should I start a list?
#lost-ark-discussions
swift tree
fleet plover
They said it's China Exclussive
swift tree
They said it's China Exclussive
they didn't say exclusive, they said "changes in response to the demands of the CN market"
teal thistle
should I start a list?
Yes please
teal thistle
they didn't say exclusive, they said "changes in response to the demands of the ...
They could give all those changes to us and say "Changes in response to the demands of the NA market"
I remember they mentioned something about repetable content in the AGS survey
I can't wait for the Kr players
To be upset
About this
LOL
swift tree
Yes please
- Solo Endless Dungeon with 100 floors that spits you out with starter gear
- Catastrophe mode is a new baked on version to sit above Hard, Hard becomes medium and normal becomes on-par with Solo (with KR changes)
- Catastrophe includes a seasonal leaderboard (think like the PvP season one that gets updated weekly) it'll probably work like ESO/WoWs
- Gem changes not mentioned because China is awaiting a final decision before they enter Tier 4
swift tree
I remember they mentioned something about repetable content in the AGS survey
most of this stuff is mentioned in the survey
teal thistle
- Solo Endless Dungeon with 100 floors that spits you out with starter gear
- Ca...
Huh?
Those are things that will come
Right?
chrome stratus
- Solo Endless Dungeon with 100 floors that spits you out with starter gear
- Ca...
did they say on stream that they are waiting or they just didnt touch the topic?
swift tree
Those are things that will come
For China (we dont know until tomorrow morning for USA)
swift tree
I was talking about things they have right now
oh, they have QoL adjustments, price nerfs, extra events like Korea, class leaderboards
teal thistle
oh, they have QoL adjustments, price nerfs, extra events like Korea, class leade...
So nothing important
swift tree
did they say on stream that they are waiting or they just didnt touch the topic?
they said waiting for a "final decision" was the direct translation
Stoopz hardcore crashing out
coarse wigeon
safe lark
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swift tree
ngl the battle-arenas are a better design choice than a fucking LoL ripoff
Stoopz is 100% a mood, why can't USA get a livestream instead of just a video dumped onto Youtube
keen copper
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fallow marlin
10 Chinese whales prolly spends more than the entire kr and na region
It's always funny to see inven crash out
swift tree
It's always funny to see inven crash out
Saw the CN flag lol
swift tree
I mean yeah, it keeps NK alive, that alone is enough
fallow marlin
Nah only thing keeping NK alive is america
If the us pulls out nk is fucked by china
The leaderboard thing looks like something
Kr wanted
The rest is eh
It's whatever
swift tree
oof
fallow marlin
We don't really know what his doing
There's some rumors going around
He made a separate team to work a new game
Apparently 1.8million players participated in one of their events
CN is just different
swift tree
There's some rumors going around
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/business/companies/20200713/nexon-smilegates-reliance-on-tencent-raising-eyebrows oof guess the warnings were there
fallow marlin
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/business/companies/20200713/nexon-smilegates-relian...
That's been normal
No idea about nexon
But smilegate last time I saw 90% of their revenue was from crossfire
And that was all in cn
uncut dirge
isn't crossfire absolutely massive as a game tho
uncut dirge
last i heard it was "bigger than CS"
swift tree
Yeah it's also the game that Tencent used to move from Social media to gaming
fallow marlin
Because valve didn't understand the market
1.6 was pretty popular here
But got shutdown
Blizzard didn't why starcraft took off
fallow marlin
Yes
uncut dirge
have you heard of the game Beyond All Reason
fallow marlin
uncut dirge
i see
fallow marlin
Even league is considered a boomer game now
uncut dirge
what's not boomer then
fallow marlin
Valorant
uncut dirge
my condolences
fallow marlin
Highest 10-19 playerbase
It's like 60%
I know in China it was honor of kings
The mobile game
low nebula
https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-looking-up-cat-look-up-kitten-look-up-gif-13486805289139588631
uncut dirge
anyway thanks!
tawny lion
They will be even more upset after this CN LOAON LOL
Koreans like to eat dog feces and are happy with gem changes so who cares? They see this game as an investment what a joke
They prioritize economy and investments over fun
teal thistle
CHINA #1 !!!!
Bro lately CN have been top1 on every single thing
They are taking on Anime too
Its a good time to learn Chinese
vagrant cradle
low nebula
yea would they unnerf their hard?
swift tree
thats our hardmode difficulty
the point is that it isn't a nm/hm yes/no, it's third optional tier that doesn't include gold.
without the bs of hellmode
low nebula
what is the reward?
swift tree
"special cosmetic and roster unlocks"
low nebula
good then
swift tree
basically hellmode, but for Kazeros Raids
since it starts w/ echidna
(Behemoth included)
it also matches the Director's previous stream of thinking that normal group mode will be on parity with solo
so it's not entirely in a vacuum
low nebula
yea im just confused who does the change and why streams are offset
swift tree
yea im just confused who does the change and why streams are offset
timezone differences for CN/LOA no clue about Smilegate
low nebula
who is making changes, china own dev team or smilegate?
surreal gyro
who is making changes, china own dev team or smilegate?
they had one of the 3 bozos from smilegate on the livestream so i think SG was developing
teal thistle
who is making changes, china own dev team or smilegate?
China
surreal gyro
no its not just china
low nebula
swift tree
who is making changes, china own dev team or smilegate?
from the external view? "We game up with ideas together"
realistically? "Tencent paid Smilegate a shit tonne of money to customise our game for the region"
surreal gyro
just because they are going their own way it dsnt mean SG is not developing the content
teal thistle
they had one of the 3 bozos from smilegate on the livestream so i think SG was d...
They pay the SG devs to make content unique for the CN server
I think thats how it works
surreal gyro
yes so its SG developing
teal thistle
China #1 !!!!!!!
low nebula
sir you literally changed response 2 msges later
teal thistle
sir you literally changed response 2 msges later
China still number one bro
low nebula
swift tree
They pay the SG devs to make content unique for the CN server
see my message
surreal gyro
with competitive leadboards
rocky plume
what cost a 1655 blade on china?
teal thistle
with competitive leadboards
Based
surreal gyro
how is that based
we got Thaemine race and u all went ballistic
its a p2w fest there
surreal gyro
i didnt hear people saying its fine when we got the Thaemine race
teal thistle
i didnt hear people saying its fine when we got the Thaemine race
I didn't complain about i t
surreal gyro
still
u guys think CN is super happy about the live stream, they were not
u need to calm down with the glazing
surreal gyro
Saint had a top player from China on his stream
teal thistle
surreal gyro
and they were complainig that they dont address the main pain points of the game
they just make game more p2w heavy
some changes were good
but not all of them
surreal gyro
what gem changes?
surreal gyro
they didnt say anything about Gems outside of the fact that they will announce them when the time is right
and KR dsnt have the gem changes in the game yet
so idk what u on about
keen copper
what is this white knighting 
teal thistle
what is this white knighting <a:OMEGADANCE:468325096050786314>
Chine white knight!
China*
surreal gyro
ye but u are saying stuff thats not accurate
surreal gyro
someone asked about gems in the QnA and they said they will announce the changes when the time is right
teal thistle
We don't know what yet tho
surreal gyro
yes so ?
teal thistle
We don't know yet
teal thistle
We don't
teal thistle
#1 emote
Now im really interested on LOAON for kr
They HAVE to do major changes
low nebula
i guess its same what china said
lunar musk
summon china patch
spark mauve
teal thistle
spark mauve
tulip charm
i was joking when i said cn raids heal the players on attacks
teal thistle
tulip charm
but i guess its not joke anymore, you can't even wipe in normal raids they said
teal thistle
but i guess its not joke anymore, you can't even wipe in normal raids they said
Thats good
tulip charm
give it another few month lost ark cn will become a mobile game
with a leaderboard for lv11 gem sideral users only
jolly obsidian
Auto battle game when? Then the game will finally be saved
tulip charm
its what the people want and deserve!!!
coarse wigeon
with a leaderboard for lv11 gem sideral users only
but is it fun
teal thistle
We need auto battle yeah
tulip charm
fk no, i don't want any of that shit
teal thistle
fk no, i don't want any of that shit
You dont like mobile games? 😮
tulip charm
You dont like mobile games? 😮
you do? i don't
teal thistle
you do? i don't
I do like to play autobattle games as a side game
bitter lichen
covert remnant
Anyone know why TF there's a 5 blue crystal tax? Why does it say 100 crystals but gives 95?
swift tree
Anyone know why TF there's a 5 blue crystal tax? Why does it say 100 crystals bu...
So you have to buy more, literally only reason. Also why RC prices are halfway between $20 and $50 pack
low nebula
Anyone know why TF there's a 5 blue crystal tax? Why does it say 100 crystals bu...
thats just greed, cos 95 vs 100 are both same
its like pheons, to make "market work"
greed
swift tree
Ayo what did i wake up to
Wake up Saebae, Lost Ark 2 announced
burnt tree
Wdym we can make out with Brel in her illusion world??
swift tree
Wdym we can make out with Brel in her illusion world??
No but you get trapped in halls of transcendence / endless paradise and clear 100 floors to get starter gear.
Solo Hell Trial
Hellmode for Kazeros Raids that is original HM without QoL and gives cosmetics
Leaderboard for classes based on Kazeros Hellmode
Cosmetic Transmog
Oh… nvm this is just China
slender sky
What the fuck is Lost Ark 2.0
just the usual yapping of clueless ppl
burnt tree
No but you get trapped in halls of transcendence / endless paradise and clear 10...
Yeah I'm just memeing
devout nymph
cn using recycled content to please the yappers
burnt tree
Una delete is good otherwise the rest seems standard chinese games stuff
Just waiting for Raven to glaze it
swift tree
Una delete is good otherwise the rest seems standard chinese games stuff
I mean rest is what most MMOs have
rocky plume
swift tree
bringing back bossrush
but less shit and actually difficult
burnt tree
I never liked boss rush, why would i wanna do a harder version of it
swift tree
“difficult” by that I mean less of a button mash
slender sky
Just waiting for Raven to glaze it
did he pass lvl20 yet in that region?
rocky plume
burnt tree
did he pass lvl20 yet in that region?
Yeah he bought power pass and express pack for 60 dollars
devout nymph
but less shit and actually difficult
i mean i welcome content but thats not the one im welcoming
its like
bringing back the old cube system
burnt tree
i mean i welcome content but thats not the one im welcoming
Do you not like just MORE raiding?
devout nymph
hall of trials
burnt tree
And nothing else?
swift tree
bringing back the old cube system
Old cube was worse
slender sky
Yeah he bought power pass and express pack for 60 dollars
did he actually or did he just say it, should always require videoproof with pathological liars
burnt tree
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED MARU
devout nymph
Old cube was worse
the 100 floor thing sound slike a recycle of it unironically
burnt tree
did he actually or did he just say it, should always require videoproof with pat...
He probably did
swift tree
the 100 floor thing sound slike a recycle of it unironically
Didn’t mention survival rooms though
slender sky
why do they even bring out content in china tho? when whaling costs as much as a happy meal theres not really a point to play in the first place
just whale and log out for a couple months until next whale
burnt tree
If he glazed CN while being only lvl 20 is a new level of low
slender sky
uhhhh raid*
swift tree
If he glazed CN while being only lvl 20 is a new level of low
was glazing the lottery giveaways mistaking them for event stuff
burnt tree
Lmao
subtle cliff
That's wild
swift tree
Granted so was everyone (and myself) misreading the final page of the livestream
burnt tree
Is whaling in china that easy
Rmt is legal so whales have it good
past ginkgo
How are F2P's fucked lmao
uncut dirge
just the content stuff sucks
past ginkgo
make it make sense
swift tree
F2Ps are fucked in all versions, it’s a vertical progression game released as a freemium game.
Endless Paradise just looks like stuff to get people in the door for CN outside of Raids
subtle cliff
swift tree
UNLIMITED SKIN SLOTS?!
Transmog
burnt tree
NANIO
uncut dirge
you know what we need for the game
swift tree
Whole separate system
subtle cliff
It's ok guys just wait for aion 2 next year
uncut dirge
you know how solo raids have the buffs
past ginkgo
Where is that fucking stream anyways
uncut dirge
we should get that whenever you do content solo
so supports get their damage increases
slender sky
F2Ps are fucked in all versions, it’s a vertical progression game released as a...
the cheaper rmt/whaling is, the more fked you are
burnt tree
you know what we need for the game
Seggs!
uncut dirge
dpses get their built in yearnings
swift tree
the cheaper rmt/whaling is, the more fked you are
So our version is least fucked for F2P version
uncut dirge
even thing slike solo cubes
solo cubes are miserable
meanwhile party cubes are bots
(for T3)
slender sky
So our version is least fucked for F2P version
as is? yes. it used to be kr until the giga packs released
slender sky
make it make sense
its pretty obvious lmao
swift tree
Tier 3 Room 4 bosses swatting sorc bots like they’re flies
burnt tree
CN getting LoA 2.0
Global getting EoS 1.0
slender sky
yea t4 cubes are so much better than t3
t3 are just so overtuned
in like all levels outside of level 1 and 2
burnt tree
Why T4 cube eassier to solo than T3 cube
swift tree
CN getting LoA 2.0
Global getting EoS 1.0
EoS 3.0
surreal gyro
u guys are so dedge
past ginkgo
CN getting LoA 2.0
Global getting EoS 1.0
So CN suddenly good?
surreal gyro
some changes are good
surreal gyro
other than that its a p2w cash grab patch
swift tree
other than that its a p2w cash grab patch
That’s the whole game
burnt tree
Just more raids
past ginkgo
Why are you guys playing the game xd
swift tree
You’re describing the whole game
uncut dirge
*make all cubes forced-solo
**rebalance for solo
well, yes, but my point is that
the solo mode buffs we have should always be active whenever a player is doing content solo
in everything
errant knot
isnt CN version is 18/5 for livestream?
uncut dirge
even outer world imo
swift tree
the solo mode buffs we have should always be active whenever a player is doing c...
just get vanguard bro
burnt tree
isnt CN version is 18/5 for livestream?
No it was earlier today
swift tree
isnt CN version is 18/5 for livestream?
It’s 17th for USA, but it’s earlier morning there
past ginkgo
CN makes unas weekly?
swift tree
Video goes live in 6 hours
past ginkgo
Entirely?
swift tree
CN makes unas weekly?
No
slender sky
well tbf some of the gameplay loop stuff we will prolly just copy from CN again lmao
swift tree
Rewards from Unas become weekly payout, still contribute towards the point accumulation.
Reputation tiers are still daily based.
swift tree
yeah
surreal gyro
u guys are so weird today with the missinfo
subtle cliff
whats the tldr on the new memo vid
burnt tree
Exubercunt go back to bed
swift tree
whats the tldr on the new memo vid
already posted
past ginkgo
Idk I'm reading through some CN changes and they sound great lmao
surreal gyro
its 1pm whhy would i go to bed
errant knot
hopefully in our server they announced that the raid will be more casual so my friend will come back and play with me again
swift tree
its 1pm whhy would i go to bed
Go take a siesta
burnt tree
its 1pm whhy would i go to bed
Because i said so
past ginkgo
hopefully in our server they announced that the raid will be more casual so my f...
👍
NM casual
slender sky
whats the tldr on the new memo vid
"director sucks, i have tiny arms, wee wee"
surreal gyro
NM is casual currently
slender sky
hopefully in our server they announced that the raid will be more casual so my f...
that its coming is alrdy confirmed, but no one knows when
past ginkgo
NM is casual currently
It's not
swift tree
NM getting made same difficulty parity as Solo, something already said by KR Director.
surreal gyro
whats not casual is people gatekeeping it
burnt tree
NM is casual currently
It isn't
burnt tree
Sorry but the NM difficulty is actually not casual
past ginkgo
Ofc it's EASY for you
errant knot
even with 1000+ hours its still hard for NM
surreal gyro
and very lenient DPS timers
burnt tree
You're a veteran ofc its easy for u
surreal gyro
whats hard about them?
burnt tree
Shut up
slender sky
Whats not casual
single player mistakes causing a whole raid wipe is NOT casual.
surreal gyro
wtf u shut up
past ginkgo
You need to put your perspective into a new player with no experience
burnt tree
No u shut
surreal gyro
WHICH RAID in NM causes a full raid wipe?
burnt tree
WHICH RAID in NM causes a full raid wipe?
Valtan
burnt tree
Lmfao
past ginkgo
im talking about the current NM raids
Thaemine?
burnt tree
He said current
surreal gyro
solo mode for thaemine too
burnt tree
Thaemine is ancient
swift tree
WHICH RAID in NM causes a full raid wipe?
Akkan Stagger, Akkan DPS shield, x55 mech Final Akkan stagger
Aegir Giants Heart 1 / Giant Heart 2, x95 Stagger (if you don’t hidden Ealyn).
Or what?
surreal gyro
Akkan stagger is hard?
burnt tree
Anyways for a new player NM modes aren't casual
past ginkgo
See this is what happens to people who played this game for thousands of hours
burnt tree
Exubercunt speaks from an experienced players position and he's still yapping about it
swift tree
Akkan DPS shield is hard?
Don’t move goalposts, you asked what mechanics can cause a full raid wipe
errant knot
if its so ez like you say there will not be any issue about the raid difficulty
past ginkgo
You don't even know what is hard for a new player
You are used to reclear every week because you got experience
errant knot
even the dev know the raid are difficult
surreal gyro
the issue is people getting gatekept to enter the raid , the raids themselves on NM are easy
swift tree
Just go to bed +25 DB main
Why do Bard mains have Assassin main energy?
surreal gyro
and me having 1000s of hours has nothing to do with that ive joined plenty of learning lobbies to help newbies
burnt tree
Why do Bard mains have Assassin main energy?
Yandere
burnt tree
You're cursed with knowledge sir
surreal gyro
im cursed with cahtting with delulu people
burnt tree
How can you fill a cup if its already full
slender sky
Exubercunt speaks from an experienced players position and he's still yapping ab...
no hes talking from a delulu position. his "points" on gem changes were absolutely cooked aswell. thats what it does to your brain if you spend 20hours a day cycling between reddit, twitter and discord
craggy parrot
maybe with our new cn overlords we can finally get class change ticket
swift tree
- Not every player will be playing with you
- You still had to instruct them
burnt tree
no hes talking from a delulu position. his "points" on gem changes were absolute...
But i do this every day and im not cooked
slender sky
<:Hmmm:878301956710465627> maybe with our new cn overlords we can finally get c...
that is never going to happen
past ginkgo
<:Hmmm:878301956710465627> maybe with our new cn overlords we can finally get c...
In CN probably, not here LOL
slender sky
But i do this every day and im not cooked
sullen meteor
CN is a pretty separate entity now
craggy parrot
Just like solo raids were never gonna happen
burnt tree
Always has been
burnt tree
I've been saying since CN came out they shouldn't be drawing comparisons with em xD
swift tree
Just like solo raids were never gonna happen
Solo raids are never going to happen wdym
surreal gyro
before you jump into conclusions
burnt tree
AGS hasnt even released their video yet
End of Service 
slender sky
Just like solo raids were never gonna happen
solo raids dont kill off a substantial chunk of your income
errant knot
1) Not every player will be playing with you
2) You still had to instruct them
imagine playing a game but people keep yapping about the raid mech rather than play the game for new player xD
sullen meteor
It's just gonna be more of the same slop
swift tree
can u WAIT
The normal mode change was announced by KR in the previous livestream.
surreal gyro
imagine playing a game but people keep yapping about the raid mech rather than p...
he is cooked , as if people dont read guides and what not
surreal gyro
then why would they do the video today
slender sky
People quitting
ppl dont quit over non existant class change tickets when the game overall is in a good state.
swift tree
imagine playing a game but people keep yapping about the raid mech rather than p...
huh
burnt tree
swift magnet
only expect the worse outcome and no copium in my case. i am happy if the worst case doesnt come
craggy parrot
? People quit all the time because their class is dog and they arnt gonna start new
swift magnet
surreal gyro
waht does it matter? as long as the info is valuable thats what matters
surreal gyro
? People quit all the time because their class is dog and they arnt gonna start ...
oh come on which class cant clear content they do balance changes all the time
burnt tree
? People quit all the time because their class is dog and they arnt gonna start ...
People who quit over that shouldn't game in the first place
Balance is a cycle
If you quit cause shits so ass go play Pokémon on switch
craggy parrot
Every class can clear doesn’t mean that every change is good
past ginkgo
Tommy got it right, game needs to be in a good state for the entire playerbase
sullen meteor
Also what classes are "dog" even
burnt tree
CO
subtle cliff
co summoner 
swift magnet
i switched back to reflux from ognite cuz its more fun to me. dont care about those high numbers if its not as fun as reflux
surreal gyro
until recently
burnt tree
CO in Korea is awesome now tho
sullen meteor
Yeah what else
surreal gyro
but u can switch to MS
burnt tree
Reflux has been good since T4 launced
swift tree
Only bad dps line is True Courage and that’s because it’s Bard
sullen meteor
CO in Korea is awesome now tho
Exactly now its actually decent
swift magnet
CO in Korea is awesome now tho
i wanna switch abck to co too 😛 tried master summoenr and its sooo clunky xD
past ginkgo
Only bad dps line is True Courage and that’s because it’s Bard
Recurrence sucks too tbh
sullen meteor
Shitting on Reflux is very valtan era
swift tree
Recurrence sucks too tbh
Just get good
burnt tree
Yeah shitting on reflux atp is ???
past ginkgo
Like if I take sups on their DPS spec, Paladin wins by a long shot
swift magnet
Reflux has been good since T4 launced
i do more dmg as reflux than igniter in most raids xD i am such a bad igniter xD
burnt tree
Lmao
burnt tree
I like igniter now that they have free blink
swift magnet
it's not bad igniter but i dont like it as much as reflux
burnt tree
NE buffs when
surreal gyro
yeah
slender sky
it's not bad igniter but i dont like it as much as reflux
imo reflux ark passive is kinda lacking aswell. the whole "adding buffs to certain skills" is not it
slender sky
why would we
slender sky
hes a good talker, was a terrible director
safe lark
there was no gold river
past ginkgo
They make NM easier, HM stays kinda the same, but they add a new and even harder difficulty as well
slender sky
Don't make me come over there
you actually think goldriver did good, as a director?
thats actuall crazy
swift magnet
imo reflux ark passive is kinda lacking aswell. the whole "adding buffs to certa...
it could be betetr ya but i dont think its bad. cuz i've used blink to reposition even before they've added buffs. so its whatever to me. not whatever i didnt change my playstyle and get boni on top of that
burnt tree
you actually think goldriver did good, as a director?
Communication wise yeah
burnt tree
But he wasn't perfect
slender sky
terrible director
past ginkgo
burnt tree
He used to be a journalist of He's a good talker
swift magnet
goldriver wasa good salesmen
past ginkgo
BRO CN HAS THE CLUE OH MY GOD
burnt tree
Yeah make people quit more
swift magnet
set up this new director as god
burnt tree
Throw them a third base difficulty
past ginkgo
Yeah make people quit more
No there is difficulty for every player now
swift magnet
and it tuens out the new one is alcking in all parts compared to goldriver xD
low nebula
saint goes over all of it for like 30 mins now, you can check vod
past ginkgo
NM for the plebs, HM for the veterans, EM for the sweaty tryhards
burnt tree
and it tuens out the new one is alcking in all parts compared to goldriver xD
Most things the new director did were already overseen by Gold River
past ginkgo
This is exactly what I want, give every player their preferred difficulty, you make everyone happy
burnt tree
I just want the unlimited skin slots
swift magnet
this i dont know. good for palyers that wants a challenge but split the palyerbase even more
burnt tree
And im good
slender sky
it could be betetr ya but i dont think its bad. cuz i've used blink to repositio...
which is pretty lackluster, other classes got fancy X, we got a buff to blink
empty sleet
i was close
past ginkgo
I think Hell Mode had so much potential
swift magnet
Most things the new director did were already overseen by Gold River
also true ya
past ginkgo
But the problem with it was the old ancient book style stats you need to apply
Just made it feel ancient now and trash
And other than getting the title, no more incentives to do hell mode
burnt tree
also true ya
Maybe this coming Winter LOAN ON if game isn't dead we see new director stuff
vocal pollen
hey gregg, ready for potential omega long maint this week?
burnt tree
i open my mobile phone and this is what i see
Oh yeah same
low nebula
i open my mobile phone and this is what i see
not that drastic
burnt tree
But ure using Light theme
slender sky
i open my mobile phone and this is what i see
classic reddit moment
swift magnet
And other than getting the title, no more incentives to do hell mode
i am too bad for hell mode but i agree that even hell mode should give progression as nm,hm
burnt tree
So you need to perish
swift magnet
how much idk but some things for this community
empty sleet
i'd like to think i'm not
past ginkgo
i am too bad for hell mode but i agree that even hell mode should give progressi...
Yeah, hell mode is wasted potential, it's so sad to see because this is peak raiding experience for a tryhard player
burnt tree
Then why you make stupid question.
past ginkgo
You have no reason to go back there after your deathless clear
low nebula
so what now, do we just stop playing?
we wait today announcement and monday+ announcement of me getting unbanned 
burnt tree
CN is doing their own thing
Drawing comparisons between our regions was idiotic from the start
empty sleet
we wait today announcement and monday+ announcement of me getting unbanned <:COP...
another case of "announcement of announcement" i see
meager hill
also why would you stop playing
empty sleet
we wait today announcement and monday+ announcement of me getting unbanned <:COP...
its ok bro, just play lost ark 2 u wont be banned there
burnt tree
Yeah
empty sleet
ah
slender sky
also why would you stop playing
prolly coz he took the title as literal and thinks theres loa 2.0 coming out
low nebula
nah im not playing ever other amazon games, they just cant
burnt tree
Gregg
past ginkgo
Tell me does Lost Ark 2.0 atleast get an engine upgrade
burnt tree
You're stupid.
empty sleet
ok
past ginkgo
Because if it's stays UE3, what is the point
low nebula
Tell me does Lost Ark 2.0 atleast get an engine upgrade
bro its just new dungeon
empty sleet
they probably shouldve themed like any other update, instead of calling it lost ark 2
meager hill
guys, it's just a big update
burnt tree
They called it "2.0" not "2"
pulsar owl
so like when do we get this 2.0 update
burnt tree
We aren't
meager hill
that's the neat part, we don't
low nebula
fuckin reddit
burnt tree
Are we China? Are we owned by Tencent?
meager hill
past ginkgo
This game needs to move on from UE3, it's about damn time
burnt tree
Why are people like this
vocal pollen
my copium is that our version pulls a FF14 once Kazeros "dies" 
empty sleet
me agree very much
meager hill
stop expecting the game to "move" from ue3
past ginkgo
stop expecting the game to "move" from ue3
Imagine Lost Ark in UE5
meager hill
stuff like that doesn't happen unless a completely new version is released
slender sky
stop expecting the game to "move" from ue3
ppl are just crazy delusional
past ginkgo
What they could do with the game
burnt tree
stop expecting the game to "move" from ue3
It can but is it worth the cost for Smilegate? Probably not
past ginkgo
Mobile ffs
burnt tree
Yupp
meager hill
nah, it would take them like 2-3 years straight of full steam dev to recreate everything in ue5
vocal pollen
Lost Ark idle game
low nebula
Imagine Lost Ark in UE5
low fps, constant stutters and pop ups? 😄
burnt tree
low fps, constant stutters and pop ups? 😄
Get a better PC
meager hill
there's barely anything they could "move" over
swift tree
nah, it would take them like 2-3 years straight of full steam dev to recreate ev...
and with how much has to be reconverted, it might as well be a new game
past ginkgo
I've had no issues with UE5 games
same high-end PC does the job
lyric fjord
low fps, constant stutters and pop ups? 😄
ue3 laggs because you get XP text in chat? yeah no ty ^^
past ginkgo
👍
low nebula
Get a better PC
nah its ue5 inherent issue, everyone always have it on all consoles
fallow marlin
They already said it's possible but they literally won't be adding any content for 3 years
If they do that
past ginkgo
They already said it's possible but they literally won't be adding any content f...
I figured, so it's similar to BnS going from UE3 to UE4
swift tree
ue3 laggs because you get XP text in chat? yeah no ty ^^
that's EAC ngl
past ginkgo
Where they gonna recycle models and content on a big scale
lyric fjord
that's EAC ngl
no its the same on other ue3 games
fallow marlin
And that failed royally in bns
past ginkgo
And that failed royally in bns
oh yes it did
fallow marlin
Almost eosd the game
burnt tree
I figured, so it's similar to BnS going from UE3 to UE4
NCsoft also delayed UE4 like twice
fallow marlin
Better of making lost ark 2
burnt tree
I kinda quit BnS after UE4 anyway
swift tree
no its the same on other ue3 games
I mean text chat in most UE3 shit is bundled together with twine and rubber bands, but EAC would 100% be making it 100x worse
fallow marlin
Than spending resource on migrating
empty sleet
now that lost ark 2 is coming out, we need fresh moderators, i'd like to start by nominating myself
who agrees
slender sky
no for average armchair player on discord its a simple copy paste. ue5 lost ark by next wednesday
burnt tree
Someone make Gregg shut it
devout nymph
slender sky
who agrees
hi gregg, bye gregg
burnt tree
Undeserved
empty sleet
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
how much silver
devout nymph
thats the loot
swift tree
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
Infinitely more fate embers than what CriErr will get all week
burnt tree
Bruh
past ginkgo
I like CN's approach on raid difficulties, Smilegate should consider this for KR and the other versions too.
vocal pollen
now that lost ark 2 is coming out, we need fresh moderators, i'd like to start b...
go play on the cn version, maybe you'll have better timed maint hours 🙃
burnt tree
Imagine CN announcing 2.0 update and we get some "Rimeria ayayitty yay"
swift tree
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
I updated my game and my Fate Embers look weird now
empty sleet
bro i dont even play this game for this week
slender sky
we lost gari
past ginkgo
I updated my game and my Fate Embers look weird now
grinding the feathers I see
vocal pollen
why lost me?
past ginkgo
time for 3-tick fishing
swift tree
go play on the cn version, maybe you'll have better timed maint hours 🙃
you joke, but I literally would
swift magnet
me agree very much
i dont. maybe the qol and game version itself is better compared to the west but tencent has an even more predatory mindset than sg. i see the ppl cry who wishes tencent to take ags place for the west if that happens
burnt tree
why lost me?
You dead wipe yourself up
slender sky
why lost me?
you seem a little doomerish lately 
swift tree
You dead wipe yourself up
that's not death, that's just crippling diarrhea
vocal pollen
I mean, I said it because gregg almost every week comes in here and talks about maint being at shit time for him, on his only day off
empty sleet
i didnt even play this wednesday
vocal pollen
not wrong
swift tree
You dead wipe yourself up
"They say when you die you crap your violent shidding noises-
burnt tree
Never take days off, never work still get paid
empty sleet
yeah just let me change my job one second
vocal pollen
ez clappa
slender sky
i dont. maybe the qol and game version itself is better compared to the west but...
the monetary state of the game over there is completely fked
swift magnet
the monetary state of the game over there is completely fked
yus
vocal pollen
you seem a little doomerish lately <:PepoCry:491900394725965824>
yeah, just not the best mental state irl, so took what roxx said in that video as 
the whole "well see how far that goes"
burnt tree
Swiping on CN is cheaper but everyone whose F2P gets fucked more than here
burnt tree
Raven is the type of player Tencent targets anyway
slender sky
yeah, just not the best mental state irl, so took what roxx said in that video a...
i did too initially, but watching it back its more of a like "how far we can tease things"
swift tree
yeah, just not the best mental state irl, so took what roxx said in that video a...
that just means how much of the year this roadmap will cover, not "how far the game will last"
burnt tree
Mid to High spender
vocal pollen
yeah
craggy parrot
Once we get those kr packs it’ll suck to be f2p here to
burnt tree
Who likes standing above others
vocal pollen
yeah, I mean, he did pretty much say who gives a fuck about the f2p players earlier
burnt tree
Once we get those kr packs it’ll suck to be f2p here to
I'll buy those ngl
vocal pollen
lmao
past ginkgo
How so, his 1700 blade does less dps than my aero
vocal pollen
past ginkgo
vocal pollen
Aero op
slender sky
Who likes standing above others
doesnt he get ridiculed for his damage by literally everyone on this discord that dares playing with him?
swift magnet
Raven is the type of player Tencent targets anyway
raven shouldnt be allowed to play. he shits on every game he is palying and whiteknighting it at the same time xD
burnt tree
Yeah lmao
craggy parrot
I'll buy those ngl
low key same
burnt tree
doesnt he get ridiculed for his damage by literally everyone on this discord tha...
Yupp
vocal pollen
The PoE 2 / Last Epoch arc was funny
one day saying x game is trash, the next saying it's great, the next saying the other game is absolute dogshit
burnt tree
<:bceStare2:593020248395874315> low key same
90k weapon crystals and 6k abidos is insane
Like ???
That's more than a month of grinding
swift tree
one day saying x game is trash, the next saying it's great, the next saying the ...
must be a chronic streamer enjoyer
past ginkgo
Those KR packs are disgusting
craggy parrot
+25 in two months
vocal pollen
going from saying that PoE 2 is only for masochists and that he like, doesn't wanna play it, to saying it's the absolute best
vocal pollen
must be a chronic streamer enjoyer
nah, he calls all streamers just big crybabies
past ginkgo
That's way more than a month of lifeskills
slender sky
at this point hes like the mascot of this server that no one takes seriously anyway and gets made fun of on the daily
low nebula
The PoE 2 / Last Epoch arc was funny
i was hypers af for poe2, cos i was promised good slow game with combat
turned out shit.
burnt tree
He belongs in his own category
swift tree
@past ginkgo yeah but they're disgusting in a millionaire's shortbread kinda way. They're fucking awful for your health (and for the game), they're tasty as fuck and not really worth the $ considering its made of cheap ass ingredients
vocal pollen
I like Last Epoch, was talking about how I was excited for it, and pointed out how all the streamers leaving poe2 to play it, cause PoE 2 was in a bad state, and he's just like, yeah, they're just crybabies, they're only playing it for the money /hairflip
empty sleet
6k abidos i buy 3 times easy
burnt tree
Gregg go sleep
empty sleet
i just woke up
burnt tree
Same
empty sleet
i dont live in america where time is wrong
burnt tree
But you should sleep
slender sky
I like Last Epoch, was talking about how I was excited for it, and pointed out h...
god forbid ppl just enjoy games
burnt tree
For like one more day
slender sky
for the moment
low nebula
I like Last Epoch, was talking about how I was excited for it, and pointed out h...
but all the money in poe2 content, cos poe2 even being subpar hold incredible amount of concurrent players on steam
burnt tree
Since when ure EUCing
past ginkgo
The only thing I want for west now is better raid difficulties, a better way for new players to catch up, style book (PLEASE) and the unlimited skin thingie
swift magnet
vocal pollen
god forbid ppl just enjoy games
ikr? any time last epoch was brought up, he'd bring up their steam player chart, and then PoE's, and go like, yea, why play this dead game when this game has #x more players
past ginkgo
ikr? any time last epoch was brought up, he'd bring up their steam player chart,...
Steam chart andy
devout nymph
past ginkgo
that is the issue
vocal pollen
Steam chart andy
tru
devout nymph
i think it prob is due extra swift
past ginkgo
Like RS3 has 15k players CCU, who cares people still love it and play it
swift magnet
swift tree
Steam chart andy
Sounds like an Asmongold watcher ngl
past ginkgo
And their community has fun playing it
burnt tree
We get Lost Ark 3.0 in Global today yay
burnt tree
Furry
vocal pollen
and the thing is, you point out that one is a smaller company, and the other has been around for like, 10 years, and has more of a following, they're just like, yep, but still bigger numbers
low nebula
oh a furry
vocal pollen
https://tenor.com/view/mental-diseases-gif-15734914466993843010
gib dat book pls
empty sleet
ok guys i go to coal mines, if they do update to lost ark 2 save me spot
past ginkgo
BnS was on like 3000 players for years but people enjoyed it anyways, who cares how much player numbers
past ginkgo
If Code is like that, he should go play Fortnite or something LMAO
swift magnet
swift tree
https://tenor.com/view/mental-diseases-gif-15734914466993843010
Bit of spicy image to post, but fuck it.
swift magnet
2 embers
vocal pollen
BnS was on like 3000 players for years but people enjoyed it anyways, who cares ...
the most fun I had was on RO private servers that had like, 300 max players
swift magnet
and not xp or silver
burnt tree
omm only smol amount of tokens in here? first time seeing it
Got this like 5 times xd
Just 5 tokens per mob instead of 2-3 or w.e
past ginkgo
the most fun I had was on RO private servers that had like, 300 max players
I played a Runescape private server once with 600 players, but it was one of the most fun things I played
swift magnet
Got this like 5 times xd
so its whatever xD
slender sky
Bit of spicy image to post, but fuck it.
thats pretty tame lmao
burnt tree
Man i miss Jade Dynasty
swift tree
I played a Runescape private server once with 600 players, but it was one of the...
That's just called playing on an AU OSRS server
no joke
past ginkgo
slender sky
i played lineage2 private servers for years too, and they never were more than a couple thousand players and only lasted for pretty short times, but that doesnt rly matter if you dont consider gaming an investment lmao
past ginkgo
I'm playing on 464, that has always 1k people online
slender sky
OH NO MY GEM LOST 5DOLLAR OF VALUE
burnt tree
ayo i played L2 private servers a lot too
past ginkgo
Screw you Guardians of the rift world
swift tree
slowly getting there
vocal pollen
yeah, ragnarok online private servers never usually lasted long 
but they were fun when you found a good one you could play on
burnt tree
Do we know when AGS posts the Lost Ark EoS 3.0 video?
slender sky
ayo i played L2 private servers a lot too
castle sieges will be the single best thing an mmo ever did ever
past ginkgo
Do we know when AGS posts the Lost Ark EoS 3.0 video?
No it's gonna be EoS 4.0 soon watch
forest flicker
I’m CN player ask me anything 🙂
burnt tree
castle sieges will be the single best thing an mmo ever did ever
oh yeah and u get ur crown if ure the guild leader of a castle
past ginkgo
burnt tree
peak
burnt tree
I’m CN player ask me anything 🙂
u know any single cute chinese chicks?
slender sky
oh yeah and u get ur crown if ure the guild leader of a castle
and olympiad where you get the glow
thorn basin
u know any single cute chinese chicks?
YES
vocal pollen
<t:1747497600:F> - <t:1747501200:F> new AGS Video
forest flicker
u know any single cute chinese chicks?
Me
past ginkgo
I think the most annoying thing is the WuWa glazing ngl lol
past ginkgo
It reminds me of a kurobot
vocal pollen
yeah
burnt tree
ok did u make a lobby?
vocal pollen
they said it'd be around 9 or 10am pdt
burnt tree
ok omw
forest flicker
Pretty ez rn.
vocal pollen
just like the video... tuesday?
past ginkgo
@low nebula posting facts in saint chat, thank you
forest flicker
My main is 1630 with 5 1625 Alts I can’t speak for gatekeeping 🌝
fleet plover
I’m CN player ask me anything 🙂
How is it feels to play the best Region? 
past ginkgo
Nah you are right with the Genshin take
forest flicker
But for thamaine hard we expect at least lv 9 Dmg gems
forest flicker
How is it feels to play the best Region? <:mokokoAngry:964974968242835506>
Just swipe my cards 💳
burnt tree
npnp
limber salmon
CN is cooking rn. When the kr itself still managed by diablo immortal director 10000% died game.
💀
burnt tree
why are these people coming out of the wood work to talk shit
past ginkgo
Genshin walked and worked hard so WuWa can run
meager hill
But 1600-1620 is cheap rn
when you say cheap, how does it compare to this?
https://i.imgur.com/rU5Xggw.png
burnt tree
Genshin walked and worked hard so WuWa can run
Apparently Fleurdelyss ultimate having a loss ass range isnt a bug ayo
forest flicker
Btw for the gem situation CN said in QA T4 would be a good time for them to do some changes to gem systems but they are still working on a solution
slender sky
why are these people coming out of the wood work to talk shit
just wait until ags video to see real carnage
forest flicker
Yup
burnt tree
just wait until ags video to see real carnage
im banned on official so i cant see carnage
Tommy u can screenshare thanks
slender sky
im banned on official so i cant see carnage
it will be here too dont worry
slender sky
Tommy u can screenshare thanks
im banned there too
swift tree
just wait until ags video to see real carnage
I have the cursed scottish cat in the hat screaming IM SO EXCITED rn
burnt tree
gg
slender sky
I have the cursed scottish cat in the hat screaming IM SO EXCITED rn
the what
swift tree
devout nymph
past ginkgo
We're all banned there 
slender sky
Wait tommy also banned on official now
wdym now
devout nymph
random pack form chaos
vocal pollen
i'm not banned
forest flicker
Either Qq or WeChat but they ask for your Chinese ssn
slender sky
im banned there since a long ass time
burnt tree
time to gambito
past ginkgo
im banned there since a long ass time
I remember you from release, I got banned the same year l0l
forest flicker
No SSN no entry
burnt tree
shibal
past ginkgo
From shieldmaiden xD
limber salmon
Its mean more hard acces to playing game on private cn server?
burnt tree
Raven with that chinese SSN
past ginkgo
Yeah responding just one wrong word to shieldmaiden and you were done
burnt tree
Yeah responding just one wrong word to shieldmaiden and you were done
she had dm'd me all nice and cutesy to ask me to promote new skins cause she saw ppl say i buy them
low nebula
Nah you are right with the Genshin take
yea i know, i never played it but watched their gdc and tech artist break down of it
well and zones itself amazing
low nebula
and lost ark got kurzan :/
vocal pollen
past ginkgo
yea i know, i never played it but watched their gdc and tech artist break down o...
The 3.6 zone is one of the best zones they ever made
swift tree
yea i know, i never played it but watched their gdc and tech artist break down o...
ngl looks like ArtStation's trending page for hand-painted-textures
past ginkgo
It's fucking insane
burnt tree
25set
swift tree
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288> 25set
I got 27 set
burnt tree
gg 
past ginkgo
and im banned
I just laughed at one of her takes with "LOL"
That's all it took for my perm
burnt tree
I just laughed at one of her takes with "LOL"
you cant do that
shes very sensitive
for a streamer i thought shed be more used to trolling and internet lang
but i was wrong
slender sky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edmvpPRpx-c
youre ancient right
burnt tree
swift tree
youre ancient right
not that ancient, this movie is mid 2000s
burnt tree
i replied exactly to a guy who said during 2nd anniversary game will eos if ags doesnt get their sht together
low nebula
ngl looks like ArtStation's trending page for hand-painted-textures
yea and the video i watched compared it to zelda 😄
which is basic af
burnt tree
i got banned and apparently he didnt
slender sky
not that ancient, this movie is mid 2000s
how ancient are we speaking, is there a 3 or alrdy a 4 in front
past ginkgo
Yeh I don't like the new Zelda games tbh
past ginkgo
But many others do though
low nebula
i like game design of new zelda, breath one
and on pc is good game
swift tree
how ancient are we speaking, is there a 3 or alrdy a 4 in front <:Susge:10653871...
It was made after Jim Carrey's Grinch movie and the reason why all new Seus movies are animated
low nebula
it doesnt have dungeons tho, but open world is good
swift tree
it doesnt have dungeons tho, but open world is good
I mean the underground part is kinda one massive dungeon, no?
past ginkgo
I mean the underground part is kinda one massive dungeon, no?
Which one?
I never played BOTW, still got TOTK dusting at home, I need to play it at some point
swift tree
Which one?
I assume CriErr is talking about Tears of the Kingdom, no?
low nebula
I mean the underground part is kinda one massive dungeon, no?
yea but its so bad and boring and shit that if it didnt exist game would be better
low nebula
the joseph anderson made basically whole video braking it down
video itself is cringe but i felt same
swift tree
the budget of game design and mechanic development went to the re-invented the Gmod physgun in 6 different parts instead of them actually designing dungeons to fight stuff in
uncut dirge
ok, watching memo's video i now understand why KR cares so much about inflation
it's because they need to pay blue crystals every month
just to have pet bonuses
low nebula
but open world i really liked, i had one of the best gamer moments in it
there is giant casm which i didnt know how to travel in first zone before i had flying, but it had trees around it
and imagine
just imagine
instead of saying "cut the tree so it falls over it and you walk on it
they had dude way in background cutting tree with axe so ofc - monkey see monkey do
uncut dirge
they gotta roll pet bonuses via an RNG system with blue crystals too
so it makes sense that KR cares a lot more about inflation than we should
low nebula
the budget of game design and mechanic development went to the re-invented the G...
yea well and that paid off cos they made second one with only that engine, so i guess it was the plan from the beginning
uncut dirge
here you can play more or less ok without crystalline aura, but they can't
low nebula
here you can play more or less ok without crystalline aura, but they can't
yea its like 1 raid here
uncut dirge
yea its like 1 raid here
sure, but we also don't "need" it
uncut dirge
i still dont understand why western players worry so much about inflation
low nebula
we dont really
uncut dirge
i can see the rich/top end players worry about it cause they're the ones that gotta pay more
but your average guy aint buying honing mats or the expensive accessories or books
low nebula
yea, but reddit parrot the kr statement
swift tree
up to a point
gusty fulcrum
Hoeflation
swift tree
Reddit schizo af ngl
uncut dirge
And if the gold inflation comes from raid gold
then that means we're generating more engraving books too
low nebula
yea, but you know how it work - shit is expensive there and here, must be same issue
tulip charm
just wait until ags video to see real carnage
when is this coming
is there a timestamp i mean, i know its today
uncut dirge
cause at least like half the relic books
swift tree
when is this coming
tonight/today
uncut dirge
have to be coming from raids right
well, actually, more accounts = more books from chaos gate and field boss too
swift tree
@tulip charm in either 7-10 hours
uncut dirge
so engraving books really shouldn't be affected by this type of inflation
past ginkgo
6-7PM for EUC time
uncut dirge
and i feel like accessories also shouldn't be changing much
past ginkgo
the video
gusty fulcrum
Sum1 that uses dps meter #lost-ark-help
uncut dirge
since every character can relatively quickly get enough accessories that they need
and everything additional to that will just drive down the prices for everyone
since there's more supply
subtle cliff
I c
limber salmon
Cn games is fun as always.
Im waitin on pgrxdmc . Hope got vergil on roll
swift tree
% is way higher because it's % of your entire stats
swift tree
as your gear gets higher in level, the % becomes better in value
uncut dirge
was just checking and saw flat costing more for whatever reason
people typically use this chart
for the values of accessories
subtle cliff
ty
uncut dirge
the 2nd column is how much damage it'll add
subtle cliff
uncut dirge
it's not exact for every class and character, but these are good rough estimates
swift tree
gusty fulcrum
Wp > ap. Sus
jolly obsidian
Btw, anyone knows the price of Keen Blunt books in Euc?
gusty fulcrum
A lotta fuckin money
uncut dirge
high and low roll for 300k
mid-mid is typically cheaper than high-low
uncut dirge
Btw, anyone knows the price of Keen Blunt books in Euc?
170k
lyric fjord
i want these china changes..