The time has come
#lost-ark-discussions
covert remnant
burnt tree
swift tree
revives mb
somber charm
they going back into rotation on the free reward login
fresh flint
oh theyre adding revives to kr tomorrow, OMEGALUL
swift tree
oh theyre adding revives to kr tomorrow, OMEGALUL
we might be getting it as well
covert remnant
Make a recipe for plumes, so we can sell them in market
somber charm
I mean its make deathless titles more rare I guess
swift tree
keep excitement but lower failure pressure.... ONLY TOOK 3 YEARS FOR THAT TO SINK IN
craggy parrot
I’m just happy for the enlightenment potion
fresh flint
we might be getting it as well
well see in 6 hours
craggy parrot
No longer need to push my remaining alts
burnt tree
yes they said theyd add them in HM last stream
swift tree
Hard mode is becoming middle-tier remember
burnt tree
idk why ppl were rolling with "NM only"
catastrophe will replace hard mode as hardest content
frfr ong
swift tree
Normal/Hard/Challenge
covert remnant
Finally the Nerf on t3 dead zone
burnt tree
BYE TRIPODSSSS
swift tree
LOL
steep mortar
If they keep on locking or hard time gating progression to hm they have too imo.
swift tree
Hope amulets for silver
craggy parrot
Mat nerf
burnt tree
hopefully challenge mode will only give cosmetics as exclusives
and not mats n shit
thx
SUPPORT TIME
oh wow
somber charm
lets see what they cooked
past ginkgo
Wait so the entire nerf to NM is one mech in Act 3?
low nebula
delete bard from game
steep mortar
hopefully challenge mode will only give cosmetics as exclusives
This please. Be generous with vanity stuff. Dont make it "mandatory"
burnt tree
This please. Be generous with vanity stuff. Dont make it "mandatory"
yeah the shitty leaderboard badge and some dumb title
thats fine
swift tree
This please. Be generous with vanity stuff. Dont make it "mandatory"
There's some also coming with the generic achievement system too
low nebula
hopefully challenge mode will only give cosmetics as exclusives
on china and here yes i think
fresh flint
stfu
fresh flint
he yaps alot
rocky plume
EOS Support
burnt tree
EOS Support
rocky plume
burnt tree
Make Vora do Brel
rocky plume
Make Vora do Brel
Bus me
swift tree
so nothing really changed
rocky plume
rocky plume
covert remnant
Only trains
burnt tree
i afk in Elnead
fresh flint
You ever get aggravated with your tree cutting partner? 
sharp bluff
so are we picking the pitchforks up or are we going home
past ginkgo
Buffing the support enlightenment tree a lot
burnt tree
KAZEROS CHATTTT
past ginkgo
Actually something I like
swift tree
burnt tree
ONG
fresh flint
such a hot picture
low nebula
:Looking:
somber charm
LOOKS FIRE
somber charm
reveal?
burnt tree
show him
swift tree
reveal?
burnt tree
btchg
past ginkgo
I feel like the fight will have to do something with this abyssal flame
burnt tree
he said they didnt reveal how he looks like
covert remnant
May the kazeros actual form be legendary
somber charm
do it you cowards
meager hill
Kazeros is the god of death sir
isn't he actually the god of order? 
burnt tree
isn't he actually the god of order? <:hmm_pepe:971882729706766396>
death
fresh flint
something about revealing his voice
burnt tree
regulus is of order
swift tree
Gate 1
somber charm
SHEESH
fresh flint
G1 looks fucking fire
fallow marlin
so far i give this live like 6/10 i honestly expected a 1/10
swift tree
Inside (between gates)
low nebula
g2 sheeeesh
fresh flint
swift tree
2 separate dungeons
low nebula
burnt tree
KADAN
somber charm
thats amazing
low nebula
"path to the kazeros"
steep mortar
I m feeling a 4/10 so far. Saving grace being revives and combat analysis.
burnt tree
KAZEROS LOOK REVEAL
somber charm
AINT NO WAY
burnt tree
SHOW HIM
somber charm
SHOW IT
burnt tree
I WONT SIMP
somber charm
DO IT
vocal pollen
fallow marlin
I m feeling a 4/10 so far. Saving grace being revives and combat analysis.
i mean if your not in kr probably makes sense but in kr its about 5/6
somber charm
bro
swift tree
No longer blue/black
vocal pollen
jebaited
burnt tree
RED
somber charm
stop edging me
low nebula
BLUEBALLED
somber charm
OMG
burnt tree
LMFAO
low nebula
burnt tree
WHAT IS THIS
swift tree
past ginkgo
I m feeling a 4/10 so far. Saving grace being revives and combat analysis.
Honestly... even if they add revives
swift tree
Morgoth looking ass
past ginkgo
This won't fix gatekeeping
low nebula
ofc this fucking sauron
covert remnant
That just looks like amped up akkan
steep mortar
This won't fix gatekeeping
No it wont but it makes hw more chill and i run 80% in static.
covert remnant
That's just red akkan
fallow marlin
so far he bought time for loaon summer
burnt tree
foreign famous voice actress
past ginkgo
No it wont but it makes hw more chill and i run 80% in static.
Tbh for the existing players, it's great
But i fear I can forget asking my friends to join the game, it's kinda gg
burnt tree
the true sidereal? 
somber charm
hoepfully its not buggy like thaemine on release
somber charm
theres another one
safe lark
burnt tree
Luttera revive inc
somber charm
my goat
steep mortar
But i fear I can forget asking my friends to join the game, it's kinda gg
Ye gl ever catching up in progression at this stage the 180 on gems sure doesnt help there.
past ginkgo
Ye gl ever catching up in progression at this stage the 180 on gems sure doesnt ...
I mean gotta wait until LOA ON to watch with friends and see if they really improve the new player experience.. otherwise I think we simply forget about Lost Ark for them atleast
Just no point
swift tree
past ginkgo
They would just get gatekept to hell and I don't have the pull power to drag them sadly
somber charm
no rewards but a promise to do better
Wineblue did really good
overall good stream
swift tree
no rewards but a promise to do better
rewards will show up in patch notes
somber charm
clappie
fresh flint
steep mortar
They would just get gatekept to hell and I don't have the pull power to drag the...
We occasionaly take some newer players in our runs but we only have so many slots.
somber charm
subtle cliff
What happened so far in the stream
craggy parrot
Aight back to lpl
somber charm
sharp bluff
so if the bound gems don't have power attached what's the point of actually binding them? just turning them into selectors?
fallow marlin
yes
steep mortar
so if the bound gems don't have power attached what's the point of actually bind...
Pointless.
fallow marlin
and having access to preset
gusty horizon
we are so barack
swift tree
What happened so far in the stream
Director openly said they fucked up the start of Season 3 for Korea, way too monetized, fucked up with Gems. Tried balancing the economy but fumbled it. Showed Kazeros artwork for Act 4. Season 3 / Tier 4 will move onto more exploration/different endgame afterwards.
Korea is getting all the same stuff as CN and Us just in adjusted forms.
Not much in the way of solutions but it involved making honing easier, gems easier to get, difficulty rebalanced
sharp bluff
yeah that's cool then
sharp bluff
I'm chill
fallow marlin
Director openly said they fucked up the start of Season 3 for Korea, way too mon...
battle report
lunar hedge
craggy parrot
Did he have anymore gem changes
past ginkgo
We occasionaly take some newer players in our runs but we only have so many slot...
Yeah I think this catchphrase some people say is simply true, I can't even deny it anymore myself
"This game isn't for you."
craggy parrot
I was driving to work when he was talking about them
somber charm
they increased the lock, but took away power bonus
craggy parrot
Why lock then
subtle cliff
Director openly said they fucked up the start of Season 3 for Korea, way too mon...
Lsave...?
swift tree
The whole Exploratory part seems like we might end up getting a chill period of game like between Tier 2 and Tier 3, where they spent a year adding islands and continents
Adding a new ocean etc.
fresh flint
i wouldnt mind some new islands
swift tree
<:CAUGHT:1333045049860292628>
first 40 mins is just him saying how they fucked up, and how they're aiming to fix it
fallow marlin
The whole Exploratory part seems like we might end up getting a chill period of ...
the last part he said kazeros will be the last time we will have the current raid legion commander system
steep mortar
Yeah I think this catchphrase some people say is simply true, I can't even deny ...
I mean i run into that problem regularly and thats okay. Like Expedition 33 that everyone hypes was not good enough for me to not refund it. Its a great Game, but no fit for me.
swift tree
the last part he said kazeros will be the last time we will have the current rai...
Last of the Kazeros Raid / KLC system yeah
sullen meteor
Kazeros looks sick
wind dagger
I've heard Kazeros finally revealed
swift tree
remember they had Abyss Dungeons / Abyss Raids beforehand
gusty horizon
I've heard Kazeros finally revealed
looks epic
swift tree
I've heard Kazeros finally revealed
fallow marlin
i guess they will hard turn to easy/casual with a few extremely hard modes after kazeros
swift tree
Game is getting more casual after Kazeros
past ginkgo
I mean personally I think it's great if you are an active player, veteran or atleast a returner like me who hasn't been inactive too long
wind dagger
Looks sick tho
fallow marlin
makes sense mmos nowadays needs to be casual
wind dagger
sullen meteor
g4 he goes naked
past ginkgo
But new players, they should maybe stick to something else
sullen meteor
swift tree
g4 he goes naked
you joke but Thaemine literally did that
subtle cliff
Wait is this fr
sullen meteor
I'm not joking
fresh flint
ok then where is his cock
sullen meteor
storm bronze
fresh flint
show me thae cock
sullen meteor
Wait is this fr
yeah that's the G3 boss
fallow marlin
this game choose hard mode with the gear system having no downgrades
subtle cliff
swift tree
I'm not joking
fallow marlin
all this shit would have been avoided if gear just blew up
sullen meteor
even g1 and g2 look sick as fuck
fallow marlin
steep mortar
But new players, they should maybe stick to something else
Unless youd get some insane start up event that giga amps like the first character you create its rough to get going.
sullen meteor
they showed the fighting area for them
fresh flint
where pebis
swift tree
We have gameplay of kazeros?
concept art
sullen meteor
concept art
wind dagger
subtle cliff
sensory overload 
fresh flint
sensory overload <a:AAAaaaAAAaaa:1336314523321110578>
pebis
storm bronze
<:HUH:1012917714706235472>
You still play that game 
past ginkgo
Unless youd get some insane start up event that giga amps like the first charact...
Tbh even if you get this giga boost... there is so many more factors you have to count in... I think Lost Ark will never be a more casual game. That train has long left.
wind dagger
Waiting for new hair tomorrow
past ginkgo
So better to keep the niche happy
storm bronze
Barely login
Only 10h instead of 16h a day
swift tree
where pebis
under the loin cloth, but thighs, abs and pecs are all on display in G4
fresh flint
under the loin cloth, but thighs, abs and pecs are all on display in G4
I see no coca I am sad
fallow marlin
@swift tree btw support change will happen this summer and the power curve will stabilize around winter
swift tree
<@113554204676685824> btw support change will happen this summer and the power c...
summer too, winter was a mispeak
fallow marlin
yes
gusty horizon
swift tree
tl;dr Paladin launch in Sumer w/ support changes (July/Aug) tweaked into Sep/Oct
wind dagger
Only 10h instead of 16h a day <:KEKW:834726120606924850>
Nah, I barely login man
swift tree
Okay I want patch notes
Deadzone changes
fresh flint
wind dagger
Twice a week maybe
swift tree
cope is RU notes go up
fallow marlin
i think i heard support skill ups will increase effect
past ginkgo
This game will never be casual... but maybe this isn't a bad thing at all.
sand flare
subtle cliff
I will defeat you Kazeros....
sand flare
fresh flint
Deadzone changes
Bro don’t get my fuckin hopes up
swift tree
Sigmund is a worshipper of death, it makes sense
sand flare
Tell me it's not 90% same
fresh flint
If dead zone isn’t in this patch I’m blaming you bara
storm bronze
Sigmunddeez
swift tree
Fun fact, Kazeros, Vairgrys and Sigmund have same VO in both KR and Global
subtle cliff
I will defeat you Kazeros.... <a:AAAaaaAAAaaa:1336314523321110578>
Then I will marry Ren and live happily ever after (Eos) 
swift tree
I will defeat you Kazeros.... <a:AAAaaaAAAaaa:1336314523321110578>
His Antares form was sexier
sand flare
Fun fact, Kazeros, Vairgrys and Sigmund have same VO in both KR and Global
You mean same VA?
swift tree
You mean same VA?
voice over / voice actor yeah
sand flare
gusty horizon
Then I will marry Ren and live happily ever after (Eos) <a:owojam:13146751202703...
this dude too deep in the roleplay
i respect it 
swift tree
<:Susge:1065387133990355014>
not the same person between KR and Global, but that the npcs are both grouped as a single voice
@subtle cliff Also dps breakdown being added
sand flare
subtle cliff
swift tree
<:gatowtf:1353683359989235733>
Power score + Combat Analysis
self meter, not a raid team one
storm bronze
Any kazeros reclear here
swift tree
Any kazeros reclear here
solo echidna counts lol
fallow marlin
Power score + Combat Analysis
just adding CA gives them so much time
like i said this stream gave them time for summer loaon
storm bronze
solo echidna counts lol
fallow marlin
and that was the goal it seems
swift tree
W
swift tree
<:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
Kazeros Raid clear
storm bronze
fallow marlin
will make gem value less and less
which gives them an excuse to get rid of it i guess
somber charm
thats good yes?
fallow marlin
yes and no
storm bronze
Better gems or I quit fr
swift tree
they're also sunsetting tripods, added to a vendor for silver cost
you can just buy your tripods for free now
somber charm
at least same class rosters dont get fucked any more
fallow marlin
its eh i dont know
somber charm
glad tripod levels are getting kicked
dusty linden
so whats going on with the gems
storm bronze
Why do the average recipe websites have more ads than the most sketchy porn websites
swift tree
Why do the average recipe websites have more ads than the most sketchy porn webs...
personal data farming
fallow marlin
so whats going on with the gems
they removed the atk bonus and cd increased to 10 days
so binding is only for the selector
subtle cliff
swift tree
<:WeirdgaP:979153857634521088>
binding is only for the mass preset benefit
storm bronze
personal data farming
Everybody does why them so cancerous
strange sierra
Did they add butt and boob slider or not?
fallow marlin
when they move to UE5
swift tree
Did they add butt and boob slider or not?
they added horny vo to fem paladin
subtle cliff
swift tree
when they move to UE5
never, it's literally more efficient to improve their version of UE3
tranquil shore
Anyone know the kr reaction
subtle cliff
I've never played support
burnt tree
when they move to UE5
which slider ull max tho
subtle cliff
Maybe it's time...
swift tree
Anyone know the kr reaction
mixed
fallow marlin
never, it's literally more efficient to improve their version of UE3
i mean the only way for them to add sliders is with a engine change
fallow marlin
Anyone know the kr reaction
half half
burnt tree
they also need to adjust every single skin/armor
subtle cliff
Thigh jiggle physics
burnt tree
to fit every slider option
subtle cliff
burnt tree
altho that can be automated i guess
swift tree
i mean the only way for them to add sliders is with a engine change
lack of sliders isn't a be all / end all for the game
fallow marlin
So half the people are still kinda mad
dude this stream was a success when everyboy being mad
and its only half now
fallow marlin
the whole point of this stream
wasnt to make some god move
and change the whole game
its too buy time
subtle cliff
fallow marlin
and honestly think they kind of did
burnt tree
relic engraving selector, card pack, pet
past ginkgo
Atleast they reverted the power change when binding gems
stable prairie
probably because gem change does nothing, people gonna carry on sharing gems and 6 class rosters continue to get fucked while 1 class rosters keep enjoying their benefits
burnt tree
reskin ticket ong
past ginkgo
I wouldn't say it was for nothing
steep mortar
dude this stream was a success when everyboy being mad
Well im personally underwhelmed where id call it a miss.
surreal gyro
oh here we go again xD
surreal gyro
whats half half about it
the director said it at the beggining we cant make a change that will please everyone
uncut dirge
Is SG stupid?
surreal gyro
the stream was good
burnt tree
but it also wasnt "wahoo hats off"
fallow marlin
the stream was good
i wouldnt say good but touched the bar needed
to not let the game eos
surreal gyro
they talked about the pain points and presented data and solutions
past ginkgo
The stream for me was atleast insurance they gonna fix some things so I have a better time
surreal gyro
and the more big stuff will be showcased in LOAON
past ginkgo
But getting friends into this game, nah I give up.
surreal gyro
after paradise it will be fine
i honestly hate this community they think that 1 stream will announce a complete game overhaul with UE5
delulu
storm bronze
uncut dirge
Actually no, before I say that I got to watch the thing myself
surreal gyro
it was a W stream
him removing the AP gain on gems and adding solo dps meter
is a massive change
fallow marlin
its a E stream
surreal gyro
compared to their stance beforehand
gusty horizon
definetly a good stream
uncut dirge
I guess I'll just ask
sly junco
him removing the AP gain on gems and adding solo dps meter
I came late to the stream is both coming?
fallow marlin
they finally caved
loud wing
This guy has to issue an apologize every other stream, they’re just trying to test the limit.
steep mortar
Ye well as a multiclasser the gem change is just a L. The rest was fine.
past ginkgo
Hope they make it good, then I just delete the meter tbh
uncut dirge
1600-1620 honing nerf is just -50% mats, but not gold?
swift tree
From a W to L on the keyboard, it's like a R/T/G
strange sierra
dude this stream was a success when everyboy being mad
Not really, if anything this stream only proves most of the negative audience that they intentionally allowed the game to get in to a shit state just for extra bucks and the damage has been done already
Hard to tell they can salvage anything with s2 remaining, maybe with s3 its a new chance but will see
surreal gyro
I came late to the stream is both coming?
yes
somber charm
now we get ags patch notes later today
surreal gyro
1600-1620 honing nerf is just -50% mats, but not gold?
no they said at least 50% nerf but 50% up on success chance
swift tree
now we get ags patch notes later today
in 5 hours
somber charm
ye ye
storm bronze
Feel free to tag arna for early patch notes
swift tree
@wintry depot Tell RU to drop their patch notes
past ginkgo
but combat analysis
How is T3 activity in Korea?
somber charm
hopefully new hairstyles for the our version and I am happy
sly junco
yes
But only the AP on the new Bound Gem sytem not on T4 gems overall and the other change with presets for gems and free switching stays?
swift tree
How is T3 activity in Korea?
dead
burnt tree
dead
past ginkgo
You guys don't play korea shuuuush
storm bronze
T3
somber charm
dont characters start in t3 in kr
storm bronze
swift tree
dont characters start in t3 in kr
yes, but they don't make new characters
somber charm
they dont have to do the beginning of the game at all?
swift tree
outside of events
surreal gyro
But only the AP on the new Bound Gem sytem not on T4 gems overall and the other ...
the new gem system will be as we know it, but they wont have the AP% gain bonus and you will be able to unlock them after 15 days instead of 7, everything else will be the same
burnt tree
RU getting allat for free 
sharp bluff
oo chest with peels
swift tree
RU getting allat for free <a:Saddies:1144834528419004577>
This is only stuff actually useful for us
fallow marlin
RU getting allat for free <a:Saddies:1144834528419004577>
all 20 of them
swift tree
outside of reskin ticket
fallow marlin
honestly think gems will lose value gradually and they will get rid of it like tripod
storm bronze
Time to reinstall 
burnt tree
yeah probably
steep mortar
But only the AP on the new Bound Gem sytem not on T4 gems overall and the other ...
The locking system will be irrelevant very soon unless you want to swap specs on the fly,since cd and dmg will be very close to the same price soon. Why lock gems if it doesnt matter which one you buy gold wise...
burnt tree
honestly think gems will lose value gradually and they will get rid of it like t...
they can just bake the power bonus from gems into characters anyway
swift tree
Time to reinstall <:artistSadge:1318013863014436944>
JAILED
desert iron
RU getting allat for free <a:Saddies:1144834528419004577>
wait RU got patch note?
tranquil shore
I wonder if gems will get another change
burnt tree
wait RU got patch note?
not yet
burnt tree
they just posted they are getting a gift pack
probably cause new region
so get loot
swift tree
probably cause new region
yup, we'll get something similar
burnt tree
aye
storm bronze
because you're no longer free
I shouldn't reinstall ?
somber charm
I wonder if gems will get another change
I doubt it, not after this debacle, maybe slightly adjusted but nothing huge
surreal gyro
seasonal reset?
it is
gilded star
Any TL;DR of the KR stream?
fresh flint
Ru notes dropped?
somber charm
iven would burn down if we got roster wide gems and they didnt
past ginkgo
Get me unbanned and I happily approve
tranquil shore
I doubt it, not after this debacle, maybe slightly adjusted but nothing huge
I think they just needed to increase the drop rate of gem honestly
fallow marlin
i can predict next year gems will be roster or removed entirely
this patch just devalues gems really hard
steep mortar
I dont quite get why folks are so upsetty about not being able to max out every system immediately. Like what are you working towards then? Slowly upgrading gems or what not beats out 0.3% honing chances for me and the gem is more flexible since its not tied to the char.
storm bronze
cuz it's a fomo game ?
surreal gyro
I dont quite get why folks are so upsetty about not being able to max out every ...
thats a loud minority people just meme and doom for attention
all of the people i play with were happy with the changes
swift tree
RNG pack from logging in
somber charm
Any TL;DR of the KR stream?
this is saints summary
past ginkgo
I hate when people keep bringing up the "doom" argument when someone doesn't like something
Legit, you can't talk reasonably with people like that
Next time you say you want it easier for new players
"SHUT UP YOU DOOMER"
surreal gyro
I hate when people keep bringing up the "doom" argument when someone doesn't lik...
but it is when there is objectively a good outcome from a stream and people nitpick everything and change their opinnion 180 just to bash on the game
thats why we get western changes also which intentions are u talking about?
somber charm
Good luck
past ginkgo
If you want to see a real doomer you go on Reddit
surreal gyro
yes it is idk if u read reddit when they initially announced the gem changes
they also announced the challenge mode
for hardcore players
its not
most current events give a set of very legit gems
fresh flint
I’d say #1 barrier is orehas
surreal gyro
the barrier is progressing outside of an event and facing gatekeeping
lone spear
Gems are a static resource, therefore its not much of a barrier
surreal gyro
it dpends on what im doing
if they gave lvl 9 event gems u would still not accept them
storm bronze
number one barriere is to find the game exist in the first place
swift tree
Barrier is everything being tied to gold, which requires you doing raids, which requires you being geared, which requires gold.
steep mortar
most current events give a set of very legit gems
You try that when one class andies gatekeep for 8s in Nm Brel and Hm Aegir.
surreal gyro
thats why they are nerfing NM even more
yes i had this happen
and thats why i think that the initial version of the gem change was overall better
but i got shittalked on here for it
but if majority of the community prefers the new version its fine by me
steep mortar
and thats why i think that the initial version of the gem change was overall bet...
Dont you worry me too. But id still stand my ground.
surreal gyro
nothing will solve the gem issue cause its too late already
they literally talked about this
at the start of the stream
lavish dome
this game is very unfair if you play 6 diff chars. director knew this but still decided to let this continue anyway. now previously complainers will applaud this because their mirrored rosters are now safe...
surreal gyro
a lot of people in the west play more than 1 of the same classes so yes while we are not KR the gem change they announced is still better than what it was
rough ermine
it's literally unfair by design to encourage swiping
surreal gyro
for the majority of players
lone spear
"Gathering of fresh oysters failed due to lack of experience"
steep mortar
Actually makes it rough for new players too. If i fuse all my gems id have a Set of full 9s with like 4 10s.
surreal gyro
i can settle with whats better for the gfames future
if they didnt make the gem change you would not complain but someonee else would be here yapping
steep mortar
Tbf i dont know the solution either.
surreal gyro
why does it matter?
as long as content is not balanced around it why does it matter
no im serious
somber charm
Before t4 did most people have a full set of 10’s?
fresh flint
holy COCKS
strange sierra
Most average end game player is full 8's with maybe couple of 9's for their mains
past ginkgo
Before t4 did most people have a full set of 10’s?
No but my main had full level 9s and my alts had full level 8s
👍
queen grail
So, what's the TL:DR full stream? @burnt tree
surreal gyro
No but my main had full level 9s and my alts had full level 8s
yes but when? literally at the end of the season
past ginkgo
yes but when? literally at the end of the season
Akkan.
somber charm
No but my main had full level 9s and my alts had full level 8s
From experience did you ever get gatekept to your knowing for that reason
surreal gyro
and even if u did, majority of the playerbase didnt
queen grail
Most average end game player is full 8's with maybe couple of 9's for their main...
Njaa, average 
a bit over average, and you slap a few 9's in there and It's even less
rough ermine
looking forward to people wanting chaos dungeons to be limited to 6 char per day, otherwise people with big rosters get an unfair advantage
burnt tree
So, what's the TL:DR full stream? <@888771554631118849>
seggs
past ginkgo
From experience did you ever get gatekept to your knowing for that reason
No but I tell you my main gatekeep reason when I was still a active veteran in T3... was engravings AND gems.
wind dagger
swift tree
looking forward to people wanting chaos dungeons to be limited to 6 char per day...
people paid for extra character slots, don't have to pay anything to switch gems between same classes ngl
steep mortar
No but my main had full level 9s and my alts had full level 8s
My Main Had full 9s with DMG on 10 and my alts had full 9s😆
rough ermine
and people can just pay for higher level gems to avoid being gatekept
surreal gyro
and that will increase gatekeeping and people will complain it blocks all new players
rough ermine
point is there will always be gatekeeping, it's the same in any game
even the super nerfed normal raids will be gatekept
surreal gyro
they will increase supply overtime, as they did back in T3
past ginkgo
My Main Had full 9s with DMG on 10 and my alts had full 9s😆
Yeah people act like it was that hard to make gems in Tier 3
surreal gyro
Yeah people act like it was that hard to make gems in Tier 3
it only became easy at the END of T3
stop comparing
early T4 to late T3
surreal gyro
and u dont have that now?
past ginkgo
and u dont have that now?
No.
surreal gyro
ok right xD
somber charm
What is current PF guidelines for gems right now, and is it realistic? Like do people expect 1700’s to have full 8’s, 9’s? Or are 7’s acceptable?
surreal gyro
What is current PF guidelines for gems right now, and is it realistic? Like do p...
8s
steep mortar
Ye thats a good angle. Still cant believe a 1600 chaos dungeon has better gem value than a 1640 on average... What the hell were they thinking?
surreal gyro
for end game
surreal gyro
My main has full level 7s from turning, and alts have 6/7s
how does ur main have only lvl 7s when u had full 8s in Akkan release
past ginkgo
how does ur main have only lvl 7s when u had full 8s in Akkan release
You know that full level 9s in T3 turn into T4 level 7s right?
surreal gyro
You know that full level 9s in T3 turn into T4 level 7s right?
so u didnt upgrade your gems since Akkan release, whose fault is that
steep mortar
What is current PF guidelines for gems right now, and is it realistic? Like do p...
Id say full 8s at least for Mordum will be the expectation.
past ginkgo
Sorry I had to spend millions on elixirs and transcendence
My bad, next time I swipe 2k
surreal gyro
Sorry I had to spend millions on elixirs and transcendence
i had too, but i bought my lvl 10 T3s ad the end of T3 - start of T4
storm bronze
is it a good time to comeback to lost ark
burnt tree
damn how did Antares go from this to that
past ginkgo
is it a good time to comeback to lost ark
If you haven't been gone for long, sure
storm bronze
If you haven't been gone for long, sure
rough ermine
what dying and spending hundreds of years in the abyss does to a motherfucker
surreal gyro
is it a good time to comeback to lost ark
if u havent played in a longgg time wait for the summer to come back when the big changes will come
storm bronze
what's long
surreal gyro
what's long
1 year +
storm bronze
3 bananes ?
swift tree
damn how did Antares go from this to that
Getting smacked by Regulus so hard
past ginkgo
tbh they will probably delete the gem system at some point <:KEKDog:101727764283...
Tbh at this point, this would be the best solution
And like Soda said, will probably happen anyways
steep mortar
The average endgame player will have full 9s id say. The average Lost Ark player half 8s half 9s probably.
surreal gyro
The average endgame player will have full 9s id say. The average Lost Ark player...
nah average player still has lvl8s
rough ermine
i returned a few weeks before wildsoul release, and i have a single level 7 t4 gem (without converting any t3)
burnt tree
as an average player i wanna have lvl 8s not 9s and 10s
storm bronze
if vora managed to get esther 9 f2p the game isn't so bad
past ginkgo
nah average player still has lvl8s
If you think the average player has full level 8s yeah nah
Max delulu
surreal gyro
If you think the average player has full level 8s yeah nah
wdym i still play everyday most people i see have full 8s why would u go to lvl9s
steep mortar
nah average player still has lvl8s
There is a whole lotta more endgame than non endgame players from what i see.
queen grail
If you think the average player has full level 8s yeah nah
I know some people that are like 8k+ hours played since Valtan days and still their main is not full 8
somber charm
only for them to add another system
This, I mean you can’t put a gem on your t skill and look how strong that is by itself
steep mortar
Same over a year ago at this point.
surreal gyro
i got banned for saying i identify as a unicorn
past ginkgo
yall got banned over criticism i got banned for typing "exactly"
I got banned for LOL responds well
Can someone tell Roxx to go revert nonsense Shadowmaiden bans? Thank you.
steep mortar
This
swift tree
damn how did Antares go from this to that
White hair on the new one
past ginkgo
How to give feedback when this ex employee banned half the community over her period
tulip charm
my feedback is the new gem system because a huge nothing burger
swift tree
How to give feedback when this ex employee banned half the community over her pe...
ikr
wind dagger
tulip charm
if we get the latest changes in our region for act3 raids, would be nice, but if we don't get it, its whatevers
past ginkgo
Well we had the forums at one point but that is gone
queen grail
"They want relic books to be rare"
Yea but motherducker they never fking drop and you need 20 per engraving to be done
burnt tree
which give the same effects as tradeable lvl 7s
so acting like lvl 7 event gems are a cardinal sin is delulu
steep mortar
I got banned for telling a moderator that i disagree with him deleting posta. And no there was no slurs or indecent stuff involved
past ginkgo
I got banned for telling a moderator that i disagree with him deleting posta. An...
And it probably was ShieldMaiden too
burnt tree
since some ppl see a lvl 7 event gem and act like the world ended
burnt tree
And it probably was ShieldMaiden too
she banned like 80% of the ppl in there
queen grail
I got banned for telling a moderator that i disagree with him deleting posta. An...
Almost like a lot of Mod's are cringe af, just look at reddit.
past ginkgo
I mean I get when they ban people harassing around, but they ban people for simply disgareeing with them.
It's like an echo chamber
queen grail
I got perma-banned for saying "Is that not a bit disingenuous" to someone who voted in Eurovision when he didn't even Watch just to support the country irrelevant of if the song was good 
Like wth @steep mortar
fresh flint
Are they increasing supply?
meager hill
it will lower gem market prices
steep mortar
And it probably was ShieldMaiden too
No it was someone with a Car as an Icon. I forgot the name
steep mortar
I got perma-banned for saying "Is that not a bit disingenuous" to someone who v...
Wtf
queen grail
Wtf<:KEKW:834726120606924850>
I mean, some mod's are just ultra wonkey idiots.
burnt tree
or mods who dont understand what ure talking about and take action regardless
and u cant even talk about it cause "its ur word against mine"
past ginkgo
Yeah there is no way to leave feedback, they ban most people over the most idiotic reasons
burnt tree
like am i responsible for a mod being an illiterate?
somber charm
Yikes
past ginkgo
The only thing you can really do when you join there is either shut up the entire time or crawl up their ass
Sorry to word it that hard.
swift tree
like am i responsible for a mod being an illiterate? <:deadge:104674873480709333...
Yes
burnt tree
dont give power to people who are scared to ask for clarification
tulip charm
holy quality
swift tree
at least make my 100 quality worth something
burnt tree
if ppl cant understand something not being adressed to them is not my problem
just dm me and ask me to clarify b4 u act like an arrogant teenager
past ginkgo
You know there is some things I don't understand with accs
Why can a 70 quality acc have more stats than a 95 acc
How does that make sense huh
swift tree
Why can a 70 quality acc have more stats than a 95 acc
it doesn't, the stats are split different
past ginkgo
Not the things you roll though
burnt tree
Hi Astraea
swift tree
some have higher HP others have higher Main
past ginkgo
But the base stats
swift tree
But the base stats
Yes
sullen meteor
notes today
swift tree
notes today <:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
notes in 4 hours
fresh flint
notes today <:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
lone spear
W-
queen grail
"People started to not like doing raids with no support"
YE NO SHIT BUDDY
lone spear
Hi Astraea
Do I know you?
queen grail
what the
burnt tree
Do I know you?
idk
swift tree
"People started to not like doing raids with no support"
YE NO SHIT BUDDY
"turns out they make up 1/3 of all party damage" HUH
burnt tree
Time to get coffee gonna check inven hell after
queen grail
"turns out they make up 1/3 of all party damage" HUH
Turns out doing raids with no mana, slow from no yearning and no shields is BORING 
steep mortar
"People started to not like doing raids with no support"
YE NO SHIT BUDDY
When shit got really bad after wildsoul release i ran a couple supportless Aegir nm. Holy shit is G1 worse than G2 that way.
swift tree
surely you mean half
1/2 is the overgeared ones, 1/4 is the shitty ones, 1/3 is the average out
queen grail
When shit got really bad after wildsoul release i ran a couple supportless Aegir...
Any raids with no support is just hella trash maybe It's ok for 1 grp in Behemoth since the rest will just carry but still
swift tree
Turns out doing raids with no mana, slow from no yearning and no shields is BORI...
also pigeon hole everyone into raid captain because of the support buffs
steep mortar
Any raids with no support is just hella trash <:Despairge:1001023262404386866> m...
I mean ye. It was just the realization how much more dmg Akkan deals than Aegir without dr and shields😆
meager hill
why are you talking about pigeons and their holes?
queen grail
fresh flint
fresh flint
Mordum
fresh flint
burnt tree
some sick scene of kadan walking up some stairs
teal thistle
burnt tree
and Kazeros
lone spear
I wonder if we'll get resolution on what Kharmine and/or Kakul wants
burnt tree
I wonder if we'll get resolution on what Kharmine and/or Kakul wants
they are probably setup for Act 2 or 3
queen grail
also pigeon hole everyone into raid captain because of the support buffs
I mean, watch them make sup so "bad" that they aren't req for raids now 
smh If they do
burnt tree
so far every1 wants the ark to be used and for Kazeros to die
burnt tree
u asked
fresh flint
burnt tree
i didnt say what he did or said
burnt tree
WHAT THE FRICK SATHONA
fresh flint
lone spear
i need to know what kakuls deal is
My guess is that he wants true chaos, since he exitsed before Kazeros did
burnt tree
now u got somehing to look forward to
fresh flint
My guess is that he wants true chaos, since he exitsed before Kazeros did
Idk clown seems like the dumbass that just likes to start shit and play games like a trickster would
lone spear
He did escape Kharmine absorbing him
fresh flint
burnt tree
Kharmine already knew hed survive
lone spear
Unlike Valtan
burnt tree
Kharmine is aware of Kakul Saydons nature
as is Kakul Saydon about Kharmine being fragmented Zosma
past ginkgo
That is Kazeros?
burnt tree
That is Kazeros?
yea
tiny grove
any1 knows if we are getting the balance changes as well along with rimeria?
fresh flint
I fr hope someone kills kharmine soon cus he just annoying atp
past ginkgo
Idk man
burnt tree
I fr hope someone kills kharmine soon cus he just annoying atp
lol what
queen grail
That is Kazeros?
It's @fresh flint's boyfriend.
lone spear
Also Valecio or whatever
sharp bluff
im gunna kidnap him and put him in my basement
burnt tree
hes like one of the best characters atp
fresh flint
He likes the badboy's
lone spear
The twilight priest dude, what is his goal
burnt tree
Also Valecio or whatever
Valicio waits for the Ark to be used like every1 else xd
past ginkgo
Why is Thaemine looking more like a final boss than Kazeros
fresh flint
wut
teal thistle
Why is Thaemine looking more like a final boss than Kazeros
Thats not true
burnt tree
Why is Thaemine looking more like a final boss than Kazeros
untrue
queen grail
Why is Thaemine looking more like a final boss than Kazeros
Fake
fresh flint
and go do your cn raid
queen grail
Why don't you MARRY him then if you think he looks so good 
fresh flint
i am
teal thistle
Theamine looks generic, Kazeros looks like a god
fresh flint
and ur coping
burnt tree
yeah he doesnt look as cool as Kazeros
fresh flint
past ginkgo
thaemine looks better cus ur biased to the raid
I'm not even playing CN what
Yapping
past ginkgo
Still yapping
lone spear
I dunno, I like Kazeros design, he looks like someone who would be associated with death and not just another dude in armor
teal thistle
Bro kazeros looks literally like a god, thamine looks like a god's strongest servant
fresh flint
^
burnt tree
?
fresh flint
you are old
teal thistle
Inb4 Kazeros is Theamine's dad
fresh flint
yeah, something like 2mil year old primordial being and all
meager hill
don't be mean guys, he's only an eternity years old
fresh flint
tf u mean dad
omg its giving zeus eating his babies vibes
teal thistle
Kazeros literally killed Thaemines original self
WOW SPOILERS
lone spear
Isnt Thaemine speculated to be a Haal like Kadan?
burnt tree
WOW SPOILERS
thats not a secret
Luttera recites the battle in the Abyss
fkin dumbass
teal thistle
Imagine reading on a MMO
past ginkgo
Inb4 Kazeros is Theamine's dad
Erm... about that.
burnt tree
Lost Ark isnt an MMO
fresh flint
the violence in the club is astronomical tonight
burnt tree
its just a raid simulator with good story
lone spear
So if Kazeros is Antares, he is literally Thaemine's daddy
past ginkgo
Isnt Thaemine speculated to be a Haal like Kadan?
Kharmine cough
fallow marlin
its just a raid simulator with good story
🧢
burnt tree
Kadan is a Haal
burnt tree
Kharmine and Thaemine are Zosmas fragmented soul
past ginkgo
Oh yes
sharp bluff
oh since im home i can send these - lol
fallow marlin
SHIFT G GANG
burnt tree
Zosma exists since forever like regulus 💀
fallow marlin
broken lava
Zosma is the counter part to regulus
fresh flint
✍️
burnt tree
Zosma is the god of chaos, Regulus is the god of order
lone spear
Why tf does he look like Kadan then
fresh flint
oh ok yin yang type shit
past ginkgo
Thaemine and Kharmine have something in common and has basically to do with Zosma
burnt tree
Kazeros was born into the abyss and defeated a weakened Zosma
fresh flint
YIN YANG POG
teal thistle
Zosma is the god of chaos, Regulus is the god of order
Whos stronger tho, Zosma, Regulus or Kazeros
burnt tree
Probably Regulus > Zosma > Kazeros
burnt tree
but Kazeros is stronger than a weakened Zosma
teal thistle
Goku is mutliversal
Bro Gojo could beat goku with a single hit
burnt tree
Gojo aint beatting even Kid Goku
teal thistle
Probably Regulus > Zosma > Kazeros
So regulus is the real last boss
burnt tree
So regulus is the real last boss
who knows
past ginkgo
I could see that happening somehow
teal thistle
Gojo aint beatting even Kid Goku
Bro even piccolo killed goku come on LMAO
lone spear
Listen man, I like smoking weed too
burnt tree
he already left the universe according to Kharmine
teal thistle
Even raddits
lone spear
But you smoked yourself stupid
teal thistle
Killed goku
burnt tree
Bro even piccolo killed goku come on LMAO
gojo overrated
burnt tree
Even raddits
he didnt
tulip charm
stream it!!!!!
past ginkgo
he already left the universe according to Kharmine
They can always pull a plot twist
burnt tree
piccolos beam killed him
teal thistle
<a:aminjihmm:1055316872607834174> gojo overrated
Are you telling me gojo is weaker than piccolo?
teal thistle
NOWAY
lone spear
Can Gojo blow up the moon?
burnt tree
DB characters can blow past gojos infinity
teal thistle
Can Gojo blow up the moon?
Yes
fresh flint
past ginkgo
People are really debating someone is stronger than Goku...
teal thistle
People are really debating someone is stronger than Goku...
This is an important topic
teal thistle
i misunderstood the gem changes
Gem system is okay now
past ginkgo
Goku can just blow the entire planet away with one beam, it's not even a debate
uncut dirge
sad that they didn't fix the deadzone
lone spear
I think Gojo could beat kid goku when his grandpa was still alive.
uncut dirge
i was looking forward to the deadzone being fixed
lone spear
Anyone else, Gojo is gogone
teal thistle
i was looking forward to the deadzone being fixed
Didn't they say they are nerfing honing tho?
burnt tree
"- Classes that are underperforming because the current raid structure does not fit with their kits." Ne buff on god
past ginkgo
But wait... in a moment people bring up Saitama
uncut dirge
Didn't they say they are nerfing honing tho?
yes, but unless i missed something it's nowhere near enough i think
burnt tree
But wait... in a moment people bring up Saitama
Saitama is a gag character
uncut dirge
"- Classes that are underperforming because the current raid structure does not ...
FMH buff
burnt tree
so is Arale in dragon ball
past ginkgo
Which makes absolutely no fucking sense since Saitama is literally a comic gag like character
past ginkgo
Saitama is a gag character
this pretty much
Goku is like the strongest shonen character ever, there is no debate
lone spear
Saitami is like the anime version of cartoon force
teal thistle
Yamcha can kill itadori tho?
past ginkgo
Anytime someone brings up XY shonen character can beat Goku, it's some clowns man
uncut dirge
i stood in like 5 attacks in a row and gained like 20% meter maybe
past ginkgo
Goku flies up into air, one beam, destroys planet
uncut dirge
attacks you completely dodge with ease normally
past ginkgo
Boom battle finished.
lone spear
attacks you completely dodge with ease normally
Your best meter generation is standing the ball aoes
uncut dirge
yeah i noticed that afterwards
lone spear
and then when the mario mech comes up, get hit by the flame to finally transform you
teal thistle
Goku flies up into air, one beam, destroys planet
Gojo teleports behind goku and fk him
Kamehameha takes a lot of time to charge
Enough time for gojo to kill him
uncut dirge
i was like "boss is doing birds im missing 20% meter, this is easy"
teal thistle
past ginkgo
How should he teleport to him when he is in space?
uncut dirge
then i tanked full birds andn nothing happened
past ginkgo
Guy would die suffocating in space
teal thistle
How should he teleport to him when he is in space?
He just do it cuz he is op
lone spear
This man has clearly not seen the Cell Saga
uncut dirge
i wish movies did dying in vacuum of space properly
uncut dirge
we have space ships no?
uncut dirge
just send them to space
fresh flint
?
past ginkgo
This man has clearly not seen the Cell Saga
I did and Gohan was stronger than Goku at that time xd
uncut dirge
it's a sacrifice i'm willing to make
teal thistle
This man has clearly not seen the Cell Saga
I saw it, goku died again there
He keeps dying
uncut dirge
@fresh flintok im joking
teal thistle
fresh flint
divine intervention ass mf
uncut dirge
but essentially you'd die because your lungs would explode
teal thistle
divine intervention ass mf
Plot armor
Unlike
Other characters
From other animes
uncut dirge
because they would explosively decompress
teal thistle
I wotn say the name
fresh flint
plot armor? god armor.
uncut dirge
that might not kill you, but it's basically the last thing that happens before you black out
teal thistle
0 character development, 0 plot
uncut dirge
because your skin is intended to resist the crushing weight of an atmosphere
fresh flint
oh and you balloon up
like that blueberry bitch in willy wonka
uncut dirge
without it it would just expand a bit
which is also kind of funny
there are proposals for space suits that are basically just a helmet
and then elastic clothing that would stop your body from expanding
fresh flint
i know u just sitting there like 'what the fuck is these people saying'
uncut dirge
i know u just sitting there like 'what the fuck is these people saying'
deathboi is chinese
fresh flint
also can they tell your name is google translate im curious
no, he bald but not chinese
wintry depot
<@212378747293270026> Tell RU to drop their patch notes
No
wintry depot
Aaaaaaaaaa