They should play one for longer than a month
#lost-ark-discussions
past ginkgo
royal summit
but the entire game oozes fun
and i also believe the game needs to be soooo much more social
the only social place we have is are a couple discord servers
thats it
nothing keeps me ingame
past ginkgo
Any sub MMO I played legit
I could go on a break for months
And come back to my current situation
royal summit
so much potential here aswell- it's already in the game? all this coop farming
all the strongholds
the manors
past ginkgo
And it didn't actually matter
royal summit
the theoretical activities
past ginkgo
I can tell you what happens when I do come back to Lost Ark
royal summit
💳
burnt tree
hell no
past ginkgo
I mean one good thing is, content schedule has slowed down now, so I'm probably not that far behind
burnt tree
Yeah for their audience
surreal gyro
as if we have any decent publishers in the west
wicked blade
as if we have any decent publishers in the west
We do
surreal gyro
who? xD
brisk torrent
in that economy too
past ginkgo
I remember people who came back after quitting Brel the first, they had to go through 8 different raids and tons of progress
brisk torrent
tencent isnt good for american economics
surreal gyro
Gamigo? Gameforge? NCWEST omegalul
past ginkgo
I come back to Brel v2 and Mordum, that's it
brisk torrent
its all expensive for no reason
tulip charm
Shut up, CN version is superior
Doubt, they have their own issues we don’t have here
burnt tree
theres no good publishers in the west, EVERY single publisher had a game they fcked up
tulip charm
I do believe tencent > ags however
surreal gyro
u cant compare them
past ginkgo
Any day
surreal gyro
u really cant
burnt tree
tencent isnt good for a western audience
surreal gyro
they have different contracts Tencent is gigantic compared to AGS
AGS is a small studio
burnt tree
also tencent is a powerhouse like Smilegate is big right now only bc of them
you comparing a giant to a kitten
brisk torrent
tencent is that big tho
royal summit
they have different contracts Tencent is gigantic compared to AGS
this might be true
royal summit
but why would a customer give a fuck
burnt tree
no they arent
royal summit
about why the product is shit?
brisk torrent
digital extremes and riot are hig names i think of
tulip charm
AGS is a small studio
Recent is gigantic yes, but ags is far from a small studio wtf? They published a bunch of stuff like new worlds and a bunch of other games
royal summit
i dont give a fuck if the company is big or small, i want a good product
wicked blade
digital extremes and riot are hig names i think of
Yeah, if DE published Lost Ark
Holy moly
brisk torrent
they would never
wicked blade
Big pp
tulip charm
It’s just most of the crap they touch/publish turns into shit
brisk torrent
yeah its like rapid deterioration
burnt tree
Riot has their own MMO to publish and DE isnt experienced in MMOs
brisk torrent
look at league
surreal gyro
Recent is gigantic yes, but ags is far from a small studio wtf? They published a...
AGS is still a younger company compared to the rest in the west and they havent published that many games, they still are a small studio lmao
brisk torrent
steadily declining sometimes more rapidly for the last 4 years
past ginkgo
Tbh I think Lost Ark still does pretty well compared to New World or Throne & Liberty LMAO
brisk torrent
the only thing keeping it alive is consistently decent patches
wicked blade
Riot has their own MMO to publish and DE isnt experienced in MMOs
Ammmm... Warframe is bigger then Lost Ark
past ginkgo
No comment about these
burnt tree
Ammmm... Warframe is bigger then Lost Ark
who said warframe is doing bad? lmao
Warframe isnt an MMO
its a looter shooter
its smaller in scale
surreal gyro
also this why are comparing warframe to Lost Ark lmao
brisk torrent
bc its the company, not the sponsor. if aponsors had their way every game would be like destiny
literally every game
surreal gyro
name an MMO that isnt going down all these years except WoW
wicked blade
bc its the company, not the sponsor. if aponsors had their way every game would ...
Yeah
burnt tree
Raven ure just pulling random sht out of ur ass to make an arguement but its not working xd
past ginkgo
name an MMO that isnt going down all these years except WoW
OSRS?
surreal gyro
even FFXIV flopped hard
past ginkgo
brisk torrent
idk hoe you think thats healthy for the wedt
wicked blade
even FFXIV flopped hard
In the beginning yes
burnt tree
even FFXIV flopped hard
idk ppl atm having fun on the Moon 
wicked blade
Now FF14 is big af
surreal gyro
Now FF14 is big af
nothing like it was at endwalker
brisk torrent
will it
past ginkgo
Exu donowalling after I gave him an answer
burnt tree
Lost Ark is a brand new IP and they havent done anything with it 
past ginkgo
classic
surreal gyro
i checked steam charts
brisk torrent
ah yes cuz steam is the only metric
wicked blade
Lost Ark is a brand new IP and they havent done anything with it <:sip:105995105...
Honestly? AGS does such a shit job at advertizing
brisk torrent
good idea man
wicked blade
I would literally take any other company over AGS
tulip charm
even FFXIV flopped hard
A bunch of people left lost ark for ff, most of them came back
surreal gyro
i cant tell if OSRS is gaining players/maintining or slowly declining i cant tell u that
burnt tree
Honestly? AGS does such a shit job at advertizing
Thats smilegates fault
tulip charm
I remb this last year
burnt tree
not AGS
wicked blade
AGS is publisher.
burnt tree
AGS has nothing to do with the LOA IP going down the shithole
wicked blade
They handle marketing.
past ginkgo
i cant tell if OSRS is gaining players/maintining or slowly declining i cant tel...
Just check this https://oldschool.runescape.com/
brisk torrent
amazon sucks jusf in general tbf
past ginkgo
It literally has the number xd
brisk torrent
but id prefer that over tencent sponsored slop
wicked blade
You are mistaken @burnt tree , publisher job is to ADVERTIZE THE GAME
And AGS just sucks dicks
brisk torrent
de is literally the only good tencent backed company ive ever heard of, nd i didnt even know it was until recently
surreal gyro
Just check this https://oldschool.runescape.com/
95k ccu?
burnt tree
You are mistaken <@888771554631118849> , publisher job is to ADVERTIZE THE GAME
Ads arent targetted to ppl who already play lost ark tho
wicked blade
de is literally the only good tencent backed company ive ever heard of, nd i did...
GGG
surreal gyro
i have 2 emails , on my second email i get lost ark emails all the time
my main email gets none
tulip charm
but id prefer that over tencent sponsored slop
You mean you don’t wanna get fked over on cn, people have to buy t3 ark passive acc from the ah to cut, then in the same month, they gotta rebuy t4 relic acc again?
That’s a cn lost ark exclusive problem
past ginkgo
I wish more games like OSRS would show their CCU
tulip charm
Like I said, cn have there own issues we don’t have here
surreal gyro
Can we also say that, releases fora SPECIFIC region will always be better?
brisk torrent
thats always been said
surreal gyro
Tencent only releases in China
past ginkgo
But main advantage of OSRS is, it has no region locks
brisk torrent
its ridiculous to think regional economics dong affect regional launches
past ginkgo
You can play your account on NA,EU,UK,AUS worlds whenever you want
surreal gyro
Regional pricing is more effective they can read the market better
in EUNA u have to split regions
u marginalize the playerbase
tulip charm
Tencent only releases in China
You realize tencent bought out grinding gear games years ago when Poe 2 didn’t exist yet right?
surreal gyro
u have to follow rules of every country
wicked blade
You realize tencent bought out grinding gear games years ago when Poe 2 didn’t e...
Obviously not
surreal gyro
You realize tencent bought out grinding gear games years ago when Poe 2 didn’t e...
im talking in the context of publishing a game
royal summit
u have to follow rules of every country
i agree, if they released more loli clases in jp it wouldn't have EOSd so soon
wicked blade
AGS just sucks, deal with it
royal summit
brisk torrent
monetization from tencent is and always has been a nightmare. the ONLY reason de is thriving is bc the monetization is valuable and rare rather than every fucking other week or permanently needed to progress
thats just a fact.
royal summit
honestly i think people just have tencent in good memory because of league being the absolute best f2p mmo
wicked blade
They can't even publish New World or T&L.
Don't defend them "It is SG fault"
They suck
Their own game failed
brisk torrent
honestly i think people just have tencent in good memory because of league being...
yeah 5 years ago
burnt tree
they are literally different teams within AGS 
tulip charm
People thought after they bought out poe1, they were gonna monetize the shit out of the game and replace the devs, turns out they didn’t do either, almost no change at all
burnt tree
what does TL/NW got to do with Lost Ark
wicked blade
they are literally different teams within AGS <:ICANT:1091897440220745848>
Same company
surreal gyro
idk why u hate AGS so much
burnt tree
TL was never going to pop off
wicked blade
Doesn't matter
surreal gyro
look at NCSoft and how maby of their gamesh ave failed
burnt tree
with the brand on it being NCsoft
surreal gyro
all insanely cool games
brisk torrent
i think raven is just a contrarian
he was this aggressive talking ab fucking cpus earlier
tulip charm
I am not saying tecent is perfect, far from it, but I still believe tecent > ags
safe lark
he has chinese flag over his bed
surreal gyro
AGS is developing the Lord of the Rings MMO as well currently
wicked blade
I love Lost Ark, but I absolutely hate AGS
brisk torrent
its rly not that deep for anyine in here
burnt tree
i think raven is just a contrarian
i cant take him seriously since hes a spender so the way CN is built is good for him
brisk torrent
surprised he doesnt rmt
brisk torrent
he loves spending money so much
wicked blade
i cant take him seriously since hes a spender so the way CN is built is good for...
Unironically CN version is more f2p
burnt tree
he said it himself 
wicked blade
Then West
royal summit
yeah 5 years ago
stopped playing after about 10 years of competitive league, 5 years sounds about right- but i dont know any other game that has this many players, allows for casual play, has basically no cheaters and p2w is kinda- i mean getting chars faster? skins? i mean that's 100% fine by me
surreal gyro
idk ive played a lot of KR mmos published in the west and AGS as a publisher is going a better job than NCWest/Gamigo and Gameforge
brisk torrent
unironically ur full of shit
burnt tree
Unironically CN version is more f2p
tulip charm
Unironically CN version is more f2p
Bullshit
swift tree
AGS is developing the Lord of the Rings MMO as well currently
And watch it be meh
brisk torrent
cn is the most monetized region of any fucking game in the history of time
wicked blade
So yes, it is much cheaper
burnt tree
CN is more f2p but they didnt even add the challenge abyss for ppl to grind cards
wicked blade
'legally rmt'
It is quite literally allowed
burnt tree
they wait like what a year?
brisk torrent
still spending money to progress???
wicked blade
past ginkgo
idk ive played a lot of KR mmos published in the west and AGS as a publisher is ...
Nah I would say they are equally bad but we know NCSoft does care zero shit about any player so yeah
Atleast AGS got one advantage there
burnt tree
'legally rmt'
yeah apparently its allowed to rmt but thats why he likes it like i said hes a spender
surreal gyro
nah theyre not equally bad trust me ive played a ton of other KR mmos
surreal gyro
i was playing BnS for 3 years
past ginkgo
I was playing it for 6 years...
surreal gyro
Sword of legends for almost 1 year from Gameforge
brisk torrent
stopped playing after about 10 years of competitive league, 5 years sounds about...
its just skins rly but the skins are literally like. 20, 35, 100, 250 dollars and a gambling system. instead of improvements to the game. de does both but not that severe monetization yet. hopefully never.
wicked blade
so the way CN works just benefits someone like Raven
Ofc, who cares about f2p in p2w game 
burnt tree
I was playing it for 6 years...
same
surreal gyro
ye and NCWest did 0 changes for the west in BnS
at least in Lost ARk AGS has been trying
burnt tree
and i know for a fact CN influencing the development of BnS sent it down the rot much faster
surreal gyro
and NCwest is an actual sub of NCSoft
swift tree
Smilegate being the asshole rn
brisk torrent
right
surreal gyro
but the reality is that if SG is doing a good job so will AGS
if the game is shit cause of SG
swift tree
if it was just AGS, then KR wouldn't also be on fire
surreal gyro
u will hate AGS too
brisk torrent
i dont get why raven is mad at ags and not smilegate but plays on cn and has no real interaction with the way the west works
burnt tree
ye and NCWest did 0 changes for the west in BnS
remember the stream like 3 months b4 BnS launch where they acknowledged western players dont like the gamba and overgrinding as much as Korean players do
brisk torrent
makes no sense
burnt tree
but changed nothing
past ginkgo
The current situation of Lost Ark is all SG's fault of course
surreal gyro
remember the stream like 3 months b4 BnS launch where they acknowledged western ...
i still remember them saying "BNS will be F2P"
past ginkgo
They develop the game
surreal gyro
xD
burnt tree
i still remember them saying "BNS will be F2P"
past ginkgo
Same like NCKR was at fault for BnS
wicked blade
i dont get why raven is mad at ags and not smilegate but plays on cn and has no ...
Because game is aliiiiive on CN.
I can enjoy any state of the game
It is not dead below certain ilvl
surreal gyro
<:ICANT:1091897440220745848>
i also played NEO on the side for 2 months i quit last week horrible
swift tree
convince raven of that
Raven is dense af tho
past ginkgo
I quit after first week
brisk torrent
congrats. ur on a monetized region. oh man. wonder how fun that is for ppl tbat arent made of money somehow.
wicked blade
congrats. ur on a monetized region. oh man. wonder how fun that is for ppl tbat ...
Lost of f2p's in endgame raids
Cards are not gatekept as hard
brisk torrent
your definiton of f2p is not concurrent with how the term was introduced to gamers
surreal gyro
im sorry but we have a lot of F2Ps in the wesst as well
lmao
half of my static is 1700+ and they dont spend a dime in the game
burnt tree
i also played NEO on the side for 2 months i quit last week horrible
people are quitting massively cause of the upcoming June update
swift tree
F2P = Casual = Non-Raiders obviously 
burnt tree
and the state of NEO on other regions
surreal gyro
people are quitting massively cause of the upcoming June update
ofc its shit lmao
burnt tree
meanwhile NCWest is releasing steam exclusive servers now
to milk an ignorant to the game player base
surreal gyro
meanwhile NCWest is releasing steam exclusive servers now
ye lmfao i read that ahahahahaha
brisk torrent
ok so they have 20k hours in the vame then and and never took breaks got it so outliers rather than pattern makers
surreal gyro
insane
wicked blade
congrats. ur on a monetized region. oh man. wonder how fun that is for ppl tbat ...
So is West? Your point?
swift tree
people are quitting massively cause of the upcoming June update
what's the update?
wicked blade
Lost Ark is p2w on any region
burnt tree
what's the update?
i dont remember 
swift tree
Lost Ark is p2w on any region
your mom is pay to win.
brisk torrent
no its pay to go faster
past ginkgo
people are quitting massively cause of the upcoming June update
I mean if I demanded huge DPS check only beatable spending 400$ per purple book to get to the requirement of clearing...
surreal gyro
it doesnt matter if a game is p2w or not
burnt tree
i quit cause i saw what future updates NEO was getting
tulip charm
I just think ags is incompetent with their soft handed approaches, with them perma banning chaos botters, than a week later they all magically get unbanned and the strike completely erased? Some streamers agree also, just overall incompetence, the game is never gonna have 1mil players on launch, but they could have easily maintained 100-150k player base after 3 years
surreal gyro
what matters is how much of a barrier p2w will be
wicked blade
your mom is pay to win.
Bara, do you want to fuck off with those comments?
surreal gyro
if you can clear content as a dedicated F2P
brisk torrent
they are being blue balled by sg why are you all so dense lmao
burnt tree
I just think ags is incompetent with their soft handed approaches, with them per...
Lost Ark was never the kind of game that would maintain 100k+ players on its 3rd year
but we could have maintained a 50-60k playerbase
wicked blade
they are being blue balled by sg why are you all so dense lmao
Maybe AGS should not publish a game if they can't even get basic dev rights?
Maybe they are just stupid af?
brisk torrent
ok so no lost ark for west according to raven
burnt tree
but lost ark is suffering from the same thing as Destiny 2
surreal gyro
Maybe AGS should not publish a game if they can't even get basic dev rights?
Bro who would give dev rights to any western publisher what are u smoking
tulip charm
Lost Ark was never the kind of game that would maintain 100k+ players on its 3rd...
I can see 100k play base after 3 years
burnt tree
"just more of the same"
tulip charm
But it’s ags handling it, so it can’t
subtle cliff
I remember when people were getting hyped over Neo classic
burnt tree
I can see 100k play base after 3 years
nuh uh
the western audience isnt that dedicated to games outside of WoW or FFXIV
surreal gyro
nah lost ark is too niche for a western audience
past ginkgo
I remember when people were getting hyped over Neo classic <:OMEGALUL:8529807894...
I mean the nostalgic story run was nice
brisk torrent
i think i said that earlier
wicked blade
Bro who would give dev rights to any western publisher what are u smoking
Money.
You present expected earnings and predictions with your plan with the game and u request rights in return
past ginkgo
Everything after that, yeah fuck off with NEO
brisk torrent
its rly getting hit with the bungie treatment rn
wicked blade
AGS is just bad publisher
surreal gyro
u are biased cause of Tencent
burnt tree
Korea is a country of its own they can have a loyal playerbase and ppl who will come back no matter what
surreal gyro
and u think that because tencent can get Dev rights everyone shud do that
brisk torrent
shareholders swoop in and tell company to do smthn that clearly makes fans upset but will push for engagement and then retrsct it and half the players are gone by then
burnt tree
Western players just wait for the next big thing that will outshine what they play currently
royal summit
burnt tree
and jump ship
surreal gyro
We stil lget exclusive western stuff in the west and AGS has no rights so its good for me
idk why u so upset
swift tree
tulip charm
nah lost ark is too niche for a western audience
sometimes I think the west only deserves games like Diablo immortal, gachas, black desert and shit games like those. It’s what they deserve
wicked blade
and u think that because tencent can get Dev rights everyone shud do that
Russia did?
surreal gyro
Russia and the west are treated as one idk if u havent noticed yet
brisk torrent
i actually only have a problem w raven bc its not even an argument its just personalized harassment
steady crater
any supp for brel prog g2 eu?
brisk torrent
i think like bara said hes just dense and biased
burnt tree
Russia did?
not to a significant degree
wicked blade
Russia and the west are treated as one idk if u havent noticed yet
Where my leggo skins then
burnt tree
we literally get the same shit as Russia
brisk torrent
which ia fine ig but irrelevant
past ginkgo
Most of the MMO andies in the west still stick with WoW, OSRS and FFXIV after all these years... they won't switch their game, no shot.
surreal gyro
Where my leggo skins then <:Susge:1065387133990355014> <:Susge:10653871339903550...
Russia got their skins on their 5th year anniversary
wicked blade
Where my leggo skins then <:Susge:1065387133990355014> <:Susge:10653871339903550...
@burnt tree
past ginkgo
They're extremely loyal to these games.
tulip charm
any supp for brel prog g2 eu?
You came at a interesting moment to ask for this
surreal gyro
last time i checked we are on year 3 in the west
tulip charm
burnt tree
<@888771554631118849>
we arent on our 5th year yet -ShieldMaiden
burnt tree
but u spend money raven so ure not affected by it
surreal gyro
?
burnt tree
u could get any legendary skin u wanted
subtle cliff
Speaking of dead game
swift tree
Most of the MMO andies in the west still stick with WoW, OSRS and FFXIV after al...
There's people still playing LOTRO, social attachment to an MMO is real
wicked blade
Just spend money ig
brisk torrent
i just cba arguing with raven is worse than a brick wall bc it talks shit for no reason
past ginkgo
Lost Ark won't EOS before it's 5th year
subtle cliff
my ass still logs in on Pso2
brisk torrent
gl guys
subtle cliff
past ginkgo
steady crater
u havent seen a dead game
this game is far from dead
surreal gyro
i know it is
burnt tree
Lost Ark probably has another 5-6 years
surreal gyro
people spamming EOS for years
tulip charm
just need 1 supp
If your jailed in g2, it’s very very hard to break out, good luck, everyone sent their shit alts to troll/jail with express pass, you gotta gatekept better next time
steady crater
If your jailed in g2, it’s very very hard to break out, good luck, everyone sent...
i pointed its prog
wicked blade
I wanna know which is real player number in LoA, without bots
surreal gyro
I wanna know which is real player number in LoA, without bots
i did the math on owouwuw site
subtle cliff
nexon games like vindictus and mabinogi are still going somehow
wicked blade
we have 50k active players
That is ooofff
subtle cliff
with their 200 players that spend 5000 every month
tulip charm
I wanna know which is real player number in LoA, without bots
About 10-12k, you’ve seen this
subtle cliff
past ginkgo
I mean 50k players is not WoW or OSRS levels but who cares
wicked blade
About 10-12k, you’ve seen this
So... Almost half the bots
past ginkgo
That's enough to keep the game going
wicked blade
burnt tree
I mean 50k players is not WoW or OSRS levels but who cares
just waiting for the sequel frfr
surreal gyro
just waiting for the sequel frfr
nah they killed the IP completely with NEO
burnt tree
subtle cliff
Its ok blue protocol will sav-
subtle cliff
tulip charm
I mean 50k players is not WoW or OSRS levels but who cares
Idk why people drag RuneScape player count into this, I thought was 5% real players 95% Venezuela bots
surreal gyro
u guys can trash lost ark all u want, there are just not good MMORPGs
pick your poison
swift tree
I mean 50k players is not WoW or OSRS levels but who cares
OSRS and WoW are also exceptions, not the rule
burnt tree
Its ok blue protocol will sav-
its ok the chinese bought the rights and are re-releasing it
and it looks good ngl
but i probs wont play it
past ginkgo
Idk why people drag RuneScape player count into this, I thought was 5% real play...
Nah, osrs gold nothing worth anymore
wicked blade
u guys can trash lost ark all u want, there are just not good MMORPGs
FF14 is pretty good
surreal gyro
its not
burnt tree
it is
subtle cliff
who remembers
surreal gyro
if u want a play u can log in every day and do progress
its not ur game
u will play for a bit
surreal gyro
and then ull drop it
burnt tree
people just refuse to acknowledge the game isnt for them but call it shit instead
wicked blade
if u want a play u can log in every day and do progress
???
burnt tree
surreal gyro
i played all FFXIV expansions didnt bother ocming back for the new one
past ginkgo
When venezuelans did botfarming on OSRS, they made insane real life money, that times are over since 2022
queen grail
1700*
subtle cliff
I played the new expansion for ff
wicked blade
queen grail
Send money
🦆 you.
surreal gyro
yeah after Endwalker i didnt see a point
burnt tree
i liked the new expansion, i didnt like the direction of the story
surreal gyro
and the game needs an overhaul in general
surreal gyro
they have been doing the same shiit for 10 years
burnt tree
yeah after Endwalker i didnt see a point
yeah a lot of ppl said they wanted to see the finale of the 10 year story
past ginkgo
OSRS and WoW are also exceptions, not the rule
Both of them have extremely loyal playerbases, let me tell you this: Lost Ark probably gets more new players than WoW and OSRS combined BTW, the reason why they have higher playercount is because you barely have people quit
burnt tree
and then theyd probs quit
wicked blade
I literally don't care about ff14 combat
burnt tree
but i still wouldnt call the game shit lmao
wicked blade
It is about world, story, community
queen grail
Why? Not gonna help free to play brother out? <:PepoCry:491900394725965824>
@neon cedar Plz ban liars.
burnt tree
just because the game doesnt suit ur combat standards it means ure not the targetted audience
surreal gyro
It is about world, story, community
this can only keep you playing for so much
royal summit
It is about world, story, community
which sends me to eepy schleepy land
surreal gyro
how long u gonna play a game every month and pay a sub
for the "community"
thats some woke bs
royal summit
long ass time
past ginkgo
WoW and OSRS communities are a cult, they love their game to death, they won't ditch it no matter what
burnt tree
this can only keep you playing for so much
community literally keeps ffxiv running even at its most dry days
also woke lost its meaning i swear to god
tf "woke"
surreal gyro
i couldnt find a word i picked woke
royal summit
i dont get the hype about ff14's story either
past ginkgo
Bro I see the same high level idiots flame every single week about Jagex, yet they still play the game 10+ hours a day
LOL
burnt tree
All Lost Ark has is great combat and story[after South Vern], community among the worse in gaming
tulip charm
community literally keeps ffxiv running even at its most dry days
I just remb last year so many ff players came here to poach lost ark players into their game, most of them went to ff, and most of them came back lol
queen grail
thats some woke bs
Explain in details how thats woke
surreal gyro
All Lost Ark has is great combat and story[after South Vern], community among th...
and raids mommy
burnt tree
Gold River admitting the story started out weak was on purpose was sad since it killed a lot of peoples interest
subtle cliff
Final Ark Fantasy XIV when
surreal gyro
<:weirdChamp:852981772044599326> Explain in details how thats woke
it just feels forced to me everyone being extremely supportive and kind, kinda feels cringe
burnt tree
and raids mommy
raids are part of the combat
past ginkgo
Let's just say you can't really kill a veteran MMO, agreed?
surreal gyro
yes
subtle cliff
fuck all these games tbh
surreal gyro
we can all agree that Lost Ark still has a spot in the MMO genre
burnt tree
atleast ure mature enough to acknowledge the game isnt for u then u got those peepos saying the game is shit cause it wasnt made for them
past ginkgo
Because players are too loyal to leave it. you can make Riot MMO, it doesn't matter
queen grail
it just feels forced to me everyone being extremely supportive and kind, kinda f...
Ok, so the words you're looking for was Cringe & Forced.
Doesn't explain "woke", but ok 
subtle cliff
surreal gyro
it has something it excels at
wicked blade
Proof that FF14 is one of the biggest mmorpg is enough to say that a lot of players do not care that much about combat if game is actually good
And FF14 is
surreal gyro
Ok, so the words you're looking for was Cringe & Forced.
Doesn't explain "woke"...
i admitted earlier it wasnt the right word, so thank u for correcting me
surreal gyro
Proof that FF14 is one of the biggest mmorpg is enough to say that a lot of play...
there are so many reasons why a game can be successful
wicked blade
https://tenor.com/view/warframe-gauss-prime-prime-warframe-speed-gif-12485080997...
Gauss my belowed
tulip charm
we can all agree that Lost Ark still has a spot in the MMO genre
Ofc? But good luck trying to tell people on reddit that
burnt tree
FF14 has ppl who only do life skilling to be rich, ppl who only do raids and such and ppl who just have e-seggs on the NA servers
cause Americans are weird like that
queen grail
Gauss my belowed
Frost Prime = Best prime.
past ginkgo
FFXIV has been out for 10+ years and people are invested, you can't really compare that to Lost Ark
swift tree
FF14 has ppl who only do life skilling to be rich, ppl who only do raids and suc...
@swift lava
past ginkgo
If you look away from the veteran MMOs, Lost Ark is probably one of your best MMO choices right now
surreal gyro
And Can i say something? how many people join games because they are "meta" and "popular" ? Do u think that that many people would be bringing WoW of FXXIV up as being one of the best if they werent backed by the extrmeely loyal communities, and the streamers backing that up?
queen grail
tulip charm
It’s the job of people that haven’t played the game for over a year to lurk on reddit all day everyday and spam dead game on any new player threads, I’ve never seen this kind of people in a game before
burnt tree
you can literally stick to ur own community in FF14, the "weird" parts of it are interacting with their own ppl xd
burnt tree
If you look away from the veteran MMOs, Lost Ark is probably one of your best MM...
true ngl, havent seen an F2P MMO id play over lost ark rn
subtle cliff
you can literally stick to ur own community in FF14, the "weird" parts of it are...
me lining up to go into a erp cat girl cafe
surreal gyro
There arent
burnt tree
me lining up to go into a erp cat girl cafe
u line up? i just enter anyway from the back door
i did get massively blocked tho
surreal gyro
Lost Ark is still the most "f2p" p2w KRMMO
burnt tree
but it was on the NA servers so its w/e
burnt tree
Lost Ark is still the most "f2p" p2w KRMMO
only if u play for a year or longer
tulip charm
And Can i say something? how many people join games because they are "meta" and ...
Wdym? Alot I think, lol your thinking of old school gamers that play game to have fun, it’s 2025 now, gamers play what other people tell them to play based on a steam chart, why you think every game asmongold plays lose all their playerbase
subtle cliff
I remember being a guild in 14 where there was drama of a cat boy cheating on their wife
burnt tree
Wdym? Alot I think, lol your thinking of old school gamers that play game to hav...
Because people cant form opinions of their own so they listen to their idol
if a game is free to play u can freely give it a try and decide for urself
cant stand ppl who rely on asmon or anyone else to tell them to play it or not
subtle cliff
feel like that
tulip charm
cant stand ppl who rely on asmon or anyone else to tell them to play it or not
This feels like 95% if people that play games today, maybe I am just jaded
wicked blade
I remember being a guild in 14 where there was drama of a cat boy cheating on th...
I'm in Lalafell club, my members summon demons in city square at 12am
swift tree
cant stand ppl who rely on asmon or anyone else to tell them to play it or not
Hey guys, Asmongold told me that genocide is okay
subtle cliff
I went on bns, made my character and moved the camera around for 5 seconds and instantly uninstalled
wasnt vibin
burnt tree
Hey guys, Asmongold told me that genocide is okay
well in nihility lies salvation i dont make the rules
royal summit
Because people cant form opinions of their own so they listen to their idol
true that, it also really depends in what stage life you are at- you might like the same game as the same person more or less, depending if you're 14, 24, 34 or 54
swift tree
well in nihility lies salvation i dont make the rules
Nothing Matters 
vs
Nothing Matters
burnt tree
I went on bns, made my character and moved the camera around for 5 seconds and i...
went up to lvl 36 in NEO did the dungeon and deleted it
wicked blade
Hey guys, Asmongold told me that genocide is okay
You sure it wasn't Hasan?
swift tree
wicked blade
wicked blade
Most braindead people to ever exist. I can't even
burnt tree
This feels like 95% if people that play games today, maybe I am just jaded
yeah cause ppl are comfortable with being told how they should feel about things
and its weird
surreal gyro
i mean i understand why people do it
surreal gyro
they want to be part of the "community"
subtle cliff
he aint the same anymore
wicked blade
I lost my younger brother to it
Send him to therapy
Or mental assylm
If u love him
unreal fox
mornin' chat
subtle cliff
factual
unreal fox
burnt tree
Best streamer is Tectone
no hes not
past ginkgo
Now I know why he is shitting so much on Hoyo
subtle cliff
I can go to sleep, wake up, be at work or at a funeral and Ik saintone got me (18hrs live)
past ginkgo
That explains it
subtle cliff
wicked blade
no hes not
burnt tree
burnt tree
https://tenor.com/view/tectone-grass-touch-grass-go-touch-grass-otk-gif-23894376
His dad is sussy
swift tree
"Only I know what's real"
-every person ever
wicked blade
His dad is sussy
burnt tree
its true cause i said it
wicked blade
This is so cursed
subtle cliff
🐐
swift tree
Ew
wicked blade
if its cursed why would u post it
Because Tectone and Pokke drama just keeps giving
burnt tree
https://tenor.com/view/wonyoung-jang-wonyoung-letterboxd-reaction-half-star-gif-13983925751380388168
low nebula
this shit is rigged, why i finished akkan
burnt tree
Tecky being Kuro shill and Pokke being Hoyo shill
official cartethyia gameplay was posted
and its cinema
Skirkk of genshin in the grave
wicked blade
official cartethyia gameplay was posted
You are an hour late #general-chat
swift tree
If I wanted to watch a bearded rat-shit I'd stare at a mirror.
wicked blade
I feel scammed for pulling on zani after seeing cartethya or whatever
SAME
burnt tree
You are an hour late <#212635560596996097>
i actually saw it as soon as it was posted
but it was early
so i just went back to bed
past ginkgo
ME
wicked blade
https://tenor.com/view/excalibur-gif-26991730
I will skip her, honestly she is w/e
Lupa is much better
burnt tree
since idk anything about her
burnt tree
she just looks cool
wicked blade
I do
wicked blade
That makes is so great
subtle cliff
subtle cliff
ill never leave you my queen
wicked blade
https://tenor.com/view/bianca-abystigma-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-bianca-punishin...
Shhhh, Bianca is my main
Don't remind me
swift tree
You heard me, though pretty sure 90% of this discord showers more often and has a cleaner desk (including myself).
burnt tree
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1056363339040706580.gif?size=48&animated=true&...
secsi cyborg nun is great
subtle cliff
fuck was it called
burnt tree
its ok better spent on WuWa than Lost Ark
wicked blade
Nah
burnt tree
its not like we getting the 130 dolla packs
wicked blade
If I go for Cartathelya I will need Ciaconna
And to build Aero rover
So no fucking thank u
I wanna use Changli again
Bard girls is meh
wicked blade
Fuck GTA
tulip charm
this shit is rigged, why i finished akkan
Rotten, echida, behe seems to be always the first 3 cards people finish
wicked blade
Lame game
past ginkgo
Lame game.... aight
Reaching 30 million trailer views in not even 20 minutes xd
I think people are excited for the game it seems
subtle cliff
Aint personally care about gta so +100
wicked blade
IT IS A SPEAR, A SPEARRRR
swift tree
Rotten, echida, behe seems to be always the first 3 cards people finish
Almost like they’re the farmable cards 💀
wicked blade
wait she has a fat tail
Yes, Lupa means female-wolf
swift tree
this shit is rigged, why i finished akkan
Drops from Aegir
burnt tree
Skirk is overhyped trash btw
as is every character in genshin tbh
they are cool in story cutscenes and all that
tulip charm
Best streamer is Tectone
I don’t play any of the games this guy plays, nor do I relate to most of the shit he talks about, but I do respect this part, he somehow weaponized haters hate, and somehow monetized it to the highest level possible, never seen another streamer do that before
wicked blade
I don’t play any of the games this guy plays, nor do I relate to most of the shi...
True
burnt tree
shes just gonna be another quick swamp element like always
past ginkgo
Exactly, waste of fucking time to pull that
low nebula
Drops from Aegir
past ginkgo
I mean that's the point of gacha...
tulip charm
The good looking female banners always sell the best
I remb one exception
past ginkgo
Fair point good.
subtle cliff
past ginkgo
But only because he is gigachad and drops a meteor on your 4head
And somehow still is meta character 5 years later
burnt tree
Something tells me some of ya’ll only play a game for the gacha and titties.
I play WuWa for the story cause they got the best gacha MC, the eye candies[sure why not every gacha has em], and the music and overall visuals
past ginkgo
WuWa really has the best MC
subtle cliff
Yeah
burnt tree
ill reinstall it for the stellar blade collab and delete it afterwards again
story u just have to suffer through a wave of enemies and a boss just to see the cool parts[cutscenes and dialogues]
subtle cliff
thin granite
gameplay is identical regardless of your progression too
subtle cliff
Watching ass jiggle is fun for the first few months
thin granite
subtle cliff
thin granite
shovelware game
burnt tree
no we dont
wicked blade
Yes we do
burnt tree
you do u
wicked blade
So that I can flex S6 units
royal summit
instead of paying 38k i have now succesfully paid 29k twice
wicked blade
PvP in a gacha game... yeah that surely goes well
It can be equalized
With modules and shit
burnt tree
as if anyone would want to fight ur S6 characters with their S0/1
swift tree
PvP in a gacha game... yeah that surely goes well
VS 
FIGHT!
unreal fox
RIP, braden was right... the punika bananas are awful <.<
burnt tree
Im learning Act 3, totally focusing on that raid
wicked blade
RIP, braden was right... the punika bananas are awful <.<
Wait till u find out about Yorn
burnt tree
yorn shrooms are eassier now
unreal fox
8 more to go 
burnt tree
game is dead so nobody to compete against
swift tree
8 more to go <:Sadge:870331134360297532>
You're get into the rhythm of it
queen grail
The mom 
@fresh flint @wintry depot
past ginkgo
Enjoy!
burnt tree
shits so peak
so cinema
so good
but then again u might have way too high standards or something so who knows
subtle cliff
Charlie Cox my goat
burnt tree
it was made frm an Ubisoft dev who was bored working at Ubisoft so he made his own studio
neon cedar
It's amazing
burnt tree
even the french president praised it
past ginkgo
Made his own studio with junior devs and the story writer was a guy doing it as hobby
But that shit is so good holy
Like it makes other AAA games look like a joke
queen grail
meager hill
I don't think you can compare it to elden ring or the likes
queen grail
burnt tree
tulip charm
Made his own studio with junior devs and the story writer was a guy doing it as ...
You’re talking about that new game name 32 or something right? It’s on my playlist
past ginkgo
Gonna be honest... it is definitely a GOTY contender for this year
tulip charm
I will eventually play it
neon cedar
It's more like French persona than souls games. But it can be pretty difficult still
queen grail
@neon cedar @wintry depot @fresh flint
meager hill
it relies a lot on dodging / parrying attacks
you stop being able to face tank attacks and not be one shot pretty quickly
neon cedar
<@202959015641219072> <@212378747293270026> <@196481929057402880>
Hes looking at u saying adopt me 
burnt tree
lmaoo they buffed Act 3 G2 battle item and they still dont use it
lmaooo
yeah its pretty stupid
seeing it once in brel sure
going back to back with it tho
yeah
this is just an "expensive" version
tho
u get wing mount for clearing g2 without using battle item
you also get wings for clearing g2 or 3[?] hard mode 5 times as well
storm bronze
i'll be hard for you
tulip charm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozx8nswXXOQ go upvote and support your local streamer
so he can continue to get streamer rng
devout nymph
dont we get nerfed frontier system coz western players already cry about the dpscheck before setting foot in there
burnt tree
dont we get nerfed frontier system coz western players already cry about the dps...
the raid is also getting nerfed in May
swift tree
It's more like French persona than souls games. But it can be pretty difficult s...
combat inspired by Persona, but story and world inspired by Bioshock/Dishonored etc.
burnt tree
so we will probably get whatever Act 3 nerfs it takes day 1
KR Brel will probably get the frontier nerfs we have
queen grail
@wintry depot @neon cedar @fresh flint they are so cuteeee
past ginkgo
Oh yeah g2 without the battle item, sounds fun not
burnt tree
Oh yeah g2 without the battle item, sounds fun not
they were clearing it without it week 2 3 n shit
week 1 they didnt have it so it doesnt count
they buffed the battle item and ppl still dont use it
past ginkgo
Flame scroll locked behind 8 days of Una is so shit
meager hill
yeah, but the battle item is useless in mordum
burnt tree
u just stop the boss from absorbing a guardian or some shit
meager hill
unlike in brel g1 where you need it to manage the cold meter
burnt tree
yea theres no meter to manage in Act 3 g2
wintry depot
<@212378747293270026> <@202959015641219072> <@196481929057402880> they are so cu...
Awwww
meager hill
nah, iirc it stops you from dying if you have a certain buff / debuff
tulip charm
wait...i didn't know this, i didn't know if you get hit by the pools in phase 1, it powers up the boss, up to 4times
burnt tree
it does have this tho 
meager hill
but it's ultra jank to use
tulip charm
meager hill
it does have this tho <a:Saddies:1144834528419004577>
put the yoho in the bag 
past ginkgo
Gonna be hard enough to do x10 brel runs, yeah I already imagine the gatekeep
wintry depot
Brel was nerfed for us, like 8% or something like that
We didnt have same dps requirements
storm bronze
s'faire sucer c'est pas tromper
burnt tree
That WAS going to happen
buttttttt
Director announced all Act 1-3 raids are getting nerfed in May
Raid is in June
we get it nerfed
swift tree
We didnt have same dps requirements
also had some of the slight tweaks like specific effects being IR'd, Naroks attacks being tweaked to not be so massive.
Act 3 will also come with those, and according to KR, the lightning sparks randomnly stunning people was the hardest part of Act 3 G3
burnt tree
plus they had already done some QoL nerfs in Act 3 to make it more manageable even if it wasnt directly related to power but survival
swift tree
plus they had already done some QoL nerfs in Act 3 to make it more manageable ev...
^Being able to immunity rate the stuns
wintry depot
also had some of the slight tweaks like specific effects being IR'd, Naroks atta...
Yeep
meager hill
Raid is in June
raid comes in may patch
I don't see them doing another patch 2 weeks into the month cycle just for raid nerfs
swift tree
which was killing off a lot of ppl <:KEKDog:1017277642833154128>
the stuns were a 1-2 punch, they stunned so you couldn't reach safe zone -> killed by LAZOR
queen grail
Protective momma @wintry depot @neon cedar
burnt tree
i hate that repair icon showing up
storm bronze
why you stole your neighboors cats
tulip charm
interesting, i forgot normal mode for memory game could have diagonals
haven't done a normal in over a month
burnt tree
swift tree
Expedition 33's Art Director page
Act 3 Gate 2 has a Simon Says mech too
has inside/outside added on top
tulip charm
someone from your vid thought the mech was 145, he went to the outer edge for memory and died lel
burnt tree
royal summit
okay, 4 hours for 9 raids really wasn't too bad today???
queen grail
why you stole your neighboors cats
Visiting family
tulip charm
tanking the lines at the zoomout mech in phase 3 does not give a 1min debuff for healing, i think its more debuff per lines that tagged you, but i remb its only like 10>30seconds
maybe frontier nerfed it, but i don't remb ever being as long as 1min
tulip charm
yea i remb getting tagged by the scythe on a failed jg/ bugged jg, is way longer
queen grail
Amigad they are so cute, one woke up 
swift tree
queen grail
@wicked blade Wtf 
wicked blade
<@1255305730559447102> Wtf <:mad:1001018618940768296>
What happened?
neon cedar
Amigad they are so cute, one woke up <:Looking:1222262916665839616>
Theyre all yours right?
queen grail
Rude emote reaction from you
storm bronze
@lunar hedge
lunar hedge
storm bronze
wicked blade
Rude emote reaction from you
You mean wrong emote from me
queen grail
Theyre all yours right?
They are not 
but families, they have a bunch of other animals too, just got like 20 lamb's too
queen grail
You mean wrong emote from me
It better be
storm bronze
where the reindeers
undone summitBOT
@wicked blade gave @queen grail +1 reputation.
wicked blade
swift tree
where the reindeers
in the clouds
wicked blade
Is it?
storm bronze
in the clouds
git push
swift tree
Some countries, yeh
wicked blade
Mother's Day is part of a three-day celebration of family in December, including Father's Day and Children's Day.
Yeah it is December for me
So ez
storm bronze
Europe best country no 🧢
wicked blade
Europe best country no 🧢
Ofc
neon cedar
They are not <:Hmmmge:765362110384439316> but families, they have a bunch of oth...
Show lambs too
wicked blade
If u mean continent
tulip charm
wicked blade
We are not Americans to call Europe a country
storm bronze
no country 
queen grail
Show lambs too
I'll send some later
neon cedar
wicked blade
Looool
storm bronze
i'm vegan tho
tulip charm
i thought he was gonna say, if his the new director, he would buff destroyers
storm bronze
poe dead what you are gonna do lil bro
wicked blade
storm bronze
tranquil shore
o7
tulip charm
lol 15:13, his friend tried to rmt, and he got scammed and had to go to the police station
queen grail
send me some lamb chops
One of the lamb's died last time, but I don't think you can eat that one
tulip charm
One of the lamb's died last time, but I don't think you can eat that one
shred the lamb and make hotpot
swift tree
shred the lamb and make hotpot
dead too long probly
wicked blade
lol 15:13, his friend tried to rmt, and he got scammed and had to go to the poli...
Who lol
You guys play with sound?
broken lava
he's playing expedition
wicked blade
I know
tulip charm
Who lol
benji's friend
he actually got his money back, the gold seller rice eater's parents even came to the police station to apologize hoping they don't file charges
what a different world
swift tree
he actually got his money back, the gold seller rice eater's parents even came t...
they're all probably within Korea, makes tracing scammers much easier
tulip charm
they're all probably within Korea, makes tracing scammers much easier
this sounds odd since i don't rmt, but if i was playing the game from korea i prob would rmt
why the fk would you do this shit on NA, you might get scammed, the people buying pilots could steal your shit/gems, could even get blackmailed, they could send dms, prob won't get banned since ags is incompetent
swift tree
you can also lose your Steam account at the same time
which means personal info, and whatever account that's linked
tulip charm
you can also lose your Steam account at the same time
in kr prob ye, here, doubt
they prob just magically revert your steam account in a week with no reason
swift tree
in kr prob ye, here, doubt
Korea doesn't use stream
tulip charm
Korea doesn't use stream
oh ye, i forget, stand along client
wicked blade
what a different world
It is the same story in CN
You face jail time by default if u do that
abstract shuttle
what the
wicked blade
No, not really
They either have bot to pick it up
Or they have second instance of the game opened at the same time
swift tree
@fresh flint make it 9
swift tree
Get blocked fuck u
earnest ivy
Hi guys 21 may only rimeria release no raid or anything ?
swift tree
Hi guys 21 may only rimeria release no raid or anything ?
cubes, guardian + chaos
una tasks
horizontal
Raid prologue too, if that's your thing
earnest ivy
ilvl for new guardian and chaos ?
swift tree
1700
wicked blade
@fresh flint
burnt tree
Hi guys 21 may only rimeria release no raid or anything ?
Raid releases 2 weeks later so June 4th
earnest ivy
ty o/
burnt tree
thorn basin
i wanna kms whenever i get grabbed by skorpion grab
don't get grabbed 
wicked blade
i wanna kms whenever i get grabbed by skorpion grab
neon cedar
Why the fuck do I have 8 notifications here
@fresh flint Can I be #10?
worldly hawk
burnt tree
past ginkgo
Holy I love this C&D calling card
swift tree
https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160
Just resist the urges
