I dont see perfomance based system as particulary good...
#lost-ark-discussions
lilac frigate
youre telling people "you cant play the game. btw good luck trying to learn. we are gonna gatekeep you"
you are creating an elitism that destroys a lot
polar torrent
youre talking as if there is only 1 learner at any given moment
lilac frigate
i think they have the right to play the game as well
polar torrent
i think they have the right to play the game as well
they dont have the right to waste my time
meager hill
the biggest issue, imo, isn't that you're wasting time, but that you're very likely impeding your progression
swift tree
Paradise
meager hill
having to chose on whether I help a friend prog brel but likely not clear for karma, or actually get my clear for karma sucks
swift tree
Heaven/Hell system is meant to be the alternative route
broken lava
Paradise has yet to come out sadly
swift tree
Paradise has yet to come out sadly
the intermediate band-aid is solo mode 
broken lava
still think they should rework solo mode to have a dynamic group mode, many many people would love to play the raids with their duo or trio
meager hill
they need to rework raids in general to have a dynamic group mode
swift tree
they need to rework raids in general to have a dynamic group mode
something that Korea doesn't particularly ask for (so it doesn't come up)
meager hill
and just roll solo mode into it
uncut dirge
I don't know if this is an ideal scenario
polar torrent
most people can clear raids just fine with lower gear, so yes thats true
uncut dirge
the people that perform poorly would still not be accepted
swift tree
taken a year of AGS and Tencent hammering Smilegate just to make a dedicated solo progression path and Korea lost their shit over it.
meager hill
swift tree
"rrr Diablo Game ughh"
uncut dirge
and i would bet that a lot of people that perform poorly can't really perform up to your high standards
even if they try to get better at it
meager hill
let me reword it, korea is frankly very stupid when it comes to healthy QoL for the game
uncut dirge
you'd basically be dooming them out of the game
polar torrent
the people that perform poorly would still not be accepted
dont apply to a reclear full phantom lord lobby then
uncut dirge
no, there's no "play with other people like them"
it's "they don't get to play the game at all"
swift magnet
they need to rework raids in general to have a dynamic group mode
that would be so cool scalable raids depending on how many palyers go in
lilac frigate
dont apply to a reclear full phantom lord lobby then
the issue there is that only those exist/get filled
meager hill
that would be so cool scalable raids depending on how many palyers go in
that's what the game needs to survive this raid-based progression route that exists now
swift tree
Deathboi isn't exactly wrong with it being a way of being able to draw more accurate metrics, the debate becomes on where to set the line of "acceptable" uptime/dps performance. Which obviously depends on groups.
Don't expect efficiency chads to be lenient with their standards tho.
meager hill
korea can kick, scream and cry all they want, but they'll have to implement it sooner or later
polar torrent
Deathboi isn't exactly wrong with it being a way of being able to draw more accu...
if i see someone expected to do 5% above min dps, thats good enough for me
meager hill
or accept that the game is going to be abandonware with 100 people online at peak hours
swift tree
that's what the game needs to survive this raid-based progression route that exi...
Game is planned to move away from it though after Kazeros
swift magnet
i only have pm if after 30 min nobody accepts me i just go nm. cant be bothered with hm if i am solo and not palying with kat and friend
uncut dirge
Deathboi isn't exactly wrong with it being a way of being able to draw more accu...
The 'acceptable performance line' is "below what I perform at" and "above X% of the playerbase"
swift tree
The 'acceptable performance line' is "below what I perform at" and "above X% of ...
"Above average dps minimum required to defeat the boss within berserk timer" would be my one tbh
uncut dirge
except it wouldn't
everyone would be looking for your "1000 rating"
hell, if we go by the phrase of "pretty good"
then it's likely people would look for 1200/1400 performancec instead
polar torrent
maybe those 200 score people would TRY to improve then
this game has 0 feedback, people could be dead weight for YEARS and not notice it
swift tree
1200 whale + good player
1000 strong
900 whale + bad player
800 average
700 median
600 (actual raid requirement)
500 below requirement
450 being carried
To break it down further
600 is fine, 700-800 will be most people
people expecting 1000+ (and no doubt there will be) are shit for brains
In the current system players do, all the time.
polar torrent
or they actually wanna play the game a bit more so they intentionally take people who are slightly lower but still above the min score
uncut dirge
i think you guys severely overestimate how many very good players there are
swift tree
Or just dont care and know they're strong enough to carry the fight, but will still take bare minimum
uncut dirge
and underestimate how many 'bad players' there are
polar torrent
hm brel was starting to get boring, after my static pushed 3 more chars to 1690, now im having fun in hm brel again
swift magnet
swift tree
and underestimate how many 'bad players' there are
Frankly, I'm tired of the good/bad players rhetoric, but that comes from a place of advantage as a support main
uncut dirge
i think everyone in my old static that played was above platinum in league at some point
swift magnet
hmmmm wasnt it guruanteed relic book from chaos gate bonus room? or chance to get one?
uncut dirge
maybe even diamond
swift magnet
got maxmp from gate bonus room
uncut dirge
we're talking the top 1-10% of the players
swift tree
Depends on if you view altruism as a sign of weakness according to your own worldview
vocal pollen
hmmmm wasnt it guruanteed relic book from chaos gate bonus room? or chance to ge...
has to be a specific bonus room
swift magnet
has to be a specific bonus room
ooh kk
uncut dirge
if you want performance like that, you're cutting out almost everyone else in the entire game
polar torrent
i think everyone in my old static that played was above platinum in league at so...
i got to diamond and then got bored, same goes for my static members
that was back when challenjour didnt exist
uncut dirge
especially if you're adding on things like gear requirements
like this is a very high hurdle to cross
that's just not true
i'm saying that if you're looking for the top 1% of all players
polar torrent
that's just not true
no it is true
uncut dirge
you're still segmenting the players
because not every single player in the game is going to be equally geared
polar torrent
why would you take the 1710 guy that apparently only does 90m compared to the 1690 who does 120m
uncut dirge
so you end up not looking for the top 1%
meager hill
ok but in lost ark skill is a big part of your damage
swift tree
Gear requirements are rather superfluous considering how better fleshed out global rosters are.
Only time when the aggregate scores will really matter is if an alt roster is applying with no cards/gems/skill points/stat bonuses have been earned
polar torrent
the top % people dont pug buddy
swift tree
Unless you're on an alt roster support account trying to rice farm you shouldn't be scared by a ZLOA score
(provided the party you're joining isn't completely batshit)
uncut dirge
the top % people dont pug buddy
of course they do
they might not take their big character into a random party finder group, but they do open the group up for randoms to fill it
swift tree
they might not take their big character into a random party finder group, but th...
For Behemoth, other stuff though
can be a different story
uncut dirge
well, i'm not sure what they do these days
but back in akkan days i saw a bunch of esther players or other such that pumped real hard
uncut dirge
I don't think enough esthers exist to make up a whole %
doesn't stop us from demanding it
swift tree
I don't think enough esthers exist to make up a whole %
at this point, it's more likely the player base will shrink enough for there to be a %
meager hill
FINALLY
https://i.imgur.com/ca3hkaY.png
vivid sentinel
and one of them got shot in EU 
swift tree
FINALLY
https://i.imgur.com/ca3hkaY.png
naisu
storm bronze
swift tree
and one of them got shot in EU <:ducklaugh:765326218043195393>
*Several got shot in NAE
@sand marsh You ever see what happened to that Siderial Bard?
meager hill
at this point, it's more likely the player base will shrink enough for there to ...
road to 1k players 
uncut dirge
Unless you're on an alt roster support account trying to rice farm you shouldn't...
i'm not scared of a performance based score for myself
it would be helpful to me
polar torrent
imagine if sidereal weapon was just 1 per roster, and you could shift it around your chars if you dont like your main anymore
and if it didnt cost and arm and a leg
uncut dirge
i'm just afraid that the "playing now" number will get even lower with that
because some players will never get good
swift tree
There was a Bard on Innana (was Vykas at the time) with a Siderial weapon
uncut dirge
no matter how hard they try
and if they then get extra gatekept for it they will leave
polar torrent
because some players will never get good
good, they can stop making other people quit then
swift tree
Vykas server
meager hill
imagine if sidereal weapon was just 1 per roster, and you could shift it around ...
won't happen, SG already acknowledged and agreed with the KR sentiment that esther weapons are whale only territory
swift tree
uncut dirge
good, they can stop making other people quit then
buddy, we need bots right now to keep our economy running because we don't have enough players
i'd rather not this situation get worse
storm bronze
vagrant cradle
uncut dirge
go calculate how much life skill energy you get in a week
then calculate how many leaps you get per week
and how many fusions it would take to use up those leaps
swift tree
Don't lie, you're just busy enjoying the giant's feet
uncut dirge
without bots fusion price would be going up and up and up only
swift tree
uncut dirge
because a single roster doesn't generate enough life skill energy to make enough fusions for 6 chars
polar torrent
go calculate how much life skill energy you get in a week
i have my main at 1700, 3 1690s and 2 1670s without buying a single fusion off of the market
uncut dirge
great
swift magnet
because a single roster doesn't generate enough life skill energy to make enough...
its barely enough for 1 😄
polar torrent
dunno, a decent amount
swift tree
because a single roster doesn't generate enough life skill energy to make enough...
just have 12k life energy /s
uncut dirge
we have such high demand for fusions
that even right now when we're flooded by life skill mats from bots
the fusion price isn't coming down
polar torrent
i have like 3k leaps unbound sitting around
swift magnet
wait for adv honing 20-40 price day 1 will spike xD
swift magnet
EUC would probably be looking at 120-150g fusions
this ya
swift tree
wait for adv honing 20-40 price day 1 will spike xD
I'm holding onto reds
uncut dirge
the issue is basically that
your roster generates a set amount of life skill energy, ergo a set amount of fusions
whereas you can have 1-6 characters that will require 1x-6x amount of fusions
swift tree
your roster generates a set amount of life skill energy, ergo a set amount of fu...
Almost like the game is designed around using the Mari shop
uncut dirge
i think the balance point right now
is at about a 3-4 character roster
so 5 and 6 char rosters will be eating extra fusions that others life skill with their small char rosters
swift magnet
I'm holding onto reds
i hold all. never sold 1
uncut dirge
Almost like the game is designed around using the Mari shop
i doubt this was intentional
because i don't think we had this problem at the start of T3
storm bronze
uncut dirge
but it's just a combination of fusions needing the same amount of life skill mats
swift magnet
uncut dirge
but you getting fewer of them per craft
swift tree
i doubt this was intentional
intentional, but made execessively worse by accident.
They slowly ate from both ends by increasing material/gold cost and reducing the amount produced each craft
uncut dirge
we used to get 30 fusions per craft, then 20, then 15, now 10
vagrant cradle
same pretty much
polar torrent
so your solution is to rely on bots instead of telling ags to make crafting fusions cheaper? lmao
swift tree
they chose to increase cost AND reduce output, instead of picking one
uncut dirge
so your solution is to rely on bots instead of telling ags to make crafting fusi...
"my solution"
swift magnet
they chose to increase cost AND reduce output, instead of picking one
its the business model
uncut dirge
bro, i'm telling you what's happening in the game right now
and has been happening for the past 6 months
swift magnet
kr palyers swipe for this mega honing pack
uncut dirge
and i think 120g per fusion might be underselling it
during the long period of time we didn't have many bots
swift tree
its the business model
It's almost like someone decided to raise tariffs on food whilst reducing the nutritional value of all food by half
uncut dirge
EUC fusions actually increased to like 108g
swift magnet
It's almost like someone decided to raise tariffs on food whilst reducing the nu...
sounds like mr orange xD
vivid sentinel
@swift tree btw how goes the EU banning digital currencies in game ?
swift magnet
this could be a thing for him lol
uncut dirge
and i'm saying that this can be alleviated if there are more players who play like 1-3 chars
swift tree
<@113554204676685824> btw how goes the EU banning digital currencies in game ?
I'm not EU
idk
vivid sentinel
so forgetful
swift tree
🙃
storm bronze
Australia UK all the same
uncut dirge
<@113554204676685824> btw how goes the EU banning digital currencies in game ?
well they seem to say that all of these measures are "to protect the children"
and since this is an 18+ game.. idk
swift tree
well they seem to say that all of these measures are "to protect the children"
they still apply it industry wide
polar torrent
and since this is an 18+ game.. idk
some 30 year old people are still children
swift tree
reason why all MMOs now require providing a credit card before having access to certain elements
polar torrent
look at all the sidereal weapon users
wise pasture
some 30 year old people are still children
make that 70y old ones
uncut dirge
reason why all MMOs now require providing a credit card before having access to ...
what elements?
swift magnet
<@113554204676685824> btw how goes the EU banning digital currencies in game ?
well the only thing that would change is instead of 3k royal crystals we will see 20€ ingame
if i understood it correctly
vocal pollen
from 1 run, btw
swift tree
what elements?
Some games took their lootboxes out of free-drops and made them swipe-only
vivid sentinel
well the only thing that would change is instead of 3k royal crystals we will se...
Nothing will change if there no punishment
swift magnet
Nothing will change if there no punishment
and this ya
uncut dirge
Some games took their lootboxes out of free-drops and made them swipe-only
i see
you know, there's one game that did lootboxes in a funny way
storm bronze
L game
uncut dirge
you can't really say that it's gambling, but it... is
swift tree
you know, there's one game that did lootboxes in a funny way
TF2?
swift tree
You generate boxes but need to buy keys
uncut dirge
instead, the lootbox is already open
you know what you're buying
but the next box is RNG
vivid sentinel
@swift magnet but it still funny to see everyone 3 month ago linking YouTuber with video title something along the line of EU kill in game currency video
uncut dirge
and you can only get the next box rng to roll if you buy this one
meager hill
swift magnet
<@289353434057146368> but it still funny to see everyone 3 month ago linking Yo...
well youtuber and streamers are "i jump on the drama train for views" before i tink about it. cant blame them though xD
too many ppl believe things too fast without thinking xD
swift tree
<@289353434057146368> but it still funny to see everyone 3 month ago linking Yo...
CPC got sued for not consulting with industry members, so guess they backtracked on some of it and have taken it back to the drawing board
uncut dirge
tbh i don't trust eu politicians
making any decisions related to, honestly, anything
they have done such delightful things in the past
like make it a requirement that every ISP track every single website you visit
and keep a log of it for 1 year's time
swift magnet
https://www.videogamesindustrymemo.com/p/fight-breaks-out-over-eus-new-in
tbh the EU is trying to regulate too many things. what the hell in the future they will say only 1 layered toilet paper is allwoed. go do smt useful and not cooking up useless stuff xD
swift tree
Your country didn't wait until 2010 to develop an R18+ rating, instead just banning any game that would qualify for that classification
polar torrent
yeah, fuck usb c, lets go back to proprietary connectors for EVERYTHING
uncut dirge
or the time they introduced new VAT rules, where they just "forgot" to add a minimum thershold that just destroyed micro businesses
swift tree
swift magnet
TRIPLE EMBER xD
storm bronze
Bigfoot in 4k when
vivid sentinel
CPC got sued for not consulting with industry members, so guess they backtracked...
Did you actually read it ? 
polar torrent
its mind boggling how some of the monetary strategies used by the gaming industry havent been banned 10 years ago
vivid sentinel
its mind boggling how some of the monetary strategies used by the gaming industr...
How so you seen how slow the government move
polar torrent
How so you seen how slow the government move
governments were pretty quick at banning people from going outside during covid
but they didnt bother banning the people bringing covid to their country lmao
vivid sentinel
yeah but that not a law they pass
That just the president issuesing an executive order
polar torrent
That just the president issuesing an executive order
they move when they feel like it
vocal pollen
I got 7 from my one run 
polar torrent
uncut dirge
i just got 3
but i was afraid i'd have to do it 6+ times like previously
i forgot they changed it
vocal pollen
don't have extras in your inventory by chance?
uncut dirge
not that i can see
vocal pollen
iirc it's some drops + a stack for "completing" it
uncut dirge
only stack is 3
vivid sentinel
they move when they feel like it
Sure I guess if that what you believe
vocal pollen
rip
uncut dirge
i just hope i dont get 2 this time
swift tree
Sure I guess if that what you believe
Have you really just come here to start beef about the EU?
past ginkgo
<a:Nice:1152245839817883688>
I haven't played for like 5 days
But today back to raids
swift tree
I haven't played for like 5 days
trying to get to a comfy spot whilst I do MSQ and lifeskill on Lost Ark
vivid sentinel
Have you really just come here to start beef about the EU?
Just curious I wouldn’t come to those conclusions after reading it
past ginkgo
So what is this EU talk about?
uncut dirge
we were talking about the digital currency thing
past ginkgo
Ah so irrelevant things
vivid sentinel
Ah so irrelevant things
Yes
lilac frigate
I havent seen the EU thing being adopted yet
meager hill
vocal pollen
uncut dirge
surely it'll drop at least 1 this time
past ginkgo
trying to get to a comfy spot whilst I do MSQ and lifeskill on Lost Ark
Just rush quest cape easy
Best thing you can do as new account
vocal pollen
i'd give you the extra chest I have if I could 
swift tree
Best thing you can do as new account
need skill requirements, working on those
past ginkgo
You get good stats and lots of area access and good rewards
Only hard quest might be Desert Treasure 2 tbh
And maybe Song Of The Elves
uncut dirge
You get good stats and lots of area access and good rewards
i think it's dumb that it works this way
past ginkgo
i think it's dumb that it works this way
what?
uncut dirge
that everything is quest locked
uncut dirge
i don't mean that you should get quest cape i mean that everything is quest locked
i think some of the quests in teh game are really cool but since i'm forced to do them
to unlock an area, it means i'm just opening up the guide and doing it as fast as possible
instead of doing it when i have time to enjoy it
it made me hate quests in the game
swift tree
uncut dirge
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
rmt
swift tree
rolled a necklace with outgoing damage +2%
vivid sentinel
when i started playing
That really early then
swift tree
but it was the 3rd slot and had mid max HP and a support bonus
past ginkgo
there was almost no area that required quest unlocks
It's only really the hard quests that give you important quest unlocks, the other ones are whatever
Maybe Bone Voyage is also important, but that quest is really easy and done in like 10 minutes
swift tree
there was almost no area that required quest unlocks
Triffidas has always required a quest unlock, same with Crandor, Shilo Village and a few other areas 
uncut dirge
Triffidas has always required a quest unlock, same with Crandor, Shilo Village a...
my account is 23 years old
swift tree
my account is 18 years old
swift tree
Crandor was added in 2001
uncut dirge
I guess the other part is that I did those quests on my original account/rs3
And I've done a lot of em in leagues so I don't really want to do them again
frail bridge
Did they change Wei's face? It looks younger than what I remember from Annika & SV (doing rimeria)
frail bridge
Damn who knew going to war with an archdemon made you look younger
past ginkgo
Yeh Wei looks younger
frail bridge
where them archdemons at, tryna look young af again xD
Soooo what I'm hearing is I need a superior atro then I'll be fine
Hell maybe I launch a new makeup line made from archdemon blood make some big money while I'm at it 
Proven to look younger - by Wei
swift tree
where them archdemons at, tryna look young af again xD
depending on which version you encounter you're either made younger or turned into a DarkSouls character
Scalp encoutner the Elden Ring variant and got turned into a twink
Shandi encounter the DarkSouls one and turned goth
swift tree
gg cause he ancient
His coat went from blue/green to red/black
frail bridge
Lmao Wartorn Shandi
swift tree
He's wearing the red/black one now at level 10 too
they got updated across the entire game
Brel has a new outfit for her Legion Raid and her horns have a pink glow to them now
frail bridge
Whaaa???
swift tree
new outfit in Gate 4 of Legion Raid
well "updated outfit"
it's her robes in the Kazeros Raid but still wearing her shawl/horns
frail bridge
Isn't that how her original outfit looked or was it just more purple tinted?
gusty fulcrum
Lowkey, lowwwwwkey where are the girls in this game.
frail bridge
In the abyss 
frail bridge
Damn dead nurd
burnt tree
frail bridge
burnt tree
girls is a fantasy
Arna is not real? 
vocal pollen
Arna is a cat, duh
frail bridge
burnt tree
riiiight
safe lark
Arna is not real? <:AYOOO:1243286228783337472>
i thought she exists only in my dreams
vocal pollen
burnt tree
damnn
safe lark
vocal pollen
frail bridge
frail bridge
Canada is...Uh...something else
burnt tree
Conspiracy Theory: Canada and the US aren't real
US isnt real for sure
https://tenor.com/view/wonyoung-jang-wonyoung-letterboxd-reaction-half-star-gif-13983925751380388168
swift tree
Isn't that how her original outfit looked or was it just more purple tinted?
more or less the same but newer one is higher resolution
^ is older one
hair is better on new one
swift tree
think the new cloak/cape is more detailed
burnt tree
Mommy 
burnt tree
quick someone give her her soul back
swift tree
quick someone give her her soul back
She appears in Act 3 btw
swift tree
KR always skip it
burnt tree
idk why i read it as act 4 ayo
swift tree
They said Kazeros himself is a separate dungeon/encounter to Act 4.... 
unless it's Gate 3 on a 2 week lockout
frail bridge
Nooo act 4 is our char tells everyone to go away and solve their own problem lol
frail bridge
proceeds to take a nap
swift tree
*proceeds to take a nap*
worked for Nineveh
burnt tree
Clearly didn't, whenever Thaemine appears her wing goes peepo
swift tree
everyone who joined game after South Vern powerpass not knowing that she slept the last 500 years
burnt tree
Also her affection quest frfr
swift tree
Also her affection quest frfr
That's just how good the nap was, she threw her back out
frail bridge
lmao
swift tree
KaZeRoS iS tHe wHoLe ToWer
frail bridge
6 gate kazzy 👀
swift tree
It probably will be, with multiple phases
swift tree
what we've been shown is just 4-1 like how they didn't show Bathing Suit Thaemine
burnt tree
swift tree
<:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
Thaemine in G4 is wearing a 2-piece, no joke
frail bridge
add lots of cutscenes & make the fight extra long ezpz
burnt tree
Idc what they do as long as im not forced to clear the sweat gate to progress the story
swift tree
unlike Thaemine
past ginkgo
Idc what they do as long as im not forced to clear the sweat gate to progress th...
Worst thing they ever did for G4 Thaemine tbh
swift tree
Luterra stays red
frail bridge
saammee
burnt tree
Solo G4 when
frail bridge
^
burnt tree
Yes that's not changing
swift tree
Solo G4 when
Surely with this LOA On
past ginkgo
Haven't done G4 at all, fuck that gate LOL
burnt tree
Surely with this LOA On
Luttera red despite story telling me i survived Thaemines full assault
Kazeros dies, Luttera still red
rocky plume
swift tree
Luttera red despite story telling me i survived Thaemines full assault
Also Shandi knowing who Kharmine is in NK MSQ
which also feeds into Rimeria plot
burnt tree
Also the purple quest could have showen Kharmine saving our ass
Shown*
Like just show the same cutscene as the raid and then continue the quest
frail bridge
I honestly don't even know how everything ties together at this point just that kaz = bad and everyone is apparently like 500+ years old
burnt tree
I honestly don't even know how everything ties together at this point just that ...
I mean two Sidereals are dead from old age and stuff
I barely learned G3 and forgot all about it now
Well Luttera died from Oldge, Sien died from cock
Gakaturd is dead too
Galaturd*
That's 3
frail bridge
Lmao
burnt tree
Lmao
Yozes live for a thousand years or some shit. The Pahu mf from Rimeria is older than Shandi
swift tree
I honestly don't even know how everything ties together at this point just that ...
tl;dr this one guy got a whole of a magical mcguffin that gave them godlike powers
to prevent anyone else from having this god-power, they broke it into 7 pieces so people had to fight each other
realising that some races could ally-up / surpass each other, they panicked, banished a god and their whole race from existence and then made a "Haha I win" 8th Ark needed to combine them.
War in this magical "ark realm" caused a rift with Petrania and both slowly eating away at each other made a realm of death called the Abyss.
Since the Abyss contains properties of both realms, gods are a thing, and the one for the Abyss is Kazeros
burnt tree
Sylvain too
frail bridge
I just wanna punt the yoz kids tbh lmao
burnt tree
I just wanna punt the yoz kids tbh lmao
Unironically Yoz kids are so tiny lmaoo
swift tree
I just wanna punt the yoz kids tbh lmao
the ones with the deep voices are adults so that's allowed
frail bridge
Nah it's open season
frail bridge
proceeds to drop "accidently" drop GL shield on them
burnt tree
Enjoy getting imprisoned forever mf
swift tree
*proceeds to drop "accidently" drop GL shield on them*
I repeat, who d'fuck leaves perfectly good dragonhide gear sitting around
swift tree
It's like "Oh, I don't need these tier 3 materials" drops 200 red orehas on floor
burnt tree
It's like "Oh, I don't need these tier 3 materials" *drops 200 red orehas on flo...
Me deleting T3 Orehas from alts days before they announce conversion
uncut dirge
you know what gunlancer needs?
a spike on the shield
then an ability that slams the shield into the boss and sticks to the boss with the spike
so if the boss rotates the gunlancer stays at the same angle from the boss
frail bridge
That'd be kinda neat
uncut dirge
does anyone know how many dark fires we need for full transcendence?
meager hill
625
past ginkgo
Oh well dailies done... now what
worldly hawk
Oh well dailies done... now what
past ginkgo
https://tenor.com/view/touch-grass-illusion-keyboard-pc-gaming-gif-1780780814775...
Lets go good idea
low nebula
#freecrierr
storm bronze
burnt tree
past ginkgo
They always bring them asap
past ginkgo
Remember last LOA On, they brought it a week after announcement
storm bronze
worldly hawk
not for people that have chars at 1660
worldly hawk
which is a large % of the playerbase
burnt tree
gatekeeping is ass
worldly hawk
people are delulu
burnt tree
they ask for 5 set when u need to do aegir to get 5set
worldly hawk
you need like 30m dps for aegir normal
burnt tree
things get eassier but the requirements to get accepted increase
the community simply sucks ass
thats why Solo aegir should release asap
worldly hawk
i dissagree
past ginkgo
worldly hawk
worldly hawk
because people want to skip
burnt tree
1660 group can skip just the same
burnt tree
i dont consider high ilvl = more competent
worldly hawk
or go into 1680 only lobbys
burnt tree
i mean yeah 90% of players are below average
worldly hawk
the majority of gamers suck
burnt tree
welcome to lost ark
but i disagree with the shitty requirments increasing for nerfed raids
all the same
such a backwards community
past ginkgo
If they don't bring them yet, I just do Thaemine/Echidna solo raids
On those characters
safe lark
isnt strike outside of 3 raids?
safe lark
past ginkgo
burnt tree
o.O
burnt tree
yea
burnt tree
no one gives a shit about "now"
worldly hawk
the number will maybe rise to 0.3%
burnt tree
also if we factor the now
worldly hawk
still a very small percentage of the playerbase
burnt tree
Act 3 is in 1.5 week
past ginkgo
wtf man
burnt tree
not as tiny as u make it to be however
burnt tree
these numbers will go up by a lot with new AH
which u ignore desert since u speak about Now
when Strike Raid is in like September
we dont have relevant content that require anyone to be 1720 rn so it doesnt matter
past ginkgo
Yeh not like people will do 3 months of Mordum until then xD
Which is all of 21-30 or even 31-40
past ginkgo
Yeh they will easily be 1720 for strike
burnt tree
Yep
past ginkgo
Who are 1700+ right now
burnt tree
And we've been getting a decent amount of mats anyway
storm bronze
anyone that plays
burnt tree
If you didn't save for it or something its no one elses fault
wintry depot
I dont have 15k leaps aaaaaaaaaaa
past ginkgo
Until September, I'm probably 1690 on main as well
thorny olive
Until September, I'm probably 1690 on main as well
storm bronze
🐋
thorny olive
Someone be proud of me. I hone 1697 last night
gratz
fresh flint
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288> gratz
fresh flint
@neon cedar Cinder pics 5$ usd per now sir
devout nymph
wasnt relic book supposed to be guarantued with the hidden boss in chasogate
frail bridge
I only just barely got my main to 1690 I think 2 weeks ago am le poor now
storm bronze
comeback angle
thorny olive
storm bronze
past ginkgo
Nvm ivory tower solo is still like 5k bound and it takes literally no time
storm bronze
with new card set it's never comeback angle tho
thorny olive
Yes it’s supposed to be
Where does it say that
past ginkgo
comeback angle
at that point rather take rat t3 gems l0l
fresh flint
I thought that’s the whole selling point for 1700 chaos
thorny olive
It's just higher chance as usually
storm bronze
at that point rather take rat t3 gems l0l
fresh flint
<:pepeW:965819854609338388>
This you
past ginkgo
<:pepeW:965819854609338388>
you quit?
fresh flint
Didn’t you uninstall
storm bronze
yes
fresh flint
past ginkgo
If you stripped all, kinda hard to come back tbh
thorny olive
If you stripped all, you shouldn't come back
thorny olive
solo shop vendor
past ginkgo
The only gems I stripped recently was Scrapper
But I don't want to play it anymore xd
storm bronze
i dunno i see people collecting new cards in here
past ginkgo
It's now a chaos/solo raids pleb
Idk, new cards are w/e
They're better yes but LoS 30 still most value tbh
devout nymph
:took only 30 dispatches
storm bronze
kind wanna replay my zerk but all the shits i would have to do to catchup is 
past ginkgo
I wouldn't play if I didn't have LoS 30 now though
Thankfully they give out LoS 24 every express
storm bronze
i can still see my gems on the site 
past ginkgo
Atleast I get like... 52k bound gold from 2 chars doing solo right now, that is good for honing
The others do raids
thorny olive
But I don't want to play it anymore xd
storm bronze
who knows i'm probably ban like crierr
thorny olive
Well not like you have any choice
past ginkgo
Restarting in this game is a death sentence xd
thorny olive
Yea
thorny olive
burnt tree
I dont have 15k leaps aaaaaaaaaaa
Me neither but i got enough for 21-30 xD
thorny olive
<@97435016799207424> this u no ?
AAAA don't leak my bad gear
past ginkgo
I tried to give them a reason but they looked at New player experience and instantly said no
thorny olive
🐳 <:houston_huh:1323373690632671394>
Am smol
thorny olive
bad gear... just a million times the gear of mine
worldly hawk
@fresh flint 
cinder pics
burnt tree
All these whales with overgeard alts
past ginkgo
As long as the main gets up there, it's fine
Alts gonna be parked on 1680 for eternity xd
storm bronze
burnt tree
Same, I'll push my WS to 1680 eventually but she won't go higher before Kazeros releases
thorny olive
Alts gonna be parked on 1680 for eternity xd
Yeah I have 2 sitting at 1680, don't feel like pushing them further, been doing karma on 4 instead
thorny olive
<:KEKL:895494621780639774>
Oh so smol
burnt tree
Damn i thought ud have one 1700 Ineri
past ginkgo
Nah I was on break like 4 months
burnt tree
Where did your BnS spirit of grind go
past ginkgo
Oh I was top 10 BM until demonsbane
storm bronze
did they finally release an official api or it's mined
past ginkgo
in EU
thorny olive
did they finally release an official api or it's mined
It's probably "mined"
It's not official anyway
thorny olive
Yus
thorny olive
I hate adv honing
storm bronze
thorny olive
All I ever get is chisel, I'm never lucky in that system, it takes 50 years to hone and it feels like you're making no progress until you're done with a piece
thorny olive
While normal honing you just tap -> success -> dopamine -> level
somber patrol
hey guys are there SEA servers for lost ark? I am from Oceania and I am trying to figure out which server to make an aaccount on if I want to play
burnt tree
hey guys are there SEA servers for lost ark? I am from Oceania and I am trying t...
Nope. But most SEA players play on NAW
somber patrol
its like 175 ping for US West, I would probably get like 60 ping on korean servers
thorny olive
its like 175 ping for US West, I would probably get like 60 ping on korean serve...
How's NAE?
somber patrol
200
past ginkgo
hey guys are there SEA servers for lost ark? I am from Oceania and I am trying t...
I would recommend NAW
thorny olive
Yeah just go NAW
somber patrol
is 175 too bad to play harder classes or in pvp?
past ginkgo
You should probably not play high APM classes
worldly hawk
PvP 
somber patrol
oh is pvp dead?
past ginkgo
There is no PvP
worldly hawk
there is like maybe a handful of people that play PvP
thorny olive
is 175 too bad to play harder classes or in pvp?
A lot of people say it's mostly fine when they do raids
wicked blade
somber patrol
damn I really like mmo pvp thats one reason I was considering coming back
but thats fine
thorny olive
Aw
storm bronze
not only pvp 
thorny olive
damn I really like mmo pvp thats one reason I was considering coming back
Well, idk how long ago you quit, but they added solo raids and stuff to help people catch up since old raids are basically dead
somber patrol
I played like in beta in korea and on launch
thorny olive
somber patrol
I was scared off a bit by the honing stuff
thorny olive
Well, the honing stuff is nerfed up to 1620/1640
wicked blade
<:dead:1024041666182660237>
Who murdered you?
past ginkgo
Oh yeah we already got the nerfs right?
thorny olive
Ye
past ginkgo
thorny olive
Who murdered you?
Thinking about how far behind he is, poor new players
But you managed, surely he can
lilac frigate
and theres not even a powerpass going on right now, right?
past ginkgo
One thing they need to change though
thorny olive
and theres not even a powerpass going on right now, right?
Yeah.. wish they just added permanent new player pass
past ginkgo
Is so you can craft orehas in SH with bound gold
wicked blade
But you managed, surely he can
Ummm about that 
thorny olive
Is so you can craft orehas in SH with bound gold
Well, that would make it bound fusion, farm can do it but farm sucks
They don't want you to be able to turn bound gold into unbound gold (crafting with bound gold, selling for unbound gold)
somber patrol
and theres not even a powerpass going on right now, right?
whats that do I need to buy it?
stark sky
A lot of sea players play on nae
somber patrol
are there any classes that are low apm but have a lot of decision-making?
stark sky
If you still haven't made your decision
storm bronze
honestly if you have 50k$ to spent lost ark is great
past ginkgo
Man, my Scrapper always wants to be special
thorny olive
A lot of sea players play on nae
200 ping is ok?
stark sky
And I would recommend you playing on nae
wide stag
are there any classes that are low apm but have a lot of decision-making?
basically all the spec classes.
stark sky
Ping doesn't really matter all too much in this game if it's stable
thorny olive
@somber patrol swap to NAE if you haven't made any significant progress you want to keep
wicked blade
@thorny olive I mean I catched up to you guys who started day 1 but... I was carried by 1m gold embers and books in total and on top of that I also spend some money on 2-3m gold and 2m gold worth of mats
stark sky
The problem with naw is just that the population is so low you'll have a hard time playing the game
Especially at a lower level
storm bronze
aquatic placental marine mammal
thorny olive
<@97435016799207424> I mean I catched up to you guys who started day 1 but... I ...
Crazy
somber patrol
is europe or nae more players?
lilac frigate
its always possible to catch up. just takes a lot of time
thorny olive
Yeah I got carried back in T3 to reach 1580 when I was behind by dropping sidereal, RNG can do so much
wintry depot
is europe or nae more players?
Euc
somber patrol
oh nae is 220 ping hahaha and europe is 190 I guess I go there
storm bronze
oh nae is 220 ping hahaha and europe is 190 I guess I go there
timezone tho ?
wicked blade
And 200k gold embers
wide stag
is europe or nae more players?
If you put NAE and NAW together they might come close to reaching EUC numbers.. but EUC for sure has more than NAE alone.
somber patrol
8gmt but I stay up late
wicked blade
So giga carried by rng
somber patrol
its 10pm now
stark sky
Eu is fine too
past ginkgo
Ofc you can catch up if you spend money
past ginkgo
I mean that should be common sense xd
somber patrol
basically all the spec classes.
what does this mean by spec? as in any class?
thorny olive
its 10pm now
It's 3:43pm in EU
lilac frigate
It takes 2 months
probably more than 2 months
somber patrol
I am usually up for another 3-5 hours
wicked blade
It's 3:43pm in EU
Is today world boss?
somber patrol
It takes 2 months
is that when paradise mode will be out lol
wide stag
what does this mean by spec? as in any class?
spec as in specialization.. one of the main stats.
past ginkgo
Well, that would make it bound fusion, farm can do it but farm sucks
Yeah add an option like the chests from farm but let it be made with bound gold so they are roster bound as chests and character bound when opened
wicked blade
is that when paradise mode will be out lol
Ye, I'm excited for that aswell
Raids are boring
stark sky
It's not really tied to "stats"
If you want a low apm class I'd recommend slayer probably
thorny olive
I am usually up for another 3-5 hours
Well then you can play EU, if you wanna do multiplayer stuff around midnight (for you) because that would be when most people are on (getting off work at 6pm EU, etc)
stark sky
Both specs are pretty slow paced
stark sky
And avoid deathblade and arcana
uncut dirge
cubes exist as a punishment for talking shit about lost ark
wicked blade
And avoid deathblade and arcana
Bruh
wide stag
what does this mean by spec? as in any class?
Some classes go full spec, some go crit or swiftness. typically the swiftness classes are very fast paced and spammy and dont have strict rotations, while the crit and spec ones are slower and have to build up their meter/gauge to be able to unleas ton of burst dmg in a small window of time.
wicked blade
past ginkgo
Bruh
He's right, Arcana and deathblade on high ping is ridiculous
Might as well reroll tbh
wicked blade
He's right, Arcana and deathblade on high ping is ridiculous
I might learn to play piano
I had to hotswap switch because I broke it
Fucking Deathblade
thorny olive
If you want a low apm class I'd recommend slayer probably
Or Zerker? (Easier DMG for a new player?)
past ginkgo
Yeah better to play stuff like Slayer on higher ping, way more forgiving
stark sky
Zerker and slayer are both good
wicked blade
Yeah better to play stuff like Slayer on higher ping, way more forgiving
Surge is forgiving
somber patrol
from memory my favourite classes were deathblade and the demon assasin one hahaha
but I didnt get far in endgame
stark sky
Shadow Hunter is fine
past ginkgo
Shadowhunter is fine too
stark sky
wouldn't play deathblade though
wicked blade
from memory my favourite classes were deathblade and the demon assasin one hahah...
Someone is copying me
stark sky
Perfect suppression is above average apm, but demonic impulse is on the lower end
stark sky
There's a lot of uptime heavy spec classes nowadays
And a surprising amount of downtime swift classes
thorny olive
There's a lot of uptime heavy spec classes nowadays
thorny olive
And a surprising amount of downtime swift classes
Ikr..
past ginkgo
soon after next express, she is already waiting
thorny olive
soon after next express, she is already waiting
What a cutie 
wicked blade
soon after next express, she is already waiting
Who that
past ginkgo
Good thing is, I only need 2 high gems
The rest I can just take my aero gems for AP
xd
somber patrol
are there any things you can buy that are like cheap that benefit getting alts up? kinda want to level shadowhunter and a support
wicked blade
Good thing is, I only need 2 high gems
I mean, same for Blade... U only need 4
stark sky
Powerpasses
They skip story and put you at a higher ilvl
Quite expensive if you do it raw though
thorny olive
Would been so nice if there was permanently active starter/comeback events...
past ginkgo
What a cutie <:animeluv:887253218621534218>
thorny olive
Rip my 1700 chaos
Sad, yeah you have to manually swap because ofc SG botched the patch
valid turtle
thorny olive
<a:artistShy:1253819853102518393>
thorny olive
🐀
uncut dirge
@thorny olive i need your help
lilac frigate
concerning non spammy spec... where does soulfist go in that_
uncut dirge
free me from this torment
thorny olive
free me from this torment
?
uncut dirge
burnt tree
Just sleep Aeron
wicked blade
This new guardian can suck my d
thorny olive
Oh no..
thorny olive
This new guardian can suck my d
Funny hamster
wicked blade
New guardian is fun wdym
It is not
uncut dirge
yesterday i did like
wicked blade
I can't ba
burnt tree
swift magnet
I can't ba
just buy a guardian bus 😛
burnt tree
Once I learn the patterns I'll like it more
thorny olive
today this is the 8th cube
I did like 5 tickets, got lucky room+the thingy and still have so many tickets left
uncut dirge
i think if it's spinning
it shouldn't knock down melee attackers
that are pushed intot he boss when attacking
thorny olive
i like the new guardian more
I like the fact it's stupid
uncut dirge
like when he's spinning in place
frail bridge
Yall do guardians??? 
thorny olive
I'm at like fire 28 set for support
I got fire 24 but none of my friends have the DPS cards.. so lol
thorny olive
Smol
past ginkgo
1680 should be good tbh
lilac frigate
i should probably sell all my t3 gems...
uncut dirge
1680 is favored by raids but
past ginkgo
1680 is still like Mordum NM, Brel NM, Aegir HM
uncut dirge
1700 guardian is a bit better, chaos is quite a bit better
thorny olive
Not pushing them rn
Yeah, not really worth it, I have 1700 and 3x1690, 2x1680, that's good enough for me
past ginkgo
And 1680 also has strike raid NM then
swift magnet
i watch mordrum guides and can say i will hate this raid
thorny olive
we all do
thorny olive
And 1680 also has strike raid NM then
thorny olive
1700 guardian is a bit better, chaos is quite a bit better
New guardian: funny hamster
New chaos: better maps unless u get an old one
New cube: N/A
New chaos gate: N/A
past ginkgo
1700 guardian is a bit better, chaos is quite a bit better
Tbh 1680 should be fine for alts for a while
Unless you got static that demands more characters in 1690 or higher
Better to focus on main
wicked blade
uncut dirge
they might never hone again
thorny olive
Unless you got static that demands more characters in 1690 or higher
DEMANDS, yeah I don't like statics when they act like that
wicked blade
Meh
thorny olive
they might never hone again
thorny olive
Unlucky
burnt tree
New guardian: funny hamster
New chaos: better maps unless u get an old one
New ...
Those two new maps are so peak
past ginkgo
they might never hone again
I think even Memo in KR has only his glaivier over 1700+
thorny olive
Those two new maps are so peak
3
mortal burrow
DEMANDS, yeah I don't like statics when they act like that
yeah... and it's not like
burnt tree
guess i only got 2 of 3
thorny olive
<:Weirdga:905213052276862986> guess i only got 2 of 3
Think it's 3 unless I'm hallucinating
past ginkgo
DEMANDS, yeah I don't like statics when they act like that
I know someone who is in a static where they demanded to have atleast 3 characters in Brel HM
thorny olive
I know someone who is in a static where they demanded to have atleast 3 characte...
Quit angle
past ginkgo
The other 3 he does Brel NM, I joined them this week
burnt tree
Think it's 3 unless I'm hallucinating
The big open arena and the small map with a single road and then just arena
burnt tree
Are the ones i got
mortal burrow
I know someone who is in a static where they demanded to have atleast 3 characte...
bouta push my rat ass characters tehn :^)
mortal burrow
level 7 t3 gems and gonna get carried
uncut dirge
and then the quest one
past ginkgo
Some static really demand a lot yes
thorny olive
So 3?
mortal burrow
We call that malicious compliance
weak plinth
Yess, got bloodclaw from shipping
Can finally send alt for guardian raids again
Now only the stupid UNA left
burnt tree
Undeserved
wicked blade
Oh right, una
thorny olive
2 different "arenas" and 1 good road
mortal burrow
WHY THE FUCK IS MEMOS G2 GUIDE SO LONG
past ginkgo
I think there is one static on west, that wants everyone to have 6x 1700 on Act 3 release
mortal burrow
damn
past ginkgo
xd
mortal burrow
26 minutes
mortal burrow
that's longer than his thaemine 4-1 guide
thorny olive
WHY THE FUCK IS MEMOS G2 GUIDE SO LONG
Probably 26526 new normal patterns
wicked blade
Why do we need timegate
mortal burrow
Probably 26526 new normal patterns
as they say
wicked blade
mortal burrow
burn the house down instead
weak plinth
Why do we need timegate
cuz is SG
mortal burrow
:>
past ginkgo
Why do we need timegate
Yeh 2 weeks is kinda meh
Locks me out of space cleave for 2 weeks
Unless I get giga juice and push to 1680 fast