support players quitting en masse
#lost-ark-discussions
wicked blade
Ye, no thanks
swift tree
average wage is like 20 euro / hour though
craggy parrot
Maybe the outrage will be big enough that they make roster wide gems
swift tree
KR is split, waiting to see if something boils over
stark sky
literally roster wide gems is way better than whatever fiasco this shit is
craggy parrot
I don’t see how you can be happy about these changes
swift tree
literally roster wide gems is way better than whatever fiasco this shit is
same system but with roster-wide instead of character bound, boom, fixed
craggy parrot
Players quitting en masse makes even less money
stark sky
Exactly
burnt tree
People will just not convert gems and play the way they always hae
Had**
7 days is insane
stark sky
No they won't lol
swift tree
7 days is insane
is that the official number?
stark sky
Yeah it's 7 days on their notes
wicked blade
I only really play 1 char
burnt tree
is that the official number?
Yeah
And to bypass the cooldown it costs BC apparently
There is no separate cost for restoring the 'Jewel of Radiance', but restoration is possible after 7 days (168 hours) from the time of tuning .
If you restore before the restoreable point, you can restore by consuming crystals.
burnt tree
Frfr
tall mango
I need a nap nyaa ......
swift tree
And to bypass the cooldown it costs BC apparently
called it
worldly hawk
I need a nap nyaa ......
swift tree
cool to know that at least the gems can be combined
something to really push AGS on is to make our ones roster wide.
a) we're not fucking using gems for stocks
b) those that are, are the RMT'ers
c) we've had less time overall to farm gems compared to KR
hidden jay
Where even is that
swift tree
Where even is that
in the baltics probably
safe lark
serbia
craggy parrot
Wait they made it so it’s easy to tell who binds and who doesn’t
wicked blade
Where even is that
Serbia yeah
craggy parrot
Jfc lmao
burnt tree
Wait they made it so it’s easy to tell who binds and who doesn’t
Bound gem is also like 5% stronger than non bound
Or well in total if you make all ur gems bound vs unbound andies
burnt tree
Well for people who play 1 of each class its good
People with multiple of the same its kinda joever
swift tree
Good thing I half-assed it
swift tree
It's something to fuck the bots farming gems?
they could still trade gems since the market still exists
wicked blade
Ye
lunar hedge
Don't fuck the bots wtf
subtle cliff
Guess I'm making a gunslinger this time instead of my 4th Deadeye 
swift tree
Don't fuck the bots wtf
tall mango
they could still trade gems since the market still exists
doesn't it have cooldown tho?
swift tree
doesn't it have cooldown tho?
7 days or spent BC
tall mango
7 days or spent BC
Hmmm okay nyaa
craggy parrot
People with multiple of the same its kinda joever
Isn’t this most supp mains
swift tree
Isn’t this most supp mains
Supps don't have to worry too much about the bonus, but it's still an issue
It's basically like removing their elixirs
swift tree
Most supp mains? I have 1 supp main and 1 dps rat main
sup mains with clones for gold six
worldly hawk
craggy parrot
Is there only 1 supp main?
celest tiger
Necromancy bard - the only supp that matters most to me
worldly hawk
Necromancy bard - the only supp that matters most to me <:wahoo:1288727601032204...
you are a criminal
swift tree
Necromancy bard - the only supp that matters most to me <:wahoo:1288727601032204...
inb4 necromancy becomes a revive skill
"spawn a clone of another player for 1m 30s"
rocky plume
new raiding roster 3 raids per week
lunar hedge
Time to juice up necro books
safe lark
new raiding roster 3 raids per week <:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
just buy lvl10 gems on every char cheapo
swift tree
new raiding roster 3 raids per week <:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
Hey, at least you'll have deadzone removed so you can raise your backlog of alts to Tier 4
worldly hawk
Hey, at least you'll have deadzone removed so you can raise your backlog of alts...
are they removing that?
tall mango
new raiding roster 3 raids per week <:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
Dw ... They will enable class change soon nyaaa~
lunar hedge
"spawn a clone of another player for 1m 30s"
rocky plume
sg droped endgame raiding by x6
worldly hawk
haven't read anything about that
celest tiger
Hey, at least you'll have deadzone removed so you can raise your backlog of alts...
True enough
swift tree
are they removing that?
Yes
rocky plume
wicked blade
swift tree
so what's changing?
no details, just "We've seen the feedback on the deadzone between 1600 and 1620, and LOA On is far too long to be waiting on that"
burnt tree
new raiding roster 3 raids per week <:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
you should bench the one with esther
so u can achieve true freedom
swift tree
that was a shout out to West because we've been vocal about it
worldly hawk
that was a shout out to West because we've been vocal about it
well yeah because 1600 to 1620 sucks
it costs more than 1640-1660
burnt tree
1585 to 1620 sucks
swift tree
well yeah because 1600 to 1620 sucks
💯
swift tree
1585 to 1620 sucks
yes but 1600-1620 especially sucks
burnt tree
lets not be picky the whole process is ass
they should just add seggs update to save the game
swift tree
(Breaker was swapped for an Ignite server paladin).
burnt tree
then ppl will forget about the ongoing issues
worldly hawk
https://tenor.com/view/karina-aespa-coconut-water-eww-disgusting-gif-48152527129...
she taken btw?
subtle cliff
Nah
burnt tree
she taken btw?
most likely
worldly hawk
burnt tree
them Korean idols will say they arent dating but they actually are
worldly hawk
Give me class swap tickets right NOW
right MEOW?!?
swift tree
then ppl will forget about the ongoing issues
they'll just add fem seggs, so us gays will miss out
burnt tree
they'll just add fem seggs, so us gays will miss out
they will add lesbians and normie seggs
swift tree
I'll forgive everything if they give Kazeros a bulgy tho
worldly hawk
anyways, time for some good ol rocket league
celest tiger
they'll just add fem seggs, so us gays will miss out
Truth
worldly hawk
burnt tree
the only bulgy kazeros will have is his spine bones popping out when hes beheaded
tall mango
they'll just add fem seggs, so us gays will miss out
Nyaw way....
subtle cliff
Damn
swift tree
i hope thirain dies
Marry Meehan
burnt tree
wdym you got a sidereal weapon but ure so ass
swift tree
Meehan, low-key actually rules the country
celest tiger
i hope thirain dies
Nuuuu not my hubby 😭
burnt tree
Nuuuu not my hubby 😭
its ok theres Armen left
but he will probably die too
ultimate sacrifice yada yada
bitter lichen
WHENS NEXT EXPRESS
celest tiger
its ok theres Armen left
Yeah but he kinda crazy now 🤣
burnt tree
Yeah but he kinda crazy now 🤣
??
tall mango
WHENS NEXT EXPRESS
Tomowwow nyaaa
burnt tree
Armen is cool 😎
subtle cliff
But then again now that I think about it
I don't like any other class aside from deadeye
Guess it's whatever
subtle cliff
How about you fk 
celest tiger
Summ for me, can't help it 😆
burnt tree
How about you fk <:THIS:1317909365776187453>
slow plank
absolute dog gem change
bitter lichen
How about you fk <:THIS:1317909365776187453>
subtle cliff
burnt tree
sathona being toxic as usual
im the least toxic person here
bitter lichen
celest tiger
Raven would agree
burnt tree
The most toxic person is Raven
true ngl
low nebula
The most toxic person is Raven
most anime avatars with anime sound names users are sus
subtle cliff
worldly hawk
The most toxic person is Raven
i agree!
low nebula
<:Susge:1065387133990355014>
tis the truth 
subtle cliff
You're not wrong
tall mango
most anime avatars with anime sound names users are sus
Agweed to dis
subtle cliff
tall mango
<:Starege:874773326407548978>
cweepy...
swift tree
Armen is cool 😎
meanwhile all the Petranian characters are some different kind of 
low nebula
i didnt like armen from luteria
at same exact moment when i fought the beast, won it and then lost in custcene to be saved by armen
burnt tree
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ugtWT_iNqw
peak musiq
swift tree
i didnt like armen from luteria
simple, the writing pre-Vern was kinda shit.
tall mango
Alwight dailies done.... time to nap nyaaa~
burnt tree
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeEmoIO-Iok&pp=ygUTZW5kc2luZ2VyIHNwYWNlIGphbQ%3D%3D ah u prefer this @low nebula ?
modest ravine
granite gazelle
HA unlocks at 1620 right on later characters you go to beatrix after
modest ravine
granite gazelle
or what lvl is it
burnt tree
https://youtu.be/I4O5CVvwgFI?si=-rFJyALQFiPycUQ2
1640
vocal pollen
Favorite ff14 song is the one that the composer made while hospitalized
burnt tree
he composed it in hospital during covid while battling cancer 
burnt tree
https://tenor.com/view/ff14-final-fantasy14-bozja-red-comet-iki-iki-gif-18861938
ah yes the red chocobo
my favourite boss
modest ravine
LA HEEEEE
burnt tree
vocal pollen
Was fun, had all these serious songs, and the pulse remixes in music box in house, then all of the sudden papaya
lunar hedge
Do you know...
tall mango
Guys i fucking hate you fow weal
burnt tree
lol
vocal pollen
vocal pollen
But what about the pulse remix?
I remember it having one but not what it sounds like xdd
lunar hedge
It does
vocal pollen
I haven't played in so long, since auto demo is like perma disabled for my region, don't even need to sub to keep house
thorny olive
Cool gem change speed running eos
thorny olive
I feel bad for anyone who share gems
burnt tree
but the damage boost is nice for ppl with multi class rosters
thorny olive
Yeah except it's unnecessary
fresh flint
F2P my arsehole
rocky plume
just play only 1 raiding character
fresh flint
That’s what I said previously. Focus on dodging.
lunar hedge
I mean, I now have two characters that can t4 raid
Still trying to push the second to brel2
thorny olive
Wtf do I do with my shadowhunter
thorny olive
Throw her in the bin I guess
fresh flint
I’m confused what’s the issue ?
slender sky
I’m confused what’s the issue ?
ppl get madge over the gem changes
fresh flint
Oh
worldly hawk
ppl get madge over the gem changes
as usual when SG makes actual good changes
fresh flint
They’re still usable by roster right?
lunar hedge
No idea. All I'm getting is people malding over gem roster sharing bound cooldown across 7 days
Whatever it was
fresh flint
The cooldown is excessive but the gem change is great.
slender sky
as usual when SG makes actual good changes
not particularly good, just neutral
dusk wharf
who here playing scouter and SH 
slender sky
instead of making the system good for everyone they decided to lower same class rosters to the same shit eating multi class rosters endure
thorny olive
who here playing scouter and SH <:ArtistCaught:1235998124636639322>
My SH dies
fresh flint
The only thing same class rosters lose out on is the upgrade correct? If they don’t bind them?
neon cedar
Yea
thorny olive
The only thing same class rosters lose out on is the upgrade correct? If they do...
Well, yes, and you'll have to get a set of useless garbage gems for ur transform classes just for basic attack bonus..
But the worst part is, supports have never had a big choice in verity so a lot will run same class
rocky plume
how is the director name?
thorny olive
Idk, but his name may aswell be asshole
versed heart
have you guys seen new gem changes? ig its being talked about
W director recently. these 1class or 2 class rosters have been roaming around freely for too long
thorny olive
whatever will same class roster bozos do
Have shit gems on alts so you have more crap equipped players for you to play with, enjoy
versed heart
deserved for not playing the game correctly
thorny olive
deserved for not playing the game correctly
Yeah because support only players had such a big verity of classes to begin with...
craggy parrot
Why do people have problems with same class rosters all of a sudden
thorny olive
Idk, who the f cares, I don't have same classes and clearly see how bad this change is for those who play support only or have transform classes who only use gems for basic attack bonus
versed heart
enjoy being gatekept if you dont invest on your characters
rocky plume
we want relikt books only for 1 character
wintry depot
Idk, who the f cares, I don't have same classes and clearly see how bad this cha...
Its prob 1% more dmg given as a support if you bind them, its whatever
Just invest in better rings
rocky plume
and card
wintry depot
And it will be way better
thorny olive
we want relikt books only for 1 character
Good idea, make books char only so these multi book users get nerfed too
fallow crater
enjoy being gatekept if you dont invest on your characters
Imagine how the support shortage had been ? Also theres 3 support classes and even 2/2/2 chosers will be punished, but at least you feel good about yourself now
thorny olive
XD
slender sky
Why do people have problems with same class rosters all of a sudden
the west does not, its a problem in KR, not for us
rocky plume
everything character bound
modest ravine
I LOVE MEN
rocky plume
i create a new name for my main
fallow crater
Char roster level / runes / skill potions
thorny olive
Imagine how the support shortage had been ? Also theres 3 support classes and ev...
The guy just thinks about their own benefit, but he can play the game alone when all these multi class people quit
craggy parrot
the west does not, its a problem in KR, not for us
Crazy that instead of fixing the problem he points a finger instead and then charges them for it
slender sky
Crazy that instead of fixing the problem he points a finger instead and then cha...
he couldve just collected the easiest W of his life, but he decided to make up some backwards system to not piss off his 25 whales
fallow crater
The guy just thinks about their own benefit, but he can play the game alone when...
Hes clearly selfish out of touch , just wanted to flame abit and pull out
versed heart
if you can only play one class then maybe its a good change if you quit ig
stark sky
A lot of players who previously had 0 problems with same class rosters all of a sudden have a sudden disdain for them after announcement
thorny olive
A lot of players who previously had 0 problems with same class rosters all of a ...
Yeah it's crazy
stark sky
fallow crater
Imagine the lobby simulator the last 3 years ........
stark sky
They're just people who feed off negative energy
digital holly
fallow crater
The thing people wanted was roster wide gem options , not then making the power gap of whales even bigger
That would help new / returneres aswell
stark sky
Doesn't make them money lol
fallow crater
Yup back to the whale thing , ofc they gotta profit and keep the game/company alive
thorny olive
The thing people wanted was roster wide gem options , not then making the power ...
Yes, I used to play 2 bards and know the pain of swapping gems like that, just make it better -_-
stark sky
There's 50% of people with a dupe character in roster in global
fallow crater
Rage bait
stark sky
Around 30% of the total playerbase are 3+ dupes
wicked blade
Wait a second... If I have lvl 10 T4, I get lvl 8 T4? 
2 gem classes just got better
swift tree
KR huffing individualism
wicked blade
so they day before the patch fuse all your gems
If you play 2 gem class, yeah
worldly hawk
so they day before the patch fuse all your gems
i won't be fusing my gems until i fully understand how the system works
craggy parrot
“6 unique classers had to buy 66 lvl 8 gems” yeah that’s a lie they’re still running around with event gems
surreal gyro
the gem changes are coming after summer LOAON in KR so we still have time to see their full impact
stiff shoal
fusing before the day of the patch wont matter, because the cutoff point for the free lvl8 was 2 days ago in KR
fallow crater
Dont worry the bots are working as hard they can to drive gems down
thorny olive
fusing before the day of the patch wont matter, because the cutoff point for the...
It's probably just for KR anyway
thorny olive
But yeah idk, I have friends who play 2 of the same class cuz they like it and share gems with main and they might quit over this.. great
thorny olive
Awakening stones <:KEKW:834726120606924850>
I just had tons in roster because I couldn't bother exchanging them often and they just stole it and gave like no silver back
swift tree
bad translations but Inven blowing up with "Whelp, guess I'm qutting, fuck this"
stark sky
A lot of the comments are in support of the change
Kr is like 50/50 from what I can tell
swift tree
A lot of the comments are in support of the change
even some in support are to the tune of "why wasnt this done back during Season 3 launch"
craggy parrot
So annoying that they just want everyone to struggle instead of making it better for everyone
stark sky
Would've been fine then tbh
swift tree
yeah because everyone would have more or less started on the same playing field, Tier 4 launch straight up encouraged people to combined gems into single set
fresh flint
Hmm
stark sky
it also encouraged people to play efficiently because of the absurd cost of the systems
slender sky
just.make.them.roster.bound.
loa.is.not.the.stock.market
stark sky
haha
swift tree
it also encouraged people to play efficiently because of the absurd cost of the ...
that too
thorny olive
just.make.them.roster.bound.
loa.is.not.the.stock.market
Agree
swift tree
Tier 4 AH being more expensive is fucking nuts
candid cloak
just.make.them.roster.bound.
loa.is.not.the.stock.market
preach
fresh flint
Yeah roster bound would be way better and they know this
swift tree
(it's not now but the fact that it was)
swift tree
Yeah roster bound would be way better and they know this
bUt wE dOnT wAnT tO TaNk PrIcEs
if your whole economy balances on the value of skill gems, for something required to earn a progression income, then you've fucked yourself
thorny olive
bUt wE dOnT wAnT tO TaNk PrIcEs
Well, with the amount of people who quit maybe gems go down
fresh flint
bUt wE dOnT wAnT tO TaNk PrIcEs
Then you’d have a whole other crowd displeased. It’s a lose lose situation atp
slender sky
11x lvl10 gems are still over 22million gold - as a CHARACTER boost, even if they were roster bound it would still be an expensive dmg upgrade but at least not completely unbearable
swift tree
so -> BC cooldown reset
this is almost as bad as making players run a single quest instance for 4 years straight in order to upgrade their weapons
thorny olive
11x lvl10 gems are still over 22million gold - as a CHARACTER boost, even if the...
That's also a thing, those with multi of same class usually have better gems which might be around same value as others with crap gems on alts
fresh flint
I’m glad at this point I do no gem sharing
swift tree
I’m glad at this point I do no gem sharing
I got backups
broken lava
fresh flint
https://tenor.com/view/jhope-arson-jhope-arson-fire-bora-fire-gif-26207734
Porple
fresh flint
<a:purple_amongass:858263794081071114>
Rip you
thorny olive
Idk, this change shouldn't come to west where half the population play same class roster and no one gave a fk until now
swift tree
Rip you
If they release it w/ fixed deadzone I'll be fine
I'll suddenly have 12 characters to farm gems at a fairly decent rate
stark sky
Idk, this change shouldn't come to west where half the population play same clas...
They didn't care in kr either
Lol
thorny olive
We need T5 gems now with the change
stark sky
The problem in kr they cared about was people going to stronghold and trading gems between accounts
swift tree
We need T5 gems now with the change
low-key that's what they are
fresh flint
If they release it w/ fixed deadzone I'll be fine
I think dead zone comes before gem change since dead zone is more urgent imo
thorny olive
low-key that's what they are
Yeah but new acquisition method to level the play field
swift tree
I think dead zone comes before gem change since dead zone is more urgent imo
It does, yes
swift tree
Yeah but new acquisition method to level the play field
-> tank Korean market
fresh flint
And I cannot wait
thorny olive
-> tank Korean market
Good, fk KR
swift tree
Gem Changes: Summer
Tier 3 Changes: Next Month
swift tree
Good, fk KR
oh bet, but they're already being piss shits for other reasons
fresh flint
It’s probably going to be super late tho and honestly I want a 6th earner this week rather than a few weeks later
thorny olive
Gem changes: next month
Tier 3 changes: never
swift tree
Gem changes: next month
Tier 3 changes: never
they announced the t3 changes
craggy parrot
Reduce the gold of honing to 1620 by 10%
swift tree
Korea doesn't get honing changes announced until day-of sadly
swift tree
but he literally just said "We know about the dead zone, and think Summer is too long to wait"
thorny olive
they announced the t3 changes
But that doesn't give them more money
swift tree
But that doesn't give them more money
more characters taken through new gold sinks
fresh flint
but he literally just said "We know about the dead zone, and think Summer is too...
No shit it’s too late. They’re so donkey brained.
thorny olive
more characters taken through new gold sinks
Ah
thorny olive
No shit it’s too late. They’re so donkey brained.
That's being generous
swift tree
No shit it’s too late. They’re so donkey brained.
you'd be surprised some MMOs literally just go "fuck it, that's not our problem anymore" and move onto next level range
fresh flint
you'd be surprised some MMOs literally just go "fuck it, that's not our problem ...
Yeah. I know. I play mmos only
thorny olive
Instead of changing gems they could have just introduced another page of garbage
swift tree
Yeah. I know. I play mmos only
want to see Assura breaker but in a 20 year old quickslot MMO?
fresh flint
Introducing: 2nd set of gems. You can now equip 2 pages of gems in total!
thorny olive
Yea
fresh flint
want to see Assura breaker but in a 20 year old quickslot MMO?
Sure
thorny olive
Perfect
stark sky
introducing battle items character bound
if you use battle items while they're character bound they're 50% more effective
fresh flint
Except this 2nd page of gems is specially obtained via a secret dungeon that’s spawns once a week in a random location.
stark sky
if you lock your engravings to a certain character they'll be 50% more effective
shit lets do that for cards too
if you lock your cards on a certain character you can get los 45
fresh flint
Los 30? Introducing los 30.5
broken lava
to be fckin fair, the gem tunement system would be good if, only IF the now doubled the Gems we get from a chaos and such
swift tree
to be fckin fair, the gem tunement system would be good if, only IF the now doub...
which they wont
see: KR market
craggy parrot
They charge bc for that
swift tree
reminder that they also literally sold gems in the shop at one point so they have a monetary value too
thorny olive
They should turn everyone's gems into silver with the change so people have to farm gems again to level the playing field
fresh flint
Lv 10 gems are about 25k silver. Decreases by 10% per tier.
broken lava
huh
thorny olive
Perfect
thorny olive
Even better
fresh flint
broken lava
thorny olive
Yeah, fr
broken lava
when we are already cooking
don't you guys think 1680 should have bring us new type of mats like back in T3?
swift tree
don't you guys think 1680 should have bring us new type of mats like back in T3?
they're not doing a soft-reset
broken lava
destiny leapstones? how about advanced destiny Leapstones
broken lava
they're not doing a soft-reset
not as a softreset, just do it for the fun of it
fresh flint
destiny leapstones? how about advanced destiny Leapstones
Advanced Heavenly Tuned Leapstones
broken lava
OHhhhhhh!
thorny olive
don't you guys think 1680 should have bring us new type of mats like back in T3?
Yeah just to reduce the mat value by x5 for fun
broken lava
that is the idea
you can now tune your mats to a char
but that makes the honing 50% cheaper
tall mango
Advanced Heavenly Tuned Leapstones
Advanced Heavenly Tuned Leapstones Of Destruction Of Doom Of The Nyancalypse
fresh flint
Tuning your mats makes them bound but they offer an additional 1% chance at honing that does not add to the pity chance.
thorny olive
Tuning your mats makes them bound but they offer an additional 1% chance at honi...
But it reduces the mats by x10
slender sky
buncha yappers
swift tree
How about we split shards into stat types, but make them roster bound, instead of fusions there's this mineral resource you have to farm--- let's called it "Arkesium" after Arkesia that you can either get from Trade Skills or also from doing any of the island, dailies and other content.
And to push your gear up honing levels you need to get monster pieces from the most recent Guardian Raid for its relevant levels.
Like you use Deskaluda to push from 1415 to 1460 then use Kunga to push to 1490 etc.
fresh flint
But it reduces the mats by x10
fresh flint
How about we split shards into stat types, but make them roster bound, instead o...
Wait…
thorny olive
How about we split shards into stat types, but make them roster bound, instead o...
Better than the gem change
swift tree
Better than the gem change
I'm describing Season 1
tall mango
Argos scales
swift tree
It's why Season 1 had so many extra islands
wicked blade
Better than the gem change
tall mango
nyaaa.... the pain
swift tree
then suddenly it all dropped off
swift tree
https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-yap-yapper-yapping-gif-5642199211123099306
nice reply dipshit
thorny olive
swift tree
Kat is the yapper
thought that was targeted at my wall of text lol
wicked blade
thought that was targeted at my wall of text lol
No, u usually have a good point
swift tree
No, u usually have a good point
aw
fresh flint
Argos scales
Argos was so fun though
thorny olive
He's just afraid of admitting his mistakes
swift tree
that's somewhat nice...
who are you and what have you done with Raven
fresh flint
I miss Argos days
thorny olive
Me too
wicked blade
that's somewhat nice...
who are you and what have you done with Raven <:Susge:10...
What? I can be nice sometimes
tall mango
Argos was so fun though
Not when you do 80% of dmg nyaa
wicked blade
swift tree
I miss Argos, I don't miss PLAYERS in argos
thorny olive
Instead we got behemoth the LOUD fucking dragon who shits all over the floor
fresh flint
Not when you do 80% of dmg nyaa
I did about 1% back in the day. I always matchmade it too.
swift tree
nevermind me, how did that banned pingu clip get there
thorny olive
He doesn't move or anything
Guess he's also handicapped
wicked blade
People still somehow jail in G2 tho
fresh flint
Isn't Behemoth just a punching bag at this point?
Yeah. We did it so fast other day he skipped whole ass phases and just died
wicked blade
It is beyond me how
swift tree
Guess he's also handicapped
he did take an arrow to the knee
thorny olive
Poor shit dragon
wicked blade
wicked blade
Yeah. We did it so fast other day he skipped whole ass phases and just died
Yeah, I was in full 1700 party
Lets just say it was overkill
swift tree
whould you rather be a girl that poos or a bitch that shits?
broken lava
wonder why people still do behe
wicked blade
wonder why people still do behe
Tokens
swift tree
wonder why people still do behe
1640 level materials vs 1630 gold
tall mango
whould you rather be a girl that poos or a bitch that shits?
Boys can be bitch so i chose the second one uwu
wicked blade
It is also better to do Behemoth for gold then Echidna
I ain't jailing G2 for 1k gold
By some shitard that greeds
swift tree
Bound for cooldown?
bind them for a 7-day cooldown or miss out on a 10% AP bonus
AP bonus will affect supports too
ebon snow
w-wha 10%?!
swift tree
either 5% stacking with the Tier 4 bonus, or 10% total
either way it's enough
Saintone literally last night "It wont be 5% that'd be crazy"
swift tree
the important part
swift tree
Its enuff for gatekeeping
yup
worn current
ebon snow
Hey bard, bind your gems or get kicked!!!1
slender sky
ebon snow
torn ether
how much fire is inven on right now?
craggy parrot
It hurts the playerbase so they actually like it
slender sky
50:50
uncut dirge
NAE gem prices are up tho
Of course, anyone that played multiples of the same class suddenly needs extra sets of gems
swift tree
SG really is cooking
Frying if anything
thorny olive
SG found a great way to get people to swipe some more
Well, assuming the 50% who plays same class doesn't quit
thorny olive
Anyone hear from <@212378747293270026> ?
Arna said "it ok"
uncut dirge
Idk what to do
swift tree
RIP to anyone playing SH or scouter
level 5 cooldowns for meter building skills
uncut dirge
Maybe put paladin on the roster
low nebula
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1234880524024025150/1367878139572912203/image.png?ex=68162f4a&is=6814ddca&hm=6889a4cb32bb92cd1733b875434ae3e4752973dbf14bf4d9499f823ebfe06803&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=617&height=704 100 stones, im in purple jail forever
uncut dirge
And have it as a 2 char roster
distant charm
How many taps are a pity
swift tree
How many taps are a pity
honing or quality?
low nebula
How many taps are a pity
swift tree
there's no quality pity
distant charm
Honing ye
slender sky
on what?
distant charm
Armor
thorny olive
How many taps are a pity
∞
slender sky
dawg
uncut dirge
Hmm or maybe demote the main SE to an alt and use only event gems
distant charm
Aegir lmao
uncut dirge
And put gems on the alt that doesn't have event gems
distant charm
Didnt realize it changed from set to set mb jajajaaj
broken lava
it changes based on the lvl it is
uncut dirge
And then leave the alts at whatever ilvl they are
distant charm
Oh i see
slender sky
it not only changes from set to set, it also changes according to how high it is
swift tree
So, say 20% is the base rate. 100% / 20% is 5. Half-rate that means 10 taps
distant charm
15 to 16 Aegir armor mb
distant charm
So, say 20% is the base rate. 100% / 20% is 5. Half-rate that means 10 taps
Real thanks
swift tree
Express events usually change artisan gain rate to full so you get a 1:1
broken lava
hmmm
doesn't really work that way cause after the first tap the chance would go higher
thorny olive
So, say 20% is the base rate. 100% / 20% is 5. Half-rate that means 10 taps
So 3% is basically 67 taps
uncut dirge
Oh yeah I bet event gems won't work as bound gems too
distant charm
100k for 3 pieces, do i send it
swift tree
It's why juicing at that point is better because it raises it up by double 3% -> 6%
uncut dirge
To make sure that people don't stay on those filthy event gems
swift tree
100k for 3 pieces, do i send it
thorny olive
Yeah do it
swift tree
Oh yeah I bet event gems won't work as bound gems too
which is dumb, they should just auto-convert
since they're already bound
thorny olive
100k for 3 pieces, do i send it
Or just advance hone
distant charm
Thought it was after 16 that it made sense no
uncut dirge
which is dumb, they should just auto-convert
It's SG, the entire point of the change is to make people swipe
By making them need more gems
swift tree
It's SG, the entire point of the change is to make people swipe
no shit, this game is monetized to the tits
thorny olive
Thought it was after 16 that it made sense no
Idk anymore after nerf
swift tree
Thought it was after 16 that it made sense no
post-nerf 1-10 is same as doing +13-14
neon cedar
Thought it was after 16 that it made sense no
+14, 1-10, +16, 11-20
distant charm
Well thats unfortunate Ive gotten them all to +16 some without AH rip
swift tree
thorny olive
thorny olive
Well thats unfortunate Ive gotten them all to +16 some without AH rip
That's okay free 1680
thorny olive
swift tree
thorny olive
slender sky
broken lava
Well thats unfortunate Ive gotten them all to +16 some without AH rip
in the end doesn't really matter you need to do both anyways
swift tree
<:rat_pat:860771076325769216>
Hit Galatur x2 on 2nd last fusions
broken lava
pog
thorny olive
Hit Galatur x2 on 2nd last fusions
thorny olive
Okay, how can we get more scrolls for AH
$
thorny olive
Doesn't ark pass have some
swift tree
Mari
swift tree
Okay, how can we get more scrolls for AH
Jellybean it at this point
wicked blade
Yeah, fuck it
thorny olive
swift tree
I sold a level 5 I almost definitely need
slender sky
Hit Galatur x2 on 2nd last fusions
kat could never, shes too intimate with the chiselman at this point
wicked blade
Just gonna jelly bean it
surreal gyro
i think i need to take a break from Reddit, Youtube, Twitch, Discords everyone is doomposting like crazy
i need my inner peace
thorny olive
I only have 7 levels on last piece to go
Don't worry, I used up all scrolls and still ended up paying 450k gold
wicked blade
Don't worry, I used up all scrolls and still ended up paying 450k gold
I around 390k
With last piece around 450k
thorny olive
thorny olive
Ya
slender sky
i think i need to take a break from Reddit, Youtube, Twitch, Discords everyone i...
just dont get invested in it
and yea def cut out reddit
surreal gyro
nah this is insane
surreal gyro
the gem changes
thorny olive
i think i need to take a break from Reddit, Youtube, Twitch, Discords everyone i...
But you love the change, now take it all in
surreal gyro
i perosnally think it's good
wicked blade
surreal gyro
but every time i argue about it im called an SG bootlicker so im done with the topic
slender sky
well majority of the ppl doomposting about gem changes, would doompost anyway just about something else.
wicked blade
I hate SG and this change is good
For me at least
Cuz I play one class
And one char
thorny olive
but every time i argue about it im called an SG bootlicker so im done with the t...
50% of the playerbase have multi of same char, so granted, 50% will hate you for liking it
surreal gyro
they act as if roster-gems are useless now when that's clearly not the case
surreal gyro
and they act as if they did not have privilege before the change
slender sky
its objectively a bad change, but not nearly as drastic as all the dramaqueens make it out to be
surreal gyro
ive been gatekept a ton of times from 1 class rosters
on my alts
suddenly they forgot they have been having it way easier all this time.
wicked blade
50% of the playerbase have multi of same char, so granted, 50% will hate you for...
My friend with 6 x 1680+ SS surely hates those changes
swift tree
kat could never, shes too intimate with the chiselman at this point
I hit Temer on every grace last piece and burnt my planned mats
wicked blade
I mean they have an option
surreal gyro
"omg ll be gatekept for having roster gems now" ???? who????
wicked blade
Just don't lock in
surreal gyro
an opinion on hypothetical scenarios
WHo is going to gatekeep you for having roster games lmao
especially in the west
wicked blade
"omg ll be gatekept for having roster gems now" ???? who????
Won't people gatekeep u if u don't?
Idk man, 11 gems x ap increase is not smol
thorny olive
They'll gatekeep you for not having locked gems since it's like 5% DMG increase according to fuck knows
surreal gyro
my alts have full lvl7s and 1-2 8s at best
its not 5% dmg increase
its 5% AP scaling
thorny olive
wicked blade
Ya
thorny olive
But you see, the community works different
wicked blade
Hey, good for me. My main has full 7's and 1 level 8
slender sky
They'll gatekeep you for not having locked gems since it's like 5% DMG increase ...
probably same source that made the "cpt jack threatens to quit" thread on reddit
wicked blade
I like getting free power up
surreal gyro
probably same source that made the "cpt jack threatens to quit" thread on reddit
this one...holy hell man
and u saw how everyone jumped on the hate train?
insane.
slender sky
aka "i pulled a fat dump out of my arse"
slender sky
and u saw how everyone jumped on the hate train?
yep
coz reddit has a collective iq of 25
thorny olive
I will buy namechange just to call my DB "RattyKat"
wicked blade
<:rat_gunpoint:860771076262461480>
U right "RattyKatFromGienah"
swift tree
its like having legendary outfits
Legendary outfits are 5% raw stats, different
wicked blade
Is better
thorny olive
U right "RattyKatFromGienah"
Not my server u dumdum
thorny olive
Legendary outfits are 5% raw stats, different
Legendary outfits are a joke
thorny olive
Shh, don't anger the population
swift tree
Paladin Season 1 actually looks nice and yes I will die on that hill
craggy parrot
Doesn’t everyone think that
wicked blade
Not my server u dumdum
Ah yes, u are from that dumdumb server
thorny olive
Female paladin looks nice
wicked blade
Articus or smth like that
left maple
surreal gyro
oh nice memorizer doom video
thorny olive
Why can't they pick normal names
Idk, better than ortuus and elpon imo, but yeah EU has weird names
thorny olive
Best name goes to ratik
🐀ik
But it's also a weird ass name
EU just got the short straw
As usually
burnt tree
Ratik as a name sucks but atleast we Smartest
The wisdom server
I preferred the Zinnervale name tho
slender sky
i was nineveh once upon a time 
surreal gyro
I preferred the Zinnervale name tho
OG zinnervale here too T_T
burnt tree
Sad times
surreal gyro
best server o7
thorny olive
Ratik as a name sucks but atleast we Smartest
Rats are smart
burnt tree
Rats are smart
Frfr
thorny olive
Zinnervale is a rat too
thorny olive
True ded
burnt tree
Zinnervale died a hero put some respecc on his name
surreal gyro
someone missed a 3. here saddies
neon cedar
Zinnervale died a weenie
wicked blade
Idk, better than ortuus and elpon imo, but yeah EU has weird names
Elpon is the best
Arcturus sucks
left maple
How many Glaiviers ull play now?
thorny olive
Elpon is the best
Arcturus sucks
🐘
surreal gyro
<a:dedanim_discord:1253858406981177434>
Memo we will get through this hold my hand
thorny olive
<a:dedanim_discord:1253858406981177434>
Don't let this change happen
uncut dirge
Guys
"Attuned" engraving books. You can attune your engraving book to a character. Attuned books will grant you a bonus like an ability stone does.
You can then collect extra sets of epic, legendary, and relic books to increase your attunement level. Up to 80 books per type of engraving per character.
thorny olive
Guys
"Attuned" engraving books. You can attune your engraving book to a characte...
Amazing
uncut dirge
This is to make the game more fair for people that play a mix of back attackers, front attackers, hit masters and supports.
thorny olive
Xddd
uncut dirge
I preferred the Zinnervale name tho
I still have the guild Zinners
thorny olive
Cards will now be bound to each character, this is to make the game more fair for...
uncut dirge
surreal gyro
Your account will be split into 6 now to make you do horizontal on each character. To relive your odyssey in Arkesia
thorny olive
Character bound runes..
surreal gyro
Character bound RAPPORT
thorny olive
burnt tree
<a:dedanim_discord:1253858406981177434>
F
burnt tree
Guys
"Attuned" engraving books. You can attune your engraving book to a characte...
Nani is this
burnt tree
Character bound RAPPORT
Rapport is easy all g
thorny olive
So, what's a good replacement for lost ark
slender sky
So, what's a good replacement for lost ark
youre not quitting anyway
wintry depot
safe lark
torn ether
So, what's a good replacement for lost ark
league
uncut dirge
Nani is this
I'm trying to apply to SG
burnt tree
Pls don't
wicked blade
How else? Just using darts on the wall
uncut dirge
Nah
low nebula
oblivion was released 19 years ago, i that time i was the only one who had strong enough pc to play it on release
so all freinds went to my home to play it 
fuck im old
uncut dirge
I swear the way SG does things is:
- Listen to the community complain
- Listen to the most popular solution the community comes up with
- Do the opposite of that
fresh flint
<@196481929057402880> where cinder pictures at mf
You gonna work for me?
worldly hawk
You gonna work for me?
no but i'm gonna perform a labotomy on you if you don't show soon 
torn ether
I swear the way SG does things is:
1. Listen to the community complain
2. Listen...
at least they didnt burn ppls invesment
low nebula
I swear the way SG does things is:
1. Listen to the community complain
2. Listen...
not really
also only bozo devs listen to community solutions
uncut dirge
at least they didnt burn ppls invesment
True
worldly hawk
community solutions are uusually the worst thing a dev can do
uncut dirge
All the people that are quitting can now RMT their gems without losing value
worldly hawk
what was that one game again where devs only listened to the playerbase
it died in like a month
uncut dirge
OSRS?
slender sky
if youre refering to community solutions as roster wide gems, thats exactly what the community didnt want lmao, coz for some reason gems are more valuable than running water and electricity to korean players
tiny jolt
daaamn, so mirrors are cooked huh? guess someone out of my 6 paladins got to go
to the back of the barn
twilit ravine
I swear the way SG does things is:
1. Listen to the community complain
2. Listen...
They give u the stick so you can appreciate the bliss. No pain no narutooo
thorny olive
youre not quitting anyway
I mean, we don't have much players left and this is another way to kill off more, which means even less people which means more people quit which means even less
worldly hawk
ahh it was the culling
worldly hawk
I mean, we don't have much players left and this is another way to kill off more...
oh just quit already and stop whining about changes that are good for the game
surreal gyro
I swear the way SG does things is:
1. Listen to the community complain
2. Listen...
Just because the community wants something it doesnt mean its going to solve the problem by the way. SG has more data and they can understand better the outcome of a solution proposed by the community. Roster bound gems would not solve anything because it's too late in the games lifespan to add it, for MULTIPLE reasons we can go and analyze it if u want.
worldly hawk
this ^^
torn ether
Just because the community wants something it doesnt mean its going to solve the...
why would it be too late to put roster gems
thorny olive
oh just quit already and stop whining about changes that are good for the game
In what way are they good
worldly hawk
In what way are they good
you won't nuderstand why anyways so i'm not even going to try and explain it to you. plus you'll just move the goalpost
surreal gyro
Because the moment they do this everyone will fuse their gems
- OTP classes will still be behind compared to different class andies because they will have more gems to fuse
- Gems market will be completely crushed and pople who have invested a ton in those (especially the whales) will go balistic over it
- Gatkeeping requirements will rise up cause the averge lvl of Gems will also rise
thorny olive
you won't nuderstand why anyways so i'm not even going to try and explain it to ...
Alright so you aren't even sure yourself, gg
torn ether
Because the moment they do this everyone will fuse their gems
1. OTP classes wi...
but u didnt make a single good point sir
surreal gyro
hm?
slender sky
Just because the community wants something it doesnt mean its going to solve the...
its never too late for good changes. if that was the case you could always leave the game in a status quo anyway
surreal gyro
but roster bound gems is not a good change
slender sky
it is
torn ether
it is
slender sky
probably one of the best they could do at this point
thorny olive
It is
surreal gyro
No its not
slender sky
unless youre intentionally dense
tulip charm
surreal gyro
Its not for the CURRENT state of the game
slender sky
all t4 did was widen the gap for everyone
surreal gyro
as every new tier has done
slender sky
roster gems would close the gap a little agian
surreal gyro
No they wouldnt close any gaps
slender sky
they would
torn ether
Its not for the CURRENT state of the game
but u couldnt make a single good point for them not to do it
thorny olive
unless youre intentionally dense
Desert and Exuberance are just mening pretty sure, no way these ppl are serious
surreal gyro
if this was from the start of the game then yes, this is not the case here
surreal gyro
ITS NOT
slender sky
for a good change
surreal gyro
people would still complain and quit over it
all the OTP rosters who cry now would still cry
surreal gyro
tell me
torn ether
i am
surreal gyro
will roster bound gems help OTP rosters?
surreal gyro
because everyone who isnt an OTP will fuse them and be ahead of them, literally what is happening now and people cry about it
worldly hawk
Alright so you aren't even sure yourself, gg
you opinion matters very little to me because you cry about playercount while unique logins matter way more than players online at any moment
torn ether
because everyone who isnt an OTP will fuse them and be ahead of them, literally ...
also gem prices would go down and those ppl will also be able to but higher level gems
like
thorny olive
How is doing something that hurts majority of players better than something that doesn't hurt anyone
surreal gyro
also gem prices would go down and those ppl will also be able to but higher leve...
What makes u think that they will go down?
over time yes
torn ether
What makes u think that they will go down?
basic ecomomic knowledge
worldly hawk
How is doing something that hurts majority of players better than something that...
you know the best way to show SG and AGS you're unhappy with the game? don't play it.
torn ether
u need less stuff = stuff gets cheaper
slender sky
roster bound gems would help everyone that is not 11x lvl10 t4 and playing 6x same class while having them
quite literally
torn ether
roster bound gems would help everyone that is not 11x lvl10 t4 and playing 6x sa...
it wouldnt "harm" them either
surreal gyro
Roster bound gems at the current state of the game would be worse than what is happening now
slender sky
ok youre just full blown delulu
torn ether
brother make a good point about them being bad
surreal gyro
because you are being given the choise to either lock your gems or transfer them. Roster bound gems = FUSE all your gems
surreal gyro
i mean u are fixated on your opinion nothing i say will be good enough for u
there isnt a bad side IF THIS WAS IMPLEMENTED Day1
slender sky
thats coz you didnt bring forward a single argument why theyre harmful
torn ether
surreal gyro
u dont like my good points
torn ether
u dont have any
thorny olive
u dont like my good points
Which are?
torn ether
HAHAHA
slender sky
jesus christ
surreal gyro
How are OTP Rosters going to have a better experience if they do Roster bound gems compared to what it is with the change introduced by SG
slender sky
running in circles without saying anything
torn ether
How are OTP Rosters going to have a better experience if they do Roster bound ge...
THEY ARE NOT BEING HARMED BROTHER
THEY ARE NOT
surreal gyro
YES THEY ARE
surreal gyro
BECAUSE I WILL FUSE ALL MY GEMS IN MY ACCOUNT AND GET ROSTER LvL 9s and 10s and you WONT
torn ether
do i need to explain it again?
thorny olive
Sounds like a guy who just wants to sell his gems for real cash
thorny olive
That's why he likes the change, more buyers
surreal gyro
MORE GEMS IN THE ECONOMY FROM WHO WHEN ILL FUSE THEM
tall mango
Nyaaaa guys wtf ... You still at it?
low nebula
second today
surreal gyro
youre fkin clueless
torn ether
cant be as much as u
covert remnant
The director smoked something guys....
Must be good to get that high
split grove
i play 6 same class and the change doesn’t really matter for me because instead of paying for 5 sets of extra gems I just bought relic books instead lmao
it just closes the gap
slender sky
same class rosters alrdy SKIPPED the step of fusing their gems the status quo is that they ARE AHEAD, coz they only needed one set in the first place. multi class rosters would fuse their gems and get on the same playing field. instead of making the system miserable for everyone equally they couldve just made the system good for everyone
past ginkgo
I mean, we don't have much players left and this is another way to kill off more...
I actually read through this gem detail thing, wtf are they thinking LOL
thorny olive
I actually read through this gem detail thing, wtf are they thinking LOL
Idk, it's dumb af
torn ether
I actually read through this gem detail thing, wtf are they thinking LOL
only thing i got from them they want money
covert remnant
Well I'm just chilling with my event gems on alts for a long time
torn ether
and by making ppl buy more gems
fossil solar
so if i play 2 paladins in my roster does this change affect me at all or?
torn ether
they make more money