lost-ark-discussions

[uncut dirge]

"it won't make the company any money" "and it will upset the existing customers"

[wicked blade]

Anyone who is defending AGS incompetence is just loa shill or has cost sunk fallacy

[burnt tree]

loa is a good game, ags and sg are bad at managing it the way it deserves

NCsoft deja vu

[wicked blade]

LOA will never reach its full potential because of SG

Too greedy to actually care

Game is quite literally money mule for them

[burnt tree]

they never do anything new either

oh look a new raid boissss

wooooooo

yeah boiiiiii more gatekeep simulator

[torn ether]

i wish they brought back tower with actually good content in it

[wicked blade]

Petition for Tencent to buy Smilegate and give development to Kuro games

[torn ether]

acutal challange kinda thing

[burnt tree]

its too early for a tower

in t4

id rather its added abit later with more/better drops

cause if its added now it will be stingy

[burnt tree]

oh boi

[torn ether]

i mean by changing the system lil bit

[burnt tree]

give me a Zani in Lost Ark

[torn ether]

not some throw away content for mats

[burnt tree]

take my money Kurogate

[torn ether]

an actual challange with rewards

[burnt tree]

i wouldnt mind a challenging tower climber solo content

[wicked blade]

Real

[burnt tree]

and not the crap like tier 1-3 towers

[wicked blade]

Imagine how cool classes we would get

And how not p2w it would be

[burnt tree]

it would be p2w

mmos are expensive as fk to maintain

[wicked blade]

Not that p2w tho

[burnt tree]

Kuro is also not as generous as they are on PGR with WuWa cause its also more expensive

[uncut dirge]

well speaking of that in terms of lost ark

[burnt tree]

even if we got a free 5* already[whose pretty good on top]

[uncut dirge]

part of making lost ark a better long-term title would be to make early game much harder

[wicked blade]

I mean I don't mind
Did u look at those anime top tier quallity animations and cinematics

[uncut dirge]

like the campaigns an stuff

[burnt tree]

yeah yeah ik

[wicked blade]

It is beating whatever Hoyo put by a mile

[uncut dirge]

the difficulty jump from campaign to guardians is huge

[burnt tree]

ppl even said theyd pay full price for wuwa if it was single player

[uncut dirge]

and from guardians to raids is even bigger

so if somebody joins the game and likes the easy campaign they end up disappointed at end game

[wicked blade]

I mean it feels like game first gatcha second

2.2 was peak

[burnt tree]

the difficulty is too inconsistent its not even about early game

[uncut dirge]

and if somebody joins for the difficult content they will first have to dolike 30 hours of trivial and boring gameplay

[queen grail]

If you guys want top tier cinematics, why don't you play, a cinematic game.

[burnt tree]

how you go from aegir to brel was nuts

[queen grail]

[uncut dirge]

no, aegir to brel is irrelevant

[burnt tree]

lost ark is cinematic

ppl just dont care about the story enough

[uncut dirge]

those are all in the same ballpark of difficulty compared to campaign to raids

[queen grail]

ESC ESC ESC ESC ESC

[burnt tree]

raid areas and enviroments re insane

[queen grail]

[wicked blade]

I never cared about LOA story

Too generic for me

[uncut dirge]

i think it would be hard to care about loa's story

[burnt tree]

shore

[queen grail]

You're generic

[uncut dirge]

because of the way it's told

you're reading a worse version of a book

[burnt tree]

well they admitted they ruined the beggining of it

[uncut dirge]

since the story is just exposition dumped onto you

[wicked blade]

And u are LOA shill. Your point?

[burnt tree]

but since south vern it hasnt been bad at all

[uncut dirge]

no, that's not what i mean @burnt tree

[queen grail]

You're generic

[uncut dirge]

i mean that the gameplay for the story sucks

[meager hill]

aegir in particular is so cinematic that my fps drops to 24 so I can fully appreciate it

[burnt tree]

echidna g1 is so cinematic, it takes 50 years to load for some ppl

[uncut dirge]

you're not gonna be invested about this big bad guy

when you kill him in 3 hits

and that's what happens in the campaign

[burnt tree]

cause its an MMO

lmfao

[swift tree]

bigger issue is that most scenes that introduce Kazeros are skipped by the powerpass

[uncut dirge]

this is by far the most trivial story content i've ever seen in an MMO

i don't think that excuse holds any water

[swift tree]

then you haven't played many MMOs

[burnt tree]

^

[uncut dirge]

i can't think of any MMOs that i've played

where it was impossible to die during the campaign

that also at the same time had instant pots and huge overhealing pots

and if you did die you had an instant revive in the same location

[burnt tree]

theres barely been any MMOs that i died in the campaign in general

[uncut dirge]

i can't think of ANY games that have that

like wotlk quests

you run into the wrong story quest and that thing will kill you

you can't just stroll into any dungeon and solo it like it's nothing

in lost ark you don't even have to understand the combat since you deal so much damage compared to mob hp

[swift tree]

uses classic wow as a comparison< cmon Aerroon.

[burnt tree]

xdd

[uncut dirge]

well it's my latest wow experience

and not classic i mean the original

[swift tree]

ESO, LOTRO, FF, DCU, BDO all when I did their main stories at the start were super mind numbing

[burnt tree]

MMOs dont make their stories like that anymore

ure talking from an era that wont come back

[uncut dirge]

blade & soul also definitely didn't have a trivial story campaign

but

[burnt tree]

it did

[swift tree]

even older mmos have changed their MSQ to be super easy and sped up so you can catch up

[burnt tree]

i never died in it

unless i was trolling

[uncut dirge]

but you were at risk of dying

[burnt tree]

and walked into insta kill zones

[uncut dirge]

and it included dungeons you had to do

no?

[burnt tree]

the dungeons were trivial

[uncut dirge]

i don't remember them being trivial on release

some of them were definitely party dungeons

and soloing them was very difficult

[burnt tree]

i mean

they werent designed to be solo'd

purple dungeons were meant to be partied up early on

blue dungeons could be solo'd and it wasnt really a challenge

unless u lacked hands

[uncut dirge]

but yeah i haven't played many MMOs since wotlk release

basically this, blade & soul and runescape

[burnt tree]

yeah so you talk from an era that doesnt exist

[uncut dirge]

oh and i did play that one MMO that died

wildstar

[uncut dirge]

yeah but this is a far cry from lost ark

mobs literally fall over in a single hit here in the campaign

and bosses will usually die in 1-5 hits

[burnt tree]

well yeah, why would u want someone to struggle to unlock a new continents content

[uncut dirge]

yes

yes i would

[burnt tree]

well u can go back to WoW if u want that so badly

[uncut dirge]

because that is the main strength this game has to offer

the combat

[burnt tree]

yeah and thats what the raids are for

[uncut dirge]

but it doesn't utilize the combat system AT ALL in the story

[burnt tree]

or guardians

[queen grail]

Why tho? Story is always supposed to be fast in mmorpg

[uncut dirge]

virtually all content outside of the campaign is infinitely more difficult in this game

[burnt tree]

story is supposed to introduce characters and the world

not to be a challenging battle content

[uncut dirge]

because it's INSANELY BORING

because it LACKS gameplay

[queen grail]

Mmorpg's is not for the story only.

[burnt tree]

i dont

[uncut dirge]

THEN STOP ADDING IT

stop adding continents to the game then

[burnt tree]

put the difficulty of the story content and the story telling together tbh

[queen grail]

Huh?

[uncut dirge]

because it's not RELEVANT to what players do

[queen grail]

It's not "only" you should and need story.

But mmorpg's is not just for that.

[burnt tree]

mmos are a theme park

[meager hill]

[burnt tree]

but lost ark is lacking in general

[uncut dirge]

other games release story content -> cool i wanna play it and find out more

whereas in lost ark it's purely a chore

[zealous lintel]

MMOrpg without story? What am i even reading?

[uncut dirge]

becaus eit lacks ANY gameplay

[burnt tree]

yes u find out more from dialogues and cutscenes

not the fights themselves

its a fight

[zealous lintel]

thats cause everyone and their grandma rushes the story...

[uncut dirge]

because the story is MEANINGLESS

[zealous lintel]

to you

[uncut dirge]

since it lacks GAMEPLAY in a GAME

to everyone

[zealous lintel]

na

not for me

[uncut dirge]

the people who came to this game

[burnt tree]

its not meaningless

[uncut dirge]

and liked to do the campaign because it was a fun experience for them

[zealous lintel]

yeah, the second and third time around

[burnt tree]

i legit wouldnt be playing without the story rn

[uncut dirge]

quit the moment they enter the first guardian/legion raid

[zealous lintel]

but thats why we have kt

[torn ether]

cuz its boring as fuck

[uncut dirge]

because the difficulty jump is so enormously huge

[zealous lintel]

thats fine

[uncut dirge]

they find it difficult to bridge the gap

[zealous lintel]

i like the story

[burnt tree]

u should never compare the story difficulty to a raids tho?

[torn ether]

i do like to story too i dont like how they deliver it

[burnt tree]

like why tf ud do that on an mmo

[uncut dirge]

and anyone that comes to the game expecting fun and difficult gameplay

ends up quitting because they drown in the 20+ hours of trivial content

[zealous lintel]

cause you rush it most of the time

[uncut dirge]

that doesn't challenge them even a tiny inkling

[burnt tree]

i love how u think ppl quit cause the story is easy

fkin delulu lala land

time for lunch

[zealous lintel]

how should it be delivered in your opinion?

[uncut dirge]

the campaign in this game is purely a chore

[south harbor]

2 hrs average and you dont need to run it more than once what are you even complaining about

[zealous lintel]

i am curious

[uncut dirge]

i distinctly remember when the game launched

in stream chats i saw on multiple occasions people say the game is boring

because it's so easy

do you think those guys ever stuck around long enough to even see a guardian raid?

of course they didn't

i've also met mokokos who joined the game, enjoyed questing through it

[torn ether]

most of the chars lack identity

[uncut dirge]

then got to legion raids, and ended up quitting a few weeks after because it was too hard for them and thus unenjoyable

[queen grail]

Bro, the MSQ for mmorpg's should be fun and fast first time, and then instant the second time.

No one gives a flying fudge if the story is easy / fast / instant.

Or I should say 99% of people don't care.

You do MSQ once (Unless It's like wow with horde/alliance with split-story then sure twice), and the rest of the time the game starts at Max Lvl.

[uncut dirge]

of course people care

it's a game that's supposed to be fun

[zealous lintel]

so more story telling and backgrounds. ok. so how do you deliver that one if you even want to add more story related content?

[uncut dirge]

if you don't provide some modicum of fun out of the gate you lose the player

[queen grail]

Not really, maybe a few people, but in general people don't play mmorpg's to be in MSQ for their entire life.

If you wanted that type of game, play that type of game?

[uncut dirge]

it's not about being in MSQ for their entire life

[swift tree]

Lord of the Rings Online had their MSQ involve group dungeons, first it was 6-man groups (their version of Abyssals) and the laster Mines of Moria main story required you to form a Raid to complete several major sections.

They changed it because there was such a low clear rate of the content and it became a roadblock when the game moved beyond it.

Same thing happened with Lost Ark. Season 1 had harder/more-involved progression.
Farming guardians and abyssals to progress from continent to continent. Sure the story itself was slow but the lower damage everyone did paced that out more.

[queen grail]

Like there are so many games where the core of the game is the story and campaigns.

[uncut dirge]

it's for the MSQ to have ANY level of difficulty

[queen grail]

A MMORPG is like 10% Story - 90% Combat.

[zealous lintel]

this.

[torn ether]

bro im not a story teller or a scripter i just dont like the way that they tell it lol

[meager hill]

I do think he has a point, if you enjoy the story and want to play through it, you have to go through the raids because that's the only progression path, and the some of the raids are a real pain on ilvl even with the solo mode

[uncut dirge]

the game is so trivial that bots could do the entire campaign from launch of the game

[zealous lintel]

then dont come here and say "i dont like" if you dont have any ideas man.

[uncut dirge]

while they struggled to do any guardians or actual raids

[queen grail]

Bruh, If I have to struggle during MSQ in a mmorpg I might neck, you should zoom zoom msq.

[zealous lintel]

if you find something unfun, you have to at least know as to why its unfun.

[torn ether]

what are you saying bro i dont like it i dont have to have ideas about how to write a script to like it

[zealous lintel]

i dont like linear story telling > unliniear

[torn ether]

holy shit that was stupid

[zealous lintel]

dude

[queen grail]

Solo mode being hard is mostly a hand / learning issue, let's be real,

And that's fine, people play at different levels.

[zealous lintel]

we arent taling about a sript

[uncut dirge]

through actual interactive gameplay

[zealous lintel]

wtf

[uncut dirge]

that is a tiny bit challenging at least

[swift tree]

so the MSQ is just one long movie?

[zealous lintel]

we are talking about your opinion how to make it better

lol

bro acting like he needs to be a writer

[uncut dirge]

no, it's basically just one long book

[queen grail]

no joke, if you struggle to do Guardian Raids, maybe this type of game is not for you, and that's fine.

[uncut dirge]

with a few cutscenes

[zealous lintel]

its easy: dont like cutscenes > less cutscenes > more gameplay

[uncut dirge]

i mean all the story "gameplay" consists of going from NPC to NPC, talking to them, standing still, doing an emote

[torn ether]

and i said give more back grounds on the character without making it sluggish

[uncut dirge]

or killing a few monsters that die in one hit

[zealous lintel]

dont like strg+q to skip? make it optional to read through main parts

[meager hill]

sure, I don't disagree (well akkan can go fuck itself), but they are a hurdle that are inconsequential to story enjoyers, since the complete story of the raid is locked behind HM anyway

[torn ether]

dont make stuff like hide and seek at armens back ground

stuff like that kills the mood

[uncut dirge]

then you have a dungeon sometimes where you gotta kill mobs that also die in one hit, with a boss inbetween that dies in 1-5 hits

[swift tree]

tl;dr same as Skyrim but people with ADHD get to jump around the room and stim.

[zealous lintel]

thats what i am talking about

[uncut dirge]

it's not the same as skyrim at all

[zealous lintel]

and i can agree with taht

[lunar hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-anime-anime-girl-k3lly-gif-3750851433064151259

[zealous lintel]

was the most tedious msq i played till this day

i agree

[uncut dirge]

you couldn't just walk away from the computer in themiddle of combat in skyrim

[south harbor]

you can pause

[uncut dirge]

go to the kitchen, grab a drink, come back and be at 70% hp still

[swift tree]

ngl some of that stuff you have a skip baked in if you've done it before.

[uncut dirge]

but that's exactly the kind of thing you can do in lost ark

and even if you are away for longer it's no big deal since you have an instant revive in the same spot

[queen grail]

But that's just, mmo life.

And could they make solo better? Sure, and could they add "full story/game" behind solo too? Sure.

But at the end of the game, a mmorpg is like 10% Story/Msq and 90% Combat, some more some less ofc.

[south harbor]

[covert remnant]

How long are they gonna keep this chaos dungeon sh*t on?
My eyes hurt looking at that!

[south harbor]

probably until next reset

[uncut dirge]

friend of mine said that the mobs don't even give xp

only the big ones

[queen grail]

But if you want a semi-challanging story driven game that's fair and whatnot, then, there's a ton of them on the market, pick those up over playing a mmorpg

[uncut dirge]

it doesn't have to even be "semi-challenging"

it doesn't have to match any of the other "challenging" content in the game

[swift tree]

https://lotro-wiki.com/wiki/Shortened_Account tl;dr should have the option to instead of those transform dungeons... there's an option to just skip them once you've completed them once on your roster like this link

[uncut dirge]

but it needs to not be so utterly trivial

[queen grail]

It shouldn't be any challenge, It's legit just a trash-wall of story and whatnot for lore-nerds that want to read story before the real game start

There's a reason most people do MSQ once and then never again.

[covert remnant]

They just pressed the button and forgot about the dungeon huh?

[queen grail]

I have 15 char's.

I've done the main story line once.

[uncut dirge]

i've done it about 10 times by now

and even in the beta i said the story was too trivial

[queen grail]

Ye, you're the anomaly not the norm I'd gamble

[uncut dirge]

it's too long

to be this trivial is theproblem

[queen grail]

In my experience, most people that play mmorpg's don't want to spend hours and hours doing msq's.

You do it once, you get to max level, you start playing the real game.

[uncut dirge]

either make it shorter or make it less trivial

or both

but it really needs to be less trivial in my opinion

something more along the lines of difficulty players can face later on in solo or guardian raids

you can always add some kind of a pity system to dungeons

[queen grail]

Or just find a game that actually fit better for what you want?

[meager hill]

ah, but this is what I wanted to get at. Other mmos let you go through their story without forcing you to engage with other "endgame" content like raids, whereas that's not possible in lost ark

[uncut dirge]

where it gets easier and easier if you do fail

[swift tree]

MSQ doesn't have boss' health reset immediately if you die

[queen grail]

Ye, I'd argue that lost ark is a bit more on the "Combat" side for a mmorpg

As we can see with how hard the raids are on hardmode.

[uncut dirge]

well, anotehr thing that they should add is checkpoints

[swift tree]

they do..

[uncut dirge]

like a lot more of them, so if you die and revive at checkpoint you're not that far behind

idk

if you died in the first ark dungeon

your choices were

[swift tree]

there's 6 checkpoints in the most recent "The Final Day" one

[uncut dirge]

1. revive outside of the dungeon/at the start
2. revive on the spot with a feather

but if you're new to the game you don't know that feathers are worthless and b asically in unlimited quantity

you might think it's a valuable resource and pick option 1

[swift tree]

you mean the loghill one that's tiny?

[meager hill]

yeah, which is more of a design issue imo, I do think they could change stuff around, but they'd have to overhaul huge chunks of the game which is unlikely

[uncut dirge]

no, luterra's tomb

the one with kitava at the end

[swift tree]

Luterra's tomb is dumb, yes, but it does also have a checkpoint, but it should have extra

[uncut dirge]

and i think the dungeon in arthetine is the same

[queen grail]

Doubt they will do it.

I also think they mostly cater to the people that want to raid at end-game.
That's where the $$$ is and I'd argue most of their playerbase.

[uncut dirge]

you either respawn on the spot with feather or you start from the beginning

i don't know about the rest

[swift tree]

Arthetine one with the hoverboard section takes you to the end of the board track if you die post-move (or there's a spot that skips you back to it).

[uncut dirge]

i remember these because i tried to do all dungeons without any potions i think

and those were the ones i had to redo on my first clear

[meager hill]

Agreed, it is a raiding game that just happens to have a story. It's just a nice thing to dream about

[uncut dirge]

oh, i meant the final one

the one where mari is not the final boss

[swift tree]

Verdantier? yeah that one is ass but for different reasons, the slow ass trams

[uncut dirge]

krause or whatever his name was

[fresh flint]

Speaking of stemming in games. I wish we could use space bar to jump. But all I have is auto attacks

[uncut dirge]

i think it's an isometric game thing

[fresh flint]

Yeah

[uncut dirge]

basically the way games are made is that

[fresh flint]

That’s why I just play GunZ when I need to stem really badly and have no outlet.

[uncut dirge]

some games are essentially an empty space and you can go anywhere you want unless there's a wall in the way

other games are basically games that are completely filled in

[swift tree]

2.5D games that rely on navmesh pathing, jumping screws with it

[uncut dirge]

and you can only go to places the developer says you can go to

and isometric games tend to be the latter

which makes jumping not really a thing since you can't climb over obstacles anyway

[fresh flint]

GunZ reigns supreme for all of my stem babies

You can jump on walls and shit

[uncut dirge]

since the navmesh doesn't allow you to pathfind there

[fresh flint]

It’s bliss

[uncut dirge]

but i do agree

it would be coo

but this is also one of the reasons why isometric games always feel so 'claustrophobic'

[fresh flint]

Backflip front flip walling wall jump shoot shoot shoot slice SOUNDS PRETTY COLOR BING BONG

[uncut dirge]

you know how we gotta G over gaps?

imagine if we had to time a jump with space bar

[fresh flint]

Ya

[uncut dirge]

doing echidna

[fresh flint]

lol that’d suck ass

[uncut dirge]

"ah shit, our support failed the jump over the gap"

i mean WoW literally had that

[swift tree]

means the edges of their navmesh's have different flags for surfaces

[uncut dirge]

there's at least one boss in Naxx where you had to jump over gaps

and could fall down

[swift tree]

... Mordoom fight with it

[fresh flint]

Idc what it means I’m talking about a cool game fuck this nerd shit

[uncut dirge]

i've only played a few hours of gunz

was nice

but too hard for me

my experience was to go into a game

combos are hard

[fresh flint]

I loveeeee gunz

[uncut dirge]

and then i end up fighting some god that dodges everything and does these insane combos

[fresh flint]

It took a year but I got pretty decent at it

https://youtu.be/Tqj97Of1FkY?si=PQkmnoYZqedtb3cz

[swift tree]

Looks like Jedi Academy PvP with guns

[fresh flint]

Gunz was the og

It shut down sometime ago but it’ll be coming out as the og version sometime soon on steam

I’m about to go oonga boonga on that shit

[queen grail]

@neon cedar Did you do some of your EUC raids?

@burnt tree only got our raids left and one Aegir normal.

What do I play now until reset

[storm bronze]

[burnt tree]

a better game

[wicked blade]

PoE2 tomorrow?

Not gonna play?

[queen grail]

This is the most useless shit ever made in lost ark

There should be an option pre-raid start that just said "Skip to start" and you skipped all of this.

[queen grail]

Ehh.

Maybe I guess I can do a few days of POE.

[wicked blade]

Witch has new ascendency

New class

[queen grail]

Solo Self Fund tho.

[wicked blade]

I will do the same

[queen grail]

Fuck Poe's trash trade.

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/how-dare-you-james-franco-looking-gif-15728181

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/chaewon-side-eye-eyebrow-le-sserafim-freaknot-gif-9060728444830763120

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cute-silly-no-sassy-gif-4006991084031847111

[neon cedar]

I did Echidna. I havr argir and behe left

[uncut dirge]

so close

yet so far away

[wicked blade]

You are trash.

Not game issue that u can't use search function

And brain

[queen grail]

Don't even, poe's trade is actual garbage trash.

[uncut dirge]

+1 to aly

[wicked blade]

It is not

It is usable

[queen grail]

It's useless and garrbage.

[wicked blade]

Well I use it and never had issues

[queen grail]

It's wild that a game get's away with it in this day and age.

And a big ass game like poe.

[uncut dirge]

it's on purpose tho

[wicked blade]

Ye, because it is functional

[real basin]

That's what I call "hallway trash." All trash in raids is bad and unnecessary time wasting mechanics. Hallway trash is just there to prove the point that trash is meant to waste time.

[uncut dirge]

because unlike lost ark stuff in poe is not insanely scarce on purpose

which means that if trade gets easy

[storm bronze]

[uncut dirge]

then anything a moderate player finds is immediately worthless

[wicked blade]

Yup

Pretty much

[queen grail]

Functional =/= good.

It's trash.

[wicked blade]

It is by design.

[queen grail]

And they are rich enough to fix the trash.

It's shit design then.

By a shit dev.

[uncut dirge]

essentially the trouble is that higher level players get so much more loot drops

[wicked blade]

U are dumb Aly

[uncut dirge]

that they will produce too much of all the crap lower levels need

[wicked blade]

Please don't comment on other games

When only one u play is LOA

[uncut dirge]

so lower levels never get to actually sell anything

[wicked blade]

[lunar hedge]

Just keep walking

[queen grail]

I've played more games than you've ever seen buddy

[wicked blade]

Yeah, because I have a life

Anyways, I got relic Disrespect

Fuck LOA

[queen grail]

Listen here, you don't have to lie to make poe look good.

the game itself is good, I'm not saying anything on that.

But their trade is downright just fucking stupid.

[wicked blade]

Trash game

[queen grail]

And, on top of that.

[wicked blade]

PoE2 is way better game then LOA

[queen grail]

They even promised pre-Poe2 to fix it.

[wicked blade]

U have tradeoff

[queen grail]

To not have the trade like it is now.

So what??

[wicked blade]

But nowhere near as trash as LOA

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/hong-haein-queen-of-tears-embarassed-kim-jiwon-gif-10396541810745781738

[uncut dirge]

they did

for non-gear items

[burnt tree]

hot take both games are trash anyway

[wicked blade]

PoE2 is fun and not a second job

[queen grail]

Pretty sure in the intervju they didn't specify.

[real basin]

poe2 suk compared to poe because ruthless is trash, and poe suk because it's unplayable in SSF

[queen grail]

[storm bronze]

loa is the superior game

[wicked blade]

Unless u are a Deathboi, sir is no lifing PoE

[lunar hedge]

Oh yeah raven, remember what I said about Rimeria going to be in May. Yeah

Wuwa time

[wicked blade]

Ye, they can suck dick

May is WuWa month

I can't be asked

[uncut dirge]

how do you let go of an old character in lost ark

[lunar hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/carlotta-wuwa-wuthering-waves-point-gif-16027435440390173085

[uncut dirge]

like lets imagine you've got a 1640 char

you do all your raids and then you've got that 1640 left

[lunar hedge]

Bench it

[queen grail]

No sane person likes poe's trade, you tolerate it, It's not the same

[uncut dirge]

an you're like "well, it's extra gold"

[lunar hedge]

And get every other character past 1660

[uncut dirge]

and then you do the raids

[wicked blade]

@lunar hedge Zani with 12 abillities

[uncut dirge]

but it adds to the amount of time you play the game and you'd rather not

[lunar hedge]

I saw

[wicked blade]

WuWa more complex then LOA

[queen grail]

OkiDoki.

[wicked blade]

Wohoo, gatcha game is beating mmorpg

[uncut dirge]

i feel like 1680 is the spot at which you should abandon chars

[wicked blade]

Yup

[uncut dirge]

hone them to 1680, raid on them until 1680 becomes irrelevant

and then drop em

but that seems so far away

[wicked blade]

I honed my main to 1681 and imma drop it until next raid

I mean whole game

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/so-weak-ruthie-outer-banks-how-feeble-netflix-gif-5866538344152220504

[wicked blade]

Maybe just gonna do Brels for Karma

And that is it

LOA became burdensome and I don't enjoy it anymore

Time for smol break

I actually did all events so I'm not losing anything for a next month or two

Pog

[zealous lintel]

satho do be hatin

[burnt tree]

fund me +25 weap

[burnt tree]

im just realistic

[queen grail]

I don't even have 25 wep hell I hvae 20...

[burnt tree]

i have 19

[zealous lintel]

[burnt tree]

quick fund

[burnt tree]

every1 hyped up PoE2, ppl played it for a week and went back to PoE1

[zealous lintel]

i agree

[burnt tree]

now they go back to PoE2 cause the patch notes were long

[queen grail]

WASD Is superior, thusly Poe2 > Poe

[burnt tree]

sold already naisu

[neon cedar]

[burnt tree]

[swift tree]

gross

[burnt tree]

time to uninstall

u finished the game

[neon cedar]

I have won. No more playing required

Tomorrow I wont launch the game at all

[storm bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-thomas-mcgregor-domhnall-gleeson-peter-rabbit2-the-runaway-gif-20962823

[queen grail]

NoLife.

[swift tree]

[neon cedar]

[swift tree]

-> Korea update: "2000 days streak trophy added"

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-15530372636024879885

[burnt tree]

ready to get shafted

[queen grail]

AGAIN ALMOST GOOD BRACELET!

[burnt tree]

shafted

[worldly hawk]

[queen grail]

[neon cedar]

[worldly hawk]

[queen grail]

Big

@burnt tree You playing?

[burnt tree]

yea

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-salute-mgs3-gif-9277925

[burnt tree]

will he bear it as a wild soul

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/besos-gif-27336541

[storm bronze]

[queen grail]

Just waiting for a buddy to respond and then we will see he's 🐢 tho.

Surely.

Nvm

but 4 tapped to 18

[burnt tree]

whale luck fr

[burnt tree]

meanwhile

[queen grail]

Honing is fun tho, fr fr, even with that luck, It was still like 200k for 3 taps, like, what...

Whatcha spending this on? @neon cedar @burnt tree @wintry depot

[burnt tree]

maybe gems

[worldly hawk]

microplastics

[queen grail]

[wicked blade]

I blow 100k on 2 x +17

Expencive af

[neon cedar]

Probably just gems. I dont need anything from the shop

In NA at least

[queen grail]

10%'ish.

Some taps, and poof, all gold earned this week is gone.

[burnt tree]

damn outmvp'd +25 slayer in cube

[queen grail]

Love it.

[queen grail]

ye, honing is fun.

[queen grail]

I'm thinking trans ticket's.

[burnt tree]

idk if i wanna hone gear equally

or get +25 weap after Act 3

[queen grail]

whale

[burnt tree]

how

i wanna get 1730

[swift tree]

your gear +16 all pieces or +17?

[burnt tree]

+19

If i get weapon +25 ill be 1710 and 1730 with AH 21-40

Ofc its a slow project

[swift tree]

ye

[burnt tree]

Im not gonna swipe or something

[swift tree]

nvm

[burnt tree]

But yeah since AH enchantment is similar to honing now

Im not fkin myself over defence wise

The biggest help in all this is the strike raid

If i get lucky gold drops weekly its gonna be pretty manageable

[cosmic flame]

If I finish up AH with act3 I should be 1730

After that I might work on either weapon or finish up books tbh

[burnt tree]

I might do books

Relic embers coming and they will definitely make them drop in price

[cosmic flame]

Ye idk bout that

I hope so though

I stopped buying books because I can meet the dps requirement of kr version hm act3 pre nerfs

So I’m fairly confident I’m good for now

[burnt tree]

The relic embers made the books on KR about 30% cheaper

[wicked blade]

[burnt tree]

Also Cube no longer dropping purple books at 1700 made the pool much smaller for relic books

[wicked blade]

You will get legendary 99.9% of time

[burnt tree]

The pool is still smaller so the odds of relic are higher

Im not saying ill get relic every other run but the odds are better so its nice overall

[wicked blade]

1 more lvl 7 and I can combine first lvl 8

[worn current]

idk who i should delete to make a wildsoul

[ancient tundra]

Delete any male char u have

[stark grove]

+1

[cosmic flame]

Delete soul eater

[errant fable]

true endboss hp

[wicked blade]

So I'm pushing 1700

Damn, honing is expencive

[worn current]

ouch

Cant do that

[burnt tree]

1700 is the best spot to be on but if you haven't finished AH, better wait for April Patch

[stark grove]

delete the deadeye

[burnt tree]

Delete the male classes

Easy

[stark grove]

^

[burnt tree]

You don't even need to think hard about it

[worn current]

You right

[wicked blade]

Surely it taps now

[cosmic flame]

DE gets a pass in my book

[burnt tree]

Shorely

[nova garden]

Delete male classes

Specialists don’t count as real classes so that’s whatever.

[turbid oriole]

Male mage when

[worldly hawk]

2027

[turbid oriole]

@swift tree why u leave the cool kids table

[swift tree]

dms

[turbid oriole]

[swift tree]

Artist just hit 1660, just GL and Pally left

[cosmic flame]

[stark sky]

this chaos dungeon triggers my trypophobia

its so fucked

[thorny olive]

[fresh flint]

[pallid tundra]

Why dont they lower aegir entry level to 1640?

[surreal gyro]

why would they?

[fresh flint]

Why

[pallid tundra]

Sup problem

[stark sky]

dont be a fucking weirdo

[swift tree]

it’s 12 taps, if anything just reduce oreha cost

[surreal gyro]

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/avantris-yes-creepy-smile-toady-legends-of-avantris-gif-5794081650314299635

[rocky plume]

[wicked blade]

Just now?

[rocky plume]

yes solo guild

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[slender sky]

sick idea bro

[wicked blade]

Rip

[rocky plume]

no

[fresh flint]

Don’t encourage this kind of behavior.

[lunar hedge]

Lowering gate ilvl just for support. I think I know what the problem is

Work on your support benchwarmers

[cosmic flame]

Why don’t support hone up and unrat themselves?

You have cheaper builds, cheaper books, cheaper accessories, you face 0 gatekeeping

[tardy tusk]

isnt good accs on supps like giga expensive?

[fresh flint]

Giga

[frail swallow]

Lets maybe refrain from deliberately attempting to trigger someones phobia, alright?

[cosmic flame]

They’re like 60% the cost of giga good dps accessories

Just like how their books is 20% the cost of dps books

Only thing they spend on is prolly gems

[tardy tusk]

idk tbh, havent checked the prices since my chars its full.

[lunar hedge]

Good Support accessories are comparatively more affordable than good dps accessories

[tardy tusk]

but saw a lot of accs with only 8% brand super expensive.

like 2-3 months ago

[lunar hedge]

That's 2-3 months ago

[cosmic flame]

That’s early t4 sure

Dps would run 4m back then

[tardy tusk]

idk man i just builded my dps´s and close that shit lmao

[cosmic flame]

People play support cus it’s free rat gold

Not because it’s fun

Hence they rat in 1640 forever

[tardy tusk]

I actually like play my pally

hes 1665

[cosmic flame]

I wanted to push a bard

But it’s impossible with my static

[tardy tusk]

A little break from the arcana suffering.

[cosmic flame]

They actually need me on 6 dps

[valid turtle]

is there a trade channel in this discord?

i wanna trade a lvl 8 cd for damage

[fresh flint]

Yeh

#trading-na

[thorny olive]

these are worthless

[rocky plume]

[fresh flint]

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/load-blow-gif-27480509

[fresh flint]

https://tenor.com/view/pignod-liarsbar-liars-bar-liars-deck-nodding-gif-1947350196978635914

[valid turtle]

its asking for a screenshot url

but wont accept a screenshot from clipboard

not sure how to do that...

[fresh flint]

Upload it to something like tinyurl or whatever image hosting website

Or use light shots upload feature

[valid turtle]

i dont use any of those things

[fresh flint]

Bro do I have to hold your hand

[valid turtle]

ye

[fresh flint]

https://postimages.org/

Upload it

[valid turtle]

ty

i didnt want to make an acc

[fresh flint]

Lmao

Yw

[slender sky]

chris for community helper

[fresh flint]

I would gain negative karma

[valid turtle]

didnt work

[fresh flint]

Try right clicking the image and clicking copy image link

From the upload

[nova garden]

I remember when I found out that my friend pronounced Imgur like em’-grr all his life.

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/holding-hands-lewd-anime-blush-censored-gif-15104649

[fresh flint]

[fresh flint]

Shoo!! No hand holding for you

[valid turtle]

i had to use the direct link

not the "link"

okayge

[queen grail]

That's you and @valid turtle

[fresh flint]

Sounds about right

[fresh flint]

Finna hold bros hand all day

[slender sky]

the censor is wild tho

[fresh flint]

Where

Here

Blame the idiots

[slender sky]

here

[fresh flint]

Oh

LOL

wtf

[queen grail]

You didn't see that?

[fresh flint]

Less mad more glad muah

[fresh flint]

No

[ancient tundra]

Why do you have kid changli

As a sticker

[slender sky]

yo 10 coins again

[fresh flint]

Ye that’s quite pog

Less to spend

[valid turtle]

why do you know its kid changli

[ancient tundra]

Cause i played the story ?

[valid turtle]

well i havnt

i just thought it was actual changli

[ancient tundra]

Go do it

It s really good

[valid turtle]

i might

[ancient tundra]

It s about her past

[valid turtle]

thinking of reinstalling wuwa

[thorny olive]

why is brel a total psychopath

[ancient tundra]

It s a legit banger

[fresh flint]

Traumatic childhood

[turbid oriole]

its not?

[thorny olive]

her ADHD is stronger than aegir istg

zoom all around 24/7 spamming crap

[fresh flint]

Hell naw she’s on Xanax compared to aegir

[thorny olive]

not in my last run

worst boss ever

[fresh flint]

Only phase I can’t stand about her is p1 the rest is kinda meh

But when you push fast and she does mech to mech to mech to mech I can see how it’s annoying

[thorny olive]

she was infinitely spamming

like

there was no stop

[fresh flint]

The just guard wave spamming that targets someone is so fkn annoying when she does it a lot

[nova garden]

No wei

[thorny olive]

the G1 was more chill than G2 lol

[wind dagger]

question

when we getting rimera updatE?

[thorny olive]

eos

[cosmic flame]

May

so april is a dead month

[wind dagger]

🤔

[cosmic flame]

may only new msq and daily

june new raid

[wind dagger]

do i buy reskin ticket

wait

when we gettinb echidna hair

??

[cosmic flame]

no info yet

[wind dagger]

ok

AGS, rfuck you

go tot hell

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/load-blow-gif-27480509

[cosmic flame]

oh cool I have 24 set for act3 now

too easy

[fresh flint]

No but fr new hairs are so simple pls give me my mf wigs

[slender sky]

april is lowkey the better month than may

[fresh flint]

I can’t wait for rebal to hit

[burnt tree]

i can use 1 selector on kadan or luttera and ill have 24set too

[cosmic flame]

nah not worth

[burnt tree]

yeah ik

its just 1 card missing ill probably get it soon

[cosmic flame]

I did an aegir and dropped rotten akkan + random leg card

and got the one from fever time

dropped kadan for the 24 set

[wintry depot]

Just buy the one discounted at 600 and keep it till hair

Thats what i did

[burnt tree]

i got shafted from fever

i got torn valtan

but ill torn him to pieces myself if i get him again

[cosmic flame]

the fact that those are so rare is very annoying

[cosmic flame]

look at this shit

my most dropped cards

[ancient tundra]

Why is this bro still coming back

[cosmic flame]

brel also almost max

[ancient tundra]

Lmao

[burnt tree]

its just an update card

for his raids

every legion commander got a new card even if dead

[ancient tundra]

Rn two are perma dead ?

[burnt tree]

mine are Kazeros/Valicio/New Kakul Saydon

[uncut stratus]

[ancient tundra]

Wtf

[burnt tree]

undeserved

[ancient tundra]

[burnt tree]

vykas, akkan and valtan

[cosmic flame]

deserved my king

[burnt tree]

thaemine ditched Kazeros in Act 3

[ancient tundra]

Oh shiii

[burnt tree]

so he only has brel and echidna left

[ancient tundra]

Thaemine sidereal incoming ?

[burnt tree]

no

we got Kharmine sidereal in Act 3 G1

G1 of Act 3 is Thaemine x Infernas

[slender sky]

[pallid tundra]

Tell that to sup alts then

[fresh flint]

I wonder if because of thae being a piece of whatever his face if he can just resurrect or if he’s dead perma after

[slender sky]

UGHN

[fresh flint]

[burnt tree]

hes alive he wont die if u break his mask

the armor was a way for brel and kaz to control him

they already knew who he is

[worldly hawk]

[fresh flint]

Oh he’s not like the other ones then

I thought he was already dead

But brought back or whatever

But he’s just being controlled

[burnt tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOvTuiwLcuI u can see how he looked prior to the armor in his origin cinematic

[burnt tree]

supressed more like

[fresh flint]

Can’t working

[burnt tree]

some of his memories returned over time during and after the raid

[fresh flint]

Right

[burnt tree]

thats how he looks without armor xd

[fresh flint]

wtf lol

So if he were to be released from the armor

Is he an evil cunt or no

[burnt tree]

he is

[fresh flint]

Oh so same diff even if he didn’t have it

Smh

[burnt tree]

well technically

he ruled half of Petrania by himself

b4 being summoned by Brel and Kaz to join them

regardless in Act 3 after u fight Thaemine, he talks with Kharmine and both decide to leave the battlefield, not interfering against Kazeros

so Kaz only has Echidna, Brel and Varkan as a last defence
Varkan will definitely be in some shape or form in the raid

brel and echidna who knows

[rocky plume]

[tropic lichen]

[queen grail]

Whale.

[rocky plume]

f2p

[queen grail]

Ye, no.

[rocky plume]

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[thorny olive]

bruh

[slender sky]

chad

[tropic lichen]

got really lucky

[thorny olive]

f2p

[slender sky]

little corpa

[vagrant cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908884098901229600/1306836200178319360/WeirdBird.gif

[worldly hawk]

[rocky plume]

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-gif-25818512

[worldly hawk]

[safe lark]

write advance honing

https://tenor.com/view/sorceress-gif-24990868

[wintry depot]

doing tome is like 2 days

not very long content

[slender sky]

and thats generous

kurzan took a couple hours

[wintry depot]

yeah

2 days is for slackers

[slender sky]

unironically commenting on twitter is crazy work tho

[wintry depot]

shouldve asked for hairs

since ags think its content

[slender sky]

[storm bronze]

Caw Caw

[cosmic flame]

Sup shortage btw

[high fog]

Make a dps shortage thread in official

Asking for dps honing nerfs

And additional rewards for dps clearing raids

[bleak zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-sushi-gif-10176613286252389324

[tall mango]

Hem... Once i'm 50 am i supposed to skip Artheline and dirrectly go to punika for gear? I totally forgot how to proceed xD

[storm bronze]

i'm also 50y old

[nova garden]

I’d ask questions in #lost-ark-help

Because I kinda forget

[tall mango]

I found it... i have to do the main quest until bern

[turbid oriole]

what

r these

[lunar hedge]

No idea

Looks insignificant

[turbid oriole]

@midnight marlin

[lunar hedge]

[stark grove]

only 130 out of 999,999,999

noob

[neon cedar]

Gold frog shop

[thorny olive]

shh

also..

CHARCOAL

[turbid oriole]

thx community helper

[rocky plume]

how much critrate you want YES

[stark sky]

Yeah people r so dumb

The supp shortage they claim there is isn't even that bad

Supports are all just degens and raid last minute

If u ever seen aegir on Monday tuesday

It's all lf dps

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[thorny olive]

"bUt i CaNt gEt a sUp fOr mY 🐀 cHaRs"

[stark sky]

that's it though

They're bare min characters looking to apply to 2 support lobbies

On reset day

Meaning there's 50 other applicants

I got nerfed

When moving I damaged my GPU I think

So now I have to play on gfn

[turbid oriole]

did u not take it out of pc

[tardy tusk]

When i moved, i first moved my pc to the new house, to a safe zone

then the rest.

lols

[rocky plume]

@thorny olive

[thorny olive]

Cuute

[rocky plume]

5 weeks for 1740

[fresh flint]

Waow you went to t4?

[rocky plume]

you see T3 acc

[fresh flint]

I know you’re gonna whale some so it doesn’t matter

But you went to t4 gear

[rocky plume]

yes

[fresh flint]

Bout time

[thorny olive]

1720 with relic armor

[tardy tusk]

What the fuck.

[tulip charm]

it finally sold, took a month to sell it, relic bracelet

[low nebula]

Krit

[low nebula]

nice rmt

[cosmic flame]

free 80k

[worldly hawk]

[fair hornet]

If you're mokoko, do you lose it at 1660 hone, or 1670?

[cosmic flame]

1670

[stark sky]

send to me

[cosmic flame]

if it was spec crit I would've rolled that myself

I even undercut the price by 20k because I'm a chill guy

[tardy tusk]

yeah no

gold slut

[turbid oriole]

wdf

hows chuan's garbage sell for 3x

err

zheng

5x*

[cosmic flame]

crit spec

[turbid oriole]

not even ancient

[cosmic flame]

spec on 97 so around 117 spec

people upgrade relics into ancient

[turbid oriole]

ohsht

i should stop auto dismantle

[cosmic flame]

it would've had 117 spec 90 crit and 3 lines

so the 350 makes sense for his

fuck off

[turbid oriole]

@nova garden

free steam gift card

@midnight marlin