#lost-ark-discussions
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How hard is this game, compared to say, SWTOR?
I live far west, but play on NA-E, I get less than 100 ping most of the time
I did some Nightmare Raids on that
Okay, so If I live in utah I should have under that
I am having raiding in mind too eventually
i play euc from nae with 110ms, its very fine
I'm the state over, so yea
any that you think sounds fun
you play from NA in EU? om
yeah
anything but vairgrys
yeah
?
as long as its stable
again, any that you think sounds fun
i guess reaper shouldnt be a good idea also
don't meta chase
you have to test them

I'm not too picky. I played a lot of Ranged in SWTOR though
so uhm, what are you trying to get out of the class of your choice as preference
So I'm thinking mage?
or watch some gameplay videos
so you want ranged
ok so
just something to know
even if youre technically a ranged class, usually its better to play melee or mid range on lost ark
easier to dodge on bosses
just because it looks cool doesnt mean its the kind of playstyle you want to make of it. theres classes that demands high skill ceiling, if you're up for that
Yeah, I'm up for it
I'm playing NAE and I live in Utah
I heard weapon swapping and ping might not coincide
it depends of his internet

tru
Should I use the Powerpass?
its just a suggestion to maybe not make a class that relies on lower ping
he has to be way under no?
only when you have decided on final decision of what class you want to main
I wouldn't powerpass till you decide on a class, for real
what if you just hate sorc gameplay
i would watch videos about the classes if i was you
should be less, even I all the way from germany have 94ms
I played sorc in SWTOR
it depends of your internet XD
i have 100+ from nae to naw
read about the classes
what da hell is swtor even? 
I top out at 100 ping, playing from NV on Na-e servers
star wars old republic
whats nv? nashville?
Vegas
nevada
Nevada
ahh
tenneSEEE
same shit
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
NA education even Americans doesnt know @wintry depot

well my geography sucks
im canadian, why the fuck i would know us states

ok fair
i can tell you where la and ny is and thats it 
what da fuck
no idc
No cheekclapping
i got your location already dont worry
For any of you weebs

Well I live in secured building and moving in 2 weeks so enjoy 
Sending dem troops rn
Ok I’ll clap their cheeks ig
I like some military dudes

Actually not millitary more like ATF people i can send



Lifeskill mats probably
yea suk my ass


whoa is female pally
dps viable

support rosters be

i watched what henry said
think hes implying its female pally only
Male pala has decent dps branch
Artist and bard not so much, unless you overgear a lot
But yeah, director said that female pala would have a decent dps setup
Its way better in t4
i was one of the early enjoyers of dps pally
But they prob still get gatekept unless overgeared

W Hardcore Henry
They’re just hyping up the new class
Tier 4 node made it way better
base damage still very low
I know the german support will get a shutdown.. but which server should i joyn now? Or which server is german after taht.. can anyone give tipps?
There isn't really a German server
All the EU servers are the same. Its just that the game won't support a German voice pack and translation for text
As good as any time I suppose. There arnt any progression event active so it can be pretty hard to progress at the beginning. There is a powerpass, a story skip, to endgame available for 3 more days. I would HIGHLY recommend using it
The powerpass takes you to South Kurzan (2nd to last story continent) level 60, item level 1585
SG has mentioned theyll work on changes for progress from 1585-1620 (end of Tier 3) but for now its still a challenge
Should I use the power pass I have? First time playing this game ever, but played SWTOR like a year ago(Did some NiM raids)
Either way you can have fun for a bit in a free game still
have you decided on a class?
I would. It skips A LOT. Easily 100+ hours of story and dead content grind. If you want to play the story you can always make a 2nd char. You get 6 free char slots
Do you have to play each class and decide? I tried Sorc and I like it
no, but I linked you the class overview things, and people have suggested to watch videos
You dont have to try every class. You only get 1 powerpass so just make sure youre happy with the class you use it on.
I only am wanting to make sure, because your statement was "Oh, I tried Sorc in this other game, surely i'll like it in this game"
but this game is a lot diff than others
I tried sorc in this game I mean
Yes, but, initially you said that you played Sorc in a diff game
if you're enjoying Sorc, then powerpass sorc 
Oh, yes I did. I can see that it's different. I'm more so taking it in as a completely new class
Last I played SWTOR was early last year.
Ignite requires certain stat bonuses first, reflux is just set and go
Ignite doesnt really need anything special anymore
With Ark Passive the stats are fine, landing double doomsdays are very easy
The hardest part is timing your bursts and knowing boss patterns to do so
I see what you mean. How do I learn the mechs of my class though
Practice
Okay. And wait, you have to do the grind with each character?
Class guide on Nexus has basic rotations. Otherwise its just practice and learning the rights
Char progression is unique for each char yes
How many characters are recommended to have?
As many as you want to play
You can earn gold from raids on up to 6 a week
But playing lots of chars isnt for everyone
It takes a lot of investment to build up a full roster and takes more time to play them all
I'm complaining about 100 hours on a character, but I've gotten at least a thousand hours on SWTOR
Probably more
Got it
Thank you

Mokoko Bootcamp was something brought over to Global w/ changes made


reminder that this is pet half of aura, that includes the stat/skill bonuses we get for free

Your build guide should tell you
@merry orbit
Uptime is a social construct and we need to tear it apart.
or you just suck
What item lvl is the strike raid?
1720 hm 1680 nm i think
it says crit stat
but which would it be since theres two
damage and rate
just curious
wut
4 players : 1660 NM / 1700 Hard 8 players : 1680 NM 1720 Hard @hollow condor
nice, they got answered in all 3 of the channels they asked in 
didnt notice x)
i love when they do that
wasnt checking all damn white chan here
oh, it's not your fault, mostly commenting on the fact that people are impatient af, and will ask the same thing in every channel, even if someone responds .5 seconds after they ask

haha true ^^
whats the quickest way to get shards
to cut accessories
any point in buying trash ones w pheons to dismantle them?
Any news on when we get the next round of balance changes?
quickest way is to have a full roster of 1680s to generate lots of shards 👀
doesnt help
1680 chaos gives more than 1660 :0
you dont need a full roster of 1680
you get limited by the amount you can send a day anyway
i forgot
they mentioned strike raid but did they mention a rough timing?
or do you guys know how many months after act 3 did KR get strike raids?
only a month after act 3?
woah
i see
july 34th is pretty late july tho
man, i have a 1680 alt that has over 4k bound leaps
and i was thinking "oh, maybe i can hone her to 1700 soon!"
takes over 5k leaps on average to go from +16 to +18
ahhh
doesn't make any difference though
Leaps are quite cheap
just different order of the same stuff
it's not about the price of leaps
it's that leaps represent how much boudn stuff you have

nah
blue and red stones are in shorter supply than leaps typically
but gold even more so
i'd say blues are actually in shorte rsupply
yeah i know
it's cause people overhone weapon but not armor
nah
i think if i dont have enough to hit at least 1700
there's no point in honing a 1680
well not fully fully
just gotta hit average leaps for that
which is like
7.5k
or something
it's an alt
it's not worth honing alts above 1680
if they can't get 1700
since they can't get into brel hm anyway
it doesn't matter what gear they have
no title and not 1700 = deny
i am
of course not
my highest character is from ignite server
since that's when i came back
well, ignite server was in october
brel came out in january
some of us couldn't even hit 1680 by then
i was a few weeks late for 1690
shouldn't this be pretty expected?
yeah "dps shortage" meaning "we only accept people this tall"
at 1690 you're gonna need a title it hink
8s 
but actually you might be right
maybe not at 1690 but 1695 could work
i do have 8s since i share them with my main
man
aeromancer is like the best t3 alt to have
it's so good at soloing stuff
wait
was that by expense
so the most expensive engraving is only 500g?
wow
i tested
i'd have similar ping
although if russia stopped being so shit
and built real internet infrastructure that would connect from the west to the east
i could probably get like 130-140 ms
so why is everyone on the "china lost ark" hype?
people thought that china got a ll that exclusive content
cn recently had a stream about upcoming events
but turns out we're getting it too
thanks
all the cn worshippers silent all of sudden after yesterday xD
?
ah china just got released a year ago and is already ahead of us?
game modd?
like a seperate raid?
most likely the same what "challenge mode" amazon called
having a seperate region make extra modes of a raid sounds like a huge red flag to me
so I do hope its just a "everyone is on the same page"
Code didn't say a word since yesterday evening, what a rare one

silenced. a dream xD
he's muted
oooh
OH
i wish arcana had better chaos dungeon
its kinda ok if you get knight >clown>kncight>clown
they should give celestial rain a tripod
that increases its damage to challenge mobs
hits a larger aoe
and resets on hit
Why not do Emperor for it?
i am
it's still shit
celestial rain is unironically styill one of the better skills to use for it if you have the cdr and it one shots all the mobs
I don't know how Emperor spam is shit but alright. 
because the aoes are tiny
I mean the card.
rng
You pull like 10 cards a minute though.
it quickly boils down to: too many cooks in the kitchen but:
One Region who has never had anything to do with balancing or raid design starts changing the balance.
this creates and imbalance and other Regions are gonna want the same or something similar if it turns out to be good/bad.
now lets say its good and other regions adopt it: they basicly just "usurped" the endgame balance and they need to figure out how to properly manage it. Who is responsible for what going forward or is that region just gonna have a superior version.
its bad? other players want something similar but not the same so other regions start trying to implement their own challenge mode. leaving the game in unsynchronised states.
Both situations can lead to very troublesome future updates as in "which Region gets what Update and who decides how the future of the game goes".
essaying
but the main issue is difference in direction of balancing
i don't think you do
or maybe you actually do but 1 card every 6 seconds
is not enough to clear
meanwhile on slayer i have an attack that hits the area of arcana's awakening
it 1 hits every mob
and resets every time i use it
I don't know man, Emperor is easy mode chaos.
I literally just press all the buttons without thoughts.
i'm pretty sure it's one of the worst chaoses
Aight.
i can't really think of anything that's worse at chaos

i guess wildsoul feels pretty bad too
but that's cause the crow thing has the combo mode so you can't spam it without taking the other tripod that makes it smaller
you dont spam crow
theres no point in spamming reset skills if its small and other skills come up faster anyway
but she doesn't have any nice chaos dungeon skills in her kit
thats cap
or at least not enough for a nice continuous cycle
too many skills have some weird built in delay for the phantom beast versions of the skills
just rotate fox leap and the other fox shit and then build with the phatom foxes
you mean you're running the spec version
so you can cast 3 skills and be out of meter?
If you're running out of meter during chaos you're doing it wrong. 
the meter builders aren't exactly good clearing skills
You're just refusing to use skills for reasons?
because they're not good skills?
if i could i'd spam roar 24/7
that's true
or i guess the fox spin
Lmao okay I'm gonna stop now.
those are great skills
but you also run out of meter
in like
6 casts
and then you're stuck with meter builders that are shit at clearing
i guess wildsoul isn't actually that bad
with phantom beast i can have typically around 3:15-3:00 left on the timer
it just feels more effort
I Love Ark Lost

ew
Banished to the Hall of Transcendence (forever)

#freecrier
hes rotting away atp

Is there already a guide written for the 2nd bloodchart?
I'm gonna get 80 enlightenment points with it
for 1660s
big huge qol for some classes
Makes my slayer actually better playable 
with new exhaust
Rapport, Una, Gineah Ocean Wandering Merchant, Continent Merchant & Cube
The hardest one to get is just the cube one
love lost ark
we won't, China got the change because they switched to Ark Passive whilst not even having Akkan yet
now they do
October Last year they had only just received Kayangel

Thank god they didn't call her Ladon

i think its ok name
for sake of consistency it would be bad idea, but over all if KR named her ladon in the beginning it would be good name
I like Brelshaza more than Abrelshud though
same thing
ladon deez
when AGS said Echidnas name wasnt finalized back then
meanwhile vykas in Korean
"Echidna.."
Ladon>echidna
I never understood the argument for changing the names of characters in different versions.. why cant they just keep the original names? Timmy doesn't suddenly become Timothy when he goes from USA to Canada does he? Whats up with that.. Maybe I understand if the original name is somehow offensive in english but I dont see any such cases in lost ark.
I never understood the argument for changing the names of characters in different versions.. why cant they just keep the original names? Timmy doesn't suddenly become Timothy when he goes from USA to Canada does he? Whats up with that.. Maybe I understand if the original name is somehow offensive in english but I dont see any such cases in lost ark.
They're names from existing pieces of literature, so the shitty tech-bro "We'll translate your game using AI" firm decided to arbitrarily change names, but only did it in a handful of cases
It sure seems like some of the names and translations were done by google translate or chatgpt or something
automated google translate most likely
but why do they have to change the names?
to make the translating company seem like they're doing something meaningful
brelshaza -> abrelshud etc. is just because how Hangul works
shit like Artemis/Rethramis , Una/Elpona, Krause/Cain etc are the shitty AI changes

Yea so many examples of bad and silly name changes.. I played this game 2 years on server called Slen 
oh, that's just a typo
They also did some weird translations with some class names.. but I guess at least some of them almost make sense
Battlemaster -> Wardancer? Okay.. sounds cool but.. is it really a dancer?
Thought Gunlancer would have more market appeal than Warlord, also part of the weird af Master censorship of the USA
Gunlancer makes sense.. its a character who uses a Gunlance as a weapon. Altho I wouldve preferred Warlord but thats personal opinion.
Scouter changed to Machinist only makes sense because of some dumb misattribution of scouts to rangers/bow
I also think they should swap the names of reaper and soileater
Assassin should be called Delain and rename Reaper to Assassin and Soueater to Reaper
that's an international thing though
even KR it's borked
Or even have Assassin changed to Rogue

Assassins = Delains
Fighters = Anitz
Mages = Sylvains
Specialists = Yoz

Idk what race names for warriors and gun/bow users
They're class archetypes not story denotions, why I went with Rogue
gorillas and chimpanzees
Rogues would fit for gun users tbh
nah Gun users are Rangers
warriors is kinda complicated
technology rangers
Gun users = rangers
replace a bow with a sniper, still a ranger in some aspect
I know all fighters lore-wise are from Anikka, that's why I came up with Anitz
gs is kinda unfun pre 1680
deserved
huh, i thought it was red eyes
Saturn cleared TFM on cn 
probably censored cause shes a demon and red in china is associated with good fortune n such
and Vykas is anything but good fortune on god
Good fortune for a UTI
Whats an UTI ong
Urinary Tract Infection

If she doesnt end up causing it the LITERAL SWAMP will
CN gotta ban foreigners on god tho
we're getting a nerfed version of the next raid right
idk
am i supposed to chase saturns groupies and ask them?
Act 1-3 get nerfed, dont think they touching HM

they already adjusted the "pain points" of Act 3
which werent the bosses being strong or w/e
but visuals and QoLs like that
only G3 is fun but sure
G2s battle item is entirely useless and some mechs got annoying amount of downtime
G1 is cinematic tho
i guess
thaemine with behemoth patterns
and Kharmine sidereal

its w/e u should be used to being a butt sniffer atp
yes
just get used to the patterns to sniff as well as u do in other raids
Lowkey, kharmine can get it.
im used to NPCs looking slick
that has to be player face right?
the lighting flicker cringe af
why they even do close ups on those cutscenes if light fucked up
do they even have QA?
yeah you
also i never had lightning flicker in that part
and ive done South vern like 11-12 times
Armen too. At the same time.

cn best region
they gonna suck all the pilot/bussers from NA to rice eat in cn soon
Damn even Zheng got the Tencent Virus
skibidi main {
yapping("Hello, World!");
bussin 0;
}
China stays winning
its a good thing
when the pilots and bussers leave to go to cn, we become a better region
most likely won't work
all the 1640 rats on cn have full 10s prob
Zheng make a char on ratik, grind cubes and give me the gems


so the big update is this Wednesday does this include team update? raid more casual
No, that is future stuff
#freecrier
@wintry depot
#freecrier
You can cry together
Yes?
Beautiful





CriErr wants a holocaust
no need to be that dramatic
no reason to differentiate nor target any group in particular

Crier ain't makin it back frfr
Another casualty in the never ending battle against bots and cheaters
My rmter buddy still chilling with 0 bans
At this rate I might as well join him
I once saw a post saying "Doesnt mads Mikkelsen looks like he smells good", and from that point i cant forget those words.

piloting is allowed there anyway no? 
@fresh flint i request some cinder magic my friend
i second this ^

Piloting isn't allowed
whats your source
Tencent
k guess the CN vet lied for funsies then


Just because some people get away with things doesn't mean its allowed
fucking hell official discord andies are problematic
no word has been said about getting away with it. but being outright allowed.
Didnt people got banned on cn loa with the tfm race
in china piloting allowerd everywhere but TFM
Because pilots
well cos he was keeping moth shut until check confirmed 😄
Everyone's playing with VPN there anyway
now that he made video they would probably nuke em
Looks like he smells like shit
Can Crierr cry? Lets hear what that sounds like frfr
sounds gey
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going off of this
dunno what his benefit would be lying about it
but its w/e
new record in mm skolakia
was curious if anybody had an actual official stance about it and not some hearsay


Its not like anyone reads ToS
Oh ok, can't type the word he said
wat
That is just ****
Anyway doesn't matter
CN is its own entity
And considering the timing of the announcements yday we don't have to thank CN for the new stuff.
solo it?
Well, bussing is more accessible and worse influence than someone risking their account to be piloted
Ig
But im so tired of CN LOA talk 
It sounds dumb at first, but if bussing was allowed more people would be just taking busses than a few who pays for a pilot
Idk what im supposed to feel about a version that's so vastly different to KR/RU/Global
Yea
Altho I think both should be banned xD
Well if you can't stop something take advantage of it
prob a smarter choice since ppl getting grabbed all the time and not gettign any cdr

Like the rmting being taxed
can you solo stagger the first part of skolakia in solo
even without cdr is 6 min run
8 mins is a bus
for bussing they have same stance as ags afaik. (advertising forbidden, but bussing itself still happening)
Imagine MM'ing Slovakia
I don't think guardian raids scale to player count?
They do
Oh
I see
I was doing Argeos and 3 ppl focused on boss instead of orb
Awful without a sup
ran out of my blue potions as well so
Orb doesn't count for MVP 
Its a mechanic
That can lead to wipe
He just respawn 
Wether they can get their petty meter result or survive shouldn't the choise be obvious
If it was the first orb wed just reset
didnt hey change it
If meter counts it why don't they hit it
I solo argeos on my 1670 wildsoul if I can't instantly find a party
Idk what's worse atp the meter dumbasses or the mvp chasers
Because then they might not be on mvp
Gg
Unless they did it very recently, no
Guardians always scaled with player count
That comment wasn't related to that
no
perma the cn players but keep the foreigner accounts

It just used to be that solo it was 100% hp, duo 150%, trio 200% and full party 250%
But they changed it recently where solo and duo aren't at such a big disadvantage
@thorny olive ah
My bad
Yeah meter has been counting orb since few days after release to encourage people to hit orb
But it doesn't work since MVP doesn't count it
So the results are skewed

Someone else will hit the orb ok?
Now meter might show top DPS but MVP shows someone else because they greed boss instead of orb


My wildsoul can hit both boss and orb with
Yeah classes who can hit both are nice
Bear rock, fox laser, bear Z and awaken
If you have an aeromancer they will kill the rock too
Just one shot orb & hit boss
Gunslingers and deadeyes killit
DB's never hit orb
SE can hit guillotine, rappers scythe, and Vestige on boss and orb
Strikers wouldn't either
I hit both on my sharpshooter
And T skill and awakens
Strikers in general don't do any mech in the game anyway
Since my Sorc is trash and i usually have HA during second orb i just HA
But if they don't have meter they won't kill it
I haven't had HA on Argeos for months
It always dies before that
Even solo
Only had HA on Aregos before ark passive change
I used Guillotine + Vestige on orb was ez
RS is actually easier to hit
I only noticed this last week
You just go stand between the orb and boss and hit RS between the two
And it'll hit both
Imagine u fail G and then u throw Guillo and hold vestige and the boss wipes u before they hit
Yep
GG
Unlucky
I swear
The yellow flash doesn't always happen on Argeos
Like it gets clipped or cut off or something
Ignore the flash, press when he moves his head during chargeup
It does?
True
t3 leaps expensive
I guess I haven't looked at t3 leap price
Does it have RNG leaps like T4
They're gonna go up when the nerf is announced for 1580 -> 1620
rested veskal gives 48
rested aegeos is like 24?
and the price is the same more or less
Random, about 24
veskal gives dobule, only if you care about reds/fateember you do dragon
but veskal is also half th time so...
since you kill veskal in about 90s or so
in solo
Yeah idk how fast a 1670 can kill aregos, but its fast when several people, dunno about solo
its also time wasted sitting in PF or waiting for party to fill so
As usually
Yeah the time wasted in pf is why I do it
I still think that any time a player is solo they should get the same buffs as solo raids
Funny, half the time spent in raids is in party finder
I thought so!
is it tho 😄
But then I started tracking it and it wasn't true for me
I even added up the numbers this week
Iirc I spent 210 minutes in PF and 813 minutes in raids this week
Well, it depends when you do it too
But yeah ig average less time in pf
just boring = feels longer
(but I had two pretty long Brel HMs this week that were like 20-25% of all my time)
That's true
1670 sorc and 1660 aero
about same time, mainyl coz i have to wait for ignition cycles to line up
I'm also not the best example since I've learned to supp trade a bunch of the raids that would otherwise take long in PF
Try aregos
sounds about right for good chars, if you rattish it could be bad
month ago i spend 5 hours to get into brel normal as 1670,
while on release, before sup shortage i was instant accepted.
It genuinely used to be the case that on some chars I would spend upwards of an hour in PF for aegir
yo who wanna mentor me on ratik
sorc already scuffed as it is
im a fresh lvl50 wardancer idk what im doing
Surely in solo the orb can break from the arrow rain skill
These days

All my 1680 Aegirs are support trades
it has like 300 no
You have a powerpass?
i got no idea what that is bigman how do i check
Idk orb is cursed, think 300, and.. maybe 600?
Or smth
Go to character select at the bottom you'll see powerrpass click that
Then click event powerpass
Where are you in the game
Means you can use a powerpass
Not that you have one
So you need to check
So do what I said
im in da vern castle chilling
Is that the furthest you got?
with lv50 surely
yeah apc of hail is 50, inferno is 25, so not even close
im lvl50 i dont remember the farthest i got, havent played since it got released in eu
exp/ps do like 300-350 under ignition so
SO TINY
the powerpass would skip all story for you and get you to the current continent and gives you a gearset of item lvl 1580 or 1600
Well, check out #lost-ark-help they are more useful than people here anyway
you end up
waiting for hyper and kill it with that
and by that time its like 2:30 to 30min



But yeah, basically like you said, veskal is like 2x faster for basically the same market value
Why does my discord mobile say 5:33 PM but on PC it would say 17:33
Not like it matters, just strange
That's alright
Yes, you can use that if you want to skip story
are all the powerpasses the same or
should i try to get another one
They skip the story to a certain point in the game, you generally get one with a honing express event (helps you reach a higher level)
South Kurzan is one continent before the latest, so if you use it you skip all previous ones
well do i lose anything by using it?
Well, you lose story rewards like cards, xp and some materials, but you save a ton of time and get some higher gear
sure ill use it then. problem is i got no idea what to do after that
Well, you can ask in #lost-ark-help there's people there who help people on a daily basis, they'll know how to help
bet ty


🚁 🐱
Replace the lost ark with tencent

its not for me pls
the least CN talk we have the better

yeah, they have some things that we didn't get at diff times
like extra... enlighten points? before Aegir's even out
Lost ark only spanish and english meanwhile 20 years old MMO 
depends on what embers are like on wednesday!
Card XP! 
relics 

bright side. 45 min of extra relic ember chance with 1700 chaos dungeon
@neon cedar
If I don't get into this Aegir grp wanna do the Brell normal one?
yay


Can't rn, helping a neighbor with his gazebo
They should just use AI to translate everything
At least that better than nothing

or just use english client like a normal human being
ur playing CN? 
werent u the one bitching about CN was gonna be the worst version of the game 
Paladin on CN also Imagine
yeah its prob cn > west > ru >>>>>>> kr
ok well idk about RU
but i been saying CN #1 
a publisher with actual rights
AGS could never
only a specific demographic likes the CN version 
what barrier to entry
with the catastrophe mode, i guess cn wouldnt be that bad
Does he like Kuro Games way too much?
who
The guy glazing CN
that's literally every game in CN, and KR have the same hoops, just with their IDs instead LOL

there's no barrier to entry for locals























