You buy 1585 to skip akkan grind
#lost-ark-discussions
vapid bluff
and it doesnt cost any more to buy 1585 and then later buy 1600
as opposed to buying straight to 1600
vapid bluff
Thres also no real benefit to being 1600
fringe whale
regardless it's real money saved
if you live in usa 20$ doesn't sound to bad for 1585
the time you spent grinding to 1585 can be time working 
fresh flint
There's no benefit in 1585 either. 1600 just saves you more gold
Akkan being a t3 raid , and old at that... they should have considered giving more akkan eyes so long ago
5 weeks is dumb
vapid bluff
mhm
fresh flint
if you live in usa 20$ doesn't sound to bad for 1585
I live in usa, it's all ab perspective. If you don't mind waiting around for 5 weeks then its nbd. I've bought plenty pp myself.
As is, i'm spending the 5 weeks to do it xD
vocal pollen
need 300 Akkan eyes for full set, 44 from solo + buying chests per week
- solo mode shop
takes so long
vapid bluff
did you see how pathetic the event chest is for 1600
They are doing everything in their power to prevent people from getting into t4 easily
like bro?
fringe whale
need 300 Akkan eyes for full set, 44 from solo + buying chests per week
btw it be like this from now on or am i doing something wrong
vocal pollen
btw it be like this from now on or am i doing something wrong<:UwU:9226214201634...
???
fringe whale
.
vocal pollen
I mean, weapon taps aren't cheap at that stage
20% artisan does sound a bit low tho
fresh flint
Yeah and you're tapping in t4 at that
Welcome to endgame honing
It'll be ass from now on
vocal pollen
why so many people rat at 1640 
fresh flint
Cheap fuckers
vapid bluff
10 leaps is fucking crazy
Its really funny that the ivory tower 1610 chest is a billion times worse than the thaemine chest, when they are both the same item level
vocal pollen
and also why they're nerfing AH lul
fresh flint
The 5:1 conversion makes me want to stroke out
fringe whale
It'll be ass from now on
aight i feel better now, honing from 1640 to 1650 felt so easy, that i felt that i was doing something wrong
fresh flint
14k lmao
vapid bluff
14k shards, you shouldnt have smilegate
no really, you shouldnt have!
how generous of them
fresh flint
aight i feel better now, honing from 1640 to 1650 felt so easy, that i felt that...
Naw, 1640 is just the beginning of t4 essentially. 1650 to 1660 wont be HORRIBLE - but it will still be a tad pricy.
fringe whale
no really, you shouldnt have!
Don't let it be that that players have fun playing :d
fresh flint
1640 is giga smoothe to get out of thankfuilly
vapid bluff
i saw people earlier saying that people are ungrateful for complaining about the chest event, and its "better than nothing"
fresh flint
Don't let it be that that players have fun playing :d
You will need roughly this much to get 1660 from 1650
swift tree
Biggest cost of 1640-1660 is oreha and blue/red crystals
swift tree
and the new shop feels honestly bad
Whale bait
vapid bluff
im not talking about frog
vocal pollen
was referring to Yzka's comment
swift tree
i saw people earlier saying that people are ungrateful for complaining about the...
They way they phrased it in notes sounded like Solo would get extra materials and possibly eyes in solo echidna
swift tree
Old Frog was 1.5k per chest
vapid bluff
They way they phrased it in notes sounded like Solo would get extra materials an...
What does solo echidna do for the majority of new players stuck in t3
swift tree
What does solo echidna do for the majority of new players stuck in t3
fuck all ngl
Akkan gear needed honing rates adjustments last year but KR version dragging the rest of us
vapid bluff
Because KR spends money and asks questions after
swift tree
1640 Rice farming fears screwing entire fucking game
fringe whale
You will need roughly this much to get 1660 from 1650
200k just from taps doesn't sounds so bad, the problem is the materials 
swift tree
What does solo echidna do for the majority of new players stuck in t3
silver elixirs dropping in the Tower chests would be nice
vapid bluff
thaemine extra chest should have 100k weekly honor shards in it if they refuse to nerf the costs
not fuckin 15k
fringe whale
should i buy the materials in the market or just farm daily from events and front kurzan
fresh flint
200k just from taps doesn't sounds so bad, the problem is the materials <:deadge...
It’s not terrible. It just takes a little time.
vapid bluff
1640 -1660 was pretty chill for me
fresh flint
Should definitely do life skills to make your own orehas
fringe whale
It’s not terrible. It just takes a little time.
just need to get a little lucky, i have pity every piece am not getting out of this in months
fresh flint
And by the time you hit 1660 you’ll have aegir gear to farm so honing won’t be top of the list unless you want to rush 1670 for Brel
swift tree
just need to get a little lucky, i have pity every piece am not getting out of t...
only thing we can suggest is just use books and cube support drops and hope
swift tree
And by the time you hit 1660 you’ll have aegir gear to farm so honing won’t be t...
And at this point that's just wait until April for the Adv honing QoL
swift tree
6 more taps and my main raiders get out of Thaemine
fringe whale
only thing we can suggest is just use books and cube support drops and hope
i dont think i have anywhere else to get books from
swift tree
i dont think i have anywhere else to get books from
solo shop
or is that T4 you're trying to hone?
fringe whale
I have a bunch of those
but i was keeping them for adh
should i use them now for normal hone?
swift tree
even doing half juice for normal honing cuts it down by a third, we're getting a decent amount that you'll able to build some level of them back up over the next month
swift tree
ok then ill use them next time i try to hone
in similar spot (GL is parked whilst he does Transcendence)
ancient tundra
Ayaya 
swift tree
Ayaya <:AnisSUSeyebrows:1139268325831102605>
I have one of each support that I had in main 6, killed bard during Akkan and Artist I play because the skills are actually fun
swift tree
Bard just a fate ember farmer
fringe whale
in similar spot (GL is parked whilst he does Transcendence)
at least i have all my trans +21 now
spent alot of gold on that
fresh flint
6 more taps and my main raiders get out of Thaemine
What’s your mains ilvl?
swift tree
What’s your mains ilvl?
1685
swift tree
they'd be 1695 if Adv 11-20 was done
fresh flint
Yeah I need it too
swift tree
would rather entire 6 no longer doing a 1 year old raid :<
swift tree
oh another MMO did server merges, and one of my characters lost their name.
@ancient tundra
dumbass discord tagging
swift tree
swift tree
blocked by an actually competent chat filter
ancient tundra
swift tree
say gex
tulip charm
Also this is the worst frog i think we've ever had no?
it is the worst one so far i think yes
i really thought there was gonna be adv gold scrolls 11>20 in the frog
instead they added that to the f4 shop today
vapid bluff
What are the recommended una dailies for leaps
dawn yacht
real basin
does loa do an april fool's event? thought it'd be funny to give out "guaranteed? success honing stones" that always fail and "questionable relic selector pouches" that blow up and disintegrate when you select an engraving book
vapid bluff
Are you a psychopath
tawny lion
I have very little to no joy completing raids these days
zealous lintel
I have very little to no joy completing raids these days <:deadge:10467487348070...
3 of my static members feel the same
they turned the game of yesterday right after the static brel hm run
tawny lion
3 of my static members feel the same
I’m not saying mhwilds is perfect but every boss I do have fun fighting it. Lost ark I am feeling numb even on different characters
zealous lintel
well mh wilds is new so there is that
pve games will eventually get stale
its just the nature of it
to top it of, there is no inovation regarding content. Everything which has been proposed by SG got shutdown by the korean player base
real basin
Are you a psychopath
nah, april fool's is supposed to be when players get trolled, if only that wasn't every event lately
tulip charm
does loa do an april fool's event? thought it'd be funny to give out "guaranteed...
they fucked up, should have released frog on april 1st
uncut dirge
it is the worst one so far i think yes
it's gonna be a shitty frog by virtue of people not caring about cards already
uncut dirge
yeah
you and your friends might see it that way
not the community
most people aren't gonna get enough cards to get anything out of them by the time the raids are out
swift tree
yep
tulip charm
it's gonna be a shitty frog by virtue of people not caring about cards already
i will keep buying the card frog
zealous lintel
tbf, the community doent know what it wants most of the time
tulip charm
i need the selector bag and selector pack still, no other way to get it except frog tokens
dull obsidian
they turned the game of yesterday right after the static brel hm run
Raids are complete in a day
they can do it whenever lmao
tulip charm
i am done with all raids except 2 on the main, last aegir and brel hm tmrw
dull obsidian
most of our huge group static is just playin destiny 2, league, maplestory and some other games now
we finish our shit
dailies on rest
afk 90m a ady
zealous lintel
Yeah, but they are just straight up closing the game after one raid done out of 18
dull obsidian
reasonable
tulip charm
would have been done today, but static had to push the brel to tmrw
swift tree
I got 1 Aegir left then the rest I do solo
zealous lintel
the game is stale/stagnant
dull obsidian
real
zealous lintel
and not cause of "more raid releases"
dull obsidian
this game has nothing out of raiding
uncut dirge
it's because smilegate's been removing content instead of reworking it
zealous lintel
this game has nothing out of raiding
exactly
uncut dirge
they've always been very slow at adding content
zealous lintel
eh
dull obsidian
its partly SG's fault
zealous lintel
they can add content slowley
dull obsidian
its mainly Korean player mentality
zealous lintel
its just raids on top of raids
swift tree
It's because you need to farm raids we've had for a year now to get anywhere close to new ones and the new ones aren't worth doing because of how toxic the veterans are. no long-term stuff because they release one horizontal piece of content a year
uncut dirge
they can add content slowley
but they remove it
zealous lintel
there is literally nothing to do beside raids and your gathering skill energy
swift tree
because Global has better options for social games
dull obsidian
Imagine..
If this game had other things to do\
It already has the best combat available
thats why so many of us are here still
uncut dirge
platinum fields - removed!
swift tree
If this game had other things to do\
you mean like crafting that wasn't arbitrarily limited, they expanded the stronghold system.
Had trophies and more side content like Tier 1-2 did that had a longer shelf life
uncut dirge
that's probably the most bizarre removal of something in the game
it's content that even veterans have only seen maybe a dozen times
over 3 years
and that's only one of the plat fields areas
before it got removed me and my friends went into the other one, because none of us had ever seen it
swift tree
Imagine if all the island events were actually worth doing instead of just skipped over
nah
not possible
uncut dirge
they should've reworked all the island questlines to give relevant mats too
a long time ago
but yeah, adventure islands give what? 1.5k gold now?
meanwhile raid gold has gone from like 3k to 30k in the same time frame
swift tree
use to give 1/3 of raiding gold, now they barely give 1/10th
uncut dirge
actually you might be right, i forget how much gold argos gave
swift tree
4.5k
uncut dirge
wait, argos gave straight up legion raid gold?
swift tree
It wasn't "legion raid gold" it was just gold
uncut dirge
i know but legion raids - valtan, vykas, and clown all gave 4.5k
dull obsidian
Argos Valtan Vykas and Clown all gave 4500
uncut dirge
i thought argos gave less
swift tree
before they added the Endgame marking, you got gold from everything as long as you hadn't overlevelled it
swift tree
the limit was you had 3 weekly locks
uncut dirge
adventure islands aren't 10x behind
swift tree
Adventure Islands vs Echidna
dull obsidian
they give like 1.2k gold
uncut dirge
only like 5x behind i think
dull obsidian
5x?
stark sky
@dull obsidian
dull obsidian
uncut dirge
yeah but they gave like 1k gold back when we made 4.5k from a legion raid
stark sky
otherwise its 150m dps
uncut dirge
now they give 1.5k when we make 30k
stark sky
FUCK
uncut dirge
so it's about 5x
dull obsidian
Aerroon
swift tree
they gave 800 not 1k
dull obsidian
AERROON
swift tree
and that's if you were 1490+
dull obsidian
THAE IS 18K GOLD
BEHE IS 18K GOLD
ECHIDNA IS 19.5K GOLD
AEGIR NM 24K
AEGIR HM 30K
BREL NM 27.5K
BREL HM 34K
adventure island gives 1200 gold
if you win
stark sky
1400 if u get first
uncut dirge
800 out of 4.5k is 17.8%
17.8% out of 30k is 6052
6052 / 1200 = 5x
uncut dirge
i think even if adventure islands gave 6k gold
i still wouldn't do em
they take "too much time"
it's not that they last too many minutes, but you gotta be there precisely on the hour
zealous lintel
Islands arent the content i am picturing tho
more like the scrapped game mode ideas
zealous lintel
could have been intigrated into gold earning on the side or a distinct, second progression path
dull obsidian
no more hell content
zealous lintel
its just literally raids raids raids
uncut dirge
so what have they removed over the years?
- platinum fields
- hell mode
- ghost ship
- challenge abyss
- challenge guardians
zealous lintel
they removed pretty much everything which isnt a raid and added zero
things which are still accessible:
- islands (noone does them anymore)
- shiping (noone does this anymore)
- pvp (noone does this anymore)
yeah, well and life skilling...
uncut dirge
the weirdest thing about life skilling for me is that we have a giant world map
with interesting places to potentially explore where they could do cool stuff like place good node farming spots
or move them around randomly
zealous lintel
cause its made to progress your honing
uncut dirge
something to go back to all the old areas you haven't been to in 3 years
zealous lintel
the system itself is just another busy work
uncut dirge
but nah, you can ONLY do life skilling in this one section of this one area
everywhere else is a grief
zealous lintel
its not fleshed out cause its a necessary stepping stone. Nothing more.
uncut dirge
wanna do mining? buddy, you get a quarter of this one map that only ever has 1 channel
enjoy!
zealous lintel
even tho, there is nothing much to do, they couldnt be bothered to rework supports
real basin
my little noob alt made 8k gold just clearing up through punika, gotta love collectibles, paying for me to buy out other zones
tulip surge
I have all other collectibles through farming and all the rapports
just missing that one collectible for 100%
swift tree
* platinum fields
* hell mode
* ghost ship
* challenge abyss
* challenge guardia...
Full list of stuff they have outdated over the years is actually insane when you factor in that everything that gives harmony stones/leaps used to give the same currency
keen copper
imagine buying those 
tulip surge
I have a 2h work meeting... guess its time to farm 1k voldis mat
uncut dirge
smilegate could make multiple raids out of the gates that have been removed
speaking of
that would've been a great way to do some kind of "strike raid"
you bring back firehorn for one gate
tall mango
Why can't i craft here?
fossil solar
Me denying applications to Behemoth raid
meager hill
Why can't i craft here?
you have bound gold? that recipee uses unbound gold
tall mango
you have bound gold? that recipee uses unbound gold
AH..............
Oh well, thanks. I was wondering
meager hill
you can use bound gold only on the farm tab
tall mango
yeah i have only 119 bound so that explains why
swift tree
smilegate could make multiple raids out of the gates that have been removed
prior to chaos gates there was a thing called Antares Nightmare
real basin
rip ghost ships
uncut dirge
prior to chaos gates there was a thing called Antares Nightmare
that was before my time i think
akkan wasn't enough to get me enough akkan cards
ghost ship was tho
swift tree
Repeatable Content that got deleted/obsoleted:
- Ghost Ships
- Alakkir
- Erasmo
- Shangra
- Illusion
- Crescent
- Hope
- Naruni
- Unknown
- Frostfire/Wildwater/Harvest-Lord
- Anguished
- Moko
- Platinum Field
- Antares Nightmare
- Yozmund (turned into Chaos Dungeons)
- Cube / Boss Rush (Combined)
- Abyss Dungeons
- Challenge Abyss / Guardians
- Kaishuter
- Argos (made obsolete via honing track change)
- Mystic (turned into a one-time only event)
- Gate of Paradise (No longer needed for Giant's Heart 15).
Completing Music Box #20...
real basin
you're missing out on the suffering, better get started
swift tree
btw what's the best the Spanish version of the flower chant is Clemaman
steady crater
swift magnet
burnt tree
midnight cobalt
Anybody got the link of kr's balance patch ?
worldly hawk
low nebula
mint cape
guys, anyone has a list of all the available XP sources?
swift tree
literally anything
worldly hawk
https://tenor.com/view/vibe-gif-20696695
mint cape
I mean like xp potion shops etc.
what comes into my mind is Solo Raid shop, the Ship's shop, Guild shop
what else?
raids ofc, chaos dungeons, guardians
devout copper
Not that many tbh, I think pvp vendor may, but if you actually need to level and want to quick, do some story. Put on a movie and shift G your way through
swift tree
raids ofc, chaos dungeons, guardians
raids, chaos, cubes, guardians, chaos dungeons, sudden quests, MSQ, xp potions, adventure islands, quests, sailing co-op, Towers.
faint grove
stronghold training
mint cape
Not that many tbh, I think pvp vendor may, but if you actually need to level and...
sadly, I already went though all of the quests
swift tree
o_o
devout copper
Solo whatever raids you can for no gold or gold if that’s the way you Do typically. Almost everything in game will give you xp
swift tree
Asunn actually able to afford this
faint grove
thought hes banned for rmting for the 100th time
devout copper
sadly, I already went though all of the quests
Did you use express?
Those pots are roster bound and if you hit 1660, you’ll have enough to hit 70 plus more pots
devout copper
Anyone have a spreadsheet of extra mat boxes we’re getting from event for clearing?
swift tree
Did this game just have us drug a child?
swift tree
mint cape
Those pots are roster bound and if you hit 1660, you’ll have enough to hit 70 pl...
wait, they are ROSTER bound? or Character?
worldly hawk
Roster
burnt tree
btw, best way to go 1640-1660? Advanced Honing?
dont touch advanced honing until we get the nerfs to it Korea got this week
50% less mats, 20% less gold 
mint cape
also, should I buy the books for increased success rate?
burnt tree
uhh no 
zealous lintel
also, should I buy the books for increased success rate?
relic selection, card packs and aegir pieces/behemoth scales etc. if you plan to bring another alt up
random relic pouches if you want to gamba
mint cape
relic selection, card packs and aegir pieces/behemoth scales etc. if you plan to...
I was thinking if I should buy from the AH the tailoring books
burnt tree
no
cosmic flame
I was thinking if I should buy from the AH the tailoring books
T4 books no
T3 sure they’re cheap af
zealous lintel
I was thinking if I should buy from the AH the tailoring books
na, the books are rip
not worth
swift tree
I was thinking if I should buy from the AH the tailoring books
books aren't worth it with the price they are, use event books or use cube earned jellybeans
swift tree
So guess I’m waiting for tomorrow for last music box
low nebula
wicked blade
swift tree
bring a marching banner and flares and its super fast
noble root
distant charm
That's our favourite kinda stuff
wintry depot
distant charm
EU education mb
wintry depot
Was in patchnotes
swift tree
"Kicked from Raid, Party member failed to load in"
wind dagger
swift tree
So can confirm, I matched with a dead person
low nebula
https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-g...
yea i forgot how it to be poor https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1335925311715414058/1355196550338580670/image.png?ex=67e80ca3&is=67e6bb23&hm=72e7da0de7ed5325494d5c208d63740bff2a3b9913c3ebecaec798bf5438ab05&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=659&height=719
lone rampart
that is a crime in Lost ark
low nebula
gold didnt drop below 300k or so for long time, and only dropped cos 2 weeks ago i bought like 4 gems
right before prices crashed 😦
buy high - sell low
worn current
@nova garden Carry me in lost ark raids. I know you are juiced
worn current
Lol
lunar hedge
lone rampart
wildsoul power pass ruined lost ark 😦
how ?
lone rampart
im not even at 1640 he is stuck in the limbo of 1600-1620
since 1600-1620 is as costly as honing to 1660
or 1670
nova garden
<@344303345466343425> Carry me in lost ark raids. I know you are juiced
Only raid I know is valtan
wide stag
thorny olive
thorny olive
Yuck, imagine still playing heavy armor<:Looking:1222262916665839616>
You get one shot in heavy armor anyway, makes no difference
#buffheavyarmor
Raids aren't like they used to be
Now it's like things that deal no damage, insane damage, or it sets your HP to 1% anyway
fresh flint
queen grail
You get one shot in heavy armor anyway, makes no difference
I don't even tend to get one-shotted with no heavy armor.
Kat you need to shield more 
uncut dirge
"tend to"
queen grail
I mean If I stand in 6 Aegir hard Explosions during the special zone then ofc?
slender sky
<a:catEat:1090893806972452925>
queen grail
queen grail
Not supposed to stand in EVERYTHING 
but I can stand in a lot 
fresh flint
People now days stand in shit on purpose then get mad when they die
Dumb dps goblins
swift tree
People now days stand in shit on purpose then get mad when they die
dying to mechs like an opera singer to poisoned cups of tea
fresh flint
dying to mechs like an opera singer to poisoned cups of tea
Lmao wtf
fresh flint
https://tenor.com/view/k-keptax-fettsack-keptax-fat-peter-griffin-peter-griffin-...
Give gems
thorny olive
<:Kapp:644645164035342358> Kat you need to shield more <:frog_love:1334887457434...
I accidentally tanked a line in brel and got one shot xD
devout copper
Yup, was doing Brel hm, DRd first pattern, second pattern was on cd, reaper dies and flamed me for the entirety of the raid lol, mind you no one else died… was standing in Shit and missed his JG… it’s my fault though lol
fresh flint
Yup, was doing Brel hm, DRd first pattern, second pattern was on cd, reaper dies...
lol yep. People are idiots
low nebula
that explains "sometimes toxic"
thorny olive
what line?
Random pattern
queen grail
I accidentally tanked a line in brel and got one shot xD
Wut
thorny olive
<:sus:1004797002594402334> Wut
Idk, didn't know they hurt that much before xD
My poor bard
slender sky
The rewards are dookie
caaards, and the pet is cute
slender sky
The rewards are dookie
thorny olive
swift tree
thorny olive
Still not convinced
low nebula
<:kaiThighs:1083825521634328716>
slender sky
<:UGHN:1100697690033106986>
this is the best ever
fresh flint
<:kaiThighs:1083825521634328716>
The fuck this supposed to do for me
slender sky
ughn
thorny olive
The fuck this supposed to do for me
swift tree
The fuck this supposed to do for me
low nebula
<a:Squeeze:1267157328378200095>
stop provokin peepos in chat
slender sky
cant find a big version of it in tenor saddies
low nebula
well when its big its too much to handle 
is there any sup kitten to bring me as frien to normal brel?
swift tree
is there any sup kitten to bring me as frien to normal brel?
you be fren, I be sup?
low nebula
someone was quite passionate drawing that gif
swift tree
someone was quite passionate drawing that gif
about as passionate as the people drawing Dragon Ball Z characters
queen grail
@thorny olive Perv.
slender sky
https://tenor.com/view/anime-socks-cute-girl-gif-17962103
im talking about the ughn pepe you dentge
queen grail
Lv.9's under 1 mil
queen grail
low nebula
would sell surely
swift tree
im talking about the ughn pepe you dentge
rocky plume
thorny olive
<@97435016799207424> <:Looking:1222262916665839616> Perv.
Whaaa
Why mee
Also if you said that in official they'd ban you
swift tree
Does this look like official?
swift tree
totally not a double standard singleing that out though
low nebula
totally not a double standard singleing that out though
huh
cosmic flame
there's a dps shortage
in highest content
thus making supp shortage issue "non existent"
swift tree
low nebula
there's a dps shortage
im dps get me into brel norm plz
cosmic flame
im dps get me into brel norm plz
takes me a min to find one
on ilvl
first lobby
very hard
slender sky
sup shortage only exists to people whose characters look like dogshit
ratty supports rather join juicer dpses, then log onto their ratty dpses after and complain that they cant find ratty supports
cosmic flame
thats what I'm saying, there is indeed a dps shortage in brel hm rn. anything other than that is 100% fine
u not finding lobbies
is due to u not meeting their standards, however stupid they might be
uncut dirge
behemoth is hard
there's definitely a support shortage
and i wonder if there's even a dps shortage in brel hard
or whether requirements for dps are so high people just don't meet them
cosmic flame
or whether requirements for dps are so high people just don't meet them
a little bit of both
wintry depot
They arent high
cosmic flame
but there are some insane 1690 rats out there
cosmic flame
80m is like 1660 ilvl
idk whats the min but somewhere close to that I'd say
but no one wants a 20m per gate hw
uncut dirge
i wouldn't go that
80m is possible for 1660 but i don't think it's the norm to be able to meet that
torn ether
i do around 70 on my sorc
behe*
thorny olive
and no your echidna or aegir nm sup shortage
I haven't experienced sup shortage in those
cosmic flame
behe doesn't count
cosmic flame
I haven't experienced sup shortage in those
well thats my point, sup shortage isn't really a thing
uncut dirge
i did 85m on my 1670 wildsoul last week
uncut dirge
on brel
uncut dirge
but some of my other 1670 dpses did average more on the 65m range
and by some i mean just one
but i guess she's lacking gear too
wintry depot
Theres a big difference between 1670 and 1680 tho
uncut dirge
yeah
thorny olive
Don't worry, 1680s can't reach 60m DPS anyway 🐀
wintry depot
My bf did 110m on his 1680 wildsoul in brel nm
And hes not even full aegir
Class is broken but still
wintry depot
80m dps for a 1690 shouldnt be hard to do
uncut dirge
me and friends progged normal brel cause we weren't at hard ilvl
wintry depot
At all
cosmic flame
its the bare min
cosmic flame
like this is a 1680 on brel 2 nm
now I'm not saying
anyone doing less than this is popo blah blah
but a 1690 should at least be doing 95 bare min let alone 80
or less
wintry depot
Yea
cosmic flame
keep in mind this SE has like
wintry depot
Dps requirement isnt high
thorny olive
0 relic book
cosmic flame
not a single low roll
thorny olive
Lvl 5 gems
lunar hedge
What the Gunlancer doing
rocky plume
🐢
midnight marlin
why am i doing 70 with 1680
uncut dirge
why am i doing 70 with 1680
because you're a dps bard
cosmic flame
why am i doing 70 with 1680
na player unlucky
lunar hedge
im more worried about everyone being dead
What they even dying to, tornado wipe??
uncut dirge
What they even dying to, tornado wipe??
i have no idea
cosmic flame
give me 5s tho
uncut dirge
i was one of the supps
cosmic flame
I'll take them
uncut dirge
i noticed in the last phase things were going slow
uncut dirge
i look over, almost everyone's dead
cosmic flame
man I love doing cubes
uncut dirge
like this is a 1680 on brel 2 nm
FMH?
cosmic flame
yea
uncut dirge
idk, i think FMH suits the fight way better
thorny olive
NE is back loaded
uncut dirge
NE's dps is backloaded
thorny olive
NE cute
cosmic flame
if I don't crit / miss one single scaffold guillo
uncut dirge
and she also has to land stuff in a relatively small window
cosmic flame
its gg
wicked blade
Did I miss anything important
cosmic flame
dps tanks
uncut dirge
if you mess up the timing stuff things fall apart
wicked blade
Outside of talking about SE needing nerf
cosmic flame
Outside of talking about SE needing nerf
god you're stupid
uncut dirge
didn't we all just agree
cosmic flame
yes yes SE broken wah wah
thorny olive
Outside of talking about SE needing nerf
Eh, SE doesn't need any nerfs, it's balanced
wicked blade
Joke just fly by your head
uncut dirge
destroyer best class
cosmic flame
go look up numbers
cosmic flame
Joke just fly by your head
overused joke
thorny olive
destroyer best class
Put him back to D tier
uncut dirge
can we nerf arti
wicked blade
Eh, SE doesn't need any nerfs, it's balanced
True
uncut dirge
and destro
wicked blade
Buff RE
cosmic flame
i hope they buff NE
tawny lion
Buff se, wd, aero, zerker. Nerf soulfist and sorc
thorny olive
i hope they buff NE
True, NE kinda shit
uncut dirge
i hope they buff NE
i just wish so much damage wasn't in Z + T
or that they both wouldn't be backloaded
or that meter wouldn't deplete constantly
or something like that
wicked blade
Buff se, wd, aero, zerker. Nerf soulfist and sorc
Nah, nerf Zerk to the ground
9 meter under
lunar hedge
can we nerf arti
The furry stance numbers is interesting
thorny olive
Good luck getting ur T skill when every fight phases in 2 seconds followed by 5min downtime
thorny olive
Homework content favor front loaded classes, sniff
lunar hedge
Oh my god the floor
uncut dirge
popularity wise:
RE > igniter > FMH > peacemaker?!?! > asura > predator > NE > Mayhem?!?! > eso?!?!
lunar hedge
uncut dirge
something's messed up there
thorny olive
<https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/stats/raids#boss=Phantom+Manifester+Brelshaza&difficul...
Go by best, NE is D tier
uncut dirge
i play a bunch of NE SEs
and one FMH SE
and every time i do guardian on my FMH i remember why i switched
i hate running out of mana
idk if i keep running into paladins or supports that dont cycle
but somehow i run into mana issues
lunar hedge
Probably paladins
uncut dirge
next time i log on i should check whether i actually have the mana engraving on
maybe i took it off for some reason
thorny olive
Can they like nerf destroyer
uncut dirge
what is wrong with people
uncut dirge
Can they like nerf destroyer
i was thinking that i should make a destroyer with next express on an alt account
thorny olive
what is wrong with people
Well, they need the RNG cards
uncut dirge
just so i can play the class in case the game dies
torn ether
finally getting my hands back
lunar hedge
No, keep destroyer the way jt is. Let me keep my frontal hammer boy worth supporting
thorny olive
No, keep destroyer the way jt is. Let me keep my frontal hammer boy worth suppor...
It's supposed to be D tier >:(
uncut dirge
only classes i haven't tried so far are destroyer, arti, and WD
lunar hedge
thorny olive
Both WD variants have shit T skill and shit 4th node
low nebula
what is wrong with people
free goldge
steady crater
real basin
stark sky
i wouldve been around 150m dps
this is my 3rd strongest
FUCK
i kind of see where my ceiling is now though
with good syn, support, and good run with avg luck
cosmic flame
I didn't run meter for the past 2 weeks
cosmic flame
prolly 170-180 yea
stark sky
the other party
cosmic flame
on a good rng run
stark sky
look at their syn vs mine
cosmic flame
1670 sup too
stark sky
they doomed me
cosmic flame
I don't have a 1680 SE anymore so I can't even test next week
stark sky
next week i will try to aim for 160 on my 2nd strongest
cosmic flame
vagrant cradle
https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-156850127916313...
stark sky
its easy to upgrade mine
cosmic flame
life is hard
stark sky
ambush books are cheap
lvl 9 gems are cheap
well i say cheap since im 4 glaive roster
cosmic flame
I could buy 9s for my pink skills rn
stark sky
so gems are 4x cheaper for me than other people
wintry depot
wonder what class is most broken
cosmic flame
stark sky
im getting warned for posting meter with screenshots when no one was being shamed
great
cosmic flame
I think it was the names
stark sky
nice to see mods cant even read their own rules
stark sky
theyve always been top 3
cosmic flame
RS always been good
stark sky
it was db robust deadeye and arcana as top 4 before
cosmic flame
just unplayed
vagrant cradle
yeah it's rs, ws, and re still
vagrant cradle
Yeah
stark sky
right next to db
vagrant cradle
why is pinnacle near the top, and then control is last, only above princess maker
stark sky
people thought i was overreacting
when i said control was an f tier class
no i promise u
wintry depot
Where co summoner
vagrant cradle
wintry depot
Idk about that
wintry depot
Ye but theres prob more control than co
stark sky
oh wait
stark sky
theres a few more now
bluelance and tth are also below co
co has a higher ceiling parse than control does
cosmic flame
ngl I kinda wanna skip getting 9s on my SE and just work my way up to 10s on pink skills @stark sky 
stark sky
yeah i think the worst classes in the game are control, striker x2, tth, and co
wintry depot
Till kr balance patch
cosmic flame
if tth ever gets a slight rework
vagrant cradle
wait I thought master summoners pumped, but they're so low apparently
cosmic flame
I'd push her in a heartbeat
vagrant cradle
cosmic flame
I loved tth
stark sky
wait I thought master summoners pumped, but they're so low apparently
they do
they're like avg
fresh flint
I regret deleting my tth saddies
high fog
wait I thought master summoners pumped, but they're so low apparently
Ms just isn’t well suited to any of the raids rn
wintry depot
They just giga pump in behe
stark sky
looking at upper quartile will give you a better idea of where the stronger players lie
wintry depot
And okay for other raids
stark sky
and how the class actually does
which is why paladin having a higher max parse than control is fucking depressing
lmao
high fog
Brel is too small for Phoenix and akir is kinda dentge still
- summoner t skill is hot garbage damage/cd
stark sky
my parse in brel hm week 1 was control
in both g1 and g2
my parse in week 2 was pinnacle
wintry depot
Kinda funny that dps bard almost has same parse as control
stark sky
i had been playing pinnacle for less than a week
my parse on week 2 was 50% higher than week 1
high fog
Control is fine style wise, but needs higher numbers
It’s like a pure uptime class in a game where you need some burstiness
stark sky
thats correct
high fog
To like play the game
stark sky
they have burst
just need more overall numbers
like just push everything up
the new rework is gonna be great for them
kr is currently butchering control so they dont have a good idea of it
but the fact that you regain a damage ability is huge for the class
your abilities that dont have para immune are instant cast all of a sudden
insane
stark sky
you mean wildsoul having 2-3 charges of everything
so they get a free 2nd rotation
lmao
high fog
No like if u do a shit ton of burst damage, your like overall dps should be lower if you can free hit boss
stark sky
thats just the thing
high fog
Meanwhile we have bs like fmh where your cycle dps is like the same as emperor arcana
It’s so silly
vagrant cradle
thorny olive
:0
wintry depot
yesyes
thorny olive
evil bot message
slender sky
double dip is back soon xD
tranquil bridge
<@&938198046896955542>
tranquil bridge
actually in every channel that people can type in too
vocal pollen
yeah
slender sky
he has a lot to give
frail swallow
actually in every channel that people can type in too
Yup, its been handled.
neon cedar
real basin
what about my free money
neon cedar
we hunt da bots
real basin
thorny olive
it's pretty again
fringe whale
honing in punika is the key
vocal pollen
honing in punika is the key
best place to hone
fringe whale
in the history you need to go to punika first to enter elgacia, so it might be related
slender sky
it's pretty again
hand it over and i can remain friendly
fringe whale
wortst place to hone is elnead 100%
vocal pollen
wait, just noticed.... you mentioned 20% artisans yesterday, are you honing every single piece at the same time?
fringe whale
wait, just noticed.... you mentioned 20% artisans yesterday, are you honing ever...
not really
i did
like
11 taps
on the weapon
run out of materials
desruction stones
vocal pollen
I just meant how you have 3 items w/ the in progress thing 😛
fringe whale
and did some taps on the shoudlers
vocal pollen
if you go one item at a time, if you're really unlucky, you'll get upgrades sooner since that one will get all the artisan
fringe whale
couple of trys there
and couple of trys on the shoulders
but mostly all my gold and oreha went for the weapon
vocal pollen
oic
cosmic flame
just one tap
fringe whale
cuz i was honing without using any beans or books
cosmic flame
fringe whale
just one tap
just one more
real basin
my 1675 weapon upgrade was a pity but then 1680 was a 1 tap, pitying weapon is the worst
vocal pollen
wicked blade
my 1675 weapon upgrade was a pity but then 1680 was a 1 tap, pitying weapon is t...
True
wicked blade
There is no worse feeling that pitying weapon as f2p
fringe whale
how many hones is a pity for that level
wicked blade
thorny olive
honing in punika is the key
hey, don't leak