lost-ark-discussions

[teal thistle]

YEs bro kr want it too

[gusty fulcrum]

Seethe

[teal thistle]

[swift tree]

Korea low-key mad that China taking greater control over game direction, tbh

[teal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/mudkip-seethe-cope-zander-gif-22060049

[lyric fjord]

if ags dosnt go the way, we joining china #1

[swift tree]

which I can understand

[teal thistle]

Chatgpt goated

[tulip charm]

what i don't really understand is
how is cn so empowered with this?

[gusty fulcrum]

Why is china so hot at ze moment

[tulip charm]

meanwhile global needs to wait days for a response from smg to fix a bugged frog

[teal thistle]

Cuz China NUMBA ONE!

[gusty fulcrum]

Wait doesn’t china censor skins lmao? Trash region.

[tulip charm]

meanwhile cn turning lost ark into a p2w mobile game soon

[teal thistle]

They did at the start not anymore afaik

[subtle cliff]

150k for this

[teal thistle]

Tencent GOATED

[teal thistle]

Just liek what they did with BP

[burnt tree]

lmfao they stacking corpses

[swift tree]

"Flesh and Bone Game"

[burnt tree]

no wonder they scheduled the stream for 20th

[teal thistle]

yep

The fall of LOA kr

[lyric fjord]

KR probabbly wanted to see reaktion to china from other reagions xD

[gusty fulcrum]

FLESH DUMPLING

[swift tree]

I hear it goes well in Blood Soup

[gusty fulcrum]

How did lost ark fall so fast in kr 🤔

[tulip charm]

how do you know it did?

[teal thistle]

Bad direction

[uncut dirge]

memo put out an interesting video

[tulip charm]

yea, some interesting takes

[gusty fulcrum]

All they had to do was allow infinite spending like maplestory

[uncut dirge]

it's basically a summary of a KR stream/podcast

[swift tree]

that's what ruined it

[uncut dirge]

and they make the point that the director is trying to court more swipers to the game

the director says one thing, but does the opposite

[teal thistle]

China is taking the TOP on every single thing they do, they did it with the Gacha genre and WuWa and now they are going for LOA, China #1

[uncut dirge]

and the goal is to basically stop funneling resources

(from alts to mains)

that's why they get stuff like character bound gold and character bound gems

[swift tree]

did it in the most blatantly grubby way though, via squeezing the existing community instead of encouraging new players.

[lyric fjord]

they take it , and do it better...

[teal thistle]

Thats china bro

[swift tree]

China is incredibly money grubby but they do it via accessibility

[tulip charm]

my old quote, give cn players the game they want
give it another few month lost ark cn will become a mobile game
with a leaderboard for lv11 gem sideral users only
its what cn players want and deserve!!!
fatigue issue solved, you literally cannot die in raids, all thaemine red attacks now heal the players on contact

https://tenor.com/view/giantsbetta-small-monkey-monkey-backpack-monkey-gif-13385757124521273001

[gusty fulcrum]

Lowkey just increase gem max to +12 and make it so max level gems are roster wide. Ppl will swipe like no tomorrow.

[teal thistle]

They are giving us LOA mobile W

[swift tree]

I mean accurate, but at least we get more boat islands and horizontal too /s

[subtle cliff]

lowkey

if loa mobile had pc client

[burnt tree]

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/lost-ark-endgame-content-gif-24875605

[teal thistle]

Its that easy fixing the game but they don't want to

[subtle cliff]

id just play that one

[burnt tree]

thats why i cba with ppl glazing CN

[wicked blade]

Same

[burnt tree]

its going down the p2w leaderboard path like most of their games

[wicked blade]

[uncut dirge]

honestly

the real fix for the game would be to release dev tools

[swift tree]

mostly because they want the functional changes without the gacha attached (the gacha remains attached tho)

[uncut dirge]

so people can make content for the game

[tulip charm]

its what some people want and like, i am not gonna judge, but i don't want it

[uncut dirge]

and then adopt that content into proper content for everyone

[burnt tree]

I wanna play an MMO not a mobile p2w tower climber so yeah me neither

[uncut dirge]

cause content is what the game is missing

[teal thistle]

And its also what the devs want, cuz there is waaaaaaaay more money on mobile games

[swift tree]

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/download
Dev tools

[burnt tree]

[tulip charm]

don't care, i don't want it

[teal thistle]

Thats fine

If they do it just quit

[gusty fulcrum]

But wut about all ur time and money spent

[swift tree]

banned by EAC thought police

[teal thistle]

You exchanged all of that for something called "FUN"

[swift tree]

Time and Money and be exchanged for Goods and Services

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-money-peanuts-explain-how-homer-gif-15536016

[teal thistle]

I mean

When i stop having fun on a game

I just quit

I dont care if i spent 10000$ or 1$

[swift tree]

I mean that is literally how it works

[teal thistle]

Not for everyone tho

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-then-gif-26630246

[gusty fulcrum]

Imagine being a quitter

[vocal pollen]

only got grabbed once on Skorp this time, and it was a non stagger grab

[teal thistle]

Thats what real chads do

[wicked blade]

https://youtu.be/x8ugF_tTWRI?si=9xXG453h3Q01j5Yd

Manager Ken causing chaos. Classic

[gusty fulcrum]

Giga chads infinitely consoom

[wicked blade]

But yeah, it is CN game now

KR and West deadge

[past ginkgo]

Dude Satho you called it man

haha

[swift tree]

Well no shit, Raven CN cocka glazer

[past ginkgo]

Time for some raids

[wicked blade]

[swift tree]

RS3?

[past ginkgo]

OSRS

Chambers of Xeric

[wicked blade]

Well no shit when CN LOA is better game

Idgaf

[swift tree]

ah, explains why walls look new-ish

[past ginkgo]

Yeh it's raid in Zeah and I use 117 HD plugin on Runelite

[teal thistle]

CN is taking over everything bro

Its actually scary

Even the mokoko

Become CN citizen

[low nebula]

[craggy parrot]

Im no money and no time

[teal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-anguish-despair-gif-13915908866750092639

[past ginkgo]

The only thing that takes over

is my rng in osrs

Twisted bow drop please

I need new mage gear

[swift tree]

Yeah memorizer kinda nailed it

[burnt tree]

delulu

https://tenor.com/view/wonyoung-jang-wonyoung-letterboxd-reaction-half-star-gif-13983925751380388168

go play CN and spare us the glazing

[teal thistle]

Any tldr?

[burnt tree]

we already got Raven

https://tenor.com/view/magenta-twitch-korean-girl-punch-gif-26646028

[swift tree]

Korea trying to brute-force KR into stop using their main 6 as funnels to a main.
From character binding rewards, gem changes, gold inflation etc.
Bunch of economic moves to kill funneling between characters and alt rosters as a whole.

This would work if it was meant to balance the economy, but they've then made moves to make buying BC/Deleting Gold for Hot Deal bundles, swiping for material packs and the upcoming Kazeros Leaderboard-- it's just one giant money grab

[past ginkgo]

monka

[vocal pollen]

you get around being from the US and trying to play there? :p

[teal thistle]

I really don't see how memo thinks they want to do that lol, if they really want us to play just 1 char they could start by nerfing honing XD

Based

[limber salmon]

But jhawk is chad 💀, even got criticized by ex director is insane

[swift tree]

I hope you get outswiped by a Chinese guy using their parent's Real Estate $$

huh

Terry is AU?

[teal thistle]

Join us

[burnt tree]

Patheticc

[teal thistle]

CN domination

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1365300598299299871/0E1DEF683757215A71ACED95CF097ABB.gif

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/bing-chi-ling-alex-mei-bing-chi-ling-alex-gif-21908053

ew

[burnt tree]

If y'all moving on CN, just send me your gems

[swift magnet]

[swift tree]

@sand marsh send me your paladin gems if you quit global, I'll keep them warm

[slender sky]

until they discover youre a foreigner and blacklist your ass from any lobby

[teal thistle]

I LOV ELOST ARK CHINA

BEST SKINS EVER

[swift tree]

we have that skin, whut

[craggy parrot]

That censor

[low nebula]

nihao

[swift tree]

oh nvm

[teal thistle]

this is our version

[craggy parrot]

Weren’t they 100$

[swift tree]

i mean ngl, the skimp ass outfits of KR are kinda annoying tbh

[teal thistle]

Yeah something like that LOL

[past ginkgo]

ofc fucking white man, bad rng protection where

[teal thistle]

Do you like the furry skins tho?

[low nebula]

so our has shorter dress?

[burnt tree]

Granny outfit

[teal thistle]

Yep

[swift tree]

depends on what you mean by that

[teal thistle]

Ikr lmao

[burnt tree]

I refuse to play a game that censors outfits so shamelessly and horribly

[teal thistle]

this

[low nebula]

why you pref their?

[burnt tree]

They didn't even try

[past ginkgo]

Inb4 west announces similar things in the video kekw

Watch the AGS glazing coming

They gonna do 360 spin

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[swift tree]

because "furry" could also mean the Rowen wolf's head and the Taruni JO crystal outfit

[limber salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/tencent-tro-wave-wavetro-wavecord-gif-19928369

[low nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-11559294447663917591

[swift tree]

If they didn't have double-standards they'd have no standards at all

[teal thistle]

I don't prefer them i hate censorship

But they do have the best wallpaper

Look at the bears

GOATED

[craggy parrot]

Did cn get that whale mount

[swift tree]

which is weird because they literally have sluttier male outfits

[craggy parrot]

Or am I thinking of a different game

[tulip charm]

this is a given, but his paladin, he dosn't even need to swipe, cn ratio for dps/sup is prob like 95% 5% lol

[teal thistle]

Classic CN double standards XDDD

AYOOO

[swift tree]

meanwhile CN trying to close the tops on female players

[slender sky]

so china gae?

[low nebula]

thats sexist

[swift tree]

so's half of the KR playerbase

[teal thistle]

They even have their own legendary skins

[low nebula]

zerk ofc

[swift tree]

Paladin had too much religious iconography

[teal thistle]

Oh really? i don't know anything about CN religion

[craggy parrot]

Oh was it a dragon mount

[teal thistle]

That one is from TW

[craggy parrot]

Give to us

I’ll pay

[swift tree]

It's not CN religion, the lack of any depictions is not allowed

why Holy Knight in CN has no crosses on it

[teal thistle]

Ohhhhh

[wicked blade]

AYO

[swift tree]

Chinese version wont have crucifixes

[teal thistle]

Thats kinda weird lol

[safe lark]

deathboi=Raven

[swift tree]

"Dont want a game that promotes one particular religion over the other etc"

[teal thistle]

CN had a whale mount

[craggy parrot]

Chinese plug is crazy

[swift tree]

they also had cock magic ken skin for male gunner/warrior

[craggy parrot]

Lmao

I want female pala to look like sword maiden from goblin slayer

[wicked blade]

Check how many lobbies are there

Support surplus doesn't matter over there

[tulip charm]

is that older artist i see

[past ginkgo]

[tulip charm]

[wicked blade]

So u gonna play dps?

[teal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-goblin-goblinslayer-swordmaide-sword-gif-19378221

[wicked blade]

@sand marsh Is your plug complaining about LOA CN?

[tulip charm]

tell him to fund your supp!!!

[wicked blade]

He can do that himself with 100$

@sand marsh

Fuck West, I'm going full CN

[swift tree]

found it

[wicked blade]

Oh no

[swift tree]

spits you out at the start of the next progression path with starter gear, as per translation

[burnt tree]

Rare good CN skin

[swift tree]

the male skins tho

[burnt tree]

Both are sick ngl

[wintry depot]

I mean its one region

[burnt tree]

Yeah KR looks similar lmao

[wintry depot]

It would be the same if nae naw and eu would merge

[burnt tree]

^

[wicked blade]

AHAHHAHAA

[sharp bluff]

yeah right man we're getting a 9 minute video saying dere wewking vewwy vewwy hawd

[burnt tree]

Global always suffers due to split regions

[wintry depot]

Na ags video wont be great

[past ginkgo]

ngl that skin looks pog

[wintry depot]

We need to wait kr one

[swift magnet]

i dont expect anything

wont be imapctful until loaon anyways

[wintry depot]

I expect them mentionning the date for deadzone honing nerf

Thats all

[burnt tree]

They could technically implement mega servers and for matchmaking to prioritise each persons regions but ping issues

[swift magnet]

that would be a W

[swift tree]

the joke was that the warrior one is literally the gay ken doll

[wicked blade]

Also, it is 9pm in CN rn

[wintry depot]

And say that they abandon api/stylebook

[swift magnet]

i wnat my music stuff

[past ginkgo]

I mean API is kinda here anyways with this uwuowo stuff

[burnt tree]

Anyway tired of CN glazing gonna go get some coffee

We acting like a game that has only one region having so many lobbies on a friday night is unheard of

[swift tree]

give us the music system tho ffs

[burnt tree]

Saturday** gg

[wicked blade]

It is Sunday night

[burnt tree]

Early Sunday night

Point stands

[wicked blade]

Yeah

[wintry depot]

Its saturday 8pm no?

[wicked blade]

That is almost early Sunday night

[swift tree]

the Global video comes out in the next few hours

[burnt tree]

Ok it's Saturday 8;21 pm

Not Sunday

[wintry depot]

Yea

Raven is drunk

[swift tree]

It's 8:30pm in CN right now

[burnt tree]

I think Ravens over glazing burned his IQ

[wicked blade]

You should see their lobbies at 2pm

Also, this is only Thaemine

[wintry depot]

Can you please create cn loa discord and go there ty

[wicked blade]

@sand marsh Should check Akkan

[wicked blade]

Good idea

Deathboi will be the admin

[burnt tree]

Yeah Scalp look at their gold earning raid lobbies

[wicked blade]

[burnt tree]

Of one of their top 3 Endgame raids

Having many lobbies

Wooo

[wicked blade]

Even their low level raids are full

And alive

Yeah, it helps u

[burnt tree]

Considering how CN works yeah that's obvious Raven

[wintry depot]

[burnt tree]

Glaze the obvious more

[wicked blade]

Points out to quests

[wintry depot]

I didnt know chinese needed so much help

[swift tree]

China has less than a dozen officially sanctioned MMOs they can play without having to use a VPN

[slender sky]

you remember that little wagon armen took you in to drive to prideholme?

cn has that for the entire game

[teal thistle]

CHINA CHINA CHINA!!!

[wintry depot]

Ew

[swift tree]

in fairness every Ubisoft and Rockstar game has had those arrows for the last decade

[wicked blade]

Oh nooo, systems that help new players

Ewwww

Get a grip

[swift tree]

hell even bioshock

[teal thistle]

XDDD

[wicked blade]

Wait till Baldie finds about goodie

For new players

[past ginkgo]

The only thing that SG should consider from CN for the other versions is the raid difficulty thing. I stand my ground on this.

Who cares about the rest

[wintry depot]

I dont play those games

[wintry depot]

I mean they already announced they will do it

[swift tree]

singleplayer rpgs tl;dr

[wintry depot]

[swift tree]

^

[past ginkgo]

I would love a reworked NM/HM/extreme nightmare mode type of style

[wintry depot]

I like the transmog system

[past ginkgo]

So every player has a place

[wintry depot]

But from what i saw thats about it

[wicked blade]

CN #1

[swift tree]

The Una changes are good too

[uncut stratus]

bioshock was great for outstanding developments in corn

[slender sky]

the raid difficulty thing was announced by kr bozo in the stream that also announced the gem thingy no?

[teal thistle]

Nah bro this is GOATED that wallpaper

[swift tree]

that was Infnite tho

[burnt tree]

I like the transmog changes but can we afford splitting the playerbase into 3 different raid difficulties? lmao

[wicked blade]

God damn, that wallpaper is so good

[uncut stratus]

bioshock still a goated game

[wintry depot]

Ye i didnt understand it, my brain isnt awake rn

[past ginkgo]

Yeh but he only announced casual change for NM, CN announced a difficulty higher than HM

For the real 1% endgame sweats

[wintry depot]

Oh

Yeah thats good

[swift tree]

rewards are moved to the weekly track so you get payout alongside gold tokens

dailies are only for reputation

[past ginkgo]

Basically having all kinds of difficulties allows every player to just pick what they what

[wicked blade]

Can we get CN version of Lost Ark but with West difficulty in raids

[burnt tree]

can u move to a CN LOA discord instead

[wicked blade]

They don't have one

[teal thistle]

YES PLEASE

[wicked blade]

Get ExitLag

[burnt tree]

make ur own and glaze it there

[wicked blade]

It will get it down to sub 200

[uncut stratus]

that seems about right, i played on CN for a bit

[wicked blade]

Check goodies

[past ginkgo]

I mean the CN skin looks cool but it's probably exclusive to CN so yeah

[wicked blade]

[wicked blade]

Good idea

[burnt tree]

all u do is shove down ppls throats how much u ride Tencents rod

[wicked blade]

I will tell my Chineese friends to make it

Too lazy

[teal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/pubgmobilehackers-tencent-pubgmobile-hackerspubg-gif-18652083

[wicked blade]

I will rather ride Tencent d**k then uncompetent AGS one

[teal thistle]

GOATED TENCENT

[swift magnet]

just delete your west account and migrate to cn.

betetr delete your discord your and spare us your brainrot

[teal thistle]

Thats what most people will do soon

[wintry depot]

We arent glazing ags rod tho

[wicked blade]

I had to make new account because I bricked mine when I tried to help baldie from NA

It seems it blocks NA in specific

[tulip charm]

this is false, replace tencent with ags and repalce hackers with bots

[teal thistle]

You are about to experience the REAL LOA MAIN SERVER

[wicked blade]

[teal thistle]

[teal thistle]

LOL

[swift magnet]

[teal thistle]

It was the other way around tho

[burnt tree]

fuck

ok wait

[teal thistle]

LMAO

[wicked blade]

Nah, Tencent is protecting me

[burnt tree]

[wicked blade]

They threat me good in their games

[teal thistle]

Tencent so goated that it protects their player base WWWWW

[wicked blade]

For small amount of money in return

They don't focus that much on whales, rather make it easier for anyone to spend small amount of money and get progress

Which I preffer more over KR and West

[teal thistle]

Thats because they are poor bro

[wicked blade]

It is ironic because KR/West is more expencive then CN

In loa

[teal thistle]

100% accurate now

[wicked blade]

Also banned busses

[wicked blade]

[swift magnet]

[burnt tree]

buy it from the cash shop

only 50 dollars

or was that the express

i forgot

[past ginkgo]

While they do make good games, you can't deny that, yes the P2W is extremely apparent

It's a whale's paradise

[burnt tree]

now they glaze Chinese 2.0 but its literally shit for whales

and a few catch up things for newbies

making the game leaderboard based but not equalizing the content

"f2p friendly"

[past ginkgo]

It will be the same with this Blue Protocol reimagined

People will be surprised how much more predatory it will be

Despite better gameplay

[teal thistle]

P2W is good for the game

I love watching the whales with max gear

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dancing-cute-dancing-cat-neko-gif-8527861182273029948

[wicked blade]

CN LOA is nowhere near expencive P2W as West

Making everyone able to progress for a little bit of money

That is the way to play the game

[past ginkgo]

I can only recommend watching Stoopz's video to that, he interviewed a CN player

[swift tree]

I mean ESO literally has this in their Veteran/Challenge mode, leaderboards for raid groups. So it's not a PC/F2P/CN specific thing

[past ginkgo]

That guy said it's A LOT more p2w

Makes sense, CN controls the RMT and makes it legit

[low nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-hachiware-sad-chikawa-gif-gif-15516747289746879480

[burnt tree]

i know its not something new

but its Tencent

so i know where its going

[wicked blade]

They legalized it.
They know they can't stop it, but they can tax it

W Tencent

[tulip charm]

pretend your the regular NAw player using a powerpass on their char, just click

[wicked blade]

ID verification @sand marsh

[swift tree]

I mean yeah, they managed to add a similar thing to a singleplay parkour game.

[swift tree]

I wish I was joking

[wicked blade]

He got verified account

6$ a month

[swift tree]

quick go hitup mandarin centre in Chatswood for a CN citizen ID

[past ginkgo]

Tencent is the same big company behind Riot who made a 500$ ahri skin

Don't forget that LOL

[burnt tree]

but its gonna be different for lost ark, THEY CARE INERI DONT U GET IT

GLAZE THEM

[past ginkgo]

[wicked blade]

DM

[swift tree]

**Behind half the AAA game industry right-now, other half is Microsoft, the tiny extra bit is Ubisoft being cannibalised by Vivendi (a private equity company)

[fresh flint]

Why is loa chat on fire this morning

[burnt tree]

we gonna act like just cause big ass trillionaire companies own half the industry they are saints to glaze

[swift tree]

CN announced mixed-quality stuff

[past ginkgo]

They saw CN stream and think it's the best version now

[burnt tree]

China stream was peak for play2win players

so ppl glaze

pay2win* ong

[fresh flint]

Oh..?

[fresh flint]

[wicked blade]

Forget the first image

[burnt tree]

they are adding leaderboards, third raid difficulty, some paradise mode, boss rush tower climber thing

[fresh flint]

I was about to ask LMAO

[burnt tree]

like mobile games

also having a raffle where 1 person out of 1mil players get a 9/7 and lvl 10 gems

so winnable so peak

[swift tree]

Boss Rush Tower Climber replaces story express / power pass and spits you out with an understanding of your class and starter gear

[tulip charm]

they want lost ark to become a mobile game with mobile game swipes

[fresh flint]

Interesting

[swift tree]

Also has its own loot system

[fresh flint]

It’s already to that point lol

[swift tree]

Cosmetic Gear Transmog announced

[wicked blade]

People rushed to LOA CN that even renting account increased by 6$ per month

[fresh flint]

wtf I want it

[swift tree]

like no joke it already kinda was that, but so has the entire MMO industry

[past ginkgo]

Holy KR is fucking mad at Smilegate l0l

[wicked blade]

I wonder why

[past ginkgo]

This will be a fun stream on 20th

[wicked blade]

[swift tree]

of course, this is not just a difference of opinion but of culture/worldview/nationality

[past ginkgo]

Not because of your thought process tho

[swift tree]

100% bet there's Korean players that are going to be saying shit like "THIS IS WHAT WE FEARED WHEN TENCENT GOT INVOLVED AHHHH! SMILEGATE MONEY HUNGRY!!!!!"

[past ginkgo]

Oh yes the culture thing goes hard right now

KR says they are test server for shitty CN

[fresh flint]

They’re mad at smilegate even tho it’s for loa cn?

[swift tree]

Smilegate still develops the CN version

[burnt tree]

Korean dev was at CN stream

ppl giga mad

[wicked blade]

[swift tree]

Domination

[burnt tree]

yu[

yup

[fresh flint]

Well yeah. But they probably pay them like they should lmao

[burnt tree]

the guy responsible for global loa operations

including ours i beleive

[past ginkgo]

Gold River was also there, people vented hard in Korea

[burnt tree]

yeah he was in the crowd xdd

[swift tree]

allegedly

[wicked blade]

Tbh, SG develops Lost Ark for Tencent

[burnt tree]

but its not confirmed

[wicked blade]

SG has 0 rights in CN loa

[fresh flint]

Why would they

[wicked blade]

There is not even their logo

[fallow marlin]

pretty sure the photo people were using was from when CN first launched 2 years ago

the showcase

also

inven is stupid

[past ginkgo]

I didn't post that photo though

I posted one about the difficulty thing

[burnt tree]

frfr

they are good at stacking corpses atleast

from what i saw

[fallow marlin]

general rule as well

CN is a different game

[burnt tree]

yep

when i saw who CNs publisher was i said the same

[fallow marlin]

in all games basically

[wicked blade]

New beginning

Here we go

[burnt tree]

no one has nothing to do with CN Lost Ark

[wicked blade]

[past ginkgo]

Yeh it's same for NEO

[burnt tree]

from Global/KR

[swift tree]

CN is a different game..... but it has also driven a bunch of QoL/System changes that we've had

[past ginkgo]

CN BnS NEO is running really good

[fallow marlin]

i guess tencent is just a better publisher

and also more money on the line i guess

[fresh flint]

So true

[swift tree]

I mean, honestly... yeah

[burnt tree]

CN players like to show off, KR players want to fit in

[past ginkgo]

We got the Thaemine QoL actually I remember that

[burnt tree]

now they clashing frfr

[fallow marlin]

but then again

[past ginkgo]

NM used to be 1620 right

[fallow marlin]

your comparing one of the biggest companies in the world

[swift tree]

at least in terms of direct marketing, player capture etc. no clue on their quality of customer support though

[fallow marlin]

with jeff bizos left over tissue

[burnt tree]

Tencent was also responsible for making Smilegate big i think

so they are favored a lot

[swift tree]

**Jeff Bezos Cyber-Bro "look im doing tech too" flex that's run by the Game Industry rejects of Sony Interactive Online

[past ginkgo]

Crossfire was also from Smilegate, as far as I remember

[burnt tree]

yeah it was

[past ginkgo]

That game was insanely popular in China

[fallow marlin]

it is crossfire

[burnt tree]

yep

Was a huuuge success at CN

[fallow marlin]

still is

[swift tree]

Crossfire = Asian Counter Strike

[fallow marlin]

apperantly

[burnt tree]

yup

[fallow marlin]

you know this incident makes me think

[fresh flint]

Our video drops today right?

[fallow marlin]

every mmos has a cataclysm event

[burnt tree]

yup

[wicked blade]

Ye, EOS annoucement today

[past ginkgo]

but then again, they had a CoD online version in China which was run by Tencent

[fallow marlin]

and this is lost arks turn

[wicked blade]

[fresh flint]

Bout to block yo ass

[past ginkgo]

That was really popular too

[wicked blade]

[burnt tree]

we saved

[past ginkgo]

Actually most cod players said they wish CoD Online from China was worldwide lmfao

[fallow marlin]

i get the feeling gem change will not be final seeing the china still saying not final

[past ginkgo]

But i think they just shut it down now and moved all resources to cod mobile

[swift tree]

only because Valve severly dropped the ball with CS2 misread CoD as CS for some dumb reason

[fresh flint]

What’s wrong with cs2?

[burnt tree]

it was never going to be final just from how much outrage there is about it

[swift tree]

unstable at launch and didn't retain a bunch of stuff that it said it was going to from Global Offensive

[burnt tree]

if CN or Global were to get a better version of it KR would be sending trucks by the thousand

[fresh flint]

It feels exactly the same imo

[fallow marlin]

CS would have been bigger if they just let the pc bang's play cs illegaly

[past ginkgo]

Tbh Valve dropped the ball with CS2, CSGO was already perfect as it is, the only bad thing about it was the 64-tick rate on servers

[fallow marlin]

starcraft would have died

instantly

[burnt tree]

they will just change it all together into something better probably

[swift tree]

I mean, its fixed now, again, I misread what Ineri said

[past ginkgo]

CS2 feels so much worse, especially performance wise

[fresh flint]

CS2 feels great

[fallow marlin]

valve dropped the ball with the asian market could have killed blizzard

[swift tree]

blame Sierra

[past ginkgo]

I'm curious what NetEase will do now

After their Marvel game was a success

[swift tree]

They will take it NetEasy

[fallow marlin]

i still find that comparison video

hilarious

with the chinese marvel game and the western one

[swift tree]

yet one of the most coomer shooters out there

[fallow marlin]

the western one looks like the chinese knock off

[past ginkgo]

Isn't the CN one heavily censored?

[fallow marlin]

nah

theres like a official marvel game

[swift tree]

*porn parody, lets be honest

[burnt tree]

they are also making MR "Worlds"

[fallow marlin]

found it

[past ginkgo]

I give all you CN glazers one month

[swift tree]

see the slutty warrior skins, eh?

[past ginkgo]

See you soon

[burnt tree]

they arent even the same character

[swift tree]

isn't the right-one the Square Enix one?

[burnt tree]

the OW dev who was like NetEase copied Widowmakers design

but black widow exists since the 60s

[fallow marlin]

squinix basically western now with the shit they pull

wheres my based japanese company

fucking westerners

ruining everything

[burnt tree]

thats why we never getting a Nier Automata sequel

[wicked blade]

True

[swift tree]

don't blame the entire west for business world turning to shit

[burnt tree]

i mean

[fallow marlin]

oh this

what i was looking for

[burnt tree]

its western ideologies

[wicked blade]

They have one?

[swift tree]

not really

[burnt tree]

have what

[burnt tree]

i still dont like the left one either

[wicked blade]

Ideology that is not dumb shit?

[burnt tree]

even if its better

[burnt tree]

idk

[fallow marlin]

its the southpark episode

[past ginkgo]

WTF LOL

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/emma-frost-gif-162829153786654437

[swift tree]

has nothing to do with ideology, anything with an art direction / design process adds time to budget.
publishers just want to scan motion capture, make the most bland af action hero ass shit and post it for $$$
CN/SEA can beat the large studios here by doing the bare minimum

[fallow marlin]

what i dont get is comic art was hyper sexualized

and it was fine

30 years ago

[burnt tree]

yeah and now ppl see a comic accurate skin in Marvel Rivals and go insane

[past ginkgo]

Yeah and people vented because Emma Frost was too sexualized

[burnt tree]

like Emmas X skin

[swift tree]

it wasn't fine, they had the Satanic Panic, and now that moved onto games

[past ginkgo]

When she was like that 30 years ago in comics

[teal thistle]

This is free

[burnt tree]

free

[teal thistle]

[past ginkgo]

I fucking hate western ideology so bad

Idk how we turned into this shit

[fallow marlin]

for me the same group just changed names

[swift tree]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_panic

[swift tree]

**Puritans

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/scary-gif-24860046

[teal thistle]

[fallow marlin]

we call them karens now

[burnt tree]

i dont self insert in games so i dont feel like i should be represented in any shape or form in them

i find it weird lmao

[tulip charm]

this is something i learned playing lost ark
stay away from all western games, there are exceptions like poe, but those are far few inbetween

[burnt tree]

i play a game for the world they created and such not to find myself in it

[past ginkgo]

Like the only real good game we got recently was Expedition 33

[teal thistle]

We call them redditors now

[wicked blade]

Royal crystals there are cheaper then on West

[swift tree]

AA game, which is why

[fallow marlin]

western games has very high ceiling like expe 33 and the fucking floor like concord

[burnt tree]

and it was made from a bunch of former Ubisoft employees who were bored working there

[teal thistle]

AYOOO

[wicked blade]

Smash

[fallow marlin]

asian games are just in the middle

[teal thistle]

W skin

[fresh flint]

Sounds like that woke game that just recently died

[burnt tree]

concord?

[past ginkgo]

Western AAA publishers are down so bad

[fresh flint]

Ye

[fallow marlin]

i dont remember the last AAA game i played

[past ginkgo]

But japanese is same because of western influence

[burnt tree]

it didnt die cause of it

[tulip charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF0NyeCARf4

[burnt tree]

honestly

the game released too late

[swift tree]

Studio that made Exp 33 took their inspiration from some of the best games made ngl

[burnt tree]

and it brought nothing new to the table

of hero shooters

[fresh flint]

That was a contributing factor. People memed the fuck out of that game for trying to be too woke

[burnt tree]

while it was, it wasnt the main reason it died

it was just boring

[fallow marlin]

yeah like i said western games high ceiling very very low floor

[fresh flint]

And the overall shit quality of skins and cosmetics

[swift tree]

Their studio website lists all the games their team are inspired by

[burnt tree]

not better than valorant or overwatch

[fallow marlin]

whenever i see overwatch

[past ginkgo]

I mean just look at Marathon

[fallow marlin]

it makes me sad and angry

[burnt tree]

?

[past ginkgo]

Wth happened to Bungie

[fresh flint]

They’re never going to make something to outdo these two

[teal thistle]

Another W skin

[burnt tree]

why is scalp showing skins we have

[swift tree]

consumed by microsoft

[fallow marlin]

bungie we know is no longer bungie

[burnt tree]

yeah

[fallow marlin]

none of the original team is in there anymore

[past ginkgo]

Yeah bungie is fucking trash now

[teal thistle]

We dont have that one

o3o

[wicked blade]

WTF

I want it

[fallow marlin]

too busy stealing artwork

[teal thistle]

WHAT???'

[burnt tree]

weve had them like 2 months now

[past ginkgo]

We had that for months, even before my break LOL

[slender sky]

when glazing goes wrong

[swift tree]

studio executives fire devs between projects, but when they moved into the MMO space they kept doing that kinda shit, so a long-term game is made by constantly rotating developers using their own programming/design choices that makes the entire game become shizo af

[burnt tree]

we got them in March or something

if not february

[fallow marlin]

i found it hilarious the moment bungie release marathon

nexon releases arc raiders

killing the game

[teal thistle]

Ohhh lmao

[wicked blade]

Bro it is not that censored. People on West are just dumb

[teal thistle]

China still numa one

https://tenor.com/view/china-gif-26678009

[past ginkgo]

Yeh Nexon released Arc Raiders and it was literally beating Marathon in every aspect

[swift tree]

tf

[wicked blade]

You can get a lot of BC from missions and quests

[past ginkgo]

But Arc Raiders isn't really phenomenal either

[fallow marlin]

it has some interesting mechanics

like the pve monsters using machine learning

[burnt tree]

the green one is thing KR has with exclusive items

[fallow marlin]

to improve everytime

[wicked blade]

LOL

[swift tree]

mileage right

[burnt tree]

yup yup mileage

forgot the word for a sec xdd

[past ginkgo]

Sadly we don't get a lot of mileage stuff in west

[swift tree]

μίλι

[past ginkgo]

They had nice skins there

[wicked blade]

How much did u win?

[swift magnet]

i've farmed a new incap record xD 90s xD actual terrorist run xD

[teal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-anguish-despair-gif-13915908866750092639

[tulip charm]

what is that

[swift magnet]

nothjing worked xD

[swift tree]

livestream gift probably

[teal thistle]

W tencent they dont give plumes

Already better than AGS

https://tenor.com/view/cat-asian-chinese-silly-ccp-gif-17771773925036748435

[wicked blade]

Yuuup

W Tencent

[burnt tree]

why do i feel like ive seen these before

oh right the glazer posted them

[swift tree]

Glazed like a Donut after Surv is done with it

[wicked blade]

Do you have China generally? I'm curious

[burnt tree]

Anyway gonna go get coffee and pie sent my report for work

[burnt tree]

im consuming Chinese drama shows, chinese games[wuwa] and such, i dont hate China, i just hate when you shove down my throat Tencents lost ark non stop.
We have nothing to do with CN, we get some of their features and thats about it, no one glazes SG or AGS and u keep yapping about ppl doing just that, when every region is on fire with both of them for like a month now.
You say u wont spend money on AGS LOA again then ure like "Oh maybe i could swipe 2m gold for gems!" when all youll do is talk shit again and again

[wicked blade]

I'm not responsible with my money and idc to be fair

The moment there is something new and better

I quit the game even if I spent 10k

[burnt tree]

i know ure the kind of person tencent targets

[wicked blade]

And go play other game

[swift tree]

[burnt tree]

so ik why u glaze it

i just think ure hypocritical and insufferable

[safe lark]

#MakeDiscordCNfree

[burnt tree]

when u werent like that before

[wicked blade]

I have no sunk-cost fallacy

So yeah

Idc

[burnt tree]

posting CN non stop does nothing for anyone

[swift tree]

what if I start glazing UK-based studio Jagex? (jks i never will)

[past ginkgo]

Pls don't

They suck l0l

[burnt tree]

make ur chat group with ur other glazers and do the orgy together

[wicked blade]

In game ads

[swift tree]

yeah no shit, they only made OSRS because they found a 2007 backup by accident

[past ginkgo]

We needed 8 years and many threats as a Runescape community to push them into making better customer support

[swift tree]

sounds like Daybreak ngl

[past ginkgo]

And we still don't know if the end result will be good l0l

[swift tree]

at least you get to vote on it

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-it-gif-18812641

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-gif-23976170

[past ginkgo]

We threatened to mass cancel our subs and many actually did it

[swift tree]

that's a KR thing ours had removed

[past ginkgo]

It worked

[wicked blade]

[burnt tree]

we had it in beta i think and ppl hated it

[swift tree]

I mean its kinda dumb to know whenever someone his a 20+ weapon tap

[past ginkgo]

Best MMO community ever, they are united against greed attempts from Jagex

[burnt tree]

yeah i mean i dont care if another rmtr got +20-25

how does it affect my life

pls tell me

[swift tree]

YOU REMEMBER THE ORB?

[burnt tree]

atleast when i see an idiot get esther i can make fun of them

[wicked blade]

https://tenor.com/view/stay-mad-hoe-gif-11003843196616210826

[safe lark]

ITS IN CHINA, EVERYTHING IS BETTER THERE

[burnt tree]

SO TRUE BESTY

TENCENT TENCENT

[swift tree]

@past ginkgo what if we made a shitty version of miniclip

[burnt tree]

CN CNCNCN

take my moneyyyyyy

[past ginkgo]

I remember 117 working 2 years on his HD plugin for Runelite just so Jagex shut it down within 24 hours, the community went ballistic on Jagex's ass

I loved it

[burnt tree]

yessssss free 600 BC for logging in

awoooo

[past ginkgo]

We all fucked them and called them out

[swift tree]

now Runelite is compatible with Steam xD

[past ginkgo]

They reverted their decision and now 117 HD is one of the most used plugins for OSRS on Runelite

LOL

[slender sky]

i mean it incites fomo, thats all its there for

[past ginkgo]

And yes, we get to vote on updates and content, I love it

[swift tree]

I mean yeah, transparent money grab

[slender sky]

oh nyooooo all the guys are succeeding their taps.....am i falling behind? i should swipe to stay on track

[swift tree]

Deathboi and Raven are going to cream themselves over it

[burnt tree]

they already creaming wym

their monitor is full

[swift tree]

I WONT HAVE TO POST MY TAPS TO DISCORD ANYMORE, ITS FORCED UPON THE PEASANTS MUHAHAHAHA

[safe lark]

i hope they finish in each other on different channel

[past ginkgo]

Imagine the player got the power over what enters the game and what not

Welcome to OSRS

[burnt tree]

just watch scalp end up like raven

[slender sky]

they would prob screenshot their own message and stick it on their fridge

[swift tree]

not even I'm that gay

[tribal aurora]

do we know when the ags stream starts today?

[swift tree]

not a stream, just a video

[burnt tree]

in like 3-4 hours

[wicked blade]

Why are u being shocked every 5m

[burnt tree]

also no stream for us

we suck

we get a pre-recorded video of the Mokoko guy

[tribal aurora]

ok ty for info

[past ginkgo]

Jagex became like that sadly as well

They used to have weekly streams

[tribal aurora]

surely we get the same stuff as china with lost ark 2 XD

[burnt tree]

its ok i wouldnt want to livestream for this kind of community either

[wintry depot]

no?

[swift tree]

ngl live streams are too logistically dumb for them since their region is across 6 different timezones

[surreal gyro]

AGS has never done a live stream even when the game had 100x its playersbase

[wintry depot]

its a prefilmed video

[burnt tree]

its lost ark 2.0 not "2", its an update on the very same game

[wintry depot]

made one month ago

[burnt tree]

also its literally pay2win shit

[surreal gyro]

they havent done a live stream for TL either

[burnt tree]

whale clear raid get top 30 badge from leaderboard

[swift tree]

Why dont AGS livestream? One reason: "When do they host it?"

[past ginkgo]

Honestly, I got a solution for this

Do the livestream anyways and upload the VOD of it on Youtube with timestamps

[swift tree]

because you can't see past the end of your wenis

[burnt tree]

the only relevant things to us are Una changes and Skin inventory and such

[safe lark]

they even react each other msgs

https://tenor.com/view/china-chinese-flag-flag-random-flag-zhot-flag-gif-11526459001314325595

[burnt tree]

irrelevant to TFM

[safe lark]

raven and deathboi

[surreal gyro]

thats not TFM tho

[burnt tree]

im talking about onwards

[surreal gyro]

lmao

literally every new raid release will have a ladder now

[burnt tree]

^

[slender sky]

we will yoink the una changes anyway

[teal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-asian-chinese-silly-ccp-gif-17771773925036748435

[surreal gyro]

it hasnt?

[burnt tree]

yeah Una changes are acceptable

[surreal gyro]

they had 4 weeks of thaemine NM

then 4 weeks of HM

[burnt tree]

you found raven ong

[surreal gyro]

nothing compared to KR/EUNA TFM

[past ginkgo]

No bring the raid difficulties as well with NM/HM/Nightmare Mode

[teal thistle]

Ngl raven is cute

[swift tree]

meanwhile UK version of Lost Ark has male sorc

[burnt tree]

How u gonna split a community of 15k ppl spread across 3 regions in 3 different difficulties?

[wicked blade]

Every raid since Argos has TFM. Baldie is correct

Stop with missinfo

Nothing changes

[past ginkgo]

Tbh that's a good point.

We need more players for that.

[surreal gyro]

its not missinfmo i didnt understand the context

[swift tree]

carefully hack n slashes with abandon

[burnt tree]

did the wig cover ur eyes

[past ginkgo]

Then make NM pleb and HM good

And do TFM for every single new raid

[burnt tree]

they are when it gives rewards

[wicked blade]

They are not

[surreal gyro]

they are whale bait

[past ginkgo]

👍

[swift tree]

well of course you don't, you dont think you're a whale

[wintry depot]

thats literally what they announced

[burnt tree]

CN whales like to show off, u get a badge n shit

[surreal gyro]

if these changes came to the west you two people would be fuming, but just becuase its coming in CN it's "cool"

[wintry depot]

make nm more casual, keep hm that way and tfm for next raids

[past ginkgo]

And hope they announce that coming soon in today's video

[burnt tree]

point still stands

its whale bait

[wintry depot]

today? its not even in kr

[burnt tree]

nothing is hard to grasp

[past ginkgo]

Starting with Act 3 actually, would be nice

[wintry depot]

today's video is filmed since at least a month XDD

[wicked blade]

You pretty much get full 8's by defaults on CN with event.
So only whale who can outdps u are with level 10 and esther

[past ginkgo]

No i said announce

Not today in the game

[wintry depot]

yes

[wicked blade]

But the thing is, most of them suck at the game

So f2p can compete

[wintry depot]

and i said video is filmed since a month

so before it was annoucned in kr

[surreal gyro]

theres no way u think just because they give you full T3 lvl 10 gems that F2P can compete wit hwhales

what am i reading

[past ginkgo]

Who knows maybe they know already since then

[burnt tree]

stupidity

[surreal gyro]

like the bootlicking is out of hand

[wicked blade]

Because Western people are brainrotten

[swift tree]

you'd know, you are one

[burnt tree]

he asks me if i hate china but hes like westerners are rotten

Xi #1 supporter

[surreal gyro]

Westerns are rotten okeyy

[burnt tree]

well yes

[surreal gyro]

how many people got banned in CN for piloting

xDD

[wicked blade]

You are more East then West

[burnt tree]

i just find it hypocritical tho

[wicked blade]

mf

[burnt tree]

im western

i was jsut born on the wrong continent

thats all

[teal thistle]

Ngl he is not wrong

[wicked blade]

Okay, go to NA

[surreal gyro]

u are just being disingenuous and extremely biased

[wicked blade]

We don't claim u

[teal thistle]

[burnt tree]

no thanks thts even worse

they are worse

[swift tree]

tf you think "west" is? Just NA?

[devout nymph]

you are so far western you are eastern again

[teal thistle]

China is better than NA

[devout nymph]

[teal thistle]

[burnt tree]

so true

as i watch Korean drama

[wicked blade]

NA, SA, AUS, West Europe

[past ginkgo]

Holy shit this is spiraling out of control, any mods lol

[burnt tree]

yeah something that only works for CN

[wicked blade]

New mode?

Shit I have to swipe

[surreal gyro]

ull have challenging content in less than a month dw

[burnt tree]

tell me sir scalpboi how will u split 15k players split across 3 regions in 3 different difficulities

[surreal gyro]

Act3

?

xD

[past ginkgo]

@wintry depot Still hope they gonna announce some great QoL today

[surreal gyro]

what?

hahaha okey

[past ginkgo]

Maybe T3 deadzone solution for west

[burnt tree]

mordum isnt challenging

[wicked blade]

Yeah, 15k players. AGS fault

[wintry depot]

i dont expect anything except the announce of when honing nerfs will come

[burnt tree]

here we go again

im not asking why we got 15k players

im saying

[surreal gyro]

we dont have 15k players

where u getting these numbers from

[burnt tree]

splitting 15k players in 3 different raid difficulties isnt sustainable

[wintry depot]

anyway can we stop the conversation, neither parties will change their mind

[burnt tree]

im just evening it out

[surreal gyro]

uwuowo has 50k active rosters above 1660

[burnt tree]

5k on each

ok fine

[safe lark]

xie xie

[wicked blade]

So we only have 50k players in total?

[burnt tree]

but its split across 3 regions

[wicked blade]

[burnt tree]

even in 50k

[surreal gyro]

50k above 1660

rosters

[burnt tree]

yeah

idk what it gives

they didnt say afaik

[wicked blade]

It is for fun mode

[wintry depot]

yes but not equalized iirc

only cosmetics

[past ginkgo]

Hell Mode but not equalized but with exclusive ego rewards

[burnt tree]

no we dont, what we need is unlimited skin slots

[surreal gyro]

CN only has a a bit more players than KR and its a massive region

[burnt tree]

cause im running low

[swift tree]

not everyone has the same experiences as you, you sociopathic sponge of a brainlet
not sure how many times it has to be said if you'll ever grasp that.

not even all that pissy about the CN stuff, but the constant "game is so ez" bullshit when you stacked all the cards in your favour + swiped + bussed (previously)

dude, go fuck yourself.