Hand over thanks
#lost-ark-discussions
high fog
wicked blade
U spend my yearly rent money on one month rent
lol
@queen grailBefore u say anything that one is for parties š§
Or getaway from angry gf
high fog
Rich man has a place just for parties
queen grail
spare home.
Must be nice.
wicked blade
high fog
Fucking whales
wicked blade
<:buhhloon:1158819157199028234> spare home.
Must be nice.
I'm bored
What if I want to go drinking with buddy
And we want to chill and relax
Money is not worth anything in todays inflation
slender sky
normally i would make a murica joke now but its almost as bad in big towns here 
high fog
Hello Mr Canadian
slender sky
wicked blade
Only 250k more gold
Just stop renting mantion and ez
high fog
Bro if I needa become homeless to finish karma im doing something wrong :d
wicked blade
Real
modern grail
its just bad in a lot of countries
fk u arna
high fog
where all the 1680 supports these days 0.o i just wan see numbers
errbod got their 1650s and 60s
wintry depot
fuck you
modern grail
wicked blade
F u Chris
vocal pollen
wtf happened to the teef
wicked blade
I unironically just killed lvl 120 elite mobs while searching for chests
And didn't even notice
wicked blade
<:pepeKEKPoint:944480616026628176>
Wtf is that emoji
high fog
i finally can hit the funny number in behe
slender sky
<:pepeKEKPoint:944480616026628176>
fentanylpepe
thorny olive
i finally can hit the funny number in behe
On arcana?
high fog
theres that esther 9 guy who was smacking like 22s iirc
prob more with a like giga built support
slender sky
<:UGHN:1100697690033106986>
UGHN
slender sky
i love it
slender sky
lunar hedge
memory 19 was interesting
tulip charm
The problem with this skill is 80% crit rate is actually 45%ā¦
Feels like a scam sometimes
neon cedar
memory 19 was interesting
I thought it was kind of fun
a neat toy reward too
#18 was a snoozer
real basin
music box of 
lunar hedge
I'll finish the rest of music box tomorrow
they did stepped up their visual presentation of the story telling. only became apparent in the last few memory sequence of the music box though
slender sky
they did stepped up their visual presentation of the story telling. only became ...
orb 20 seems annoying af so far
lunar hedge
this image is super spoilers. but the visuals just reminds me of Life Is Strange
neon cedar
orb 20 seems annoying af so far
Its not imo. lots of short quests
Oh wait, 20 isnt the last one to do
Yea that ones kind of long but good story
kindred flint
do the arkesia tour growth boosts come around often? just finished the 4 levels of it and it helped me out soooo much
i feel like ive seen em before but idk how often they do happen
tulip charm
ffs sometimes these things take forever to sell
finally sold a bracelet after 3 weeks
tulip charm
i thought it would be worth more
tulip charm
anyone can help me build for a glaivier?
why glavier, when you can play stroker and air juggle them like tekken for 20 seconds instead
gusty shell
idk what upgrade
tulip charm
just hit my bard to 1690 as the 4th 1690
i was already 1684, honing wasn't bad, about 200k + ish, pitied 1 piece, hit another at 72%, the rest was around 20>30% and one of them hit 6%
uncut dirge
just hit my bard to 1690 as the 4th 1690
Grats
high fog
2nd brel bg ive seen
tulip charm
2nd brel bg ive seen
good luck on auction
high fog
someone bought for 240k
tulip charm
month 1 people paid almost a mil for the mvp background lol
high fog
i take my 33k split
tulip charm
someone bought for 240k
we gave one away today in our static for 100k
high fog
i need the moneys more than i need the bg
XD
karma prices have got my gold completely drained
kindred flint
It's a 1 time event to catch up new players
ahhh okay! thanks!
fresh flint
neon cedar
slender sky
fresh flint
slender sky
UGHN
turbid oriole
valid turtle
turbid oriole
cbf to do dailies
fresh flint
fuk smileget
harsh lake
Frownggate lmao
mystic basin
tf happened to discord
vocal pollen
do you mean the quietness, or the update a few days ago
neon cedar
Welcome to the future
I don't mind it tbh. Some things stink but I like some options now
vocal pollen
I like the super dark mode, and how compact things are
fresh flint
Frowngate <:sadge:1104970698226679822>
The new Solo ep drops today
final episode of this season
Then we wait...once again
neon cedar
Watching week to week sucks
fresh flint
It does yeah
neon cedar
I should forget about it for a year and come back
fresh flint
xD
Well that's only gonna be another whole season
I'm wondering if theyll do a movie next or just go to s3
So many animes like to start with movies now instead of s3 right off the bat
neon cedar
I'll forget about it for 5 years then
When I'm 90 I'll watch
One Piece spoiled me for unlimited viewing
abstract shuttle
why are some lazenith wingless?
neon cedar
All of them are
The Haals stole their ark to start shit. The lazs convinced their god to let them use their ark to fight back. All big no-nos
turbid oriole
Cause zosma balls
abstract shuttle
i mean, some of them have wings (but can't fly I think), but there are some lazeniths who just don't have any wings?
neon cedar
As punishment by Regulas, big god #1, the Haals were completely wipes from existence but because he loves teh Lazs a whole lot they got to stay. But their punishment was their wings got clipped and theyre stuck in the sky
real basin
read manhwa or novel, they better than the anime
neon cedar
OGs have em but they're useless. New babies get nothin
real basin
"when do I grow wings?"
turbid oriole
Free punika from the tyrant Nia
real basin
Albion is the true ruler of punika
swift tree
i mean, some of them have wings (but can't fly I think), but there are some laze...
Lazenith born after The Great Reset donāt have wings. Lazeniths that remained in Arkesia lost their grace as well as their wings.
Think like Tolkien Elves.
abstract shuttle
i'm ashamed to admit that i never read or watched lord of the rings š
swift tree
Basically similar lore if God wasnāt an asshole
swift tree
Didn't they cover this in elagcia
They didnāt explicitly tell it, but the details are there.
swift tree
TL;DR Haals got purged, Lazenith got locked up and no longer allowed agency (indoctrinated to believe they have no free will), and Sylvains had their magick made unstable. Everyone who survived the original war had their memories wiped.
Itās quite likely that Kadan isnāt even aware that heās a Haal.
nvm otherwise heād not know about Antares or the Cube
swift tree
During my succulent chinese meal?
Right in front of your salad
swift tree
every day you don't do your dailies, a smilegate dev cries
Good
I hope itās the one that made Voldis Mokokos
4 more hours until last memory orb
real basin
ew memory orb quests
neon cedar
Yes yes, we get it
real basin
swift tree
Its okay. But the music box lore after is more interesting
Well yeah, it seems like it's leading up to stuff to do with that Elgaica reset lol
https://open.spotify.com/album/2N14kgQjNuZLmQXnTGtJux?si=iLKNUwMlSiu33yZdZiTt_A
They finally put some of OST from last year on Spotify
tulip charm
i am bored
nothing left to do in the game except static scorpions
all raids done
neon cedar
Enjoy downtime and play other games
tulip charm
when is poe 0.2 coming
swift tree
play something in your Steam back catalog
vocal pollen
when is poe 0.2 coming
April 4th is when the new stuff launches
vagrant cradle
tulip charm
1 more for Killneza complete
i think i have enough purple packs to max this, but haven't used yet
maybe there is rimeria purple cards you need later, assuming its even selectable from purple selectors
damn, i can finish kileniza, but that only brings me up to 24 thunder support
swift tree
maybe there is rimeria purple cards you need later, assuming its even selectable...
There are and they're a rapport npc and on merchant
tulip charm
I need so many cards still
i thought they increased card drop rates, i got alot on the week they did this, then for the next 2 weeks got complete dogshit, a bunch of echidna duplicate cards
tulip charm
damn wtf, you have almost no brel cards
swift tree
damn wtf, you have almost no brel cards
I havent been running her
vagrant cradle
i don't think either of the supports I usually play with have 18+ on theirs
also isn't 18 for the support set only 1%
wouldnt you have a plan be better then?
vagrant cradle
so 18 with sup 24
hushed vapor
anyone got the graphic with the dmg gain of high/highs mid accessories etc.
hushed vapor
perfect, ty!
safe lark
vagrant cradle
swift tree
dead
real basin
no, game just
swift tree
we're so back
harsh lake
Hard to stay alive when thereās nothing to do but raid
swift tree
Remember when there was complaints about too much daily hw?
surreal gyro
Ye they did ban the bots
People just dont like seeing the true numbers so lets bring back the bots š„°
dull obsidian
I mean
game is slowed down
literally 2h and log off
dailies worth jackshit
restable
swift tree
harsh lake
Small indie company, entry level devs, too hard for them to add side content to do
dull obsidian
Small indie company, entry level devs, too hard for them to add side content to ...
not even the problem
they've wanted to do it multiple times
but faced insane backlash from KR community
they could've ignored them and make side content
but that would take precious resources from raid development!
harsh lake
KR community doesnāt want content?
harsh lake
dull obsidian
every single time SG has tried to add side content, other fun shit
KR community flamed the absolute shit out of them on Inven
now this game is just raid
raid
raid
raidf
harsh lake
So they canāt have raids and fun shit to do
dull obsidian
harsh lake
KR and CN gaming communities really are something else tbh
worldly hawk
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
i've had this since week 2 when the system came out
swift tree
i've had this since week 2 when the system came out
I have rolled purple demons every time
RNG is RNG
worldly hawk
worldly hawk
worldly hawk
i dont see u guys doing box of memories
i won't play the game until next reset caus i'm done for the week 
wicked blade
KR and CN gaming communities really are something else tbh
CN community is not even bad
KR are braindead fucks
surreal gyro
i won't play the game until next reset caus i'm done for the week <:xdduwu:11293...
im done too but im logging
and doing cubes etc
wicked blade
That country should be removed from the map and locked down as a zoo full of monkeys
worldly hawk
surreal gyro
calm down there cowboy
harsh lake
CN community is not even bad
Maybe not for this game
wicked blade
Mostly no
worldly hawk
That country should be removed from the map and locked down as a zoo full of mon...
ayo why so racist
turning into aronnexus
worldly hawk
that is literally the most racist comment i've heard this year
wicked blade
And we go there on vacations
worldly hawk
wicked blade
Well they can suck it with scam frog @worldly hawk
harsh lake
CN community terrible for a lot of other games though lol
wicked blade
They deserve it
Scam frog, AH 20-40
Nerfing gold
While adding gold boxes behind newest raid
If u ask me, I said nothing wrong
surreal gyro
whats bad about 20-40 ah?
wicked blade
surreal gyro
what gold did they nerf
surreal gyro
are you talking about the gold nerfs in KR ?
wicked blade
We get those, just on delay
surreal gyro
no we dont
surreal gyro
our gold rewards are completely different to what KR has
wicked blade
surreal gyro
yes they should
surreal gyro
KR had AH 1-20 reduced by 50% on mats and 20% on gold
ofc they have to nerf the gold from older raids
to make people push
they have people camping at 1640-1660 for 1 year
surreal gyro
This is basic game economics my guy
u dont understand what a gold nerf actually means and why they do it
surreal gyro
^_^ go for it its always nice living in a bubble
worldly hawk
<@258298198878191616> Do u by any chance have this guy on block aswell?
who
wicked blade
The Ex something guy
faint grove
smartest angle to force people to push is to nerf gold but compensate with an equivalent amount of bound fusions
wicked blade
smartest angle to force people to push is to nerf gold but compensate with an eq...
Yet they don't
surreal gyro
smartest angle to force people to push is to nerf gold but compensate with an eq...
they did that with the AH nerf
faint grove
not the same
surreal gyro
by logging
wicked blade
And it is mostly bound
surreal gyro
?
wicked blade
Tell me Sherlock
worldly hawk
yes, and?
uncut dirge
one of these days
wicked blade
10k energy is like 10minutes
And u have unlimited life energy?
surreal gyro
u have people who complain but they dont wanna play the game
wicked blade
surreal gyro
And u have unlimited life energy?
you can if you use mari shop
worldly hawk
And u have unlimited life energy?
uh yes i do? because it regens ever 2 days?
wicked blade
@surreal gyro Shut the fuck up
worldly hawk
surreal gyro
<@256707136275480576> Shut the fuck up
sue me
wicked blade
uh yes i do? because it regens ever 2 days?
Yeah, problem is when they nerf gold income + make it bound gold
surreal gyro
you buy the pot from mari shop and you make that money back by seslling the T3 log mats
surreal gyro
yes it does matter
wicked blade
If they nerf gold and don't increase mats income
worldly hawk
So it doesn't matter if they nerfed AH
stop coping
surreal gyro
if they dont nerf gold and they nerf AH 1-20
wicked blade
You are pretty much at the same gold cost as before as AH
wicked blade
Nerfed gold by 20%, nerfed AH by 20%
worldly hawk
raven imma be honest with you, if you continue to ragebait and doom
you're next on my blocklist
wicked blade
Only mats are more nerfed
surreal gyro
u fail to understand the idea behind the gold nerfs and youre very shortsighted
wicked blade
Unless u want to go full bound honing
surreal gyro
thats the most polite i can be with u
wicked blade
Gold nerf affects u
uncut dirge
if they dont nerf gold and they nerf AH 1-20
ok
and what's the problem with that
i understand the idea behind gold nerfs
so SG can make more money
because gold is more scarce so people swipe more
worldly hawk
so SG can make more money
it's always about the money
uncut dirge
i've yet to have one of the inflation doomers explain to me why inflation is terrible
surreal gyro
Gold nerfs are there to make people go up in the progression tier
worldly hawk
so people like raven can spend more $ on the game
surreal gyro
i've yet to have one of the inflation doomers explain to me why inflation is ter...
because you gold is less valuable
faint grove
its also about stopping inflatiion these rat 1640s are causing
worldly hawk
caus they fomo
uncut dirge
Gold nerfs are there to make people go up in the progression tier
by making it harder to actually go up in progression tier?
uncut dirge
They are not making it hard
it's harder to hone 1585 -> 1620 now based on the gold that character earns today than it was when those raids were new
uncut dirge
and the same is gonna be true for the 1640 -> 1670 bracket at least
after we get the gold nerfs
surreal gyro
T4 is 10 months old in KR
faint grove
it's harder to hone 1585 -> 1620 now based on the gold that character earns toda...
with how much red fusions and shit cost back then that is quite simply not true
uncut dirge
i think even 1680 is harder since you know
-20% gold cost on advanced honing != -45% on echidna, -40% on behe
uncut dirge
with how much red fusions and shit cost back then that is quite simply not true
but that's a lack of life skilling
surreal gyro
-50% mats
uncut dirge
life skilling is something you trade with other players
wicked blade
with how much red fusions and shit cost back then that is quite simply not true
Raw gold from 1580-1620 is still issue
uncut dirge
so if you're losing on red fusion mat cost
somebody else is winning (another player)
faint grove
its also -50% fusions which is a large portion of adv honing gold cost aswell
uncut dirge
yes
surreal gyro
^
faint grove
so its more or less equal in that sense
faint grove
it is now though
surreal gyro
but advanced honing is not how you do 1640 -> 1670
thats based on market plices and the cost no?
surreal gyro
there u go
uncut dirge
when i ran them is when we got the info
surreal gyro
so lets not doom
uncut dirge
but i'm pretty sure 11->20 is still too expensive to do for 1680
uncut dirge
also i'd like to remind everyone that these gold nerfs
faint grove
but i'm pretty sure 11->20 is still too expensive to do for 1680
think you're right yeah
uncut dirge
also nerf the gold earning of the characters stuck in 1585 -> 1620
low nebula
but i'm pretty sure 11->20 is still too expensive to do for 1680
500k in goldge, prob cheapest ilvls there but stil not free
wicked blade
also nerf the gold earning of the characters stuck in 1585 -> 1620
What do u mean
That will make people push faster
uncut dirge
What do u mean
ivory and thaemine normal make less gold
uncut dirge
i get where @surreal gyro is coming from
worthy horizon
is double dipping world boss / chaos gate still in the game with daylight saving?
uncut dirge
but smilegate is very bad at "housekeeping" to fix the honing costs
surreal gyro
theyre mistake is the 1580=1620 dead zone yes
uncut dirge
and other problems that gold nerfs have caused
surreal gyro
the thing is that KR has a massive bussing/opa service issue
uncut dirge
and based on their history i dont believe they will ever get on top of that
surreal gyro
they need to get rid of these 1640 rats
uncut dirge
people that fall behind somehow always lose out
but anyway, i don't think inflation is nearly as bad as people make it out to be
rocky plume
they need to get rid of these 1640 rats
uncut dirge
the less gold is worth the cheaper honing is
wicked blade
<:Susge:1065387133990355014>
Vora is in danger
surreal gyro
the thing is that they wont do that in the west
they will nerf gold but add bound gold
to compensate
so it wont be nearly as bad here anyway
and also our brel and aegir give in fact more gold than KR has
real basin
nerfing gold income in older raids isn't about controlling inflation, it's so they can keep moving their fomo window, 1620 is bait and 1660-1680 will become bait as the gold you can earn before those breakpoints gets nerfed more and more, the intention is for you to swipe through them, not actually play the game, and people buy the inflation justification
wicked blade
Exactly
rocky plume
1640 is the best spot
surreal gyro
No you actually dont understand
how much gold 1640s are making
were making, before the nerf
wicked blade
IT IS LITERALLY WHAT IT IS
surreal gyro
its there to make people go up the tier
surreal gyro
You are just extremely biased
in a negative way
u dont wanna play the game
u dont want to put the effort
low nebula
IT IS LITERALLY WHAT IT IS
no its not
fear
of
missing
out
is not "if you get higher you get better shit"
wicked blade
Me with my 1600-1680 in 5 weeks full ancient and all raids done.
Yeah, I don't want to play
I didn't skip single daily
Yes, I don't want to play
Shut up.
swift tree
o_o
surreal gyro
Then dont complain
wicked blade
???
surreal gyro
when osmeone if logging or farming fusions
and u dont
cause u dont wanna play more
wicked blade
I can complain because I want game to get better
surreal gyro
simple as that
wicked blade
Go shill on reddit
low nebula
I didn't skip single daily
i didnt skip single daily for 4 month on x6 chars on t4 release
stil playing
wicked blade
Or official
low nebula
Go shill on reddit
go bitch on reddit
or official
wicked blade
Ye, LOA is great game, so great that KR community was on fire about some SG decisions
surreal gyro
bro KR is literally a shitshow
worldly hawk
<@258298198878191616> Yup, u are right
i agree with him wdym
surreal gyro
we have had 10x better stuff than KR
wicked blade
They just need to remove jail from raids and make u redo the raid if u get jailed
And gg ez
Reduction in busses
And make busses illegal
Problem solved
surreal gyro
yes i agree with u that they shud change the lockout
low nebula
They just need to remove jail from raids and make u redo the raid if u get jaile...
yea and shoot watch parties
surreal gyro
but its not as simple as that
worldly hawk
Ye, LOA is great game, so great that KR community was on fire about some SG deci...
bro if you're so unhappy about the game, uninstall and play something else
literally nobody here cares
worldly hawk
go make a reddit post or something and stop beeing a dumbass
worldly hawk
And this is exactly why LOA is bleeding players
if i don't enjoy a game i don't play it, maybe you should do the same.
low nebula
"make busses illegal"
really ez actually, hire 1 gm employee per realm and they shoot everyone who does it they can find
literally on second day everyone would stop
swift tree
Just make raid loot one-time bestow (weekly), you have to earn 1 before earning 2 etc. and remove locks.
Crackdown on Bussing/Rice-accounts and bamn, game quality goes way up
worldly hawk
really ez actually, hire 1 gm employee per realm and they shoot everyone who doe...
this
wicked blade
really ez actually, hire 1 gm employee per realm and they shoot everyone who doe...
I mean realistically they only need like 9 people max
8h shift
3 shifts
worldly hawk
literally one employee that monitors the ingame PF
wicked blade
Monitor lobbies
low nebula
Monitor lobbies
if they have 1 dude going from real to realm, nobody would risk account knowing he might be there
wicked blade
if they have 1 dude going from real to realm, nobody would risk account knowing ...
Also true, yup
low nebula
you dotn need to police it 24/7 its not bots
its real people accounts on another side, they are not endless
they make news and shoot everyone next day by hand
day after that nobody would do it
worldly hawk
set an example maybe by banning known bussers
low nebula
nah
worldly hawk
So they need to ban Henry?
yep
low nebula
thats banning cos new law, its unconsitutional in all countries
you never get shot if something become illegal after you did it
wicked blade
Yup
low nebula
thats not how laws work, neither ingame TOS
at same patch where they make busing illegal and punished, fix jails automatically send rewards if you DC and they cleared/ or give tickets out
normal people would not care
cos those garbage fuck you systems there cos of busing
keen copper
low nebula
right now getting out of alaric gives you 3 tickets - one per gate
wicked blade
Cuz of bussing is dumbest yake possible
low nebula
so you can reset any of it and try again, join any lobby
surreal gyro
do u know why bussing became an issue?
wicked blade
Gold positive
surreal gyro
because they made T4 contnet much more easy
wicked blade
Ye, I dislike it aswell
low nebula
do u know why bussing became an issue?
yea, but i dont think game should be harder much tho
surreal gyro
of no matter what AGS does, theere will always an abuse of some point
wicked blade
No, it is because Lost Ark is only game that I know of where taking a bus is a gold positive
low nebula
of no matter what AGS does, theere will always an abuse of some point
there always be crime, so lets disband police
surreal gyro
no what im trying to say is
that there is never going to be a perfect solution
like for example ignite servers
low nebula
perfect is enemy of good, good is good enough for me
surreal gyro
or giving non-trsuted accounts the pwoerpass
swift tree
If raids locks weren't so stupidly done, there'd be enough people willing to just straight up HELP others that busses would be undercut but actual free runs
wicked blade
Usually busses are gold negative where u trade gold for progression.
In Lost Ark u get the progression and gold. U see the issue? @surreal gyro
surreal gyro
Usually busses are gold negative where u trade gold for progression.
In Lost Ar...
they asre positive because everyone is doing them so they undercut each other
low nebula
they asre positive because everyone is doing them so they undercut each other
cos its easier to buss something then kill it in real lobby
uncut dirge
PL was such a dumb idea
wicked blade
When u can just buy a bus
low nebula
if they not there to hit red counter we would clear kind of thing
wicked blade
PL was such a dumb idea
Also this garbage
uncut dirge
people refusing to join normal lobbies because of PL crap is dumb
swift tree
cos its easier to buss something then kill it in real lobby
You don't have to contend with systems like Transcendence, Elixirs, Gems and other side systems in order to join a bus.
wicked blade
people refusing to join normal lobbies because of PL crap is dumb
Yuuuup
Thank SG for that
They quite literally incentivise and force people to take busses
low nebula
You don't have to contend with systems like Transcendence, Elixirs, Gems and oth...
well those systems there cos game has only 1 progression system - gold
and its same for every level braket
swift tree
yup
uncut dirge
like legit
we just had a full lobby
we are ready to go into normal brel
mix of 1680s and 1670s
uncut dirge
and guy's like "lmfao nobody here has PL" and then left
wicked blade
People are denying PW aswell
wicked blade
And want PL/PB
swift tree
and guy's like "lmfao nobody here has PL" and then left
shame on Reddit
keen copper
Pw 
surreal gyro
i dont know why people hate PL
uncut dirge
i saw him
surreal gyro
if they didnt have PL people would ask for x10
wicked blade
i dont know why people hate PL
Cuz ego.
surreal gyro
i had only 1 chara able to do brel on launch week and PL saved me from a lot of problems actually
wicked blade
Whoever has PL, instant deny.
surreal gyro
yes
uncut dirge
just because they had a char at 1690 on the first 2 weeks
wicked blade
Lets be real, busses in LOA will always exist whatever u do
Because of gatekeeping standards
swift tree
if they didnt have PL people would ask for x10
Time gated HARD MODE title for an easy version of the raid.
You really can't see why gatekeeping based on PL is fucking stupid?
wicked blade
Time gated HARD MODE title for an easy version of the raid.
You really can't see...
Yuuuup
surreal gyro
Time gated HARD MODE title for an easy version of the raid.
You really can't see...
what's the alternative
x10 week1?
uncut dirge
it gets extra spicy when people use PL for raids like aegir and echid
swift tree
x10 week1?
Stop being a whiny bitch and play the game with strangers
surreal gyro
thats just people being stupid
wicked blade
Ye, time gated title for whales
low nebula
bro just joined "g1-g2 reclear" hard lobby with mostly pls and outdpsed all bozos
wicked blade
Required for raids that are 50ilvls below
surreal gyro
i got it week 1 but pugged 25h total
low nebula
g1 is impossible
wicked blade
Good job, and what about people who don't have 1690 will all 8's?
Which is majority?
low nebula
Good job, and what about people who don't have 1690 will all 8's?
3 lvl 8 everything else 7 1690 is not whale for main
surreal gyro
on G1
wicked blade
It is time gated title. It is a fucking problem
uncut dirge
it's not a question of time
it's that a lot of people weren't there on ilvl requirements
low nebula
It is time gated title. It is a fucking problem
and they would do it again
and i would be there
wicked blade
Echidna G1-G2 fast skip / PL
low nebula
on two chars now
wicked blade
Nice lobbies.
dull obsidian
week one is totaly whale run
huh
surreal gyro
Echidna G1-G2 fast skip / PL
thats people being r** man
swift tree
"I didn't spend $200 to be at a certain item level within this 2 week period so I'm permanently ass-reamed by the player community because they are too stupid to understand how linear time works"
dull obsidian
No books
Full 8
+22 wp average
on ilvl average
swift tree
low nebula
week 1 we cleared with upper end gear
we?
surreal gyro
Yes i cleared G1 with pugs but we didnt have any whales
worldly hawk
surreal gyro
just 1700s 8lvl gems and no books
wicked blade
"I didn't spend $200 to be at a certain item level within this 2 week period so ...
Yeah...
meager hill
x1-x5 can get to lobby ez
x1-x5 doesn't matter, if you don't have x10 or other P title, you only get in if a friend brings you in, or if you have big gems
low nebula
good enough for offseason
swift tree
if you couldn't clear week 1
Honing was the issue, not doing the raid itself, Ishy
surreal gyro
can u explain to me
uncut dirge
ishy with the amazing takes again
wicked blade
"Good enough" i would agree if it was not mmorpg
dull obsidian
Honing was the issue, not doing the raid itself, Ishy
they are talkign about difficulty
I am too talking about difficulty
surreal gyro
Like why do we always go to steam cahrts to prove a point
if we had bots and it was 40k
what would be the point
swift tree
they are talkign about difficulty
Exuberance or others?
low nebula
x1-x5 doesn't matter, if you don't have x10 or other P title, you only get in if...
into hard you get in on ilvl, into normal no
dull obsidian
Crierr
swift tree
ah
wicked blade
@surreal gyro
meager hill
into hard you get in on ilvl, into normal no
ah sure, on hard on ilvl is w/e, but on nm it's ggs
low nebula
without jederiko g1 is really really hard
surreal gyro
<@256707136275480576>
yes? BDO has a ton of AFK - farming
dull obsidian
no it wasn't
surreal gyro
and its a very casual MMO
dull obsidian
What was hard was you all inting fucking patterns and spawning eggs
its prog
thats always what happens week 1
after everyone stop eating bullshit
the raid got 2x easier
even with no jederico
surreal gyro
^ true
swift tree
after everyone stop eating bullshit
also everyone was out of the "2 meters only" limit by unlocking the battle item
wicked blade
I will go chill out and WuWa and PoE2
dull obsidian
like had 99% of prog groups
surreal gyro
I will go chill out and WuWa and PoE2
bro just enjoy the downtime, Act3 and Kazeros will take time to learn, why dont u just appreciate the free time
dull obsidian
the jumps everyone ate with DR and eventually it gave more gauge than ephernia reducing gauge
swift tree
bro just enjoy the downtime, Act3 and Kazeros will take time to learn, why dont ...
The problem is many just choose not to come back
dull obsidian
so you started spawning eggs making 2nd shield literally impossible to break
wicked blade
bro just enjoy the downtime, Act3 and Kazeros will take time to learn, why dont ...
Well I do? I play other games while waiting for Rimeria
low nebula
ah sure, on hard on ilvl is w/e, but on nm it's ggs
well it makes sence right, 1670 is kinda expensive for garbage alt sup to get into, so sups which are there are contested with 1689 and who would accept 1670 instead.
Before wildsouls there were no issuess with sups on brel normal, i did x4 week two or three and keep bringing alts cos there was dps shortage
and then it flipped cos everyone made a blade/se/wildsoul and got insta 1670
swift tree
well it makes sence right, 1670 is kinda expensive for garbage alt sup to get in...
meanwhile I'd have 4 Brel-ready supps if we got Adv Honing change this week
dull obsidian
you can hone to 1670 without doing AH
swift tree
I could but would rather do it via AH 1-10 after the adjustment
surreal gyro
The problem is many just choose not to come back
okey and? the game shud be pumping ontenet every 2 months so we dont lose players? thats unrealistic
uncut dirge
poe made content every 4 months
surreal gyro
u cant compare PoE to an MMORPG
swift tree
poe made content every 4 months
different kind of content, apples to oranges
uncut dirge
and hit record numbers recently, while being like a 14 year old game
PoE and lost ark are VERY similar games
swift tree
PoE and lost ark are VERY similar games
superficially
surreal gyro
they are not
uncut dirge
they have an absolutely huge overlap in players
dull obsidian
seasonal game vs pure live service
swift tree
they have an absolutely huge overlap in players
So does League of Legends, which has zero similarity on content design
wicked blade
The problem is many just choose not to come back
Probably, if PoE2 is a banger
LOA is no more
I'm uninstalling
uncut dirge
league is just a massive game, so it makes sense to have overlap
poe definitely wasn't/isn't
dull obsidian
LOA is no more
surreal gyro
There are PoE gamers that Enjoy Lost Ark that's true, but this dsnt mean the games are comparable
dull obsidian
PoE IS A SEASONAL GAME
surreal gyro
i have friends who came from PoE and this was their first MMO
uncut dirge
yes, poe is a seasonal game
wicked blade
poe definitely wasn't/isn't
Huh? Tell that to my month streight 16h a day PoE2 addiction
uncut dirge
and there's nothing preventing an mmo from doing the same
look at runescape
or wow
tall mango
I did my first guardian raid since i came back
dull obsidian
lost ark will never be seasonal gg
tall mango
It was nice
surreal gyro
Ok but why does lsot ark have to become
swift tree
I did my first guardian raid since i came back <:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
which one?
surreal gyro
what others are?
uncut dirge
i mean it's their loss if they never make it seasonal
surreal gyro
Lost Ark was always going to be a grinder* MMO
tall mango
which one?
The green birdie
uncut dirge
lost ark is not a rginder MMO though
swift tree
The green birdie
bin chicken!!
dull obsidian
how is it not a grinder mmo?
tall mango
Deskaluda
dull obsidian
what
uncut dirge
lost ark's systems are a response to grinder MMOs
worldly hawk
lost ark is not a rginder MMO though
bro what it's the grindiest MMO there is
uncut dirge
grinder MMOs are the ones where you can go farm mobs 24/7 endlessly getting loot
surreal gyro
huh
errant fable
Grinding all the mokokos
worldly hawk
what are you on about
dull obsidian
bro what it's the grindiest MMO there is
actually no its not
uncut dirge
lost ark has specific limits to how much you can "grind"
dull obsidian
but its pretty grindy
lol
you are spending hours a week for minimal gain
that is grinding
dailies
wicked blade
bro what it's the grindiest MMO there is
Warframe
uncut dirge
early to late 2000s of KR MMOs were the grindy ariant
uncut dirge
then they introduced limits to grinding like daily stamine and what not
turned out that increased player retention so it became much more common
swift magnet
give more stuff to do. not only raids š
low nebula
attention citizens
low nebula
tall mango
It's one per day right? It's a bit sad... I liked it
swift tree
get mcfucked
wicked blade
give more stuff to do. not only raids š
KR would throw a tantrum
uncut dirge
like 2005 KR MMO you go and grind 8 hours in a day gain 8% xp, then die and lose 2%
errant fable
swift tree
It's one per day right? It's a bit sad... I liked it
it used to be x2 a day but doing x12 got unrealistic
surreal gyro
that's just BDO
Grind comes in many ways, in Themepark MMOs like Blade and Soul / Tera / Lost Ark
storm bronze
uncut dirge
that's just BDO
well yeah, those are the grindy MMOs
wicked blade
like 2005 KR MMO you go and grind 8 hours in a day gain 8% xp, then die and lose...
Oh I forgot about that shit
surreal gyro
Grind is doing dungeons weekly all the time to progrress
uncut dirge
lost ark is something else
tall mango
it used to be x2 a day but doing x12 got unrealistic
aaaaaaah i tought so. Thanks
uncut dirge
it just turns out that when you put "reachable" limits on a game
surreal gyro
Its just a different type of grind
uncut dirge
people feel they have to do all of it to not fall behind
surreal gyro
what stops you from making 25 characters and farm chaos dungeons?
wicked blade
Guys, no Korean mmo doesn"t come close to Warframe grindfest
uncut dirge
whereas pure grind they are okay with dipping out and coming back when they feel like it
tall mango
Are those tradable from guardians?
uncut dirge
what stops you from making 25 characters and farm chaos dungeons?
because chaos is boring
if chaos was as interesting as poe maps i'd do it
storm bronze
lost ark is 99% boring except raids
swift tree
Are those tradable from guardians?
the ones from guardians are, yes
wicked blade
lost ark is 99% boring except raids <:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
Real
uncut dirge
it's wild to me that smilegate doesn't seem to get
tall mango
the ones from guardians are, yes
Hmmm... okay thanks
uncut dirge
that waiting for monster spawns that are absolutely no threat to you
surreal gyro
if chaos was as interesting as poe maps i'd do it
thats very subjective tho you cant judge how grindy a game is based on if you like it or not xD
swift tree
lost ark is 99% boring except raids <:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
-> story driven MMO
-> plays despite disliking narratively driven content
uncut dirge
is not an interesting piece of gameplay
storm bronze
story in lost ark ?
storm bronze
real basin
okey and? the game shud be pumping ontenet every 2 months so we dont lose player...
having content droughts is fine, issue is taking a break from loa means the grind/swipe to come back means people just quit instead, in other games when there's nothing to do you just come back in 6 months and there's stuff to do, but that's hyper banned in loa because it would be too non-whale friendly
tall mango
story in lost ark ? <:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
Dude the story is aweome wtf you on
surreal gyro
xD
uncut dirge
lost ark might have an interesting story to tell
but it's by far the worst GAME i've seen at telling a story
it's legit just a book
no gameplay involved in the story
storm bronze
looks like it has been written by a 12y old
swift tree
story in lost ark ? <:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
narrative driven i.e. it's designed and constructed via the themes and motifs used in the game's narrative.
shit like Guardian Raids being based on the Guardians waking up, Chaos Dungeons based on the Dimensional Rift,
Legion Raids being based on the Commander story arc in reawakening the Red Moon etc.
uncut dirge
meh people can like whatever story they like
i just don't like that there's no gameplay with the story
swift tree
it's legit just a book
that's how MMOs usually do it though, with FFXIV being an exception
uncut dirge
like all the story content is completely and utterly trivial
i don't think that's true
surreal gyro
having content droughts is fine, issue is taking a break from loa means the grin...
if u have content drought and u are caught up why cant u take a break and come back exactly?
uncut dirge
i died multiple times during wow story questing
mostly because it turned out some party quests were a bit hard to solo
but it could happen
swift tree
they don't just spoon-feed details, they build the game based around it.
uncut dirge
some of the quests also sent me into real dungeons
with real enemies too
lost ark has great combat
swift tree
some of the quests also sent me into real dungeons
Yeah so does LOTRO, ESO, SWTOR and many other MMOs.
Lost Ark used to before they rebalanced the game.
uncut dirge
and story combat is "i cast 1 skill and the mob dies"
"i cast 3 skills and the boss dies"
surreal gyro
lost ark lore presentation remidns me of dark souls a bit
u find lore pieces around the world
the game dsnt tell u about them
uncut dirge
i'm fine with that
swift tree
u find lore pieces around the world
called Ludonarrative
surreal gyro
i bought the lore book from KR
uncut dirge
i just want the lore to consist of fun gameplay
surreal gyro
and the amount of work
uncut dirge
like solo raid level content at least
uncut dirge
give it a pity system where if you fail it gets easier
dull obsidian
having content droughts is fine, issue is taking a break from loa means the grin...
if you are caught up on ilvl you can literally take a break if you have lvl 7 gems LOS 30
uncut dirge
that's a great way of missing the next PL
dull obsidian
if you cannot clear the next raid with lvl 7 gems and LOS 30 on ilvl
idk what to say to you other than you're shit
lmao
surreal gyro
oh right
speaking of which
so now with Act 3 coming on early june probably
dont tell me u cant be caught up at 1700
and prepared
for the title week 1/2
tall mango
the ones from guardians are, yes
Hmmm.... Maybe i can buy hem in AH actually
uncut dirge
hey
you know how soulfist has that red auto attack
instead of the usual blue or whatever
does the red one do any more damage
dull obsidian
the game is handing you an extra 200 leaps, 80k shards, 20000 blues and 10000 reds a week through just doing the raid
low nebula
Are those tradable from guardians?
yep
dull obsidian
Not even including natural raid bound drop
Not even including raid gate boxes being bought
low nebula
Are those tradable from guardians?
you do unas?
uncut dirge
oh yeah i know
tall mango
you do unas?
yes i do. Especially those with the stones here
uncut dirge
i just forgot about it since it's not been relevant to me since before the game launched
dull obsidian
and apply bleed/poison
low nebula
yes i do. Especially those with the stones here
x3 per day 5 stones each right?
tall mango
tall mango
x3 per day 5 stones each right?
yes
wind dagger
swift tree
yeah they're 1460+ so they have access to Elgacia leaps
tall mango
WTH!
tall mango
it melted... I had 700k LOOOOL
surreal gyro
Are you using books?
tall mango
Are you using books?
Nope
tall mango
same character?
wdym?
surreal gyro
the solo vendor has books use them they increase your honing chance and your pitty meter
tall mango
you should use books
I 2 tap them for now. I'm kinda lucky
dull obsidian
books are also 1-50g each on ah
low nebula
Yas, i'll do after doing the main quest <:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
oh its 1490+ tho, so little bit later