lost-ark-discussions

[fresh flint]

i had it split for some reason

[devout nymph]

no cleave

[nimble wolf]

no need for illicit tho

cuz i play mp eff

[fresh flint]

but i have 1 node from 2nd row to open up 4th row node

[nimble wolf]

xdding

[nimble wolf]

show chara

[devout nymph]

better to run the 1% better engraving and run illict i believe at that ilvl

[nimble wolf]

hrm eye see

[fresh flint]

https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/character/NAE/Mehaveumbrella

[devout nymph]

ofc if you have relic mpeff then go ahead

[fresh flint]

holy shit

the preview is slick

[nimble wolf]

fix this first

[devout nymph]

[wintry depot]

i liked the pink theme better

[nimble wolf]

[fresh flint]

DONT LOOK AT IT

LOL

she was just a slave alt at one point

[devout nymph]

no he need to fix his ark passive first

[fresh flint]

im fixing her up

[devout nymph]

30 swiftness super sonic

[nimble wolf]

xdddd

[fresh flint]

yeah thats what the guide says

bc im running hm

[nimble wolf]

thats

not yet

[devout nymph]

man didnt read the smallprint

[wintry depot]

run standing striker till the supersonic change

[devout nymph]

says you dont touch it until balance patch hits

[fresh flint]

dude theres a lot of text to read

and its confusing asf

ok standing stroker

[devout nymph]

blame com guide for releasing builds early

[fresh flint]

well yeah that makes no sense

[wintry depot]

well its in a week

not that bad

[fresh flint]

just leave it til balance drops

[devout nymph]

been there since announcement i believe, so about 1month already

[wintry depot]

yeh prob

[devout nymph]

anyways

you dont run 30 swift

[nimble wolf]

[fresh flint]

why not

[devout nymph]

theres like 3 classes that run 30 swift

all others mash crit and swift

[fresh flint]

ok what to change to

[nimble wolf]

not very efficient considering u have unlimited magick

[devout nymph]

16crit/24swift i believe

[nimble wolf]

to this but take off keen2 and run illicit 2

altho ive been using stab stat on her and havent gone oom

[wintry depot]

i would guess it depends of your support

[devout nymph]

you mean

no support

coz we matchmake at that ilvl

[nimble wolf]

i dont mm

[devout nymph]

i solo veskal so tehres that

mroe money anyways

[fresh flint]

Ok so go 16crit 24 swift, illicit 2

[nimble wolf]

ye

[devout nymph]

get additional damage pants whenever you ahve the option

[fresh flint]

i can shortly

im ab to help someone do kaya

[nimble wolf]

cut critical too master sux

[fresh flint]

i would like to

i already did helmet

need gloves

[devout nymph]

did com guide recommend down/spread gem

[mortal burrow]

yes

If you get sunshower dmg gem,

you can choose between spread or down

I'm guessing you could do whirlpool but I don't think it's too important 🤔

And it might allow you to recover if your builder skills get canceled or something 🤷

[fresh flint]

the change to my spread is ass

the animation is fucked now

[nimble wolf]

nono keep spread at 10

just change downward

to 7

spread 10 is giga nice

[fresh flint]

yeah it made it smoothe

this lvl 7 dookie is ass

[mortal burrow]

which one

[fresh flint]

spread

[mortal burrow]

I love the spread that turns it into a huge aoe

I kinda dont like the 2 hit one

[nimble wolf]

they both 2 hits

[fresh flint]

yeah 2 hit makes it feel like im using EW shotgun skill

but its noticable

[mortal burrow]

are they?

I thought the huge aoe one is just 1 hit

[nimble wolf]

yea both lvl 10 and 7 have double hit

[mortal burrow]

nono

i mean the other level 10 tripod

it comes a huge cone counter

[nimble wolf]

ya

that has it

[mortal burrow]

this one?

[nimble wolf]

it hits once

then sucks

[mortal burrow]

no

i mean the other level 10 tripod

the one that is only 1 hit

[nimble wolf]

oh

i gyat to check this out

[mortal burrow]

the counter is like this big

[nimble wolf]

oh shit

lmfao

[mortal burrow]

better picture

[fresh flint]

ok it still feels ass

help

[nimble wolf]

why ur animation transparrency so low

[mortal burrow]

the animation is fast

and i cant ss in time

[fresh flint]

OH GOD 2ND NODE IS EVEN WORSE

[nimble wolf]

i run this one

[mortal burrow]

but the impact ground is kidn of an idea

[devout nymph]

just do a video, tehn screenshot the frame in the video

[nimble wolf]

ya clip

ima try it in dragon

rn

[mortal burrow]

i dont like the 1st node b/c I dash to up close

[devout nymph]

i actually run 121 because of solo

[mortal burrow]

but teh 2nd node allows me to stay back a little

[devout nymph]

you aint ms capped without yearning

[nimble wolf]

ok ngl it feels like shit

im used to the forced movement now from spread

[mortal burrow]

the problem tho is

in echidna mirror counter mech

you might hit 3 mirrors 💀

[devout nymph]

doesnt matter no

since it hits all at the same time

liek executioner on pala

[fresh flint]

the loss of swift is so noticable

[mortal burrow]

the problem is if you counter a little late and someone counters right as you press it , you get stunned...

unless if you hit the correct mirror in the next row

[fresh flint]

i feel like a slow fucking potato now

[devout nymph]

sounds like every class that switches off their chaos dungeon build

[nimble wolf]

ok

opinion changed

its nice af

i use this from now

[fresh flint]

wiping wind is sooooo

its ruining the smooth feeling

[nimble wolf]

youll get used to it

dw

its nicer than ww u can cast from far

[nimble wolf]

u should be capped with feast

susge

[fresh flint]

who uses feast to do argeos

[nimble wolf]

oh

not me either

[fresh flint]

(me)

[nimble wolf]

im just sayingin general

[fresh flint]

(i do)

[nimble wolf]

but ur cds will be lower

man Wat da shit i should have used this spread tripod in t3

when i played dominion wf

that shit was true zoomies

[devout nymph]

now i just need to wait for that island to appear

[fresh flint]

isn t there a quick cast for wind

i didnt select tripods

thats why it feels ass

jesus christ

[devout nymph]

[fresh flint]

im telling u todays a whole struggle

[nimble wolf]

wind?

oh

LMAO

[fresh flint]

dude

istg

i got my critical tho

ima try for add dmg panties

[nimble wolf]

u dont rly neeeed them

[fresh flint]

meter is being dumb afd

[mortal burrow]

use what o-o

[fresh flint]

i was 100m but BOZOS ALWAYS GET HIT

[devout nymph]

i sthat triple critsyn

[fresh flint]

lmao yeah

xD

[devout nymph]

[fresh flint]

I just applied to a random server

Room*

But it makes sense I didn’t see any white

[thorny olive]

@slender sky

today for some reason my elixir rng isn't shit

[fresh flint]

My mains rng for elixirs was spot on

But my alts are suffering

[nimble wolf]

same

[devout nymph]

holding for fempala, hope can get teh same elixirs my main got

[nimble wolf]

the aoe tripod u showed

its like 2x faster

so nice to fit everything in

[nimble wolf]

[fresh flint]

It’s not good enough

[nimble wolf]

youll reach 120 soon

dw

[fresh flint]

I need to work on my combos I keep double casting builders by accident

[devout nymph]

one day destiny leapstones gonna be worth

[fresh flint]

The aero qol coming next week is HUGE

[devout nymph]

is it? thoguht both had their hitlag

[nimble wolf]

nooo it 100% feels faster

its faster than downward xd

the other one is slower

[thorny olive]

giga atk power

[nimble wolf]

[fresh flint]

Wait which tripod

2nd on last row?

[nimble wolf]

2nd on 3rd row

ye

[fresh flint]

Gonna try it

It is a bit more ranged too

[nimble wolf]

try it in guardian

its same range roughly cause the other has a dash

so ur pos doesnt really change much

[uncut dirge]

time to do a brel

i'm sure nothing bad will happen doin git on the last day

in the evening

gonna be absolute gigachads

[devout nymph]

ppl have patience at least on last day

not insta vote abandoan after a 1min pull

[wintry depot]

its the opposite for me

[nimble wolf]

i only meet ethical gamers on tuesday

frfr

[wintry depot]

i have way less patience on last day

[nimble wolf]

same

[devout nymph]

its not that you have less patience on last day

its more like the more annoying ppl dont raid on last day lmao

[thorny olive]

they also need to make sure they clear

[devout nymph]

free cardpack on the last memory orb

[storm bronze]

[uncut dirge]

lmao we wiped in G1

spinners

spinners stacked up such everyone except supports got 100 to 0d

supps lived with 10% hp lmao

[devout nymph]

not sure how i feel about this mount

pretty mid i guess

[storm bronze]

[mellow zenith]

haven't played in a while, may i ask a question? are bussing services still a thing in lost ark ?

[thorny olive]

@wintry depot

[storm bronze]

[fresh flint]

I actually kinda like it. It reminds me of the music box aesthetic

[wintry depot]

yes buss still exists but its the advertising in the party finder is bannable

[thorny olive]

[stark sky]

https://i.imgur.com/JtbB1bP.jpeg

what would u guys pick

[mellow zenith]

oh so there's like some discord for it or smth like that ye? hmm okay thank you ma'am

[thorny olive]

not consuming attempt

just me tho

maybe im dum

[storm bronze]

grandma cuz she hot

[wintry depot]

yes

[devout nymph]

left or right, mid is trap

[mellow zenith]

thank you too \o

[worldly hawk]

left 100%

no attempt is so strong with new elixirs

[thorny olive]

ya arna is good to talk to

[worldly hawk]

@stark sky if you wanna gamba take right otherwise pick left mid is a trap

[devout nymph]

left is 35% to hit, 65% to not hit, right is assuming propotional chances to be 25% to do nothing, 75% to do something

[stark sky]

it missed

[thorny olive]

my condolences

[fresh flint]

@worldly hawk @slender sky

[worldly hawk]

arna is one of the nicer persons i know on this discord but she can also be mean

[thorny olive]

well, rightfully so

[wintry depot]

its a pretty good description

[worldly hawk]

it should be illegal to be this cute

[storm bronze]

that cat ain't looking so sad today. You stop beating him

[wintry depot]

i can be nice but super toxic aswell

[fresh flint]

I know. That’s fucking bietch

[wintry depot]

awwwww

what was that position tho

[fresh flint]

I don’t beat him wtf

[worldly hawk]

don't question it he's comfy

[fresh flint]

Idk he woke up and fell back to sleep lmao

[thorny olive]

practicing posing or just cat things

[fresh flint]

He so sleepy today

:3

[storm bronze]

i mean don't cat sleep like 18h a day

[wintry depot]

my cat is walking around me

[storm bronze]

like arna

[wintry depot]

and everytime i try to pet her, she meow super loud

and leaves

but comes back 30secs later

shes fucking dumb

[fresh flint]

Not kittens. They can wake up and be super active but they will sleep right after. And repeat that all day.

[wintry depot]

my smoll cat probably sleep 20hrs a day

the fat one prob 18

[worldly hawk]

reminds me of that short i saw with that kitten that jst had energy for 2 meows

[cedar blaze]

no patch note again?

[storm bronze]

there was one guy that was painting cats in the army. weird mf

[worldly hawk]

for what exactly?

nothings happening this week

[wintry depot]

no because patch is on 23

[devout nymph]

25% is what i hit on stone cutting

[storm bronze]

where patch notes btw

[thorny olive]

damn you and your random bullshit on elixirs

[devout nymph]

wdym

take right, max it, then farm for the swap node

[storm bronze]

why you still do elixir when you have like 8x1690

[thorny olive]

because rat elixirs

[storm bronze]

[thorny olive]

i wanna improve this garbage

[devout nymph]

what do you consider rat elixirs

[worldly hawk]

[storm bronze]

i have 99 rats but beach ain't one

[thorny olive]

stuff with useless lines, i wanna fix the chest so i have an easier time fixing this

[storm bronze]

you should see rats in Paris. They could take any of your damn cats 1v1

[wintry depot]

xdd

[thorny olive]

yeah :(

those kind of elixirs

sadly those are hard to fix

[devout nymph]

stagger hp is not too bad for sup

[wintry depot]

im way too lazy to fix my elixirs

[thorny olive]

no hp is goox

good

escape expert could be changed to something decent

but i mean

5 5

hard to fix

[devout nymph]

i dont even care that much on my alt supps

[thorny olive]

thats why i wanna fix my chest so i can maybe have a 5 3 glove instead

[wintry depot]

oh its just on main

[devout nymph]

only main sup needs to be good

[wintry depot]

alts can fuck themselves

[storm bronze]

escape expert that's what i do with my responsabilities

[worldly hawk]

@fresh flint https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fmwM8WDN2Ig

[devout nymph]

on main still scuffed? rip

[wintry depot]

i have that also

yeah never bothered changing them

hate doing elixirs

[thorny olive]

well, damn

nothing i want

xDDD

atk power useless on sup

[storm bronze]

elixirs are fun because it takes skill

[worldly hawk]

is the suspicious map from the traveling merchant like rare or something

i haven't seen it in 1 1/2 weeks

[thorny olive]

and uh

the max hp is higher

why is my main cursed

WHAT IS THIS

[storm bronze]

[thorny olive]

@stark sky left one is higher chances right

for at least a point

[worldly hawk]

yeah

[thorny olive]

giga it hit 3

[worldly hawk]

[thorny olive]

lmfao

what a waste

[stark sky]

yea

[dapper plank]

hey guys, do you know if I can create a raid group in this discord for learning parties?

[fresh flint]

[wintry depot]

yes

you can

[thorny olive]

smol upgrade.. not exactly what i wanted

[worldly hawk]

#1051258008853807174

[worldly hawk]

bro the last kitten is also so cute

just 2 meows and then back to sleep

[thorny olive]

[thorny olive]

[worldly hawk]

do i do my dailies today or procrastinate until Thursday

[fresh flint]

Do dailies

[worldly hawk]

[fresh flint]

I’m waiting for my food

[thorny olive]

LETS GO

[fresh flint]

And then I have to take care of kitty when I get back

[thorny olive]

if only i can hit chest now

[worldly hawk]

you better

[thorny olive]

[fresh flint]

I take care of cat all day

[thorny olive]

oh yes

[storm bronze]

Ordered that crawfish and catfish

[thorny olive]

NOOO

[worldly hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-spongebob-plankton-gif-10466614

[thorny olive]

u asshole elixir

[worldly hawk]

[thorny olive]

life is haaaard

[devout nymph]

just highroll harder

[slender sky]

[devout nymph]

those are what i ahve on my main

[slender sky]

thats gonna hurt in the morning

[nimble wolf]

[devout nymph]

i secretely enjoy elixir cutting, even the old one

i had a 2 purple 40 set back in the days

just hit +4 twice, then play safe

[fresh flint]

[nimble wolf]

new aero next week with 19 swift gonna feel like hot poop

might drop it

long ass cds

[thorny olive]

ah, there we go

[devout nymph]

[worldly hawk]

[thorny olive]

:D

[devout nymph]

[thorny olive]

[worldly hawk]

[devout nymph]

only one way to find out

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[worldly hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[devout nymph]

[worldly hawk]

[devout nymph]

tough decisions

probably far ahead enough to play safe

[worldly hawk]

true

[thorny olive]

hot

[fresh flint]

i love those nodes

[worldly hawk]

||can't stop winning ||

[fresh flint]

i never hit them but theyrefun to click

xD

[worldly hawk]

same especially at the start

[sudden tartan]

Is weapon power or intelligence better?

[wintry depot]

cut mines

[worldly hawk]

[wintry depot]

my bf doesnt want to do them for me

im sad

[worldly hawk]

[devout nymph]

[worldly hawk]

right

wait no left

i'm dumb

right is 33% for 2 levels

[stark sky]

if you're talking about in the context of elixirs, intelligence is almost always better

[fresh flint]

@wintry depot im getting better XD

[worldly hawk]

the difference is negliable no?

[stark sky]

no

[worldly hawk]

wasn't it like 0.1 something something %

i forgor

[wintry depot]

XD

[stark sky]

people pay more for less

[wintry depot]

i have only one good

[fresh flint]

can t believe for once i have 100% buff dmg

[devout nymph]

[worldly hawk]

[wintry depot]

reflux?

[fresh flint]

artist lol

[wintry depot]

oh

XDD

[worldly hawk]

[wintry depot]

i thought u meant youre the sorc XD

[fresh flint]

no LMAO

[sudden tartan]

Wdym almost always? And yeah elixirs

[worldly hawk]

@fresh flint do my dailies for me, i cba

[fresh flint]

split mats 50/50

[stark sky]

if you're asking about the times when weapon power would be better than main stat, its very rare but it would depend on your stat distribution

if you have a very weird weapon to main stat ratio

[wintry depot]

on support whats better

[stark sky]

it doesnt change between support and dps

you just take off ap

[worldly hawk]

[stark sky]

cause it doesnt affect buffs

[sudden tartan]

No, one is clearly better then the other, I just don't remember which it was

[worldly hawk]

ok i'll do them myself

[wintry depot]

idk im too stupid to maths

do it for me

whats better

[stark sky]

and i just told you which one it was

?

[worldly hawk]

iirc it was negligible difference in strengh gain

[devout nymph]

if you didnt overhone your weapon, wp is generally better no

[stark sky]

no

[devout nymph]

for sups in specific

[stark sky]

it doesnt change between support and dps

they use the same formula

[sudden tartan]

No you said "almost always" and then "depends on distribution" so you don't know how it works

[stark sky]

are you stupid

[wintry depot]

i am

[worldly hawk]

yes

i looked it up

it's 0.03% difference

[stark sky]

the no wasnt to you

[worldly hawk]

[stark sky]

it was to the "wp is generally better" statement

the difference is very small but again, people pay more for less

[devout nymph]

the consensus back in the days was wp>int for sups on elixir cutting, but i havent checked stat spreads since voldis release

prob less now due scaling

[worldly hawk]

atk 5 is better almost always for dps but it's such a negligable difference that it doesn't matter

[fresh flint]

Weekly reminder: Get your 3 continent plumpcrab gem chests

[stark sky]

u do realize people are paying 1m right now for 1%

dmg boost

getting 5x ap over 5x weapon power is 1%

for virtually no gold

[worldly hawk]

well, yes but you have to cut that elixir first

i would just use either or whichever gets cut first

[stark sky]

elixirs are the cheapest thing to optimize most people havent

[worldly hawk]

caus elixirs suck to cut

[stark sky]

yeah but thats beside the point

[worldly hawk]

even with the improved system

[stark sky]

int

they use the same formula

they both end at ap

[wintry depot]

ok

ty

[stark sky]

the answer wouldnt change between support and dps unless one has more of one stat than the other (they dont)

[devout nymph]

inbefore one has +25 weapon +16 armor

[stark sky]

that would make int even better

it would be like

the other way around for wp to be better

hence "very rare" scenario i mentioned previously

[devout nymph]

i dont think thats an icnrease is it

[stark sky]

uhhh

could be

dont know what lvl 4 boss gives

[devout nymph]

1.8 vs 2.4

[stark sky]

it probably is a damage increase then

[worldly hawk]

that's an increase yeah

[stark sky]

you should consult a calculator

answer could change depending on your stats

[devout nymph]

im nto sure anymore coz when i look up bracelet

[stark sky]

bracelet has different values than elixirs

[devout nymph]

it says 10/13/16k is 1.14%, 1.48%, 1.82% respectively

and elixir lvl5 is 5400 mainstat

bracelet says its using a 1700 char as baseline

[burnt tree]

5 dex/4 bd is definitely an increase over 5 boss 4 blessing 💀

[empty sleet]

skull emoji

[worldly hawk]

yeah it is, but not much

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/south-korea-squid-game-beautiful-girl-gif-2601954743389461400

dont see a reason not to take it either way

[worldly hawk]

[stark sky]

are you comparing the weapon power vs main stat lines here?

its different than elixirs

the ratio you get on bracelets is very very different than the ratio you get on elixirs

its not that weapon power is worse than intelligence as a stat

its the amount you're getting

for elixirs you're getting 236/488/740/1110/1480 WP vs 720/1782/2700/4050/5400 main stat

you're getting like almost 3-4x main stat to wp

[devout nymph]

nah im comparing 5400 mainstat to 0.6% bossdmg

[stark sky]

ah

[devout nymph]

chatgpt would give me 0.62% using interpolation

[thorny olive]

lvl 1 int < lvl 2 wpn
lvl 2 int > lvl 2 wpn

[stark sky]

yeah the dex would be better then if the 0.62% were accurate

its pretty easy to calculate though

you can just equip and unequip the elixir

[thorny olive]

its what I did xD

was comparing if my lvl 1 int was better than my lvl 2 wpn and it was worse

[stark sky]

and if the difference is bigger than 0.59%

then its better

[devout nymph]

i doubt it would beat a 5boss 2 mainstat one

which is very easy to get

[thorny olive]

I just put it in a spare slot when I wanna compare

[stark sky]

uhh

it probably wouldn't beat a 5boss 2 main stat no

[devout nymph]

huh why would be 2.4% & 1700mainstat not beat 1.8% & 5400 mainstat?

[steady crater]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[stark sky]

it wouldn't beat a 5boss 2 mainstat meaning that the 5/2 would be better than the 4/5

[devout nymph]

yeah i misunderstood but we're on the same line

[thorny olive]

boss > stat

[devout nymph]

well i only cut with free elixirs

and its the 6th char on my altroster so...

no upgrades in a while

[thorny olive]

you can exchange gold elixirs for behemoth scales if you don't mind using a little bit of gold

at least u save on the crafting cost

[devout nymph]

nah my altroster needs all the gold it can get

getting full 7s been already a major hassle

its not like its too bad

its jsut not great

well time to close the game and activiate my stable diffusion, wanna see what it creates from my yday session of hyper awakening screenies

in particular this one

[queen grail]

@burnt tree @wicked blade @neon cedar @wintry depot @thorny olive Anyone of you need a 🐀 Trash char for 🐉 ?

[wicked blade]

Yes

Let me finish skolakia

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/chop-chop-hurry-up-come-along-now-haste-karl-urban-gif-15594356

[wintry depot]

no

[queen grail]

How slow is your 🦂 kill? @wicked blade

[wicked blade]

We have no supp

[queen grail]

Why did you go in with no sup?

[wicked blade]

Done

[queen grail]

Char's name you're going on?

[wicked blade]

Evoman

Switching

[queen grail]

I should have started doing my 🐉 earlier, but oh well

@wicked blade Sonic is leader.

[wicked blade]

I mean

There is only 2 parties

LMAO

[burnt tree]

nahh

cba with tuesday raiding

[wicked blade]

I applied

[burnt tree]

gonna chill outside of lost ark

[queen grail]

@wicked blade sec.

[wicked blade]

Mf declined me

Wdym lucky

[queen grail]

Idiot didn't say anything or communicate so I left.

[wicked blade]

@queen grail LOL

[queen grail]

His group imploded as I left.

Awkward.

I didn't really mean for that but they were mad.

[wicked blade]

[queen grail]

Well, I'm making more run's after anyways.

[wicked blade]

He just... died

[queen grail]

I mean, have you seen the grp?

We are almost all 1680-1700+

[wicked blade]

Yeah

[queen grail]

[wicked blade]

[queen grail]

Ye, goodluck if you're going for it, I left

You got more? @wicked blade

[wicked blade]

Noup

@queen grailJust bid 10k for it

For the sport of it

[queen grail]

Goodluck

[wicked blade]

[queen grail]

10k aint too bad

[wicked blade]

Yeah

[thorny olive]

[thorny olive]

The guy who said they bad

You silly

Well, I guess you didn't say bad, you just thought others were better

[wicked blade]

Well others are better?

Except aegir one

[thorny olive]

[wicked blade]

That one is dogshit

[thorny olive]

[wicked blade]

I have solo Echidna and Thameine

Fook

[thorny olive]

Quick in and out

[wicked blade]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-michael-scott-thats-what-she-said-gif-20446601

[junior fern]

Will Abidos drop or raise after AH nerfs? Any educated guesses?

[worldly hawk]

drop

[wicked blade]

Raise

[worldly hawk]

it's very simple supply-demand

[wicked blade]

Because everyone will AH

[worldly hawk]

we need less = prices will drop

[wicked blade]

He is dumb, don't mind him

[junior fern]

Long term yeah, but I mean like the week of

[queen grail]

Is that a yes/no?

[wicked blade]

When AH nerf drops everyone will AH

So prices will raise temop

[thorny olive]

Sowwi, I closed my game, am resting guardian

[worldly hawk]

week of probably rise a little or maybe stay where they are

[junior fern]

Trying to decide if I should sell my Abidos now or later essentially

[thorny olive]

@uncut dirge predicts they will keep rising

[wicked blade]

Prices will drop after some time

[thorny olive]

Math + trade skills + demand vs supply

[wicked blade]

But first month it will be on rise

Because everyone and their mom will AH

[queen grail]

np np also it was for Behemoth not Guardian

[thorny olive]

Well, the whales probably stocked up on fusion

[junior fern]

So sell when patch drops ig

[thorny olive]

Ohhh

[wicked blade]

Dw Kat, we love u

[thorny olive]

Behemoth is a big puppy, aregos is a smaller puppy

[wicked blade]

Even tho u are sometimes dumdum

[thorny olive]

Well dragon is a dragon!

[uncut dirge]

i think selling a little before patch drops is better

[queen grail]

?dog

[tawny gate]

Found one!

🐶 Woof!

[thorny olive]

That's a sheep

[junior fern]

is it worth buying at 88-90 now? Think it'll hit 100 after patch drops?

[uncut dirge]

oh idk if it'll go up that much

[junior fern]

I see

[uncut dirge]

something to keep in mind is that we might get flooded by bots at any time

and then prices will not go up

[junior fern]

So not enough change to worth speculating market

[uncut dirge]

also they're already 104 on euc

[junior fern]

i see

[thorny olive]

A lot of people has had a lot of time to hoard fusion, but there might be a spike since there's those lazy people who buy as they hone

[wicked blade]

I'm not lazy, f u

[thorny olive]

But after that, who knows, normal honing still cost a lot

[thorny olive]

Sorry, "time efficient" people

[wicked blade]

Thank u

[thorny olive]

[junior fern]

Well took me 450k to go from 1660 to 1670 so amend to normal honing costing a lot

[wicked blade]

Try 1680-1685 KEKW

I wanna cry

[junior fern]

and thats with like 80% of the mats being bound

[wicked blade]

@thorny olive

🐀

[thorny olive]

[wicked blade]

Do I really care about 18k solo gold hmm

[wind dagger]

No

[thorny olive]

Well, do the echidna, it's fast

[wicked blade]

Ye, I don't

[thorny olive]

XD

[wicked blade]

Oh wow

18k gold gets me whole 5 weapon taps

Thanks game, I will skip

[thorny olive]

[wicked blade]

https://tenor.com/view/boonifa-whatdidido-what-madtv-gif-5323799

[slender sky]

will raise a little, not by a lot tho, we had enough time to prepare. will drop quite a bit after like 2weeks-ish after initial demand dies down, is what im guessing

@fresh flint ping

[queen grail]

Huh, another one @wicked blade

[wicked blade]

Money

[queen grail]

Was only sold for like 9,4

[wicked blade]

Wdym only

[queen grail]

give moar.

[civic creek]

guys weekly patch when?

[wintry depot]

23rd

[queen grail]

[civic creek]

thanks

[fresh flint]

thats hot

[tranquil shore]

what skin are the pants?

[wintry depot]

bard legendary pants

s2 iirc

[slender sky]

that jump took me back to narnia

[tulip charm]

They are cooking in ai gallery channel

[burnt tree]

no they arent

its ai

bruh

[wintry depot]

[burnt tree]

[wintry depot]

arnaaaaaa wants to get honed

[worldly hawk]

then press buttonnn

[wintry depot]

waiting for ah

[high fog]

Rich get richer

[uncut dirge]

everyone can hone after nerfs

[high fog]

When my turn for moneys

[uncut dirge]

it takes real skill and courage to hone before them

[wintry depot]

no thats being stupid

[worldly hawk]

that's just called beeing stupid

[high fog]

Someone mail me 8k oreha

Thanks

[worldly hawk]

if you pay me market price sure

[tranquil shore]

Can you share the dye pattern with me for the pants

[high fog]

Will pay market price from 3 month after aegir release

[worldly hawk]

no i meant current market price

[high fog]

Nah I like the market price then more

Let’s go with that instead

[worldly hawk]

too bad, so sad

[wintry depot]

its the first time i ever got that much gold on me tbh

[uncut dirge]

i can mail you 8k fusions

[high fog]

Holy this green name has money

[uncut dirge]

you dont have to pay market price

[wintry depot]

i need to resist the temptation

[uncut dirge]

just pay me ||104g each||

[high fog]

Buy skins angle

Tap wep for glow

Click karma

[wintry depot]

artist glow sucks

[high fog]

Uhh

High/high rings

[wintry depot]

i have mid mid

not even high mid

XDD

[worldly hawk]

i don't even know if it's worth for me to hone to 1680 right away

caus of ancient acc

or if imma buy them piece by piece

[uncut dirge]

can you even buy a high-low ring for that money

[wintry depot]

on support yes

[high fog]

You can buy high mid support ring

High high I think was going for 600-700k

[wintry depot]

relic high mid was like 150k

last time i checked

ancient high mid 200k soemthing

[uncut dirge]

i need to start doing more cubes

i have 24 1680 tickets

on one char

and i do one a week

wtf is this

[worldly hawk]

same tbh i have like 70 cubes total

[worldly hawk]

[uncut dirge]

yeah

see

[wintry depot]

high high for 500k is pretty good

but nah

[uncut dirge]

it's relic

[high fog]

Relic is fine for sup

[wintry depot]

supports have shitty ark passive

XD

u dont need ancient

[uncut dirge]

i know but think about which one retains value

in the long-term

[high fog]

I only have ancients cuz I cut my own

[wintry depot]

relic doesnt lose value

from ancient

same stats

its just mroe enlight points

and yeah i said ark passive is dog

(i have karma because i was at 1670)

[high fog]

I needa finish 98 on my bard

So I can get the side node for dps purposes

[wintry depot]

yeah on my bard i have full ancient

[uncut dirge]

why not the Z shield

[wintry depot]

i can switch points

its not really worth

it was nice on brel prog week 1

but now

meh

this one is fire tho

more mp

xd

[midnight marlin]

i need that node to be like

max 10

instead of 5

[uncut dirge]

man

[wintry depot]

i dont have mana issues anymore with it

[uncut dirge]

im sitting on over 10k abidos

[wintry depot]

personally

[uncut dirge]

i should sell some of it

[wintry depot]

but i have also relic max mp books

and dont play shit furnace

[uncut dirge]

idk if standing striker really is that much worse

[wintry depot]

its better

[high fog]

It’s worse

[wintry depot]

if you dont get pushed around all the time

[high fog]

But not by too much

[wintry depot]

both are 20%

[high fog]

Like the ceiling of ss is the floor of mpf, but the expected outcome of ss is not much worse

[thorny olive]

It's same brand power but ss loses efficiency each time you get nudged

[wintry depot]

and even if you lose stack for 3 sec, its so easy to get back

brand power is a shit stat

[high fog]

Yea but u lost a bit of brand power during that time

[wintry depot]

6% of brand power is like 0.4% dmg

[uncut dirge]

imagine artist

[wintry depot]

its not worth to lose your mind and needing to use mp food all the time

[uncut dirge]

maxed Z shield

shield on the circle attack power buff too

[wintry depot]

thats trolling

everyone needs mana

[uncut dirge]

no tiger, instead you have the ink spill that shields too

i don't think that's true

[worldly hawk]

my slayer needs mana

don't do that

[wintry depot]

it is true

[high fog]

I don’t usually go oom with mpf outside of like

[uncut dirge]

and it gives mana

just not as much

[wintry depot]

80% of classes goes oom

not as much?

[uncut dirge]

80% classes should play BT

[thorny olive]

+8% brand power neck and +6% karma is ~1% party damage increase, it's not bad, it just doesn't feel like much

[worldly hawk]

no?

[wintry depot]

you know that its not only mp furnace that makes classes goes oom right ?

[uncut dirge]

sure

arcana runs out ofm ana regardless, that's true

and PS SH

[wintry depot]

i wasnt talking about karma

iw as taking if you lose 2 or 4% brand power from the standing striker

its barely dmg

arcana doesnt even run oom

[uncut dirge]

dont your auto attacks restore mana

[wintry depot]

xD

[worldly hawk]

most classes play SSB or MP furnace

yes they do

[nimble wolf]

just play ss and do 0s incap challenge

[worldly hawk]

but it's just not enogh

[thorny olive]

[nimble wolf]

easy

THAT easy

fr

[worldly hawk]

i go oom in 2 rotations if my support doesn't press her buttons

even with mana food

[wintry depot]

like continue to play mp furnace if you like eating mp food

i dont

[thorny olive]

Well, luckily SS has a floor or it would be shit, since you can only loose half of the power

[nimble wolf]

i fixed my db mana issues

[slender sky]

im manifesting brand power 8%

[nimble wolf]

unstoppable now even by loser support

[nimble wolf]

[worldly hawk]

we praying

[thorny olive]

Cmon cmon cmon

[slender sky]

anlaki

[thorny olive]

fml

[wintry depot]

if you got 4% it wouldve been good

unlucky

[worldly hawk]

hey but still brand power

[thorny olive]

Yeah but fk knows who'd buy that

[slender sky]

[thorny olive]

Well mid is fine

[wintry depot]

high high would be better

[thorny olive]

[wintry depot]

but eh

[thorny olive]

Yeah, I have high brand mid meter grn

It's what it is

[slender sky]

how much wouldve 3x high been?

[wintry depot]

i had that too before

[uncut dirge]

really, huh

[thorny olive]

1-2m

[uncut dirge]

well, the classes that matter largely don't

[slender sky]

[uncut dirge]

SE runs BT, wildsoul runs BT

[thorny olive]

Well, I'd say 1m+ because flat wpn power lines are actually bad sadly

[uncut dirge]

huh the only other class out of those 2 that i play is sorc and artist

lmao

well i play others but not in T4

[thorny olive]

But it's still a good extra, easily over 1m

[uncut dirge]

they don't work on supports?

i thought they did

[thorny olive]

It works, it just gives very little in comparison to wpn %

[wintry depot]

i mean if you play bt on se...

youre a bit dumb ngl

[thorny olive]

BT

[high fog]

Arcana runs oom all the time unfort

[wintry depot]

idk never had an arcana complain

tho db

is another story

[slender sky]

that wouldve paid for my AH expenses

[high fog]

It’s because we have learned to accept the pain after so long

[thorny olive]

Flat lines on accessories are sadly troll by SG because the wpn % or atk power % (DPS only) are so much higher, iirc low % > flat line

[high fog]

Even with mana food tho, on like super high uptime fights

You kinda just run out of mana every so often

[worldly hawk]

DB isn't even that bad as slayer

if your support sucks you will notice right away

[high fog]

Db is way worse than slayer

[thorny olive]

Yus 😭

[worldly hawk]

nah i play both, slayer is way worse

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-so-sad-gif-25352430

[wintry depot]

its not even about support sucking

[high fog]

I play both db is way worse

[wintry depot]

db runs oom even with fucking mana food

XDDD

[worldly hawk]

me when i don't have cinder pics

[uncut dirge]

why?

it's more damage

[high fog]

If you start throwing in ec and extra spincutter casts

It’s cursed

[wintry depot]

only if you crit

and your crit is lower with bt

[thorny olive]

If you're running reckless attack, good luck xdddd

[uncut dirge]

on average it's more damage

[high fog]

Slayer kinda just vibes unless the support is giga bad

[uncut dirge]

well, it's not necessarily a lot of more damage

[thorny olive]

+20% mana consumption node on Slayer = doomed if your sup sucks

[uncut dirge]

because you do lose the 7% CDR that you had without going BT

[high fog]

U need mana food or a summoner if u run that node

[uncut dirge]

but typically cdr doesn't improve damage as much

[high fog]

But like having either fixes the problem anyways