Well.. There's no more players
#lost-ark-discussions
turbid oriole
meager hill
I will give it to you, that the order in which you approach these systems is kinda fucked because of player perception heavily impacting what is and isn't worth it. However they still have completed systems that a lot of people won't even think to actively engage with for a long time
turbid oriole
Those single class Andy's are generally full support rosters
dawn yacht
wtf
meager hill
it's not like a new tier or ancient books are around the corner to make it a "waste"
worldly hawk
Those single class Andy's are generally full support rosters
and supports are basically unaffected
so what's all the fuss about
i really don't get it
worldly hawk
They gonna quit
good riddance
dull obsidian
<a:KEKAH:817523308228640778> wtf
It's peak..
craggy parrot
i mean i like playing with supps
meager hill
the only real negative impact of the new gems is gatekeeping due do player perception that shinier gem better
craggy parrot
so i would prefer if they didnt quit
turbid oriole
good riddance
In turn lobby simulator again then more people quit
meager hill
the damage difference is negligent at best
dawn yacht
It's peak..
sure is
worldly hawk
In turn lobby simulator again then more people quit
oh please people are so addicted, all the andies that say the would quit now will be back in a week
turbid oriole
oh please people are so addicted, all the andies that say the would quit now wil...
Raven doesn't count
worldly hawk
it's not just raven
meager hill
no no, have supports quit
turbid oriole
He's speeeshul
dull obsidian
@stark sky flame his damage
meager hill
then after months of severe support shortage, maybe they'll remove the role for good
surreal gyro
supp shortage is finer after ah changes
slender sky
if we dont stop pretending soon that the change is good ill hyper awaken in chat
stark sky
why would I need to do that
stark sky
He flamed his own dmg by posting it in the first place
dull obsidian
O shit
dull obsidian
thorny olive
the only real negative impact of the new gems is gatekeeping due do player perce...
Yeah, which leads to them needing gems which they could have farm but sold or combined instead, so they'd have to buy gems but they probably can't afford it so they might be stuck in a catch 22 where they need bound gems to do raids and earn gold so they can buy gems, but they can't because they get gatekept 
meager hill
not saying the change is good, but it's heavily exaggerated as the eos bringer
meager hill
Yeah, which leads to them needing gems which they could have farm but sold or co...
welcome to the new player experience
thorny olive
welcome to the new player experience
😭
worldly hawk
He flamed his own dmg by posting it in the first place
i would appriciante it if you would stop badmouthing me otherwise i'm taking it to the mods, this will be the only warning you will get on the matter
thorny olive
ok i finished my raid
Oh no
surreal gyro
the new change is actually better than roster bound gems, people who think that roster bound gems would solve anything are completely shortsighted
and miss the point
thorny olive
Aaaaa
stark sky
meager hill
stark sky
I'll take it to mods too np
surreal gyro
we are currently facing a loud minority crisis
thorny olive
the new change is actually better than roster bound gems, people who think that ...
@dull obsidian need u to squish this guy
surreal gyro
made worse by streamers who in their majority play similar classes
meager hill
what would be the issue with roster bound gems? 
turbid oriole
we are currently facing a loud minority crisis
Make arkasia great again
surreal gyro
The same things you complain about now will be 3x worse with roster bound gems
turbid oriole
Send the demons back to petrania
craggy parrot
what do you think our complaints are
turbid oriole
I stand with thighrain
dull obsidian
I mean roster gems with some additional changes that won't completely fuck everything is the ideal scenario
dull obsidian
Add lvl 11 gems real
uncut dirge
Nah this change is bad long-term
dull obsidian
People cry regardless lol
uncut dirge
It's going to cause people to be upset with SG
turbid oriole
I mean roster gems with some additional changes that won't completely fuck every...
Hear this out.. how about make no changes
dull obsidian
It's about which option people cry less
surreal gyro
if they added roster bound gems without changing anything it would solve literally nothing because gatkeeping , raid requirements, new player entry barriers would also sky rocket
uncut dirge
Because of "bad qol"
dull obsidian
if they added roster bound gems without changing anything it would solve literal...
No cap
surreal gyro
The change they added now is a middle ground to both
uncut dirge
With the new system you can share gems between two characters based on what we know so far
dull obsidian
People wouldn't go above a 9 for a long time
uncut dirge
It will just be very annoying to do
craggy parrot
its worse
dull obsidian
Unless they need some specific 10s
uncut dirge
But it's efficient so people are gonna do it
But it's annoying so they'll be pissed off about it
surreal gyro
It's not worse its jsut people who are not getting the beenfits bound roster people get are jsut butthurt over it
craggy parrot
they fixed it by pointing the finger at people who nobody cared about in the first place
surreal gyro
if u have been sharing gems on your acc you have been gaining an advantage for a lot of time now
now that this advantage is taken
people dont like it
change came too late? yes
dull obsidian
I mean it was kinda expected that people would same class roster?
surreal gyro
is it tho?
dull obsidian
The issues in Korea is what form the west
craggy parrot
ask why people feel the need to trade gems in the first place
dull obsidian
Yes
dull obsidian
If it came at the start of t4
uncut dirge
If the changes go through we will see a lot of level 5 gem Andys in guardian raids
surreal gyro
If it came at the start of t4
i agree its sudden, but any change would be sudden currently
uncut dirge
Because their real gems are bound to some other character for the week
surreal gyro
if the changes happen nothing will change for roster-shared gems
dull obsidian
They had the spare gold to input into books, honing, higher tier gems as a total because they are playing 1 char over 3-6
surreal gyro
u will still keep sharing them
uncut dirge
if the changes happen nothing will change for roster-shared gems
Yeah and if you don't want to use ark passive you don't have to
dull obsidian
This game was built for people to want to try new classes
uncut dirge
You can just keep using the old system
slender sky
oh boy not the reddit andy with his room temperature iq takes again 
dull obsidian
Now that they've spent gold elsewhere
thorny olive
oh boy not the reddit andy with his room temperature iq takes again <:KEKMask:86...
We denting again
thorny olive
meager hill
You can just keep using the old system
worldly hawk
no u guys are just over reacting
this ^
worldly hawk
and u are very selfish
this x2 ^
dull obsidian
I still think they revert the bound gem change and keep everything else with a nerf to the AP increase
surreal gyro
multiple calss rosters have never complained about others using same calss rosters we took the L everytime your 1660 lvl 8 full gem alt applied to a lobby and got prioritized
dull obsidian
Roster gems can't just drop into the game
surreal gyro
what they will do im pretty sure
is they will nerf the AP scaling a bit
but the change SG thought i dont think is that bad
thorny olive
and u are very selfish
WHAT
slender sky
and u are very selfish
i benefit from the system, its still a shit system.
uncut dirge
@dull obsidian the thing is that if they keep the system as is it will lead to people sharing gems between their chars
surreal gyro
if roster gems came out i would also benefit from it lmao
but i can see it solves nothing
dull obsidian
I get both sides of the argument but in the end it's literally just SGs fault for such deep gold sinks
surreal gyro
it makes it worse
uncut dirge
And any cooldown on it is going to piss people off "because it's bad qol"
uncut dirge
My point is beyond the current sides
dull obsidian
If I get roster gems I'm full 10s unironically if I spend all my gold
thorny olive
"it's selfish to not want a certain group of people to lose out on extra power increase"
What the fuck is this
wicked blade
And any cooldown on it is going to piss people off "because it's bad qol"
If it was 1 day cooldown, that would be fine.
But 7 days and u can bypass it with gold?
surreal gyro
what SG has been doing wrong all this time is applying fixes after the damage has been done to an extended degree
wicked blade
That is just scummy af
uncut dirge
If it was 1 day cooldown, that would be fine.
But 7 days and u can bypass it wit...
Even at 7 days people will share gems for raids
surreal gyro
if their fixes came sooner none of this would happen
uncut dirge
But it's going to be an annoying process
dull obsidian
Well ye that's a lot of the fight lmao
uncut dirge
But it's efficient, so people will do it
thorny olive
Fix is to ban Exuberance
wicked blade
But it's going to be an annoying process
This is just bad QoL and should not be defended
dull obsidian
Why now of all times
uncut dirge
And this will have side effects that piss people off
rocky plume
delete Jaehakjeon 
wicked blade
Anyone defending this need to rethink life decisions
surreal gyro
Fix is to take a deep breath and enjoy the game
u act as if u cant share your gems anymore
thorny olive
Fix is to take a deep breath and enjoy the game
wicked blade
Fix is to take a deep breath and enjoy the game
rocky plume
you can share it but you lose 5% dps
dull obsidian
I think it's more like the fact the gems are different and there is fomo to be farmed
uncut dirge
The fact that bound 8s are basically unbound 9s will feel pretty bad to not bind them
thorny olive
u act as if u cant share your gems anymore
I mean I'm not affected, I just think it's dumb to target a group of people like this, might aswell be racism
craggy parrot
u get gatekept for less
surreal gyro
put legendary outfits on your alts with the milions of gold uve saved up all this time and you will narrow this even more
^^
uncut dirge
5% AP scaling on a system that gives you 10% AP is basically 5% damage
surreal gyro
no its not what
craggy parrot
put legendary outfits on your alts with the milions of gold uve saved up all thi...
what millions of gold
slender sky
u act as if u cant share your gems anymore
u act as if its forbidden to simply change gems to be a good system .
craggy parrot
do you think people with unique classes are running around with full 7s/8s
surreal gyro
but the change you guys act is not a better system
dull obsidian
5.5% ap scaling was like 4.5% dmg or something
craggy parrot
no they have event gems
stark sky
5.5% AP (the amount you get from full 9) is 5% dmg
rocky plume
10s is 6,6%
uncut dirge
no its not what
115/110 = basically 5%
dull obsidian
Gg
stark sky
It's like 4.9something
stark sky
Full 8s is 4% dmg
dull obsidian
Full 8 is 3.125
stark sky
Don't remember anything lower
high fog
7 bind is 3.125 yea
solid jetty
wont roster gems fix the issue?
stark sky
Yes but doesn't make them money
surreal gyro
no they wont
stark sky
surreal gyro
they wont fix anything
dull obsidian
wont roster gems fix the issue?
Market would change a lot and they lose money lmao
uncut dirge
Surely now that DI SH needs full gems they will be buffed to be able to compete for top DPS spots, right?
solid jetty
roster gems will benefit both 6x andies and ppl with 6 different classes cus everyone would just make 10s and be happy?
stark sky
Yes
high fog
Roster bind prob does benefit the most people, but it also fucks over 6 dupe rosters way way harder than any other change
dull obsidian
They lose money bro
surreal gyro
who is going to make 10s?
dull obsidian
Also everyone will go 8/9
stark sky
Except top 1% for whales(rmters) and they don't make money
dull obsidian
Not many people have the gold to go 10
high fog
With full roster I’m at 8 9s and 3 10s iirc
stark sky
you think they actually give a fuck about your opinion
surreal gyro
if everyone goes 10 the gems will skyrocket due to demand, and a lot of OTP rosters are not fusing their gems they have full 8s and they sell everything else
stark sky
Nah
surreal gyro
so if roster bound gems happen youre still fked in the butt 🙂
dull obsidian
With full roster and spending my gold I will be full 10s
surreal gyro
not to mention they will design raids with higher gem requirements
and gatekeeping will also follow
so u are solving nothing
dull obsidian
If roster gems came to fruition at the current price they're at
high fog
There’s downsides to whatever they do tbf
dull obsidian
I haven't bussed properly in 3 weeks grrr
high fog
I don’t think they can really do anything to solve it at this point
surreal gyro
exactly
dull obsidian
I'm down to 17h per week
surreal gyro
no matter what they do is bad
high fog
Just gotta see who they decide to piss off
surreal gyro
its too late for any change
dull obsidian
I'm chilling ATM
surreal gyro
their change now just wants to target people who did not use OTP rosters
and lets be real here, people with OTP rosters were gainign an advantage
thats all
and its the truth.
uncut dirge
I agree
surreal gyro
call it i only like 1 class, ilike being el cheapo, i like being efficient, its still a fact that u gained an advantage
uncut dirge
We gotta get rid of advantages
dull obsidian
Real
high fog
Like if someone has 2 copies of a class
uncut dirge
This is why we need to make support relic engravings mandatory and more rare
high fog
It’s so cooked for them
stark sky
bros acting like he got held up at gunpoint to make different classes
dull obsidian
Why does gunlancer get to buy master brawler, super charge, SS and barricade
uncut dirge
So that supports have to spend as many millions as dps
solid jetty
i mad i spend money for powerpass to make 6x wildsouls 
high fog
i mad i spend money for powerpass to make 6x wildsouls <:KEKW:834726120606924850...
this is solvable with more money tho so its ok
surreal gyro
Class engravings are priced based on calss demand
thorny olive
and lets be real here, people with OTP rosters were gainign an advantage
And who the fuck cares other than you
surreal gyro
if everyone was playing GL Master brawler would be as expensive as hitmaster
dull obsidian
I'm memeing but ye
surreal gyro
im just saying that its not the same comparison
stark sky
2
dull obsidian
?
dull obsidian
Destroyer gl arty are barricade classes
meager hill
shame they haven't deleted zerker yet
dull obsidian
Yes?
stark sky
Dated
meager hill
evo is also barricade
ebon snow
True I play 2 aeros and I've no idea how to gem them then
dull obsidian
Oh shit
stark sky
evo
dull obsidian
No one plays that
stark sky
meager hill
I do 😭
dull obsidian
I haven't seen an Evo scouter in months LNAO
uncut dirge
Destroyer gl arty are barricade classes
Rip barricade arcana
stark sky
The poor soul in the crossfire of this shit
high fog
I don’t think arti uses it anymore no?
stark sky
evo and dish
dull obsidian
I don’t think arti uses it anymore no?
True ceiling build no
Because you run turrets
high fog
Isn’t it gr cd adr kbw aoa or hitmaster
dull obsidian
But like 2% was doing that
high fog
For arty these days
uncut dirge
I saw an AT scouter the other day
thorny olive
call it i only like 1 class, ilike being el cheapo, i like being efficient, its...
Well this change doesn't really affect supports so they can still do it, but no one cares about that, all just DPS yap yap as if it's a competitive game
dull obsidian
Hit master is less damage
uncut dirge
He did like 500m DPS on behe G1 at 1690
dull obsidian
But more generally accepted because you can lose shield outside of turret
stark sky
people acting like 0.7% isn't a lot of damage for supports to be giving out
thorny olive
The bonus doesn't even work on sups btw
stark sky
solid jetty
Well this change doesn't really affect supports so they can still do it, but no ...
my friend wanetd to buy a lv10 surge gem for hes dbs but now he wants to quit 
high fog
Every time someone was like we should make cards and engravings class bound too
I’m just like
thorny olive
So no reason for sups to bind gems
high fog
No diff I don’t have any anyways
stark sky
0.7% is what people spend 1.3m on right now
stark sky
for 5 grudge books
high fog
It’s just not much
stark sky
thorny olive
It’s basic attack power
It said bonus atk power
stark sky
And you give that to 3 characters
high fog
It’s the same stat as gems give right now
uncut dirge
We should make gold char bound
high fog
You can see in kr image
meager hill
nah fuck character bound gold, we need character bound collectibles
stark sky
character bound cards
meager hill
you need to get bloodclaw parts on all characters
stark sky
los 30 for each of your main 6
high fog
nah fuck character bound gold, we need character bound collectibles
I don’t even have ignea token skillpoints
dull obsidian
Character bound runes!!
high fog
Too poor for it to matter 👌
meager hill
I'd commit sudoku if I had to farm runes on all chars
high fog
Dodging all the retaliation nerfs
stark sky
character bound battle items
dull obsidian
Character bound skill pots
stark sky
We've had it good for too long
dull obsidian
We had that already
thorny olive
Okay, well, even so, thats like 0.4% so hey, still doesnt do much, point still stands, everyone cry about OTP rosters but only when it comes to DPS, but us sups? Oh you don't care, we can be cheap, what is this dentge
dull obsidian
xddd
turbid oriole
people acting like 0.7% isn't a lot of damage for supports to be giving out
Does meter still have rdps option
uncut dirge
Yo
stark sky
I don't think so
uncut dirge
Character bound pets
high fog
Okay, well, even so, thats like 0.4% so hey, still doesnt do much, point still s...
My sup has the same investment as my dpsers 
meager hill
Okay, well, even so, thats like 0.4% so hey, still doesnt do much, point still s...
because all supp roster benefits them 
turbid oriole
turbid oriole
That would show these ppl value of support
proud quartz
Character bound pets
character bound engravings lol
thorny olive
My sup has the same investment as my dpsers <:deadge:1046748734807093330>
It's okay support privilege, we can continue sharing gems across 6 chars and be cheap if we want, no one argues until it's a 6xdb roster xD
solid jetty
i think it will end up like the 120 quality change they wanetd to give us
uncut dirge
Imagine if bots got better
high fog
It's okay support privilege, we can continue sharing gems across 6 chars and be ...
No need to share gems
If the gems are doodoo anyways
uncut dirge
And just ran support rosters and joined raids
meager hill
imagine having 10 7s
high fog
Don’t mind the 6 in the corner nobody has said anything about it yet
I don’t intend on fixing
uncut dirge
You know, a lot of characters basically need 1-3 gems and most others are crap
So you get yourself 10 bound 7 gems and one unbound 10 that you share
craggy parrot
most of my classes dmg comes from t skill i dont even need the high level damage gems
high fog
Most of my classes don’t do damage
Cuz I play 2 bottom 10 dpses
So it don’t matter if I have gems or not
bleak zinc
🫡
dull obsidian
Post nerf stomp..
Hitting 2.2b at 1680 too hard now
I used to AVG like 1.8-2.2 per stomp no atro
Now I see as low as 1.6
high fog
Real talk they need to like
worldly hawk
https://i.imgur.com/XAjoxb0.png
craggy parrot
make bomba great again
dull obsidian
I mean
high fog
Why does my t skill barely do 1.5b damage
dull obsidian
According to stats.
high fog
And it’s on an 80s cooldown
craggy parrot
80s? jeez
low nebula
dull obsidian
They wont be buffing us anytime soon
high fog
Like they gave us a 2% generic damage buff
craggy parrot
dont need buff just shift the numbers
surreal gyro
summoner is strong already tho
high fog
It is if ur like 1730
surreal gyro
and u will be happy about the dash when Act3 comes out
low nebula
Like they gave us a 2% generic damage buff
i find that shit weird, cos they would obv balance bosess around people having it
high fog
Ms is pretty uhh
dull obsidian
Unfixable for SG
craggy parrot
did they get that movement skill already
high fog
I think it’s good only if you have giga cd gems
high fog
Yes but you don’t use it
craggy parrot
hasnt that always been the case
worn current
Better than igniter sorc
high fog
Idk about that one
dull obsidian
Igniter sorc is back into S tier with total damage
surreal gyro
all mages are fine currently
dull obsidian
Was a fatty buff
high fog
Ms is like the worst “burst” class
dull obsidian
Only shit thing about sorc
high fog
all mages are fine currently
Emperor is pretty down in the shitter rn
dull obsidian
Is the slow generation speed compared to other burst classes
high fog
It still feels fine to play but the damage is def on the underwhelming side
dull obsidian
And long burst cycle too
safe lark
buff ignite buff summ
dull obsidian
If sorc had it's 2dd dmg spread between it's 3 ignite skills instead
surreal gyro
depends on the fight
high fog
The Phoenix change makes it almost always better
surreal gyro
Akkir is still better on full hits
dull obsidian
And they nerfed total dmg per burst by a bit but buffed gem speed
high fog
Since it’s 1.4 aftershocks now to match
dull obsidian
It would be omega S tier
Even nowadays
FMH gen seems slow because of Burger King and ferality
When fmh was pretty fast back then
vague stirrup
bro restrain from projecting 
high fog
Like either you make their cycle slow enough where they feel dogshit to play
Or it’s fast enough they are just better uptime classes
Than the like actual uptime classes
dull obsidian
Idk
surreal gyro
Act 3 will change your mind
dull obsidian
I play blade anyway
vague stirrup
game dropping act 3 so they dont have to fix lunar
surreal gyro
looks very fun cant wait to do it
dull obsidian
What is a back attack
dull obsidian
You think it's better?
vague stirrup
ill switch to surge for Act3
surreal gyro
not really but i hate RE
dull obsidian
9% buff was pretty enticing
I wanted to give it a shot in behemoth
Just to see.number
I have a surge 10 1715
surreal gyro
damnn
dull obsidian
My highest G1 behemoth is currently 400m bus
My G2 finish wouldve been 310m
But Mug died on me and I had to solo the entire fight post basement with a sup
I was literally 2s from dying to zone and wiping
Everytime he moved I would be forced back into the zone and I would have to surge back in
Literally used all 7 pots like this in the last minute
surreal gyro
brel made me hate RE i liked it in G1, but G2 nono
mana issues, losing meter gain from her teleporting all the time
zzz
high fog
re is so busted in g2 tho X.x
high fog
you can just perma on the boss with all of the moving damage and push immunities
dull obsidian
surreal gyro
XDDD
dull obsidian
You have to learn her tells
surreal gyro
i play blade since day1
i shud have rerolled a long time ago
im just not good with it
dull obsidian
Like the double push back with the circle of scythes
stark sky
uh oh
dull obsidian
Gg
stark sky
high fog
db never getting good gearing
dull obsidian
Idk
dull obsidian
I think db is really strong in brel G2 if you are patient
I play this shit on 250 ping
dull obsidian
I learned 1 thing
If you have synergy on the boss and you know a push pattern is coming
Don't use turning slash
Your syn can last 2 rota anyway
2.5
high fog
if the boss is targetting you with ezreal and you have surge up, blink toward the sorc?
dull obsidian
Real
The one thing that annoys me on G1
Is when people tank the snowball
People don't know he has an after attack if it hits
dull obsidian
I tend to play with front attackers
dull obsidian
You've never seen the boss flail like a maniac after the snowball hits?
stark sky
No
stark sky
My only front attackers are asura
And they are super close
so they don't get hit anyway
stark sky
I think I saw Doranis activate it once
I haven't seen it since
Never in my own raids
dull obsidian
I see it every now and again
Also yeh I have a gl kitten in 2 of my raids
Just not my main run...
I did 152m on my alt blade in brel
stark sky
👎
dull obsidian
I didn't
stark sky
Bad to atro in p1
dull obsidian
And I threw 2
stark sky
So you only atro p2 and 3
thorny olive
I don't even atro most of my time because I get no good timing
stark sky
I can't control when I do it
dull obsidian
Zeus is an insane dps pattern
dull obsidian
xddd
dull obsidian
I mean
If your support is willing
You can dps on the meteor pattern
Or the middle blackhole
thorny olive
Support buffed 
stark sky
No it's not that
P1 you do less dmg if you're on lightning set
It's worse to atro there
dull obsidian
There's a safe spot in the pattern that gives you the meteor
Oh I actually didn't know that wtf
stark sky
She's only weak to lightning p2-4
wintry depot
yeah x335
thorny olive
P1 you do less dmg if you're on lightning set
Is it because she shits all over the floor instead of puking
wintry depot
no
stark sky
No she's just not weak to lightning in p1
thorny olive
She diff in p1
wintry depot
stark sky
Yea
dull obsidian
WTF NAROK IS ANCIENT
wintry depot
yes
thorny olive
Guh
dull obsidian
Time to set up my pet for 0.5 dmg
stark sky
Yes
dull obsidian
GRAHHH
wintry depot
you can
thorny olive
It's a shame you can't do it per gate
And thats why I don't bother with pet preset
wintry depot
just buy 10 pet presets
stark sky
no I mean full automatic
thorny olive
Dumdum
stark sky
I always forget so I just defaulted it to the more important gate
So ancient for aegir and demon for brel
dull obsidian
Ngl I thought
thorny olive
Eh I just have it on demon all time
thorny olive
Narok was a demon
Says next to his name 
dull obsidian
You think I look there?
wintry depot
stark sky
It was kind of pointless though I
wintry depot
btw
stark sky
We have the strongest fi wd in the game in our group
thorny olive
You think I look there?
Ishy tiny
stark sky
And a bunch of other whales
dull obsidian
Thaemine isn't weak to light anymore saddies
thorny olive
Thaemine is weak to my wildsoul
thorny olive
I'm actually in some of the top parses for Fi wd
stark sky
Yea
dull obsidian
Pants almost broke 300m this reset I think
stark sky
The glaive is so misrepresented though
thorny olive
Pants
dull obsidian
He got like 296 or something with 70% CR Blunt thorn
stark sky
the top guy has an Esther 9
But half the cpm as other strong glaives I know
His skills just hit for 2x harder avg cast
LMAO
dull obsidian
I think if pants had books
He would do like 325m
With Rei support
...
Rei is too juiced
I want a run with Rei too..
I think I'd Rei was my supp in my highest blade parse
My dps would jump 30m
I was only 5.6 surge in that run too
If I was 5.9
I would probably have like a 280m parse
dawn yacht
thorny olive
I would probably have like a 280m parse
With a 1680 lvl 7 gems
thorny olive
WTF why
still lintel
thorny olive
What did Ishy say
still lintel
the gamer word
craggy parrot
n or r?
thorny olive
Wait Ishy got banned?
thorny olive
And mocha is muted, idk what happened
dawn yacht
He will be missed
just 7d ban chill
dawn yacht
And mocha is muted, idk what happened
i would say what happened but paper is lurking 
wintry depot
better to not talk about it please
thorny olive
better to not talk about it please
wintry depot
thorny olive
yeah yeah i know papergpt waiting for it
All imma say is, I figure it's the guy who try to trigger me and countless people all the time
Now I leave it
thorny olive
thorny olive
safe lark
@worldly hawk aegir?
thorny olive
thorny olive
Nono
thorny olive
don't continue
wintry depot
https://tenor.com/view/poke-the-bear-angry-gif-26844893
thorny olive
https://tenor.com/view/poke-the-bear-angry-gif-26844893
dawn yacht
don't continue
astral dirge
glacial marsh
storm bronze
where gems
turbid oriole
“Papergpt” that’s either mizu or izunia
probably related to the habsburgs
fresh flint
probably related to the habsburgs
Wut
storm bronze
low nebula
making fish price drop
vagrant cradle
wintry depot
HEEEYYYYYYYY
wintry depot
yes dad
safe lark
thorny olive
Chat killed 
wintry depot
good, im doing guardians
thorny olive
good, im doing guardians
Nyo
wintry depot
yes
safe lark
i killed it
wintry depot
i told people to stfu because i was doing guardians
mystic basin
so like
could i get someone to send me ancient accs that are useable
not rolled or anything
safe lark
if u have 2much pheons
safe lark
wicked blade
could i get someone to send me ancient accs that are useable
Server?
safe lark
Texas
wintry depot
wintry depot
WE SEE YOU
wintry depot
safe lark
didnt know boosteroid exists
Aegir hard?
burnt tree
thats fine, just raiding sucks
turbid oriole
thorny olive
didnt know boosteroid exists
It's what botters use
left maple
burnt tree
Memo inc 
left maple
GET THIS
burnt tree
called it
swift magnet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCDZcfQtml4
thorny olive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCDZcfQtml4
Well, about 90% of people I talked to here agrees the change is bad and/or dumb, the rest only come with dented takes or unrealistic expectations
burnt tree
the only realistic take i have is that its just another shitty decision on top of another
they lost their Wei with Tier 4/Season 3
but my SE is still pretty so all good
swift magnet
too much stress if it were me. i would not do that and even not touch the new system
thorny olive
Just don't include the atk power trash that bullies people, let them play how they like
swift magnet
Just don't include the atk power trash that bullies people, let them play how th...
yus
mystic basin
Damn <@668496847731425288> was chaos botting
mystic basin
i was watching fire force during that time
wicked blade
i was watching fire force during that time
So u were basically chaos botting
While u were watching Fire Force
Checks out
surreal gyro
they lost their Wei with Tier 4/Season 3
it was the same thing when T3 came out, people just dont like it now because they already had grinded books/gems in T3
people say T4 is too p2w and all that but are not forced to get lvl 10 gems in T4 , you are not forced ot have relic books either
u are just thinking that its too p2w cause u cant get them now
burnt tree
i dont think lvl 10 gems got to do with anything
since they arent a requirment for anything nor will be for atleast another year
mystic basin
swift magnet
early T4 and early T3
reduced mats
burnt tree
idk personally i would have prefered a hard reset
this "pseudo" hard reset is ass
and the gap between players is even bigger
surreal gyro
a hard reset would kill the game for most veterans
the gap was bigger in early T3 as well
swift magnet
feeling great doing early t4 chaos dungeons and get 0 gems or even 1680 to get 1 lvl 1 gem :p and not much mats compared to t3
burnt tree
bruh i dont get even 1 gem at 1680 sometimes
slender sky
oh no
surreal gyro
T3 only became "good" at its end
swift magnet
idk personally i would have prefered a hard reset
yus i am kinda the same opinion. level the playfield for all.
slender sky
hes at it again
surreal gyro
cause they wanted to boost everyone up
slender sky
xdd
surreal gyro
yeh im at it again because we are doing selective thinking here
slender sky
literally juggling between reddit and discord
burnt tree
why should ppl wait for the future for the tier to actually feel good when they are supposed to have learned from tier 3 to begin with
surreal gyro
What doesnt feel good in T4 as it is now
burnt tree
people are worried about the present mf
surreal gyro
u have cheap AH
swift magnet
Compared to T3 in what state
even early t3 had at elast 1 lvl 1 gem at the earliest stage of chaos dungeon for example
surreal gyro
u can get to 1660 very easily
swift magnet
t4 just feels weird
burnt tree
i mean u can get to 1680 very easily with the event but that doesnt change the fact it feels bad playing in it
swift magnet
and this chop up you get into t4 but cant use ark apssive before 16660 before the t3 arkpassive patch was also ass
burnt tree
if the solution to everything was "wait for a tier to get old enough to be playable" then everyone should quit and wait another year? xd
slender sky
if the solution to everything was "wait for a tier to get old enough to be playa...
well that is his argument for everything. the opposite of literally anything he suggests would "kill the game"
swift magnet
well that is his argument for everything. the opposite of literally anything he ...
wanna have fun now not at eos
swift magnet
my goal is to have 1 +25 in the future. even if it takes 1 year or more. its simple get +25 as f2p and dont hone any other char if you arent lucky or tap over time. to me its the latter. over time and hone my alts up cuz i like to play them. but t4 is really expensive. sad that raising alts is so diffilcult
teal thistle
if the solution to everything was "wait for a tier to get old enough to be playa...
They should just turn this game into a seasonal game atp, its the same lol
swift magnet
and on top of that weird dev decisions
swift magnet
They should just turn this game into a seasonal game atp, its the same lol
maybe i am one of few guys that would quit then. i hate seasonal games xD
reset every few months just to do the same again to get wiped again xD
queen grail
i was watching fire force during that time
I too watch Fire Force
@burnt tree Oki 
Let's go
surreal gyro
we only got our lvl 10 gems at the end of T3
we oly got our 25s at the end of T3
we never did any of that on early or mid T3
T3 only was better torwards its end when AGS was juicing us with orehas and the dailies were giving a lot of mats
thorny olive
feeling great doing early t4 chaos dungeons and get 0 gems or even 1680 to get 1...
Wut, 1680 chaos gives way more than any T3 chaos ever did
Well, gems aren't amazing, but mats
Alto usually like lvl 2 gems
low nebula
https://tenor.com/view/gif-tamaki-kotatsu-gif-18363381
why the lady is naked 
thorny olive
why the lady is naked <:Susge:1065387133990355014>
She has about as much clothes as a lost ark character
swift magnet
Well, gems aren't amazing, but mats
1680 kinda gives me the same amount as my 1610 breaker chaos dungeon in average. only gems are way worse. sometimes 1 lvl 1 only. glad i didnt encountered 0 gems in 1680 like sathona
so yeah mats is more
thorny olive
1680 kinda gives me the same amount as my 1610 breaker chaos dungeon in average....
Worst case is lvl 1 = lvl 3 gem, and I seen less than lvl 3 gem in 1610 chaos
swift magnet
compared to end t3
queen grail
why the lady is naked <:Susge:1065387133990355014>
She has clothes on you perv.
I can't even with you.
low nebula
She has about as much clothes as a lost ark character
my lost ark characters armored af
thorny olive
my lost ark characters armored af
I seen ur Aya in skin colored micro bikini
thorny olive
we oly got our 25s at the end of T3
Big cap
A lot of people had +25 during all soft resets
Problem was the soft resets
So took a while to get back to it each time
wicked blade
wicked blade
i dont even have aya
Lies
low nebula
im baseg
queen grail
Oki I found grp @burnt tree
queen grail
@burnt tree
thorny olive
low nebula
surreal gyro
A lot of people had +25 during all soft resets
who is the lot of people most people got it at the end of T3 we didnt have time to get 25s come on
low nebula
same skin now
queen grail
@burnt tree 
low nebula
char just 1690
burnt tree
a
burnt tree
what
burnt tree
where
burnt tree
a
queen grail
Brother.
burnt tree
im watching cdrama
queen grail
Why you just random afk and not say anything 
burnt tree
ok
wicked blade
<:SMH:1175828185993203802> Brother.
And u call me slow
queen grail
You can watch the fucking show after 
burnt tree
im also cooking dinner
queen grail
im also cooking dinner
I'll cook you.
thorny olive
who is the lot of people most people got it at the end of T3 we didnt have time ...
Erm, well, I guess if you count brel as end of T3, on my server at least there was people with +25 during brel ancient and ofc later with akkan ancient
burnt tree
i had started working on it b4 u ask me for aegir
queen grail
i had started working on it b4 u ask me for aegir
then just say that.
surreal gyro
Erm, well, I guess if you count brel as end of T3, on my server at least there w...
ofc there were people with 25s i didnt say no1 had them, but compared to end T3 it was night and day how many people had them
burnt tree
<:SMH:1175828185993203802> then just say that.
i forgot
thorny olive
ofc there were people with 25s i didnt say no1 had them, but compared to end T3 ...
Fair enough, there was definitely a lot more at end
surreal gyro
ill tell u what the problem is and ill stop this yapping
burnt tree
seggs
surreal gyro
Negativity is easily spread if in general all u see is a negative sentiment then every thing starts looking like a problem and it starts affecting more and more people
its like a domino effect
turbid oriole
im also cooking dinner
whats cooking
burnt tree
whats cooking
fries and eggs
turbid oriole
interesting combo
burnt tree
frfr
burnt tree
<a:hanaPat:1077434408384069773>
glass spindle
how many alts is the norm in lost ark
surreal gyro
5
queen grail
how many alts is the norm in lost ark
6 total 
Main and 5 alts
You can only make gold from raid up to 6 chars
glass spindle
is the game boring if u only ply one char
wicked blade
is the game boring if u only ply one char
It is not
You have fun with one character, finish raids and dailies and just go with your life
If u play 6 char, better get second job
burnt tree
is the game boring if u only ply one char
depends
if u like the game enough to wanna play it more than 1-2 days
queen grail
@burnt tree
burnt tree
2-3 alts are fine too, 5-6 is overdoing it
burnt tree
xdd
burnt tree
Guess the gearscore <@888771554631118849>
1710
queen grail
queen grail
Yea, I don't get it, they really think 100 men couldn't whoop a gorilla
wicked blade
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
Whale
queen grail
they had weapons
Listen, not our fault the animals can't just craft a weapon 
sucks to not evolve far enough.
burnt tree
Listen, not our fault the animals can't just craft a weapon <:shrugR:72758745704...
gorillas can use clubs
queen grail
100 somewhat strong guys will still get it.
Now, if the question was "Can 100 Lost Ark Gamers take down 1 Gorilla" then that's a no 
lone rampart
mystic basin
deadeye now 1680