was stinky

[past ginkgo]

Bard on a stagger there was like hitting with wet noodles

[thorny olive]

Bard even with vph is shit xd

[past ginkgo]

Some people ran SH because of that, but then no rhapsody rip

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[past ginkgo]

Rhapsody on old brel missing? oof

[thorny olive]

I just spammed sound shock back then

[devout nymph]

i was cooking

sonatina/stigma brand

so sweaty

[past ginkgo]

Stigma was nice though

[thorny olive]

Stigma isn't a bad brand, but I rather use stigma balls

[devout nymph]

maybe i fuq around with SS for a while

i wonder if SH beats PoS in metergen during cdr

[thorny olive]

SH means?

[devout nymph]

soundholic

[thorny olive]

Oh right

That skill

[devout nymph]

time to check the metergen doc

[thorny olive]

Soundholic was never really good for meter gen, it was mostly a stagger skill

[thorny olive]

Stigma > all

[devout nymph]

oh wait let me repsot with everything

[thorny olive]

Told u, stigma > all

[devout nymph]

womwom classic winner

[thorny olive]

Well ye, I don't count them because they are base kit

[devout nymph]

and technically speaking march was the big winner but nobody ever used it

[thorny olive]

Yeah march is ignored, maybe u should cook it

[past ginkgo]

312 on Wind Music, but womwom though?

[devout nymph]

womwom>pos>sona>stigma>SH=March

[thorny olive]

It shows wom wom and wom

[devout nymph]

for skorpion animtime/bubble

[pallid tundra]

When is loa on again?

[past ginkgo]

holy shit the difference between womwom and wom lmfao

[thorny olive]

Ye

That's why most people run wom wom when they use Rhapsody

[devout nymph]

wom during prog is going back to stoneage

[past ginkgo]

Yeh rhapsody saves you in most cases anyway

[low nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453408709704548353/1248435855996223538/8t27r2.gif

[past ginkgo]

What do you guys run on GT though

[thorny olive]

Rhapsody AOE is shit

[past ginkgo]

The quick tripod or the aliment block

[devout nymph]

agile, because i only abuse it for pushimmune on demand

[thorny olive]

Block unless echidna

[safe lark]

tl;dr - bard broken

[devout nymph]

barely any dangerous pattern that isnt rhap

[safe lark]

need nerf

[thorny olive]

Supports don't need nerfs

[past ginkgo]

seen bards play GT quick tripod

Less shieldtime but faster cooldowns

[thorny olive]

Yes, quick GT also happens to align perfectly with WoM which allows 100% shield at all times

But running block GT is fine because first half is DR second half is shield

[devout nymph]

you only run agile because you run with wom or want to abuse its pushimmune on demand without burning rhapsody

[thorny olive]

Also less annoying

[thorny olive]

Ya

[devout nymph]

agile otherwise jsut double the anilock for same DR

[past ginkgo]

I personally always used the longer one

[lunar hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/noted-anime-gif-25088894

[past ginkgo]

with the aliment block

[thorny olive]

It's really good, both choices are good

[devout nymph]

i run agile when i drop rhap for stigma in behemoth

[past ginkgo]

But haven't played Bard since T3, the state of it made me bench it

[devout nymph]

[thorny olive]

I just run stigma in everything except brel

[devout nymph]

even in aegir?

plently of suicidal patterns in there

especially those pesky, pesky suicidal DBs

[thorny olive]

Yeah, usually people don't need it anymore

[devout nymph]

is till ahve ppl dying to that

ppl moving intot he cross lasers

eating shotgun triple chainsaw

trying to facetank the puddle in the other dimensions

[thorny olive]

I just have GT and wom shield which is enough

[devout nymph]

oh you run wom nvm then

[past ginkgo]

Oh the puddle, don't you just place it up right

[thorny olive]

Rhapsody doesn't even save people from more than one puddle xD

[past ginkgo]

in that phases

[thorny olive]

So shit

[stark sky]

it does

[past ginkgo]

or we talking about a different puddle

[devout nymph]

it does, pretty sure, i regulairy eat em with 50% dr after all

[past ginkgo]

Never did Aegir HM but I know the NM/HM differences, atleast a few of them

[devout nymph]

since you only get 50%

[thorny olive]

Well, not when they sit in like 3-4 puddles

[devout nymph]

still does

[past ginkgo]

OH THESE PUDDLES

[stark sky]

it does

i sit in them all the time on artist's starry night

which is less potent than rhapsody

[devout nymph]

isnt it the same

50% for both

casters

75% for allies

[stark sky]

i thought rhapsody was 75% for self

[thorny olive]

You can't even sit in it with bard rhapsody or you die

No

You die

[past ginkgo]

I know what puddles you mean... I dodge these LOL

on dps

And on support

[devout nymph]

[past ginkgo]

That shit even hurts on NM

[stark sky]

i just checked yeah its 50% on both

but ya i dont have any problems tanking with 50%

[devout nymph]

just more likely you eat less on bard since you dont stand in the middle

[thorny olive]

Now if it can protect others from several puddles, idk, didn't work the times I tried it except when people were hyper awakening for obvious reasons

[devout nymph]

ppl keep their hyper for last phase nowerdays

skip the perfect guard patterns

[stark sky]

it doesnt even touch their healthbars for your teammates

lol

[devout nymph]

you survive with 50% dr if its just 5 6 puddles

you still have a chance to dei with 7 8 puddles

but thats without HA

[thorny olive]

Idk, Rhapsody also has like a really tiny range so probably missed then

[devout nymph]

i jsut stand in every suicidal shit same as brel g2

watch if my CE procs or not

0 danger for me

[stark sky]

i stand in everything in brel g2 as a dps

lol

i died twice last night in brel g2 on my main

[devout nymph]

the pizza kills supports as well

because hitbox is wonky

[stark sky]

i just assume im gonna get dr'd for greed patterns

and if i die i die

[devout nymph]

well not hte pizza the whatever it is called

[stark sky]

if i dont i dont

(i wasnt dr'd)

[devout nymph]

thats the statement of my DB after the 3rd dangerous pattern in a row

[stark sky]

im overgeared so even medium shields like hopper with no dr would prevent death

[devout nymph]

i beleive it was uhhh

[stark sky]

thats why i just dont care

[thorny olive]

Yeah, martial artist are kinda chonky

[devout nymph]

slow puddles under your foot spawn -> darkness pattern with dots -> perfect guard pattern

ntoe that the first pattern gives brel dmg up stacks

the perfect guard pattern is super wonky if you are still on her BA

glad we have the fronttier system

[thorny olive]

I just spam G instead of press it once for my guards, works better lol

Ofc you still have to time it roughly

But it's more consistent for me at least

Idk, guards don't always work on first press while in certain skills for some reason

Isn't it amazing when brel stacks several patterns and people get one shot before you can even DR

[devout nymph]

guards are giga forgiving if you jsut press g and dont rpess anything else for a while

[burnt tree]

Brel is a mage, but feels like ure trapped in the world of Tekken 8

with them combos

[devout nymph]

if you g and move, then the g window is shorter

at least thats how it feels like

[thorny olive]

Yeah, they work better if you wait and don't press anything before guarding

[devout nymph]

wouldnt be suprising to me

given how standup immunity works in pvp

given how many ppl in pve standup and still get hit because they dont know how to abuse that immunity

[thorny olive]

So much in this game is jank, it's what it is

[devout nymph]

its not jank

you get more immunity if you dont input anything after standup

if you know that exist that is

[thorny olive]

Might be intended, but the game in general is a bit janky

[wise flame]

If I want to start an acc then on which server is it worth? I mean which server has the most players/active guilds

[thorny olive]

Ratik

Or Elpon

[devout nymph]

ratik has more ppl

[wise flame]

ty

[devout nymph]

not like it means alot nowerdays

in fact i prefer an emptier server for skill skilling reasons

[past ginkgo]

Doing lifeskills on Ratik

oof

[thorny olive]

Even on Arcturus there's an Aya in half the channels

[thorny olive]

Would be nice if it showed rosters / region

[devout nymph]

imagine they did a servermaerge

but ortuus that empty

[past ginkgo]

100% Ortuus merges into something soon

We had that topic yesterday

[lofty kite]

for what is this ?

[burnt tree]

for Lucilles Small Chest

[tulip charm]

Not sure either, I just stashed it

[analog path]

whaddup gooners

how's game

been a while

[fleet plover]

https://gyazo.com/7d2497089d579acda3fa23ca1cb6f35e

wtf 😭😭😭😭

they farmin collectibles now

[analog path]

[burnt tree]

always have been

[analog path]

looks like the bots are still up to the same bot shit

[fleet plover]

bro how are they bots with full Aegir pieces?

[analog path]

i don't even have or know what that is

[fleet plover]

they have full aegir set

[analog path]

truly i have fallen off the face of the earth when bots outlevel me

[burnt tree]

multi boxers probably

as in actual players botting

thats why i dont want another Ignite server

[empty sleet]

i feel left out

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-wuthering-waves-kuro-kuro-games-gacha-gif-12154467250984567124

[fleet plover]

wuwa enjoyer

[analog path]

where that bozo code raven

oh he muted

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[past ginkgo]

Wtf did he do this time?

[storm bronze]

@wicked blade

[past ginkgo]

Who did he piss off

[analog path]

idk every time i look at this server once a month he is always muted or someone gets banned

always 1 less person

[storm bronze]

[analog path]

someone said they thought my pfp was a parrot

i almost got mad

[storm bronze]

that's a toucan

[analog path]

[lilac frigate]

gotta love farming collectables

[storm bronze]

free raven

[astral ermine]

farm ones that are worth more, sell them, buy multiple of the ones you need

[analog path]

don't you still farm them all at the same time because they are same loot table

[astral ermine]

for each individual region that's essentially true, but purples from old regions are cheap and the blues are maybe mid price. Last four regions probably have blue/purple/orange all sellable

[lilac frigate]

600-800 gold for a blue one is a lot! (for me)

[analog path]

so basically if you were to farm collectables, you should farm regions that yield the highest priced collectables, sell those, and buy cheaper region collectables

[astral ermine]

drop rates being equal, earn more so you can get more in the end

[analog path]

[astral ermine]

forever be aware Elgacia legendary is most awful one that exists. Voldis and beyond are more fair

[lilac frigate]

you see, but first of all, that would imply I research which is the most profitable one and secondly it means I stay at 1 spawn longer

[astral ermine]

Rethramis has a couple good farm spots, not all continents do. If you get to a bad one you should do a sellable instead

one shot the world boss if it's up too for chances

[lilac frigate]

wait... youre telling me just farming world bosses would do the trick?

[analog path]

higher drop rate iirc

[astral ermine]

it's not guaranteed but they are higher drop rates than the elite icons

[analog path]

surprised i still know this info

[lilac frigate]

I mean, thats an information you are probably likely to remember

[astral ermine]

elites high, longer spawn. Orange outline named are shorter respawns

don't bother with the named monsters for adventure log

those cheap mofos don't even drop potions

[lilac frigate]

do you mean the yellow outlined ones?

or the ones for the adventure log with that logo on top of their head

[astral ermine]

you want the highlighted ones without something above their head.

if they drop potions they usually are good

[lilac frigate]

for rethramis i farmed the yellow outlined ones

took me like 1hour and 40mins

[astral ermine]

but the ones for log completion are effectively worthless beyond ticking off the log

[daring atlas]

and this bot ever fish and wb chaos gate, not banned

[lilac frigate]

they should farm the ones I currently need and sell it for 1g

[analog path]

how is the multi-roster andy situation going

[stark sky]

https://i.imgur.com/VTwIAYt.png

[uncut dirge]

guys somethign weird is happening

[neon cedar]

This is peak gameplay

[uncut dirge]

my chat box is full of green colored chat

[neon cedar]

Guild chat

[lilac frigate]

skill issue, cant happen to me

[tulip charm]

❓

[past ginkgo]

Dude who spams mass restart when one person dies, flames others for DPS when he does dogshit DPS himself

Thank god someone warned me LMFAO

That's the people I don't want to deal with on pugs, they can play with themselves..

Reminds me of Pimpollo...

[analog path]

average lost ark

[past ginkgo]

Legit people like that

Swing their balls online

It's cringe

[ruby hornet]

What's better, +0.95% attack power or +1.80% weapon power? (earring)

[wise pasture]

some of the values depend on other stuff if you have more then others ofc

[ruby hornet]

They're both mid tier for earring that's why i would like to know which one is better because i want a low + mid tier earrings

But would like to know which one escalates better

[analog path]

gee i mean

shit is like the same but there are many factors externally to consider into the damage calculation

[wise pasture]

this is for average scenario, your elixirs matter, your weapon lvl etc

in practice almost no difference on these 2

[analog path]

oh so it's a chart of averages?

[wise pasture]

this was made for average character

[analog path]

gotcha

[tight quartz]

how good is soul eater at stagger?

[midnight marlin]

any class can clear solo

[tight quartz]

oh no i meant in general if its one of the better classes

[wintry depot]

her stagger is fine

not the best, not the worse

[tight quartz]

[paper ruin]

how do you find on lost ark codex the spots for hunting ? or there's no real way ?

[undone orchid]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[past ginkgo]

Oh well who would've thought I do sidereals this good on my 4th Brel run

[paper ruin]

Not that, more like where they spawn in the map

[past ginkgo]

That worked better than I expected

[undone orchid]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[paper ruin]

sad I know this existed for excavating

[undone orchid]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[astral ermine]

many user created maps for excavating don't think the game itself ever listed the spots

[undone orchid]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[paper ruin]

kk thanks'

[wise pasture]

database might have it, it had other stuff from lifeskils

[noble root]

You need to find the name of the element
For example with "Onyx Rabbit", you search for that
https://lostarkcodex.com/us/npc/693001/

if you scroll down a bit you have the map with the locations

[paper ruin]

I tried with Red rabbit but it wasn't showing anything so probably not udpated

will check with the higher rarities one thanks

[lilac frigate]

always the blue drops

[fleet plover]

New pack?

[wintry depot]

i mena yeah

its written on it

may 26 2025

[fleet plover]

[meager hill]

for only 58.99, what a steal

[devout nymph]

wtf

i didnt know these existed

[fleet plover]

these are old

[storm bronze]

stinky cheese is so good

[devout nymph]

i still didnt knew these existed

thought only this existed

[rocky plume]

one time purchase

[meager hill]

they were shown in-game too when they were up

[astral ermine]

I believe they were the holiday snafu, AGS sold the $100 royal crystal packs with extra bonus then ended the day they introduced new packs to spend royal crystals on.

would have earned so much more money if they left them up

[devout nymph]

i was on vacation for 3months so i never noticed

[meager hill]

that's what you get for quitting lost ark for 3 months

[devout nymph]

wtf

[storm bronze]

it's joever bro

mid diff

[devout nymph]

i mean i missed the drama that was brel release

3 days of prog content

[astral ermine]

wait why would they put an excavating node all the way there. Game doesn't let us put a memo in that spot wth. Nukman by the lake, the path to get the mushroom buff

[gusty fulcrum]

cheeky senpai

[swift lava]

lol

[swift lava]

where do u even see that

not on steam for me

oh nvm i see it now

it's under new releases tho

[granite monolith]

does it have the new cube tickets

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[fleet plover]

Most likely since it's cube ticket selector.

[tulip charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4yk7fS-oCM&ab_channel=Deathboi523

support your local lost ark guide makers

[rocky plume]

no

cheapo blade

[wise pasture]

bruh, what is that elixir on him

even i wouldnt wear that

[devout nymph]

trixion elixir

[astral ermine]

loves that solo content

[devout nymph]

its so good for parsing trixion

[wise pasture]

true lol

[lilac frigate]

why am i still farming and not just buying the last one? why cant I be normal for once

[storm bronze]

[devout nymph]

jsut buy em and do lifeskilling to fiance em

[wise pasture]

it is in fact better to farm rimeria, sell what you drop and buy that

[storm bronze]

get that yoz batter

[lilac frigate]

that I actually cant do

[wise pasture]

damn, yorn books still crazy in price lol

[lilac frigate]

cant these goddamn bots do their damned work for once

[wintry depot]

well bots farm recent regions

not really old ones

[lilac frigate]

oh hey, i got it

[lilac frigate]

I mean seriously, what do we pay them for???

[storm bronze]

[rocky plume]

cant find a brel hm bus

[wise pasture]

just run it, not like it is that hard

[rocky plume]

no

[lilac frigate]

well, it is a hard mode after all

[rocky plume]

main want aegir and brel bus

[wise pasture]

well, if even Im able to do it. Everybody can

[lilac frigate]

you underestimate my incompedence

[fresh flint]

Vora just likes to spend money. Can’t help he has no hands

[wise pasture]

I dont think you can beat some specimens I saw over my lost ark time

[lilac frigate]

that sounds like a challenge

I will have you know that my clown team had to make me mario 1 back in the day

[rocky plume]

but i cant do raids + playing a other game

[wise pasture]

I tried it once on guardian, randomly slapping my face against keyboard did better than some of them

[storm bronze]

it was me

[dull obsidian]

?

Vora the trillionaire buying busses?

[rocky plume]

this week yes

[dull obsidian]

[rocky plume]

FF>raiding

[dull obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1239107745840365608/7RYT7D9.gif

[rocky plume]

https://tenor.com/view/dolphin-griddy-dolphin-hitting-the-griddy-dolphin-doing-the-griddy-dolphin-griddy-gif-26074463

[queen grail]

The guy who made this cooking might actually be a psychopath

[rocky plume]

ty

[dull obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/743609572169613355/1359485146398724216/IMG_6803.gif

[storm bronze]

should have done yorn when it was yorn time

[queen grail]

Not really much of a difference in "how long the quest takes"

[wise pasture]

mine took like 7,5h

[queen grail]

Either it sucked back then or It sucks now, It sucks either way.

[storm bronze]

yeah but there's was nothing to do besides that

[queen grail]

That's 🧢 Always been a ton of stuff to do.

At least for people with my roster